[00:00] <syncsys> FloodBot1, ok
[00:03] <ogist> http://i49.tinypic.com/4k74nm.png
[00:03] <ubuntu-tester> machicola: how do you define 'finish' moment?
[00:04] <daftykins> ogist: i can't believe it's not a mac.
[00:05] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester are you still here, sorry got disrupted... how do i remove the /dev/sdb lines?
[00:05] <machicola> ubuntu.... the main loading process
[00:05] <machicola> ubuntu-tester, the main loading process for the windows session
[00:06] <Stephini> hia
[00:06] <machicola> once the processor is no longer busy with loading xwindows
[00:06] <machicola> i want the script to start
[00:07] <machicola> if there are minor things afterwards, i'm not concerned with those
[00:07] <Stephini> anyone on with experience using wireless x360 pads on ubuntu?
[00:07] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: with any text editor, i guess :)
[00:08] <jarvis_> Ok, I'm trying to decide a good way to split this computer up. I have a 120GB SSD, and a 500GB spinning drive. I want to dual boot buntu/win7. What are some good options. I use linux for school/programming, and windows for gaming.
[00:08] <ubuntu-tester> machicola: well you can check LA in script
[00:09] <machicola> ubuntu-tester, what do you mean?
[00:09] <Stephini> jarvis give each os ~20-30 on the SSD then the rest for your big load games and the off drive for everything else?
[00:09] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester hmm.. feels like I havnt got all this right now :P Is this information i got from blkid an actual text file somewhere? If :  Where is that located?
[00:10] <Feedhurley> by the way is it this hard to make new partitions in linux? o.O
[00:10] <Stephini> didn't find partitioning that hard when i used gparted about 5 years back...heh
[00:10] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: you need to edit /etc/fstab as root, remove last lines
[00:11] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: it's easy with gparted
[00:12] <ubuntu-tester> machicola: parse uptime output, if LA above some threshold wait 30 sec, etc.
[00:13] <machicola> what is LA?
[00:13] <machicola> nevermind
[00:13] <ubuntu-tester> machicola: load average
[00:13] <Rienzilla> hmm
[00:14] <Rienzilla> what is responsible for starting/activating lvm volumes in ubuntu?
[00:14] <machicola> ok thanks ubuntu-tester
[00:14] <hiuser> hi, i have difficulties installing the ubuntu windows installer. the problem occures during installation. it freezes when trying to copy files. any suggestions?
[00:15] <Stephini> is it just me or is there a lack of current information on using x360 controllers on linux?
[00:17] <daftykins> Stephini: i must say that's not exactly a priority when it comes to OS's :>
[00:18] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester hmm how to get there, i need to be super user? So i then i have to do it terminal, but in terminal it denies me access even if i type "sudo cd root"
[00:18] <Wulf> hi
[00:18] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester apparently not, it was in gparted all this stuff got started
[00:18] <Wulf> The 12.04 login screens shows me only the default user to which I can login. How can I configure it so I can enter the username I'd like to login as?
[00:19] <Feedhurley> ubuntu-tester i mabye should tell that these partitions does not hold any files at all so if there is any easy gparted way which i missed I could just delete them
[00:19] <Stephini> for a gamer being able to play their games generally is a priority. for a game dev being able to test their games generally is. getting the x360 pad working factors into both. so it may not be for you or for the ubuntu dev team. but figuring out why every guide does work is for me.
[00:20] <Stephini> why every guide does not*
[00:20] <arashmousavi_> I found out the inode information of the most important directory of my server was corrupted, and I couldn't access its files. how can I recover my data in this directory? or repair its inode information? that is realy important
[00:21] <ogist> daftykins: yeah
[00:21] <ogist> well ubuntu is like a mac
[00:22] <ogist> im using cairo-dock
[00:22] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: you need to start text editor with root privileges, it is done with sudo command. type in terminal: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:22] <ubuntu-tester> !sudo | Feedhurley
[00:22] <Ben64> Stephini: you need the wireless connector thingy
[00:23] <Stephini> ben64 have it. but cant get the software to use it...every guide leads me to "cant locate package"
[00:23] <daftykins> ogist: nooo no no no no
[00:23] <Ben64> Stephini: what package
[00:23] <ubuntu-tester> Feedhurley: after you clean up fstab and check partitions are not mounted, you can freely delete them and create anew
[00:24] <verm1n> Hello, I am running ubuntu 12.10 with Kubuntu packages with KDE, compiz and emerald. I was wondering if it is possible for me to install some of the older compiz plugins (namely "blur").
[00:24] <Stephini> xpad and xboxdrv are teh 2 i've been sent to get by guides
[00:24] <Ben64> Stephini: what version of ubuntu are you on
[00:24] <Stephini> 12.10 i believe. latest full feature/limited support
[00:25] <usr13> ubuntu-tester:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[00:25] <Ben64> Stephini: then the driver is already in the kernel
[00:25] <Stephini> ahh how can i test and config it then?
[00:25] <verm1n> anyone have success setting up advanced compiz plugins on 12.04?
[00:25] <Ben64> what happens when you do "lsmod | grep xpad"
[00:25] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: yes, will work as well
[00:26] <verm1n> 12.04/12.10
[00:27] <ubuntu-tester> verm1n: I had in 12.10, what plugins
[00:27] <Stephini> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep xpad
[00:27] <Stephini> xpad                   17756  0
[00:27] <Stephini> ff_memless             12877  1 xpad
[00:27] <Stephini> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[00:27] <FloodBot1> Stephini: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <jgodbout1> I could install the broadcom wireless driver when I was using the live CD, but now that I have installed 12.04, it does not appear in the list of additional drivers.
[00:27] <Ben64> Stephini: it should be working then
[00:27] <jgodbout1> How can I use the CD as a source to install additional drivers? (no ethernet port)
[00:27] <Stephini> ok is there a gui window where i can test inputs then?
[00:28] <verm1n> ubuntu-tester: blur
[00:28] <bekks> jgodbout1: which additional drivers do you look for?
[00:28] <Ben64> i don't know that much about xbox controllers on ubuntu
[00:28] <verm1n> maybe aquarius etc
[00:28] <jgodbout1> bekks: Broadcom STA i think
[00:28] <ubuntu-tester> jgodbout1: you can add it in Software Sources
[00:28] <jgodbout1> bekks: I forget the exact name of the one that showed up in the live cd
[00:29] <jgodbout1> ubuntu-tester: That worked. Thank you!
[00:29] <verm1n> Broadcom Drivers for Linux.... Made by satan himself
[00:30] <elfer> satan?
[00:31] <bekks> verm1n: Working fine here for years now.
[00:31] <verm1n> its so sad to see the old compiz falling apart
[00:32] <ubuntu-tester> verm1n: sorry don't have it
[00:32] <verm1n> ubuntu-tester: have you been able to install any experimental plugins at all?
[00:32] <_helios_> what wine package should I install to use that dumb itunes program?
[00:33] <ubuntu-tester> verm1n: but Google shows than blur is incompatible with latest versions of compiz
[00:33] <ubuntu-tester> verm1n: *that
[00:33] <daftykins> _helios_: there's no need to use itunes at all.
[00:33] <k1l> _helios_: take a look into the appdb from wine
[00:33] <ubuntu-tester> verm1n: see https://answers.launchpad.net/compiz/+question/213658
[00:33] <_helios_> daftykins, then how am I to sync songs to my ipod touch 4g with xubuntu 12.10 ?
[00:34] <shell_> Anybody familiar with ubuntu irssi?
[00:34] <daftykins> !ipod | _helios_
[00:34] <bekks> daftykins: Besides the fact that setting up a new iPhone requires iTunes.
[00:34] <daftykins> shell_: sup?
[00:34] <k1l> !irssi | shell_
[00:34] <daftykins> bekks: used to be true, hasn't for ages afaik
[00:34] <bekks> daftykins: Still try, two weeks ago :)
[00:34] <bekks> true even.
[00:34] <k1l> daftykins: the new i-devices are not reverse engenered so far
[00:35] <daftykins> bekks: shouldn't be the case with newest iOS. otherwise, sucks to be $whoever.
[00:35] <shell_> hey daftykins, um just having trouble switching back to channels. It says things like "act: 1,3
[00:35] <daftykins> also owned for buying Apple
[00:35] <bekks> daftykins: IS the case with latest iOS.
[00:35] <daftykins> shell_: sure, hit alt+<number> where <number> is a number
[00:35] <shell_> Ah thank you.
[00:35] <_helios_> daftykins, i'll give it a try thanks.
[00:35] <daftykins> shell_: also, "/win x" when using a terminal emulator that doesn't support the alt combos
[00:36] <daftykins> bekks: bit persistent aren't we?
[00:36] <bekks> daftykins: No, I am just stating the facts :)
[00:36] <daftykins> mm-hmm. unpleasantly
[00:37] <Kireji> where else besides ~/.ssh/ does Ubuntu manage ssh keys?  some internal db anywhere?
[00:37] <Stephini> wewt managed to test it once i found out the device name...now if only i could turn off the blinking light. thanx for the help mate.
[00:37] <bekks> Kireji: No, nowhere else.
[00:37] <Stephini> sorry for my newbishness
[00:37] <Kireji> I need to delete an ssh key, can't find where it is
[00:37] <Kireji> bekks: I've found it before I know there is some command line program I ran, and it listed keys
[00:37] <ubuntu-tester> Kireji: gnome-keyring maybe
[00:39] <machicola> is there anyway I can specify exactly when I want a script to run in the order of processes at bootup?
[00:39] <Kireji> ubuntu-tester: possibly, but not in history
[00:39] <machicola> via the command line)
[00:39] <arashmousavi_> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/61014/repair-or-recover-corrupted-inode-information
[00:39] <machicola> without use of GUIs or dowloaded applications
[00:40] <digitalslave> so i updated from 12.04 which had random X crashes when watching media in a browser to 12.10 and now web pages hang and studder on my 30M down connection. Anyone know how to correct this? i already have ipv6 disabled in sysctl and blacklisted in modprobe
[00:40] <ubuntu-tester> Kireji: what history?
[00:40] <dr_willis> machicola: the upstart docs and cookbook site will detail that
[00:40] <digitalslave> happens with chrome and firefox
[00:41] <johnnyapplewood> ubuntu can write to NTFS drives right??
[00:41] <daftykins> yes.
[00:41] <johnnyapplewood> good
[00:41] <daftykins> for several years now
[00:41] <johnnyapplewood> i gotta install a 2TB hard drive and copy my data onto it
[00:41] <johnnyapplewood> never tried
[00:41] <dr_willis> johnnyapplewood: yes ntfs-3g can
[00:41] <johnnyapplewood> sorry for my tardiness
[00:42] <daftykins> johnnyapplewood: ok, but next time i get out the axe.
[00:42] <ubuntu-tester> Kireji: also did you mean your auth keys or host keys?
[00:43] <Guest56477> Does anyone know what application would work good for taking two dvd iso's and combining them into one iso
[00:43] <lsv> So for some time now I have not been able to find gnome-terminal using dash's search bar.  Any idea why?  I can run it by using Alt + F2 then writing 'gnome-terminal'
[00:44] <lsv> I'm running 12.04
[00:44] <machicola> dr_willis, thanks
[00:44] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: what sites, for example?
[00:44] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, any i can load msn.com in one tab, theverge.com in another, and yahoo.com and watch them all take ten minutes or just spin till they die
[00:45] <daftykins> digitalslave: are you using a static or dynamic private IP?
[00:45] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, usually the first tab goes and the rest get progressively worse. they might get the page layout and then take 10 minutes to display the images or just not load at all
[00:45] <digitalslave> daftykins, i am on Dynamic but it never changes
[00:46] <daftykins> digitalslave: also what is your DNS config? is your computer querying the router or hitting a service directly?
[00:46] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: don't know if they use Flash or HTML5. Flash may be the problem
[00:47] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: i mean it might be a problem with playing, not downloading
[00:47] <digitalslave> daftykins, i hit my router for dns but even changed that to different dns ips with the same result
[00:47] <daftykins> digitalslave: have you tried a clean firefox profile to see if the upgrade went quirky?
[00:47] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, but that would kill entire pages?
[00:47] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: sorry, did you mean video or other media
[00:47] <qxt> Why can't I download the 12.10 version of ubuntu. I keep getting the 12.04 ?
[00:48] <qxt> I don't want the LTS version.
[00:48] <digitalslave> daftykins, ill try that real quick
[00:48] <daftykins> qxt: visit releases.ubuntu.com directly
[00:48] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: that could slow down browser
[00:48] <qxt> daftykins I'll give that a try.
[00:49] <Rallias> So my grandma's laptop currently runs LUbuntu, but is pitifully slow at it (it eats up all her ram :/ ) What can I install that looks similar in interface but is light weight?
[00:49] <_helios_> Rallias, try xubuntu
[00:49] <qxt> daftykins thx daftykins. Works there. Funny  the official site does not give the right version.
[00:50] <Rallias> _helios_, What's it's normal memory footprint?
[00:50] <Ben64> 12.04 is pretty awesome though
[00:50] <daftykins> qxt: how odd, oh well! :) my pleasure.
[00:51] <ubuntu-tester> Rallias: how much RAM in the laptop?
[00:51] <lsv> So for some time now I have not been able to find gnome-terminal using dash's search bar.  Any idea why?  I can run it by using Alt + F2 then writing 'gnome-terminal'
[00:51] <_helios_> Rallias, I have two systems installed with xubuntu 12.1064bit one with 2gb of ram and another with 800gb of ram it seems to utilize what it can,  Good memory management.
[00:51] <Rallias> ubuntu-tester, 256 mb
[00:51] <_helios_> Rallias, not 800gb but 800mb typo lol
[00:51] <Rallias> _helios_, Yeah... my grandma's has 256 mb ram.
[00:51] <ubuntu-tester> Rallias: pityful indeed :)
[00:52] <digitalslave> daftykins, didnt help. 5 tabs open and 3 aren't displaying anything yet
[00:52] <daftykins> Rallias: if you're going for recent distros, 256MB will never cut it
[00:52] <daftykins> digitalslave: hrmm, could be a driver issue then. total guess. can you identify your network chipset and google about it?
[00:52] <digitalslave> daftykins, most of the data is there but all 5 are still spinning
[00:52] <digitalslave> daftykins, i was kinda wondering that earlier
[00:53] <Rallias> daftykins, It runs openbox without much trouble, I just don't want to teach her openbox.
[00:53] <mynick13> Rallias: something like puppylinux would work better
[00:53] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: what ping to these sites show?
[00:53] <digitalslave> daftykins, but everything else is blazing fast
[00:53] <digitalslave> daftykins, i do speed tests and get 30M down still
[00:53] <daftykins> local or online?
[00:53] <daftykins> hmm.
[00:53] <daftykins> try another browser then maybe
[00:54] <daftykins> for fun
[00:54] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, 12-50ms
[00:54] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: stable, no losses or spikes?
[00:54] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, i did speed tests and still got 30M down but it's bear to get anything to load in any browser - no spikes
[00:54] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: run for 2 min
[00:55] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, i have been doing it all day and even had my isp on the line to confirm
[00:55] <Rallias> I think I'm going to try xubuntu.
[00:55] <sabgenton> is there any free for all directory you username can write to (out side of /home)?
[00:55] <daftykins> digitalslave: i'd see how it goes from a livecd/USB too
[00:56] <daftykins> sabgenton: unlikely
[00:56] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: throughput (speedtest),  latency and losses are three different things. all contribute to browsing quality and experience
[00:56] <digitalslave> daftykins, yeah i'm gonna do that but ive also seen installation problems between a live cd and a fresh install so it worries me
[00:57] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: no by default, but you can create one
[00:57] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, i had 12-15ms response to google.com for a good hour earlier and was still getting it i could watch the pings come in constant while the browser stalled
[00:57] <sabgenton> for shure I just mean one allready there
[00:57] <hippiehacker> is there a way to use grub-pc to install grub-pc onto a usb stick while booted on a system with grub-efi intalled without having to remove grub-efi?
[00:58] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: if you have problems with msn, you should ping msn, not google
[00:58] <sabgenton> what is the most readable to all directorys then
[00:58] <sabgenton>  /user/share  i guess?
[00:58] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: yes, for example
[00:59] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, i have problems with all sites - like i said i load up 5-6 sites and it takes 10 minutes to finish loading and a few of them may just die off
[00:59] <dr_willis> sabgenton:  what are you trying to acomplish exactly?
[00:59] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, msn.com doesnt ping back - you need a host that will echo
[01:00] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: well what about 1-2-3 sites, better?
[01:00] <sabgenton> dr_willis: just puting things where all users can see them I guess I dont need write
[01:00] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, other device in my house work just fine
[01:00] <sabgenton> dr_willis: is nobody:nogroup good for that sorta thing?
[01:00] <dr_willis> sabgenton:  'things' ? ;)  what sortof things.. you  could make a directory anywhere and link it to /media/SharedStuff for example
[01:01] <sabgenton> dr_willis: what should I chmod it as
[01:01] <dr_willis> depends on the exact details - read only i think is 644, id have to double check..
[01:02] <dr_willis> !permissions
[01:02] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: other devices are connected through same router? some routers may limit number of simultaneous active connections
[01:02] <sabgenton> or root:root is find...
[01:02] <sabgenton> dr_willis: sorry I mean group owner
[01:02] <sabgenton> find=fine
[01:02] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: sorry, that was for digitalslave :)
[01:02] <dr_willis> dont confuse owner with permissions. :)  you can  let people READ stuff with just permissions
[01:02] <dr_willis> Got a job.. bb in a while..
[01:03] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, yes the router and cable modem have been tested and all devices go though both.
[01:03] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: OK, next guess: do you have firewall set up?
[01:04] <digitalslave> ubuntu-tester, no firewall on the box just on the router and that has not changed since the ubuntu upgrade
[01:04] <sabgenton> dr_willis: ok so just leave the group as root then I guess
[01:05] <ubuntu-tester> digitalslave: and problems started after upgrade?
[01:05] <sabgenton> as root will have to create it in the first place
[01:05] <mittenchops> I subscribe to canonical support, but haven't been able to access the support portal since they changed it in late November.
[01:05] <fellayaboy> hey wheres the option in compiz manager to select an area of the screen to take a screenshot
[01:05] <digitalslave> yeah internet was lightning fast on 12.04 but 12.10 its a nightmare although i'm not have the X crashes like i was in 12.04
[01:05] <unreal82> sabgenton: remember to use chmod to grant read only permissions to the folder you're creating. And yes, use root to create the directory, and give sole ownership to yourself.
[01:06] <sabgenton> unreal82: er do you mean root:root   or  like root:me        or change to me:me
[01:06] <doctorly> what is the best way to scroll up in tty?
[01:07] <sabgenton> shift page up
[01:07] <unreal82> I'd create a group for read only, and make root own it. like so root:<others>
[01:07] <fellayaboy> is there anyway i can select an area of my screen to take a screen shot???
[01:07] <doctorly> that doesnt work for me
[01:07] <sabgenton> are you in screen?
[01:07] <doctorly> nope, just tty
[01:08] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: you better create top directory as root, chown to yourself, and place files as yourself, giving read permissions to others. don't work too mush as root
[01:08] <fellayaboy> i mean the desktop...the X windows and all that regular gui i mean
[01:08] <doctorly> that was the first thing I ttried
[01:08] <sabgenton> doctorly: well thats the nummber one way to do it
[01:08] <fellayaboy> i wanna take a picture of my desktop but a section of it
[01:08] <ubuntu-tester> unreal82: didnt' see your answer :)
[01:09] <sabgenton> if you've learnt screen you that and I think crtl-esc then just use arrows
[01:09] <fellayaboy> i remember with older compiz there was an option to take a screenshot and u can just hight and select
[01:09] <doctorly> I am just in regular tty and it wont scroll up, its off
[01:10] <sabgenton> ubuntu-tester: so  sudo mkdir /bla  ; chown me:me             and so on ?
[01:11] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: yes, i'd add () around for sure
[01:13] <sabgenton> doctorly: if shift page up doesn't scroll somthings non standerd but if you type screen go in to a screen session you can then Ctrl+a  <ESC>  to scroll with keys
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[01:13] <sabgenton> scrolling
[01:14] <machicola> how do i list directories only in the terminal
[01:14] <ubuntu-tester> machicola: ls
[01:14] <machicola> that lists files & directories
[01:16] <sabgenton> doctorly: another screen trick is use [ instead of esc  then <enter>select text <enter>   then ctrl+A    ]   to paste
[01:16] <sabgenton> well esc or [ are the same
[01:16] <singharkirat> I installed ubuntu 11.10 on lenovo thinkstation s20
[01:17] <singharkirat> I need some help..
[01:17] <brecker> hi, I need to recover some files from two ssd that where hooked up as a raid on a sony notebook with win 7, if i get those darn micro sata adaptors, does anyone know if I should I be able to mount it on a different machine running ubuntu as a deprecated raid and access its files? I'm not really sure if the raid was software or hardware based yet
[01:17] <sabgenton> ubuntu-tester: ok thanks,  why subshell?  ( )
[01:17] <daftykins> brecker: RAID 0 or 1?
[01:18] <brecker> daftykins: i think it is raid 0
[01:18] <singharkirat> Any one? I need help for ubuntu 11.10 ubuntu.....
[01:18] <brecker> daftykins: looking online atm
[01:18] <daftykins> brecker: i think that'd be a really bad idea to try and use Linux for, if for example - the RAID is provided by an intel chipset (motherboard based)
[01:19] <mittenchops> Are the PPAs that Steam linux recommends safe?  ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates?
[01:19] <brecker> daftykins: both ssd's are common 1.8" toshiba ssd's, sony doesn't give much hint on it, still looking
[01:20] <daftykins> brecker: ah it's one of those factory provided RAID configs in a sony laptop?
[01:20] <brecker> daftykins:  Intel® ICH8M-E/ICH9M-E/5 Series SATA RAID Controller Driver
[01:20] <brecker> daftykins: yes
[01:21] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: to be sure both commands will run as root. {} is better i see
[01:21] <psusi> brecker, it's fake raid.. you will need to plug in both disks and install the dmraid package to recognize it
[01:21] <daftykins> brecker: yeah i wouldn't recommend trying to gain access from a Linux, unless you see the volume perfectly at boot
[01:22] <psusi> brecker, you might want to peruse wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[01:22] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: no {} doesn't work :)
[01:22] <sabgenton> I don't think you can 'sudo' a subshell
[01:22] <psusi> brecker, why do you need to recover externally?  did the laptop die?
[01:22] <brecker> psusi: cool thanks, are there any risks? and you sure it is a fake raid?
[01:23] <psusi> brecker, yep, I'm sure
[01:23] <daftykins> brecker: it's really unlikely there'd be a true RAID controller in there.
[01:23] <sabgenton> this is the way  sudo bash -c 'mkdir /bla ; chown /bla'
[01:23] <brecker> psusi: yes, it has some electrical problems
[01:23] <psusi> brecker, well, hopefully both drives are ok
[01:23] <doctorly> sabgenton: I figured it out, if you switch to another tty session it can delete the others tail. So it just wouldnt scroll up because the tail didnt exist
[01:24] <sabgenton> ubuntu-tester: gta go thanks for the help
[01:24] <sabgenton> doctorly: for shure learn screen it doesn't have that problem :D
[01:25] <daftykins> brecker: should be alright on another intel ICHxR based chipset (i.e. ICH8R, ICH9R, ICH10R)
[01:25] <sabgenton> screen runs shells inside the shell it runs from and you do every thing in there
[01:25] <brecker> psusi: i think so, from time to time it starts for a few seconds then it dies, i think it has some bad solder / capacitor or something else that is bothering, when it starts it almost boots windows, so my guess is that they are good
[01:26] <psusi> daftykins, doesn't have to be same chipset for Linux to recognize it.. you just won't be able to boot from it
[01:26] <daftykins> psusi: i'm recommending not allowing a Linux to look at that volume personally.
[01:27] <daftykins> psusi: but if you're sure it's fine...
[01:29] <brecker> cool, i was planning on accesing it on an amd system
[01:29] <sabgenton> doctorly: also if your bash shell crashes you you get knocked of a remote ssh session you can still get you shell with screen -r or screen -x
[01:29] <daftykins> AMD? chipset? err.
[01:29] <sabgenton> gta go bye :)
[01:30] <skeuomorf> Guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu, it's Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-21-generic x86_64, I have installed the graphics drivers per this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/a/210565/95523 my problem is that when I shutdown or restart the computer it shows some stuff in command-line and doesn't shut down, I have to do a hard power off from the button to shut it down
[01:30] <skeuomorf> I have searched on askubuntu and google, couldn't find any solution whatsoever
[01:31] <daftykins> skeuomorf: was there something wrong with the ATI drivers ubuntu offered?
[01:31] <skeuomorf> hybrid graphics don't work and the laptop heats up all the time
[01:32] <daftykins> skeuomorf: has that guide's manual download+install solved that?
[01:33] <solrac> how do i   upgrade ubuntu from iso image?
[01:33] <daftykins> solrac: you need the alternate CD image for that. can't do it with the normal install/live one
[01:34] <dr_willis> hmm. htere is no alt-cd for 12.10   but i thought if you booted it - it would ask to upgrade
[01:34] <daftykins> i did not know that
[01:35] <dr_willis> im not sure if you can just pop in the desktop cd and it will ask to upgrade.
[01:35] <sergio> HI
[01:35] <skeuomorf> daftykins: yes, hybrid graphics now works, 2 problems exist though: 1- can't shutdown or reboot normally most of the time. 2- whenever I do apt-get upgrade, it shows me that 3 graphics packages need to be downgraded, 3 fglrx packages, I did that before and lightdm wouldn't open after it, so I unrolled all and went again per the tutorial but this time I didn't upgrade the packages
[01:36] <Guest34539> i need help, i am trying to install the DIvx on my Edubuntu
[01:36] <solrac> shows me only a new installation don't know wy
[01:36] <daftykins> skeuomorf: yeah you're gonna constantly have issues with that, unless you find a way to have APT ignore the fglrx packages. as per shutdown+reboot issue, you might just have to live with it. the best idea would be to post logs of your system at shutdown/reboot and try and see what's going wrong. does it fail with both GPU 'modes' ?
[01:36] <dr_willis> Guest34539:  what 'divx' ?
[01:37] <funky> if i install gnome 3, will i be able to go back to unity? if so how?
[01:37] <dr_willis> funky:  at the login  screen, select the desktop you want to use
[01:37] <k1l> funky: yes
[01:37] <skeuomorf> daftykins: I will maybe block these packages from the update manager. and regarding the shutdown, I was thinking about trying both modes, cause I didn't give that any attention before, n00b mistake
[01:38] <Guest34539> i am trying to watch movies on this website but i need Divx in my compute
[01:38] <skeuomorf> daftykins: It fails using the intel graphics, I am sure of that
[01:38] <solrac> aaaaaaaaa let me see
[01:38] <skeuomorf> daftykins: I will try shutting down using the ATI one now and will be back
[01:38] <skeuomorf> daftykins: Thanks for your help, brb :)
[01:38] <funky> i'm folliwng this tutorial: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[01:38] <Public> hi
[01:38] <dr_willis> Guest34539:  what site and whats playing the movie? you could try installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras package.  I know of no 'divx' codec or package
[01:38] <funky> at the last step, it says sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-settings
[01:39] <Guest34539> this website  www.veehd.com
[01:39] <funky> Does that remove some of the unity components?
[01:39] <Public> does someone here know how to change the dictionnary set by default in calibre ?
[01:40] <k1l> funky: that is something different from just installing the gnome-shell
[01:40] <Public> oups
[01:40] <Guest34539> or this website too. www.freefullmovies.net
[01:40] <Public> hello
[01:40] <k1l> funky: after that tutorial you cant switch back to unity
[01:41] <Public> is it time for bed ?
[01:41] <Public> #calibre is empty :'(
[01:41] <Guest34539> dr_willis where can i install ubuntu-restricte-extra package?
[01:43] <Ziber> Is there a way I can change the default port that my ssh client tries to connect on?
[01:43] <k1l> Ziber: ssh -p portnumber
[01:43] <Ziber> Yes, but I want it to chose an alternate port (I use a non-standard port on my servers) by default.
[01:43] <dr_willis> Guest34539: its in the package manager tools
[01:44] <dr_willis> Ziber: make an alias or check into the ssh config files
[01:45] <Guest34539> okay i'll be back i am going to try that. Thank you dr_willis
[01:46] <skeuomorf> daftykins: same problem
[01:46] <skeuomorf> daftykins: with the dgpu and igpu
[01:47] <Jikan> seriously, it's a pity there's no way to have Ubuntu displaying filesizes correctly -__-
[01:48] <rushy> can anyone help me, trying to install server 12.10
[01:48] <rushy> it won't see my raid setup only individual disk's
[01:48] <bekks> rushy: Which RAID?
[01:48] <Chanshark> Jikan:  its a pity i have been trying for 3 days to get my wifi usb attachment to work
[01:48] <rushy> raid5
[01:48] <bekks> rushy: Some Mobo RAID?
[01:48] <k1l> Jikan: ?
[01:49] <rushy> yeah
[01:49] <bekks> rushy: Wontwork. Wontfix. Thats a RAID requiring Windows drivers.
[01:50] <rushy> ok so i would need to get a raid controller?
[01:50] <daftykins> Jikan: 'correctly' ?
[01:50] <Chanshark> is anyone having the same problem, they cant get their usb wireless adapter to connect
[01:50] <daftykins> skeuomorf: lames. guess you need to go log trawling!
[01:50] <bekks> rushy: Or you need to setup a software raid in Ubuntu.
[01:50] <Jikan> k1l, daftykins: IEC way, not this silly base 10 system
[01:50] <chamunks> navicat is having a hard time connecting to mysql on a ubuntu default vanilla install.
[01:50] <mrdavid> iptables question. I'm trying to open port 514 to a single ip and block it for everything else. I did "iptables -A INPUT -i venet0:0 -p tcp --dport 514 -j ACCEPT -s 1.2.3.4" and then "iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -p tcp --dport 514" connections from 1.2.3.4 are still not coming through
[01:50] <skeuomorf> daftykins: sorry, I am a bit of a n00b in linux, how can I acquire shutdown logs?
[01:51] <skeuomorf> daftykins: cause I have no idea where they're stored
[01:51] <daftykins> skeuomorf: i'm not really 100% on that either.
[01:51] <daftykins> skeuomorf: lots of stuffs in /var/log/
[01:51] <skeuomorf> daftykins: okay, thank you
[01:51] <daftykins> np!
[01:51] <Chanshark> daftykins:  i was wrong
[01:51] <Chanshark> and im mad
[01:52] <daftykins> Chanshark: er, wrong and mad regarding...?
[01:52] <Chanshark> the fing wifi adapter wont work
[01:52] <Chanshark> i have literary tried everything
[01:54] <rushy> bekks: rather not. ok so heres my next question. i'm setting up a server to run web hosting, data, dns and possibly email. its for a small business. i was told by a co-worker at my job that what they do is they have 1 disk (usually a small one) just for the OS then they run RAID for data and other stuff. If i put the os on 1 disk will i still be able to see the raid disk's afterwards if i go
[01:54] <rushy> with a different hardware raid controller?
[01:54] <brecker> psusi: basically i just need to install fakeraid and plug both hds? i was looking on how to procede with fakeraid and plug & play seems too good to be true, or at least should I have both drives connected before bootup?
[01:55] <bekks> rushy: Using a HW RAID controller, I'll just use all disks. Meanwhile, I'll just use a software raid in Ubuntu which is quite more portable.
[01:56] <psusi> brecker, doesn't matter... once you have the drives in and the dmraid package installed, it should show up in /dev/mapper/isw_blahblah
[01:56] <Chanshark> im about to give up t
[01:56] <rushy> bekks: yeah but doens't software raid slow things down? not as reliable?
[01:57] <bekks> rushy: Using a current CPU you wont even notice it.
[01:57] <brecker> psusi: cool, thanks a lot again!
[01:58] <psusi> software raid actually tends to be more reliable
[01:58] <rushy> bekks: well its an older cpu (like 4 years old)
[01:58] <psusi> and the performance difference is minimal
[01:58] <bekks> rushy: You wont notice it.
[01:59] <bekks> rushy: Even with a ten year old CPU your network will be the bottleneck when it comes to fast I/O.
[01:59] <psusi> rushy, there's also no need for a dedicated os disk
[01:59] <bekks> A dedicated OS disk introduces a single point of failure.
[01:59] <psusi> indeed
[02:00] <psusi> so better to not have one
[02:00] <bekks> psusi: ack.
[02:00] <poseidon> Is it possible to install ubuntu with no desktop environment?
[02:00] <poseidon> or without X even
[02:00] <rushy> bekks: ok now my biggest problem....i can't get any iso's to burn or to get on a USB and install the server. i did get most of it to burn on a DVD but every time i burn it says burn failed
[02:00] <bekks> poseidon: Sure.
[02:00] <Jikan> poseidon: yes
[02:00] <poseidon> I just want a base install
[02:00] <bekks> rushy: Then you have a faulty burning device.
[02:01] <rushy> bekks: even USB?
[02:01] <psusi> poseidon, sure, just not with the live cd
[02:01] <rushy> i've used 2 different usb's and still nothing
[02:01] <bekks> rushy: You do not burn things on USB.
[02:01] <Chanshark> i hate usbs
[02:01] <rushy> i know that i'm saying i can't even get a bootable usb to work
[02:02] <sporkboy> okay, I know my wireless connect used to happen before login. Now it does not. How do I change this back?
[02:02] <rushy> its doesn't even show anything. i know i can boot on the usb cause i did it with gparted but i can't get it to work
[02:02] <limpc> daftykins, you around?
[02:03] <limpc> I gave up trying to fix the ubuntu installation and decided to just reinstall clean
[02:03] <daftykins> limpc: yes sir
[02:03] <limpc> however i can't even do that.
[02:03] <daftykins> no?
[02:03] <limpc> usb dies when the installer loads
[02:03] <daftykins> limpc: did you find that PS/2 keyboard to try and check logs?
[02:03] <Chanshark> i have a different reason for a burning hatred towards usbs
[02:04] <limpc> daftykins, yeah i did, but i didn't see anything. it looked like it found usb
[02:04] <limpc> but it also says it found ethernet, but ethernet is also dead
[02:04] <daftykins> =/
[02:04] <daftykins> limpc: this was the new motherboard scenario, was it not?
[02:05] <limpc> ethernet is an r8169 chipset
[02:05] <Chanshark> daftykins:  i give up >.>
[02:05] <Guest34539> hello dr_willis   are you able to run Windows programs in your Ubuntu?
[02:05] <limpc> daftykins, new motherboard scennario?
[02:05] <daftykins> Chanshark: oh, sorry i went to get alcohol.
[02:05] <k1l> !wine | Guest34539
[02:05] <daftykins> Chanshark: yeah i have no idea, sorry
[02:05] <Chanshark> like its detecting it and everything
[02:06] <limpc> anyone here running ubuntu on a gigabyte 990fxa mobo?
[02:06] <daftykins> limpc: i'm not sure what your last problem was, i've kinda forgotten ;x
[02:06] <Chanshark> it just does not want to i really just have no flipping idea what im doing
[02:06] <daftykins> Chanshark: so you get an interface up?
[02:06] <limpc> hm i didn't have a last problem, i haven't been in here except for this issue
[02:06] <Chanshark> would wine do the trick?
[02:06] <daftykins> Chanshark: dear god no
[02:06] <daftykins> wine doesn't do drivers
[02:06] <Chanshark> f
[02:06] <Chanshark> well time to go get 5 bottles of it
[02:07] <limpc> doesn't it with ndiswrapper?
[02:07] <Chanshark> yes
[02:07] <daftykins> limpc: oh so before it was stopping after an upgrade, now it's not booting live?
[02:07] <Chanshark> but newest version of ubuntu and mint broke it
[02:07] <limpc> daftykins, no that was probably someone else.  my problem was from installing a brand new mono and trying to boot up my existing ubuntu os (since both were gigabyte boards i figured they should be ok)
[02:08] <limpc> it boots fine but no USB support, no Ethernet
[02:08] <brecker> psusi: last question, would usb adapters work or I need to connect them to sata ports?
[02:08] <limpc> dmesg shows it finds ethernet
[02:08] <limpc> no errors that i could see
[02:08] <daftykins> limpc: ah so i was right, mobo swap situ
[02:08] <daftykins> mmk
[02:09] <daftykins> limpc: any major differences between new and old?
[02:09] <limpc> oh ok i thought you meant like software or driver upgrade
[02:09] <limpc> well they're pretty far apart. old one is about 3 years old - new one is the latest and greatest from Gigabyte
[02:09] <limpc> old one didn't support more than 8gb ram
[02:09] <Guest34539> but is many types of Wine like wine-gecko1.4, wine1.4-amd64, gnome-exe, wine1.2, wine1.4-dbg, wine1.4-common wine1.2, wine1.3 i dont know which one?
[02:10] <Chanshark> is there wine made for chanshark because he is about to cry because he has been trying to get wifi to work for 3 days now
[02:10]  * daftykins gifts Chanshark a virtualbox installed dl for Windows
[02:11] <daftykins> *installer
[02:11] <Chanshark> :D
[02:12] <limpc> i bet windows will install on this mono :P
[02:12] <limpc> mobo
[02:12] <daftykins> afaik he has Windows and wireless working ;D
[02:12] <daftykins> that's the best part!
[02:12] <psusi> brecker, usb adapters will work
[02:12] <limpc> anyone here running ubuntu on a gigabyte 990fxa mobo?
[02:13] <brecker> psusi: thanks
[02:13] <otend> for a new external hard drive, ext3 or ext4?
[02:13] <otend> (on a moderately powerful system)
[02:14] <psusi> ext4 always
[02:15] <Chanshark> so daftykinsi put "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" into terminal and it outputs "Module ndiswrapper not found"
[02:16] <daftykins> still huh
[02:16] <daftykins> and you deffo 'make' 'd and 'make install' 'd?
[02:16] <Chanshark> huh
[02:17] <Chanshark> i used package manager to install it
[02:17] <daftykins> limpc: sorry if this is too obvious. have you seen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12447480
[02:17] <daftykins> Chanshark: er, the guide said you have to compile ndiswrapper from source to avoid the bug.
[02:17] <ubuntu-tester> otend: ntfs if you plan sharing content with Windows machines
[02:17] <Chanshark> so do i need to remove the ndiswrapper
[02:17] <otend> nope
[02:18] <Chanshark> is that nope directed at me?
[02:18] <otend> I don't have anything against Windows machines, but I wouldn't leave them to watch my children
[02:18] <otend> nah, at ubuntu-tester
[02:18] <Chanshark> oh
[02:18] <daftykins> Chanshark: yeah kill it with fire, download latest ndiswrapper source, compile + install, try again
[02:18] <Chanshark> well i had downloaded a bunch
[02:19] <ubuntu-tester> otend: remember, you can choose friends, bun not their OSes :)
[02:20] <otend> true
[02:20] <limpc> daftykins, hmm no i hadn't seen that. though i saw that a lot of people were having problems with it.  hmm
[02:20] <Chanshark> what i had installed was ndiswrapper-scourse, ndiswrapper-dkms, ndiswrapper-ultils-1.9, ndiswrapper-common
[02:20] <limpc> i just confirmed it does work on the usb 3.0 ports.
[02:20] <otend> fortunately, this is only a portable external because we have a dog that knocks over drives like crazy
[02:20] <Chanshark> *source
[02:20] <otend> and caused the death of my Seagate external
[02:20] <daftykins> limpc: looks like the chipset doesn't work well with Linux in general.
[02:20] <cjae> so what happens when you have firefox and chrome on the same machine and ff has flash 11.2 and chrome  wants higher version
[02:21] <limpc> I've always had gigabyte motherboards - for some 12 years. never had this problem
[02:21] <limpc> strange.
[02:21] <Chanshark> otend:  my seagate external 50 tb death was caused by they left i a screw in the middle and it shorted it
[02:21] <daftykins> limpc: it's an AMD chipset. that's instant alarm bells to me ;x
[02:21] <otend> oof
[02:21] <bentinata> cjae, nothing
[02:21] <daftykins> though i haven't run AMD in years
[02:21] <limpc> pfft
[02:22] <Chanshark> i use floppy disk as storage :D
[02:22] <limpc> I've been on AMD since my first dual cpu Athlon II
[02:22] <limpc> or was it Athlon MP.. i can't remember heh
[02:22] <compdoc>  limpc, are you having netowrk and usb problems?
[02:22] <otend> I eat disk space like mad
[02:22] <limpc> compdoc, yea
[02:22] <Chanshark> so uh daftykins which of the list do i uninstall
[02:23] <limpc> though I've likely found the solution (though not a very fun one)
[02:23] <compdoc> limpc, in the bios, disable IMMOU, or however thats spelt
[02:23] <Chanshark> i found a solution for disk space :D
[02:23] <cjae> bentinata: well wont two versions of flash not work on a machine?
[02:23] <daftykins> Chanshark: probly anything related to ndiswrapper
[02:23] <limpc> compdoc, in which section of the bios, and what is it?
[02:23] <bentinata> cjae, no, that's fine
[02:23] <cjae> bentinata: how will package manager handle it
[02:24] <fireshibby> here's a quick question, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10, and It's on a failing laptop hard drive xD any gustimations on how long I have?
[02:24] <bentinata> cjae, install the flash player inside the browser
[02:24] <Chanshark> uuh yea daftykins its not letting me remove it
[02:24] <fiveofoh> Umm, yesterday?  The OS doesn't have much to do with failing hard drive life
[02:24] <compdoc> limpc, I dont remember. After setting up my Gigabyte board a couple of months ago, I havent messed with it much. Does it boot to the desktop ok?
[02:24] <fiveofoh> Find yourself a backup drive and get on it :P
[02:24] <daftykins> Chanshark: don't look at me!
[02:24] <bentinata> cjae, just try it! ;)
[02:25] <fireshibby> I have an external that I save my stuff on :p but i've been running on the failing drive for at least 4 months
[02:25] <compdoc> limpc, oh, it has do to with hardware passthru for virtual machines
[02:25] <limpc> yes it does
[02:25] <Chanshark> it says if i uninstall it, it will remove mint-meta-core mintwifi ndisgtk ndiswrapper-dkms
[02:25] <cjae> bentinata: i c,
[02:25] <Guest34539> which Wine do i have to install, since is many of them, like this one, Wine-gecko1, gecko1.4, wine1.4amd64 or wine1.4 common, wine1.2, wine1.2, wine1.3?
[02:25] <cmj141> hi
[02:25] <johnnyapplewood> probably a really stupid question... is it possible to extend partition sizes across drives (without using RAID)?
[02:25] <fiveofoh> Well yeah, that's the nature of failing HD, you're running on borrowed time.  As long as you're well-backed-up, I guess wait until it fails and replace it
[02:25] <fiveofoh> Or replace it now if you can
[02:26] <johnnyapplewood> i have a 2TB drive in my machine plus a 500GB and I dont want to lose data but i'd like to extend them across each other
[02:26] <fireshibby> my uncle said he has a spare drive he's gonna give to me, it's all up to when I can meet up with him.
[02:26] <fiveofoh> Hey all.  Just upgraded to 12.04, which uses PHP 5.3.10, which has a critical-to-me that wasn't fixed until 5.3.11.  Don't want to upgrade to 5.4 yet because it threw all kinds of errors...what are my options?
[02:26] <fiveofoh> *critical-to-me bug
[02:26]  * fireshibby cant update to 12.04 
[02:26] <cmj141> question, if you download and zip from the internet and extract it yourself.. how does one create a shortcut say in the window manager?
[02:26] <johnnyapplewood> downgrade
[02:26] <bentinata> johnnyapplewood, your nickname is too long
[02:26] <fiveofoh> Downgrade my OS, or can I just download PHP?
[02:27] <fiveofoh> *downgrade
[02:27] <Chanshark> so yea daftykins how do i compile it from the source because incase this crashes my interwebz
[02:27] <limpc> compdoc, mine is already disabled
[02:27] <johnnyapplewood> if u can find the old version of PHP just downgrade that
[02:27] <compdoc> shucks
[02:27] <cjae> bentinata: it was just lingering around in my head, as I am a ff fanman and hate to see what is happening...
[02:27] <johnnyapplewood> u'll need to purge the current one first
[02:27] <daftykins> Chanshark: well the bug page had a guide, maybe save that locally?
[02:27] <fiveofoh> There aren't any available versions previously in the precise repos, but can I add a previous version's repo and force the version?
[02:27] <Chanshark> where is it again
[02:28] <bentinata> cjae, I'm a FF fan too xD
[02:28] <daftykins> Chanshark: er say 'bug ###' and it'll link you
[02:28] <compdoc> limpc, search your manual for "PCI Latency Timer" does that exist in yours?
[02:28] <Chanshark> bug ###
[02:28] <ubuntu-tester> cmj141: shortcut for what, program, doc?
[02:28] <Chanshark> errrr
[02:28] <Guest34539> can someone help me with my question, since is many of the Wine to install i dont know which to install?
[02:28] <fiveofoh> I could also compile from source and checkinstall, but I don't know what configure options Ubuntu uses and don't want to break them
[02:28] <bentinata> Guest34539, I use wine1.5
[02:29] <daftykins> !wine | Guest34539
[02:29] <cjae> bentinata: kind of harsh thing to happen to a path clearing company
[02:29] <ubuntu-tester> johnnyapplewood: extending is possible with lvm but you have to move data somewhere temporarily
[02:30] <daftykins> Chanshark: the hashes need to be the bug number ;)
[02:30] <johnnyapplewood> blehs...
[02:30] <Chanshark> how do i know what the bug number is...
[02:30] <johnnyapplewood> sigh.. gonna have to find my external drive now :-(
[02:30] <compdoc> limpc, hopefully youve downloaded the manual in pdf
[02:30] <aj_> after i've hit ctrl alt f1 ... what do i type to get back to the desktop ?
[02:31] <bentinata> aj_, alt+f7
[02:31] <Chanshark> johnnyapplewood:  i have a cloud in my house, so i gess you could say my house is foggy he he he
[02:31] <aj_> thank you bentinata
[02:31] <johnnyapplewood> a cloud in your house? by definition a cloud is not on a LAN
[02:31] <bentinata> aj_, you're welcome :)
[02:31] <johnnyapplewood> otherwise it's a NAS
[02:31] <johnnyapplewood> or possibly just a share
[02:31] <Chanshark> i have a server room with 601 tb disk space
[02:31] <johnnyapplewood> 601?
[02:32] <Chanshark> yes 601 tb
[02:32] <johnnyapplewood> how did you get 601?
[02:32] <johnnyapplewood> that's an odd number
[02:32] <johnnyapplewood> you have 601 x 1TB drives?
