[06:25] Mornign all [06:25] Morning even [06:27] morning all [06:27] good morning uncle Kilos [06:28] hi nlsthzn wassup with the gaming [06:29] get help with the dual screens [06:29] like I said in the mail, I don't have an Ubuntu gaming system at the moment cause I can't get all my hardware to work with Linux :/ [06:29] aw [06:30] lost a whole day yesterday fiddling with it in my ignorance :p [06:31] whew [06:48] i dont know where the guys will find time anyway [06:49] my biggest issue too :( [06:50] unless you play chess without timers [06:50] hehe [06:50] good morning [06:50] hi magespawn [06:51] good morning ? [06:51] whats up? [06:51] do not know where the 2nd good morning came from [06:51] still no rain and spitting dust here [06:52] typo gremlins already awake [06:52] anything predicted? [06:52] lol i wondered about that had to look if my hi went through [06:53] ya 60% heavy last night and today but sun shining happily [06:53] go do a rain dance [06:53] lol [06:54] thats what i said to the pro yesterday [06:57] nlsthzn: can you choose hardware that will work or is there always a problem? [07:15] Kilos how are the sheep holding up? [07:17] sheep love dry weather magespawn like in the karoo [07:17] well that good, the ones down here are taking strain [07:17] and there is lotsa grass and weeds so they got plenty food [07:18] strain from the rain? [07:18] none of the dangerous weeds? [07:18] i think i got rid of the few bad ones that were here [07:19] over the years [07:20] the tick load for animals down here when it is wet is too much for the sheep [07:20] think [07:20] ah [07:20] yeah [07:20] its rather expensive to dip but that helps [07:21] once a month or 2 in the summer [07:21] also drops the tick population [07:21] the parasites are okay to deal with, takes time, but the secondary infections, fungus and such are madness [07:22] fungus as in foot rot? [07:23] and internal fungus, makes the area swell up [07:23] ivomec injections under the skin in inner thigh [07:24] got a new name for the channel [07:24] anyone of the ivomectins will do [07:24] lol [07:24] #ubuntu-za-vet [07:25] yeah there is treatment, but hectic on the time, effort and money [07:25] also another similar product called trodex [07:25] nothing is cheap anymore [07:26] yup and in zululand you seem to need everything to just get normal growth and production [07:26] i looked at that matrix site to see what it would cost to build up a fast pc [07:26] whew [07:27] the cpus are expensive [07:27] i saving bit by bit to get a socket 1155 mb i think it is [07:27] yup when you start looking at the i7, they can cost as much a whole normal pc [07:27] like the one cantide got [07:28] even i3 is faster that a P4 hey? [07:28] the nice part is them mb's take ddr3 ram [07:29] the newer chips have multiple cores so they run at the same Ghz but process two lots of commands at the same time [07:29] i5 is plenty fast [07:30] yeah i wanted to get a core2 cpu for here and ian said rather go bit by bit and get the other mb [07:30] i5 and i7 cpus cost big bucks Tonberry [07:31] i go see the i5 price [07:31] 2500ish is the sweetspot [07:31] eek [07:31] i want to build the whole thing for 2k or less [07:32] still gotta get data monthly [07:32] 2k for a pc is pushing it [07:32] not impossible [07:32] core2quad still kick butt [07:32] if you can find one [07:32] my wife still using my Q6600 and it works fine [07:33] got to go second hand [07:33] * Tonberry is a speedfreak [07:33] * nlsthzn is rocking an i7 too :p [07:39] http://www.matrixonlineshop.co.za/Shop/ [07:40] if you look at specials there lotsa expensive stuff [07:41] left bottom corner is mb's and cpu's\ [07:44] when I was in SA I always bought from http://sybaritic.co.za/store/ [07:44] and my one system I got from http://www.pcint.co.za/ [07:47] will look at them too ty nlsthzn [07:52] brb [08:08] back [08:09] wb Maaz [08:09] wb [08:09] >>< [08:09] >.