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c2tarunHi friends, I have a problem, if some applications crashes is there any setting in Xubuntu to automatically relaunch that app? Like yesterday I was downloading setup of Xubuntu 12.10 I left my machine on at night so that downloading finishes. But Deluge crashed and when I checked in morning :( only 20% was downloaded.03:51
ballIs Deluge a bittorrent client?03:51
c2tarunball, yes03:52
ballc2tarun: rtorrent seems to work well for me.03:52
* c2tarun trying rtorrent03:53
c2tarunball, its a command prompt client :P03:54
c2tarunball, does it work for Magnetic URLs?03:54
ballNever heard of those.03:55
c2tarunNever?? O_O03:55
ballc2tarun: Never.03:56
xubuntu611hi03:58
c2tarunball, ever tried downloading anything from piratebay.org some time back I heard they completely move to Magnetic URLs instead of .torrent files03:58
ballhello xubuntu61103:58
ballc2tarun: Don't think I've ever been to piratebay.org03:58
ballI use bittorrent to fetch OS ISO images.03:58
c2tarunmay be torrents are blocked or not so popular in USA.04:00
xubuntu611use proxy04:00
ballc2tarun: they work fine for me.04:00
ball...and I live in the U.S.04:02
c2tarunball, sorry to ask, is there any difference b/w US and USA?04:02
ballc2tarun: They are the same.04:03
c2tarunthats what I thought04:03
ballPeople sometimes say "United States of America" and other times shorten that to "United States".04:03
ballc2tarun: Goodnight.04:15
rickybobby_I just bought a new acer aspire v5.  It has a touch screen and I am wondering if there would be any complications in using xubuntu.04:15
bazhangtry a live usb/ live cd04:16
c2tarunrickybobby_, and please do post if it works :) I also want to know.04:17
Offerlamhave anyone tried xubuntu on the HP gen 8 servers?04:52
PezikryptGood evening.05:25
PezikryptI can't get my wireless connection to work with my Xubuntu Session, any suggestions? I have selected Bridge-mode in the VM settings.05:26
pleia2since it's a VM it will use the host's network and it will treat it as wired05:27
pleia2and you'll have to have bridging enabled on your host machine (not sure how that's done in windows)05:28
PezikryptOkay, I'll look it up.05:28
MoL0ToVhi to all06:25
MoL0ToVi have a problem, if i click on firefox user e password fields on gmail, the keyboard don't write (after latest updates) howto fix?06:29
baizonMoL0ToV: have you tried a different browser?06:31
MoL0ToVyes06:33
MoL0ToVthe xfce one works06:33
c2tarunMoL0ToV, there was a problem with firefox that until the site is loaded is completely you cannot type. Try with chrome or chromium once.07:09
baizonMoL0ToV: or you can try to "reset" firefox07:13
baizoni mean the settings07:13
MoL0ToVok thx07:25
MoL0ToVi tryed to delete completely the .mozilla folder07:26
MoL0ToVbut do't work07:26
MoL0ToVstrange..07:27
MoL0ToVwhat are the defaul xubuntu login manager? gdm? lightdm?07:27
Unit193MoL0ToV: In current versions, lightdm.07:35
MoL0ToVhowto change the default login manager?07:44
Unit193Install another one.07:48
MoL0ToVok07:50
MoL0ToVbut if i have 207:50
MoL0ToVhowto select what to use?07:50
baizonMoL0ToV: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html07:53
MoL0ToVanother question: howto grab a screenshot in xubuntu?07:58
MoL0ToVprint key don't work..07:58
WalterNjust go to the menu -> Accessories -> Screenshot08:01
MoL0ToVthx08:07
WalterNthere is probably some keyboard shortcut to bring it up too, donno what it might be08:10
WalterNor you could make your own08:10
xubuntu847I did a fresh xubuntu 12.04 install.  Need to put virtualbox so I can use MS Office (not my choice, libre doesn't help).  But I can't install virtualbox: unresolved dependencies.  Couldn't find answer from google? Any help08:36
xubuntu847no one?08:41
baizonxubuntu847: how do you install it?08:41
xubuntu847from ubuntu software center and also by sudo ... install virtualbox-ose08:42
baizonwhich dependencie is it?08:43