[02:32] <Chanshark> well there is a 1tb drive in there lol
[02:32] <Chanshark> + 600tb
[02:32] <ubuntu-tester> cmj141: in Nautilus context menu for a file choose Make Link, then move link to desktop
[02:33]  * fiveofoh is gonna try adding an oneiric repo and forcing version
[02:34] <Chanshark> johnnyapplewood:  also known as 660,806,488,293,376 Byte
[02:34] <johnnyapplewood> pray tell... how do you power that many drives at once?
[02:34] <Chanshark> with power?
[02:34] <Ben64> !ot
[02:34] <ubuntu-tester> Chanshark: you work and live in a datacenter? :)
[02:34] <johnnyapplewood> cant with standard residential wiring
[02:34] <johnnyapplewood> exactly i was just doing the math... not possible
[02:34] <Chanshark> lol no i use solor pannels just for that room
[02:35] <johnnyapplewood> yea now i know your lying
[02:35] <Ben64> none of this is ubuntu support, take it elsewhere
[02:35] <Chanshark> that room has its own power source
[02:35] <johnnyapplewood> see you in #ubuntu-ot
[02:36] <Chanshark> lol johnnyapplewood i only buy more space why its 75% off or more
[02:37] <Chanshark> like 500-570 tb i got for 90% off lol
[02:37] <Chanshark> i consider it a great investment :D
[02:38] <Chanshark> bug #986064
[02:38] <djzn> any news on works for getting unity dash on the bottom?
[02:39] <josh_> given that the overlay scrollbars are quite possibly the most hated ubuntu feature of all time, why are they still there?
[02:39] <Chanshark> daftykins:  i found it!
[02:40] <Chanshark> well her we go
[02:40] <daftykins> Chanshark: :O
[02:40] <Chanshark> time to uninstall these thingy
[02:41] <Chanshark> i have a 99% feeling im about to delete my system32 but for linux
[02:41] <chamunks> Anyone here used navicat to access mysql on an ubuntu target before?
[02:41] <ubuntu-tester> djzn: there's a fork in early-early alpha, forgot it's name
[02:42] <Chanshark> its removing it
[02:42] <Chanshark> all most done
[02:42] <anunnaki> anyone familiar with this? Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap"
[02:42] <leidner> does anyone in here have good experiences with free DNS providers?
[02:42] <ubuntu-tester> Chanshark: wrong tab?
[02:43] <Chanshark> lol im just kidding
[02:43] <bentinata> anunnaki, me
[02:43] <bentinata> anunnaki, you can help?
[02:44] <ubuntu-tester> anunnaki: OpenDNS works pretty well for me
[02:44] <leidner> thanks anunnaki
[02:44] <ubuntu-tester> anunnaki: sorry that was for leidner
[02:44] <leidner> is there a good description out there how to set up a linux box for remote ssh from the net?
[02:44] <leidner> (incl DNS etc)
[02:45] <leidner> thanks in advance for any pointers
[02:45] <Guest55078> Hello.
[02:45] <ubuntu-tester> leidner: oh, you mean Dyndns etc., got you wrong
[02:46] <Guest55078> Right, now I need to remember how to change my nickname in IRC -scratches head-
[02:46] <leidner> ubuntu-tester: yes
[02:46] <bentinata> it call "epiphany-browser"
[02:46] <djzn> ubuntu-tester: a fork of what
[02:47] <BlackDalek> If I install ubuntu onto my imac (an early intel core duo), do I need to install the 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[02:47] <Chanshark> uuh daftykins terminal is saying it does not  understand these commands
[02:47] <ubuntu-tester> djzn: of Unity, with bottom placement
[02:47] <djzn> ubuntu-tester: why does it need to be  a fork, just put the implementation right through...
[02:48] <CrusaderAD> does anyone know wtf this evolution-calendar error is that keeps popping up?
[02:48] <daftykins> Chanshark: look up a guide on compiling mebbe
[02:49] <fireshibby> Guest55078, just use /nick -nickname here-
[02:49] <BlackDalek> has anyone here got ubuntu installed on an imac?
[02:49] <GOSEAHAWX> Holy fuck
[02:50] <feeshon> Running KVM on ubuntu....What is the best place to store the qcow files?
[02:50] <Guest55078> I just installed mine on my old dell -sweatdrop-
[02:50] <fireshibby> I have ubuntu on my old dell too :p due to the hard drive failing it can only run ubuntu perfectly normal, but i have no problem with it
[02:50] <clfs> join #c
[02:51] <fiveofoh> Hmm, well after some fiddling with dependencies, looks like I've successfully downgraded to PHP 5.3.6
[02:51] <fiveofoh> Yay :D
[02:51] <Guest55078> Well, my only issue is I can't get the WiFi to work.
[02:52] <fireshibby> o.o
[02:52] <fireshibby> what dell do you have?
[02:52] <Chanshark> daftykins:  im crazy confused
[02:52] <Guest55078> Dell insperon 1318
[02:52] <ubuntu-tester> djzn: a while ago i asked such question myself. I went so far that downloaded a sources, read it and found no traces of such options or code paths.  seems that it even never been designed! wrote my frustration to dev maillist. still no answer
[02:52] <fireshibby> hmm.. Mine's an Inspiron 1520, do you have the wifi switch on the side?
[02:53] <Guest55078> It does, and its happily resting in the 'On' Position.
[02:53] <clfs> ifconfig -a
[02:53] <Guest55078> First things first, how do I change my nickname in IRC?
[02:54] <daftykins> Chanshark: it's time i let you fend for yourself, young grasshopper - go forth and compile!
[02:54] <djzn> ubuntu-tester: I see... well, i figure that if I had the dash on the bottom, I could make icons smaller, it would have much more icons... and it would be kinda more tolerable to see things in the horizontal view, since we have two eyes....
[02:54] <clfs> \/nick  yourname
[02:54]  * Chanshark gets stepped on
[02:54] <ubuntu-tester> Guest55078: ask it on #freenode
[02:54] <Thalen> There we go.
[02:56] <ubuntu-tester> djzn: try cairo-dock
[02:57] <WaY> hello
[02:57] <Thalen> Alright, now thats taken care of, I checked in terminal under " lshw -C network" and it detects that the wifi adapter is there.
[02:57] <hplc> odd, i get weird notes in my FW logs regarding port, its not a single port number but in format "80>800" any ideas what this means?
[02:57] <Thalen> Hey WaY
[02:57] <bentinata> WaY, hello
[02:58] <WaY> does anybody knows if there is a linux distribution for Intel Atom processors? like Raspbian for Raspberry?
[02:58] <bentinata> Thalen, hey thats rhyme
[02:58] <Thalen> Huh?
[02:58] <fireshibby> Thalen sounds like an epic name for a story character.
[02:59]  * fireshibby steals it and gives credit in the little notes in the beginning
[02:59] <Thalen> I thought I was being clever back when I was 13,
[02:59] <Thalen> But I've read like 3 fantasy novels that use it since then, Alas.
[02:59] <Thalen> Correction: Alas, poor Thalen.
[02:59] <ubuntu-tester> WaY: Meego?
[02:59] <fireshibby> oh .-. darn. Cuz i'm after a name for a story im writing and have writers block xD
[03:00] <ubuntu-tester> hplc: please pastebin exact messages
[03:00] <Thalen> Feel free to use it lol.
[03:00] <WaY> mmm, but meego is almost dead, isn't it?
[03:00] <fireshibby> :D
[03:00] <fireshibby> in the notes I'll say "Credit to Thalen, for letting me use his name" xD
[03:01] <bentinata> WaY, my friend has acer aspire, and He install BT5
[03:01] <Thalen> And when I get to finishing my magnus opus, I'll credit to however helps me with my WiFi lol
[03:01] <ubuntu-tester> WaY: not sure, maybe
[03:01] <fireshibby> so in a few years, if you ever stumble across a book called The Great War, your name will be in it :p
[03:01] <Thalen> Excellent.
[03:02] <WaY> bts bentinata? whats that?
[03:02] <Thalen> And since my real name isn't bob or something common whenever I stumble across it in a book or something I'm like "LOOOOOK!"
[03:02] <fireshibby> Gah I have the whole series planned out in my mind too. 6 books, 3 of them are short stories that tie in perfectly to main books .-.
[03:02] <bentinata> not bts, bt5
[03:02] <bentinata> backtrack 5
[03:03] <bentinata> WaY, every linux is good for every processor
[03:03] <fireshibby> Linux is fantastic for anything.
[03:03] <Thalen> I'm considering badgering Bioware for a chance to write a video game lol
[03:03] <Thalen> I'm enjoying the hell out of Ubuntu so far on my 5 year old laptop.
[03:03] <fireshibby> Do it xP DUDE! PM me, i had a fantastic idea xD
[03:03] <Thalen> So smooth!
[03:03] <Ben64> hey, take offtopic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic  --- leave this channel for ubuntu support only
[03:03] <Thalen> Sorry! >.>
[03:03] <fireshibby> thats why i said pm .-.
[03:04] <hplc> ubuntu-tester, i cant, the second i allow webtraffic out i get more and more and more of these sucessfull connects, it almost got my FW down
[03:04] <Thalen> I do need help however.
[03:04] <Ben64> not just you guys, lots of ot going on right now
[03:04] <WaY> the problem I think is that the nvidia drivers doesn't works as flawless as in windows. I've got an nvidia ion 2
[03:04] <ubuntu-tester> ok paste one line here
[03:05] <WaY> thats why I was looking for a specific linux distribution
[03:05] <bentinata> WaY, oh, vga problem
[03:05] <bentinata> anyone can help?
[03:05] <WaY> I've got the official drivers, but sometimes it doesn't reproduce 1080p smooth
[03:06] <Ben64> bentinata: whats up?
[03:06] <WaY> and the cpu is idle all time
[03:06] <Chanshark> the sky!
[03:06] <Chanshark> oh i have been waiting to say that joke all day Ben64
[03:06] <ubuntu-tester> WaY: i don't think you can solve drivers' problems by changing distros
[03:06] <Ben64> Chanshark: its not wanted in this channel
[03:07] <WaY> I was thinking on installing windows 7, because of the drivers
[03:07] <bentinata> Ben64, WaY has problem setting-up nvidia ion 2 driver
[03:07] <bentinata>  
[03:07] <Chanshark> wait ben are you good with setting up drivers?
[03:07] <hplc> ubuntu-tester, i cant write the IPs here on irc, but it goes: [ip number] port 80>800
[03:07] <Ben64> i'm good at everything
[03:07] <Chanshark> ok i really need help installing my wifi drivers
[03:08] <Chanshark> i have spent 3 days trying to install them
[03:08] <WaY> I've got setup the driver and I'm using the vdpau lib, so the CPU is not working hard in decode the film
[03:08] <Chanshark> its a netgear n600 wireless dual band usb adapter WNDA3100v2
[03:08] <WaY> but sometimes I see a little jump between scenes
[03:08] <Ben64> WaY: there probably isn't much to be done with that, that chip is very limited
[03:09] <WaY> but ion2 it is supposed to works fine with 1080p
[03:09] <Guest34539> i had install wine and it doesnt work to run windows programs
[03:09] <WaY> and when my samsung tv decodes via Plex the same movie, it do it perfectly
[03:09] <Chanshark> ben please i beg of you i have spent the past 35 hours trying to get it to work :(
[03:09] <Ben64> !appdb | Guest34539
[03:10] <Ben64> WaY: you can't compare a netbook to a tv : /
[03:10] <Guest34539> do i have to download?
[03:10] <ubuntu-tester> WaY: supposed under Windows i think. :)
[03:10] <Ben64> Chanshark: you should.... get a better card
[03:10] <WaY> yeah, thats whay I was thinking, moving to windows :(
[03:10] <Chanshark> its a usb adapter and it costed 60$ :(
[03:11] <Ben64> Chanshark: ouch. use monoprice next time
[03:11] <ubuntu-tester> hplc: where do you see these logs and what FW is it?
[03:11] <Chanshark> whats monorpice
[03:11] <Ben64> website for cheap components/cables
[03:12] <Chanshark> better then newegg?
[03:12] <escott> !broadcom | Chanshark
[03:12] <WaY> I've got all my external HD in ext3, I'm going to have a problem with windows
[03:12] <Ben64> Chanshark: www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=8072
[03:12] <dr_willis> there are ext3 tools for windows..
[03:13] <hplc> ubuntu-tester, IPfire distro and it shows up in the "connections" window
[03:14] <Chanshark> ben64 i think my thing is faster
[03:15] <Chanshark> im not realy sure how to tell
[03:15] <ubuntu-tester> hplc: well it's ubuntu channel not IPFire
[03:15] <Chanshark> or would it be better to just run a eithernet cabble
[03:15] <Ben64> ethernet is always better
[03:15] <ubuntu-tester> hplc: Wiki tells it's not even Debian-based
[03:15] <Chanshark> ok tomorrow i'll go buy a 400 ft cabble and run it though the wall
[03:16] <fireshibby> I like eternet, but for me, i prefer wireless at the rate I move around in my house.
[03:16] <Chanshark> well i cant move my desktop around willy nilly
[03:16] <dr_willis> i run cable throgh the heat ducts
[03:16] <Ben64> Chanshark: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=8076
[03:16] <Chanshark> meh il just run it though my wall
[03:16] <Ben64> 300mbit adapter with linux support
[03:16] <_SKiTZO> im on 12.04 and I have trouble with frequent small lockups. I am trying to diagnose the cause of the problem. I have reinstalled fresh and the exact same problem occurred
[03:16] <fireshibby> Oh, I had a question about a problem i encounter
[03:17] <Ben64> Chanshark: where are you getting a 400ft ethernet
[03:17] <ubuntu-tester> hplc: join #ipfire andask there
[03:17] <fireshibby> I'm currently on 11.10, which Is pretty fantastic to me, but when I try to update to 12.04 LTS, it freezes during the install and then everything crashes and I have to reinstall 11.10. Any ideas?
[03:17] <Chanshark> home depot
[03:17] <_SKiTZO> most of the time it runs smooth, but when i perform certain actions like open a file save dialogue in certain apps it locks up
[03:17] <hplc> ubuntu-tester, on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop it shows up in ntop as "anomalies", and i tried in that chan all day
[03:17] <_SKiTZO> for a short time
[03:17] <_SKiTZO> really annoying.
[03:17] <_SKiTZO> any hints?
[03:18] <FloodBot1> _SKiTZO: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <escott> fireshibby, don't upgrade do a direct install
[03:18] <fireshibby> .-. ok. think that will help sort it all out? because I want to be on the latest but this is the first time i've ever encountered a problem with upgrading
[03:18] <escott> fireshibby, you should also verify that your graphics drivers are working and see if you need to mess around with nomodeset
[03:19] <Ben64> escott: usually updates work fine
[03:19] <ubuntu-tester> _SKiTZO: does hdd flash in that moments?
[03:19] <fireshibby> My graphics drivers run fantastically, i have a Dell Inspiron 1520 with an nVidia graphcs driver and i've had no problems
[03:19] <_SKiTZO> ubuntu-tester: yes the hd light often is very active
[03:19] <escott> fireshibby, you will probably need nomodeset since it is nvidia
[03:20] <fireshibby> ok. Think it would run fine then afterwards?
[03:20] <diverdude> Is there an editor that can access a file via ftp, and edit it and save it directly to the ftp location again?
[03:20] <_SKiTZO> i have tested hd performance with a dd to and from dev zero/null and it shows 200mb/sec read and 150 mb/s write
[03:21] <escott> _SKiTZO, what filesystem are you using
[03:21] <ubuntu-tester> _SKiTZO: pastebin your top, ideally at that moment or right after
[03:21] <Serot0ne> kyo
[03:21] <Serot0ne> Test
[03:21] <Serot0ne> Test
[03:21] <Serot0ne> TEst.
[03:21] <jrib> diverdude: I'm sure there are lots of options.  I know vim can.  You could also probably mount the ftp somewhere and use any editor you want
[03:21] <_SKiTZO> ubuntu-tester: ext4 on md (raid0)
[03:22] <_SKiTZO> ubuntu-tester: will a ps aux do?
[03:22] <ubuntu-tester> _SKiTZO: maybe your system thrashes on memory
[03:22] <escott> _SKiTZO, perhaps fsync is having to wait on both disks to finish their writes
[03:22] <_SKiTZO> yes. memory usage is not extensive
[03:22] <_SKiTZO> and no swap is active
[03:22] <ubuntu-tester> _SKiTZO: no, need to see memory usage
[03:23] <_SKiTZO> ok
[03:23] <_SKiTZO> ill see if i can provoke it
[03:24] <sabgenton> ubuntu-tester: hey (again) what do you think of nobody:nogroup   vs me:me for general shares?
[03:24] <ubuntu-tester> what drives in raid? same model/size?
[03:25] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: think it's bad idea
[03:25] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: create another user if you want
[03:25] <sabgenton> well the files I'm shareing are for everyone thats all
[03:26] <sabgenton> ah ok fair enough
[03:26] <escott> sabgenton, nobody:users might make more sense
[03:26] <sabgenton> ubuntu-tester: what is a good situation to use nobody  or nogroup out of interest?
[03:27] <sabgenton> or is it generally seen as a bad idea theses days
[03:27] <escott> sabgenton, usually applications set their effective uid to nobody/nogroup to deny themselves access to the filesystem
[03:27] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: nobody meant to have no rights and no property on the system at all, including files
[03:28] <sabgenton> escott: but then if you break into nobody you control those apps!
[03:28] <escott> sabgenton, so
[03:28] <ubuntu-tester> sabgenton: some daemons downgrade its privileges to nobody to minimize security risks
[03:29] <limpc> so, i installed drivers for my ethernet's r8168 chipset manually. however i still can't get internet :(
[03:30] <limpc> lspci shows ethernet, the light is on on the ethernet jack (active connection), lsmod shows the r8168 loaded
[03:30] <limpc> i don't know wtf more to do
[03:30] <kepler> ifconfig see it?
[03:30] <daftykins> ifconfig -a got an interface?
[03:30] <bazhang> r8168-dkms   limpc this? from the repos?
[03:31] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: or look for it in network manager
[03:31] <limpc> yes ifconfig sees it
[03:31] <daftykins> limpc: is the interface up? 'sudo dhclient eth0' if it's eth0
[03:31] <limpc> bazhang, no i downloaded it direct from realtek and used their autorun.sh to install (which was successful)
[03:32] <daftykins> or statically address
[03:32] <limpc> dhcp refused to fetch an address, so i defined a static one with the correct gateway (i had this on a static ip before anyway)
[03:32] <daftykins> ping success?
[03:32] <limpc> no
[03:32] <limpc> i can't ping 192.168.1.1
[03:32] <daftykins> =/
[03:32] <limpc> i don't get it.
[03:33] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: pastebin ifconfig, route -n
[03:33] <limpc> um ..
[03:34] <limpc> pate bin requires internet :P
[03:34] <limpc> er pastebin. stupid autocorrection
[03:34] <savagecroc> I'm running a production webserver which will be running nginx/ruby/postgres.  How often should i run apt-get update, what's the chances of it breaking stuff when i do? what's a good way of testing and making sure updates work?
[03:34] <ubuntu-tester> oh yes, IRC doesn't, how could I forget!
[03:34] <limpc> I'm on another computer here.
[03:35] <escott> savagecroc, as often as you have time to fix it if it does or as often as you are willing to have downtime if you cant
[03:35] <Sna4x8> I have the most annoying bug.  On one of my computers (happens to be my main development machine) vim doesn't refresh.  SSHing and using vim on the same machine works fine though.  Is that a video card issue most likely?
[03:35] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: flash drive?
[03:35] <limpc> no, usb doesn't work either
[03:36] <limpc> apparently theres an issue with the ubuntu stock kernel and GA-990FXA mobos
[03:36] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: how can you be sure
[03:36] <limpc> because I've been here for hours and people have helped figure out the issue(s) :P
[03:37] <limpc> usb only works for usb 3.0, the 2.0 ports are not working.  I have mouse/kbd on the 2 usb 3.0 ports provided by the mobo
[03:37] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: ok then i give up
[03:38] <limpc> you just want a paste bin to confirm that eth1 has an ip / route / net mask configured yes?
[03:38] <limpc> they are there and configured. I verified that
[03:38] <escott> limpc, have you tried setting it up as a patch cable to another machine running wireshark
[03:38] <leidner> nite nite
[03:39] <savagecroc> escott: ok.. so pretty much i have to expect that it might break stuff and test
[03:39] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: yes, ok. if you suspect drivers then take escott's advice
[03:40] <savagecroc> escott: for security purposes thought.. what's ok.. once a month, once every 6 months?
[03:40] <escott> savagecroc, depends on what "production" means. if your production machine goes does do you get fired? do people die? would either of those outcomes bother you?
[03:40] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: and watch dmesg in the process
[03:40] <ubuntu-tester> limpc: maybe tcpdump will do instead of wireshark
[03:41] <escott> savagecroc, for security purposes i guess the question is what is on those machines and what happens if you get hacked? does the company lose billions of dollars? do terrorists get nuclear weapons? would either of those outcomes bother you?
[03:41] <savagecroc> escott: yeah i can work out times of day when people are using most of the system.. or failing that i can just clone the entire vm and test separatly and then change them over
[03:41] <escott> savagecroc, its entirely too vague to answer the question in any meaningful sense
[03:42] <escott> savagecroc, i do updates on my desktop 2-3 times a week. maybe once every two months i will have a minor issue.
[03:42] <ubuntu-tester> savagecroc: testing on separate machine/virtual is a good way. also prod servers are usually reserved
[03:42] <savagecroc> i'm trying to get some guage at how often good sysadmins update their systems.  i'm running a webapp with 10,000 users but with no particular strategic value for most people (although maybe people would want to steal our code)
[03:43] <savagecroc> ubuntu-tester: i could move the database onto a separate server, then that way i can have two machines connecting to the same DB
[03:44] <savagecroc> ubuntu-tester: then i can just setup my local hostfile to connect to the new machine and make updates and take the other one out of service.. but then i'd also need to setup some sort a load balancer :/
[03:44] <savagecroc> escott: yeah the thing with desktops though, is they run a lot more stuff than most servers
[03:47] <ubuntu-tester> savagecroc: really good sysadmins make checklist with their critical apps (including kernel) and watch their security bulletins daily. and leave all other components just working, no updates. but 10k users case is probably not THAT serious
[03:50] <Guest34539> how to install or download the winehq?
[03:50] <Basil1x> 12.10-64bit Toshiba l755-s5167.  Sound says 'Dummy Output'.  Until late Dec. I have had no issues whatsoever.  Everything has worked flawlessly for over a year.  In attempting to fix this, my audio applet in the bar has disappeared.  I would like it back, and would like sound to work.
[03:50] <daftykins> Guest34539: go to #winehq
[03:52] <Guest34539> i am at this website. appdb.winehq.org  what do i have to do here/
[03:52] <bazhang> Guest34539, search with it
[03:53] <Toph2> Guest34539,,, at the top of that site, click WineHQ tab and go from there
[03:53] <ubuntu-tester> savagecroc: the problem with your approach above is that booting and wgetting main page successfully does not show problems which real traffic and real load show. so having a balancer and redirecting traffic partially for testing is good idea
[03:54] <Guest34539> i so and now it said Welcome i dont know where to go?
[03:55] <bazhang> Guest34539, use it to search if your windows app works with Wine on Ubuntu
[03:55] <savagecroc> ubuntu-tester: yeah.. we are thinking for our future project.. we want to do something like.. upgrade server on our testing cluster, test that after it passes, add one updated server to the main cluster.  Stick all the beta-tester users on it.. if there is a single error immediately take it offline and revert them back to older nodes, rinse, repeat.  When there are no errors, add a few more users.. continue until it works and then grad
[03:55] <savagecroc> ually phase out the old nodes
[03:55] <bazhang> Guest34539, IT's a Search Engine.   Use it to Search.
[03:56] <Toph2> Guest34539,,, why not download and install from Ubuntu Software Center?
[03:57] <dcherniv> savagecroc, wait what?
[03:57] <dcherniv> savagecroc, on a load balancer?
[03:57] <savagecroc> dcherniv: nah nah, for a webserver behind the load-balancer
[03:57] <ubuntu-tester> Guest34539 actually you better google 'wine yourprogram problems'
[03:57] <Guest34539> also i go where it ubuntu Software Center but i dont know which one to install because it many to choose from?
[03:57] <savagecroc> load-balancer -> webservers (multiple) -> databases-servers(multiple)
[03:58] <ubuntu-tester> savagecroc: that's even better
[03:58] <dcherniv> savagecroc, what we do is, 1 storage array for all users that is mounted on the webservers over NFS
[03:58] <savagecroc> dcherniv: right, and the storage array runs on another machine?
[03:58] <dcherniv> savagecroc, that you wont have to migrate anyone anywhere, all servers share common storage
[03:58] <dcherniv> savagecroc, yes
[03:59] <ubuntu-tester> Guest34539 what's program?
[03:59] <savagecroc> we have very few user files.. nearly everything is in the postgres database
[03:59] <Guest34539> wine, Q4wine,  wine1.2 wine1.3 and more
[03:59] <dcherniv> savagecroc, if you plan for the future a separate storage server will make things easier in the long run
[04:00] <ubuntu-tester> dcherniv: ...and single bug can corrupt data for all servers at once
[04:00] <bazhang> Guest34539, what version of ubuntu are you using
[04:00] <savagecroc> i assume for storage of the database.. you would just leave the db storage on the same machine as thats running the database.. i.e. no point separting db storage and the db server
[04:00] <dcherniv> ubuntu-tester, yes but they are on the load balancer anyhow,
[04:00] <Guest34539> edubuntu 12.10
[04:00] <savagecroc> dcherniv: yeah.. you mean even if it's tiny image
[04:00] <ubuntu-tester> Guest34539 what program do you want to run under Wine?
[04:00] <savagecroc> i.e. some ubuntu box with 256mb of ram
[04:00] <bazhang> Guest34539, and what windows app do you want to use
[04:00] <dcherniv> ubuntu-tester, a single bug where?
[04:00] <Guest34539> like winamp and Divx
[04:01] <ubuntu-tester> dcherniv: in app
[04:01] <dcherniv> savagecroc, if its a tiny image why use a load balancer?
[04:01] <bazhang> Guest34539, use audacious and mplayer
[04:01] <dr_willis> divx what exactly?
[04:01] <savagecroc> dcherniv: what IP do the users connect to?
[04:01] <dcherniv> ubuntu-tester, you do snapshots of the storage server
[04:01] <sk1special> so..anyone know how i install 12.10 on windows 8 while keeping the windows boot menu?
[04:01] <bazhang> Guest34539, there is zero reason to use those with wine as Ubuntu provides Better native software apps
[04:02] <savagecroc> so lets say you have https://mybigwebapp.com it has to then decide which webserver to connnect which user too
[04:02] <Guest34539> divx is where you can play movies online like Www.veehd.com and www.freefulmovies.net
[04:02] <dcherniv> savagecroc, right
[04:02] <savagecroc> also i want to split them up so.. like these 1000 users goto this machine, these 1000 users goto that
[04:02] <dcherniv> savagecroc, why do you want that?
[04:02] <savagecroc> that way we don't have to do anything awkward like manage clustered databases
[04:03] <dcherniv> savagecroc, you will have to do clustered databases anyway
[04:03] <ubuntu-tester> sk1special: save MBR and restore afterwards?
[04:03] <dr_willis> Guest34539:  divx is  the mpeg4 codec with some extensions.
[04:03] <dcherniv> savagecroc, otherwise how you gonna keep the databases consistent across the servers?
[04:03] <savagecroc> two reasons, location.. our users are in totally different locations (i.e. china / australia), second easy scalability
[04:03] <Guest34539> yeah
[04:03] <savagecroc> dcherniv: by using scripts to replicate the data across multiple servers
[04:03] <dr_willis> so most any player that can play mpeg4 can play divx
[04:03] <dcherniv> savagecroc, not a good idea
[04:04] <bazhang> Guest34539, so audacious and mplayer. No need for Wine
[04:04] <savagecroc> dcherniv: also that means you can replicate between differnt versions of the software.. i.e. imagine you have node A running version 56   and node B running version 57.. you can copy all the users to node B and change the datastructure of their data.. and then they can connect to either
[04:04] <sk1special> ubuntu-tester, there is a way to do it without doing that..i have half of it saved in a word file..but i can not find the original link
[04:04] <Guest34539> so i should get from Ubuntu Software Center?
[04:04] <bazhang> yes
[04:04] <dr_willis> veehd seems to be using shockwave-flash as the plugin to watch movies
[04:05] <dcherniv> savagecroc, how will you know which databases has the most relevant information
[04:05] <savagecroc> dcherniv: i can't see the database cluster working... i think it would be better to have separate database machines
[04:05] <ubuntu-tester> Guest34539 iv you want to encode video use Avidemux
[04:05] <dcherniv> savagecroc, when in geographically different areas i dont see how the loadbalancer will work either?
[04:05] <dr_willis> and the freefulmovies.net is just a spammy search site taht links to other sites..
[04:06] <Toph2> anything in linux that can display the Folio Views format?
[04:06] <ubuntu-tester> MBR in a Word file? o_O
[04:06] <savagecroc> dcherniv: for example lets say you are user 1234.. we are currently storing your info on server-25(ver 55) server-26 (ver 55) and server-28(ver 56)
[04:06] <savagecroc> we let you connect to any of those machines
[04:06] <dcherniv> savagecroc, ok
[04:06] <savagecroc> if the data is 3 mins out of date.. the app will have to cope
[04:06] <savagecroc> 99.9% of the time.. you should always connect to the same machine though
[04:07] <sk1special> ubuntu-tester, no i have half the instructions on how to do it saved in a word file ( how to do it without having to get rid if the mbr ) but i dont have the other half and cant find the original link online i got them from
[04:07] <Guest34539> OKAY THANK YOU SO MUCH I WILL TRIES DOES PROGRAM AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL
[04:07] <dcherniv> savagecroc, there's no way to ensure that, users wont do that 99.9% of time
[04:07] <bazhang> no caps Guest34539
[04:07] <Guest34539> sorry
[04:07] <savagecroc> dcherniv: load balancer should help.. lets say you are 1234 and you are in china.. we can go.. right you are allocated to our mainland china server
[04:07] <ubuntu-tester> savagecroc, dcherniv: it's a bit offtopic here
[04:07] <SunMoonStar1> Have to ask here because the Lubuntu chan is looking dead. I'm on Lubuntu and the lxpanel system tray icons are not right adjusting anymore. Using spacer applet and checking 'stretch' just totally hides any applet after it (they dissapear).
[04:07] <rcmaehl> I need confirmation that 2908 petabytes per second is not possible with current technology and my apt-get just went glitchy http://imgur.com/MyNdk
[04:07] <savagecroc> dcherniv: they don't see this.. it should all look like a single address to them
[04:08] <dcherniv> savagecroc, what will happen is a user will make his changes on server-25, 26 and 28 at the same time and then when software will attempt to cope they will complain that their changes are gone
[04:08] <rcmaehl> Petabytes per second isn't possible right? RIGHT!?
[04:08] <dr_willis> rcmaehl:  ask in #hardware
[04:08] <bazhang> savagecroc, dcherniv please take this to the appropriate channel, like ##networking or the like
[04:08] <dcherniv> savagecroc, not possible if one of the servers runs different version software
[04:08] <rcmaehl> I mean from a ubuntu repo
[04:08] <dcherniv> my bad
[04:08] <rcmaehl> dr_willis: I mean from a ubuntu repo
[04:08] <dcherniv> out to work
[04:09] <rcmaehl> dr_willis: apt-get reported 2908 PB/s
[04:09] <sk1special> http://pastebin.com/7af3s8uc
[04:09] <ubuntu-tester> rcmaehl: confirmed
[04:09] <dr_willis> rcmaehl:  sounds like a network glitch
[04:09] <rcmaehl> okay good
[04:09] <dr_willis> or your screen is dirty
[04:09] <sk1special> a couple of the steps..minus some graphics. but i cant find any guide similar again.
[04:09] <rcmaehl> dr_willis: http://imgur.com/MyNdk
[04:09] <dr_willis> and you miss read B/s
[04:09] <savagecroc> bazhang: nah networking is all about how am i setting up my border routers, and what protocol should i use for this.. there really isin't a cluster help channel
[04:09] <dr_willis> rcmaehl:  does it really matter...
[04:10] <rcmaehl> Well I'm surprised apt-get can measure in PB/s
[04:10] <bazhang> savagecroc, well here is not really topical for that
[04:10] <rcmaehl> I mean why >.>
[04:10] <nbs> Anyone willing to help someone with installation problems alongside Win8? :(
[04:10] <savagecroc> bazhang: i'm building the whole lot with ubuntu :)
[04:10] <SunMoonStar1> I've been trying to figure out this xpanel issue for 3 hours I should probably stop caring that the icons are not right adjusting
[04:10] <bazhang> nbs ask the channel
[04:11] <dr_willis> SunMoonStar1:  or totally reset the panel and see if that helps
[04:11] <bazhang> SunMoonStar1, why not reset them
[04:12] <SunMoonStar1> reset? not sure what you mean. I did try to reinstall xpanel and to kill it and reload it and those didn't help
[04:12] <nbs> Well I followed a guide on a forum thread about installing it.  And I actually used Xubuntu, but that shouldn't really make a difference in installation, would it? :S
[04:12] <SunMoonStar1> I also tried restart
[04:12] <SunMoonStar1> and I tried to replace the config file with the default config file
[04:12] <nbs> Anyways it seemed to install just fine, but only Windows 8 boots.  There's no option for Ubuntu
[04:12] <nbs> no grub appears or anything
[04:12] <dr_willis> SunMoonStar1:  tip #1 - removeing packages via apt/package manager tools do NOT touch setting files in the users home directory
[04:13] <dr_willis> SunMoonStar1:  you can find whatever config files are being in your home, and delete/rename them to reset lxde back to defaults
[04:13] <c2tarun> nbs, how did you install?
[04:13] <nbs> DVD
[04:13] <nbs> I disabled secure boot
[04:13] <c2tarun> nbs, no, you said you followed some guide, which one.
[04:13] <SunMoonStar1> dr_willis: I'll try to rename stuff
[04:13] <nbs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
[04:13] <nbs> The first reply
[04:13] <ogist> someone here told me to get xubuntu and it's slow still
[04:14] <SunMoonStar1> ogist: if it's slow try lubuntu it's for older comps
[04:14] <ogist> lubuntu software center doesnt even haven stars
[04:14] <ubuntu-tester> rcmaehl: it's because file size was too small and downloaded very fast so apt didn't have enough time to correctly estimate speed
[04:14] <dr_willis> ogist:  lubuntu would be the lightest desktop with the feature set most people need
[04:14] <ogist> how do i make xubuntu faster
[04:15] <dr_willis> ogist:  i doubt if theres much you can do to it
[04:15] <ogist> i dont think the creators of linux and ubuntu understand much about what a shortcut on a desktop is
[04:15] <nbs> Also what's strange is that it didn't ask me anything about partitioning during installation.  I previously created space for it, and I guess it just assumed that was for it?
[04:15] <ogist> what was so hard for them to make a shortcut to a program easy
[04:16] <dr_willis> ogist:  or you are thinking in terms of windows .lnk files instead of linux filesystem links. and .desktop launchers
[04:16] <ogist> yeah
[04:16] <ogist> it's not as easy
[04:16] <ogist> i should be able to create a shortcut
[04:16] <dr_willis> with lxde i thought you just drag.dropped from the menu to the desktop
[04:16] <dr_willis> the ides of items on the desktop is slowly getting phased out
[04:17] <ogist> im using ubuntu on a 3.4 ghz computer that has quad-cores
[04:17] <ogist> i have 8 gigabytes of ram
[04:17] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: right-click and select Make Link is not easy?
[04:17] <ogist> oh
[04:17] <bazhang> !enter | ogist
[04:17] <ogist> yeah ubuntu-tester
[04:17] <dr_willis> ogist:  if xubuntu is slow on that.. you need to check your video card drivers
[04:17] <ogist> but it didnt work
[04:17] <ogist> i double clicked this new shortcut and it just opened and closed
[04:18] <bazhang> ogist, please...with the enter key
[04:18] <ogist> dr_willis: yeah and mess up my computer
[04:18] <dr_willis> ogist:  whatever then,. good luck
[04:18] <ogist> video drivers for what
[04:18] <ogist> a non vide-driver related problem
[04:19] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: *that* is the problem, sate it and don't troll here :)
[04:19] <dr_willis> your video card. If you have a quad core  3+ghz system.. it shold be able to handle any desktop out there.  unless theres issues with the video card
[04:19] <ogist> im not having problems on my quad-core
[04:19] <dr_willis> if xubuntu is slow.. you seem to be
[04:19] <ogist> i have a dell inspiron
[04:19] <ogist> i have more than one computer
[04:19] <bazhang> ogist, you are having problems with over use of the enter key.
[04:20] <ogist> bazhang: it's ok
[04:20] <bazhang> ogist, stop it
[04:20] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: by the way .lnk files on Win can break as well and can even make secyrity holes
[04:21] <ogist> ubuntu-tester: i have one file i want to open from my desktop
[04:22] <machicola> how do I, via command line, put a script after a particular process at bootup
[04:22] <SunMoonStar1> so I removed ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/config and ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel and restarted and the problem remains
[04:22] <clfs> .bashrc
[04:23] <machicola> clfs, in response to me?
[04:23] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: ok have you made it as i said?
[04:23] <clfs> yes.:)
[04:23] <clfs> : )
[04:23] <dr_willis> machicola:  what 'process'   the upsttart system is designed to run in parallel as much as possible.  it uses  a trigger system that can trigger a second event/service after a speficic one loads
[04:23] <ogist> ubuntu-tester: yeah and it just opens and closes within about 500 ms
[04:23] <c2tarun> ogist, :P why do you want to make Xubuntu even faster? Isn't it fast enough?
[04:24] <ogist> c2tarun: are you serious or are you a troll?
[04:24] <ubuntu-tester> open it's properties, what's in 'Location:'?
[04:24] <c2tarun> ogist, I am too small for a troll :) lets stick with I am serious
[04:24] <IdleOne> Pay attention people, ogist is having a problem with a shortcut, he said nothing about making xfce faster.
[04:24] <machicola> the process would be after gnome desktop and another program , xbindkeys, have already started... so not once the desktop GUI has appeared but a bit later
[04:24] <ubuntu-tester> open what's in 'Link target:'?
[04:24] <ogist> keep in mind i have two computers
[04:25] <machicola> clfs, that doesn't seem to give any control though as to precisely when the script will run does it?
[04:25] <SunMoonStar1> dr_willis: dono if you saw that ^. I removed the config and panel files and restarted but it didn't help
[04:25] <c2tarun> IdleOne, actually he said, but never mind
[04:25] <ogist> well
[04:25] <dr_willis> machicola:  use the .config/autostart direcory. make a script.. have it sleep for about 30 seconds so gnome gets loaded then runs your commands
[04:25] <machicola> doesn't the .bashrc just execute at a specific time?
[04:25] <ogist> neither problem was addressed
[04:25] <ogist> so it doesnt really matter
[04:25] <dr_willis> machicola:  .bashrc would not be where to do this at
[04:26] <machicola> haha, dr_willis it's funny you mentioned that... because I did exactly that but with .xsession
[04:26] <machicola> which i believe, for practical purposes, would be akin to .config/autostart
[04:26] <machicola> but it's not working out for some reason
[04:26] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: neitrer problem was clearly stated, in the first place
[04:26] <dr_willis> using .xsession would take total control of your X session.. you need to be sure to load everything you need
[04:26] <dr_willis> machicola:  the autostart directory is used by several differnt desktops so is more universial
[04:26] <ogist> ubuntu-tester, you lack reading comprehension
[04:26] <machicola> ooops, sorry dr_willis, .xsessionrc
[04:27] <praxis> hello
[04:27] <dr_willis> machicola:  cant say ive ever seen a  .xsessionrc
[04:27] <machicola> first i tried xsession, realized what you just said, then did .xsessionrc
[04:27] <bazhang> ogist, thats enough.
[04:27] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: forget, what's in link properties
[04:27] <machicola> it does work through .xsessionrc, ok... maybe i'll try .config/autostart, thanks
[04:27] <ogist> the file is in link properties
[04:27] <bazhang> !attitude | ogist
[04:28] <praxis> anyone know where i can get the torchwood interface
[04:28] <ogist> alright then
[04:28] <ogist> no need to get mad
[04:28] <dr_willis> praxis:  you mean 'theme' or what exactly?
[04:28] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: check link target points to your file exactly
[04:28] <praxis> yes theme
[04:28] <ogist> it does ubuntu-tester
[04:29] <ogist> it just opens and closes
[04:29] <dr_willis> praxis:  theres numerous gnome theme sites out there to search through
[04:29] <bazhang> praxis, at one of the ubuntu theme sites, like gnome-look
[04:29] <ubuntu-tester> ogist: what type of file
[04:30] <praxis> i can look there thank you
[04:30] <BullShark> where do i find instructions for installing steam on ubuntu?
[04:31] <ubuntu-tester> BullShark: on Steam website
[04:31] <clfs> en..
[04:31] <clfs> maybe you can try apt-cache search steam
[04:31] <clfs> bullshark.
[04:32] <bazhang> !steam
[04:32] <bazhang> BullShark, ^
[04:32] <IdleOne> BullShark: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[04:36] <SunMoonStar1> what's the word for it how in ubuntu unity and mac os the applications share a menu bar?
[04:37] <Ben64> in ubuntu i think its the "global menu"
[04:37] <SunMoonStar1> Ben64: do you know if it's possible to have that with lxde
[04:38] <Ben64> i don't know
[04:38] <SunMoonStar1> okay
[04:38] <IdleOne> SunMoonStar1: might try asking in #lubuntu
[04:40] <hectron> Hey all. I have a question. I have installed Eclipse in my desktop. I followed instructions in a tutorial. However, I see my Eclipse in my applications but I can only run it if I open a terminal and type in "eclipse"
[04:40] <hectron> Any thoughts on this?
[04:41] <bazhang> what tutorial hectron
[04:42] <hectron> I'm trying to find that tutorial. One sec, bazhang.
[04:42] <machicola> dr_willis, the same thing that happened to me earlier happened again... creating a symbolic link in ~/.config/autostart isn't starting the script up for some reason
[04:42] <hectron> I think it's something like this: https://javarunner.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/integrate-eclipse-juno-in-linux-ubuntu-12-10-with-command-line/
[04:42] <bazhang> hectron, did you install eclipse from outside the package management system?
[04:42] <machicola> because I did actually try it with ~/.config/autostart
[04:43] <fego> hectron: if you have downloaded the eclipse from the website, the zip contains a execuble called "eclipse"
[04:43] <machicola> am trying to read up to figure out what this could be
[04:43] <fego> you can double clik it open
[04:44] <clfs> I always double click eclipse to open it.
[04:46] <dr_willis> machicola:    its got a #!/bin/bash at the start? it is ececutable? try copying the script itsekf to the directory not a link
[04:48] <sk1special> is the guy still here who was trying to install on win 8>
[04:48] <sk1special> ?*
[04:48] <machicola> yeah #!/usr/bin/env bash , and I've tried with the executable
[04:48] <hectron> bazhang: I installed Eclipse from the .tar.gz. What was confusing I think was the desktop entry for Unity. I was not too familiar with it. I noticed something wrong with it, so I will restart my PC.
[04:49] <dr_willis> you got & at the end of the proper commands so it dosent hang the script? ;)
[04:49] <dr_willis> that about covers the common problems
[04:49] <machicola> the script is just this.... gnome-terminal &;firefox &;xchat &
[04:49] <cmj141> hactron : i just finished installing eclipse juno with ADT SDK
[04:50] <machicola> the script has been working in all the other config files... this one is unique in that sense
[04:50] <machicola> this one meaning, .config/autostart
[04:50] <machicola> method
[04:50] <dr_willis> machicola:  you could copy the .desktop files for those 3 apps into that autostart directory also
[04:50] <cmj141> hectron : you are trying to get a shortcut on your launcher is that it?
[04:50] <hectron> Yes.
[04:50] <machicola> where would the .desktop files be located?
[04:50] <cmj141> ive been searching for days on how to do it
[04:50] <dr_willis> use the locate command to find them
[04:51] <machicola> i'm not familiar with .desktop
[04:51] <cmj141> still nothing
[04:51] <dr_willis> locate xchat.desktop
[04:51] <machicola> so just firefox.desktop? etc. ok
[04:51] <dr_willis> should show where
[04:51] <cmj141> the only way to do it, is through a package manager
[04:51] <machicola> ok, thanks
[04:51] <hectron> I'm using Cinnamon.
[04:51] <hectron> And would like to have Eclipse launchable from the start-menu.
[04:51] <cmj141> if you want a clickable link then use synaptic or ubuntus package manager and download eclipse
[04:52] <cmj141> so remove your eclipse. and then reinstall it with your package manager
[04:52] <dr_willis> or make a custome .desktop file for your eclipse
[04:52] <bazhang> hectron, so go to cinnamon/mint support for taht
[04:52] <hectron> I see.
[04:53] <hectron> dr_willis: You're right. I had to customized the *.desktop file for Eclipse.
[04:53] <hectron> I had improper syntax.
[04:53] <hectron> I had mispelled Application (spelled it as Applicatoni)
[04:53] <hectron> dr_willis++
[04:59] <apm1> "apt-get purge removes all the scripts or adjustments auto-generated by the packages when they were being installed ?
[05:00] <apm1> i tried installing fprint for my thinkpad's fingerprint reader
[05:00] <apm1> but there was no fprintd package  so i just installed fprintpam and a fprint lib. package
[05:01] <apm1> but seeeing that they are useless without fprintd
[05:01] <dr_willis> where did those pacakges come from?
[05:01] <apm1> the ubuntu repo
[05:01] <dr_willis> !find fprintd
[05:01] <dr_willis> !info fprintd
[05:02] <clfs> apt-cache search  fprint?
[05:02] <apm1> i tried that
[05:02] <apm1> no fprintd shows up on my searches
[05:03] <dr_willis> package name seems to be fprintd
[05:03] <apm1> let me run another search them
[05:05] <apm1> wth , "apt-cache search fprintd" is only outputting a blank line on the tty ?
[05:07] <dr_willis> what release are you using?
[05:07] <apm1> 12.04.1
[05:07] <dr_willis> the bot was searcing 12.10
[05:08] <clfs> I find  'fprint-demo'  'libfprint-dev'  'libfprint0' 'libpam-fprint'  'xfprint4'
[05:08] <clfs> when i run 'apt-cache search fprint'
[05:08] <dr_willis> its in the universe repo on 12.10
[05:08] <clfs> my ubuntu is 10.04...
[05:09] <apm1> so they decided to drop it only for 12.04 ?