< [08:09] wb magespawn [08:12] lol [08:12] ty [08:55] i see why you like it inetpro http://www.akadia.com/services/lsof_intro.html [08:56] "lsof provides many more options and could be an unvaluable foresinc tool if your system get compromised or as daily basis check tool." [08:58] invaluable methinks [08:59] Maaz, spell unvaluable [08:59] Kilos: Yes, you *can* spell [08:59] hey [08:59] lol [08:59] Maaz, spell invaluable [08:59] Kilos: Yes, you *can* spell [08:59] oh my [08:59] hi superfly whats the right word [08:59] invaluable is the one I know [09:00] i thought so [09:00] the bot needs to go back to school [09:02] need a teacher bot then [09:05] invaluable meets very valuable [09:05] crazy mixed up language [09:08] in the latest full circle mag there is a walk through of the LPIC-1 [09:09] download link please [09:11] just a sec [09:11] no rush [09:11] looks like it is going to a series of articles [09:12] http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-68/ [09:12] ty magespawn [09:12] np [09:14] superfly have you tried airdroid? [09:21] airdroid is awesome [09:22] Maaz: define unvaluable [09:22] inetpro: Unvaluable \Un*val"u*a*ble\, a. 1. Invaluable; being beyond price. [Obs.] --South. [1913 Webster] 2. Not valuable; having little value. [R.] --T. Adams. [1913 Webster] [09:22] so it has two oppisite meanings, lovely [09:23] hmm... not exactly what I understand from that [09:23] being beyond price [09:24] 1. = very very valuable, 2 = no value [09:24] nlsthzn: where does it say that? [09:24] if something is priceless it is .... ? [09:24] 2 [09:24] very very valuable is valuable [09:25] un is normally the opposite of something [09:25] thats 1 invaluable [09:25] unvaluable is 'not valuable' [09:25] Maaz, define invaluable [09:25] ya [09:25] nlsthzn: Invaluable \In*val"u*a*ble\, a. Valuable beyond estimation; inestimable; priceless; precious. [1913 Webster], invaluable adj 1: having incalculable monetary, intellectual, or spiritual worth [syn: {invaluable}, {priceless}] [09:26] unvaluable [09:26] :-) [09:26] hehe [09:26] i had actually never heard it used before [09:26] makes sense to me [09:27] Maaz: define valuable [09:27] inetpro: Valuable \Val"u*a*ble\, a. 1. Having value or worth; possessing qualities which are useful and esteemed; precious; costly; as, a valuable horse; valuable land; a valuable cargo. [1913 Webster] 2. Worthy; estimable; deserving esteem; as, a valuable friend; a valuable companion. [1913 Webster] {Valuable consideration} (Law), an equivalent or compensation [09:27] having value given for a thing purchased, as money, marriage, services, etc. --Blackstone.… [09:28] hmm... [09:28] the definition for unvaluable given by maaz is oppsosite of each other [09:29] maybe maaz needs a proper dictionary like oxford [09:31] herro ubuntu-za [09:32] magespawn: what does the oxford dictionary say about unvaluable [09:32] ? [09:32] invaluable? [09:32] i cant find it in my old one [09:32] not sure [09:32] brb [09:32] * magespawn goes to get a dictionary [09:33] Un`val´u`a`ble [09:33] a. 1. Invaluable; being beyond price. [09:33] 2. Not valuable; having little value. [09:33] Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, published 1913 by C. & G. Merriam Co. [09:33] great, same one as Maaz :/ [09:34] seems unvaluable in the sense of invaluable is an American thing (from some stuff I read online) [09:36] according to http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/unvaluable - unvaluable - The word you've entered isn't in the thesaurus. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above. [09:37] very interesting [09:37] no such word according to http://oxforddictionaries.com/spellcheck/english/?q=unvaluable [09:38] google also tries and corrects it to invaluable :p [09:38] hehe [09:38] i may be stupid but i'm not a fool [09:38] haha [09:38] but the yanks have warped many english words over the years [09:39] and peeps everywhere learn it from tv [09:39] and done away with lots of others [09:39] http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/unvaluable [09:39] that ^^ has it [09:40] I'd suggest valueless over unvaluable, though [09:40] yip tumbleweed [09:40] I agree that it is somewhat confusing [09:40] isn't collins also american? [09:41] unvaluable isn't commonly used [09:41] but I can understand how they got to derive the meaning 'not valuable' [09:41] un = not [09:41] and if you write programmes it can create interesting results [09:41] un is an opposite of a word [09:41] like unlike [09:41] etc [09:42] and uncle [09:42] so is in-, most of the time [09:42] unlike = not like [09:42] lol @ nlsthzn [09:42] English doesn't like hard rules [09:42] roflol [09:42] yip incurable is not curable [09:43] so un = not except when it doesn't [09:43] you guys are classic! [09:44] languages