xubuntu847The following packages have unmet dependencies:  virtualbox-qt: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed                Depends: libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.3 is to be installed                Depends: libqt4-opengl (>= 4:4.7.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.3 is to be installed                Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.3 is to be installed                Depen08:44
baizonxubuntu847: try https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads08:45
xubuntu847trying now, thank you08:46
baizonnp08:48
xubuntu079will MS Office 2010 Pro edition 64-bit work via wine in xubuntu 12.04?09:17
xubuntu079for the installer, it says garbage: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=3109:18
baizonwell seems not to work yet09:20
baizononly 32bit09:20
PezikryptIs anyone here familiar with getting a wireless internet connection to be shared from the HOST to a VM (Running XUbuntu 12.10)?09:35
Name141what XFCE version is in Xubuntu 12.10 ?09:41
PezikryptWell, if you tell me how to find that out, I can tell you?09:41
Pezikrypt(I'm completely new to Linux, period.)09:41
xubuntu079I'm trying to install Win7-64 bit in virtualbox, but I got this:09:42
xubuntu079VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.  Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.09:42
TheSheep!info xfce409:42
ubottuxfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.0 (quantal), package size 4 kB, installed size 31 kB09:42
Name141xubuntu079: did you enable it in BIOS09:42
xubuntu079name141: go to mouse menu and click about xfce.  mine is 12.04 and xfce 4.809:42
TheSheepxubuntu079: ^^09:43
xubuntu079I will start bios and look for this option, anything specific i need to know?09:43
xubuntu079ok, i be back after restart09:45
Name141Also, am I really losing anything by running the open source AMD/ATi drivers for the 4670 in 12.10 than I would the real ones in 12.04 ?09:49
Name141I assume a little performance ?09:49
WalterNthe open source drivers are kind of amazing for AMD video cards these days, compared to video drivers of ages past09:52
Name141WalterN: So I shouldn't let that be the deciding factor in LTS vs Current?09:53
WalterNI would stick with the open source drivers myself...09:54
xubuntu079there was no option in bios for VT-x/AMD-V10:10
xubuntu079so I guess I can't install Win7-64 on virtualbox??10:10
xubuntu079Would there be a problem with 32-bit Win7?10:11
TheSheepxubuntu079: maybe ask at ##windows10:14
xubuntu079well, this is just too much. I'm going to put Win7 on this netbook directly.  Too bad, because I got it from System76. But Ubuntu was too slow.  And now I'm wasting hours trying to do virtual Win on xubuntu.10:14
TheSheepxubuntu079: good luck10:14
xubuntu079so sad, thanks for the help though.10:14
TheSheepxubuntu079: don't hesitate to drop by again if you change your mind again10:15
BillHookHi all, excuse me, where is software sources in xubuntu? I have to add line in there...10:43
bazhang /etc/apt/sources.list10:45
BillHookthnx10:47
BillHooknow i can play dungeon crawl :)10:47
freedomrun_what is the best way to disable xscreensaver and have a simple monitor turnoff (not blank) with lightdm locking?12:46
fegohello, anyother way to make the xubuntu installation more eyecandy with 3d effects, without compiz13:32
fego?13:33
b00010111I can not image why someone would need eye candy at the installation process.13:50
fegob00010111: sorry, i think i was not been able to clarify. I just wanted to have some visual effects without using compiz.14:28
fegolike the 3d window effects and others14:29
ochosifego: the only alternative would be to use mutter, xfce's compositor doesn't do effects apart from transparency and shadows14:40
ochosior another 3d window-manager, there should be a few others (although not too mnay)14:41
fegothanks ochosi for the reply, i am googling mutter for more info.14:42
ochosiwell it's gnome3's window manager14:42
ochosii'm not sure how much of gnome3 it would actually pull if you installed it, but probably a lot14:42
bernzanyone know where to find a list of the minimal system fonts in standard xubuntu quantal? (yes, i have asked google already)15:19