[05:09] <dr_willis> no  idea
[05:09] <dr_willis> or you dont have all the repos enabled
[05:09] <dr_willis> !info fprintd 12.04
[05:09] <dr_willis> !info fprintd  precise
[05:10] <apm1> oh crap
[05:10] <dr_willis> !info fprintd  oneiric
[05:10] <dr_willis> hmm
[05:10] <dr_willis> im on quantal
[05:10] <dr_willis> !info fprintd  raring
[05:11] <dr_willis> seems to be in quantal and raring
[05:11] <apm1> quantal is 12.10 ?
[05:11] <dr_willis> yep
[05:11] <dr_willis> i hate the cutesy names
[05:11] <apm1> i can not afford to run anything but a LTS
[05:12] <dr_willis> lts or non lts matters very little to me
[05:13] <dr_willis> for a home/perspnal use - i cant imagine why it matters much
[05:13] <apm1> well it matters when you hate having to reinstall or tweak for bugs
[05:14] <topper4125> my only reason for running LTS only is it cuts down on the amount of time I have to babysit the OS...
[05:14] <dr_willis> i reinstall every 6 mo anyway to keep up with the latest so i can do better support in here
[05:14] <dr_willis> im not sure why lts really matters in that respect topper4125
[05:15] <dr_willis> i dont run any services however. :) and only got 4 users.
[05:15] <dr_willis> small time home lan/user
[05:16] <BWMerlin> Nvidia has updated their official driver release, how long does it take for that then to appear in the ubuntu repositories?
[05:17] <genius> hello world
[05:17] <topper4125> dr_willis, only matters for my own laziness :) I used to run Arch for quite a while after I started getting serious with Linux... wanted to know more about how it all worked... but after spending too much time on bleeding edge, I'm looking for a more "set it and forget it" OS
[05:17] <machicola> dr_willis, the sleep thing doesn't work because it just pauses the whole init process altogether
[05:18] <machicola> but i'll probably just go with this
[05:18] <machicola> let it all start up at the same time, after spending a day on it lol
[05:18] <machicola> i'm sure there are apps and extras and stuff but just thought I'd like to do it within what is included
[05:19] <epitamizor> is there version of ubuntu with enlightenment?
[05:19] <machicola> because it seemed relatively simple anyways
[05:19] <dr_willis> epitamizor: e has ppa repos epitamizor. I belive
[05:20] <topper4125> !info e17
[05:20] <machicola> thanks for help
[05:20] <topper4125> install e17, log out, switch to enlightenment desktop, then enjoy some cake
[05:20] <dr_willis> isent e 18 out. :-D
[05:20] <topper4125> !e18
[05:21] <dr_willis> the cake is a lie
[05:21] <topper4125> I know e17 just got out of beta... beyond that.. not sure
[05:21] <topper4125> !info e18
[05:24] <dr_willis> every time i try  e. i find it lacking..
[05:24] <topper4125> me too... which is odd because I'm an avid XFCE user
[05:25] <gnomefreak> is there a way to diable the "paste" command in bash?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> s/diable/disable
[05:26] <epitamizor> upgrading from openbox to E, maybe xfce later
[05:26] <dniMretsaM> gnomefreak: what exactly would you want to do that for?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> epitamizor: E17?
[05:26] <dr_willis> never noticed a paste command
[05:27] <gnomefreak> dniMretsaM: im writing also of alias' and this one is in my way
[05:27] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: i didnt until like 2 days ago
[05:27] <dr_willis> aliass have higher priority
[05:27] <dr_willis> alias paste=echo foo
[05:28] <dr_willis> paste        should say foo
[05:28] <dr_willis> if i recall that chapter right
[05:28] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: gnomefreak@Development:~$ alias paste=echo foo
[05:28] <gnomefreak> bash: alias: foo: not found
[05:29] <dniMretsaM> echo foo should be in parentheses
[05:29] <dniMretsaM> er, quotation marks
[05:29] <dniMretsaM> geez I'm tired
[05:30] <gnomefreak> dniMretsaM: does nothing here no echo
[05:30] <dr_willis> im on my phone no idea where quotes are
[05:31] <dr_willis> the default ls alias is similer
[05:31] <dniMretsaM> gnomefreak: you mean that the echo command isn't found?
[05:32] <clfs> alias testecho="echo foo"
[05:32] <gnomefreak> dniMretsaM: no here is the output
[05:32] <clfs> this can work
[05:32] <topper4125> brb... this ICR app is less than appealing...
[05:32] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$ alias "paste=echo foo"
[05:32] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$
[05:32] <clfs> no gnomefreak
[05:32] <dniMretsaM> I just tested running this: alias paste="echo foo"
[05:32] <dniMretsaM> it worked just fine
[05:33] <topper4125> ahh mildly better
[05:33] <rushy> can someone tell me that why after i just installed 12.10 server that after the bios the screen just turns black and nothing happens
[05:33] <gnomefreak> oh at echo my fault
[05:34] <gnomefreak> still doesnt output anything
[05:34] <topper4125> rushy, what are you expecting it to do?
[05:34] <rushy> to show me a command line or something
[05:34] <rushy> i've never dealt with the server side
[05:35] <dr_willis> try the nomodeset option perhaps
[05:35] <gnomefreak> sounds like a reinstall, but it is 12:35 so im not thinking at full brain
[05:35] <dr_willis> could be the servers framebuffer or somthing is goofing you up
[05:35] <topper4125> oh... okay... so.. NOTHING at all. had someone here the other day and they were wondering where the GUI was on server...
[05:35] <gnomefreak> 12:35am
[05:36] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. try nomodeset first. ;)
[05:36] <rushy> topper4125, nope just black screen
[05:36] <dr_willis> and then the rescue/recovery mode..  and be sure to install ssh to make it easier to twiddle with
[05:36] <gnomefreak> there is no gui on server instal
[05:36] <topper4125> I would go with Grub glitch, or hardware fail.
[05:36] <rushy> could it be raid problem?
[05:37] <dr_willis> I dont know anything about raids.. so no idea on thst
[05:37] <dniMretsaM> rushy: well if the filesystem is messed up then it could be.
[05:37] <topper4125> gnomefreak, yup... we (me and 3 other people) spent about 10 mins trying to explain that to the person who was asking lol...
[05:37] <dniMretsaM> I'd start with dr_willis' suggestion, though
[05:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:37] <gnomefreak> im with dniMretsaM on that one
[05:37] <dr_willis> if you can see the grub menu at boot time. test out nomodeset, and the text option.
[05:37] <dniMretsaM> topper4125: that sounds fantastic...
[05:37] <rushy> i'm doing RAID5 but my install before got messed up at the bootloader install part, re-burned a new disk and "fixed" the install of it but thats it
[05:38] <dr_willis> change 'quiet splash' to be like 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset nofb verbose text'      i cant think of any others to toss in....
[05:38] <rushy> dr_willis: i don't see grub menu anywhere
[05:38] <dniMretsaM> hold Shift while booting if GRUB doesn't come up
[05:38] <topper4125> did you md5 the iso?
[05:38] <dr_willis> rushy:  press and hold shift perhaps it may show up . as it boots..
[05:38] <dr_willis> OR grub is totally borked.. and thats the reason why
[05:39] <dr_willis> i never use a server install so not sure how it sets up grub
[05:39] <rushy> ok shift made grub show up
[05:39] <dniMretsaM> dr_willis: the server installer is just di (which Ubiquity sits on top of), so it doesn't really do anything different than the desktop
[05:40] <rushy> 2 options now ubuntu and advanced options for ubuntu
[05:40] <topper4125> tbh, I don't either, this machine is a 12.04 Mini install w/ xfce
[05:40] <dr_willis> dniMretsaM:  but does it hide the gryb menu by default..
[05:40] <dr_willis> rushy:  so grub works. ;)
[05:41] <gnomefreak> dr_willis: they tried that but removed it so you can see it
[05:41] <dniMretsaM> misunderstood the question, but yes. if you had a server running with the GRUB screen coming up, the machine wouldn't boot
[05:41] <dniMretsaM> so it hides it by default
[05:41] <rushy> dr_willis: yes it does when i hold shift down, just wondering if i have a problem with it doing it all the time
[05:41] <dniMretsaM> rushy: boot the recovery option. it boots with NOMODESET
[05:41] <dr_willis> rushy:   so hit 'e' to edit the ubuntu line and try the nomodeset option.   if it works.. id set grub to not auto hide
[05:42] <dr_willis> recovery is handy also. ;)
[05:42] <gnomefreak> i dont recall how to do it but you can disable hiding grub so you can see it
[05:42] <dr_willis> its in /etc/default/grubb
[05:42] <dr_willis> its in /etc/default/grub
[05:42] <dr_willis> i find the whole auto-hideing  sort of a silly bending over backwards for the 'idiot-proofing' masses
[05:42]  * gnomefreak smoke and think :(
[05:43] <dniMretsaM> change GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT. that'll make the machine boot slower, though. annoying, imo
[05:43] <dr_willis> when a server has 10 month uptime.. a addational 3 sec to boot is trivial
[05:43] <rushy> hold up trying it right now if i can get back to it
[05:43] <dniMretsaM> dr_willis: true. I guess it depends on how long you set it to wait
[05:44] <dr_willis> my android phone takes longer to boot then my Ubuntu Desktop box. ;)
[05:44] <topper4125> !grub | one of these will talk about autohide, and delays
[05:44] <dr_willis> but i do have a SSD on the ubuntu box
[05:44]  * dniMretsaM is jealous of dr_willis
[05:44] <Theodore> hello
[05:45] <Theodore> i have a simple question
[05:45] <dniMretsaM> btw, dr_willis. do you hang out on #raspberrypi?
[05:45] <dniMretsaM> hi Theodore
[05:45] <Theodore> what is the best theme manager for the latest kde?
[05:45] <dr_willis> dniMretsaM:  im on my Pi right now. ;)
[05:45] <Theodore> hi dniMretsaM
[05:45] <dr_willis> dniMretsaM:  it boots faster then my Cellphone also.
[05:45] <topper4125> !best
[05:45] <dr_willis> is there even more then one theme manager for KDE?
[05:45] <dniMretsaM> Theodore: the stuff in System Settings is your best bet
[05:46] <Theodore> well I'm installing
[05:46] <Theodore> awn
[05:46] <Theodore> right now
[05:46] <dr_willis> awn is not a theme manager
[05:46] <dr_willis> it has its own themes.. however
[05:46] <Theodore> ok
[05:46] <Theodore> how come when i use system settings
[05:46] <Theodore> it does not show the styles downloaded
[05:47] <dniMretsaM> Theodore: have you installed them?
[05:47] <Theodore> yes
[05:47] <dr_willis> i dont use kde. so really cant help
[05:47] <dniMretsaM> dr_willis: I thought that I had seen you on there
[05:47] <dr_willis> dniMretsaM:  yep. I  hang there and here. ;)
[05:48] <dniMretsaM> Theodore: 1) are you looking in the right section (the theming is kind of split up) and 2) how did you install them?
[05:49] <Theodore> wow
[05:49] <dniMretsaM> dr_willis: I have like 13 channels running on my IRC backend. lol. all GNU/Linux or Wii related
[05:49] <Theodore> after i installed a couple theme managers
[05:49] <Theodore> desktop themes in system settings showed the theme now
[05:49] <Theodore> lol
[05:50] <topper4125> I'm only on 6 channels... feel like in irc noob now :(
[05:51] <dr_willis> topper4125:  im just in 2. :) from my android phone using znc to get into my RaspberryPi
[05:51] <dniMretsaM> topper4125: half of them haven't had a message all day (like a LoCo one)
[05:51] <dniMretsaM> but they occasionally have important stuff, so I just leave them open
[05:52] <topper4125> ahh... kinda like #ubuntu-bots lol
[05:56] <riqdiiz> No just curious ;-)
[05:56] <share> can you tell me what's the latest nvidia driver on ubuntu repository?
[05:56] <glassrose> how can ]. stop any user from remotely controlling my desktop,*?
[05:56] <share> is it 304 or 310
[05:57] <dniMretsaM> glassrose: disconnect from the Internet
[05:57] <glassrose> but ]. need to use net too
[05:57] <glassrose> ...
[05:57] <share> can you answer
[05:57] <share> i remember when this channel was useful
[05:57] <dniMretsaM> glassrose: I was joking....
[05:58] <dniMretsaM> glassrose: what software are they using to control the machine?
[05:58] <glassrose> hrmm,* ].........'ll take that seriously
[05:58] <topper4125> !info nvidia-current
[05:59] <glassrose> i guess rlogin/ssh
[05:59] <Name141> Does anyone know what I lose by running the 'open source' driver for the 4670 in 12.10 vs the 'closed , real AMD/ATi one' in the LTS? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12450490#post12450490
[05:59] <Name141> I would assume a little bit of speed or something?
[05:59] <share> yeah
[06:00] <dniMretsaM> glassrose: you can turn off the rlogin or ssh server
[06:00] <share> 310 nvidia driver is buggy avoid it!
[06:00] <Name141> Is there going to be anything that I'd need the real AMD/ATi driver vs the 'open source' one ?
[06:01] <topper4125> current in the repository is version 304... probably for a reason
[06:01] <Chanshark> hey at least you can use wireless on linux i cant >.>
[06:01] <glassrose> ok*< .} have sshd running
[06:01] <dniMretsaM> Name141: mainly just how many FPS they get.
[06:01] <share> topper4125: yeah thats why i asked.. to confirm cause im not using ubuntu now
[06:01] <share> derp
[06:01] <share> :D
[06:01] <gnomefreak> weird thing about nvidia/ati drivers. one dev cycle nvidia will be messed up and ati fine, next dev cycle ati will be broken and so on
[06:02] <Name141> dniMretsaM: So, nothing to do with normal videos, bluray playback, etc ? just for games I'd need the real one?
[06:02] <dniMretsaM> try it out. if the videos are choppy or whatever, get the proprietary one
[06:02] <Name141> dniMretsaM: I was thinking about turning that machine in to a MythTV OTA player some day.
[06:02] <vhadil> how to fix
[06:02] <Name141> slash/DVR
[06:03] <dniMretsaM> no experience with that, so I don't know. I use all Intel cards anyway
[06:03] <gnomefreak> hm i thought Skype is free :(
[06:03] <Name141> ..intel makes video cards?
[06:03] <topper4125> after micro$oft bought it... it'll never be free again...
[06:03] <gnomefreak> Name141: yes they do
[06:03] <topper4125> or private
[06:03] <vhadil> how to fix this http://dpaste.com/873699/
[06:03] <Name141> gnomefreak: I thought it was just intergrated
[06:04] <Sapirus__> not exactly cards but chips ;)
[06:04] <Sapirus__> und they suck
[06:04] <Name141> anyway, I'll check out the latest to see if it meets my needs and head on from there I guess
[06:04] <Name141> (if to go back to LTS, or not)
[06:05] <topper4125> depending on what you are doing with the system, intel video can be more than enough... just depends on use
[06:05] <dniMretsaM> vhadil: you need to install a supported version of Ubuntu. 10.10 is EOL and it's repositories have been taken offline
[06:05] <gnomefreak> Name141: im on the web site and they want $2.99 a nomth
[06:05] <singharkirat> Hey.. I am using ubuntu 11.10 on lenovo think station s20... But some of my systems just hang after boot screen.. Any help..?
[06:05] <Name141> gnomefreak: what website
[06:05] <vhadil> dniMretsaM, i dont know, can u tell my
[06:05] <gnomefreak> Name141: http://beta.skype.com/en/rates/
[06:06] <Name141> ..uhm.. ok....
[06:06] <dniMretsaM> vhadil: umm, don't know what?
[06:06] <singharkirat> Ubuntu 11.10 help please...
[06:06] <gnomefreak> singharkirat: why not upgrade to 12.10
[06:06] <vhadil>  you need to install a supported version of Ubuntu. 10.10 is EOL
[06:07] <dniMretsaM> singharkirat: can you boot into recovery mode?
[06:07] <singharkirat> Yess
[06:07] <topper4125> M$ bought skype for 8.5 Billion, you didn't think they were just going to throw all that away did ya?
[06:07] <dniMretsaM> singharkirat: ok. when the black screen shows up, can you get to a TTY?
[06:07] <singharkirat> If i select normal boot from recovery mode..
[06:07] <Name141> I wonder if Skype is going to allow for Yahoo, as MSN did ?
[06:08] <singharkirat> System starts with a bad resolution..
[06:08] <phong_> hi guys, how to check  what is my sftp port listen to?
[06:08] <gnomefreak> rosseaux: i hoped they would
[06:08] <dniMretsaM> singharkirat: that's normal.
[06:08] <phong_> at 1 one i changed it...now i forgot
[06:08] <singharkirat> Y?
[06:08] <dniMretsaM> vhadil: yeah, that's what I said.
[06:08] <phong_> anyone?
[06:08] <vhadil> damn
[06:08] <singharkirat> I have approx 40 systems with exactly same configuration..
[06:08] <dniMretsaM> singharkirat: I believe that it retains the NOMODESET option when booting that way.
[06:08] <vhadil> change repo
[06:09] <phong_> how to check my current sftp port ?
[06:09] <phong_> or ssh port that it is listen to
[06:09] <topper4125> !spft | phong_
[06:09] <dniMretsaM> phong_: you can nmap yourself
[06:09] <topper4125> !sfpt | phong_
[06:09] <singharkirat> But problem is with few systems only.. Rest boot fine..
[06:10] <topper4125> !sftp | phong_
[06:10] <topper4125> dang... too tired to get 4 letters in the right order...
[06:10] <phong_> i'm not good at reading it man
[06:10] <phong_> can't you just tell me what to do?
[06:10] <topper4125> No point in typing it if no one wants to read it
[06:11] <dniMretsaM> singharkirat: are they all the same machine with the same graphics configurations?
[06:11] <singharkirat> Nomodeset??
[06:11] <topper4125> and I don't have voip...
[06:11]  * gnomefreak tries to read everything
[06:11] <phong_> come on
[06:11] <singharkirat> Yess..
[06:11] <singharkirat> Same lenovo thinkstation s20
[06:12] <dniMretsaM> well obviously something is different, because they're not working
[06:13] <dniMretsaM> singharkirat: did you ever answer my question about TTYs?
[06:13] <singharkirat> They are exactly same.. :(
[06:13] <dniMretsaM> um, bye?
[06:16] <backbox> how can I get .bashrc to execute a binary?
[06:17] <daniel6644> after 6 hours off fedora related nvidia and bumblee bee problems I moved to ubuntu. Took 8 minutes to get the proprietery drivers working with bumblee bee. Well odne ubuntu.
[06:17] <nearst> .bashrc is configuration file for bash
[06:17] <dr_willis> its a script file also
[06:18] <nearst> try chmod +x <file to execute> and ./<file to execute> or bash <file to execute>
[06:18] <dr_willis> at the end put      commandtirun &
[06:18] <nearst> ty dr_willis
[06:18] <dr_willis> .bashrc  is ran when each new shell starts up
[06:18] <backbox> I did try ./intro
[06:18] <dr_willis> so it may not be what you want
[06:18] <tg3> Anyone care to help a complete idiot?
[06:19] <backbox> that's my program
[06:19] <dr_willis> blackbox ans for some reason you need it to run every time you open a new shell?
[06:19] <tg3> I'
[06:20] <backbox> I want it to, just to look cool I guess
[06:20] <dr_willis> backbox:  whats that program do exactly?
[06:20] <backbox> It prints the out put of an ever changing file
[06:20] <replica> can any1 help out with chaning the ubuntu panel color ?
[06:20] <replica> me*
[06:21] <dr_willis> backbox:  well  in .bashrc at the end you  can put    /path/to/your/command &
[06:21] <dr_willis> you may not need the &
[06:21] <tg3> I'm having an issue with booting into Windows 8. I started out in Windows 8 and then created a Ubuntu USB stick and installed Ubuntu 12.10. Everything was going great until I went into Windows 8 and deleted the partition that Ubuntu was on. After that I couldn't load Windows 8 anymore. I get an error message in Windows Recovery about winlogon.exe being corrupt or missing. It's not missing. It won't let me do anything else in Windows Reco
[06:21] <nearst> include #! /bin/bash in your <intro> file ?
[06:21] <miroesq> my ubuntu 10.04 install did an auto update to a new kernel and now a CRITICAL program no longer runs. how can i revert back to the old kernel?
[06:22] <kepler> tg3, you'll probably have to do a startup repair off your win8 dvd. boot to that and instead of installing, repair system
[06:22] <nearst> miroesq, try boot last kernel option in grub
[06:23] <miroesq> nearst, can you direct me to a how-to?
[06:23] <replica> how to change the panel color for ubuntu 12.10 ????
[06:23] <tg3> kepler, that's my big issue now. I don't have a win8 disc or USB. I built this computer, got the win8 RP, then upgraded with the win8 assistant to the full version.
[06:23] <replica> help me out i am a total noob
[06:23] <replica> :|
[06:23] <dr_willis> replica:  why is it critical you do somthing  like that?
[06:23] <backbox> well intro is a c++ comand line app to prind the file everchange, everchange is intern generated from a web feed for quotes
[06:23] <replica> i want it complt black
[06:24] <replica> purple sux :|
[06:24] <kepler> tg3, search for a win8 pe iso? you'll need to run that startup repair off something. no other option really
[06:24] <dr_willis> replica:  i though it changed in according ot the wallpaper you set.
[06:24] <replica> yes it changed into purple
[06:24] <replica> i want it black
[06:24] <MoL0ToV> hi to all
[06:24] <KongKung> :{}
[06:25] <singharkirat> Hi
[06:25] <KongKung> hi guy
[06:25] <tg3> I downloaded a win8.iso and burned it to a USB stick, but it doesn't load anything upon boot. I triple checked that it was the first in line of boot order.
[06:25] <replica> any tools for changing  the panel color
[06:25] <replica> ?
[06:25] <topper4125> what's the major color of your wallpaper replica?
[06:25] <backbox> My issue is not critical either, so if this is a triage system than I shall wait
[06:25] <gnomefreak> hi MoL0ToV
[06:25] <kepler> did it load the first time?
[06:25] <replica> purple :(( is the major color but the wallpapers too good
[06:25] <tg3> No
[06:25] <replica> panel color sux
[06:25] <nearst> miroesq, uncomment #GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" at /etc/default/grub, sudo update-grub and boot in recovery mode or last kernel
[06:25] <kepler> how did you install it initially?
[06:26] <tg3> I created a USB installer from an older computer with Windows Vista on it.
[06:26] <dr_willis> ive seen color tweakable themes at the  webupd8 and omgubuntu sites. but i never messed wihh them
[06:26] <tg3> I booted off the USB and it worked fine.
[06:27] <kepler> can you recreate that installer the same way, off that old machine?
[06:27] <miroesq> nearst, before i really start messing around with this thing, i would like to make sure that what i believe is the issue is correct. is it at all possible to find out under which kernel a specific .deb package was installed or in the alternate, when the kernel was actually updated?
[06:27] <replica> -.-' sad the panel is so girly now
[06:27] <tg3> I hadn't thought about it, but that will be my next step... To fire that sucker up.
[06:27] <backbox> replica, what desktop r u running?
[06:27] <replica> ubuntu 12.10
[06:27] <KongKung> ><"
[06:28] <dr_willis> !manual  | replica
[06:28] <backbox> sorry, I mean like XFCE, Gnome, KDE etc
[06:28] <dr_willis> you can select differnt themes awith differnt colors and theres many custome themes  out there
[06:28] <kepler> gl! startup repair should do it. if not, may want to google fixboot for win8, think it is called bootrec or something
[06:28] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem, if i click on firefox user e password fields on gmail, the keyboard don't write (after latest updates) howto fix?
[06:28] <tg3> Thanks kepler!
[06:29] <topper4125> !windows | better windows support for you  probably
[06:29] <nearst> miroesq, depends. what problem actually? if graphic issue. try nomodeset in grub option ( which usually ppl get )
[06:30] <singharkirat> How to use nomodeset in grub?
[06:30] <backbox> replica, are you using the Unity Desktop, or Gnome, or KDE, or XFCE, or LXDE?
[06:30] <topper4125> love you ubottu gives the same results for !windows and !bug1
[06:30] <backbox> Cinnamon...
[06:30] <replica> how to know tht i just installed ubuntu 2 days back
[06:30] <replica> :| ?
[06:30] <replica> i am a total noob
[06:30] <nearst> singharkirat, enter "e" on grub line option before boot
[06:31] <miroesq> nearst, it is for a very specific program, netborder express for my sangoma telephony card. from searching and reading, it may very well be because the program was installed under one kernel and now a different kernel is running.
[06:31] <singharkirat> Okay.. :)
[06:31] <backbox> replica, you installed regular Ubuntu
[06:31] <replica> yep
[06:31] <backbox> Your running Unity Desktop
[06:31] <anomoly> what is the best way to run a fully persistent ubuntu environment on a flash drive?
[06:31] <nearst> miroesq, yeah. some application,distro, mods really have specific option in kernel. im guess try boot with your last kernel
[06:32] <replica> so wat shd i do ?
[06:32] <miroesq> nearst, if i reboot with my last kernel, can i change that again without any problems?
[06:33] <decci> I have installed Ubuntu without RAID partitioning system. I have just one /dev/sda1,2,3 partiton I can see through fdisk. I added 3 more disk. How shall I create RAID out of my four disk
[06:33] <nearst> miroesq, if application have no problem with your last kernel. just always boot the right kernel. incase u dont wanna play with kernel compile thinggy
[06:33] <dr_willis> anomoly:  you can do a full install to a flash drive. if its large enough
[06:33] <decci> Is it possible to include /dev/sda too for RAID
[06:33] <topper4125> Unity desktop really doesn't offer much in the way of user control of the appearance... best idea for those who want total control of their desktop enviroment is to switch to one that isnt so controlling.
[06:33] <backbox> Bad news, idk anything about it, I always use xfce on whatever distro I run, but the good news is it very popular, very well known, and well documented I'm sure... google could probably help you with some persistence... replica your name just to alert you if your IRCclient supports it.
[06:34] <decci> I am looking for RAID 10 out of 4 HDD of 3TB each
[06:34] <replica> anyways thnkx backbox
[06:34] <anomoly> dr_willis: should I inclued the bootloader on the flash drive? if so can I do that without effecting the current bootloader?
[06:35] <backbox> hakuna
[06:35]  * backbox is leaving now... bye bye all
[06:36] <miroesq> nearst, your instructions are to uncomment #GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" at /etc/default/grub, sudo update-grub and boot in recovery mode or last kernel. I can uncomment that line, execute the update grub command,, but i have no idea how ot reboot in recovery mode or using last kernel.
[06:36] <anomoly> dr_willis: it's been a while since I tired, but I think last time I did the usb install it messed with local bootloader and I had to have the flash drive in to boot the local OS
[06:37] <nearst> miroesq, try reboot and choose last kernel or recovery mode
[06:37] <miroesq> nearst, another problem is that i am in a remote location using ssh
[06:38] <miroesq> nearst, so i can't choose anything at the boot screen
[06:39] <miroesq> nearst, can i issue a command to boot using a specific kernel?
[06:39] <dr_willis> anomoly:  you tell grub to install to the mbr of the usb
[06:39] <dr_willis> anomoly:  i do usb installs all the time
[06:40] <nearst> miroesq, ouch. try ls -l /boot. check how many kernel inside
[06:40] <anomoly> dr_willis: excellent, I'll give it a go. Thanks for the help!
[06:40] <miroesq> nearst, will this command reboot my system or just show me which kernel's are installed?
[06:40] <savagecroc> i'm getting setfacl: /srv: Invalid argument    when running setfacl --modify user:blix_int:r-x /srv
[06:41] <savagecroc> any ideas why?
[06:41] <miroesq> nearst, dpkg --list | grep linux-image shows me that i have 3 kernels
[06:42] <savagecroc> i am root, /srv is rwx, blix_int definitly exists.. i've got no idea why it's failing
[06:43] <nearst> miroesq, u can choose default kernel in /etc/default/grub
[06:44] <miroesq> nearst, is there a log file somewhere that would show me when a kernel was updated?
[06:46] <peugi>  hi I am running postgres and python wsgi server on the same micro ec2 instance, do you think I should put postgres on a separate micro ec2 instanc
[06:47] <peugi> would that speed up things a bit?
[06:47] <nearst> miroesq, ya. in /var/log/apt/history.log
[06:47] <miroesq> nearst, thank you so much. let me look at that first and let you know if i see anything.
[06:48] <savagecroc> can anyone tell me what could be wrong with setfacl --modify user:991:rwx /srv to give me : setfacl: /srv: Invalid argumen
[06:48] <nearst> miroesq, okies.
[06:52] <miroesq> nearst, beautiful, i found the entry that messed everything up for me!
[06:52] <miroesq> nearst, can i paste it somewhere for you to take a look at?
[06:53] <nearst> !info pastebin
[06:53] <nearst> !pastebin
[06:53] <miroesq> nearst, http://pastebin.com/DtQuwFnX
[06:56] <bentinata> hello?
[06:56] <bentinata> anybody?
[06:57] <singharkirat> Hello
[06:57] <livefree424> hi
[06:58] <nearst> miroesq, try check any kernel boot option at /boot/extlinux/linux.cfg
[06:59] <miroesq> nearst, 1 sec.
[07:00] <miroesq> nearst, I don't have that directory.
[07:00] <miroesq> nearst, i'm running ubuntu 10.04
[07:00] <nearst> oic.
[07:01] <bentinata> TIME
[07:01] <bentinata> PING
[07:01] <bentinata> Whois
[07:02] <miroesq> nearst, do you think this can be fixed?
[07:02] <nearst> miroesq, usually kernel boot default in /etc/default/grub by changing default=0 options
[07:02] <nearst> miroesq, in case u have 3 kernel. so u will have 6 line kernel include recovery
[07:03] <miroesq> nearst, was it just the kernel or what was upgarded exactly in that paste?
[07:03] <nearst> miroesq, so last kernel maybe default=2
[07:03] <bentinata>  
[07:03] <bentinata>  
[07:03] <bentinata>  
[07:03] <bentinata>  
[07:03] <bentinata>  
[07:03] <bentinata>  
[07:03] <FloodBot1> bentinata: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <miroesq> nearst, this is my grub http://pastebin.com/wURFpumZ
[07:06] <nearst> which kernel is work fine before upgrade ?
[07:07] <miroesq> nearst, i have no idea. i can pastebin the only kernel update i did. mind you, i only installed this system less than 48 hours ago.
[07:08] <nearst> miroesq, owh. try change to default=2 then sudo update-grub
[07:09] <miroesq> nearst, http://pastebin.com/bPbdCvpd this was the only two entries i had with regard to the kernel
[07:10] <miroesq> nearst, are you sure that i have 3 kernels and that default 2 will not leave me stuck and dead in the water after a reboot?
[07:10] <dr_willis> you can select different kernels from the grub menu
[07:10] <mighty2361> hello
[07:11] <mighty2361> any1 here?
[07:11] <dr_willis> 1000+ people in this room
[07:11] <nearst> miroesq, sure. worth to try. if not work. change to default=4
[07:12] <mighty2361> any1 knows how can I install ubuntu (wubi) with more than 30 gbs?
[07:12] <nearst> gbs?
[07:12] <mighty2361> gigabytes
[07:12] <Rosuav> Hi, I've no idea if I'm in the right place or not... is there a proper place to ask for help building Upstart?
[07:12] <nearst> ubuntu from wubi and set harddisk to 30gb for installation? that what u mean?
[07:12] <nixbag> so i'm using a custom ubuntu install from the mini.iso, and I don't have networking-manager. tried editing /etc/network/interfaces (works in debian).
[07:13] <dr_willis> after the install, you can enlarge your wubi hd/save file i belive
[07:13] <miroesq> nearst, so no matter what, the system will reboot again, it is not going to get stuck?
[07:13] <mighty2361> no
[07:13] <mighty2361> more than 30gb
[07:13] <nearst> miroesq, ya. only different kernel.current kernel is problem to your application. maybe try boot another
[07:14] <nixbag> is there a special way to set a static IP from the commandline? doing it via /etc/network/interfaces like most other distros doesn't work.
[07:14] <dr_willis> mighty2361:  id say check askubuntu.com to see if they have a anwser for that.
[07:14] <nixbag> and i don't have networkmanager installed. did a minimal install.
[07:14] <Rosuav> nixbag, I disable or uninstall networkmanager on all my boxes, and then /etc/network/interfaces works fine
[07:15] <dr_willis> nixbag:  theres the ifconfig and other commands
[07:15] <nixbag> Rosuav: weird. I always get connection problems after setting it to static
[07:15] <nearst> nixbag, append /etc/network/interfaces line to static
[07:15] <Rosuav> auto eth1
[07:15] <Rosuav> iface eth1 inet static
[07:15] <Rosuav> That's not working?
[07:16] <zykotic10> Rosuav: you'd also need the lines: address, netmask, network, broadcast and gateway.
[07:16] <nixbag> my setup now is as follows:  iface eth0 inet static\n address 192.168.1.x\n netmask 255.255.255.0\n gateway 192.168.1.1
[07:16] <nixbag> in debian all i need is address, netmask, and gateway
[07:16] <nearst> your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:17] <Rosuav> Assuming of course that that isn't a literal 'x', that should work. What isn't working?
[07:17] <nixbag> my resolv.conf has my nameservers
[07:17] <bentinata> anyone understand NetBeansIDE?
[07:17] <bentinata> anyone understand NetBeansIDE?
[07:17] <nixbag> i was using x just as a variable
[07:17] <Rosuav> Yep
[07:17] <alang> I've gotten a bus error, and my core file limit is set to unlimited, but nothing was created in /var/crash. Why could this be? (my /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern is the default ubuntu one)
[07:17] <Rosuav> I've seen some weird config file errors though :)
[07:18] <nixbag> but shouldnt the network pull my nameservers from my resolv.conf anyway? i shouldnt have to put them in the /etc/network/interfaces
[07:18] <nearst> route add gw default <ip>
[07:18] <nearst> check your gateway by route -n
[07:19] <nixbag> gateway is correct. the settings always worked in debian 100%, but doesnt in ubuntu
[07:19] <nixbag> tried flushing dns also
[07:20] <nearst> usually work with me on minimal installation
[07:20] <nixbag> maybe its my router giving me problems
[07:21] <Rosuav> I actually don't have a recent Ubuntu system to test on
[07:21] <Rosuav> My latest is... Maverick. :|
[07:21] <nearst> i love karmic most
[07:21] <Rosuav> My server's still running Karmic.
[07:21] <Rosuav> Until I had a UPS failure last week, it was boasting 129 weeks of uptime
[07:21] <miroesq> nearst, sure my system is not going to get stuck if i set default to 2 and reboot?
[07:22] <meet> can some one give me a step by step help with installation?
[07:22] <miroesq> nearst, i looked at grub.cfg and i believe that 2 is right. then again, i have never done any of this before. i am using serach, reading a lot and of course, your help :)
[07:22] <nearst> miroesq, set default=2 and update-grub
[07:23] <meet> i have 20gb partition. want to install ubuntu to dual boot alongwith win7. on the installtion screen i selected something else.. which is showing me the gparted tool i think. how should i select my 20gb drive and all the swap and all?
[07:23] <nearst> miroesq, latest install kernel always default=0 , incase u wanna set other kernel. default=0 options will do the work
[07:24] <miroesq> nearst, here goes nothing :)
[07:24] <shothex1> #icmp
[07:25] <summeyte> So irritating
[07:25] <bennett1> hi! Can anyone tell me if there is a command to check what DNS servers I'm using?
[07:25] <Shirakawasuna> I want my OS to be on a RAID 1 array. I'm open to a fresh installation option. However I"m not finding any guides that specifically apply to anything since 10.04. Does anyone know how to set up RAID1 for / ?
[07:26] <dr_willis> meet:  you will need to make 2 partios. one of type ext4 to mount to '/' and one of type swap  with the fs type of swap
[07:26] <meet> dr_willis so my ntfs drive is visible. should i click on change?
[07:26] <shothex1> bennett1,  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[07:27] <dr_willis> meet:  you have a empty ntfs partion you are wanting to delete to use it?
[07:27] <meet> yes
[07:27] <dr_willis> meet:  so delete it. and make 2 partions in its placxe. one for / one for swap
[07:27] <meet> how much should i keep the swap?
[07:28] <nearst> usually double size of your ram
[07:28] <dr_willis> depends on your ram and needs
[07:28] <dr_willis> any rule of thumb can be argued  either way ;)
[07:28] <bennett1> shothex1: tks
[07:28] <yuqiang> nice to meet you.
[07:28] <nearst> yup
[07:28] <meet> is 2 gb enough? dr_willis
[07:28] <dr_willis> double ram would be silly on a 32gb ram machine
[07:28] <dr_willis> i dont even have a swap on my 8gb box. ;)
[07:29] <summeyte> Does anyone know how to edit grub so I can add the option to boot from sdb1?
[07:29] <dr_willis> but thats because i frogot to make one
[07:29] <dr_willis> summeyte:  you can put custom entries in /etc/grub.d/40_custom if you knew what to put in there
[07:29] <meet> dr_willis i tend to hibernate instead of shut down. so i was told on another channel to keep a swap
[07:29] <dr_willis> i never hibernate
[07:29] <nearst> dr_willis, agree.mine on 16gb ram
[07:29] <meet> so out of 20 gb.. will 18+2 be good enough?
[07:30] <moses_> good morning to each one of you
[07:30] <dr_willis> meet:  whats your ram size?
[07:30] <meet> 6gb
[07:30] <nearst> meet, 1gb is ok
[07:30] <dr_willis> if you want to use hibernate - then you will want 6gb+a little more.
[07:30] <dr_willis> ir you dont - 1gb should be plenty
[07:31] <nearst> hihi
[07:31] <miroesq> nearst, well, the card came up, so that is a big improvement, but it is still not working. think i have to configure it again or something, but made a HUGE step forward. thanks so much!
[07:31] <meet> ok but out of the 20gb giving 6gb is a little too much for me.. even though i would want to hibernate. so 2gb will do?
[07:31] <summeyte> Thank you dr_willis - the bios on this laptop isn't cooperating and I want to add a USB Stick option to Grub
[07:32] <dr_willis> summeyte:  not sure if that will work. but i guess you can try
[07:32] <summeyte> This is the first time I have had an issue so I am not familiar with it
[07:32] <nearst> miroesq, nice. maybe your last working kernel is default=4
[07:33] <miroesq> nearst, i could try it.
[07:33] <nearst> summeyte, u mean boot from iso loop?
[07:33] <summeyte> I have the bios set to boot from USB but it doesn't see the USB stick.
[07:33] <savagecroc> what is the difference between addgroup groupname and addgroup --system groupname?
[07:33] <meet> dr_willis: i go for 2gb swap. so it's showing me 20gb free space. i create a new partition of 18000mbs. location? use as? mount point?
[07:34] <summeyte> I tested the USB stick in another pc and it is working fine
[07:34] <dr_willis> meet:  i said ext4 and '/' for the mountpiint earlier. ;)
[07:34] <meet> oh sorry  forgot :)
[07:34] <nearst> it depends on bios. maybe f9-f12 .. just spam click while boot. lol
[07:35] <summeyte> There is no legacy option
[07:35] <summeyte> lemme try all func keys
[07:35] <samuraibsd> Installing 12.10 via USB.  Install seems to have hung, and I don't remember ever seeing what's going on in the console.  Does it usually take 20 minutes to resize a 1TB drive?
[07:36] <miroesq> nearst, should not have changed it to 4. the system did not come back up
[07:36] <meet> dr_willis can i remove the swap area or reduce it after installation if i am not using hibernate ?
[07:36] <summeyte> It's F7 on this machine and even when you select USB it still boots to Grub.
[07:36] <nearst> miroesq, ouh. okk.
[07:36] <dr_willis> meet:  you can set up a swap file if you want to change sawp around
[07:37] <dr_willis> my 8gb box rarely touches swap during normal ussage
[07:37] <miroesq> nearst, we should have quit while we were ahead
[07:38] <meet> dr_willis ok created the partitions. i select the 18gb partition and click install?
[07:38] <dr_willis> 18gb should be mounted to /   2gb  as swap. and  then continue with the install
[07:39] <meet> ok. btw what are the other options like /home etc?
[07:39] <daniel6644> does anyone have any experiance with bumble bee. when I follow the ubuntu wiki instructions for instralling the proprietery drivers. after boot I get a black screen with a flashing underscore in the top left corner
[07:40] <Grievre> So I have ubuntu set up to boot straight into desktop, however I want it to boot into xfce, not unity
[07:40] <Grievre> (I have xubuntu-desktop installed)
[07:40] <Grievre> how can I achieve this
[07:40] <dr_willis> meet:  you can set up other partions tgo be specific system directories
[07:40] <BWMerlin> Nvidia has updated their official driver release, how long does it take for that then to appear in the ubuntu repositories?
[07:40] <dr_willis> meet:  /home is a common one for that
[07:41] <miroesq> nearst, my friend is going to go to the server's location now. is there a program that we can use to fix this grub issue?
[07:41] <bentinata> anybode knows NetBeansIDE?
[07:42] <kepler> i know it exists. what's the issue?
[07:42] <Grievre> ..really?
[07:42] <nearst> miroesq, what grub issue?
[07:42] <meet> dr_willis so where are all the softwares and games installed?
[07:42] <dr_willis> meet:  on your system drive  ie: /
[07:42] <miroesq> nearst, my system will no longer boot after we changed default to 4
[07:43] <nearst> miroesq, owh. change default=2 then update-grub then reboot
[07:43] <nearst> miroesq, thought u have 3 kernel
[07:43] <miroesq> i can't change it as the system is not booting
[07:43] <dr_willis> 4 would be the 5th kernel..
[07:44] <miroesq> nearst, i thought i had 3, but then again, this is the first time i deal with linux and grub
[07:44] <miroesq> nearst, like i said, i am doing a whole lot of searching and reading
[07:44] <nearst> maybe. im guess now ur linux boot at recovery mode
[07:44] <miroesq> nearst, now it is not booting. any way we can correct this?
[07:44] <bentinata> anyone know java?
[07:45] <dr_willis> !java | bentinata
[07:45] <miroesq> nearst, maybe if he holds the shift button while booting?
[07:45] <bentinata> thanks, dr_willis
[07:45] <meet> dr_willis how long will the installation take? :D
[07:45] <kepler> just ask questions, dont ask about asking!
[07:46] <nearst> miroesq, shift button?
[07:46] <dr_willis> meet:  depends on your system perhaps 45 min
[07:46] <meet> dr_willis ok.. and after installation.. will grub replace my win7 bootloader?
[07:47] <miroesq> nearst, i read you can select which kernel to boot by holding the shift while booting
[07:47] <dr_willis> meet:  thats its job.. yes
[07:47] <meet> so it will list windows 7 in that list?
[07:47] <summeyte> If I can log into Ubuntu, is there a way to initiate a re-install?
[07:47] <dr_willis> meet:  thats its job.. yes....
[07:47] <meet> :)
[07:47] <dr_willis> summeyte:  reinsall what?
[07:47] <miroesq> nearst, well is there any fix for this situation or am i screwed and will just have to wipe out the system and start all over again?
[07:47] <meet> dr_willis any way to edit the grub menu?
[07:47] <summeyte> ubuntu
[07:47] <dr_willis> meet:  yes
[07:48] <dr_willis> miroesq:  the grub menu shoulkd have an entry for EVERY kernel you have insgtalled
[07:48] <meet> dr_willis could you suggest any tool?
[07:48] <dr_willis> !grub | meet
[07:48] <nearst> !info grub-pc | meet
[07:49] <dr_willis> you havent even gotten the system installed.. why are you worried about grub ;)
[07:49] <nearst> haha
[07:49] <miroesq> dr_willis: unfortunately, I can't check any more as the system is no longer booting. i do have a copy of the grub.cfg if taht would help
[07:49] <summeyte> I have a screwed up 64bit install and want to reinstall 32bit ubuntu.  Since I have installed Ubuntu I am no longer able to boot from the USB stick.
[07:49] <dr_willis> miroesq:  whats not booting about it? it should get to the grub menu reguardless of what kernel you have selected as default
[07:49] <dr_willis> the grub menu loads BEFOR the kernel does
[07:49] <meet> dr_willis i prefer less options on that boot screen.. :)
[07:50] <nearst> meet, it was tough
[07:50] <bentinata> summeyte, why you can't boot from usb?
[07:50] <summeyte> Good question
[07:50] <miroesq> dr_willis: I selected a kernel that does not exist. I set default to 2 and it booted into my previous kernel and worked. i thenn changed it to 4 and now it did not boot
[07:50] <summeyte> That is the whole issue
[07:51] <bentinata> summeyte, it should able to boot from usb, even you have ubuntu installed on your pc
[07:51] <dr_willis> miroesq:  and if you can see the pc's screen. you should be able to see a grub menu (hold shift as it boots if grub is hidden) and then select whatever kernel you want..
[07:51] <miroesq> dr_willis: unfortunately, i am in a remote location. my friend is theer now, i will have him do that and see what happens. thanks
[07:51] <summeyte> I am able to hit F7 and tell it to use the USB stick (which works) and it still goes to Grub2
[07:52] <summeyte> What I mean by works is the USB stick can be put in a different laptop and it boots to ubuntu fine
[07:52] <bentinata> summeyte, try go to BIOS setting
[07:52] <summeyte> Done that already
[07:52] <dr_willis> miroesq:  i have to wonder what app broke by the kernel update
[07:53] <nearst> dr_willis, owh. idk bout shift button.
[07:53] <bentinata> summeyte, and put usb on first line?
[07:53] <dr_willis> the whole hide grub by default.. is annoying. :) and makes support just a bit harder
[07:53] <dr_willis> they could at least put a message 'Hold shift to see grub menu..............'
[07:54] <summeyte> Yes.  I have done this before.  Never encountered an issue where the USB is first and it still go to grub unless my usb key wasn't setup correctly
[07:54] <miroesq> dr_willis: no app broke the kernel update. the kernel update broke an app, netborder express from sangoma for my sangoma telephony card.
[07:55] <dr_willis> miroesq:  you sure you just dont need to reinstgall/recompile some module for that device for the newer kernel?
[07:56] <miroesq> dr_willis: that could have been the case, but i am not that technically inclined
[07:57] <miroesq> dr_willis: not in linux :)
[07:57] <nearst> im agree. maybe ur problem with some module use in sangoma ip-pbx
[07:57] <dr_willis> check the old kernel that works and see  what modules its loading via 'lsmod' compare to a non working kernel.   there may be a simple way to install the proper modules that would get it working with all the  kernels
[07:57] <miroesq> dr_willis: woohoo we got the system up.
[07:57] <dr_willis> ive no idea what modules that gizmo would use
[07:58] <miroesq> dr_willis: one minute and i will correct the kernel boot option and let you know
[07:58] <nearst> lol. pbx solution software. most use 3cx
[07:58] <daniel6644> Hey Guys, after installing the nvidia driver if I then install mes-utils will that screw up my nvidia drivers/
[07:58] <miroesq> dr_willis: i know you are going to hate the hell out of this, but i can troubleshoot the sh*t out of windows
[07:58] <miroesq> dr_willis: just no linux
[07:58] <dr_willis> daniel6644:  why do you need mesa utils?