are interesting [09:44] afr has funny words too [09:44] Kilos: very! [09:45] our black backed jackal is n witrug jakals [09:45] Kilos: why? [09:45] inflammable [09:45] the van der merwe that named them must been colour blind [09:46] yip magespawn thats very flammable [09:46] weird hey why not just say flamable [09:47] wow, that is weird yes [09:49] thats why peeps that speak other languages battle with english [09:49] one needs to grow up with it [09:49] have tried mandarin? [09:50] and then still need dictionary now and again [09:55] Flammable and inflammable both mean capable of burning. The word "inflammable" came from Latin inflammāre = "to set fire to," where the prefix "in-" means "in" as in "indoctrinate", rather than "not" as in "invisible" and "ineligible". [09:56] comes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflammable#Linguistics:_flammable_vs._inflammable [09:56] whew [09:57] nice find [09:58] i shoulda kept quiet [09:58] #ubuntu-za-language [09:59] was easier just to know what inflammable meant not that the latins gave us its root [09:59] as in so many other words [09:59] attilla shoulda wiped them [10:00] think it was a bit late then, they had already influenced the language [10:00] brb [10:02] * inetpro lol at @ Kilos [10:09] back [10:19] man the networking in win is retarded [10:21] along with everything else [10:22] this in particular is getting in my way today [10:23] when it comes to networks and windows I plug it in and it works or I don't plug it in :p [10:23] afternoon boys and girls [10:23] when it comes to Windows, I don't. [10:24] nlsthzn: it was working and now isn't [10:24] re-install ez [10:24] says network printer is offline yet i can print from all the ubuntu machines [10:24] lol [10:24] hi fly [10:24] ah, replace printer ez [10:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9thbaXOAGM [10:25] have done that before too and problem comes back like a boomarang [10:30] superfly, brilliantly doen [10:30] *done [10:30] nlsthzn: yeah :-) [10:34] * nlsthzn is liking some of the addtions in Win 8... the taskmanager gives loads more info now (even the pop up when you copy files are looking sweet) [10:42] nlsthzn: can I introduce you to KDE4? :-P [10:46] hi Mezenir [10:47] hey kilos :) [10:47] how are you ? [10:47] its an awesome day [10:47] i feel like braaiing [10:48] superfly, lol [10:48] good ty and you? [10:50] pretty good thanks [10:51] ahoy Mezenir! long time no smell! [10:51] i finally took the step to remove windows completely :) [10:51] things not hot if you wanna swap hey superfly [10:51] hey superfly [10:51] how have you been [10:51] yay Mezenir well done [10:52] http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/11/white-house-responds-to-death-star-petition-obama-does-not-support-blowing-up-planets/ [10:52] im actually surprised how many old games run fine in wine [10:52] superfly is today link day? [10:53] i installed deus ex 1 with a texture pack which includes a newer opengl renderer [10:53] and it runs perfectly [10:53] Mezenir: nice [10:53] superfly, was reading that earlier, pretty clever replies [10:53] magespawn: just actually pasting links for once [10:56] wb timkeller [10:58] everytime i see that nick i think timekiller [10:59] hahaha clock watcher [11:00] Mezenir: I've been playing my old Star Wars Jedi Academy in WIEN [11:00] *WINE [11:01] confused my opponant in starcraft... I tried to keep him out my base but my wall failed so when he got one unit in I quit :p pretty sure he must have gone wtf?! [11:27] regular quit or ragequit? [11:36] raining again [11:36] * magespawn sends some weather up to GP [11:36] ty ty ty [11:53] Tonberry, i did gg before leaving :p [11:53] magespawn: thanks [11:53] I hope nobody steals it again on it's way here [11:53] hehe [11:54] yay [11:54] in sa they even steal the weather.... [11:54] screen is working againg [11:54] zeref: the physical screen or gnu screen? [11:54] *again [11:54] physical screen [11:54] wow what was it zeref [11:55] dont know, I pressed the power button,on the screen, connected the power [11:55] and it can alive [11:55] btw at thw same time [11:56] magic touch [11:56] lol [11:56] i was about to but a new screen [11:56] IT LIVES [11:56] :-) [11:56] * buy [11:57] lol now you cab stay attached to it [11:58] k, hang a sec [11:58] or 60 [11:59] omg am so happy [12:00] good