bernz(that is, i don't want any extra/free fonts, only the ones needed by the default window manager, terminal, and whatever else)15:20
ochosibernz: we're using droid for most things15:21
bernzochosi, ah, that's helpful, thanks :-)15:22
ochosibernz: although for raring we might go for a different terminal font (liberation mono)15:22
bernzif i'm messing around a lot with fonts and damage something, is there a tool for resetting the default fonts? or is it something fairly simple like replacing a directory sub-tree, and rebuilding a cache somewhere?15:24
ochosii'm not sure what you mean with "messing aroudnd"15:24
bernzfor instance, if i'm using a font manager application, but it's UI is cryptic, and i do something unintentional, like deleting all the fonts instead of a selected one15:25
bernzit's -> its, even15:25
bernzor if i manually edit files in /usr/share/fonts, and stuff like that15:25
ochosii'd never edit files in /usr/share/fonts, simply install new fonts in /home/$user/fonts15:26
ochosierr15:26
ochosi.fonts i mean15:26
bernzoh! i was getting a message about that being deprecated, safe to ignore for now?15:26
bernz(when i, for instance, run "fc-cache -f")15:27
ochosii never forcibly updated the font-cache (honestly it didn't seem needed), so i couldn't say. the dir definitely works though15:27
bernzokay... i found some web tutorial on installing a single new font without using a font manager, and it suggested to copy the font to a certain place, and then rebuild the cache15:28
bernzi will undo that and switch to using the home-dir15:28
ochosiyeah, it's safer15:28
bernzthanks for the advice :-)15:28
ochosiyou shouldn't have to update the font-cache by hand btw15:28
bernzokay15:29
ochosijust store a font in the .fonts dir and then re-open the app you want to use it in15:29
bernznice15:29
bernzi mostly wanted a font manager to browse a large collection, and pick out stuff i'm going to use more than once, and "import it" into my system15:29
bernzso instead, i'll just copy the ones i like into my home-dir15:30
ochosiyup15:30
bernzcoolness, thanks again15:31
ochosinp15:31
bernzi'm off to try some stuff then :-)15:31
bernzbye for now15:31
MoL0ToVxfce how manages the ptp camera devices?15:42
MoL0ToVon gnome a popup permit to transfer files15:42
MoL0ToVhere nothing appears15:42
GothSparkhi all how can mount a file system using the live cd because i get the uuid error everytime i try to mount my harddrive15:43
ochosiMoL0ToV: nothing happens by default, but you should be able to access your camera with gthumb (which is installed by default)15:44
MoL0ToVdon't work15:45
MoL0ToVi cannot see the device15:46
ochosithen you might be able to check whether there are drivers you can install, but in general i 'm probably the wrong person to help because i don't have sucha ceamera15:48
MoL0ToVin gnome all works15:49
ochosiMoL0ToV: so what programme are you using in gnome?15:52
MoL0ToVi don't know15:53
MoL0ToVi see the icon of the phone on the desktop15:53
ochosiso probably it's the filebrowser?15:55
MoL0ToVi don't know15:58
MoL0ToVis not a problem, i copied the file trough gnome15:58
recon_lapMoL0ToV: you trying to use a camera? try cheese.16:00
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MoL0ToVno16:07
MoL0ToVa ptp device16:08
holsteinMoL0ToV: there might be a gnome service starting that you could start with XFCE as well16:24
holsteinMoL0ToV: i would make sure its not just something about the default software.. try cheese as recon_lap suggests and let the volunteers here know what the outcome is16:25
MoL0ToVcheese is for webcam16:29
MoL0ToVi need simply copy a file via ptp16:29
holsteinMoL0ToV: then, you dont need a camera.. you just copy the file16:30
MoL0ToVyes16:30
MoL0ToVbut ptp protocol in gnome works16:30
MoL0ToVa icon with my device name appears on desktop16:30
MoL0ToVin xfce no16:30
MoL0ToVthis is the problem16:30
holsteinMoL0ToV: it might be helpful to remember gnome is just the environment.. that its all linux/ubuntu16:30