[07:59] <daniel6644> I JUST WANTED TO TEST BUMBLEBEE WITH GLXGEARS.
[07:59] <daniel6644> sry for caps
[08:00] <daniel6644> i think mesa-utils is breaking my install though
[08:00] <dr_willis> bumblebees can sting you..
[08:00] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:00] <nearst> daniel6644, aw
[08:00] <daniel6644> would that make sense
[08:02] <c2tarun> I created a chroot env for quantal. I logged in using chroot command as root and created a user. Now I am not able to log in with that user. Can anyone please help me with this?
[08:03] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  why are you doing all this?
[08:03] <daniel6644> should i not install mesa-utils after nvidia drivers?
[08:04] <cmj141> summeyte : have you tried sticking it into the different usb ports?
[08:04] <c2tarun> dr_willis, I am trying to learn packaging, in ubuntu. Thought its better to use chroot than to screw my current installation.
[08:04] <cmj141> dr_willis : i have a 4gb ram well 3.8 and i think i only gave swap 1 gb.. is that fine for me?
[08:05] <dr_willis> cmj141:  should be ok. depends on what you do with thesystem
[08:05] <dr_willis> cmj141:  you can always add a swap file later if you wanted to
[08:05] <c2tarun> cmj141, I dont think you need any swap space for 4 GB RAM, unless you are trying something really heavy.
[08:05] <cmj141> dr_willis : 8gb box as in 8gb hd or 8gb ram?
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> use a swap anyway
[08:05] <aeon-ltd> unless this is a ssd
[08:06] <c2tarun> aeon-ltd, any advantage of swap, if it never gets used?
[08:06] <cmj141> daniel6644 : that happened to me.. i reinstalled my linux to fix it
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> 'just in case' situations
[08:06] <cmj141> daniel6644 : check your partitions.. i noticed i had an extra swap partition and an extra linux partition...
[08:06] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with my chroot problem?
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> c2tarun: hibernation, some items get paged there anyway. It's better to have this so you can dump and free up ram for other processes
[08:07] <banda> i installed open-jdk, open-jre and netbeans plus iced-tea, i want to use oracle java 7 and eclipse though - though apt is trying to install openjdk 6 as a dependency to eclipse. how can i remove all of the java packages and their dependencies (i cant remember everything i installed) and then indstall oracle 7 sdk and eclipse
[08:07] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  i think the proper term is a ''chroot jail'
[08:07] <c2tarun> aeon-ltd, ohh.... ya I forgot :) it'll be used in case of hibernation, sorry :P I dont hibernate
[08:07] <nearst> c2tarun, chroot?
[08:07] <banda> i have open jdk 7 installed
[08:07] <c2tarun> dr_willis, yup.
[08:08] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  somthing ive never messed with.  if i was experimenting, id just use vbox :)
[08:08] <daniel6644> thats what im doing now
[08:08] <daniel6644> thanks
[08:08] <c2tarun> dr_willis, vbox is too heavy as compared to chroot.
[08:08] <glassrose> dniMretsaM_away, .I tried start and stop initctl commands but .I think they require root privileges. ..I cannot enter correct pwd .(someone's misbehaving) and this is what .I get:
[08:08] <glassrose> anybody?
[08:08] <c2tarun> banda, try this page: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[08:08] <meet> dr_willis finished installing :) just restarted the comp and that too real quick :)
[08:08] <glassrose> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1523045/
[08:09] <nearst> glassrose, use sudo
[08:10] <glassrose> nearst, yes .I typed ...$udo stop ssh
[08:10] <nearst> glassrose, sudo service stop ssh?
[08:11] <nyuszika7h> hi, I upgraded from quantal to raring by editing /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, now ubuntu has no idea I upgraded, and on the login screen it still says 12.10 even though it's actually 13.04. is there any way to fix this?
[08:11] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h:  that was Not the proper way to Upgrade from one release to the next
[08:11] <nyuszika7h> dr_willis: yes, I've realized.
[08:12] <nyuszika7h> you know, I'm so used to debian and others that I forgot ubuntu has do-release-upgrade.
[08:12] <sergey_099> всем привет
[08:12] <dr_willis> ;)
[08:12] <nyuszika7h> should I reinstall or is there a better way?
[08:12] <dr_willis> nyuszika7h:  with beta testing.. its most likely best to do a clean install
[08:12] <sergey_099> народ есть кто-нить с Росиии. Нужна помощь
[08:12] <dr_willis> you are never sure if any bugs are due to a upgrade issue.. or a installed clean type issue
[08:12] <bentinata> sergey_099, english-please
[08:13] <blkadder> There is always a better way.
[08:14] <glassrose> nearst, even there,* .I'll have to enter pwd which someone is not alowing me to enter correctly
[08:15] <blkadder> bentinata; I think the rough translation is "me love you long time, you hunk of burning, burning love." Or something like that.
[08:15] <nearst> err
[08:15] <cmj141> dr_willis : ok cool thanks.. im limited on hard drive space so i didnt want to give out much..
[08:16] <bentinata> blkadder, hahahaa
[08:16] <cmj141> c2tarun : heavy.. umm eclipse ide with java jdk and adt plugin
[08:17] <rakesh> hi
[08:17] <bentinata> hi rakesh
[08:17] <cmj141> c2tarun : would help you if i knew what chroot was?
[08:17] <bentinata> summeyte, if your files is save, you may format your system
[08:18] <bentinata> summeyte, and reinstalling it
[08:18] <Guest31605> can any1 help me
[08:18] <cmj141> banda : i dont think you need both open-jdk and open-jre. I think jdk is enough, but i could be wrong
[08:18] <Guest31605> how to install internet download managet in xubuntu
[08:18] <bentinata> Guest31605, no such thing
[08:19] <bentinata> Guest31605, but I use kget
[08:19] <cmj141> banda : i just installed eclipse Juno (alrady has jdk built in) and i noticed it added the java 6 with 7.. are you trying to get rid of 6?
[08:19] <Guest31605> or how tl modem dialer
[08:20] <bentinata> Guest31605, what is tl?
[08:20] <dr_willis> tl = tickle lightly?
[08:20] <Guest31605> to
[08:20] <Guest31605> :p
[08:20] <bentinata> xD
[08:21] <Guest31605> i want to install some windows program in xubuntu
[08:21] <bentinata> Guest31605, use wine
[08:21] <Guest31605> i'm new on ubuntu
[08:21] <dr_willis> !wine > Guest31605
[08:21] <blkadder> Awesome. I want world peace.
[08:22] <bentinata> blkadder, me too
[08:23] <wildc4rd> Any reason why I might not be able to see a network shared folder when on wifi, but can when connected via rj45?
[08:23] <blkadder> Guest31605: Really?
[08:23] <Guest31605> ya really...i'm new
[08:23] <kepler> wildc4rd, same network/subnet?
[08:24] <wildc4rd> kepler, yep
[08:24] <kepler> wildc4rd, no restrictions on IP or anything on server?
[08:24] <blkadder> How is it shared?
[08:25] <wildc4rd> nope, no restrictions, shared through ubuntu, Samba I guess
[08:25] <blkadder> What network does it show up on when using wireless vs. wired?
[08:26] <bentinata> I still dont know what is tl :|
[08:26] <Guest31605> ohhh...its printing mistake
[08:27] <summeyte> dr_willis, I think I know what the issue is now.  When Ubuntu installed EFI support was built into Grub.  It's not on the USB drive.  So there is no way that I can see to disable EFI in the bios (UEFI) and it's not booting from the USB key because it doesn't have any settings for UEFI
[08:27] <glassrose> nearst, .I am unable to become root.
[08:27] <summeyte> I need to recreate my USB drive with EFI support or it may not work
[08:28] <Guest31605> rakesh@rakesh-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install wine
[08:28] <Guest31605> [sudo] password for rakesh:
[08:28] <Guest31605> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:28] <Guest31605> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:28] <Guest31605> rakesh@rakesh-desktop:~$
[08:28] <FloodBot1> Guest31605: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <Guest31605> see this
[08:28] <Guest31605> help me
[08:28] <glassrose> as .I am unable to enter the correct password which is being tinkered
[08:28] <summeyte> or remove EFI from Grub, either way
[08:28] <wildc4rd> its the same network blkadder, the last section varies by 6 digits as the dhcp is renewed
[08:28] <kepler> Guest31605, ps -x | grep apt
[08:28] <kepler> then kill the process
[08:29] <glassrose> dniMretsaM_away, anybody .^ ?
[08:30] <Guest31605> rakesh@rakesh-desktop:~$ ps -x | grep apt
[08:30] <Guest31605> warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'?
[08:30] <Guest31605> See http://gitorious.org/procps/procps/blobs/master/Documentation/FAQ
[08:30] <Guest31605> 10073 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto apt
[08:30] <Guest31605> rakesh@rakesh-desktop:~$
[08:30] <FloodBot1> Guest31605: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <Guest31605> @kepler
[08:30] <kepler> sorry, ps x, no -
[08:30] <kepler> and it doesn't look like apt is running
[08:31] <nearst> del lock file and run sudo apt-get update
[08:31] <rigo> hi
[08:31] <kepler> ^
[08:32] <bentinata> hi rigo
[08:32] <rigo> i would like to ask for an offline installation of a minimal ubuntu like the netinst. so i would like to install only the base system but i wouldnt like to download the packages each time.
[08:33] <wildc4rd> blkadder, interestingly, in nautilus the server doesn't show up at all in the 'browse network' area when on wifi, but does the moment I plug in
[08:34] <kepler> wildc4rd, does you're router have some kind of setting to keep wireless separate?
[08:34] <miroesq_> dr_willis: i got it to work, by going back to the old kernel and reinstalling the deb package. i have auto update for security upgrades enabled. can you pls tell me how to turn that off so this does not happen again?
[08:35] <wildc4rd> kepler, not that I know of, same IP range, I'll check again though
[08:35] <dr_willis> miroesq_:  reinstalling what deb package?
[08:35] <kepler> are you able to ping and/or port scan the server?
[08:35] <miroesq_> the netborder express package that was originally broken because of the auto update
[08:39] <rigo> im in boot: but if i type in cli it sais: could not find kernel image
[08:39] <wildc4rd> kepler, yep, ping is a little higher as I'd expect, but yes, no problem
[08:42] <daniel6644> I just rebooted my machine and am getting a white blinking underscore in the top left corner of my screen. anyone had this issue?
[08:43] <kepler> wildc4rd, sudo apt-get install nmap then nmap -p 135-139 <server>
[08:43] <daniel6644> mym ouse works though but the screen is black
[08:45]  * bentinata is away: Something is more interesting.
[08:49] <jil> Hello
[08:49] <nibbler> how would i find the youngest file on a fs?
[08:49] <jil> nibbler how about ll -rt ? then look the last displayed file
[08:49] <nibbler> jil: per fs, not per dir
[08:50] <jil> fs file system?
[08:50] <nibbler> yes
[08:51] <cebor> i have to machines with ubuntu 12.10 on the one some sortcuts need a ctrl on the other not ?
[08:51] <kepler> du --time /
[08:51] <wildc4rd> kepler, closed except 139, for netbios-ssn
[08:51] <cebor> can i change this ? ctrl + super + up ->  super + up
[08:52] <kepler> wildc4rd, what about when wired? (i assume the same, but may as well look!)
[08:52] <jil> then use find and the newer and the don't cross to other filesystem arguments.
[08:52] <wildc4rd> kepler, yes, its the same
[08:53] <jil> I have a fresh ubuntu install where I created another account. But I can give that account a password.  I don't get it.
[08:53] <kepler> how are you trying to access it?
[08:54] <kepler> on wireless, if you just open whatever file browser you use, and do smb://<ip>/  does it show up?
[08:54] <dr_willis> jil:  rephrase that. its not clear
[08:54] <BillyZane> hi kepler
[08:54] <nibbler>  for f in $(find .); do OLD=$(stat -c %Z $f); NOW=$(date +%s); (( DIFF = (NOW - OLD)/60 )) ; echo "$DIFF $f"; done | sort -n
[08:54] <kepler> hi
[08:54] <nibbler> seems to do the trick
[08:55] <BillyZane> kepler, i'm not sure if this is true, but i heard that kepler was a huge failure before he made his 3 laws
[08:55] <kepler> most people are failures until they do something important :P
[08:55] <BillyZane> you can never count anyone out
[08:55] <bentinata> someone have facebook/twitter/google+ here?
[08:55] <BillyZane> the only real failure is to stop trying
[08:56] <bekks> bentinata: Why?
[08:56] <dr_willis> bentinata: i imagine most do
[08:56] <jil> I created a second account on my home computer. It has no password now. When I go to preference-- account to add a password, the validating button stays innacessible.
[08:56] <bentinata> bekks, just be friends :)
[08:56] <dr_willis> jil:  try the command line way perhaps
[08:57] <bentinata> jil, passwd
[08:57] <dr_willis> jil:  sudo adduser billgates           or
[08:57] <dr_willis> sudo passwd theusername
[08:57] <bentinata> jil, "sudo passwd"
[08:57] <wildc4rd> kepler, the folder was shared in ubuntu by right click/share then setting permissions, when wired it shows up in nautilus, I have a shortcut to the folder. When on wifi the shortcut shows the error 'Could not display smb://<server name>/shared/<folder name>' Error: Invalid Argument
[08:58] <kepler> so you're able to access it while not using that shortcut?
[08:58] <wildc4rd> via wired, yes, via wifi, no
[08:59] <jil> Ok, I didn't want to use this technic because I want the other users to be able to update themselves their password and they are close to computer illiterate.
[08:59] <dr_willis> try  smb://the.ip.of.server/  perhaps
[09:00] <jil> But let me look into it maybe if I fixe the firts password, they will be able to change it easily.
[09:00] <jil> Thankyou bentinata, dr_willis
[09:00] <kepler> so going to the address bar and typing in smb://<server>/shared doesn't work while on wifi?
[09:00] <dr_willis> jil: i just use adduser and it always asks for a password
[09:00] <dr_willis> no idea wht the gui tool messed up
[09:01] <jil> Ok, I have a lot of problems on my fresh install. I trying to adress them one by one.
[09:02] <wildNBK> kepler, no
[09:02] <kepler> that is just weird :/
[09:03] <wildNBK> Indeed, hence why I'm here asking the question, lol
[09:03] <kepler> what router or ap are you using?
[09:03] <kepler> nvm, if you can see 139 open, it should work
[09:03] <kepler> both machines are ubuntu?
[09:04] <wildNBK> both machines are on 12.10, its a cisco wag something
[09:05] <miroesq_> I have my ubuntu server 10.04 set to automatically install security updates. how do i disable this feature?
[09:07] <dr_willis> ive seen  cases where in nautilus the smb://servername/  dosent work but smb://the.ip.of.server/  does work
[09:08] <dr_willis> could be its somehow cacheing the ip of the server when its wired. but not when its on wireless (or its using the wrong cache)
[09:13] <summeyte> Figured out what was going on with Grub and USB key not booting.
[09:14] <summeyte> At least a theory
[09:15] <summeyte> It appears the 32 Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't include support for EFI so when you try to boot from the thumb drive it is ignored
[09:15] <summeyte> The 64 bit 12.10 works fine.
[09:16] <dr_willis> never heard of that limit to 32bit ubuntu
[09:16] <dr_willis> but i basically only use 64bit these days
[09:16] <bekks> Because it does not exist.
[09:16] <dr_willis> could be a quirk of his MB/efi setup?
[09:16] <bekks> Yes.
[09:22] <tekitout> hi
[09:23] <ioria> does anyone know a possible conflict between pulseaudio and alsa in 12.04 ? thanx
[09:23] <DBoyz> How do I install flash from the tar.gz package?
[09:24] <ioria> DBoyz: flash player ?
[09:25] <DBoyz> ioria: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect
[09:26] <ioria> tar  -zxvf namepackage.tar.gz
[09:26] <jil> I was deconnected
[09:27] <DBoyz> ioria: done that part. next?
[09:28] <ioria> DBoyz: tar -zxvf namepackage ... and you'll have 1 dir and 1 file libflashplayer.so and you shuold move it in the flash plugins directory
[09:28] <jil> I lost!!   One week and I have trouble to dowload stuff like a flash player too.  I did it before without problem but this time I want to cry
[09:29] <DBoyz> yeah. that's the issue. where is the flash plugins directory?
[09:29] <ioria> DBoyz: go to /usr/lib and you should have or an abobe-flashplayer directory or a flashplugin-installer directory
[09:29] <jil> and my machine crashes more than with windows.  arg..
[09:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:30] <DBoyz> jil: sounds like you have a buggy software installed or a crappy driver
[09:31] <jil> As I was talking, nautilus crashed.   Where can I see a copy of the crash report so I study it better
[09:31] <jil> and at the same time I tryed to reinstall for the x time the flashplugin. The dowload will not even start.
[09:32] <DBoyz> jil: just download the tar.gz file manually
[09:32] <jil> DBoyz, that what I was trying to do...
[09:33] <DBoyz> and by the way i am not able to help you with the crash report
[09:33] <ioria> DBoyz: go to /usr/lib
[09:33] <jil> I agree with you that I have a buggy software.  I want to reinstall it but I need to make my dowload works perfectly .
[09:33] <jil> too
[09:33] <DBoyz> ioria: found it /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
[09:34] <jil> is there a more technical channel ?
[09:34] <ioria> DBoyz: now with the terminal sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
[09:34] <DBoyz> i am not sure (i'm still a newbie to linux)
[09:35] <bentinata> ShapeShifter499, hi
[09:35] <ioria> DBoyz: beware of the version of flash ... in my system i had to install 10 and not 11 version
[09:36] <DBoyz> jil: i tried downloading the tar.gz file on google chrome. it worked perfectly
[09:36] <jil> DBoyz, you are lucky do you know it?
[09:37] <DBoyz> jil: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.261/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz <-- this should be the link
[09:37] <daniel6644> Guys, it seems nobody in the ubuntu community know how to install bumblebee with nvidia drivers. There are 200 articles that contradict each other. is this normal with Ubunut. im new to it?
[09:37] <DBoyz> yours might be different i'm not sure
[09:38] <jil> As I'm talking nautilus crashed.  the SegvAnalysis says something about source not located in known VMA region (needed readable region)! destination ...  Is that a disk problem?
[09:38] <blez`> how to run ubuntu on a uefi device?
[09:39] <jil> DBoyz, thx but the dowload still does not start there for me
[09:39] <ioria> jil: use wget
[09:39] <DBoyz> try wget on terminal. anything?
[09:40] <jil> tried that before, same thing thx
[09:40] <jil> I think I have some big problem with my ubuntu install.  I should start by correcting that I think
[09:40] <DBoyz> jil: what about this one - http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.261.orig.tar.gz
[09:40] <ioria> jil: which address did you try ?
[09:41] <DBoyz> are you able to download anything else in the first place?
[09:42] <jil> up to know I tried both that you gave plus http://get.adobe.com/fr/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_11.2_for_other_Linux_%28.tar.gz%29_32-bit  with firefox and chromium and wget
[09:42] <DBoyz> anyways, for your crash issue, i would suggest you to remove the software. then check for disk problem
[09:43] <daniel6644> Does anybody know how to install nvidia drviers for a 675M on ubuntu?
[09:43] <jil> I have selectiv blockage. I downloaded many stuff before and I know these links will work at another time.
[09:43] <ioria> jil: there are symbols .... in the link ... try http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.261/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
[09:43] <DBoyz> jil: are you able to download any mp3 or pictures?
[09:44] <Eagleman> Is there another way to use smtpd_relay_restrictions or something similiar in postfix?
[09:44] <DBoyz> anyways, ioria: i moved the .so file to /usr/lib/flashblah
[09:44] <DBoyz> what's next?
[09:45] <ioria> DBoyz: open a youtube video
[09:47] <DBoyz> ah. worked. thanks
[09:47] <DBoyz> now time to update java
[09:47] <ioria> DBoyz: you're welcome
[09:47] <blez`> who needs java anyway
[09:47] <Lebby> hi! I have a dream :). I want to use the same pc wifi interface  (i.e wlan0 ) to connect on other AP ( that has internet ) and works as AP simultaneously. In windows I can do by a VirtualWifi/SoftAp ... how i can do it in Ubuntu?
[09:48] <DBoyz> <--
[09:50] <Eagleman> Is there another way to use smtpd_relay_restrictions or something similiar in postfix?
[09:50] <llutz> Lebby: have you tried using hostapd?
[09:52] <ioria> Eagleman: what do you wanna do exactly ?
[09:53] <Eagleman> ioria, a better question would be on how to do this:  local clients and authenticated clients may specify any destination domain.
[09:53] <llutz> Eagleman: its not implemented in the stable branch now, afaik
[09:54] <Lebby> llutz: y ... but i don't know how to connect simultaneously with same interface to internet
[09:54] <llutz> Lebby: you need to create a 2nd, virtual, device in master-mode
[09:55] <Lebby> llutz: i want this: internet<-wlan0 ( pc) -> other mobile
[09:55] <Lebby> llutz:  that's right way .... ok ! How ?
[09:56] <llutz> Lebby: what chipset? i know that old atheros chips could do it, no idea about actual/different chipsets
[09:56] <Lebby> llutz: finally i find 1 that push me on right way .... i tried it ... but i failed ... so can u give me some tips/link to create a virtual device in ubuntu?
[09:56] <Eagleman> How can i achieve this on postfix?:  local clients and authenticated clients may specify any destination domain.
[09:56] <Eagleman> :q!
[09:57] <Lebby> Eagleman:  you can do it by postfix .conf .... local_recipeints settings
[09:57] <Lebby> Eagleman:  and destination_somethin ( i don't remember .... )
[09:58] <Lebby> llutz:  i tried using iw command but i'm pretty sure that i did it wrong ... because when i launch hostap ... it crash
[09:58] <llutz> Lebby: term to search might be " multiple interface support "
[09:59] <Lebby> llutz: ty
[09:59] <llutz> Lebby: so again, what chipset/driver are you using?
[10:00] <TAFB> do they have ubuntu for the Tegra 3? http://ncix.com/products/?sku=78777
[10:00] <Lebby> llutz:  i found this: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/iw/vif/ .... It's 3 day that i'm searching! and you pushed my on good  tips!
[10:01] <Lebby> llutz:  my wifi model: Atheros AR5b93
[10:01] <Lebby> llutz: in ubuntu my driver is ath9k
[10:03] <NaGeL> Hello i would like to ask help with my ubuntu. yesterday i installed it on an old PC. installed LAMP, SAMBA  and webadmin. yesterday the webserver and  folder sharing worked with my windows 7. Today it doesnt anymore. today i installed OpenSSH-server and client andeven putty cant connect to it. there is no firewall on ubuntu
[10:04] <llutz> Lebby: i gtg, but maybe this might lead you somewhere. http://www.candelatech.com/vsta.php
[10:04] <Lebby> llutz: gtg =?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> gtg = got to go
[10:05] <Lebby> ty
[10:06] <datruth> allowing root login for ssh just how risky is that?
[10:06] <Lebby> ty to all ... i'll try all and this afternoon i'll come back to say if it works!
[10:07] <rblst> hello, Samsung SCX-3400 and Ubuntu 12.10; anybody got that to work?
[10:07]  * bentinata is away: Something is more interesting.
[10:07]  * bentinata is back (gone 00:00:02)
[10:07]  * bentinata is away: Something is more interesting.
[10:07]  * bentinata is back (gone 00:00:03)
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> !away | bentinata
[10:08] <bentinata> sorry
[10:09] <rblst> datruth: if you need to perform administrative tasks remotely via SSH, you can also use sudo if that is available, no need to log in directly as root
[10:09] <ioria> NaGel: what the error message ?
[10:09] <apextwin> Hi could somebody tell me how to change my working directory permanently so I don't have to type in " cd" every time I start terminal? I'm on xubuntu btw
[10:10] <ioria> NaGel: did you install the sshd server ? there is firewall permission on 7 ?
[10:11] <datruth> rblst: i want to sync files with rsync thats owned by another user
[10:11] <frustrated> can you install ubuntu to a DVD +/- RW and then write on the disk again when a new version comes out?
[10:11] <datruth> to another system
[10:11] <NaGeL> ioria, for samba: the server is not accsible
[10:11] <datruth> I'll try using sudo rsync command?
[10:11] <NaGeL> ioria, for putty its tmed out
[10:12] <ioria> NaGel: did you install openssh on 7 ?
[10:12] <NaGeL> ioria: no there is no firewall on linux. and yesterd the samba worked fine with windows 7
[10:12] <rblst> apextwin, edit your ~/.bash_profile and include: cd my_favorite_directory
[10:12] <NaGeL> ioria: no. i just downloaded PUTTY
[10:12] <ioria> NaGel: did you install openssh on 7 ? not on linux ..... on 7 ?
[10:12] <apextwin> where would I include it in the code? sorry I'm new
[10:13] <rblst> datruth, no that probably won't work out -- unless you allow sudo access without password, but you don't want to do that
[10:13] <ioria> NaGel: install openssh on 7 and read README for configuration. then open the firewall on 7
[10:14] <rblst> datruth, why don't you setup passwordless ssh access, though?
[10:14] <ioria> NaGel: install openssh client and server on ubuntu and run the configuration
[10:14] <NaGeL> ioria, its already instaled on Ubuntu
[10:14] <ioria> NaGel: server and client ?
[10:15] <NaGeL> ioria,  yes
[10:15] <rblst> datruth, that is, a key based authentication
[10:15] <ioria> NaGel: ps -A and check if sshd is running
[10:16] <rblst> datruth, or try creating a user with the same uid on the other machine
[10:16] <NaGeL> ioria, yes its running
[10:16] <ioria> NaGel: oh. install openssh on windows
[10:17] <NaGeL> ioria, the ssh localhost worken on the ubuntu
[10:17] <rblst> datruth, these are just random ideas, i am not sure i understand your problem exactly :)
[10:17] <ioria> NaGel: oh. install openssh on windows 7
[10:17] <NaGeL> ioria, but windows cant connect to linux at all. not even fle sharing throught samba that worked yesterday. and will do.
[10:17] <Adeeb> What is the name of the default image viewer in Ubuntu 12.04, I've been trying to stop it in the terminal using "kill" but I cannot get it's "PID" as i don't know which process it is
[10:17] <ioria> NaGel: type on Google openssh for windows 7 and install
[10:18] <bentinata> anyone use thinkpad?
[10:18] <ioria> NaGel: samba and ssh are two different protocols
[10:19] <rblst> datruth, for passwordless ssh: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152 and http://www.cs.utah.edu/~bigler/code/sshkeys.html point 4
[10:19] <NaGeL> ioria,  but my problem i that nether of them is working anymore!
[10:19] <ioria> NaGel: at first use ping to check if the two pc are on the same LAN
[10:20] <NaGeL> ioria, ping wors as wel as the webserver acces throught browser
[10:20] <NaGeL> ioria, and yes they are on the same network on the same router.
[10:21] <ioria> NaGel: good. they are on line. install openssh on 7
[10:22] <NaGeL> ioria, i just tried putty with another SSH that i have and that wrked just fine. and i installed it please quit repeating that.
[10:24] <ioria> NaGel: ok.... sorry did you run the ssh configuration on 7 ?
[10:25] <ioria> NaGel: or the correct key on putty ?
[10:25] <NaGeL> ioria, no, but just tried to acces SSH throught CMD and it worked thanks for that. Now only if i could connect with samba
[10:27] <iytrix> #synergyy
[10:29] <BWMerlin> Nvidia has updated their official driver release, how long does it take for that then to appear in the ubuntu repositories?
[10:32] <NaGeL> Can sombody help me with my SAmba and Windows 7 problem?
[10:41] <g-me> Hey folks. not specifically ubuntu question but it is running on ubuntu. I want to cron a bash script that does a few things to files then it calls a perl script to process the files.
[10:41] <anomalous> what is the commandline to upgrade all packages?
[10:41] <g-me> Works fine manually but not under cron. It fails on the perl bit.
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> NaGeL  repeat your question from time to time, but not too often and in one line
[10:41] <bazhang> !apt-get > anomalous
[10:41] <g-me> i have specificed the full patch to perl to get round crons enviromental variables
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:42] <NaGeL> Can sombody help me with my SAmba and Windows 7 problem?
[10:43] <bazhang> NaGeL, ask an actual question and see
[10:43] <bazhang> !samba | NaGeL start here
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> NaGeL  repeat your question from time to time, but not too often, with full details and in one line
[10:44] <thedoktor> hello everybody
[10:45] <NaGeL> I installed SAMBA yesterday on ubuntu and shareda folder. yesterday it worked fine. today i cant acces it anymore on windows 7. i didnt touch ssmba configuration. I'mtrying to acces it with XP now
[10:45] <cfhowlett> thedoktor, greetings
[10:45] <NaGeL> No prooblem with XP at all
[10:46] <cfhowlett> NaGeL, WAY over my head with samba type stuff but perhpaps #ubuntu-server might know?
[10:47] <NaGeL> cfhowlett, ok i check there as well
[10:47] <NaGeL> cfhowlett, thanks
[10:49] <Ben64> NaGeL: if it still works with xp, then its probably windows 7's fault
[10:49] <NaGeL> Ben64, whats at fault? because i have no idea. i havnt changed a thing on win7
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> NaGeL  some 140 people in #samba
[10:52] <wildc4rd> is there a simple way to get rid of unity and use the standard gnome interface?
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> wildc4rd  install some other DE, logout, select other DE, login
[10:52] <k1l> !notunity | wildc4rd
[10:52] <bazhang> wildc4rd, install gnome-panel
[10:55] <abgeek> how to program bar code reader program in linux ?
[10:56] <bazhang> !programming > abgeek
[10:57] <penguinman> you know, being on a windows install hurts a lot after using linux almost exclusively for the past several years
[11:02] <abgeek> how to program bar code reader program in linux ?
[11:03] <bekks> abgeek: By starting to learn a programming language first.
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> abgeek  in what programming language? better go to the appropriate channel
[11:05] <NaGeL> WTF? i can conect to it if i use the IP but not the hsot name
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> NaGeL  then it must be a DNS issue
[11:08] <NaGeL> onn windows 7 part MonkeyDust?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> NaGeL  where your DNS is located, i guess
[11:10] <abgeek> beeks : i know to program.i know c/python/c# and php..but i need an API for bar code reader..i dont wann program with hardware.i just need a library of barcode.
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> abgeek  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[11:12] <abgeek> oh..i got it frens..
[11:12] <abgeek> :)
[11:12] <srhb> Is anybody using kbdd? I'm having trouble making it work.
[11:20] <anomalous> Hello. I just freshly installed this ubuntu from the wubi windows installer. To give you a bit of background, I am an archlinux user who installed windows for gaming. Frustrated, I decided to give ubuntu a spin. Upon booting up my new ubuntu, I open  terminal and sudo apt-get install wine. This is the output:  wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed. how do I get wine to install, please?
[11:21] <Slart> anomalous: it's a regular install of version 12.10 ?
[11:21] <anomalous> Slart: yes.
[11:21] <Slart> anomalous: you've run sudo apt-get update ?
[11:22] <anomalous> running now. sorry, new to ubuntu
[11:23] <anomalous> Slart: unity seems rather unresponsive, especially when i hit the windows key for the unity menu thing. Will updating all packages likely address this?
[11:24] <anomalous> Slart: in fact, even using ubuntu software center or gnome-terminal, they fade to gray an hang for a couple seconds, very frequently
[11:24] <Slart> anomalous: hmm.. not sure.. haven't really heard of that problem before.. but things usually improve with updates
[11:24] <defekt> anomalous: updating packages is always a good start
[11:25] <anomalous> out of curiosity anyone here have EVE-Online functioning in wine on ati hardware?
[11:25] <anomalous> or EVE-Online functioning at all in wine?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  the problem is wubi
[11:25] <anomalous> MonkeyDust: elaborate?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  you're installing a windows layer inside a program that already sits in windows <- sounds conflicting
[11:27] <anomalous> MonkeyDust: is wubi not a true linux install, and some kind of nested nonsense?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  it's a pseudo-installation for testing purposes
[11:27] <Slart> "nested nonsense" is perhaps the best description of wubi I've heard in a long time =)
[11:27] <anomalous> MonkeyDust: are there viable performance gains by using another install method?
[11:28] <mokujin> hi all please give me adress channel  of  blender / для русско говорящих : дайте пожалуйста адрес канала где можно вживую обсудить блендер
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  a 'real' installation on its own partition, now it's on a space inside windows, not alongside it
[11:29] <bazhang> !alis | mokujin
[11:29] <meet> how to setup shortcuts?
[11:29] <meet> keyboard shortcuts
[11:29] <anomalous> Slart, MonkeyDust: I guess I should have phrased my question, am I running from within a windows filesystem and thus hurting my performance?
[11:29] <mokujin> !alis
[11:30] <bazhang> mokujin, ask in #freenode
[11:30] <Slart> anomalous: I'm not really sure how wubi does what it does, never used it myself
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  jokingly: wubi = will ultimately be inefficient, better read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Standard_installation
[11:31] <defekt> .m
[11:31] <anomalous> hey, 15 second firefox loadtime, woo
[11:32] <anomalous> I must admit, the only reason I decided to give ubuntu another try was the uber-cool phone os video. this wubi blunder is making me want to forget ubuntu exists again and spend the next 3 hours hacking arch back into functionality
[11:32] <Guest88969> Hi guys. Is it possible to remap the third level key (Alt gr) to Ctrl + alt?
[11:33] <petergk> anomalous: use midori :D
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  i guess wubi is below your level and skills
[11:34] <petergk> anomalous: always try to run the system natively
[11:34] <petergk> a rule in IT testing
[11:35] <anomalous> petergk: it said windows installer, not windows nested running in a file on NTFS somehow hacked into booting giving one the impression that they have an easy-peasy linux installation, where in reality they've wasted 2 hours of their birthday morning fucking with inferior trash, pardon my french
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  you're right, "windows installer" is a misleading word
[11:36] <petergk> running an operatin system on NTFS is always dirty
[11:36] <anomalous> are any devs reading this?
[11:36] <anomalous> god i hope so
[11:37] <petergk> using an OS image on an NTFS....
[11:37] <anomalous> whatever magic they used. =)
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  launchpad is the best place to suggest things for the ubuntu website, I succesfully did
[11:37] <petergk> I recommend live usb bootable comfings always
[11:38] <techouse> how do i get the system uptime only in time
[11:38] <techouse> not all the rest that uptime outputs
[11:38] <anomalous> so, to make sure i understand this,
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> techouse  with awk
[11:38] <techouse> MonkeyDust, really? substring only :P
[11:38] <anomalous> is some portion of windows kernel loaded, for loading ntfs driver to load the image?
[11:38] <techouse> lame
[11:39] <coded1> I'm using firefox 18 on lubuntu 12.10.  Is there a fix if I have video on one screen (HTML5/Flash) and I click on something on my other monitor it doesn't snap back to 'windowed' mode?
[11:39] <anomalous> or am I in some kind of deglorified VM?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> techouse  try uptime | awk '{print $1,$2}'
[11:40] <anomalous> Question: can i install natively without a CD, or usb stick?
[11:41] <techouse> what about /proc/uptime
[11:41] <bazhang> !install | anomalous have a read
[11:41] <wildc4rd> I am dual booting this PC, Debian and Ubuntu, I'm happy with ubuntu now, am I able to free up the drive by removing the debian install?
[11:42] <bazhang> wildc4rd, sure. erase the debian partition and resize for use with ubuntu/storage/whatever
[11:43] <bazhang> !gparted | wildc4rd
[11:43] <anomalous> Slart, MonkeyDust: and before i make another ublundertu, are there any problems with 32bit emul on 64bit 12.10? does flash work? does wine work? to the best of your knowledge?
[11:43] <Atum> test
[11:45] <Guest7269> Hello. On Ubuntu 12.04, using suspend with Nvidia 294 drivers causes graphic corruption when waking up, fixed by logging out and in.  What is the fix and why does this happen in Unity?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  32bit does work on 64bit hardware, but better use 64bit
[11:45] <petergk> re
[11:45] <Guest7269> This is a critical error.
[11:45] <anomalous> MonkeyDust: so, i should get a 32bit or 64bit 12.10 disk? your typing was somewhat ambiguous there
[11:46] <OerHeks> anomalous, flash works fine, but depends on your hardware, i guess
[11:46] <Guest7269> anomalous: 64 bit
[11:46] <Guest7269> 32 bit is inferior.
[11:47] <k1l> anomalous: if your hardware can handle 64 bit go for it
[11:47] <anomalous> it's also 'recommended' from the download page, and thus far ubuntu has been as practical as a brick in a dishwasher
[11:47] <Atum> Does anybody knows if the ati legacy driver has been updated to run tf2 on linux?
[11:47] <k1l> anomalous: its recommended on the downloadpage because there is still only32bit hardware out there
[11:48] <anomalous> Atum: incidentally, 12.10 will break  unity with ATI legacy drivers,
[11:48] <k1l> anomalous: so again: if your hardware is capable of 64bit go for it
[11:48] <ngomes> hello , in dpkg --get-selections i have all packages marked as "deinstall" how can i revert this ?
[11:48] <Guest7269> Why is unity broken with official drivers?
[11:49] <k1l> Guest7269: its not
[11:49] <Guest7269> k1l: It corrupts image when resuming from suspsend. Suspsend is unusable.
[11:49]  * anomalous is going to petition devs to rename distro 'ubrokentu' or 'ublundertu' or 'umadamistake'
[11:50] <k1l> Guest7269: maybe the module is not loaded right after the suspend.
[11:50] <Guest7269> What am I supposed to do?
[11:50] <Guest7269> It should just work. It works in Ubuntu 10.10
[11:50] <Atum> anomalous: It is broken with 12.04 aswell, atleast last time I checked, it was.
[11:50] <k1l> anomalous: are you here for flaming? or do you have a actual support issue?
[11:50] <Guest7269> What's the problem with unity
[11:50] <anomalous> don't mind my bitterness/sinnicism, 6:50am on my birthday, haven't slept, wubi is breaking around me, now compiz is glitching the alpha on the screen
[11:50] <k1l> anomalous: dont use wubi
[11:51] <asd__> Hi guys!. I'm using xubuntu 12.04 and have issues with sharing stuff with SMB. I used gadmin, system-config-samba and edited manually /var/lib/samba/usershares to make it work, but I can't. Goal are: share few catalogues over LAN, read-only, without password protection.  When used gui shared catalogues show up in Network tab, but were password protected, with CLI approach they didn't show up at all. Any suggestions?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> anomalous  wubi is the problem, not ubuntu
[11:51] <k1l> and if you mean alpha as in 13.04 alpha. this is not the right channel
[11:52] <anomalous> just in the process of downloading a 12.1064bit to give ubuntu one last shot before testing the viability of cdrom as frisbee
[11:52] <Guest7269> Why is Wubin hte official ISO when it doesn't work properly?
[11:52] <ManDrake> If you don't have a Super Key, is the only solution buy a new keyboard?
[11:52] <Guest7269> anomalous: what is the issue
[11:53] <k1l> Guest7269: its for testing purposes. to give windows users an easy entry.
[11:53] <helmut_> hi
[11:53] <wildc4rd> bazhang, before I start messing about, I note that the debian partition is the one flagged as boot, that was the original OS.
[11:53] <anomalous> Guest7269: Ubuntu tries to handhold which causes more harm than good
[11:53] <bazhang> wildc4rd, then you'll need to update-grub
[11:54] <bazhang> !ot | anomalous
[11:54] <anomalous> lol. now software updater is forcing me to restart, there is no button for 'restart later'. Hmmm, xkill?
[11:54] <bazhang> ManDrake, super key is the windows key
[11:55] <ManDrake> Right bazhang, my keyboard for my Linux system predates that key.
[11:55] <bazhang> anomalous, this is not the complaints/rants /chit chat channel. take it elsewhere
[11:55] <ManDrake> When I upgraded to 12.04 last night, I appear to be trapped in some sort of alternate reality now.
[11:55] <ManDrake> To open Xchat, I had to go look up the command line option for it.
[11:56] <ManDrake> And I can't find the package manager to add software anymore.
[11:56] <bazhang> ManDrake, alt f2 run menu xchat
[11:56] <k1l> ManDrake: just hit the super/windows-button and type "xchat" or even tagged words like irc should work
[11:57] <ManDrake> When I do the alt-f2 thing, it says "Sorry no matches for your search"
[11:59] <ManDrake> bazhang, I upgraded massively yesterday, 10.04 to 12.04
[12:00] <bazhang> ManDrake, are you in unity? gnome-shell, or gnome-panel <classic>
[12:01] <Squarism> has anyone found a setup with windows/ubuntu that works well.. right now im running windows only (and ubuntu at work). Would be nice to use ubuntu at home sometimes.
[12:01] <ManDrake> bazhang, I think it switched me to Unity. Everything I can find on-line seems to work.
[12:01] <ChronicleX> Squarism:  you can run ubuntu on windows as a native application
[12:02] <bazhang> ChronicleX, wubi?
[12:02] <Squarism> ChronicleX, oh.. nice.. where can i download that?
[12:02] <ChronicleX> bazhang : yup
[12:02] <ChronicleX> Squarism:  use wubi installer
[12:02] <bazhang> ChronicleX, thats not quite correct
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> Squarism  it's called wubi, a pseudo-installation, better don't start struggling with it
[12:03] <ChronicleX> bazhang : yup in terms of installation it is correct
[12:03] <bekks> ChronicleX: No, it isnt.
[12:03] <ChronicleX> but to use ubuntu we have to choose ubuntu from the boot options
[12:03] <ChronicleX> means it will be like dual booting
[12:04] <ChronicleX> bekks : how ?
[12:04] <bekks> ChronicleX: It's not dualbooting, it just starts Ubuntu from within a container file on your native windows installation.
[12:05] <ChronicleX> bekks : yeah it won't be dual booting and ubuntu will be added to windows bootloader
[12:05] <bekks> ChronicleX: Then please dont tell people it is like dualbooting ;)
[12:05] <k1l_> ChronicleX: the problem is that wubi install is tied to the windows. so if a problem in windows accurs its messing up ubunut too
[12:05] <ChronicleX> bekks :) okies
[12:05] <k1l_> ChronicleX: so its not a good choice for a replacment of a real install
[12:06] <ChronicleX> bekks : i was trying to give just simple ans. .
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> ChronicleX  another user got terribly frustrated by wubi, just minutes ago
[12:06] <ChronicleX> just didn't want to go into details
[12:06] <petergk> wubi is an image loader as I see
[12:07] <ChronicleX> MonkeyDust: i did gave it try .. yea its really frustrating but for windows people ..it can be simple as installing other apps
[12:08] <ChronicleX> k1l_:  I agree
[12:10] <Squarism> MonkeyDust, Chronicle, thanx guys
[12:10] <Ben64> why won't my laptop respond to pings from my desktop? both systems are 12.04
[12:12] <Ben64> but heres the strange part... if i ping from laptop to desktop, suddenly i can ping from desktop too
[12:12] <vlt> Ben64: Maybe they’re not in the same network? One has iptables rules that prevent it? Routing set up wrong?
[12:13] <vlt> Ben64: #2 and #3 still possible
[12:13] <Ben64> no iptables rules, same network so theres no routing going on
[12:13] <Ben64> 156 lost packets, then i ping from laptop, and it works perfectly
[12:14] <riddlebox> hello, I have an issue with unity, it is very laggy on my laptop, but on my wifes laptop it runs real smooth..I use the 64bit version on both? Would 32bit maybe work better for my laptop?
[12:15] <Ben64> riddlebox: no, you might need gpu drivers
[12:15] <k1l_> riddlebox: the grafical drivers are a problem sometimes
[12:15] <vlt> Ben64: Do you ping to the IP address directly or hostname?
[12:15] <meet_> can i install gnome session on 12.04?
[12:16] <riddlebox> I know gnome 3 works fine on it...
[12:16] <Ben64> vlt: ip
[12:16] <k1l_> !notunity | meet_
[12:17] <meet_> thanks
[12:17] <k1l_> meet_: there are 2 gnomes for you: the new shell and the fallback mode
[12:17] <vlt> Ben64: We need more details then. What does `ip r` look like? Or `ifconfig`?
[12:17] <riddlebox> is there a big difference between 32 bit and 64bit besides the ability to use 4gb of ram
[12:18] <meet_> k1l_ whats the difference?
[12:19] <Ben64> vlt: http://pastebin.com/Ebd3Yd1S
[12:19] <k1l_> meet_: gnome-shell is the new desktop from gnome and gnome-fallback ist a lookalike to the old gnome2.
[12:19] <Abhijit> riddlebox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[12:19] <k1l_> riddlebox: if your hardware can go with 64bit go for it
[12:19] <nearst> im use lxde
[12:22] <vlt> Ben64: Hmmm … looks fine. I see that it’s wlan0. Maybe your wifi router does something weird to “protect” wireless clients. Idk.
[12:25] <asd__> I'm using xubuntu 12.04 and have issues with sharing stuff with SMB. I used gadmin, system-config-samba and edited manually /var/lib/samba/usershares to make it work, but I can't. Goals are: share few catalogues over LAN, read-only, without password protection.  When used gui shared catalogues show up in Network tab, but were password protected, with cli approach they didn't show up at all. Any suggestions?
[12:27] <Benxyzzy> Xorg.0.log contains stuff like this:
[12:27] <riddlebox> Abhijit: k1l_: this is what I show as my graphics card, http://pastebin.com/u0fQfXFT
[12:27] <Benxyzzy> [    42.998] (II) evdev: Video Bus: Configuring as keyboard
[12:27] <Benxyzzy> What does this mean? As in, what's the number in the square brackets and letters/stars/dashes in the round brackets?
[12:27] <lantizia> I know 12.04 can see NTFS partitions out-of-the-box (no packages to install)... can it also see exFAT out of the box?  and if yes - which (if I had ONLY the choice of the two) am I better formatting something as for performance/stability
[12:28] <Abhijit> riddlebox, amm? graphics card has nothing to do with 32-64bit. its the processor which is either 32bit or 64 bit
[12:28] <riddlebox> Abhijit: well earlier I was told that the lag in unity could be my graphics driver...
[12:29] <Abhijit> riddlebox, it could be. using 64 bit processor for video processing is recommonded over 32 bit.
[12:29] <Abhijit> riddlebox, ask proper question with all the details.
[12:30] <riddlebox> Abhijit: when I use 64bit ubuntu unity is very laggy..I press the dash key and wait 5 seconds until it opens. I am trying to figure out what could cause the lag.