news that [12:00] trying to get a shot of my systen [12:02] k, 1 min [12:04] ok [12:04] desktop + laptop on table [12:04] sever at the bottom [12:04] http://imgur.com/QA7iO [12:05] that black box is the external [12:05] :-) [12:05] the white box is the switch [12:07] the white box on top? [12:07] switch Kilos [12:08] o n top on the PVC [12:08] *PC [12:08] looks good [12:08] maybe the switdh is unhappy [12:10] switch is happy [12:10] i am happy [12:10] we are all happy [12:10] :-) [12:11] hehe [12:12] zeref: have you used synergy before? [12:12] so what i did over that the past 4 days is that: the problem started when i pressed crtl+ alt + f1 [12:12] then the screen turned off [12:12] . [12:12] so after a couple of days [12:13] I disconnected the powerf [12:13] * power [12:13] the today [12:13] *then [12:14] i need to know more about the server [12:14] what all is in that flat box [12:14] i got a whole pc as a server [12:14] I pressed the power button and connected the power whilst pressing the power button [12:15] and it switched on [12:15] :-( [12:15] :-) [12:15] thats a weird prob you cause there [12:15] no more ctrl+alt+f1 [12:15] magespawn: I've synergy before [12:15] what is it? [12:15] Kilos: indeed [12:16] it should go to text interface i think [12:16] like f2 [12:16] the guys will know [12:16] k, i think i should write a tut on that [12:17] allows you to control one or more pc with onely one keyboard and mouse [12:18] have not tried it on a server though only gui systems [12:19] ok. [12:20] so do crtl + alt + f1 [12:20] affect the screen [12:34] im scared to try [12:45] funny I can only ssh to my servers via port 22 when I change the port to something else like 65534 it doesn't work...hmmm I'm not using ports numbers lower than 1024 [12:48] sakhi: shouldn't you change your port numbers on the server [12:49] yes I have changed in on the server [12:51] I have a session on the server made the changes on the ssh config file when I ssh from my laptop it doesn't work however when I revert back to port 22 on the server it works...I'm thinking it could be fw perhaps. [12:56] I'd guess so [12:59] anyone heard of Moroccan Ghost? bunch of people going around defacing websites, I was a victim. Seems like the use a file injection attack especially on php sites. [13:01] sakhi: what was your site running? [13:01] Drupal? WordPress? Joomla? [13:01] Chisimba its an inhouse cms [13:01] oh right, yes I know Chisimba [13:02] had a look at it and went running straight back to Drupal [13:02] its going to phased out due to "professional" support prof.=M$ [13:03] I don't blame you its well written and the idea behind it great however it lacks support. [13:05] no, I looked at the code and found it awful [13:06] lots of coding last I checked it was more than 200k lines [13:16] sakhi: did they not get to a bunch of sa government sites too? [13:23] magespawn: yes they also did. [13:23] and other sites which are not Govt. most are Govt. [13:24] seems like a strange thing to do, what do they gain from it? [13:27] bunch of kids wasting peoples time...I mean really if you wanted to cause harm why go for sites instead of business systems...no idea what they gain from it. [13:28] one of the unknown things about the internet [13:30] gotta go all, bye [14:02] Maaz: beer please [14:02] digigram: Go get it yourself! [14:02] * digigram is trying his luck, knowing the answer ahead of time [14:16] hi digigram [14:17] hi Kilos [14:27] mmm, academ.org? [14:29] now why did I think a site like academ.org will be english [17:16] Kilos: you are way to quiet today, what's wrong? [17:16] im converting inetpro [17:16] converting? [17:16] into a lurker [17:16] hehe [17:16] ai! [17:17] that is not on! [17:17] oh why? [17:17] Kilos: it's just not like you [17:17] unlike [17:17] hahaha not inlike [17:18] lol [17:19] hows your bubbeltjies doing [17:19] we are swamped with the thing [17:19] s [17:20] lo Vince-0 [17:21] that was quick, Kilos [17:21] Hi! [17:21] hehe [17:21] i go eat [17:21] evening swamprats [17:22] * superfly suddenly has visions of ROUSes [17:22] haha [17:22] not swamps here. you playing to many gamesa [17:22] games [17:23] inetpro, things dont look good weatherwise hey [17:23] Kilos: ai, ja die bubbeltjies het hier ook oorgevat soos nog iets [17:23] sjoe [17:23] en die weer, ai! [17:23] ek hoop maar dit kom nog [17:24]