MoL0ToVand also gThumb don't see the device16:30
holsteinMoL0ToV: is the same installation running gnome and xfce?16:31
MoL0ToVyes16:31
recon_lapMoL0ToV: what device are you trying to connect, and how are you connecting16:33
holsteinMoL0ToV: i also use apps on my phone to share over wifi, so i dont need to plug it in16:33
MoL0ToVis a android 4.03 phone using ptp protocol16:33
MoL0ToValso mtp is supported by phone, but not by linux16:33
recon_lapMTP-tools might be worth a look16:33
holsteinMoL0ToV: i use airdroid16:33
MoL0ToVyes is a workaround16:34
MoL0ToVusb mass storage is so pretty.. why google eliminated it from android? is stupid.16:34
recon_laphi, can't get a DVD to play, cant seem to get the decryption installed , running 12.04. any suggestions?17:38
toraxrecon_lap: libdvdread4 installed?17:41
recon_lapyep, libdvdread4:  Installed: 4.2.0-1ubuntu317:42
toraxis it a new disney dvd?17:42
recon_laphouse session 6 DVD17:43
toraxI had problems with disney dvd, could not get it work at all17:44
recon_lapthink i need libdvdcss or somthing17:45
toraxyou could try installing libdvdcss217:45
recon_lapinstalled17:47
MchHello, All. Have a stupid question. Can't find detailed info about difference between desktop and alternate install. Maybe someone knows some link?18:19
likemindeadBasically alt requires less resources, no Live CD option. Mch18:20
likemindeadSome info here, Mch -- http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/01/live-cd-vs-alternate-installer/18:21
PezikryptDo I pick Xfce or Xubuntu for the session?18:23
MchThanks, likemindead. I'm trying to install xubuntu 12.10 on 367Mhz Celeron 256V of RAM. It seems that it is too large for the machine, it needs 512 min as said in minimal reqs..  I warry that alternate install has some features stripped, and trying to find their (stripped features) list. If there is less resources needed, what is cost of it?18:24
recon_lap367Mhz Celeron?? that must be old18:28
MchThanks again. The shown topic got me out to use alternate one of older release instead of combined last one. They say it's far more stable. And they also noticed my exactly trouble - repeated partitioning fails.18:32
likemindeadThat is definitely an old machine. :-\18:32
MchYes! It's quite old. But it's my first machine and I simply can not let it die in vain. )18:33
likemindeadTry making it a pfSense box? It meets the minimum requirements. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pfsense18:35
MchThanks. I'll try alternate one first. I need gcc and some other dev tools, but  pfSense is BSD based and maybe lack of these tools. Need full featured machine with reach toolset but dwarfish resources..18:38
likemindeadTiny Core Linux, then?18:39
MchNever heard about it. Thanks.18:40
likemindeadI love Xubuntu. I always come back to Xubuntu. But for a box as old as the one you're talking about, I think you need to go with another distro tailored to those needs.18:41
MchI used puppy for long time. But now I need some additional tools, and I got a HDD at last. So trying to migrate.18:43
MchSomebody sais that xubuntu works even on 64M of RAM. I have much more :-) , so let's give it a try18:44
likemindeadIt may work. Just likely to be painfully slow.18:45
likemindeadhttp://www.slitaz.org/en/ is another nice option.18:46
Mchif it will live too slow, then one of next ones will be slitaz. And some other distros. Maybe slackware. Know it a little on a machine like that. It also uses XFSE, and is'nt too resource dependent18:50
Mchbye, going to burn new image and feed my mega-machine. ) Hope it will work. Happy New Year (old style one soon) to all!18:51
recon_lapseems i had to setregion on my dvd player !!!19:14
PezikryptDo I pick XFCE SESSION or XUBUNTU SESSION?19:19
Unit193Pezikrypt: Xubuntu Session.19:30
PezikryptThanks Unit.19:33
harrishelp!!!!!!!!!!!!! my pc is making pop noise19:42
PezikryptCan you be more specific?19:45
Unit193Pezikrypt: If you try Xfce session, you'll have to remove .config/xfce4 or .config to get Xubuntu Session looking normal.19:46