[12:31] <marcusbaird> oh  just a plug  anyone on google + go watch all the linuxreviews  at linuxreviews in google communitys   :)
[12:31] <marcusbaird> ok that will be all
[12:32] <vibhav> lantizia: http://superuser.com/questions/436368/how-to-open-exfat-ssd-in-ubuntu-12-04
[12:32] <Abhijit> riddlebox, I can not help. Don't know much about unity. But If you really do not have a strong reason to stick to unity, please take my work and switch to KDE.
[12:32] <Abhijit> word*
[12:33] <vibhav> lantizia: This should work for all Storage devices formatted with exFAT
[12:33] <crystal_decoder> updated to 64 bit in ubuntu 12.04 LTS ; now unable to play youtube videos.   want help.
[12:33] <Abhijit> no wait. do not take my word. switch on your own responsibility. riddlebox :-p
[12:33] <Abhijit> crystal_decoder, Have you installed all the flash plugins and other multimedia formats?
[12:35] <crystal_decoder> yeah . i foud adobe flash player to be installed.  infact the PC im using is college lab PC ..  i just breaked into root ..so no much idea of what all packages installed
[12:35] <qwiksilver711> i have a tough question
[12:36] <Abhijit> crystal_decoder, I am not supposed to support cracking here. Sorry.
[12:36]  * marcusbaird waits for tough question 
[12:36] <qwiksilver711> If i plug in my cyborg mmo7 mouse i cant use it to click inside windows
[12:36] <qwiksilver711> or outside windows
[12:36] <qwiksilver711> i have tried doing http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2023081
[12:36] <qwiksilver711> but that fails to solve the problem
[12:37] <qwiksilver711> I'm quite sad now
[12:37] <Davst> Hi, I'm having an issue with HDMI audio via nvidia card. With default driver the audio passthrough works fine but as soon as i install nvidia proprietary drivers i get no audio via HDMI, everything looks fine, nothing reports any errors. Anyone encountered this issue?
[12:37] <Baribal> Hi. How do I install the i386 version of lib4vl these days? I noticed that dpkg seems to be missing --add-architecture nowadays.
[12:37] <andygraybeal> about this oracle java thing, we're fine with iced tea, correct?
[12:37] <crystal_decoder> c'mon abhi, im doing it for public good :D ..... ma collegues are not able to use tutorial videos... its been too long we complained ... but no use :p
[12:37] <qwiksilver711> no suggestions?
[12:38] <Abhijit> crystal_decoder, Please contact your system administrator.
[12:38] <crystal_decoder> abhiu, u a mallu   ?
[12:38] <crystal_decoder> * keralite?
[12:39] <qwiksilver711> well thanks anyway guys
[12:39] <craigbass1976> Anyone know about how the recent Java security shenanigans applies to Openjava?
[12:39] <Abhijit> This is a second day in a single week when I am told that I am sound indian. no one ask me. everyone just 'tells' me. :-(
[12:39] <Abhijit> south*
[12:40] <Abhijit> crystal_decoder, if i would, then i would have an 'h' in the spelling. which is missing. have you noted that?
[12:40] <crystal_decoder> lol :d
[12:40] <Abhijit> crystal_decoder, you might want to join #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion
[12:40] <crystal_decoder> podey  :p
[12:41]  * Abhijit wonders what is podey
[12:41] <crystal_decoder> pooyi malayalam padichittu vaada panni
[12:42] <cfhowlett> crystal_decoder, english?
[12:42] <crystal_decoder> poda sayippe
[12:43] <marcusbaird> i think the 12.04 32 bit is really stable
[12:43] <marcusbaird> and i think if you use the 310 nidvia driver  with wine 1.5
[12:43] <marcusbaird> most windows games will work
[12:44] <crystal_decoder> malayaalikal aarum illee   ?
[12:44] <DJones> crystal_decoder: This channel is English only
[12:46] <crystal_decoder> nee poda
[12:46] <elky> crystal_decoder, you've been asked to speak english here
[12:47] <crystal_decoder> ok guys  :D
[12:47] <cfhowlett> crystal_decoder not funny and waste of channel space ...
[12:47] <crystal_decoder> so whaz the solution ?
[12:47] <crystal_decoder> any suggessions ?
[12:48] <crystal_decoder> * ss  t
[12:48] <crystal_decoder> ellarum chatho?
[12:48] <crystal_decoder> knock knock ... nybd home ?
[12:48] <andygraybeal> with oracle java problems.. does icetea have the same issue?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> crystal_decoder, state your issue in English and MAYBE we might be able to help
[12:49] <Abhijit> cfhowlett, ignore him. he asking help for a machine he has not authority to access and he has cracked that machine illegaly.
[12:49] <crystal_decoder> updated to 64 bit in ubuntu 12.04 LTS ...now unable to play youtube videos .
[12:50] <crystal_decoder> pbha panni abijithe
[12:50] <elky> crystal_decoder, enough of that. more non-english will get you kicked
[12:51] <BWMerlin> Nvidia has updated their official driver release, how long does it take for that then to appear in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> crystal_decoder, and hacking/cracking is violation of this channels rules.
[12:51] <crystal_decoder> nee podappa
[12:51] <andygraybeal> does the recent Java exploit effect OpenJDK?
[12:52] <Abhijit> andygraybeal, just a min
[12:52] <andygraybeal> Abhijit, awesome bro thanks
[12:52] <andygraybeal> i'm readin gthis right now: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/attackers-pounce-on-zero-day-java-exploit/
[12:52] <Abhijit> andygraybeal, see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/240185/is-openjdk-vulnerable-to-0-day-exploit and this http://askubuntu.com/questions/240192/are-we-affected-by-the-java-vulnerability-are-all-applets-affected
[12:52] <andygraybeal> thanks brother
[12:53] <rock> ggfffffffff
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> rock  it works, you're in
[12:54] <rock> crystal decoder .. ur question was gr8..... but alas u r logged out  :(
[12:54] <rock> pannikalee.... im back .. in all ma glorry
[12:55] <rock> mallu anjd proud
[12:55] <alami> hello, any here use freecall at ubuntu?
[12:55] <rock> *and
[12:56] <Abhijit> alami, i used it
[12:56] <alami> Abhijit: how?? :D
[12:56] <nearst> ouch
[12:57] <Abhijit> alami, read the read me. it contains the java code for run freecall.
[12:57] <alami> Abhijit: i have read befor asking here
[12:57] <Abhijit> alami, did you not found the java code to run the freecal?
[12:57] <alami> no :(
[12:59] <nearst> freecall like solitairs one?
[13:00] <alami> Abhijit: do you know wich freecall that i mean?
[13:01] <Abhijit> alami, the civilization game?
[13:01] <Davst> Hi I'm having trouble getting audio output via HDMI with nvida drivers, can anyone help me figure out whats wrong?
[13:02] <Baribal> Abhijit, freeciv?
[13:03] <alami> Abhijit:no i mean freecall.com
[13:03] <alami> client for ubuntu
[13:03] <Abhijit> Baribal, there also one callled as freecal
[13:03] <Abhijit> alami, no idea about that
[13:03] <nearst> !freecal | alami
[13:03] <alami> :(
[13:04] <alami> on the web site i there is only mac and windows client
[13:04] <alami> i don't like to emulate
[13:04] <nearst> ouh. sip one
[13:04] <Baribal> How do install the i386 package of libv4l0 while my main architecture is amd64?
[13:04] <nearst> u can run, using wine?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> Baribal  ia32-multiarch
[13:05] <nearst> Baribal, download i386 package
[13:05] <floogy> Hi I got fixating issues with wodim on writuing an iso.image to a dvd teac BD-W512S-A
[13:06] <Davst> Hi I'm having trouble getting audio output via HDMI with nvida drivers, can anyone help me figure out whats wrong?
[13:06] <Abhijit> hey guys. the freecal game is just disappeared from the internet. i can not find any reference anywhere? am i missing something?
[13:07] <floogy> The burner is now unreponsive. If I press the eject button nothing happens and wodim --device no longer work http://paste.ubuntu.com/1523554/
[13:07] <Abhijit> Baribal, alami Confusion was due to same pronounciation. I thought you are talking about this http://www.freecol.org/
[13:08] <floogy> Ah, ok the drive reapears now with wodim --devices, but it's still unreponsive.
[13:08] <Baribal> Okay, downloaded the i386 package, tried dpkg -i: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured    So is there a way to install it through apt?
[13:08] <alami> i mean freecall.com phone software
[13:08] <floogy> eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> Baribal  guess you have to install ia32-libs-multiarch
[13:09] <Baribal> Thanks...
[13:09] <Abhijit> alami, why not ask them?
[13:09] <alami> no irc channel
[13:09] <alami> but i will try my best with another client
[13:10] <Abhijit> email, forum, etc
[13:10] <alami> yes i will try
[13:10] <alami> then don't have good support
[13:10] <floogy> dmesg gives now ASC errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/1523569/
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Davst, hdmi relies on alsa/ pulseaudio to transfer the signal from the onboard soundcard , usually no special drivers are needed
[13:11] <userlain> Is there a difference in repositry availability between Ubuntu/Kubuntu and Xubuntu/Lubuntu?
[13:12] <Marlinc> No
[13:12] <Marlinc> It uses the same repositories
[13:12] <cfhowlett> userlain, same repos but different default packages
[13:12] <Marlinc> Jup
[13:12] <Davst> BluesKaj: I get audio via HDMI with the non-prorietary nvidia drivers, its when i install the proprietary drivers that it dissapears
[13:13] <userlain> So they would all be able to install the same software, there wouldn't be any limitation?
[13:13] <asd__> depends
[13:13] <userlain> Hmm.
[13:13] <asd__> if qt in on kubuntu it will obtain much more packages
[13:13] <asd__> in non kubuntu sorry
[13:14] <userlain> I am running Kubuntu 12.04.1 right now, and it is working geat.
[13:14] <userlain> *great.
[13:14] <userlain> But I am running it on a Celeron laptop from 2008, and this machine has 1GB of ram.
[13:14] <userlain> So... resources are limited.
[13:15] <nearst> use antiX
[13:15] <userlain> Kubuntu is suprisingly quick, but I'm wondering if my user experience would be better on Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[13:15] <Abhijit> userlain, use lxde or xfce
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> atix is nice, i have it in virtualbox
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Davst, you have to setup your audiuo outputs to use the (I'm assuming here) pci graphics to tramsfer the audio from alsa , I use pavucontrol to make thast connection
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> antix*
[13:16] <nearst> !pavucontrol | Davst
[13:16] <Davst> Blues: well its the same SPDIF since its a 9800GT which has a spdif piggyback
[13:17] <Davst> BluesKaj: the spdif digital output still shows up in ubuntu and so. I just dont get any sound anmore
[13:18] <cfhowlett> userlain, both are official repos and xubuntu is also the foundation of ubuntu studio.  xubuntu is arguably the more mature of the two distros.  I've 've xfce and lxde and found little difference is operating speeds
[13:18] <cfhowlett> userlain, that said, you can install lxde or xfce on your vanilla ubuntu and test them youself
[13:18] <BluesKaj> yes Davst what's your audio chip in alasamixer ?
[13:19] <phong_> how to make a link shortcut in ubuntu
[13:19] <phong_> this way if i sftp to ubuntu i dont have to go thru all dirs
[13:19] <nearst> shortcut to where? / ?
[13:19] <phong_> let say i have /mnt/blablablalb/balblabl
[13:19] <phong_> to some shoortcut name simple
[13:19] <Guest57983> jyjj
[13:19] <phong_> myshortcut = /mnt/bla/blal/bal
[13:20] <Davst> BluesKaj: Card HDA NVidia and chip is Realtek ALC662 rev1
[13:20] <phong_> so if i cd myshortcut bring me to what ever i assigned to it
[13:20] <nearst> !ln | phong_
[13:21] <nearst> ln -s
[13:22] <userlain> Is the difference between a x.04 to x.10 release just the default packages?
[13:22] <userlain> Besides x.04 usually being LTS?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Davst, run , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , there will be no output from that command if the kernel module loads properly . We have to make sure driver/module is loaded by using that command, then reboot
[13:24] <Davst> BluesKaj: one sec
[13:25] <nearst> lsmod
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> userlain  every 2 years, .04 is an LTS
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> userlain  find reviews to see 'what's new' in the different releases
[13:27] <Baribal> userlain, also, not just the default packages, but available packages too. I.e. 12.10 comes with MAAS, in case you want to build a datacenter.
[13:29] <bentinata> what command you use to wait?
[13:30] <Davst> BluesKaj: loaded the module, no feedback, rebooted.. still nothing =/
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Davst,  have you installed pavucontrol ?
[13:33] <Davst> BluesKaj: yeah
[13:33] <jabba_> hello
[13:34] <BluesKaj> did you setup the output to use spdif , Davst ?
[13:35] <jabba_> just tried to prevent my system from loading ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd and xhcd_hcd at boot. so i added these modules to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, did a update-initramfs -u and rebootet. but: modules where still loaded.
[13:35] <Davst> BluesKaj: yeah
[13:35] <jabba_> any idea?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> if so Davst , you should change it to hdmi if the option is there
[13:36] <Davst> BluesKaj: only SPDIF available (probably since the card only supports piggybacking the onboard sound spdif out to the hdmi)
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> jabba_  ubuntu server?
[13:37] <jabba_> MonkeyDust: yes
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> jabba_  they have their own channel    #ubuntu-server
[13:37] <bentinata> what command use to wait?
[13:37] <jabba_> MonkeyDust: is that so much difference?
[13:37] <llutz> bentinata: sleep, wait
[13:38] <Davst> BluesKaj: tbh I'm starting to consider buying a newer gfx card that has a on graphics card soundcard, this piggyback thing is not working at all
[13:38] <bentinata> llutz, sipp
[13:38] <Davst> BluesKaj: (with the proprietary drivers that is)
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> jabba_  they are more skilled in dealing with networks and hosts etc
[13:40] <Davst>  Any suggestion for a hw accelereated htpc graphics card that works well with HDMI audio under ubuntu?
[13:41] <nubley> Why does busybox implement ssh?
[13:41] <nearst> for secure login
[13:41] <nearst> !ssh | nubley
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Davst, let me describe my setup , I use an nvidia graphics card using the nvidia-current driver which can take the audio and send it down the hdmi ...your use of proprietrary might be the problem
[13:42] <llutz> nubley: do they, usually dropbear is used
[13:42] <Davst> BluesKaj: eh.. nvidia-current is the proprietary driver i mean
[13:42] <Davst> BluesKaj: considering its closed source and from nvidia.
[13:42] <nubley> Thanks
[13:43] <Davst> BluesKaj: difference seems that i have audio passthrough and not a actual soundcard on the gfxcard like the newer ones do
[13:44] <Davst> BluesKaj: thanks for the help, I'm just gonna try tossing in a cheap newer htpc card from nvidia.. running to the store =P might be back later =)
[13:45] <BluesKaj> BBL ...stuff to do
[13:51] <yaman> hello gyz.. i need some help with ubuntu...
[13:52] <yaman> i want to install back track tools on ubuntu and for that i have downloaded some script.. but in terminal while i try to access it shows no such file or directory foung help pls
[13:54] <Free99> hey everyone. Having an issue with an old library that is no longer in the repositories. I need to run Pro/Engineer 3 on 12.04 x64, but it depends on libgtk1.2 for the i386
[13:54] <yaman>  i want to install back track tools on ubuntu and for that i have downloaded some script.. but in terminal while i try to access it shows no such file or directory found
[13:55] <ichat> Free99:  - so download the libs source and compile it agains your new system ;
[13:55] <Free99> ichat: ok. I've compiled stuff before, but do I need to do any special prefix commands on the ./configure or anything?
[13:56] <Free99> also, it needs to be 32 bit
[13:56] <Free99> despite my being on a 64 bit system
[13:56] <ichat> Free99 - hmmz that makes stuf more interesting... i dont know
[13:57] <ichat> i would suspact that youd have to have  32bit base packages / runtimes than as well - but my knowledge doesn go that for
[13:58] <Free99> ichat: well, the plus side is that the 32-bit libs work except for one package, specifically libgtk1.2-common... it says it will work for all archs, but the libgtk1.2:i386 claims it can't find it (I think because it's not i386 specific)
[14:00] <Free99> I'm sorry, I should be more specific: libgtk1.2-common is depended on by libgtk1.2:i386. but the common is for all architectures, and libgtk1.2:i386 says that common cannot be found
[14:00] <Free99> so ichat: where do I get the source for this? on launchpad?
[14:01] <ichat> free  i supposed that you would have to  isntalled them in a diferent   path from the ubuntu  packages and  during compling you might need do  change the vars accordingly...
[14:02] <ichat> free usually  compling stuff  you would have to define where the dependancies are  if not in default location ... thats probably why it couldnt find them
[14:04] <Free99> ichat: ok. I'll try working on this. I found the source on launchpad. Thanks
[14:04] <yaman>  i want to install back track tools on ubuntu and for that i have downloaded some script.. but in terminal while i try to access it shows no such file or directory found
[14:06] <yaman> is anyone out there.. i am new to xchat pls help me with my problem
[14:06] <bekks> yaman: Then ask the author of that script. :)
[14:07] <yaman> in youtube video it works fine... but when i tried in system i got an error msg...
[14:07] <asd__> any suggestions for convienient xdcc client for ubuntu? xchat is not so
[14:07] <herlaziness> Hi need help.  When I am rebooting from 3.5.0-19-generic, I can boot in to the desktop, but when I reboot using 3.5.0-21-generic, it hangs somewhere after battery check
[14:08] <ichat> xdcc -   is a  mirc thing ...
[14:08] <herlaziness> any help will appreciate, thanks in advance
[14:08] <nearst> how
[14:09] <yaman> how to login as root...?
[14:09] <nearst> sudo
[14:09] <yaman> i have an admin accoutn...
[14:09] <Free99> yaman: sudo -i
[14:09] <nearst> !sudo | yaman
[14:09] <yaman> i run some commands using sudo.... i mean is there any way to login to ubuntu... so that it wont ask again....
[14:10] <bekks> yaman: sudo -i
[14:10] <asd__> ichat: xhcat is capable of xdcc, but it isn't very intuitive
[14:10] <yaman> thanks bekks that was what i wanted.. thank you
[14:11] <yaman> bekks: do you have any idea how to install backtrack tools on ubuntu
[14:11] <yaman> 12.10
[14:11] <bekks> !backtrack | yaman
[14:11] <yaman> i know about backtrack....
[14:12] <yaman> i used to run it in windows machine using vmware.... but it couldnot detect wifi....
[14:12] <zyngawow> Can anyone help me with WiFi on my Dell Vostro 1320 on Ubuntu? It doesnt recognise any networks
[14:12] <yaman> so i have ubuntu now.. and that backtrack was vmware compatible so...
[14:13] <bekks> ...it doesnt make backtrack supported in here :) And we have no clue about their tools nor about the requirements of their tools.
[14:13] <BluesKaj> yaman, as far as this room is concerened backtrack or any of it's apps aren't supported here ...get the message ?
[14:13] <nearst> !iw | zyngawow
[14:13] <zyngawow> !iw
[14:13] <zyngawow> nothing happens!
[14:13] <yaman> ok ok.. i am new .....
[14:14] <nearst> zyngawow, try iwconfig then
[14:14] <user1_> just got 12.10 , but when i open firefox my cpu becomes noisy and when flash opens it really becomes shaky.  for a netbook is ubuntu a bad option than fedora
[14:14] <yaman> anyways thanks for the reply...
[14:14] <marahin> user1_, go chrome
[14:14] <user1_> marahin: are you sure?
[14:14] <zyngawow> eth0: no wireless extensions, lo: no wireless extensions
[14:14] <nearst> yaman ge3k ftw
[14:14] <yaman> one more thing.. whats the command to change directoy...
[14:14] <marahin> try it at least
[14:14] <yaman> directory
[14:14] <zyngawow> nearst
[14:14] <bekks> yaman: cd
[14:14] <marahin> yaman, [c]hange [d]irectoryu
[14:15] <nearst> nearst, lsmod, check your wireless module
[14:15] <BWMerlin> anyone had experience installing the nvidia drivers for linux straight from the nvidia website?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> BWMerlin  about everyone, better use ubuntu's nvidia drivers (i have intel myself)
[14:16] <zyngawow> nearst, I dont see any wireless module there
[14:17] <user1_> i think i will erase ubuntu and go with fedora and slackware - ubuntu is making my ssd disk and 8GB memory on netbook really shaky. hope threading and overclocking does not happen with slackware
[14:18] <BWMerlin> MonkeyDust: I currently do but nvidia have released newer drivers and no-one has answered my question as to how long it takes for them to appear in the ubuntu repository
[14:18] <nearst> zyngawow, what wireless hardware u have ? sudo apt-get install iw && iw phy
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> BWMerlin  maybe because nobody knows
[14:18] <nearst> user1_, try nomodeset at grub option
[14:18] <himanshu_linux> hi
[14:18] <zyngawow> nearst, BCM4312
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> user1_  that's the freedom of choice in linux - distro's not what you want? try another
[14:19] <himanshu_linux> i am not able to make a wifi hotspot. i am using ubuntu 12.04
[14:19] <zyngawow> nearst, iw phy -> nl80211 not found.
[14:20] <himanshu_linux> how to make a wifi hotspot ??
[14:20] <user1_> nearst : http://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do
[14:20] <nearst> zyngawow, sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:20] <zyngawow> nearst, :) will do
[14:21] <nearst> user1_, ?
[14:21] <herlaziness> how do I know which graphic drivers I am using?
[14:21] <llutz> himanshu_linux: http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point/
[14:22] <user1_> MonkeyDust:  my system's noise has become untolerable.  do you know which actually is very strict when it comes to keeping the CPU fan ram and kernel healthy and noise free.  slackware or fedora?
[14:22] <user1_> nearst: i mean he says it wont start
[14:23] <nearst> user1_, idk what ur problem in detail. it cloudy case
[14:24] <ChronicleX> same prob here user1
[14:24] <BluesKaj> herlaziness, sudo lshw -C video| grep driver or , glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:24] <nearst> herlaziness, jockey-text -l
[14:24] <zyngawow_> nearst, bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version
[14:24] <himanshu_linux> llutz : ok seeing the link
[14:24] <user1_> nearst : noise. it seems my cpu is tortured by flash and firefox . it suddenly makes noise like it's taking off the runway
[14:25] <bekks> user1_: RAM is there to be used. Non-used RAM is wasted RAM. :)
[14:25] <ChronicleX> very noisy sys.  harddisk , cpu keeps makin un tolerable  noise
[14:27] <ChronicleX> any suggestion regarding reducing noise atleast to some extent?
[14:27] <insertable> ssd
[14:28] <lionrouge> hi
[14:28] <ChronicleX> lionrouge hi
[14:28] <lionrouge> i had Ubuntu 12.10. Then reinstalled Windows 7 (it erased grub). Then i tried to repair it and it's going weird
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ChronicleX, most likely your cooling fans
[14:29] <insertable> My hdd was getting really noisy, booting the laptop was taking 4 1/2 minutes. Switched to ssd I get no noise and 19 second boot time. nice
[14:29] <foggyspider> hi
[14:29] <lionrouge> i don't like grub 2 cause i can't easily edit it's config
[14:30] <lionrouge> now i have 2 groups of ubuntu related entries in my grub list
[14:30] <insertable> lionrouge, yeah Windows takes over the MBR
[14:30] <lionrouge> and the first (the old one) oesn't work
[14:30] <insertable> You should install windows first, then Linux
[14:30] <lionrouge> otherwise there is smth. wronh with the disks
[14:30] <ChronicleX> BluesKaj:  cooling fans works fine ..  i've been running same laptop for 2 years
[14:31] <ChronicleX> this problem arose some day back ..
[14:31] <lionrouge> in /etc/fstab all lines are commented
[14:31] <ChronicleX> don't know what happend .. i checked out fans, hdd, ram.
[14:31] <lionrouge> and there are disks in /media that are indicated with long ASCII rubbish
[14:31] <ChronicleX> didn't find anything suspicious
[14:32] <zyngawow_> nearst, I did what you said. Same.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> lionrouge, http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Configuration%20File%20Commands.html
[14:32] <lionrouge> i used this guide to repair grub: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repairrestorereinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ChronicleX, checked the power settings etc?
[14:33] <davidloo> hello
[14:34] <ChronicleX> Bluekaj:  yes .. i did. .. ..it happens specially in ubuntu .. i'm running mint as an alternative (dual boot)
[14:34] <user1_> i have got ssd but it's noise has added. i dont know if it's cpu or ram or ssd but there are two noises.
[14:34] <iLogical> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1523809/  how is it possible that I have two partitions with 1TB? I have only 1TB of memory
[14:34] <nearst> zyngawow_, try with proprietary driver?
[14:34] <user1_> grub is so bad that when you type halt it hangs!!!!
[14:34] <bekks> user1_: Does your RAM has a cooler?
[14:35] <zyngawow_> nearst, it also doesnt work..
[14:35] <user1_> bekks : RAM cooler now what's that? i have one fan
[14:35] <bekks> iLogical: You have 1TB space, not RAM.
[14:35] <bekks> user1_: So your RAM cant make any noise...
[14:35] <iLogical> that's what i meant
[14:36] <user1_> bekks : and what's this take on and take off the runway sound. who's making it.
[14:36] <swissbox> .
[14:36] <bekks> iLogical: An extended partition is a container. It contains a logical partition.
[14:36] <ChronicleX>  user1_  : maybe ur hdd?
[14:36] <bekks> user1_: The cooler.
[14:36] <nomnex> swissbox, get out of here
[14:36] <swissbox> how?
[14:36] <nearst> zyngawow_, check on http://askubuntu.com/questions/127633/how-do-i-get-a-broadcom-bcm4313-wireless-card-working
[14:36] <iLogical> ok
[14:37] <swissbox> .
[14:37] <user1_> bekks: you mean the fan? why is it making it. why is ubuntu telling it to move faster. the room is already chilled.
[14:37] <altair> ciao a tutti. esiste un programma come riot per windows da poter utilizzare invece su ubuntu o cmq su una distro linux? riot permette di ridurre formato e dimensione di una serie di immagini in maniera del tutto automatica e applicando le modifiche per tutti i files contenuti in una cartella o selezionati.
[14:38] <anomalous> Hello.
[14:38] <bekks> user1_: The fan is a mechanical component. Due to the speed of the rotation it produces an airflow which is audible as "noise".
[14:38] <anomalous> what ATI driver does ubuntu 12.10 64bit use, by default?
[14:38] <bekks> user1_: Do you know what a cooler is for?
[14:38] <ChronicleX> bekks : but how can we adjust its speed manually? is there any way to control those fans?
[14:38] <user1_> bekks: no. where is it located. can we remove it?
[14:39] <insertable> user1_, you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com/lm-sensors and http://packages.ubuntu.com/fancontrol to control the fans
[14:39] <bekks> user1_: Removing it will result in overheating your CPU which result in breaking it.
[14:39] <user1_> bekks: so cooler is different from fan and only ubuntu handles it!
[14:39] <niko-nojo> Hi room, I'm having an issue on Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS -   A process called mount.ntfs is consuming ~97% of the CPU . I can't figure out what to do even after trying the suggestions on the Internet. Can anyone help ?
[14:40] <lionrouge> well i can now localize the problem
[14:40] <lionrouge> ubuntu doesn't recognize new Windows 7 partitions properly
[14:40] <bekks> user1_: Nowadays a "cooler" consists of a passive cooling component and an active fan component.
[14:40] <anomalous> what ATI driver does ubuntu 12.10 64bit use, by default?  Additionally, this would be mesa, yes? how do I disable vertical sync with mesa in ubuntu 12.10?
[14:40] <nearst> !grub | lionrouge
[14:40] <bekks> user1_: And normally, your computer, using ACPI, handles it.
[14:41] <mkv_> can anyone help me
[14:41] <mkv_> :36] <mkv> Hello, i recently installed medibuntu and the w32codecs, but since then I cant play mkv anymore, and for some videos the time seems to be crooked, any help, how to fix this ? [15:36] <mkv> its lucid, i know i will upgrade soon [15:37] <xiaoy> mkv install vlc and see if you can play mkv vids with that [15:38] <mkv> i already have this installed, it used to play it w/o problems, but since i installed the above, nothing happens,
[14:42] <user1_> bekks: why does it have to make noise . it only happens with flash and browser
[14:42] <freeaks> where can i get help with ubuntu 13.04 (kernel 3.8) to have my intel gfx chip working ? i only have nvidia with nouveau right now and i want to use the intel discrete chip
[14:42] <yeats> freeaks: #ubuntu+1
[14:42] <freeaks> yeats, thanks
[14:42] <insertable> niko-nojo, ntfs is a windows filesystem (could be a windows partition or even a usb drive formatted as ntfs) - do you have anything mounted like that?
[14:42] <bekks> user1_: Because flash and stuff are CPU-intensive tasks which lead to a higher temperature which leads to higher airflow to cool it down again. Thus the higher noise.
[14:43] <insertable> niko-nojo, typing 'mount' in a terminal will tell you what you currently have mounted and where
[14:43] <ChronicleX>  /join #ubuntu+1
[14:43] <ChronicleX> :X
[14:45] <niko-nojo> insertable - results of mount noel@ubuntu:~$ mount
[14:45] <niko-nojo> /dev/loop0 on / type ext3 (rw)
[14:45] <niko-nojo> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[14:45] <niko-nojo> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[14:45] <niko-nojo> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[14:45] <niko-nojo> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[14:45] <FloodBot1> niko-nojo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <Danic> Hi! Please tell me how I can speed up my scroll wheel! On a 1200p display, one line scrolling is terrible!!
[14:45] <Hyperbyte> I have a Ubuntu machine where I have a /data mount with all files, there's also /data/home which I mount --bind to /home.  On startup, however, Ubuntu seems to want to mount /home/ before /data/ is mounted over NFS
[14:46] <Hyperbyte> Any solutions for this?
[14:47] <niko-nojo> insertable - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1523846/ , output from mount
[14:48] <user1_> bekks : going for mint 14 xfce
[14:48] <user1_> looks very prmising
[14:48] <blackthor> Hyperbyte:  is the order in  /etc/fstab  correct ?
[14:49] <user1_> how do i check if my system is 64 bit or not? bekks
[14:49] <blackthor> user1_ uname -a ?
[14:50] <user1_> blackthor : Linux user1 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:32:08 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[14:50] <mkv_> Hello, i recently installed medibuntu and the w32codecs, but since then I cant play mkv anymore, and for some videos the time seems to be crooked, any help, how to fix this ? [15:36] <mkv> its lucid, i know i will upgrade soon
[14:50] <mkv_> well the problem is that i tried several things (medibuntu, w32codecs) before i installed smplayer, then i could play wmvs (i did the changes because there was a wmv that i couldnt play, otherwmvs were playble) [15:47] <mkv> smplayer seemed the solution for this wmv i couldnt play [15:47] <mkv> but it crooked mkv playing i guess [15:48] <mkv> reinstall vlc was no good, i now tried
[14:50] <user1_> blackthor: but isn't it 32 bit of OS. how do i check for kernel support as to if it supports 64 bit or not
[14:51] <sgt-hagger> Hey guys, I installed steam on Linux Mint and It launches but crashes when I open the friends list
[14:51] <BluesKaj> mkv_, is this a 64bit machine ?
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> !mint | sgt-hagger
[14:52] <BluesKaj> mkv_, and have you installed , ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[14:52] <Hyperbyte> blackthor, yeah... using a symlink instead of a mount bind seems to fix it though.
[14:53] <Hyperbyte> I'm just not sure what other problems might arise from /home being a symlink
[14:53] <sgt-hagger> MonkeyDust: Can I get on that network from filezilla?
[14:53] <mkv_> BluesKaj, no 64bit, yes ubuntu-restricted extras
[14:54] <Danic> Hi! Please tell me how I can speed up my scroll wheel. On a 1200p display, one line scrolling is terrible, and I am going bonkers over here! =[
[14:54] <Tex_Nick> using 12.10 gnome classic ... prior to unity we were able to hover cursor over a sound file icon and the file would begin playing, to preview it ... is there a way to restore that functionality
[14:54] <mkv_> BluesKaj, mkvs were playable until i nstalled medibuntu and smplayer
[14:55] <BluesKaj> which player mkv_ ?
[14:55] <mkv_> BluesKaj, maybe i culd ruin a 64bit system, im not sure, but my ubuntu is 32bit
[14:55] <mkv_> BluesKaj, vlc and totem used to play mkvs, without problems
[14:56] <BluesKaj> mkv_, 32bit is fine ..no need to change quite yet
[14:56] <mkv_> BluesKaj, vlc and totem used to play mkvs, without problems
[14:56] <BluesKaj> vlc should play mkv
[14:56] <mkv_> i know
[14:56] <mkv_> it did
[14:57] <mkv_> mkv_> i know [15:56] <mkv_> it did, mkv_> i know [15:56] <mkv_> it did, BluesKaj
[14:57] <anomalous> what ATI driver does ubuntu 12.10 64bit use, by default?  Additionally, this would be mesa, yes? how do I disable vertical sync with mesa in ubuntu 12.10?
[14:58] <sgt-hagger> How do I access irc.spotchat.org on filezilla?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> have you updated/upgraded your sources lately , mkv_ ? besides adding medibuntu?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> sgt-hagger  i'm not familiar with filezilla
[14:59] <sgt-hagger> MonkeyDust: opps sorry I eman chatzilla
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> sgt-hagger  surf to irc.spotchat.org and enter #linuxmint-help
[15:00] <mkv_> BluesKaj, followed the instructions on medibuntu howto install, then followed some lucid-instructions dor the w32codecs, then installed smplayer. i did all of this to play an unplayble wmv, successfully, but it crooked up mkv, and the display of the  correct time for some files
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> sgt-hagger  then conncet to the spotchat server and go to #linuxmint-help
[15:00] <mkv_> BluesKaj, i enabled the medibuntu extras, then updated, i think is what i did
[15:03] <BluesKaj> mkv_, the w32codecs should be default if I'm not mistaken ...why did you have to add them ?
[15:05] <mkv_> BluesKaj, i did this for an unplayble wmv, gave an error, thats why. I enabled medibuntu non-free lucid source
[15:06] <mkv_> BluesKaj, i see that i actually enabled it twice (?), wait ill send screensshot
[15:07] <BluesKaj> mkv_, are you on lucid ?
[15:07] <mkv_> BluesKaj, yes i still am, will upgrade soon
[15:07] <angs> here is my /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/Be3zte4X  when I uncomment line 13 and 14 then reboot my pc, wlan0 interface does not work. I can only get the wlan0 interface when I uncomment it. What's wrong with it?
[15:08] <mkv_> http://www.pixhost.org/show/2019/15562551_screenshot-software-sources.png, BluesKaj
[15:08] <compdoc> angs, maybe network manager is managing it?
[15:09] <angs> compdoc, I am new on linux. I need to those settings for eth0, do I need to uninstall the network manager. what would be your suggestion?
[15:10] <pedxing> Whats guys!
[15:11] <pedxing> Whats up guys!  I'm pedxing!
[15:11] <foggyspider> hi
[15:11] <pedxing> sup!
[15:11] <ChronicleX> pedxing : yeah we can SEE you :)
[15:12] <mkv_> BluesKaj, do you think i messed it up?
[15:12] <pedxing> LOL
[15:12] <compdoc> angs, I havent use netowrk manager in years, but before removing it, you should try opening it, writing down the settings, and try deleting the wireless connection in there. The, uncomment the lines. Otherwise, why not keep it the way it is?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> pedxing  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[15:12] <pedxing> Ok
[15:14] <sgo11> anyone know a good youtube vimeo downloader website which is similar to savevideo.me? thanks.
[15:14] <mkv_> sources problem, crooked mkv play, can anyone help?
[15:15] <pedxing> is everybody in this chat from Jersey?
[15:15] <Aufwind> I need a little assistance to costumize my terminal, dear ubuntu comunity. I used this line export PS1='\u@\h\W: ' (from askubuntu.com) in my ~/.bashrc with the goal to see my login "name@host - current_directory: somehow the current directory is not shown. I do only see myname@host: Does someone know where the error is?
[15:16] <llutz> Aufwind: \w lowercase w
[15:16] <Aufwind> llutz, I'll try thet momentarely , thanks
[15:17] <user1_> nobody told me how to check if my cpu can support 64 bit or not
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> user1_  uname -m
[15:17] <Aufwind> llutz, It seems to work, althought not as expected. It shows me the whole path from my home directory to my current working directory. Isn't it possible to only show the current directory I am currently in?
[15:17] <ShawnRisk> I am having internet connection problems with Ubuntu 12.10 and have done: http://singcheong.blogspot.ca/2011/07/unlock-bells-2wire-2701hg-g-adsl-modem.html but the same internet problems keep happening.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:18] <sgo11> I always lost my ssh connection to a remote computer. maybe due to slow connection speed? not sure. I have to killall ssh and reconnect all the time. are there any ways to prevent this happen? thanks.
[15:18] <user1_> MonkeyDust: it gives i686. that's of ubuntu OS which i recently . i got 64 bit windows pre installed. so what should i understand
[15:18] <llutz> Aufwind: PS1="\u@\h:\W\$ "
[15:19] <llutz> Aufwind: \w == current directory (pwd), \W == last part of current directory only
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> user1_  try sudo dmidecode -t processor
[15:19] <Aufwind> llutz what is the dollar for?
[15:19] <pedxing> After updating software in Ubuntu 12.04 my wireless connection conks out after rebooting.
[15:19] <sgo11> The thing is I can reconnect the remote computer at any time. if I don't reconnect, my old ssh session is hung and not usable. thanks.
[15:19] <D-coy> o/
[15:19] <mkv_> for mkvs: totem gives could not determine type of stream, any clue? edited some sources lately...
[15:19] <llutz> Aufwind: \$ == $ when user, # when being root
[15:19] <Aufwind> llutz, ah I see it is just some kimnd of marker. Thank you sir. :-)
[15:20] <user1_> MonkeyDust: and check which one? its so long
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> user1_  very last line '64 bit capable' or not ?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> user1_, or  sudo dmidecode -s processor-version
[15:20] <Aufwind> llutz, Awesome, works like a charm. Now I like my terminal a bit more. :-)
[15:21] <llutz> Aufwind: some more info on vars/special charshttp://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Bash/Prompt
[15:21] <llutz> Aufwind: some more info on vars/special chars http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Bash/Prompt
[15:21] <user1_> MonkeyDust: Characteristics:		64-bit capable
[15:21] <Aufwind> llutz, Thank you, I will check this out.
[15:21] <user1_> MonkeyDust:  ok then i can go for 64 bit mint xfce.
[15:22] <llutz> Aufwind: hint: don't make it too fancy, it gets boring after a while and confuses more than it helps
[15:22] <Aufwind> llutz, I only want it to be as clear as possible.
[15:23] <bfri> i cant get past password protection from the windows end of my shared net work with 12.10 i have access from windows but not from 12.10 thoughts
[15:23] <llutz> Aufwind: well, then the PS1 from above should be fine
[15:23] <Aufwind> llutz, So I can see instantely where I am. The reason I started fiddling with this was, that it started to enerve me, that when I was in let's say 5th level of a directory tree i had no place to type anymore.
[15:23] <user1_> MonkeyDust:  do we have a 12.1 xfce instead of gnome. can i try it once
[15:23] <Aufwind> llutz, Thanks again for your help!
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> user1_  other: sudo lshw|grep 64
[15:24] <user1_> MonkeyDust: i think the first one was perfect thanks
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> user1_  yes, sudo apt-get install lxde
[15:26] <user1_> MonkeyDust: ok i will try this before going to mint. thanks and goodnight
[15:27] <pedxing> After updating software in Ubuntu 12.04 my wireless connection conks out after rebooting.  Any ideas?
[15:28] <disharmonic> Hey
[15:30] <angs> how can I use both wired and wireless interfaces on my laptop. When I configure the wired interface my wireless connection disconnects, or vice a versa. I followed the instruction here http://askubuntu.com/questions/10741/how-to-set-up-dual-wired-and-wireless-connections however it did not help. does anyone have a suggestion?
[15:31] <angs> I use ubuntu 12.10
[15:31] <ShawnRisk> I am having internet connection problems with Ubuntu 12.10 and have done: http://singcheong.blogspot.ca/2011/07/unlock-bells-2wire-2701hg-g-adsl-modem.html which was working, but now back to the same internet problems keep happening.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:33] <sgo11> angs, It should just work. I am using both. I don't need to do anything. even no need to do the configuration that askubuntu shows. it should just work.
[15:33] <disharmonic> Anyone have an opinion on what MTP implementation is currently more stable? mtpfs or simple-mtpfs?
[15:33] <mkv_> mkv file too big for lucis? http://pastebin.com/m5XJsJzz
[15:33] <mkv_> *lucid
[15:34] <angs> sgoll: it doesn't work on my laptop, I don't know why.
[15:36] <subz3r0> hi
[15:36] <dahan> hello. I have nginx on Mac and nginx on ubuntu production. In the static web-site I have files with cyrillic letters in filename. On mac they are found by the system. On ubuntu nginx writes in log 2: No such file or directory. Specifically not all russian filenames get unaccepted. Only those having 'й' character in the filename. Any ideas?
[15:37] <subz3r0> about the new java issue. is openjdk also involved?
[15:37] <disharmonic> mkv_, that looks like an mplayer issue
[15:38] <disharmonic> mkv_, i'd suggest trying vlc
[15:38] <Timmy> I am on ubuntu 12.10 , where is the automatical driver installer?
[15:39] <Timmy> heloooo
[15:39] <FredrickSW> Hello :)
[15:39] <Timmy> lol
[15:40] <DJones> Timmy: System settings -> Software Sources - Additional drivers tab
[15:40] <mkv_> disharmonic, totem, vlc, xine, avidemux wont play it since i installed
[15:40] <mkv_> disharmonic, ..installed smplayer and w32codecs
[15:41] <mkv_> disharmonic, i tried reinstalling vlc
[15:42] <Timmy> it could not detect my hardware to show me a proprietary driver. i have a radeon hd graphic card
[15:42] <subz3r0> !ati > Timmy
[15:44] <disharmonic> mkv_, are you sure the file is not corrupted?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> disharmonic, mkv_ says  no mkv files will play ...wonder if he has libdvdecss2 installed
[15:47] <BluesKaj> err libdvdcss2
[15:49] <mkv_> disharmonic, is there an uncorrupted mkv to test?
[15:50] <disharmonic> mkv_, have you installed ubuntu-restricted and ubuntu-restriced-extras?
[15:51] <disharmonic> BluesKaj, you sure that is needed for mkvs? Iiirc it's used to decode DVDs
[15:51] <mkv_> disharmonic, think i did, how do i check?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> disharmonic, it's for stripping the DRM off the file
[15:53] <mkv_> disharmonic, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted ubuntu-restriced-extras Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted
[15:53] <escott> BluesKaj, but why would an mkv file have css?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> mkv_, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:54] <yoopi> hi all
[15:54] <mkv_> sry, Blueskaj, just saw missing t
[15:55] <mkv_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.BluesKaj, disharmonic
[15:55] <disharmonic> hmm
[15:55] <disharmonic> you can download legal mkvs from vo.do
[15:56] <disharmonic> to try
[15:56] <disharmonic> mkv_, that's a website btw
[15:57] <mkv_> BluesKaj, disharmonic, it hink the mkv file might really be crooked, just tested a test file, worked, WHAT website?
[15:57] <subz3r0> vo.do
[15:58] <BluesKaj> escott, good question , but I've encoutered a few that wouldn't play until i installed libdvdcss2 by installing th erestricted-extras
[15:58] <subz3r0> libdvdcss2 for mkv's?
[15:58] <subz3r0> not really
[15:58] <disharmonic> mkv_, what subz3r0 said
[15:58] <BluesKaj> it's actually a good reminder toi do so , escott
[15:58] <mkv_> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done libdvdcss2 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. disharmonic, BluesKaj
[15:59] <subz3r0> you dont need libdvdcss2 for mkv/mp4 with x264
[15:59] <subz3r0> libdvdcss2 is for the copy protection of dvds... and its illegal in some countries. so be aware of that
[15:59] <disharmonic> mkv_, yeah makes sense since you have restricted-extras. libdvdcss2 is for DVD playback anyway
[16:00] <subz3r0> disharmonic: agreed
[16:00] <_helios_> I don't think any code should be illegal in any country that's just ridiculous.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> subz3r0, so you say , but some DRM files are left behind in my experience
[16:00] <escott> installing restricted-extras does not actually install decss, but i dont think you should need it for anything but  a direct drive image
[16:00] <subz3r0> _helios_ that's not the point
[16:01] <_helios_> subz3r0, I know I'm just tired of governments telling people what software they can and cannot have on there computers.
[16:02] <mkv_> disharmonic, BluesKaj, i maybe quit trying now, i conclude the mkv in question is unplayble, how can I test whether an mkv is crooked or not?
[16:02] <_helios_> Welcome ActionParsnip ;)
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> _helios_: howdy
[16:03] <anomalous> I inadvertently installed the nonlegacy catalyst binary package and fubar'ed my X. How do I uninstall that package?
[16:03] <_helios_> I finally got rid of Windows 7 completaly and switched to xubuntu 12.1064bit haven't had a crash yet,  For some reason on Unity I was getting some crashes.
[16:03] <anomalous> from commandline, i am not too familiar with how to query installed packages
[16:03] <BluesKaj> mkv_, some files are unplayable after being ripped from one video format to another.corrupt maybe ? I've seen a few
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> _Helios_: xfce doesn't use Compiz by default
[16:04] <_helios_> ActionParsnip, so compiz was the culprit?
[16:04] <mkv_> BluesKaj. have u seen my pastebin?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Anomalous: how did you install it?
[16:04] <blackthor> dpkg -l = which packages are installed
[16:04] <blackthor> you can grep it with  dpkg -l |grep "name"  ?
[16:05] <blackthor> or use  something like aptitude or etc
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> _Helios_: i'd say it was likely
[16:05] <anomalous> ActionParsnip: through the gui. i don't know the name of the package
[16:05] <BluesKaj> mkv_, , no I was busy for a few mins and missed it
[16:05] <mkv_> BluesKaj wait
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Anomalous: try: tail -n 20 /var/log/dpkg.log
[16:06] <mkv_> BluesKaj, disharmonic http://pastebin.com/Q8nxby7z
[16:06] <disharmonic> subz3r0, i don't really think it's illegal. It's more like in some countries it's legality is ambiguous as it hasn't been verified in a court
[16:06] <anomalous> ActionParsnip: package is fglrx, how to uninstall from commandline, then?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Anomalous: sudo apt-get --purge remove fglrx
[16:08] <D-coy> m4v, are you there?
[16:09] <mikul> Seriously, whats up with flash in ubuntu/xubuntu? i even run 32 bit xubuntu and 32 bit flash this time. And it lags like hell when watching clip and streams.. specially in fullscreen. It works perfect for a while (30 sec to a minute) and then lags like hell and eats up all cpu. But its worse in fullscreen. also xorg is useing quite a lot cpu while flash is running..30-35% is that normal?  What can i do about it?