PezikryptI'm just using the Xubuntu Session. :)19:47
Pezikryptping vm-xu-1210@ubuntu:~$ ping www.google.com19:49
Pezikryptping: unknown host www.google.com19:49
PezikryptWhat's the problem? Why didn't I successfully ping Google?19:49
WalterNleave off the www.19:50
PezikryptOkay.19:52
Pezikryptvm-xu-1210@ubuntu:~$ ping google.com19:53
Pezikryptping: unknown host google.com19:53
PezikryptNo difference.19:53
PezikryptIt's also taking a very long time to Update the Cache. :/19:53
molgrumi burned a xubuntu 12.10 32-bit disc and put it into an older laptop (Acer Aspire 1300), the graphics are completely borked19:55
WalterNPezikrypt: donno? :-x19:55
molgrumvertical borked columns19:55
molgrumi can see the welcome screen behind19:55
molgrumthe os on it (winxp) works19:56
WalterNwhat does the xorg.0 logs say? almost all video driver issues will show up in there somewhere19:57
WalterN/var/log/Xorg.0.log19:58
molgrum(EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory19:59
molgrumsame for /dev/fb020:00
molgrum(EE) SAVAGE: Failed to load module "xaa" (module does not exist, 0)20:02
molgrum(EE) SAVAGE(0): DRI isn't enabled20:02
molgrumthat's it20:02
Hazeydoes xubuntu have all the packages regular ubuntu has, like that software manager ubuntu has that has a nice simple GUI and you can browse for free software20:09
HazeyUbuntu Software Centre20:11
molgrumHazey, yes20:12
Hazeythank god20:12
Hazeyi wish regular ubuntu didnt mess up gnome so badly with that sidebar20:12
holsteinHazey: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. all the official variants use the same repos20:16
Yinchiehe said regular. obviously xubuntu uses a different wm.20:17
holsteinwell, xubuntu does *not* have "all the packages regular ubuntu has".. but it has access to them20:18
molgrumhey hey, 12.04 seems to work better20:23
holsteinmolgrum: could have better support for your hardware with the older kernel20:26
=== Thanos is now known as LiquidBlues
LiquidBluesI have a USB microphone that I'm trying to use for Karaoke, but it won't loopback through the speakers.21:39
LiquidBluesOutput sound is HDMI21:39
holsteinLiquidBlues: thats actually kind of involved.. you can do that easily with JACK, though thats overkill for what you are doing21:39
holsteini would look at the pavucontrol settings.. i would consider not using the computer for that..21:40
LiquidBluesWell, I use it as a media server in the living room.21:40
LiquidBluesvia xbmc21:40
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/123798/how-to-hear-my-voice-in-speakers-with-a-mic21:41
holsteinLiquidBlues: sure.. im just saying, maybe just an amp and some speakers seperate21:41
holsteinLiquidBlues: i would say, you'll beat your head against this for a while, and get something kind of "meh" at the end anyways21:41
LiquidBluesThe LiquidBlues, he is sad.21:42
holsteinLiquidBlues: i say that as an audio professional... you can get this working and get the mic going through the speakers.. ill suggest a few ways21:42
holsteinthe above way is how using jack would work21:42
LiquidBluesOh, I did try this way when I googled the problem.21:43
LiquidBlues(qjackctl.real:5272): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_get_direction: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed21:43
holsteinLiquidBlues: JACK is not trivial.. i literally use it daily though, and it easily does what you are trying to do21:43
holsteinLiquidBlues: do you need jack to do this? no..  so lemme keep searching..21:44
holsteinhttp://s8dragon.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/listen-to-microphone-over-the-speakers-using-pulseaudio/21:44
LiquidBluesThank you so much21:44
holsteinotherwise, try and do it at the amp... with a mixer.. route the computer output and the mic output that way21:45
LiquidBluesThat did work21:45
holsteinOR, just turn the music down a bit and sing over it21:46
LiquidBluesBut yeah, latency21:46
holsteinLiquidBlues: sure.. you should expect crap latency with that hardware21:46
holsteinLiquidBlues: thats why i say, you're better off doing it outside the box21:46