[16:09] <blackthor> you can stop watching porn :)
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: never had an issue. I use Chrome and remove adobe flash
[16:09] <_helios_> mikul, I'm running xubuntu 12.10 64bit and I have no flash lag.
[16:10] <mikul> i use chrome to. but i have same problem in all browsers i'v tested
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: what gpu do you have? Have you tried minitube too?
[16:11] <Squarism> I get so depressed. I really wanna use desktop ubuntu but unity just makes it damn impossible. Why cant i reassign "semi-maximize" ? Why does that have to excluded from the shortcuts that can be reassigned?
[16:11] <mikul> ActionParsnip, GeForce GTX 650 Ti (GPU 0)
[16:11] <mikul> ActionParsnip, minitube?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: did you remove adobe flash which gets instaled with the restricted extras metapaxkage
[16:11] <mkv_> BluesKaj, disharmonic, thanks for ur time and help, i ll be out. peace, happy noo year!
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: yes, minitube
[16:11] <mikul> ActionParsnip, no, how do i do that?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[16:12] <mikul> yes
[16:12] <mikul> games run perfectly
[16:12] <mikul> its just flash
[16:13] <lolek> hello all
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: what is the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: please use a pastebin to host the output
[16:14] <mikul> ActionParsnip, http://mikul.se/paste/index.php?show=3
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: so no output from the dpkg, ok. Install minitube and try that
[16:17] <mikul> ActionParsnip, oh, sorry.. synaptic was running.. 2 sec
[16:17] <blackthor> what's minitube ?
[16:19] <mikul> ActionParsnip, strange.. didnt get anything form what you wrote.. but i tried this one and got some results:
[16:19] <mikul> http://mikul.se/paste/index.php?show=5
[16:20] <invariant> wodim -scanbus returns wodim: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver!
[16:20] <anomalous> hello
[16:20] <invariant> Meanwhile, k3b can burn just fine. How is this possible?
[16:20] <anomalous> Does anyone know about disabling vsync with mesa/gallium?
[16:21] <SerenE_SparK> Can we transfer *.bat files if we open the ftp.
[16:23] <llutz> SerenE_SparK: "mput *.bat" if that is what you ask
[16:23] <mikul> ActionParsnip, how should minitube solve my streaming problem?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer; sudo dpkg -P gnash gnash-common browser-plugin-gnash
[16:24] <SerenE_SparK> llutz: like i make star.bat file in windows can i transfer it i am able to open the ftp.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: gnash doesn't use fladh, great for YouTube
[16:24] <disharmonic> blackthor, minitube is a desktop youtube player
[16:25] <mikul> ActionParsnip, i have tried that.. but still get problem while i watch in fullscreen or streams
[16:25] <escott> SerenE_SparK, its a file like any other file
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: try my command. Then close all browsers and rerun
[16:26] <SerenE_SparK> escott: but we cannot transfer bat files using internet.
[16:26] <mikul> ActionParsnip, ok
[16:27] <apn> SerenE_SparK, is it blocked by your administrator?
[16:27] <mikul> ActionParsnip, adobe flashplayer is required for video playback .. etc
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: in chrome?
[16:28] <mikul> ActionParsnip, yes and in firefox
[16:29] <SerenE_SparK> apn: it is not allowed to transfer .bat files via internet
[16:29] <mikul> ActionParsnip, or chromium
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: Firefox will need it, try installing afobe-flashplugin package
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> adobe-flasplugin
[16:29] <escott> SerenE_SparK, if your administrator set up some kind of restriction we are not going to help you get around it
[16:30] <ichat> why does flash even exists ... it should have been replaced by .. html 5  years ago  even   w3c  is ready for html 5  and they are usually the last to egnowledge new technoligies in internet browsing
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> I can't type
[16:30] <Nilton> Olá a todos
[16:30] <SerenE_SparK> escott: it is not allowed to send .bat files via internet because most of the viruses are spread in this way.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> IChat: html5 doesn't work with flash games
[16:30] <apm1> i just had a freeze on my system
[16:31] <apm1> i had to hardreboot it
[16:31] <nearst> ichat, internet is scary now
[16:31] <ichat> ActionParsnip:  - dending on what you mean by flashgames....   the  canvas  atrib  does it all
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Apm1: did ctrl+alt+f1 not do anything
[16:31] <ichat> (depending)
[16:31] <apm1> ActionParsnip, i tried switching ttys , no luck
[16:31] <k1l_> ichat: that topic doesnt help the user with his flash problem anyway
[16:32] <ichat> k11_ mea culpa
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Ichat: like kongregate games
[16:32] <k1l_> ichat: we have the #ubuntu-offtopic for topics like that. feel free to state your point there :)
[16:32] <ChronicleX> ooops i forget that command.. . hey guys how to restart x-windows system
[16:33] <k1l_> ChronicleX: start the lightdm login screen
[16:33] <mikul> ActionParsnip, still same problem
[16:33] <k1l_> ChronicleX: sudo start lightdm
[16:33] <wildc4rd> how do I stop a ping request in terminal, lol
[16:33] <disharmonic> damn vim needs quite a bit of practice
[16:33] <ChronicleX> k1l_:  i guess there is shortcut too   like super+XYZ  or alt+fx+xyz?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ChronicleX, from the TTY , startx or sudo service lightdm start
[16:34] <k1l_> wildc4rd: ctrl+c
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: if you make a fresh ubuntu user, is it the same there?
[16:34] <k1l_> ChronicleX: so you are in console?
[16:35] <ChronicleX> k1l_: BluesKaj  : thanks .  but guys i know that .  but there was a shortcut to restart graphical system when it freezes
[16:35] <Nilton> #linux
[16:35] <k1l_> BluesKaj: startx is not recommended. starting the dm is
[16:35] <BluesKaj> k1l_, by you perhaps , never had a problem with startx
[16:35] <mikul> ActionParsnip, why would it be different?
[16:35] <jofwolves> so i'm trying to run ubuntu 12.04 through parallels on OS X 6.8 and i can't seem to change or delete the default keyring password
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> K1l_: dm is optional though :)
[16:36] <jofwolves> any ideas?
[16:36] <k1l_> ChronicleX: oh ok. you said start not restart. its alt+print+k
[16:36] <Nilton> #linuxbr
[16:36] <ichat> btw is there a  way to add a  sinonym   to  the dash screen   when i type  com  or  cmd   it would open up a terminal...
[16:36] <ichat> when using windows at work,  im to mutch ussed to call it a command  window rather than a terminal...
[16:37] <angs> netstat -rn outputs two inf about eth0 netstat -rn how can I remove the info about 169.* ?
[16:37] <k1l_> BluesKaj: ActionParsnip starting x as root with startx may break some data rights. starting the dm is the safe way
[16:37] <disharmonic> !portuguese
[16:37] <angs> http://pastebin.com/Srbg2t88
[16:37] <Nilton> #xen
[16:37] <BluesKaj> k1l_, never had that problem
[16:38] <zutme> So, I wanted to make a script run hourly, so I put it in /etc/cron.hourly but it doesn't seem to be running any ideas?
[16:38] <k1l_> Nilton: try "/join #channel"
[16:38] <k1l_> BluesKaj: in the german support channel we had this quite often.
[16:38] <disharmonic> Nilton, !portuguese
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: different user with vanilla settings,  if its ok there then your settings are the issue
[16:39] <k1l_> zutme: fullpath used? does the script work?
[16:39] <Nilton> tanks
[16:39] <BluesKaj> must be something wrong with german permissions :)
[16:39] <disharmonic> damn dont remember the syntax
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> K1l_: then start it as user..
[16:39] <zutme> k1l_, it runs if I run it with sudo. And yeah all the paths in the script are full paths if that's what you mean
[16:39] <Nilton> disharmonic, sim Portugues PT-BR
[16:40] <zutme> Do I need to enable something to tell it to start running the cron.hourly?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Zutme: if cron is running then it will be processee
[16:41] <zutme> Yeah cron is running. Guess I should check the logs
[16:41] <Nilton> alguem aqui do Brasil
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> ! Brazil
[16:42] <mikul> ActionParsnip, i have had this problem in fresh installations of linux mint 13 & 14, in arch linux and in ubuntu.. but not in debian. something is fucked up
[16:42] <Nilton> opa
[16:42] <Nilton> belza
[16:42] <ChronicleX> it worked .. ctrl+print+k  :P   thanks
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: flash is a problem for some, its really hit and miss
[16:43] <qqqqq> I want to back up everything under /home/ to /media/truecrypt1 necause I want to completely reinstall Ubuntu. What is the command I am looking for?
[16:43] <mikul> ActionParsnip, yeah but why? cant they seriously get one version right.. i know i have had this problem loads of times
[16:43] <zutme> qqqqq, The cp command?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: could try playing with /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[16:44] <qqqqq> zutme, but the cp command will exit if it comes a file it can not copy
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: ask adobe, its their plugin
[16:44] <zutme> qqqqq, Why can't it copy some of the files?
[16:45] <replica> is cuttlefish avaliable for ubuntu 12.10 ?
[16:45] <mikul> ActionParsnip, i dont even have an /etc/adobe
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: its not there by default but if it is, it will be obeyed
[16:46] <qqqqq> qqqqq, I don£t know there is some hidden file under Ubuntu in every user's home directory that it can not copy. I can not recall the name right now.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> !info cuttlefish
[16:46] <mikul> ok
[16:46] <qqqqq> .drmc
[16:46] <qqqqq> ?
[16:46] <zutme> qqqqq, start from a livecd maybe or in single user mode and do the copy?
[16:46] <qqqqq> Maybe that one
[16:47] <qqqqq> But cp does not copy entire trees, does it?
[16:48] <ChronicleX> qqqqq:  use cp -r
[16:48] <zutme> qqqqq, cp -R does
[16:48] <anonymous> någon här som är någerlunda vass på hårdvara ?
[16:48] <replica> any1 plz answer abt cuttlefish for ubuntu 12.10
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: mkdir /etc/adobe; echo "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1" | sudo tee /etc/afobe/mms.cfg
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: close all browsers then rerun
[16:49] <disharmonic> anyone remember how to get ubotto to send a message to another user?
[16:49] <qqqqq> zutme, cp -r /home /media/truecrypt1/
[16:49] <bekks> !paste > disharmonic
[16:49] <zutme> qqqqq, yeah that should work
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Mikul: http://r3dux.org/2011/12/how-to-partially-workaround-adobe-flash-plugin-issues-on-linux/   try a few of those
[16:51] <qqqqq> zutme, how could I do the same with rsync in case the cp fails in the middle of the process?
[16:51] <qqqqq> I used rsync before and deleted tons of stuff by accident.
[16:52] <davidokn1r> Is there a ".pvm" (Parallels Virtual Machine) file for Ubuntu?
[16:52] <zutme> qqqqq, You would have to research the command man rsync I don't know all the switches off the top of me head
[16:52] <davidokn1r> I just tried VmWareFusion and Parallels and OMG Parallels is amazing.
[16:53] <davidokn1r> There is no screen tearing in Parallels and I heard it supports OpenGL properly without that software Maya thing.
[16:53] <OerHeks> replica, cuttlefish should be availabe >> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/automate-ubuntu-with-cuttlefish
[16:54] <Tuxmascot> I need some help installing ubuntu to a flash drive
[16:54] <escott> qqqqq, rsync /home /media/truecrypt1
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> Davidokn1r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines#Parallels   says so
[16:55] <davidokn1r> ActionParsnip: Hi
[16:55] <Tuxmascot> Whenever I boot into Ubuntu via flash drive, it says "Missing Operating System Press Enter to boot from disk"
[16:56] <davidokn1r> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[16:57] <qqqqq> What do you guys think about Ubuntu phone?
[16:57] <davidokn1r> ActionParsnip: Hmm. That website just has a link to the Parallels website.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: how did you put the OS on the USB
[16:58] <Tuxmascot> unetbootin
[16:58] <DualMoon> is it possible to get byobu to show two status lines instead of one like it used to? things are too cramped on one line.
[16:58] <escott> !ot | qqqqq
[16:59] <angs> how to disable network manager?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: did you MD5 test thr ISO you downloaded if you manually downloaded it?
[16:59] <Tuxmascot> no lol
[16:59] <davidokn1r> I'm not getting any sound in Parallels Ubuntu, but I am in VMWare Ubuntu. Anyone know why?
[16:59] <davidokn1r> (WMWare Fusion)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: then how do you know it was complete and consistent?
[17:00] <Tuxmascot> I'm checking it now.
[17:01] <angs> when I type /etc/init.d/networking, I am no longer able to use GUI of ubuntu 12.10
[17:01] <qqqqq> Does anybody know what encryption the Ubuntu full disk encryption uses? AES256?
[17:01] <angs> has anybody experienced such problem before?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: doesn't answer the question
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Angs: if you don't need it, you can uninstall it
[17:03] <escott> angs, you will have to explain better what that means
[17:03] <Tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: When I issue the md5sum command, it doesn't display anything.
[17:03] <angs> ActionParsnip: if I uninstall the network manager, do I need to use wpa_supplicant to be able to connect a wireless router?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: it takes a while to run
[17:04] <Tuxmascot> Oh alright.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Angs: you'll need something,  I recommend you install wicd then uninstall network manager (if you use 3G tgen keep network manager)
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: when it finishes you will get the prompt back
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: why did you use an unverified image?
[17:07] <mrthg> i bet he didnt know how to verify the md5 on uit
[17:07] <Tuxmascot> I have never had problems during the download process before. Just kinda got comfy not checking the md5
[17:07] <mrthg> it*
[17:07] <jofwolves> [11:35:56] <jofwolves> so i'm trying to run ubuntu 12.04 through parallels on OS X 6.8 and i can't seem to change or delete the default keyring password
[17:07] <jofwolves> [11:36:03] <jofwolves> any ideas?
[17:07] <angs> escott: I assign a static IP for eth0 interface on /etc/network/interfaces, then when I type /etc/init.d/networking restart after a few seconds later the left menu and top menu disappears, the existing windows stays remain however I cannot use the keyboard to type however I am able to switch to the command prompt by alt+ctrl +f3. do you have any idea what could be my problem?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: it needs checking so that you know there are no errors
[17:08] <Tuxmascot> I know. I am moving from #! to Ubuntu 12.10 for steam lol
[17:08] <angs> thank you ActionParsnip
[17:08] <escott> angs, is X11 not being routed to localhost? is the route to localhost wrong?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: if you delete the jeyring, you can make a new one and set a blank password
[17:09] <angs> escott: how can I check it?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: you can set the password in the 'password' app in dash
[17:09] <jofwolves> i've deleted it (or so it seems) but it still prompts me for one whenever i try to access the root or change settings or anything like that
[17:10] <mnewton> hey guys - how do i make the terminal show how many updates I have when i open a terminal, like login terminal
[17:10] <escott> angs, what have you changed in your networking setup in the past
[17:10] <DualMoon> is it possible to get byobu to show two status lines instead of one like it used to? things are too cramped on one line.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: you can probably install steam on crunchbang
[17:10] <mnewton> and what's the default update-manager deamon command?
[17:10] <Tuxmascot> I tried.
[17:10] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, before deleting it i did try to change it there, but it wanted me to enter the old one in order to set a now one
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: I see
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: do you not have the current pass?
[17:11] <jofwolves> nope
[17:11] <angs> escott: I just added eth0 settings on  /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/Q6s7kJ57  do I need to add anything else there?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: then deleting is the way to go
[17:11] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, it seems to've set one by default when i first ran ubuntu
[17:12] <jofwolves> and deleting it didn't change anything as far as i can tell
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: that doesn't happen
[17:12] <jofwolves> hence my confusion
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: when you first use the keyring, you are asked to set a keyring password
[17:12] <jofwolves> nope
[17:13] <angs> what is the command to remove network manager?
[17:13] <escott> angs, perhaps that syntax is incorrect and bringing up the network is causing that file to be misread/misparsed and then breaking lo
[17:13] <eutheria> hello, i want to test my laptop, what can generate me some fake load
[17:13] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, i've removed and re-installed ubuntu twice now with the assumption that i was just missing something, but nowhere does it prompt me to set one
[17:13] <eutheria> just spin the cpus some work
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: its been that way in ubuntu since 2007 when I started using ubuntu. So someone set it for you
[17:14] <angs> escott: do you think I can do anything about it?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: if you have a separate /home partition then the gnome key will stand
[17:14] <escott> angs, i dont know the syntax of that file so i cant say if it is wrong or not
[17:15] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, i don't know the gnome key, that's the issue
[17:15] <jofwolves> all i have, and all i was ever prompted to create, is my user (Parallels, by default) password
[17:15] <jorn> heyho, i have a shared folder on a mac without any login need (access from everyone). i want to access that from ubuntu in nautilus but it asks me for username and pw which i don't have… is there any way to access the "guest" mount option from within nautilus?
[17:15] <angs> escott: do you mean /etc/network/interfaces? how can I see the syntax?
[17:15] <Tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: Should md5sum be taking this long?
[17:16] <escott> angs, man interfaces
[17:16] <ryan27968> #linux
[17:16] <escott> Tuxmascot, if all you typed was "md5sum" it is waiting for you to input data to checksum
[17:16] <Tuxmascot> nvm
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: can you type commands in the prompt you used?
[17:16] <Tuxmascot> It got it
[17:16] <escott> Tuxmascot, probably not what you want. you would want "md5sum filename"
[17:16] <Tuxmascot> I got the sum
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> ! Hashes | Tuxmascot
[17:17] <angs> escott: thank you
[17:17] <escott> !samba | jordan
[17:17] <escott> !samba | jorn
[17:17] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, i've deleted the keyrings folder and it still prompts me for it whenever i try to do anything that requires permissions
[17:17] <designbybeck_> So this Java scare going around  right now.... do we need to be concerned? http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/US-Government-Department-of-Homeland-Security-Tells-Computer-Users-to-Disable-Java-186580121.html
[17:17] <Tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: They are exactly the same.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: do you mean sudo?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: good, please do that in future
[17:17] <jorn> escott: i've seen those before… they don't answer my question
[17:18] <designbybeck_> Or is the "Disable Java" only if you have Sun Java 7?
[17:18] <Tuxmascot> So, why won't it boot?
[17:18] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, yes
[17:18] <escott> jorn, im not sure what your question is
[17:19] <designbybeck_> ActionParsnip:  have you heard of people say to Disable Java because of a security risk?
[17:19] <jorn> how to access a windows share which does not require any login from nautilus which asks me for username and password
[17:19] <sirblade> hi, what is the name of the ubuntu  package that has php5 + apache2?
[17:19] <designbybeck_> does that mean on Linux as well?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: sudo will always ask for password unless you are in the grace period. That us normal
[17:19] <Tuxmascot> sirblade: apt-get Apache2
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Designbybeck_: no idea. I don't use Java
[17:20] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, all other things that would generally require a password still ask for it too, though
[17:20] <jofwolves> root access, changing account onformation, etc
[17:20] <escott> jorn, are you sure it doesn't require login? sounds like smbclient is getting a username/password request
[17:20] <designbybeck_> ActionParsnip:  Guess you're in the clear then ;)
[17:20] <designbybeck_> I'll keep reading up on this exploit
[17:21] <sirblade> how do i get php to work with apache?
[17:21] <jorn> escott: well, it works from another mac… just sees the thingy, no login question at all (and it obviously doesn't have the username and pw stored anything)
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: you can run: sudo -i    and you will not be asked for authentication for sudo stuff. You don't need to log in as root ever
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Designbybeck: i'd ssk in #java
[17:22] <Tuxmascot> sirblade: Google configuring php5 on apache2
[17:22] <angs> I am using ubuntu 12.10: I typed sudo apt-get purge network-manager-gnome; sudo apt-get autoremove however my connection did not break. doesn't that command suppose to remove network manager?
[17:22] <jorn> escott: ah, it's username: guest, pw: empty
[17:22] <sirblade> isnt there a package i can install that does it all in one step
[17:22] <jorn> that took me ages
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Angs: sudo apt-get --purge remove network-manager
[17:23] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip:
[17:23] <jofwolves> parallels@parallels-Parallels-Virtual-Platform:~$ sudo -i
[17:23] <jofwolves> [sudo] password for parallels:
[17:23] <Tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: So, the md5sum checks out. Why won't the usb boot?
[17:23] <jofwolves> it still prompts me
[17:23] <escott> !lamp | sirblade
[17:23] <angs> thank you ActionParsnip
[17:23] <sirblade> tx
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: what OS did you make the USB in?
[17:24] <jofwolves> and regardless, ActionParsnip, there's not much sudo stuff that i really want to be doing, my main issue is that i have no idea what the keyring password is and can't figure out how to successfully delete or change it
[17:24] <Tuxmascot> Mac OS X
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: it will. Like I said, sudo will always ask for password.  But now it won't as you are effectively root
[17:24] <Tuxmascot> I couldn't get unetbootin to work on #!
[17:24] <sirblade> also how do you guys know the package names, i tried looking on launchpad but it's hard to navigate
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: could try another app to make the USB
[17:25] <Tuxmascot> can't I do the command 'dd'
[17:25] <escott> !info apt-file | sirblade
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: yes, dince oneiric, dd can be used to make bootable USBs etc
[17:26] <Tuxmascot> What is the syntax? dd if=X ????
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Sirblade: or ask ubottu
[17:26] <sirblade> tx
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: dd if=filename.iso of=/dev/whatever's
[17:26] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, it is definitely still asking me for the password in order to do anything
[17:26] <Tuxmascot> thanks
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: even after sudo -i
[17:27] <jofwolves> yes
[17:27] <escott> jofwolves, what is asking you for the password
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: what is the output if: cat /etc/issue
[17:28] <Tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: Do I use /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 ?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot: sdb1
[17:29] <Tuxmascot> thnaks
[17:29] <Tuxmascot> *thanks
[17:29] <jofwolves> escott, in this case as a test i tried to edit my User Account's name; it wouldn't let me since i didn't have the keyring
[17:29] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, i'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but:
[17:29] <jofwolves> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[17:30] <jofwolves> is what it outputs
[17:30] <escott> jofwolves, can you take a screenshot of where it is asking for the password. you keep talking about keyrings but ActionParsnip is talking about sudo... im wondering if we are talking about the right password prompt
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: wait, are you running sudo -i then using GUI apps and being asked for a password
[17:31] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, yes
[17:31] <jofwolves> escott, one sec
[17:31] <designbybeck_> This site mentions Linux could be infected as well with this Java exploit, just not sure if that only is related to Sun's Java 7 or not... if you have that install or the OpenJDK? http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2010/10/28/cross-platform-worm-targets-facebook-users/
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: sudo -i only authenticates that prompt,  not the GUI
[17:32] <escott> designbybeck_, the best thing you can do is find the original CVE and see what versions of java are affected
[17:32] <escott> designbybeck_, you can also check if ubuntu has issued an update for that particular CVE
[17:32] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, that would make sense then. in that case, it's not of that much use for what i'm trying to do, which is figure out the default keyring that it's given me
[17:32] <designbybeck_> escott:  what is the CVE?
[17:32] <Tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: It finished. What do I do now? Try to boot from it?
[17:33] <escott> designbybeck_, http://cve.mitre.org/ Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: there isn't a default keyring password,  it would be a massive security hole
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Tuxmascot yes
[17:33] <designbybeck_> ok thank you escott looking now
[17:33] <escott> designbybeck_, reporters who know what they are doing will include the CVE in the article
[17:33] <Tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks!
[17:33] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, there definitely is.
[17:34] <simpleton> Hi everyone, I'm a newbie to linux and I received a donated hp pavilion tx1000... the model has bga overheating problems and I would like to keep the fan always turned on, is there a simple way to do that?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves;: there are no default passwords in ubuntu
[17:34] <bekks> simpleton: Whats "bga"?
[17:34] <jofwolves> ActionParsnip, in that case it's something on Parallels Desktop's end
[17:34] <simonpatapon> Hi
[17:34] <jofwolves> either way, there definitely is one
[17:34] <simpleton> the nvidia graphics chip that comes in the motherboard of it
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Jofwolves: maybe, not sure there
[17:35] <escott> simpleton, there is the fancontrol program, you may also be able to set the fan speed via /sys
[17:35] <designbybeck_> escott:  nothing so far on Ubuntu's site: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[17:35] <simonpatapon> anyone knows of any grooveshark plugin for any music player?
[17:36] <escott> designbybeck_, im not particularly interested in tracking down the CVE number for you. what exactly would you do if you found that CVE was not patched?
[17:36] <simpleton> Fancontrol works on lubuntu also? I tried to install it yesterday, but one of the packages wasn't found by the synaptics
[17:36] <tuxmascot> ActionParsnip: It didn't work.
[17:37] <designbybeck_> I'm still reading up on it. thank you escott... I'm a slow reader ;)
[17:37] <tuxmascot> It says syslinux not found
[17:40] <simpleton> well,. thanks for the tips... I'm gonna try some strategies here , be back later
[17:40] <tuxmascot> ActionParsnips: I think I found the problem. My CPU isn't pae compatible or something
[17:41] <senix> hi
[17:41] <Guest99135> hi
[17:42] <homerj> installing 12.10, and after the splash screen, X seems to be setting a goofy displaymode and my monitor doesn't like it
[17:43] <homerj> this a common problem, or should I start looking though the logs for an exact cause
[17:44] <davidokn1r> Does anyone here run Ubuntu in Parallels?
[17:44] <homerj> can't even ctrl+alt+(+/-) into a correct res, seems to be in "I want 2560x1440 or bust" mode
[17:45] <zykotic10> homerj: try booting with nomodeset (see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details)
[17:45] <simonpatapon> anyone knows about a Linux Imessage client?
[17:45] <homerj> zykotic10, will try
[17:46] <bekks> davidokn1r: Why?
[17:46] <davidokn1r> I'm having trouble with graphic glitch in Ubuntu with parallels.
[17:47] <zykotic10> homerj: OH sorry.  rather then ctrl+alt+{+|-}, try using the proper ctrl+alt+f1 (or just alt+f1 if you're at a tty)
[17:47] <davidokn1r> bekks: Parallels runs Ubuntu much better than VmWareFusion performance wise (no screen tearing), but I'm getting graphical glitch with the unity bar and top of screen.
[17:47] <homerj> zykotic10, yeah, I get a terminal from that
[17:47] <zykotic10> homerj: ok.  then nomodeset isn't gonna help.
[17:48] <davidokn1r> bekks: There is a black line at the top of firefox when I full screen it and a white line that keeps apearing and disapearing next to the unity dock.
[17:48] <homerj> zykotic10, it's a 640x480 window in the corner of the screen, but it's there
[17:48] <zykotic10> homerj: that's all you need ;)
[17:48] <homerj> yeah, that's changeable
[17:49] <Ahmed_> Hi !
[17:49] <homerj> this is an X specific thing
[17:50] <Ahmed_> Can i install ubuntu on HP Pavilion G6 ?
[17:50] <tuxmascot> ^ yes
[17:51] <homerj> zykotic10, I was hopeful it was just one of those known problems, that had an easy solution heh
[17:51] <Ahmed_> but when i put the cd and boot , the installation does'nt work ù,
[17:52] <afo> Hi, I have question about the web apps integration on ubuntu 12.10.
[17:52] <homerj> I'll read though some of this stuff and see what I come up with as a solution
[17:53] <afo> I added my google account, the unread messages does not appear until I open my gmail.
[17:53] <afo> Is there a way to show me the unread messages without open the mail??
[17:54] <RELOL> hi
[17:54] <RELOL> i have GPU restarts on ubuntu 12.10 while i watch videos
[17:55] <F3Speech> Evening all,
[17:55] <RELOL> radeon driver
[17:55] <aguitel> is there way to install whatsup ?
[17:55] <RELOL> [16285.517829] radeon 0000:01:05.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10000msec
[17:56] <RELOL> [16285.517843] radeon 0000:01:05.0: GPU lockup (waiting for 0x00000000002cfcb9 last fence id 0x00000000002cfcb8)
[17:56] <Forty-3> how do I keep apt-get from prompting me for the install cd?
[17:57] <homerj> Forty-3 , take the cds out of the list
[17:57] <zykotic10> Forty-3: comment out/remove the cd line from sources.list.  there are numberous GUI methods to do this in ubuntu.
[17:57] <Forty-3> ok
[17:58] <F3Speech> Todays mystery is "Host is down" error when trying to access network shares. I know the NAS isnt down as my PC can access the shre no problems. I've tried to remount the shares but the error percists. Anyone help me sort this, thanks.
[17:58] <Forty-3> thanks
[17:58] <RELOL> why i cannot write on radeon
[18:00] <doctorly> is there an easy to use terminal based wifi manager?
[18:01] <jrib> doctorly: nmcli, wicd-curses?
[18:01] <zykotic10> doctorly: i use wicd.  but it would be better if you found a Network-Manager one.
[18:01] <davidokn1r> I fixed the graphics glitch with Ubuntu in parallels. You need to run it in Ubuntu 2d mode. THere is a sudo command.
[18:02] <doctorly> zykotic10: is it easier to use than manually connecting?
[18:03] <zykotic10> doctorly: obviously.
[18:03] <tuxmascot> Why doesn't this pendrive show up from mount?
[18:03] <fuxar> my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/1524356/
[18:04] <limpc> are there any linux distress currently using kernel 3.7.x?
[18:04] <atlas__> random question, does anybody have a reccomendation for a set of wireless speakers?  i've got a nice reciever and surround, just want to hook up some sort of wireless reciever to it and put a couple spakers in the kitchen and basement....
[18:04] <jnix> can anyone point me toward a good guide for getting amd hybrid graphics working? HP Envy 15 3040NR & ATI Radeon HD6600M
[18:04] <tuxmascot> limpc: If therer are, they're probably unstable.
[18:05] <tuxmascot> *there
[18:05] <DiegoJp> hello
[18:05] <jnix> just downgraded from 12.10 > 12.04 hoping that the older LTS version will work better :3
[18:05] <limpc> why would they be?
[18:05] <DiegoJp> ubuntu for phones? when??
[18:05] <limpc> 3.7.2 is a stable kernel
[18:07] <limpc> tuxmascot, why would a distro with 3.7.x be unstable?
[18:10] <Chris154> I have a quick ssh server im having a few issues with using keys
[18:11] <Rhonda> limpc: and it was released only yesterday.
[18:11] <Chris154> every time i add my public key give the file the permissions a logout it changes the file name and permissions
[18:12] <limpc> Rhonda, haha didnt notice that.
[18:12] <jrib> Chris154: be more specific about what happens
[18:13] <limpc> this sucks. kernel 3.5.x doesn't work with my mono (990fxa-ud3, by gigabyte).
[18:13] <zykotic10> Chris154: are you using "ssh-copy-id" to put your keys on the server?  i can't help further good luck.
[18:13] <limpc> usb is dead due to kernel bug
[18:13] <Therion87> Hello
[18:14] <Chris154> jrib well when i logout to try logging in i find the authorized_keys is now called autorized_keys and has permissions 777
[18:14] <j_ayen_green> I have this http://pastebin.com/5kZvsEDg in my 000-default apache entry, and apache2ctl -t reports both dav and dav_fs loaded, but I'm getting 405 method not allowed when I try to hit the url with cadaver
[18:15] <jrib> Chris154: either you've made a typo, someone is messing with you, or your server is compromised
[18:15] <Chris154> jrib i doubt it its a VM on my lan with no external access
[18:15] <iceroot> Chris154: why??? has it 777?
[18:16] <iceroot> Chris154: 777 is always bad and insecure
[18:16] <Chris154> iceroot i know this i didnt change it
[18:16] <jrib> Chris154: well then I'd wager on option 1
[18:17] <Chris154> jrib well i just created a file authorized_keys (i checked my spelling) and set the permissions 600 and removed the authorized_keys and logged out and back in and it was autorized_keys again
[18:17] <jrib> Chris154: pastebin « ls -l ~/.ssh/authorized_keys » before you log out for us.  Then again after you log out.  Include your full prompt with the command you ran
[18:17] <Chris154> jrib ok
[18:18] <Steven4242> hello
[18:19] <Steven4242> I have a problem.. Ubuntu absolutely hates me apparently :P
[18:19] <Steven4242> I had a problem yesterday with my internet.. reinstalled ubuntu now after I login nothing happens
[18:19] <Steven4242> it just displays a wallpaper
[18:19] <Steven4242> the most recent thing I did was install the ATI drivers but yeah
[18:20] <_helios_> Steven4242, if you think it's graphic card related you can try nomodeset at grub
[18:21] <Steven4242> well I don't know I mean it's really weird.. would instaling a graphics card cause ubuntu to complete mess up?
[18:21] <Steven4242> I install the latest drivers from AMD's website and its exactly for my ubuntu version
[18:21] <j_ayen_green> never mind... found it
[18:22] <_helios_> Steven4242, I would try nomodeset at grub
[18:22] <Steven4242> sorry to sound like a newbie.. but how do I do that?
[18:22] <_helios_> I think you just type c to get into the grub console and type nomodeset
[18:23] <Chris154> now im getting permissions denied to cd into my .ssh folder
[18:23] <_helios_> Steven4242, hold on a sec let me make sure
[18:23] <Steven4242> alrighty
[18:24] <_helios_> Steven4242, goto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[18:24] <Steven4242> thank you
[18:25] <_helios_> Steven4242, np
[18:27] <disharmonic> those gfx during bootup are really a waste of resources and a source of potential problems
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> disharmonic: In what?
[18:32] <Steven4242> how do I view what my wifi card is called from within terminal?
[18:32] <disharmonic> in general :p, i'm just ranting ;)
[18:32] <perl_> lshw should do the trick
[18:33] <jorjais> hola gente soy nuevo en ubuntu estoy provando todo alguna recomendacion
[18:33] <disharmonic> or lspci
[18:33] <SwedeMike> !es | jorjais
[18:33] <rohith> #ubuntu
[18:33] <Steven4242> lshw loads everything too fast?
[18:34] <Steven4242> sorry to ask such newbish questions but I really want to get this working haha
[18:34] <solarcloud_3scrn> me gutsa #ubuntu-es
[18:34] <disharmonic> add "| more" to the cmd
[18:34] <Steven4242> thank you
[18:35] <Guest____> Hey could someone help me with a ndiswrapper problem?
[18:35] <SwedeMike> !anyone | Guest____
[18:36] <_helios_> Steven4242, Usualy your wifi name would be wlan0
[18:36] <Steven4242> yes I have found it and now I am about to solve the problem hopefully
[18:37] <k1l_> Steven4242: tried lspci?
[18:37] <Steven4242> k1l_: no I tried the other one lhsw
[18:37] <Guest____> I know, I've tried the whole thing. The iwconfig is blank, and pretty much everything is blank, is is with ndiswrapper and my driver's Xperia driver installed
[18:37] <Steven4242> and I got my internet working
[18:37] <Guest____> Not Xperia, xp
[18:37] <Steven4242> it's weird that I have to do this everytime I boot though
[18:37] <Steven4242> sudo modprobe -rf ath9k sudo modprobe -v ath9k nohwcrypt=1 sudo service network-manager restart
[18:37] <SonikkuAmerica> ((Xperia lol))
[18:38] <Steven4242> if I don't my internet just doesnt work
[18:38] <_helios_> Steven4242, you could make a script do that on bootup
[18:38] <Guest____> Lspci is also blank
[18:38] <Guest____> I'll try that command, Steven
[18:38] <Steven4242> _helios_: yes I will be looking into making scripts as soon as I fix this setup here.. now that I have an internet connection I can install Grub and try to fix this weird issue im having
[18:39] <Steven4242> I don't know why it would just boot into a blank screen but ubuntu is a delicate beast
[18:39] <pritaloca> etrt
[18:39] <Steven4242> I probably messed with the wrong setting somewhere and messed it up
[18:39] <_helios_> Steven4242, have you tried xubuntu?
[18:39] <Steven4242> _helios_: no I have not, what is the difference between x and normal ubuntu"
[18:39] <Steven4242> ?
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Steven4242: For one thing, Xfce
[18:40] <_helios_> Steven4242, I just made the switch recently to a full xubuntu 12.1064bit install from a Ubuntu 12.1064bit and it is so much faster,  There is a little less eye candy but the performance is off the charts and I haven't had any crashes like I did in Ubuntu with Unity
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> In lieu of Unity
[18:41] <Steven4242> _helios_: but if I install xubuntu will I have to reinstall all my programs again?
[18:41] <yeats> Steven4242: you don't have to reinstall
[18:41] <Steven4242> oh
[18:42] <disharmonic> SonikkuAmerica, is xubuntu a community variant or officially supported?
[18:42] <_helios_> Steven4242, if you do a full install yes.
[18:42] <yeats> !purexfce | Steven4242
[18:42] <Steven4242> how do I get it? I am currently in ubuntu (but just on the blank wallpaper)  and I just accessed terminal
[18:42] <backbox> if virtually nobody is ever online for my ubuntu based distro, would it be bad IRC etiquette to ask my question here?
[18:42] <yeats> !derivatives | backbox
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> disharmonic: It's supported, but can't be installed with Wubi past 12.04
[18:42] <Steven4242> yeats: what does that do? or what is xfce?
[18:43] <_helios_> Steven4242, Xfce is a different desktop manager that is lighter on resources.
[18:43] <yeats> Steven4242: that will remove Gnome completely and you would be running (in effect) xubuntu
[18:43] <yeats> Steven4242: xfce is very good IMHO
[18:43] <Steven4242> even for a newbie though?
[18:43] <_helios_> Steven4242, yes
[18:43] <yeats> Steven4242: yep
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Steven4242, _helios_: Lubuntu is even better on resources.
[18:44] <Steven4242> I have been using Windows since I was a child (literally) up until Windows 7 and only just switched to ubuntu so I really know nothing about it
[18:44] <yeats> Steven4242: you'll feel right at home in no time
[18:44] <Steven4242> it honestly gets frustrating at times but when it works damnit is this OS amazing
[18:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !lubuntu
[18:44] <cha0s_> can anyone help me figure out the problem I am having with winff/ffmpeg and possiblly fix the issue?
[18:44] <_helios_> Steven4242, I suggest you give xubuntu a try I think that will solve allot of your problems.
[18:45] <yeats> Steven4242: and if you end up not liking it, switching back to gnome (or to lxde) is very simple
[18:45] <Steven4242> _helios_: alrighty I will google that and find out how to install it
[18:45] <gaby> HI, please i have installed the ubuntu 12.4 on DELL inspiron 6400 and the WIFI not working .... any help please ?
[18:45] <yeats> Steven4242: read ubottu's link
[18:45] <_helios_> Steven4242, follow the link that yeats posted above.
[18:45] <Tabis> hi. i'm trying to setup a minimalistic ubuntu on a system without peripherials, serial+network only. i've succeeded in setting up an ubuntu 10.04 + grub-legacy (for cpu reasons) so far, serial output works. but after a few seconds of booting the system seems to freeze. serial output stops and the system is not responsive on the statically configured ip-address. any ideas? last messages from kernel are "waiting for root device" and "something a
[18:45] <Tabis> usb initialisation.
[18:46] <Steven4242> ok will do! thank you :)
[18:46] <cha0s_> can anyone help me figure out the problem I am having with winff/ffmpeg and possiblly fix the issue?
[18:47] <yeats> Tabis: did you install via USB drive?
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Tabis: Try 12.04 (10.04 dies in April)
[18:47] <cha0s_> can anyone help me figure out the problem I am having with winff/ffmpeg and possiblly fix the issue?
[18:47] <Douro> I have a 500GB external drive with Ubuntu installed on it but my current Ubuntu instalation doesn't seem to recgnise it - whenever I plug the drive it only recognises a 255MB volume with Grub on it. Help?
[18:47] <disharmonic> SonikkuAmerica, Wubi is the windows installer?
[18:47] <_helios_> Douro, is it encrypted?
[18:47] <Tabis> yeats: no i installed with debootstrap. no monitor/keyboard on that machine
[18:47] <Douro> helios: home folder is
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> !wubi | disharmonic
[18:47] <Tabis> SonikkuAmerica: can't. 10.04 is the last ubuntu with a kernel which supports that specific cpu :/
[18:48] <backbox> there is no channel in FreeNode for my distro (it's BlackBox) ther is a #blackbox, but it's for the window manager, and the server for our official support channel is in Italy, and there is one idler on there that is it, so do you have any suggestions on where I should go when google and my distro's official site doesn't seem to help?
[18:48] <dve> I have screwed up the network settings of my Ubuntu Server box while trying to set it to a static ip. Now I can not SSH to it. I have no monitor or keyboard to plug into it. Is there any way I can get around this!?
[18:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Tabis: pH. You'll be hard pressed then.
[18:48] <yeats> Tabis: ok - was just wondering if grub was trying to find the correct device
[18:48] <fdgfgfdgfdg> hi
[18:49] <fdgfgfdgfdg> i found a great site dedicated to macs
[18:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Tabis: I meant Oh, not pH. :-)
[18:49] <fdgfgfdgfdg> gfsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsdsd
[18:49] <disharmonic> backbox, no idea. Try #linux maybe or a local(to you) lug channel
[18:49] <yeats> dve: you need some sort of interface to the console
[18:49] <gaby> HI, please i have installed the ubuntu 12.4 on DELL inspiron 6400 and the WIFI not working .... any help please ?
[18:49] <Tabis> yeats: i think grub does its job fine, as the kernel is booting. just not very far unfortunately
[18:49] <disharmonic> backbox, or choose a better supported distro :P
[18:50] <SonikkuAmerica> gaby: not at all?
[18:50] <dve> yeats: there is no way to toggle a failsafe mode?
[18:50] <rocky_> how do i tell what dns entry my ubuntu desktop machine is using when i'm using dhcp ?  resolv.conf just points to 127.0.0.1
[18:50] <mavsman> I am trying to add a file to my webroot for my apache server but I don't have permission, how do I change my permissions for /var/www/?
[18:50] <cha0s_> can anyone help me figure out the problem I am having with winff/ffmpeg and possiblly fix the issue?
[18:50] <yeats> Tabis: "waiting for root device" usually means grub has been misconfigured somehow (in my experience)
[18:51] <backbox> I'm usualy okay with lesser supported distros just flying solo, just cant find documentation of the live user password, but keep getting kicked to the login screen...
[18:51] <disharmonic> SonikkuAmerica, i had a vague recollection of that.
[18:51] <yeats> dve: not sure what you mean by "failsafe mode", but if the network isn't working, you're still stuck unless you can hook up a keyboard/monitor
[18:51] <backbox> tried the basics... live, the distro name, user, passeword, etc
[18:52] <disharmonic> tried blank?
[18:52] <dve> yeats: urgh, I was afraid of that! If I added another NIC to the box would ubuntu auto configure it?
[18:52] <backbox> yeah
[18:52] <SonikkuAmerica> disharmonic: However, beginning with 12.10, Xubuntu can't be used with it, but all the other flavors will.
[18:52] <Timmy> where is the startup configuration in ubuntu 12.10??
[18:52] <yeats> dve: secondary NICs usually need some sort of manual configuration to work
[18:53] <gaby> sonikkuamerica: yes nothing at all
[18:53] <cha0s_> can anyone help me figure out the problem I am having with winff/ffmpeg and possiblly fix the issue?
[18:53] <Tabis> yeats: any idea what i want to look for in the grub config?
[18:53] <yeats> cha0s_: why don't you describe the problem and someone may be able to help?
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Gaby: Do you know what network card you have?
[18:53] <yeats> Tabis: legacy grub, right?
[18:54] <Tabis> yep
[18:54] <disharmonic> SonikkuAmerica, i like text based installers tbh. They seem far simpler to me.
[18:55] <MDKwlan> join /linux
[18:55] <MDKwlan> oops
[18:55] <gaby> tell me how to check it please
[18:55] <yeats> Tabis: the hard drive enumeration in grub is different than how the OS does it, so if your root partition is in /dev/sda1 in ubuntu it would be something like "hd0,0" in grub (iirc)
[18:55] <gaby> sonikkuamerica: please tell me how to check the name of my card for you
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> disharmonic: Shiny objects hmm? Maybe you should try one. :-)  But a text based installer is hard to come by these days:
[18:56] <dve> yeats: ok, thanks
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> ...
[18:56] <Tabis> yeats, unfortunately i'm not experienced in linux/kernel booting much at all. maybe the parameters "rootwait" and "noinitrd" are relevant?
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Gaby: Which flavor of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:57] <yeats> !grub1 | Tabis - maybe this will help?:
[18:58] <Tabis> about the partitions i'm sure they are correct, i've bound grub to the partition's UUID instead of fixed (hd0,0)
[18:58] <disharmonic> SonikkuAmerica, quite a few hardcore distros have one :p. Honestly i preferred the old alternative installer. Iirc it's actually based on Debian's
[18:58] <gaby> sonikkuamerica: iam using ubuntu 12.04 LTL
[18:58] <yeats> Tabis: okay - then maybe my theory is wrong
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Gaby: Unity?
[18:59] <Tabis> ubottu: thanks, but grub is actually working fine. maybe - but not certain about it - there's an error in menu.lst
[18:59] <gaby> sonikkuamerica : yes i guess so
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Gaby: OK, what computer did you say you had again?
[18:59] <yeats> Tabis: well that's what I meant :-/
[18:59] <cha0s_> anyone familiar with ffmpeg?
[19:00] <yeats> !anyone | cha0s_
[19:00] <gaby> sonikkuamerica: dell inspiron 6400
[19:00] <backbox> figured it out, I will just boot in with persistence and create a user with a password... :-)
[19:00] <Tabis> stupid thing about it is, i have to switch the hdd from my desktop to the target machine for every change and new try ^^
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Gaby: I looked at the spec sheet for your computer, it appears to have a PCI Express Mini Card
[19:03] <SonikkuAmerica> As its WLAN controller
[19:04] <gaby> sonikkuamerica : nooo - i have wirelss option and i was working good with my WINDOWS xp
[19:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Gaby: OK, let me move to private message
[19:05] <gaby> ok
[19:07] <yeats> Tabis: there may be a better approach to what you're trying to do...
[19:08] <RELOL> fglrx cannot be installed
[19:09] <arshavin> i installed latest kernel in precise and it messed up boot logo
[19:09] <Tabis> yeats: what could i do? all i have is the serial output from boot with no errors
[19:10] <cha0s_> does anyone inthis room have any knowledge of ffmpeg/winff?
[19:10] <RELOL> Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.5.0-22-generic
[19:11] <SierraAR> Is it possible to install Skype on Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit?
[19:12] <designbybeck_> my new insatll on my new system keeps crashing! Without warning it will just go black and go ot the login screen
[19:12] <designbybeck_> give no error
[19:13] <disharmonic> cha0s_, you know there's an #ffmpeg channel on freenode, right?
[19:13] <disharmonic> designbybeck_, sounds like a GPU issue
[19:13] <arshavin> SierraAR, yes
[19:13] <designbybeck_> disharmonic:  I am in the process of trying to get my NVIDIA drivers working
[19:13] <cha0s_> yes i do, i also know that noneof the 102 users on that channel have responded for three days. no chatter at all
[19:14] <designbybeck_> this happened before I messed with the drivers as well
[19:14] <cha0s_> disharmonic: above
[19:14] <designbybeck_> I'm having the common problem where I install the NVIDIA drivers and then you only get a desktop. So instructions say to remove and install linux headers generic
[19:15] <designbybeck_> whcih I have done , but then on restart it wouldn't even bring up the desktop
[19:15] <designbybeck_> went to safe driver mode
[19:18] <yeats> Tabis: I was thinking generally about the need to install 10.04 with grub legacy on something where you're having to move the hard drive from one device to another just to troubleshoot - seems like a good use case for a VM
[19:18] <RELOL> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: noXFree86DRIExtension
[19:19] <Tabis> yeats: sounds like it, dd an an image of the drive to a virtual drive and try to boot it, same thought?
[19:20] <Feedhurley> is it safe to change in the fstab file? I want to make some new partitions to be able to be mounted and think of write this in my fstab file : "UUID=661B27D7699A34EB /media ntfs-3g"
[19:20] <yeats> Tabis: without knowing what the end goal is, I would probably consider different approaches if it were me
[19:21] <tga> hey, on a system with 16GB RAM would you really make a 16GB swap partition?
[19:21] <bekks> Sure.
[19:21] <bekks> As long as you are going to use suspend2disk, you will have to have as much swap as RAM.
[19:22] <tga> this is a desktop, but hibernation is still handy
[19:22] <tga> I'm just a bit tight on space on this ssd
[19:22] <tga> when I go up to 32GB I don't see myself setting that aside for the swap
[19:22] <bekks> tga: How big is that SSD?
[19:22] <tga> 128G
[19:22] <tga> or rather 120G I think
[19:23] <bekks> Thats more than enough for 32g swap plus a full blown ubuntu install.
[19:23] <Tabis> yeats: beginning to suspect you might still be right with the grub config mistake. i just discovered and unplugged an incredibly small bluetooth usb stick. now the last kernel message is "waiting for root device"… argh
[19:23] <tga> oh ubuntu isn't the issue, I want to have files on here too
[19:23] <Tabis> thanks for the help so far, i'll try to learn more about the linux boot process
[19:23] <vlt> Hello. I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. After the last Thunderbird update my home dir exploded. ~/.thunderbird has grown to about 10 GB while the maildir size on the server is only 2 GB. Any idea how to fix this?
[19:24] <tga> what would be a generous amount of space for the / partition?
[19:24] <bekks> tga: A full blown ubuntu install takes about less than 16GB, so you will have enough space for your files, too.
[19:24] <Fantozzi> ciao
[19:24] <Fantozzi> !list
[19:24] <tga> yup
[19:24] <tga> how come there is no LVM option in the install?
[19:25]  * tga would like to keep his /home separate without having to choose partition sizes
[19:25] <Fantozzi> ciao
[19:25] <Fantozzi> !list
[19:26] <ducktype> i need a cron alternative, where i can simply put multiple job definitions files inside each user home directory (~/.cron/job_group1.cron, ~/.cron/job_group2.cron) and this will get automatically cheduled, no "crontab -e" or other thigs, someone know of somethig working like that? or can i configure some cron alternative to work like that?
[19:27] <bekks> ducktype: To my knowledge, every cron implementation uses the crontab.
[19:27] <jrib> ducktype: why do you want to do it this way instead of using crontab?
[19:27] <ducktype> i like simple things
[19:28] <tga> any sense in bothering with a /boot?
[19:28] <ducktype> crontab make no sense to me, no advantages only disavantages, it's a pain
[19:28] <bekks> ducktype: The crontab is more easy than reading zillion of different config files for different users.
[19:28] <bekks> ducktype: To me, it is vice versa.
[19:28] <Tabis> yeats: yay, i replaced the UUID with classic scheme (hd0,0) and removed "rootwait", now at least i get a kernel panic xD
[19:28] <ducktype> when i say simple i mean simple to use not to implement
[19:29] <yeats> Tabis: cool
[19:29] <bekks> ducktype: crontab -e is more simple than looking out for the correct filename, isnt it? :)
[19:29] <jrib> ducktype: but seems like the usage would be the same except instead of running "crontab -e" you run "editor ~/.whatever"
[19:29] <Tabis> guess what the last msg before panic is ;)
[19:29] <yeats> tga: there is an LVM option in 12.10 installation
[19:30] <Tabis> mounting root file system ^^
[19:30] <tga> yeats: strange, I don't see it anywhere
[19:30] <yeats> tga: 12.10, right?
[19:30] <tga> yeats: yeah
[19:30] <vlt> tga: You can add LVM later easily.
[19:31] <tga> you can?
[19:31] <bekks> tga: Yes.
[19:31] <tga> I thought the partition had to be defined as lvm beforehand
[19:31] <ducktype> yep with the way i've proposed you can have mutiple files defining jobs (huge advantages), and a simple "vi  ~/.cron/job1.cron" is enough, no commands only files and paths
[19:31] <ducktype> much more maintenable
[19:31] <vlt> tga: You can also do this later.
[19:31] <tga> alright
[19:31] <bekks> ducktype: For me, it just introduces even more failures.
[19:32] <duh> hello
[19:32] <yeats> tga: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/09/04/full-disk-encryption-and-lvm-configuration-in-ubuntus-graphical-installer/ - screenshots
[19:32] <duh> i need some help if you guys can spare some time
[19:32] <ducktype> bekks: failures?
[19:32] <bekks> ducktype: creating a job file in the wrong place, etc. - impossible using crontab -e
[19:33] <Guest59774> how do i update the nvidia drivers for unbuntu
[19:33] <ducktype> linux developers and users have lost any the kiss principle for a long time, init vs systemd show iis
[19:33] <ducktype> *it
[19:33] <bekks> ducktype: Same approach for every user, not even necessary to remember a specific filename.
[19:33] <Guest59774> im trying to run skyrim in wine
[19:33] <bekks> ducktype: cron is one of the OLDEST KISS implementations, do you knwo that?=
[19:33] <ducktype> it's not specific, but anyway also "crontab -e" is specific
[19:34] <ducktype> i know what is kiss cron is shit
[19:34] <yeats> Guest59774: software sources -> additional drivers tab has the ubuntu-provided options
[19:34] <ducktype> like init and other linux things, i hate all this conservancy of shitty things
[19:34] <Guest59774> ya tried that none of them install
[19:34] <jrib> ducktype: one of the other advantages to using crontab -e is that cron notices changes right away when you're done editing
[19:35] <Guest59774> i can down;load it from ind\vidia dont know hgow to install a run file
[19:35] <ducktype> jrib: do you know there is a filewatch api?
[19:35] <rigo> hi
[19:35] <jrib> ducktype: yep
[19:35] <tga> any major problems with disk/home encryption?
[19:36] <rigo> im wondering why the ubuntu netinstaller doesnt asks me if which packages should be installed?
[19:36] <bekks> rigo: Because just a basic set is installed.
[19:36] <ducktype> jrib: you know cron use the old way, force you to use a shit command to edit a file?
[19:36] <jrib> ducktype: can you mind your language please?
[19:36] <rigo> it asked me before. (last time i used 32bit, now the x64)
[19:36] <ducktype> jrib: only becouse was designed before thath api existed?
[19:36] <ducktype> sorry about the language
[19:36] <harris> help!!! my computer is making poping sounds when on battery
[19:37] <ducktype> not my intention to offend you or others here
[19:37] <idodeisuke> Hi, I know, it's a noob-question, but would you recommend me to switch to 12.10 or stick with 12.04?
[19:37] <jrib> ducktype: i'm just making you aware of things you should take into consideration if you decide to implement this idea of yours.  I don't think it is supported by default but there may be some configuration where you can add directories for cron to watch
[19:37] <bekks> idodeisuke: When you have to ask that - stick with 12.04
[19:37] <ducktype> i only hate to see conservancy of old (and now wrong) design decisions in the linux ecosystem
[19:38] <vlt> idodeisuke: Depends on your needs.
[19:38] <harris> help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:38] <bekks> harris: One punctuation sign is enough.
[19:38] <harris> i need help i dont want my pc to blow up
[19:39] <ducktype> jrib: "may be some configuration where you can add directories for cron to watch" if searched for that, no way all /var/spool/blabal machinery and crontab or other implementation specific commands
[19:39] <bekks> harris: When the ticking gets faster, and the time counts down, run. :)
[19:39] <jrib> ducktype: what?
[19:39] <idodeisuke> vlt, i use it for chatting, dl ing files, watchin movies, reading comic, occasionally the word processor, surf the net, chat, listen to music and stuff. Would it make sense for me to switch?
[19:39] <bekks> harris: Your PC will not blow up - and why dont you just plug in the cable again to make that sound stop?
[19:40] <bekks> ducktype: Ever heard of /etc/cron.d/ ?
[19:40] <ducktype> jrib: "may be some configuration where you can add directories for cron to watch" i've searched for such conf option in cron and other alternatives, no wayimplementation specific commands
[19:40] <ducktype> jrib: "may be some configuration where you can add directories for cron to watch" i've searched for such conf option in cron and other alternatives, no way
[19:40] <harris> can you help me fix it bekks
[19:40] <jrib> ducktype: ok
[19:40] <bekks> harris: I have no clue where it comes from.
[19:40] <idodeisuke> bekks, why so?
[19:41] <ducktype> not so strange, in the linux ecosystem, once implemented no one look ever back
[19:41] <bekks> idodeisuke: Why what?
[19:41] <vlt> idodeisuke: I don't think so. As long as 12.04 is not EOL.
[19:41] <bekks> idodeisuke: 12.04 will be supported until 2017.
[19:41] <ducktype> only kernel devs, user mode linux devs reiterate the same design decision only because is traditional, blah
[19:42] <idodeisuke> bekks, What was the motivation to recommend me to not to switch to 12.10? Would such a switch only make sense for people, who are more developers and experts?
[19:44] <yeats> idodeisuke: not fixing something that's broken is a good rule of thumb.  If you're happy on 12.04, stay there.
[19:45] <sw> Unless you want to upgrade, then you can, it's stable, it's just not LTS.
[19:47] <designbybeck_> disharmonic: I was able to download the NVIDIA drivers and install them. So far so good. I'm running some Blender Renders right now to test out the CUDA Cores!
[19:47] <alusion> How do I get more information about a process? For example: Java is running and using a lot of CPU on PID 2842 and I want to get =more information on what it is doing.
[19:47] <designbybeck_> Thanks for your feedback disharmonic
[19:48] <disharmonic> designbybeck_, np
[19:49] <yeats> alusion: try 'strace'
[19:49] <xentity1x> Hi, I have a laptop running ubuntu with an nvdia quadro k2000. The laptop comes with nvidia optimus. I know this isn't natively supported with linux. I am able to disable it in the bios, but evertime I restart it reenables. Can anyone tell me why it might be doing that. Also does anyone have experience with using bumblebee
[19:54] <|nv|s|b|e> VIDEO: Canonical demonstrates its Ubuntu Phone.. http://www.smartcompany.com.au/information-technology/053634-video-canonical-demonstrates-its-ubuntu-phone.html
[19:54] <|nv|s|b|e> oops, wrong channel, sorry
[19:57] <tuxmascot> If I install Ubuntu 6.0x can I upgrade to 12.04/12.10?
[19:58] <|nv|s|b|e> no
[19:58] <tuxmascot> why?
[19:58] <|nv|s|b|e> 2 many un supported distros
[19:58] <|nv|s|b|e> inbetween
[19:58] <tuxmascot> Ubuntu won't boot from my flash drive for some reason.
[19:59] <|nv|s|b|e> did you try unetbootin ?
[19:59] <tuxmascot> yes
[19:59] <tuxmascot> I did it on a mac
[19:59] <|nv|s|b|e> did you make sure your bios was set to boot from it ?
[19:59] <tuxmascot> I tried to boot from it
[19:59] <tuxmascot> It says Missing Operating System
[19:59] <tuxmascot> Press enter to boot from disk
[20:00] <|nv|s|b|e> ive never used mac, so maybe some one else here who has can help
[20:00] <sw> tuxmascot: 6.* -> 12.10, why? There's obviously a reason why you haven't updated since then?
[20:00] <tuxmascot> no\
[20:00] <tuxmascot> I have a 6.0x disc
[20:00] <tuxmascot> I can install that then upgrade
[20:00] <Feedhurley> is it safe to change in the fstab file? I want to make some new partitions to be able to be mounted and think of write this in my fstab file : "UUID=661B27D7699A34EB /media ntfs-3g"
[20:00] <alusion> Why does chrome decide it wants to run in the background all the time?
[20:01] <tuxmascot> It does that on Windows too
[20:01] <alusion> I don't trust it, but chromium is extremely unstable on my system..
[20:02] <chris|> tuxmascot, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[20:02] <tuxmascot> I'd rather install from flash drive
[20:03] <tuxmascot> Do I just umount my drive
[20:03] <tuxmascot> and dd the iso?
[20:03] <booom> who has a opensource web site?
[20:04] <tuxmascot> Why?
[20:04] <sw> !details | booom
[20:04] <booom> no i run macosx
[20:04] <tuxmascot> First problem
[20:04] <booom> i was searching for news about some good open source web site
[20:04] <Fieldy> is there a way to suspend from the command line? and once i've done that (it will be headless, no kb, mouse, or monitor, just network), can I use wake on lan to cause it to unsuspend?
[20:04] <booom> @tuxmascot problem?
[20:04] <booom> i used ubuntu then passed to macosx
[20:05] <tuxmascot> No, its just extremely off topic
[20:05] <booom> ubuntu 10.3
[20:05] <tuxmascot> This is the Ubuntu support channel
[20:05] <tuxmascot> go to #ubuntu-general
[20:05] <booom> oh thanks
[20:05] <Eagleman> WHy is the Trash folder not created when i connect to my dovecot system?  i can recieve and send emails fine, but the trash folder does not exist
[20:05] <booom> @tuxmascot empty channel :/
[20:05] <Drumitar> i ran a script to setup mpd, but i dont want stop the start up daemon where can i change this ?
[20:06] <tuxmascot> I forget then
[20:06] <tuxmascot> !ot | booom
[20:06] <tuxmascot> oh there you go
[20:06] <hilo> is there a way to make a popup notification happen on the local desktop when an ssh user launches a specific application?
[20:07] <booom> oh ok thx
[20:07] <tuxmascot> hilo: Learn to program it :D
[20:08] <sw> Eagleman: Why would it create a trash folder?
[20:08] <Drumitar> anyone know how to start stop start up daemons in ubuntu ?
[20:08] <Eagleman> sw my previous setup had this, i was able to see the trash folder from anywhere
[20:08] <rhagu> hi, I want to trunk two intel NICs to work with my procurve switch using lacp, does someone know a good howto, that works with 12.04?
[20:09] <sw> Eagleman: It's an IMAP server, not a MUA. You could call the sent folder 'received', for all dovecot cares.
[20:10] <Eagleman> sw, thats the problem. the send folder is created automaticly when i sent something, but when i delete something nothing is created
[20:10] <sw> Eagleman: Create it, then.
[20:11] <sw> Eagleman: Also, you might want to look at this: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Plugins/deleted-to-trash
[20:11] <cirrus]> hello, I know it's stupid and probably answered n times question, but where can I find drivers for Xubuntu for Intel HD Graphics 4000?
[20:11] <Feedhurley> someone who is good at fstab and creating partitions?
[20:11] <bekks> !ask | Feedhurley
[20:12] <sw> Eagleman: You most probably want to take a look in to the #dovecot channel too, as that is no doubt filled with dovecot developers/users who can probably provide more information.
[20:12] <Drumitar> what do you need to know about fstab ?
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, how do we use ndiswrapper to enable a Broadcom BC4311 driver?
[20:12] <Feedhurley> is it safe to change in the fstab file? I want to make some new partitions to be able to be mounted and think of write this in my fstab file : "UUID=661B27D7699A34EB /media ntfs-3g"
[20:13] <bekks> Feedhurley: Thats an incorrect entry for the fstab.
[20:13] <disharmonic> Feedhurley, make a new folder in /media to use as a mount point. Don't use media itself
[20:13] <bekks> Feedhurley: And you should never mount things to /media since thats a directory which is handled by the automounter
[20:13] <sw> cirrus]: Hi, you most probably want to take a look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197418/how-do-i-configure-an-intel-hd-graphics-4000. Maybe that can help you out a bit.
[20:14] <cirrus]> sw, no, I have single graphic card, the Intel one
[20:14] <Feedhurley> bekks do i need to have one folder for each partition?
[20:14] <Feedhurley> disharmonic
[20:14] <cirrus]> I need a driver on it for 3d acceleration
[20:15] <cirrus]> (I guess it's installed, but I want to make sure)
[20:15] <disharmonic> Feedhurley, yes
[20:16] <Feedhurley> was my entry for the fstab file otherwise correct?
[20:16] <disharmonic> bekks, you're sure it matters even if you are using naming for dirs that wont conflict with the automounter?
[20:16] <PigDude> every time i open gnome-terminal it opens in the bottom left corner
[20:16] <Feedhurley> if i change the location to /media/*FOLDERNAME*
[20:16] <PigDude> in fresh ubuntu install
[20:16] <PigDude> why doesn't it remember window position?
[20:17] <PigDude> i'd use xfce if i wanted this behavior :P
[20:17] <sw> Are there any e-mail clients for Ubuntu that as of now does native Exchange connectivity?
[20:19] <RELOL> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-22-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device
[20:19] <RELOL> i cannot install fglrx
[20:19] <disharmonic> Feedhurley, you can also use /mnt/folderName as a mount point afaik
[20:20] <Feedhurley> disharmonic what is afaik?
[20:20] <disharmonic> as far as i know
[20:20] <Feedhurley> disharmonic oh, thought it was some command :P
[20:20] <sw> Are there any e-mail clients for Ubuntu that as of now does native Exchange connectivity?
[20:21] <PigDude> i have another question.
[20:21] <disharmonic> btw the line should be like "UUID=xxxxxxxxx /media/folderName ntfs-3g defaults 0 0"
[20:21] <PigDude> how do i resize my unity dock? it's huge.
[20:21] <PigDude> if this is the wrong channel for such basic questions, let me know..
[20:22] <v73ch-x> 4 excgange connectivity evolution should make the job...
[20:22] <sw> v73ch-x: That's only though IMAP though, right?
[20:22] <PigDude> also, how do i move things in the unity dock?
[20:22] <v73ch-x> I think so
[20:22] <dufa> PigDude: youcan resize the dock in the system settings under appearance
[20:23] <v73ch-x> not sure :s
[20:23] <disharmonic> drag and drop
[20:23] <sw> v73ch-x: Yes, was looking for native Exchange, as in, Microsoft Outlook.
[20:23] <dufa> PigDude: in the behaviour tab
[20:23] <Sefid_par> How should I partition a SD-card in ubuntu?
[20:23] <Sefid_par> Who can give me TFM?
[20:23] <Sefid_par> ;)
[20:23] <PigDude> dufa, oh ok, i didn't see it
[20:23] <gmrple> Attempting to install alongside win8, installer appears to have hung, the install window has been gone for the last 20 min gui still running and I can still drop into alt shells, any ideas on what to do?
[20:24] <PigDude> dufa, there it is :) thank you
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> gmrple: What a pretty you trying to do? Wubi?
[20:24] <dufa> PigDude: glad to help
[20:24] <gmrple> Off liveusb
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Native or Wubi though?
[20:25] <Feedhurley> disharmonic so then i change it from: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1524710/   to : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1524714/
[20:25] <gmrple> Native
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> The installer has been hanging? Uh-oh.
[20:26] <disharmonic> Feedhurley,  properly  the line should be like "UUID=xxxxxxxxx /folderName ntfs-3g defaults 0 0"
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> The best thing to do is wait....
[20:26] <disharmonic> Feedhurley,  properly  the line should be like "UUID=xxxxxxxxx /folderPath ntfs-3g defaults 0 0"
[20:26] <disharmonic> sry
[20:27] <Feedhurley> disharmonic no worries, okey i'll add the zeros
[20:27] <disharmonic> the defaults too
[20:27] <Feedhurley> disharmonic oh! yeah :) thx
[20:29] <Feedhurley> disharmonic do i need to reboot to make it work because now i can't see it in my file manager (nautilus)
[20:29] <PigDude> i have one other question that is not directly an ubuntu question but i hope somebody can help:
[20:29] <gmrple> I'm hoping it's just moving.
[20:29] <disharmonic> Feedhurley, open terminal and type sudo mount -a
[20:30] <gmrple> Files
[20:30] <PigDude> gnome-terminal is not allowing common readline bindings like meta-f to move forward a word, instead it brings up the File menu
[20:30] <PigDude> I don't see the option for this in my profile preferences
[20:30] <PigDude> how do I make alt sent the correct thing and not hit gnome-terminal's menu?
[20:30] <jrib> PigDude: you can disable accelerators in it's options.  One sec
[20:31] <Feedhurley> disharmonic it says that the mount is denied since the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened
[20:31] <PigDude> jrib, i think i found it, Keyboard Shortcuts menu?
[20:32] <disharmonic> you must have automounted it by opening it in Nautilus
[20:32] <disharmonic> unmount it first
[20:32] <PigDude> jrib, yes, this works :^) thanks!
[20:32] <PigDude> i'm surprised by how similar the new ubuntu desktop is to the old "media edition" that was released in 2007
[20:32] <PigDude> w/ the blacks
[20:33] <PigDude> (that one that came w/ the sound/video editing tools)
[20:33] <disharmonic> Feedhurley, see above. Nautilus should have a eject icon next to your windows partition
[20:34] <camara> yahoo
[20:34] <Feedhurley> disharmonic yea, the problem is that the partition is not shown in nautilus... as the other partitions are :/
[20:34] <camara> goddykilo
[20:34] <PigDude> this is i think the best looking ubuntu desktop since, was it 6.06?
[20:34] <PigDude> dapper drake
[20:34] <cirrus]> :< I've reinstalled graphic drivers (found how on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1809995), it didn't do anything except for one thing
[20:35] <cirrus]> my touchpad doesn't work now
[20:35] <cirrus]> how can I fix it?
[20:35] <cirrus]> (I use Xubuntu 12.10)
[20:37] <Luke23ae> hi there
[20:37] <disharmonic> Feedhurley, try sudo umount -U "UUID" or a reboot
[20:37] <Guest91465> hi, I lost center-button copying functionality in my mouse. Klipper does notice text selection but clicking center-button to paste does not work. any ideas?
[20:37] <cirrus]> did the same thing, rebooting :P
[20:38] <Guest91465> keyboard copypasting does work: ctrl-c, ctrl-v
[20:38] <Luke23ae> this is weird, I reinstalled my pc from an older version of ubuntu to a newer version, and where I could install a more recent version of a program (mame 0.145) I can now only install an oder version (0.143) — can anyone explain why that can be?
[20:38] <disharmonic> Guest91465, in terminal it's "shift + ins"
[20:39] <szx> does unity audo hide feature actually work?
[20:39] <szx> seems bugged to me
[20:40] <PigDude> szx, it was a little funky to me
[20:40] <Feedhurley> disharmonic it says that umount -U is not a command, ill try a reboot first. Brb
[20:40] <PigDude> szx, i disabled it and made the icons as small as possible, it looks pretty nice
[20:40] <zwiep`> I'm trying to make a shellscript to add some repositories and install some apps. But for deadbeef I need to change the repo from quantal to precise. Any ideas on how I can implement this in my script?
[20:40] <Guest91465> yes, disharmonic, but I need mouse functionality
[20:41] <jrib> zwiep`: I don't know what you mean by "deadbeef" but I suppose you could possibly use the output of "lsb_release -sc"
[20:42] <PigDude> which packages do I want to install for glib and gtk+ headers?
[20:42] <PigDude> i am teaching myself glib/gtk right now
[20:42] <iLogical> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  can I install full system encryption in a partition from this alternate cd? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  I was able to make a dual boot with windows and uefi
[20:42] <zwiep`> deadbeef is a music player, sorry for the confusion. I know that when I want to install it with apt-get I need to manually change the sources.list file
[20:43] <gmrple> Could probably do it with sed zwiep`
[20:43] <zwiep`> and I when I add a repositorym the default is my lsb_release output, but for some apps I need to change it
[20:44] <jrib> zwiep`: you should be using quantal repositories if you are on quantal
[20:44] <disharmonic> umount is def a cmd
[20:44] <szx> is it possible to switch workspaces without using keyboard?
[20:44] <zwiep`> hm
[20:44] <zwiep`> ok thanks jrib
[20:45] <awestroke> I always get a sysrq prompt in the top left corner. I never figured out that that is what it is before now. I can move the blinking cursor if I do CTRL+ALT+PRNTSCRN/SYSRQ and then doing  ALT+SHIFT, but I can not make it go away. To specify, there is always a blinking black square on the left side of my screen, if I trigger the sysrq prompt I see all of it
[20:45] <awestroke> how do I make it go away?
[20:45] <disharmonic> Guest91465, no. I meant in terminal windows paste is "Shift + Ins" instead of "Ctrl + V"
[20:46] <disharmonic> Guest91465, forget that, i missed your first post
[20:47] <limpc> so, i installed an r8169 network card since ubuntu couldn't find the onboard lag after upgrading my mobo
[20:47] <limpc> dmesg shows the driver for r8169 loaded, and it finds the card.
[20:47] <limpc> but i can't get a dhcp ip on it.
[20:47] <limpc> (its not the router, no other machine is having this problem, and the cable is verified as good)
[20:47] <limpc> any suggestions?
[20:49] <guntbert> !enter | limpc
[20:49] <idodeisuke> Hi, how do I get the amount of space used up by hidden subfolders in a directory?
[20:49] <wookey> My mother pressed 'upgrade' when invited on her lubuntu box. Upgrade failed and she just et's console login prompt. I've managed to get in remotely. What's the recommended way to do upgades when the 'software upgrade' gui tool thing is a) unrunnable b) unseeable?
[20:50] <wookey> is apt-get dist-upgrade my best bet?
[20:50] <wookey> openchrome and fbdev modiules are missing which is why no graphics...
[20:51] <jrib> wookey: do you know how/why it failed?
[20:52] <wookey> jrib: not really
[20:52] <jrib> wookey: what was the old version?  What version did it try to upgrade to?
[20:52] <wookey> it's currenlty pointing at precise. I'm not sure if it was upgrading _to_ precise or from. But I suspect to
[20:52] <hplc> why is it package "vuurmuur" isnt back in repo?, it did get a restart with new project manager and devs as i understand it
[20:52] <wookey> as it was last installed a year or so ago
[20:53] <wookey> Is there a log that the upgrade program generates?
[20:53] <jrib> wookey: there are logs kept in /var/log/dist-upgrade that you may want to check out first.  Presumably, your mother tried to reboot the machine since the upgrade failed?
[20:53] <wookey> yes, many times
[20:54] <tripelb> AnyAnyone  up for helping me get Ubuntu on a. PowerPC Mac? I have tried to Get this lived to boot but don't get past the first text screen.
[20:54] <tripelb> LiveCD
[20:54] <jrib> wookey: yeah your two friends at this point will be "apt-get dist-upgrade" and "dpkg --configure -a".  But I'd try to figure out what went wrong from the logs before deciding on a course of action
[20:55] <wookey> indeed. that pointer to dist-upgrade looks intersting :-)
[20:55] <wookey> what do ubuntu-server people do if upgrades can only be done graphically?
[20:56] <jrib> wookey: do-release-upgrade is a non-graphical way to upgrade
[20:56] <jrib> wookey: I suppose you could try that too.
[20:56] <wookey> aha. useful
[20:56] <boot_problems> Anyone have any experience using newer gigabyte motherboards? i can not dual boot alongside windows
[20:56] <Forty-3> I fucked up my dns
[20:56] <Forty-3> how can I fix it?
[20:56] <jrib> wookey: you should be careful now though because if your upgrade was from 11.10 and now you are on a broken 12.04, you probably don't want the tool to try to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10
[20:57] <Forty-3> this is on ubuntu lts
[20:57] <Forty-3> I get "cannot resolve hostname" from all sityes
[20:58] <wookey> the dist upgrade log says DEBUG found components: {'precise': set(['restricted', 'main', 'multiverse',
[20:58] <boot_problems> i have made a live usb install. it installed, i dont get a grub option or anything different. easy bcd recognized it and still couldnt get it to boot
[20:58] <wookey> DEBUG abort called
[20:58] <wookey> is that a clue?
[21:00] <rhagu> hi, I installed mediatomb on my ubuntu 12.04 server but it starts before the NICs are brought up and therefore wont start. What can i do now?
[21:00] <wookey> The apt.log in 20130102-1652 (day of failed upgrade) says "Log time: 2012-10-15 15:34:53.397186 " which seems odd.
[21:01] <tga> hey, what am I missing out by running x86 on a i5/16G RAM?
[21:01] <wookey> Ah I see each log contains info from state of previous upgrade. fair enough
[21:01] <tga> I see x86 can access all the RAM now, anything major that x64 would do for me?
[21:02] <wookey> tga: go faster doing some things. Use more memory doing everything
[21:02] <fishcooker> hello ubuntu users
[21:02] <fishcooker> how to change language installation to other language?
[21:03] <gmrple> Forced a shutdown from one of the alt shells during the install, looks like it shrunk the win partition without breaking anything :)
[21:03] <Sgeo> Is there a viable path for upgrading from Kubuntu 10.10 to a modern version?
[21:04] <Sgeo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1524824/
[21:04] <Sgeo> Got that error when trying to go to Natty'
[21:04] <tga> wookey: some stuff like vmware player don't seem to like x64 too much, so I'm thinking about just staying with x86
[21:04] <tga> I am using disk encryption so I guess that could be faster
[21:05] <wookey> vmware player is fine on amd64 for me (except every distro upgrade it needs new modules and usually fails to make them itself)
[21:05] <tga> that's good to know
[21:05] <tga> any good reason you're running x64?
[21:05] <wookey> I've bee nusing amd64 for ~7 years now on most of my boxes
[21:06] <wookey> because they are x86_64 machines - it just seemed natural
[21:06] <tga> well, yeah, I understand support has gotten better
[21:06] <wookey> I only discovered a few months ago that there is a memory penalty
[21:06] <tga> flash, java
[21:06] <jnix> anyone handy with hybrid AMD graphics? Trying to get my HD6600 to work so i can play guildwars w/ crossover :)
[21:06] <jnix> HP Envy 15 (3040NR)
[21:06] <wookey> I avoid proprietary flash and java
[21:06] <tga> yeah, well
[21:06] <tga> I'd rather have the option to run them
[21:07] <wookey> they do run. I just don't unless I have to
[21:07] <tga> so again, x86 or x64?
[21:07] <wookey> So no extensive experience.
[21:08] <disharmonic> tga, with x86 no single app can use more 2GB of ram iirc(
[21:09] <wookey> hmm, this machine is full of essential packages that are broken (perl, upstart, module-init-tools, plymouth, libnih). That'll be the problem.
[21:09] <tga> disharmonic: that makes it easy, I'm mostly in virtual machines
[21:10] <tga> oh well, that's a reinstall for me
[21:11] <Sgeo> Is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/ out of date itself?
[21:11]  * Sgeo facepalms
[21:11] <wookey> looks like libc6 is still 2.13 so sysv-rc and grub-pc failed to upgrade
[21:12] <wookey> (they need 2.15). Wonder why that happenned.
[21:12] <gaby> sonikkuamerica:
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> I am here
[21:14] <SonikkuAmerica> I may need help from you guys, stand by:
[21:15] <guntbert> !ask | SonikkuAmerica
[21:15] <jnix> What's the best ubuntu channel to ask for assistance with graphics driver support?
[21:15] <guntbert> jnix: here :)
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> I should've kept my mouth shut... :O
[21:17] <janisozaur> hi, my new mouse has more than plenty buttons i don't really use all of them. what's missing though over my previous model are dedicated buttons to control volume. i'd like to bring them back, so i could press one button that would give this functionality to other buttons (think "shift"/"alt"/"ctrl" but for mouse). how do i do that?
[21:17] <jnix> guntbert, don't suppose you have a guide for configuring hybrid ati graphics do ya?
[21:17] <guntbert> SonikkuAmerica: no, you should ask your real question, not just announce it
[21:18] <guntbert> !ati | jnix try that for a start
[21:18] <jnix> tried that, the driver segfaults, but i had been using 12.10
[21:18] <jnix> i just installed 12.04, going to see if that helps at all :)
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, Gaby and I were discussing an issue involving the broadcom wireless card in her laptop...
[21:20] <adamk> jnix: If the hybrid GPU is supported with the catalyst driver, it will just work after installing the driver and creating an xorg.conf file with 'aticonfig --initial'.  If it doesn't work, it's not supported.  Alternatively, you can check the BIOS to see if you can disable either the intel or AMD GPU.
[21:20] <SonikkuAmerica> We can't get it to work, and she has no ethernet
[21:20] <SonikkuAmerica> For the problem machine that is
[21:20] <jnix> adamk, it works with the catalyst driver under fedora/rhel, trying to familiarize myself with ubuntu.. hope it'll work this time
[21:21] <jnix> didn't have problems building it on rhel but it's using an older version of X and the proprietary driver loaded perfectly, but it's RHEL so they generally do work >.<
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> We tried everything, from the jockey-gtk to the manual .deb file installaition.
[21:22] <jnix> xubuntu rocks my socks and i refuse to go back haha
[21:23] <jnix> so the video driver guide references /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d which doesn't exist on my 12.04 system, this should still work though right?
[21:23] <limpc> guntbert, thanks for being a useless trigger-happy prick.
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !gcc | gaby
[21:24] <cha0s_> can anyone help me with some ffmpeg command issues?
[21:25] <cha0s_> Hello? Anyone?
[21:25] <adamk> No one can help you till you actually ask your question.
[21:25] <dinky> i have a boot stick, how do i get linux on it
[21:25] <dinky> my hard disk doesnt function
[21:26] <oguzhaan> Hello
[21:26] <hilo> hi
[21:27] <oguzhaan> Aramızda Türk arkadaşlar varmı?
[21:27] <janisozaur> !tr | oguzhaan
[21:27] <cha0s_> adamk: been trying to convert video files to work on an innotab 2 for my daughter. have read all the doc i can find and have landed here. http://pastebin.com/wC3ampE6
[21:27] <tripelb> !ask | cha0s_
[21:28] <cha0s_> tripleb: been trying to convert video files to work on an innotab 2 for my daughter. have read all the doc i can find and have landed here. http://pastebin.com/wC3ampE6
[21:30] <cha0s_> Any ideas guys?
[21:30] <tripelb> AnyAnyone  up for helping me get Ubuntu on a. PowerPC Mac? I have tried to Get this LiveCD to boot but don't get past the first text screen.
[21:30] <tripelb> Am I connected?
[21:30] <adamk> cha0s_: Well my fist thought is to remove the -q:v option from the command, since that's clearly where ffmpeg is choking.
[21:31] <oguzhaan> tr?
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Once again: Broadcom mini card is not working on Dell Insp 6400, no internet at all... any suggestions?
[21:31] <DJones> !powerpc | tripelb Yes, you're connected, Can't help with your issue on PowerPC, but maybe the bots link will help,
[21:32] <Cyber_Akuma> Would installing (not just writing the livecd to the flash drive) Ubuntu on a USB 3.0 drive have much of an improvement in performance over 2.0?
[21:32] <cha0s_> adamk: ok this may be a stupid question and if so just bear with me as I dont know alot about Command. But If i remove thoes two portions the -q:v  being one of which, wouldn't it not properly convert the file to what I need?
[21:32] <invariant> Why does Ubuntu distribute broken versions of software when good versions also exist?
[21:32] <yeats> invariant: can you elaborate?
[21:32] <invariant> yeats, cdrecords as distributed with Ubuntu 12.04 does not function.
[21:33] <OerHeks> cha0s_, i think you missed 1 'D'  an > and  >>>  ffmpeg -i " Alvin.avi" -r 65535/2733 -vcodec mpeg4 -vtag XVID -q:v 8 -vf "scale=480:-1" -and -y "video_out.mp4"
[21:33] <invariant> yeats, cdrecord/wodim.
[21:33] <yeats> !bug | invariant
[21:33] <invariant> yeats, the upstream version functions perfectly.
[21:33] <invariant> yeats, it has already been reported, but completely ignored.
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, link to the bug thenm
[21:33] <invariant> yeats, 20 people have said that the upstream version works.
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, link to the ubuntu bug please.
[21:33] <adamk> cha0s_: As I'm not an ffmpeg expert, I have no idea what that option even does, so I can't say if it will or won't convert the file.  But a quick search through the ffmpeg man page shows that -q isn't a valid optiobn.
[21:33] <yeats> invariant: bugs happen - not much to do other than report them
[21:34] <invariant> yeats, this is systematic.
[21:34] <invariant> yeats, I am sure that to some people this is a well known issue.
[21:34] <cha0s_> DerHeks: where am i missing a "D"
[21:34] <invariant> There must be some politics involved.
[21:34] <invariant> Or some stepping on genitals.
[21:35] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, if you have the ubuntu bug number or link please give it to me, if a package is in universe, then its up to the community or upstream to release a fix to Ubuntu (or preferably Debian) to get it fixed, and then the cherry-picked code changes get applied to earlier releases
[21:35] <cha0s_> adamk: ok well I shall try it without the -q:v command and see if anything works
[21:35] <invariant> The author of cdrecord also says that Ubuntu is distributing a broken version.
[21:35] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, being on the bug squad, i can try and help a bit but only if you have the ubuntu bug links/numbers.
[21:35] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, I will have a look.
[21:35] <invariant> TheLordOfTime,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools/+bug/213215
[21:36] <cha0s_> DerHeks: I'm confused
[21:36] <asgillmor> Hi, I just did some package updates and now my display set up is all out of whack.
[21:37] <asgillmor> Specifically, it now only renders in one monitor, and it is a very low resolution
[21:37] <asgillmor> but if i open display, it lists 1920x1200
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, um.....
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, that's not in ubuntu anymore.
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrtools
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> and if it exists, its probably in the partner repository or a restricted repo
[21:37] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, wodim is in Ubuntu.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, the bug you linked to is not.
[21:38] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, it's just a renamed version.
[21:38] <guntbert> !tab | cha0s_ (the nick of your partner is not DerHeks but O...)
[21:38] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, your response is the response of a government worker.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, if you're going to give me attitude, i'll leave you be and not try and help.
[21:39] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, I will just pretend I didn't hear that.
[21:39] <yeats> !attitude | invariant
[21:39] <TheLordOfTime> and what yeats said
[21:39] <guntbert> invariant: keep to ubuntu support please - ranting helps no one
[21:39] <invariant> !clue | yeats
[21:39] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, please understand that you only wasted my time.
[21:39] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, I don't see how you can possibly think you are contributing anything.
[21:40] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, wodim is a broken piece of software.
[21:40] <TheLordOfTime> invariant, the package is in cdrkit source.
[21:40] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, Ubuntu distributes that.
[21:40] <TheLordOfTime> which is a UNIVERSE package.  if you have the UPSTREAM diffs i can look
[21:40] <TheLordOfTime> your attitude is not conducive to me wanting to help you, nor anyone
[21:40] <guntbert> invariant: stop it please
[21:40] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, Ubuntu takes source code that works and turns it into something that doesn't.
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> and now i'm going to instead go figure out why my apt-mirror is failing to mirror packages today.
[21:41] <guntbert> !ops | invariant will not listen and keeps on ranting
[21:41] <invariant> TheLordOfTime, if I compile cdrecord (like many other people have done), it works.
[21:41] <invariant> guntbert, listen to what?
[21:41] <Pricey> invariant: If you think there's a problem with software in ubuntu, have you considered filing a bug report?
[21:42] <k1l_> invariant: please follow the !guidlines and keep this channel clear for support
[21:42] <k1l_> !guidelines > invariant
[21:42] <invariant> guntbert, nobody responded to the extremely incompetent result that currently exist in Ubuntu LTS.
[21:42] <cha0s_> OerHeks,: could you tell me where I ammissing this "D"? I'm confused
[21:42] <invariant> guntbert, how can you possible defend such amateurism?
[21:42] <invariant> Pricey, have you considered reading what I said?
[21:42] <OerHeks> cha0s_, in your command -an should be -and ?
[21:43] <invariant> Where can I talk to actual Ubuntu developers?
[21:43] <cha0s_> OerHeks, Ohhhh. ok thanks. Let me try it. Not the most fluent in commands. just been copying from a tutorial which really isn't helping obviously
[21:43] <invariant> Because you people are of no help at all.
[21:44] <Pricey> invariant: CHeck out http://www.ubuntu.com/community/report-problem
[21:44] <k1l_> invariant: file a bug and contact the maintainers
[21:44] <invariant> k1l_, you failed to read what I said.
[21:45] <invariant> k1l_, why do you say anything about a discussion you clearly didn't read?
[21:45]  * adamk wonders how he managed to be so lucky to have a functioning cdrecord.
[21:45] <IdleOne> invariant: This channel is not for discussion, it is for Ubuntu support, do you have a support question?
[21:47] <WilfredTheGreat> can anyone help me with trying to mount my mdadm raid (other linux distro) while in a live usb harddrive environment? please dm
[21:51] <tripelb> Invariant there is another channel of interest, #ubuntu-offtopic for other than specific the h help. Good luck. I see something is frustrating for you and you want to get it working.
[21:52] <tripelb> AnyAnyone  up for helping me get Ubuntu on a. PowerPC Mac? I have tried to Get this LiveCD to boot but don't get past the first text screen.
[21:52] <tripelb> Which is yaboot
[21:53] <wojtek_> adi
[21:54] <marcel_> #ubuntustudio
[21:54] <wojtek_> co słychać ?
[21:54] <DJones> !pl | wojtek_
[21:55] <hplc> anyone that can tell me why package "vuurmuur" isnt in standard repo anymore?
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> hplc: Maybe that's why.
[21:56] <SonikkuAmerica> What the heck is that?
[21:56] <wojtek_> #ubuntu-pl
[21:57] <k1l> wojtek_: do a "/join #ubuntu-pl"
[21:57] <hplc> SonikkuAmerica, that didnt make any sense at all, because of.......what?
[21:57] <SonikkuAmerica> What is vuurmuur?
[21:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Sorry I didn't clarify before
[21:58] <hplc> SonikkuAmerica, a CLI ncurses like frontend to iptables
[22:00] <steve---w> test - please could someone acknowledge - not sure if I'm authorized to post.
[22:00] <IdleOne> we see you
[22:00] <steve---w> :) thanks
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Welcome to the #ubuntu channel, how may we help you steve---w?
[22:01] <FlashFire> hello, can someone help me?
[22:01] <steve---w> you've done all I needed already thanks. tried posting in the #webkit channel and they ignored me.
[22:02] <steve---w> wasn't sure if it was programmer elitism or my connection.
[22:02] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:02] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:02] <k1l> hplc: seems like it was just in 10.04 and just as a debian package. so im not really surprised its not supported anymore
[22:02] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:02] <bekks> FlashFire: It will run slow. It is USB2 most likely.
[22:02] <FloodBot1> FlashFire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <steve---w> ubuntu rocks by the way so whilst I'm here thanks for all your great work
[22:02] <bennett1> Hi! Can anyone tell me the command to view a list of the ports of my system, and which program is using each of them?
[22:03] <k1l> bennett1: use netstat for that
[22:03] <hplc> k1l, so its abandonware now?
[22:03] <bennett1> k1l: ty
[22:03] <iLogical> how can I use the alternate 12.10 live cd and install ubuntu with full disk encryption
[22:03] <iLogical> ?
[22:03] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:03] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:04] <tetris999> slow is subjective
[22:04] <tetris999> :/
[22:04] <FlashFire> subjective?
[22:04] <k1l> FlashFire: dont spam the channel please.
[22:04] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:04] <bekks> FlashFire: Stop spamming the channel please.
[22:05] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:05] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:05] <FlashFire> I'm installing ubuntu on a 16GB usb stick and I was wondering if it will run slow? I have read problems about ubuntu running slow on usb sticks.
[22:05] <FloodBot1> FlashFire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <FloodBot1> FlashFire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <billfeld> Vuurmuur is a powerful firewall manager built on top of ​iptables on Linux. - That's all Iknow... :-)
[22:07] <FireBeard> wow, this channel grew...
[22:07] <k1l> hplc: see http://www.vuurmuur.org/trac/wiki/InstallationDebian
[22:07] <hplc> k1l, ok
[22:07] <FireBeard> anyway, why do I have to actually physically BANG my mouse into activity?
[22:07] <FireBeard> anybody know?
[22:08] <FireBeard> I have to smash my mouse onto something, to make it active again after a while of inactivity
[22:08] <Eagleman> How do i prevent the user jrpoot to recieve mail on both jrpoot@jrpoot.eu and on jrpoot@eagleman.net in postfix ?
[22:09] <bazzix> Hello
[22:09] <FireBeard> Eagleman: just put those on an ignore list..?
[22:09] <FireBeard> :?
[22:11] <FireBeard> does this channel help anything or anyone?
[22:11] <FireBeard> or is it just joins and quits?
[22:11] <Eagleman> !ask
[22:11] <FireBeard> I asked a question
[22:11] <schultza> lovely.. wine is invite only!?
[22:11] <Eagleman> just wait then :P, nobody knows the answer
[22:12] <FireBeard> I'm sure people know
[22:12] <FireBeard> I used to be a regular here, years ago
[22:12] <schultza> i just joined this channel, firebeard.. what was your question.
[22:12] <Eagleman> looks more like an hardware issue to me
[22:12] <FireBeard> actually, I've heard more people talking about this
[22:13] <schultza> !winetrick
[22:13] <schultza> !winetricks
[22:13] <k1l> FireBeard: is it a bluetooth mouse? does that mouse have a batterysaving standby?
[22:14] <FireBeard> my question is: why do I have to phisically BANG my Logitech laser mouse to make it active and work again after a few mins?
[22:14] <schultza> if anyone is in the #wine (wine is not an emulator) channel, can i please have an invite? if not? why is it invite only lately?
[22:14] <FireBeard> I've had to do this with several mice
[22:14] <schultza> FireBeard: you shouldnt have to "bang" any hardware to get it to work
[22:14] <DJones> schultza: If you were looking for the wine channel, its #winehq it may be that only registered users can access it though
[22:14] <Eagleman> schultza are you logged in on irc?
[22:14] <k1l> FireBeard: ok, i count it as a hardware mailfunction
[22:14] <FireBeard> all LASER Logitec mice
[22:14] <DJones> !register | schultza
[22:14] <schultza> is the light reader blocked?
[22:15] <schultza> im registered with nickserv
[22:15] <FireBeard> I've had to do this since 9.xx
[22:15] <FireBeard> so it's not new to me
[22:15] <schultza> re: #wine - YOU (schultza) have been booted from #wine by ChanServ (Invite only channel)
[22:16] <DJones> schultza: As I said earlier, the wine channel is #winehq
[22:16] <FireBeard> and yes, I have to PHYSICALLY bang my mouse in order to make it work again [10.04]
[22:16] <schultza> DJones: thanks
[22:16] <FireBeard> same goes for THREE mice I've tried
[22:16] <FireBeard> so, what's up?
[22:16] <hiccup> !ask where can I learn more about installing linux with windows 8?
[22:17] <schultza> firebeard: does it work with another OS or computer without the physical altercations?
[22:17] <DJones> !uefi | hiccup
[22:17] <escott> hiccup, what exactly is your question?
[22:17] <FireBeard> schmidtm: I don't know
[22:17] <FireBeard> I only use linux
[22:17] <FireBeard> I don't have Windows to test with
[22:17] <hiccup> I've not installed linux since pre-uefi, so there's plenty I don't understand. Just wanting a guide, I guess.
[22:18] <escott> hiccup, rodsbooks.com does a good job describing gpt partitioning
[22:18] <addicat> Hello, Does anyone have several minutes to help me mount an ubuntu-server NFS share from OS X 10.8? I'm pretty far along in the process and got stuck when google stopped offering help. I can view the export from my client terminal with show mount -e ser.ver.i.p. Thanks!
[22:18] <addicat> My server's hosts files are set up to enable all connections (until I get it working)
[22:19] <hiccup> hey, thanks =)
[22:20] <schultza> FireBeard: are the mice you are using wireless?
[22:21] <FireBeard> yes
[22:21] <escott> hiccup, numerous commentators have addressed the secureboot stuff
[22:21] <schultza> as i know, wireless mice tend to hibernate when not in use and have to wake up by use before they start sending data to the OS... i have one that does that
[22:21] <Eagleman> Thanks for the suggestion FireBeard,, i got it working now
[22:22] <FireBeard> schultza: I know that, but why do I have to actually BANG them to wake up again?
[22:22] <Eagleman> How do i allow the user jrpoot to login on jrpoot@jrpoot.eu and deny login on jrpoot@eagleman.net in postfix ?
[22:23] <FireBeard> I've tried three mice, and all three need the bang to wake up again..
[22:23] <FireBeard> I smash them on my leg to make them wake up
[22:23] <schultza> that's is ridiculous to need to bang them. Eagleman may be right. it may just be a hardware issue.
[22:24] <FireBeard> I'm not lying...
[22:24] <FireBeard> I actually have to do that
[22:24] <FireBeard> :0
[22:24] <schultza> im not saying you are... right now. i dont know what the problem is why they need that blunt force trauma to wake up
[22:24] <hiccup> man, if you have cats, i feel for them
[22:24] <Eagleman> lol
[22:25] <schultza> hiccup: what was just horrible.
[22:25] <FireBeard> it's like one of those bouncy balls with lights in them, and when you bounce them hard enough, the ligts start working
[22:25] <schultza> s/what/that
[22:25] <hiccup> well they get all nice and comfortable and take naps like cats do
[22:25] <schultza> lol
[22:25] <hiccup> and then the mice fall asleep and require percussive maintenance
[22:25] <FireBeard> I really am not lying...
[22:26] <schultza> we are NOT saying your are lying..
[22:26] <FireBeard> it's implied ;)
[22:26] <hiccup> I believe you- weird hardware issues suck
[22:26] <schultza> my grammer is horrible today.. ill go back to bed.
[22:26] <FireBeard> nah, I'm just saying it is how it is :D
[22:26] <FireBeard> gheh
[22:26] <FireBeard> with 3 different mice...
[22:26] <FireBeard> it's amazing
[22:26] <Eagleman> all logitech you said?
[22:26] <FireBeard> yes
[22:27] <schultza> well, i guess im staying away from logitech mice for awhile longer
[22:27] <Eagleman> Why not buy another brand, would be the easiest solution
[22:27] <escott> FireBeard, have you tried just pressing a button to see if that wakes it up?
[22:27] <FireBeard> I actually LOVE Logitech, becsuse the hardware ALWAYS works
[22:27] <FireBeard> escott: yes
[22:27] <schultza> in this case.. it has to be forcefully coerced to work beautifully
[22:27] <FireBeard> I've pressed every button available
[22:28] <schultza> pun intended
[22:28] <FireBeard> and then moving it
[22:28] <FireBeard> gheh
[22:28] <FireBeard> it\'s the strangest thing
[22:28] <disharmonic> The actual lesson is "stay away from wireless mice" :p
[22:28] <schultza> good point
[22:28] <FireBeard> I hate wirefull mice
[22:28] <FireBeard> so I'll keep using wireless
[22:28] <schultza> wireless anything gets lost too often, especially with cats
[22:29] <FireBeard> no no, it's VERY consistent
[22:29] <FireBeard> once banged, it's awake
[22:29] <FireBeard> for hours on end
[22:29] <DJones> FireBeard: Don't know if this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/161657/wireless-mouse-temporarily-freezes-sleeps-on-battery-power
[22:29] <FireBeard> it's just when I haven't used it for a couple of hours that it needs a bang
[22:29] <schultza> ah, something i didnt know
[22:30] <schultza> the wireless mouse i have actually has a switch on the bottom to turn it off/on (separate of the sync). that mouse has been more consistent when i need it
[22:30] <FireBeard> my pc's do NOT go into sleep mode
[22:30] <schultza> however that wireless mouse does.
[22:31] <FireBeard> schmidtm: mine does aswell
[22:31] <disharmonic> your mouse does though
[22:31] <computer> Hi. Simple question = Is it possible to enable Unity 2d on most recent version of Ubuntu Studio?
[22:31] <FireBeard> but why shut it off when it does that all by itself?
[22:31] <bobweaver> computer not a simple question but what is lastest Ubuntu studio ?
[22:31] <schultza> it's a nicer wake up option than your leg :)
[22:32] <bobweaver> Like whta is it based off 12.04 ect
[22:32] <FireBeard> I still have to bang it
[22:32] <computer> 12.04.1 LTS
[22:32] <sheep_> hi, I deleted a large number of packages from my netbook (I switched to xubuntu) and now x complains about low graphics mode on startup, however if I log in at the console and startx it works, any ideas?
[22:32] <schultza> even with the switch?
[22:32] <disharmonic> 12.04 has Unity 2D yes
[22:32] <FireBeard> I ACTUALLY have to bang the mouse on something, to make it wake up
[22:32] <bobweaver> computer,  then yes you can if it is 12,04
[22:32] <bobweaver> computer,  what are you doing with unity 2d ?
[22:32] <computer> Not in Log on menu? Tried install but nothing?
[22:33] <disharmonic> FireBeard, does the mouse have a usb transmitter?
[22:33] <hiccup> man, you can't be the only one with that issue- have you submitted something to logitech?
[22:33] <FireBeard> disharmonic: yes, it's a wireless USB mouse by Logitech
[22:33] <bobweaver> computer,  what does        apt-cache policy unity-2d-shell          say ?
[22:33] <disharmonic> So have you tried removing the stick and reinserting it?
[22:34] <bobweaver> or computer  what happens when you type into the terminal     unity-2d-shell
[22:34] <FireBeard> disharmonic: that's the same amount of action I have to do to wake up the mouse
[22:34] <computer>  Installed: 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.2
[22:34] <computer>   Candidate: 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.2
[22:34] <computer>   Version table:
[22:34] <computer>  *** 5.12.0-0ubuntu1.2 0
[22:34] <computer>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages
[22:34] <computer>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:34] <FloodBot1> computer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <k1l> FireBeard: like i told you. they have a standby that needs some time to wake up
[22:34] <FireBeard> if not even more...
[22:35] <FireBeard> true, but why do they need an actual bang
[22:35] <marcusbaird> hey guys aubuntu phone os interview  with twil and johnobacon
[22:35] <marcusbaird> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu98c6EzEhI
[22:35] <FireBeard> that is my question
[22:35] <disharmonic> FireBeard, yes but it's physically less damaging to the mouse
[22:35] <k1l> FireBeard: you need to ask that logitech
[22:35] <bobweaver> good computer  now if you type in    unity-2s-shell  does it start ?
[22:35] <k1l> FireBeard: its not an ubuntu issue
[22:35] <FireBeard> I never had this with Windows
[22:36] <schultza> why not rapidly moving the mouse about (no bang) for a few more seconds and wait for it to wake up?
[22:36] <bobweaver> unity2d-shell  that is computer not unity-2s-shell lol
[22:36] <FireBeard> and I didn't install Logitech software on my linux machines
[22:36] <schultza> if there is some gyro detect for use, more rapidly moving may jar it awake than the bang
[22:36] <machicola> what command line tools/programs can I use to manage network connections? i know there seem to be many to observe the network and network status but are there any to set default connections/network keys... manually connect or disconnect, etc.
[22:36] <disharmonic> There's no linux version of logitech software that i'm aware of
[22:36] <bobweaver> computer,  if it launchs look at xsession if you do not know what them files are remove it and re-install it
[22:37] <bekks> machicola: NetworkManager is available as CLI too.
[22:37] <FireBeard> schultza: I can unsterstand that, but the mice I have must be too old to have those sensors...
[22:37] <escott> machicola, nmcli to use existing connections created by NM
[22:37] <FireBeard> especially at those prices...
[22:37] <Tropetre> Hi all!
[22:38] <machicola> bekks, escott : ok, thankyou, will look into these
[22:38] <FireBeard> 'lo
[22:38] <k1l> FireBeard: again, talk to logitech first
[22:38] <FireBeard> I did
[22:38] <FireBeard> they have no idea
[22:38] <Tropetre> Quick question: Where is the MD5 for Ubuntu 12.10 :)
[22:39] <bobweaver> !md5sum
[22:39] <FireBeard> on the website
[22:39] <FireBeard> ;)
[22:39] <escott> !hashes
[22:39] <schultza> he's asking about using it in linux
[22:39] <escott> Tropetre, ^
[22:39] <FireBeard> yay for the bot :D
[22:39] <Tropetre> tRIED TO FIND IT BUT DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE, tHANKS!
[22:39] <ProfessorDavis> hello all, i'm hoping someone can answer this question. Is there a terminal command that will remove the recent documents list from the dash?
[22:39] <Tropetre> Caps, sorry!
[22:39] <Eagleman> reverse capslocking
[22:39] <FireBeard> no problem
[22:39] <escott> ProfesorBacon, i believe it is a file in ~/.config
[22:40] <computer> ok where is xsession? Not sure what to do with paste bin?
[22:40] <FireBeard> ProfesorBacon: is here too?
[22:40] <FireBeard> oh god
[22:40] <schultza> Tropetre: md5sum is the program you are looking for
[22:40] <Ziber> Using command line arguments, I want to parse out free/used/total RAM. How can I get the second item (separated by spaces) in output?
[22:41] <FireBeard> you can always check it via your terminal :)
[22:41] <bekks> Ziber: ... | awk '{ print $2; }'
[22:41] <ProfessorDavis> any idea where it be under .config escott?
[22:41] <schultza> paste bin is a website log site that will give us a url to look at rather than read multiple lines in the irc channel
[22:41] <Ziber> awk, thanks
[22:41] <disharmonic> FireBeard,  a quick google shows some people having similar issues on Windows
[22:42] <FireBeard> disharmonic: my mouse thing?
[22:42] <schultza> ziber, have you looked into xargs?
[22:42] <FireBeard> :?
[22:42] <bobweaver> computer,  if you do not know much about messing around with xsessions files I say do not mess with it. Just re-install unity 2d and see if that works
[22:42] <FireBeard> I've searched a lot, and got tired
[22:42] <disharmonic> It pains me to admit it, but MS makes the most reliable peripherals
[22:42] <FireBeard> actually., no
[22:42] <disharmonic> Yes, no solutions that i saw though
[22:43] <FireBeard> it's just that Ubu does not make peripherals at all
[22:43] <schultza> disharmonic: including gamer mice?
[22:43] <FireBeard> so
[22:43] <computer> Yes but pastebin asking me to log in :( What's the best command to install unity 2d again?
[22:43] <FireBeard> we're at least a decade behind
[22:44] <disharmonic> schultza, hard to say. Haven't tried any of their gamer mice.
[22:44] <DJones> FireBeard: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=643
[22:44] <bobweaver> computer,  sudo apt-get --purge remove unity-2d && sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[22:44] <FireBeard> DJones: ok
[22:44] <disharmonic> computer, use paste.ubuntu.com
[22:44] <sheep_> hi, I deleted a large number of packages from my netbook (I switched to xubuntu-desktop) and now x complains about low graphics mode on startup, however if I log in at the console and startx it works, any ideas? (12.10)
[22:44] <bobweaver> computer,  I have a altered Unity 2d if you would like to try it
[22:44] <hiccup> curious, it is branded with the ubuntu logo, but who makes it?
[22:44] <hiccup> am i missing something?
[22:44] <FireBeard> that's probably made by a hardware company that knows what it does
[22:44] <dr_willis> removeing/reinstalling unity-2d will not reset the users settings
[22:45] <FireBeard> and not by Canonical that does not
[22:45] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  in unity 2d xsession ?
[22:45] <computer> I can work most things out but finding the right info is a '%&*$£%$........Thanks I'll try that.
[22:45] <FireBeard> not even a guess
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Bob Weaver, computer : also [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-2d ]
[22:45] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  the apt package system does not every touch stuff in the users home.
[22:45] <k1l> FireBeard: can we take your hardware issue into the offtopic channel? thank you
[22:45] <bobweaver> dr_willis, xsessions are under /usr
[22:46] <FireBeard> we're talking about the link posted, now
[22:46] <Tropetre> It matched! (MD5SUM) Thank you! Now I just have to figure out why my installation where so odd.. Is there any common reason the GUI doesn't appear but cursor and background is visible and when I installed it there was an error with icons, they only showed up after I dragged the windows off screen for a sec.
[22:46] <FireBeard> not my issue
[22:46] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  and thats not in the USERS home..
[22:46] <FireBeard> although my issue is very much ontopic
[22:46]  * bobweaver is lost on that one I mean I have a deep root in unity2d and that makes no sense to me at all 
[22:47] <bobweaver> Unity 2d has nothing at all to do with users $HOME
[22:47] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  common reason unity/compiz dosent like your video card/drivers 3d stuff. so it fails to load completely
[22:47] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  the users $home has settings for unity wich often cause issues
[22:47] <bobweaver> Unity 2d does not use compiz
[22:47] <FireBeard> k1l we can take it outside, if that's what you want...
[22:48] <dr_willis> I never said it did.
[22:48] <Tropetre> dr_willis: So... do I just install a new GUI or what do I do? :S
[22:48] <iLogical> can i use system encryption with the alternate cd?
[22:48] <FireBeard> may I just say that your nick is next to useless to autocomplete?
[22:48] <jord333> hi
[22:48] <bobweaver> I have made my own unity 2d many many times I am lost here
[22:48] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  or double check your video card drivers are working properly./ I always have backup guis to use.
[22:48] <jord333> I think ubuntu website is down http://team.ubuntu.ru/   is not loading
[22:48] <iLogical> (it's the one which reads uefi partitions)
[22:48] <bobweaver> Oh dr_willis  I see we are talking to 2 different people lol
[22:49] <IdleOne> !ru | jord333
[22:49] <Tropetre> dr_willis: I have to look up a bit on my drivers! Thank you for the help, kind sir! :)
[22:49] <mgodzilla> hello.  i've got a eeepc 701 that i'm tryin' to get online.
[22:49] <k1l> jord333: its loading here
[22:49] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  common test for any problems is to make a new user - see if the problem still happens to them.
[22:49] <mgodzilla> installed eeebuntu 2.0 - but not more lts for juanty
[22:49] <mgodzilla> anyone ever updated one of these to 10.04?
[22:49] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  if the styff works with a new user - that points to a  setting issue in the problem users home.
[22:49] <donttrustem> Just tried to install 12.4 lts on my acer aspire one and I get a black screen on boot up and nothing else
[22:49] <bodhi1> hi
[22:49] <jord333> ok thanks k1l it's just me then
[22:50] <dr_willis> mgodzilla:  upgrading a non-ubuntu supported variant to a ubuntu  is not a good idea
[22:50] <Tropetre> dr_willis: How would I do that if I'm in terminal? Can't get to any menus :P
[22:50] <iLogical> which mirror can I use for therse extra dot something?
[22:50] <FireBeard> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=643 who would ANYTHING LIKE THAT use that as an everyday mouse?
[22:50] <iLogical> I didn't find any which worked
[22:50] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  by using the rm command or mv to move the various config files/dirs
[22:50] <donttrustem> How do I reinstall ubuntu
[22:50] <mgodzilla> ok.  thx.
[22:50] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  if you want to move/remove settings.
[22:50] <MDKwlan> Tropetre, ctrl+alt+t open term
[22:50] <computer> Ok. Re-installed Unity 2D.....Is that all....Just log out...Choose 2D and log in yes?
[22:50] <FireBeard> that thing is completely useless
[22:50] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  adding a new user -->  sudo adduser billgates
[22:51] <bobweaver> yes computer
[22:51] <IdleOne> FireBeard: Do you have a support question that is Ubuntu related?
[22:51] <Tropetre> dr_willis: Wouldn't that cause problems with access to files?
[22:51] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  its a test... its only a test.
[22:51] <computer> Ok will try.......Thanks :)
[22:51] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  if a new user works - that shows its a setting issue.
[22:51] <FireBeard> IdleOne: I was reacting to a Ubuntu mouse somebody posted
[22:51] <FireBeard> gheh
[22:51] <disharmonic> FireBeard, that looks really uncomfortable
[22:52] <Tropetre> dr_willis:  Okay! I'll try! Wait a sec :P
[22:52] <FireBeard> it does, doesn't it
[22:52] <bobweaver> computer,  come back if you have any issues
[22:52] <FireBeard> my point exactly
[22:52] <IdleOne> FireBeard: ok, Can we keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:52] <hiccup> is it….flat?
[22:52] <FireBeard> IdleOne: I'm still just reacting
[22:53] <gustav__> Isn't #ubuntu-offtopic invite-only?
[22:53] <IdleOne> FireBeard: I'm going to react soon also if you don't stop with the non-support commentary
[22:53] <FireBeard> mo
[22:53] <FireBeard> or I'm just an old fart
[22:53] <bobweaver> lol IdleOne
[22:53] <FireBeard> he pissy ;)
[22:53] <Tropetre> dr_willis:  Might take a while... I just changed the hard drive so I'll have to switch back.. :P
[22:54] <disharmonic> gustav__, no
[22:54] <donttrustem> What version supports the acer aspire one AO751h
[22:55] <disharmonic> maybe a bit heavy handed that
[22:56] <Slart> donttrustem: you could try the live cd for the newest version ie 12.10
[22:56] <Slart> donttrustem: live cd = install cd
[22:56] <davidokner> I'm getting graphical glitches with Ubuntu 3d
[22:56] <kelvinella> Hi
[22:56] <Slart> donttrustem: or you could try some of the more common workarounds like noapic, noapci etc
[22:56] <computer> Ok. Tried that but no Unity 2D Session on drop down list at log in????????
[22:56] <donttrustem> Start how do I reinstall
[22:57] <bobweaver> computer,  what does that flavor use lightdm ?
[22:57] <dr_willis> donttrustem:  Normal Ubuntu/Unity works on my 2 netbooks fine.
[22:57] <Slart> donttrustem: the same way you installed it in the first place, I would assume
[22:57] <MDKwlan> reinstall ubuntu? donttrustem?
[22:57] <bobweaver> computer,  I mean does Ubuntu Studio use lightdm or gdm ?
[22:57] <computer> Terminal code to find out?
[22:58] <donttrustem> dr_willis: I am trying the install again
[22:58] <donttrustem> 12.04
[22:58] <Tropetre> dr_willis: It's the card :( I presume. *Sigh* This is usually a pain! Thanks for the help anyways! :)
[22:58] <kelvinella> davidokner: which netbook?
[22:58] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  whats your video card?
[22:58] <bobweaver> computer,  install Lightdm     sudo apt-get install lightdm    and when you get to the blue screen that asks if you want to use lightdm or gdm   make the choice of light dm then reboot
[22:59] <donttrustem> It seems to install fine but when it boots I get the purple screen then a black screen ...  That it
[22:59] <ProfessorDavis> Hello, another quick question
[22:59] <davidokner> kelvinella: I'm running on a high end iMac with parallels.
[22:59] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | donttrustem
[22:59] <computer> Ok
[22:59] <rimas> is there a way to cap cpu usage of a process? it has priority 'very low', but still uses too much cpu when other programs do not need it. I'd like to make it "priority: very low; max cpu: 30%"
[22:59] <Tropetre> dr_willis: Geforce Ti 4400
[22:59] <xbskid> Is software-center.ubuntu.com undergoing maintenance or something? I'm trying to redeem coupons from the latest Humble Bundle and I keep getting 500/Server errors
[23:00] <kelvinella> Oh because my brothers Dell mini 10 does have issue with ubuntu 12.04
[23:00] <Tropetre> dr_willis: I presume that's legacy drivers?
[23:00] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  you installed the nvidia-current package to get nvidia drivers?
[23:00] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  i dont know what cards use what drivers any more
[23:00] <ProfessorDavis> is there a way to list file to a list form instead of file icons, similar to OSX?
[23:00] <computer> lightdm is already the newest version
[23:00] <kelvinella> Maybe the video card it's an intel card
[23:00] <ProfessorDavis> i can't seem to find a way to do this
[23:00] <ProfessorDavis> any help would be greatly appreciated
[23:00] <dr_willis> ProfessorDavis:  list file to a list?
[23:00] <Tropetre> dr_willis: No, I'll try to :) I understand. It's a pain in the ***!
[23:00] <dr_willis> The Nautilus file manager has a view list  option.
[23:01] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  i rarely have issues with my 4 nvidia systems.
[23:01] <ProfessorDavis> is that the default file manager?
[23:01] <dr_willis> ProfessorDavis:  yes/.
[23:01] <dr_willis> Most every file manager ive seen has a file list option
[23:01] <computer> would i have to use apt-remove first
[23:02] <Tropetre> dr_willis: How would I remove the test-account?
[23:02] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  that Addational-drivers tool should suggest the proper 3d driver for your card.  You could just install openbox to get a working desktop. then try the  addditional-drivers tool
[23:02] <ProfessorDavis> for instance if i go the go>downloads i see the files
[23:02] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  Never really noticed. ;) deluser i think
[23:02] <cakeboss> Hey all. How do I open a .ppm file in ubuntu?
[23:02] <ProfessorDavis> if i right click i want a "list"option or an icon on the window that will do that
[23:02] <ProfessorDavis> but i see neither
[23:02] <bobweaver> computer,  make sure that it is in use      sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[23:02] <ProfessorDavis> is this something i need to setup in sys pref?
[23:03] <dr_willis> ProfessorDavis:  check the menus at the top panel. Nautiluys definatly has a show files in a list option
[23:03] <dr_willis> !manual | ProfessorDavis
[23:03] <computer> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[23:03] <Tropetre> dr_willis: Okay! Removing user and installing openbox and then trying additional drivers! I'll be back in a couple of minutes :P
[23:03] <computer> sorry wrong box :)
[23:03] <dr_willis> Theres most likely some key-combo to have the file manager show in list mode also. but i dont rember it
[23:03] <cakeboss> I don't know why I can't open it
[23:04] <donttrustem> dr_willis: Thanks... I cannot view the whole page on my iPad :(
[23:05] <ProfessorDavis> i found it
[23:05] <ProfessorDavis> i just you have to do it from the menu
[23:05] <ProfessorDavis> it would nice if you could choose on the window, similarly to OSX
[23:05] <ProfessorDavis> thanks everyone
[23:05] <dr_willis> not everything has to be a clone of osx
[23:05] <Stephini> hey my spouse's computer has a messed up internal keyboard that randomly strikes keys, we fixxed this in windows by force loading incompatible drivers rendering it dissabled. is there an easy way to disable said keyboard in linux?
[23:06] <MDKwlan> It's ctrl+2 for listing
[23:06] <dr_willis> actually i think it used to be on that main menu. and they cleaned it out. ;)
[23:06] <computer> Ok did reconfigure lightdm....Didn't say anything.....Just new command line.....Now what?
[23:06] <dr_willis> Or you need to click in a specific open white space spot
[23:06] <MDKwlan> I'm using gnome fallback idk if its the same for unity
[23:06] <bobweaver> computer,  sudo service lightdm restart
[23:07] <tomasm-> hi, is there a way to get NetworkManager to ALWAYS preserve DNS, ie not touch /etc/resolv.conf, or at least use 127.0.0.1 for all network connections? I have an android phone that I tether with and it takes the DNS from the dhcp server. even if I manually override the connection settings (going to Connection Info->IPv4 Settings -> Method -> Automatic (DHCP) Addresses Only), next time I plug in, it creates a NEW connection, ie Wired Connection
[23:07] <tomasm-> 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6, etc and NEVER keeps the existing. Can network-manager have a global config file option to always use a localhost dns?
[23:10] <ProfessorDavis> dr_willis: no, but you must admit, it would be useful, as a designer sometimes i did to look at photos, and sometimes text documents, so switching on the fly is nice, regardless of what OS it is
[23:10] <dr_willis> ProfessorDavis:  they removed that item i belive.. they want a cleaner look
[23:10] <cocomo> where can i find graphic driver settings in ubuntu 12.10
[23:10] <dr_willis> ProfessorDavis:  they expect you to use hotkeys i guess..
[23:10] <Slart> tomasm-: you can set a dns to try before trying the one handed to you from dhcp.. I think it's a setting the dhcp client.. pre somthing
[23:11] <ProfessorDavis> if you use the hotkeys do you need to reboot the window?
[23:11] <MDKwlan> Are you using proprietary hardware cocomo?
[23:11] <cocomo> i am using nvidia geforce 210
[23:11] <escott> Stephini, you could remove the keyboard from the input devices with xinput
[23:11] <dr_willis> Reboot the window?
[23:11] <cocomo> i want to test other driver options
[23:12] <cocomo> because my game is crashing regularly
[23:12] <MDKwlan> Do you have the proprietary driver installed?
[23:12] <cocomo> no
[23:12] <Stephini> escott i'm guessing xinput is a CLI arg?
[23:12] <riderplus> hi. anyone familiar with midori web-browser?
[23:12] <cocomo> ubuntu installed the graphics driver by itself
[23:12] <MDKwlan> Well I'd assume that would be why your game is  crashing then.
[23:12] <computer> OK. Did "restart lightdm" and crashed....Rebooted......Still no 2D Unity at Log In screen?
[23:12] <ProfessorDavis> i had to close the window and reopen it see the display changes when i made them in the menu preferences. If i used the hotkeys would i need to do something similarly?
[23:12] <riderplus> the #midori channel seems dead
[23:13] <cocomo> so i should download drivers from nvidia website
[23:13] <cocomo> it doesn't just crashes my game but my whole computer hangs and needs to be restarted
[23:13] <MDKwlan> I use ati/amd and I just download it from the additional drivers program already installed
[23:14] <MDKwlan> but I'm not sure because nvida is better supported. I'd go with the one from their site.
[23:14] <azrael_> guten abend meint autostart scheint zu spinnen es öffnen sich immer bluefish dokument-betrachter und firefox hab xubuntu 12.10 und keine autostart einträge finden können
[23:14] <cocomo> MDKwlan: i can't find that additional drivers settings wizard on ubuntu 12.10
[23:14] <cocomo> can u guide me? am using 12.10
[23:15] <dr_willis> ProfessorDavis:  they chagne the file listing when i use the keys here.. did you even try them?
[23:15] <Slart> tomasm-: here it is.. it's called prepend and it goes into the dhclient configuration file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1372942
[23:15] <MDKwlan> I pm'd you cocomo.
[23:15] <dr_willis> Using the .run driver from nvidias site should be the last drivers you try
[23:15] <MDKwlan> ^
[23:15] <Stephini> is there a way on 2 monitor setup to have each one have it's own selectable workspaces? my partner asked me abotu that when i was showing her how workspaces work.
[23:16] <dr_willis> cocomo:  its in the software-sources tool. in the last tab
[23:16] <xbskid> What can I use on Ubuntu 12.10 for configuring firewall rules on a per-program basis?
[23:16] <MDKwlan> If you're using unity just look for additional dirvers
[23:16] <computer> OK. Did "restart lightdm" and crashed....Rebooted......Still no 2D Unity at Log In screen?
[23:16] <dr_willis> Stephini:  its normally one WIDE monitor. it dosent really know its 2 monitors
[23:17] <Stephini> she's using mate i think atm and it knows to put her action bar on just one monitor.
[23:17] <dr_willis> Stephini:   you can pin specific apps always on top/sticky to have them stay on the 2nd monitor if you wanted to
[23:17] <dr_willis> Stephini:  no idea on Mate. its not a ubuntu supported thing.
[23:17] <bobweaver> computer,  what does apt-cache policy gdm    say ?  Please use Pastbin the bot will tell you more
[23:17] <bobweaver> !pastebin| computer
[23:17] <dr_willis> Unity can have its panel on one or both monitors
[23:18] <Stephini> so the knowing what monitor to put the action bar on is a mate capacity is what i meant to ask by that...heh
[23:21] <DevNull_> I need help getting my bluetooth keyboard working for grub/typing in password for encrypted luks setup
[23:21] <pianojake> hi i'm having trouble connecting to the internet via ethernet on ubuntu. i'm a new user so how would i go about doing this?
[23:21] <computer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1525112/             Me not need to "Download as text" No? Just this URL? Yes?
[23:22] <bobweaver> yeah great job computer  you have no clue how many people mess that up l;ol
[23:22] <escott> DevNull_, does your bios support the bluetooth keyboard
[23:23] <escott> DevNull_, unless your keyboard is working in your bios this is a bios issue and not an ubuntu one
[23:23] <DevNull_> Im actually on a macmini :( so I dont think it has a bios
[23:23] <escott> DevNull_, efi then
[23:23] <pianojake> hi i'm having trouble connecting to the internet via ethernet on ubuntu. i'm a new user so how would i go about doing this?
[23:24] <bobweaver> computer,  what about    apt-cache policy gnome-shell      pastebin that please
[23:24] <DevNull_> I was thinking after some research that my initramfs had to be modified by adding some modules and configurations to support bluetooth
[23:25] <escott> DevNull_, is your kernel outside your LUKS?
[23:25] <DevNull_> ya theres a seperate /boot partition
[23:25] <computer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1525124/
[23:26] <bobweaver> computer,  this is what you have tried ?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/74300/how-to-login-into-unity-2d
[23:26] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 gnome classic ... my compiz cube works fine but 3d windows breaks the cube ... any help would be appreciated ... i know the cube is lame, but i like it :
[23:27] <escott> DevNull_, so who is asking for the password? the kernel or grub?
[23:27] <bobweaver> Tex_Nick,  Unity 3d is a compiz plugin kinda so if you mes with ccsm then you are also messing with unity 3d
[23:27] <computer> Yes tried that.....And some more.
[23:28] <bonez2046> I have a link to podcast I want to play, an .xml file. How can i play this podcast in ubuntu?
[23:28] <bobweaver> computer,  and when you type in    unity-2d-shell    into terminal does it launch ?
[23:28] <DevNull_> o I think the kernel for the luks password ... that is the most important I could live without the keyboard working in grub but I have to use another password to type in my encryption password
[23:29] <escott> DevNull_, I would check that the bluetooth modules are in /etc/modules and then update-initramfs
[23:29] <molgrum> i boot up a freshly installed ubuntu and grub says "error: file not found", i can write commands on "grub rescue" what should i do?
[23:30] <DevNull_> what about pairing ... will it take my desktop configuration or does it not need it?
[23:30] <computer> Lot of "WARNING" "DEBUG" and "CRITICAL" come up?
[23:30] <Tex_Nick> bobweaver : are you saying that my problem is using the gnome classic DE instead of unity is my problem ? :)
[23:30] <Stephini> would virtual core XTEST keyboard be the built in keyboard on the laptop? the word virtual is why i ask...doesn't seem very virtual...i figure virtual would be like OSK
[23:30] <bobweaver> ok computer  can you paste bin that ?
[23:30] <escott> DevNull_, I would assume that information eneds to be put in the initramfs
[23:31] <kross> hi
[23:31] <DevNull_> ya im having trouble figuring out how to do that bluetooth documentation is pretty weak
[23:31] <bobweaver> Tex_Nick,  kinda because Unity 3d it self depends on a certian setup of Compiz for it to work optimally. there are hacks out there that you can google but that said Unity 3d might crash on you here and there
[23:31] <kross> i want to remove those lilac boot picture or something and see whats going on during boot
[23:31] <computer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1525141/
[23:32] <kross> like if you boot up in recovery mode
[23:32] <kross> i don't like those pictures at boot i need to know whats going on
[23:33] <escott> DevNull_, some arch instructions in the first comment
[23:33] <Tex_Nick> bobweaver : kinda what i expected ... hey thanks for the info :)
[23:33] <bobweaver> computer,  that is different are you sure that qtlibdee is installed that is kinda crazy Unity 2d calls in that package on install try this            open terminal   then presss ctrl+shift+t  (to open a new tab)  then type in    metacity --replace  &        then in a new tab type in    unity-2d-shell        does it launch ?
[23:33] <disharmonic> gn
[23:34] <escott> DevNull_, I dont think ubuntu uses mkinitcpio but it should give you a sense of what modules and files you need
[23:34] <bobweaver> Tex_Nick,  what version of Ubuntu are you on ?
[23:34] <Tex_Nick> quantal with gnome classic de
[23:34] <DevNull_> first comment? ya i found this https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mkinitcpio-bluetooth-input/ im trying to go through the code to see whats happening
[23:35] <angs> how to remove a directory on the command line?
[23:35] <bobweaver> cool Tex_Nick  I was going to offer something if you where on 12.04 :(  anyhow have a good one and again there are hacks out there for what you are looking for but they are not the most stable things
[23:35] <bobweaver> angs,  rm -r  folder/
[23:36] <DevNull_> and onscreen keyboard at the luks password screen would be good too if my mouse would work but I dont know if thats easier or eveen possible
[23:36] <angs> thank you bobweaver
[23:36] <Tex_Nick> bobweaver : lol i understand ... thanks again :)
[23:36] <bobweaver> angs,  it might be a good idea to read up on that command
[23:36] <computer> Window manager warning: Failed to load theme "Adwaita": Failed to find a valid file for theme Adwaita
[23:36] <escott> DevNull_, neither easier nor possible
[23:36] <bobweaver> computer,  I see want to try something that is 3rd party ? My Unity 2d ?
[23:36] <bonez2046> podcast playing? is .xml a podcast file type, could it be?
[23:37] <computer> OK
[23:37] <Tropetre> dr_willis: I could not seem to find the additional drivers utility for some reason... How do I launch it from a terminal window?
[23:37] <pianomantim> hey would anyone know how to connect to an ethernet internet connection?
[23:37] <kross> hello i asked something about the grub2
[23:37] <DevNull_> ya I think my best bet is to try to adapt the arch code but it doesnt seem to straight forward .... or just install arch...
[23:37] <escott> DevNull_, they make a good point in the comments about sniffing bluetooth.
[23:37] <kross> i entered noplymouth and i still see no text
[23:38] <kross> what kind of idiot removed the noplymouth entry in grub2 config of pangolin, it worked before now it doesnt
[23:38] <bobweaver> computer,  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:u2t/bleedingedge       then    sudo apt-get update     then    sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[23:38] <eduardo> hi
[23:38] <eduardo> I have a question
[23:39] <computer> Just before we start....Just like to say that a gnome style desktop has come up??
[23:39] <DevNull_> ya ive read about that too... not too worried about it but what are my other options ... get another keyboard?
[23:39] <eduardo> Why when I shutdown my computer, it says it will shutdown 1 minute after?
[23:39] <escott> DevNull_, if you are concerned about security enough to use luks then you should spend the $12 and buy yourself a keyboard with a cord
[23:40] <shell_> What different ways can I access my laptop files over wifi? I see a "network" folder under: Places>network>laptop
[23:40] <bobweaver> computer,  I dont understand what you are saying ?
[23:41] <shell_> bobweaver are you referring to me?
[23:41] <DevNull_> ya I have another one but I plan to use this pc as an htpc and a wired keyboard isnt a great option for that
[23:41] <bobweaver> shell_,  no I dont think so
[23:41] <computer> strange now it has gone????? Like buttons down one side???? gone now??
[23:41] <shell_> Ok nvd
[23:41] <eduardo> I refer to my ubuntu
[23:41] <eduardo> I have a problem when shutdown
[23:41] <eduardo> it says it will shutdown 1 minute after
[23:41] <eduardo> why?
[23:42] <escott> DevNull_, why are you encrypting it?
[23:42] <shell_> Do you know how to access other computers on your wifi network
[23:42] <DevNull_> peace of mind...
[23:42] <Super_Dog> Just updated from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS via upgrade.  Went pretty smooth.  Real happy that my AjaxPlorer setup still works...
[23:42] <bobweaver> computer,  yeah I am not sure what you are saying. let me know what you want to do
[23:42] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  its in a tab of the software-sources tool in 12.10
[23:43] <Super_Dog> Gotta give Ubuntu good marks on the upgrade from LTS to LTS.  Thanks...
[23:43] <shell_> Does anybody here know how to access other computers on your wifi network?
[23:43] <eduardo> Why when I shutdown my computer, it says it will shutdown 1 minute after?
[23:43] <dr_willis> shell_:  samba, ssh, ftp, nfs, other ways as well...
[23:43] <bobweaver> computer,  here is a video of the unity 2d project that I manage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFSgaX5E0
[23:43] <Super_Dog> shell_ - many, many ways.  Which way do you want to do it?
[23:43] <Tropetre> I can't get to the application... I have only openboxx with no set menus... I need terminal command.. :/
[23:44] <shell_> I would like file system access
[23:44] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  right click on the desktop should have a terminal menu entry
[23:44] <computer> Desktop style changed for a bit then went?? Ok just did the install of unity-2d.
[23:44] <dr_willis> shell_:  what OS is in use on the other machine?
[23:44] <droid> irc just crashed...
[23:44] <shell_> Windows 7
[23:44] <Super_Dog> shell_ File system access?  You talking about NTFS, etc.?
[23:44] <dr_willis> shell_:  so you can use samba and set up shares. or use winscp+ssh
[23:45] <Tropetre> I got a terminal but I don't know which command opens the software-thingy...
[23:45] <Guest42228> irc just crashed...
[23:45] <sevenforall> Greetings. Could anyone give me a hand with PGP? Thanks in advance!
[23:45] <DevNull2> irc just crashed...
[23:45] <Tropetre> dr_willis: I got a terminal but I don't know which command opens the software-thingy...
[23:45] <computer> Log out and in....or reboot?
[23:45] <Super_Dog> shell_ - hate to be too much of a geek here.  But perhaps you just want Samba connectivity...
[23:46] <dniMretsaM> Tropetre: use apt-get in the terminal to install or remove packages
[23:46] <bobweaver> computer,  apt-cache policy unity-2d
[23:46] <shell_> Does it require technical skill?
[23:46] <escott> sevenforall, what is your question
[23:46] <bobweaver> pastebin that plz computer
[23:46] <sevenforall> escott: I'd like to encrypt a piece of text and send the encrypted bit to someone
[23:46] <sevenforall> escott: But php only generates a keyfile itself can only decrypt
[23:46] <Tropetre> dniMretsaM: Isn't the software-sources utility a preinstalled program?
[23:46] <sevenforall> *pgp
[23:47] <escott> sevenforall, gpg can do all kinds of encryption. do you want to do symmetric or asymmetric encryption
[23:47] <computer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1525166/
[23:47] <DevNull2> sry escott irc crashed ... u think im SOL?
[23:47] <shell_> I just need it for system maintenance and file transfers/modifications.
[23:47] <bobweaver> ty computer
[23:47] <escott> DevNull2, im sure it can be made to work. i just dont see the point in doing it
[23:47] <Sach> Using ubuntu 12.04, is it possible to record a video using my webcam? Perhaps on skype?
[23:47] <dniMretsaM> Tropetre: oh, the software sources. do you only have a terminal or are you just trying to launch it through the terminal?
[23:47] <bobweaver> computer,  yeah reboot
[23:48] <DevNull2> k
[23:48] <Super_Dog> Samba can be tricky... But sometimes it works pretty clean OOB, too.
[23:48] <sevenforall> escott: Not quite sure tbh... I want to use someone else's public key to encrypt a piece of text, and send back my piece of text encrypted with his public key
[23:48] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  try software<TAB>
[23:48] <escott> DevNull2, the main thing it protects you from is someone breaking into the house and taking the mini
[23:48] <shell_> Super_Dog I just need it for system maintenance and file transfers/modifications. Do you know where I read up on this stuff?
[23:48] <cXhristian> I have a problem with sound volume, it's just way too loud. 5% of the volume is what I would consider to be a normal sound level, while anything over 20% is just too loud. I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and headset is Corsair Vengance 1500.
[23:48] <dr_willis> or soft<tab> i  dont know the name. and i just powered down the ubuntu box
[23:49] <Tropetre> dniMretsaM: I got GUI and terminal window but no menus and I'm trying to get to restricted drivers but I don't know how I am supposted to get there.
[23:49] <escott> DevNull2, i guess that has some value, but I would use an encrypted home for that not LUKS
[23:49] <Tropetre> dr_willis: Okay! I'll try!
[23:49] <escott> sevenforall, thats asymmetric encryption
[23:49] <dr_willis> Tropetre:  or you can get to it via synaptic i recall. or the software-center menus
[23:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[23:49] <escott> sevenforall, do you have that individuals id_rsa.pub?
[23:49] <rocky> hello
[23:50] <dniMretsaM> hi rocky
[23:50] <DevNull2> ya I guess I set it up cause I wanted to play around with Luks/LVM I might have to revert to encrypted home
[23:50] <sevenforall> escott: Eh, I guess not
[23:50] <rocky> can u guys let me know gotomeeting alike software in ubuntu?
[23:50] <escott> sevenforall, you need to get that first. you need their identity in your gpg keyring
[23:50] <sevenforall> escott: I recognize the id_rsa.pub from using SSH
[23:50] <sevenforall> escott: All I have is their public key, and I got that one
[23:50] <escott> sevenforall, it won't actually be "id_rsa.pub"
[23:51] <escott> sevenforall, ok so you do have it
[23:51] <Super_Dog> shell_  :http://www.samba.org/
[23:51] <sevenforall> escott: And that -should- be all I need
[23:51] <sevenforall> I do
[23:51] <rocky> can u guys let me know gotomeeting alike software in ubuntu?
[23:51] <sevenforall> I was just confused by the id_rsa part, hehe
[23:51] <shell_> Thank super_dog
[23:51] <escott> sevenforall, does that individual appear when you gpg --list-keys
[23:51] <computer> Ok. Rebooted. Still no Unity 2D drop down on log in menu?
[23:52] <sevenforall> escott: It does indeed
[23:52] <sevenforall> escott: I can also use it to encrypt a file
[23:52] <Super_Dog> shell_ - There is also a samba setup utility - try typing "samba" in Unity file search and see if you have it installed already.  If not, pop it in with Software Center or Synaptic...
[23:52] <sevenforall> All in all, it works
[23:52] <Tropetre> dr_willis: gksudo software-properties-gtk seemed to do the trick! Thanks!
[23:52] <bobweaver> computer,  try to launch it     unity-2d-shell
[23:52] <escott> sevenforall, then all you have to do is "gpg -e thefiletoencrypt.txt" and then enter the identifier for that key (usually an email address or the like)
[23:53] <Super_Dog> shell_ - mine is called "Samba Server Configuration Tool".   Looks kind of old / crusty though...
[23:53] <bobweaver> also computer  lets see a pastbin of    apt-cache policy unity-greeter
[23:53] <rocky> can u guys let me know gotomeeting alike software in ubuntu?
[23:53] <bobweaver> rocky,  I am not sure what you are saying
[23:53] <Sach> Using ubuntu 12.04, is it possible to record a video using my webcam? Perhaps on skype?
[23:54] <rocky> bobweaver, it is a screen sharing software with other users
[23:54] <andybrine> there are not many software applications similar to gotomeeting
[23:54] <rocky> bobweaver, what is am i asking foe
[23:54] <amoxibos> if my core gets dumped for some reason
[23:54] <amoxibos> where do i look for the dump
[23:54] <amoxibos> ?
[23:54] <andybrine> i use this product called talk fusion that works perfectly
[23:54] <bobweaver> rocky,  alot of us use google hangout
[23:54] <amoxibos> ulimit is set to unlimited
[23:54] <computer> sorry what was the url for the pastebin again?
[23:55] <andybrine> does anyone know a simple way to setup openvpn
[23:55] <andybrine> ?
[23:55] <sevenforall> escott: I was already able to do that, but I need a piece of text similar to the public key, but containing the message. How can I get that? I can't send him the gpg file I'm afraid.
[23:55] <bobweaver> computer,  paste.ubuntu.com
[23:55] <andybrine> so i can watch us programs in the uk?
[23:55] <sevenforall> escott: The gpg file is a pile of garbage when I open it with a text editor
[23:55] <rocky> bobweaver, i see is it very good in speed, i mean no lag
[23:55] <bobweaver> rocky,  like this ?  http://ubuntuonair.com/
[23:55] <escott> sevenforall, yes its encrypted
[23:56] <sevenforall> escott: I figured, but the public key is encrypted in a way that there are reasonable characters, and a header that states the version and the fact that the block of encryted data starts there
[23:56] <andybrine> been searching for ages trying to get open vpn woking
[23:56] <sevenforall> escott: The piece of encrypted text needs to look similar to that
[23:56] <escott> sevenforall, you want it ascii armored
[23:57] <escott> sevenforall, try gpg -ea
[23:57] <sevenforall> escott: That sounds reasonable, let me try
[23:57] <sevenforall> escott: All in all, look like http://pastie.org/5675666
[23:57] <sevenforall> But a piece of text, rather then a public key. I'll try -ea
[23:57] <escott> sevenforall, the -a makes the output ascii armored
[23:57] <sevenforall> Let me check
[23:58] <andybrine> anyone have a simple tutorial to setup openvpn?
[23:58] <sevenforall> escott: Much better, thanks a lot :) And thanks for explaining it a bit rather than just giving the answer
[23:59] <computer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1525192/      Command still seems to be running in terminal but here is output. Desktop has changed to what might be Unity 2D?
[23:59] <bobweaver> !vpn | andybrine  You have read this ?
[23:59] <bobweaver> computer,  what about a pastebin of     apt-cache policy unity-greeter