holsteinits not that you have bad hardware.. its that you have inapproriate hardware21:46
LiquidBluesUnderstood.21:47
LiquidBluesSo, Jack solves the latency problem?21:47
holsteinLiquidBlues: you can ask in #opensourcemusicians as well.. maybe there are some tricks i dont know about21:47
LiquidBluesOh, wow.21:47
LiquidBluesTIL21:47
holsteinLiquidBlues: jack might help.. but pretty much, i wouldnt expect low latency from internal sound cards..21:47
holsteinJACK is overkill, and unecessary i say21:48
LiquidBluesJust because it's already processing the hdmi video?21:48
holsteinLiquidBlues: for one thing, with JACK, you will choose what device you want to use.. what *singular* device you want to use.. not the USB mic in and hdmi out or whatever21:48
holsteinunless, you want to hack at alsa for a bit, and get that routed to JACK, *then* you get an additional hit in performance21:49
holsteinthen there are kernels you can try.. then IRQ settings.. its a mess21:49
LiquidBluesSounds like the opposite of fun.21:49
LiquidBluesI wish stuff would just, you know, work...21:49
holsteinLiquidBlues: i would use pulse with what you got, and the next step for improvement is to get it out of the box21:49
holsteinLiquidBlues: it is.. your computer is *not* a karaoke machine21:50
holsteinLiquidBlues: keep in mind, you dont need a computer to do what you are doing21:50
LiquidBluesYeah, but karaoke seems so simple...21:50
holsteinyou get a mixer... you plug in a CD player, plug in a mic and *booM*21:50
holsteinOR, just dont plug in a mic and turn the music down and sing along with it without a mic21:50
LiquidBluesI hear you.21:50
holsteinLiquidBlues: otherwise, you need gear that is designed for low latency.. or a sound card that routes the audio straight though.. i have that on several devices21:51
LiquidBluesSo, even if I used a microphone with a 2.5mm jack, I would get the same problem?21:51
LiquidBluesvs usb21:52
holsteinLiquidBlues: think of it this way.. .have you been to a karaoke jam?21:52
LiquidBluesI've never had that much to drink, no.21:52
holsteinLiquidBlues: did you see *any* 2.5" jacks in action?21:52
holsteinLiquidBlues: you wont21:52
LiquidBluesGotcha21:52
holsteinLiquidBlues: you might get better latency with another device, but you might not21:52
holsteinLiquidBlues: what will certainly give you dead on zero latency is not sending the mic through the computer21:53
holsteinyou dont need to21:53
holsteinits just a monitor.. a realtime signal to the speakers is all you want21:53
holsteinyou dont need to route that through the computer, so dont21:53
LiquidBluesI gotcha.  Was just hoping to do it without adding more gear.21:53
holsteinbut, you could mess around like i said before and come up with something tolerable21:53
holsteinid say, take an afternoon.. 4 hours or so, and just try all the possible outcomes21:54
holsteintheres really no way to say without trying them21:54
holsteinthose devices are not made for recieving audio, processing it, and spitting it back out21:55
LiquidBluesNah, I'll take the word of experience over me screwing around with it and messing something up.21:55
holsteinther are made for playing audio, and maybe a skype kind of setup21:55
holsteinLiquidBlues: well, you can always try with a live CD too.. the ubuntustudio and AVlinux cd's are live, and have JACK and all the goodies21:55
holsteinLiquidBlues: then, you wont "break" anything you have permanently21:55
LiquidBluesYeah, I do Google Voice on it alright.  I guess that's still a non-latency issue, though.21:56
holsteinLiquidBlues: ubuntustudio is running XFCE, so it wont look too much different and it would be easy to take whatever is working with ubuntustudio and apply it to xubuntu21:56
LiquidBluesWorth a try.21:56
holsteinLiquidBlues: well, even 20ms for a phone call.. or 40..21:56
holsteinyou can really tell 20ms though when you are trying to sing along or play an instrument21:57
LiquidBluesYeah21:57
holsteinLiquidBlues: i like to have 10.. or 221:57
holstein10 would be fine with what you are doing though21:57
LiquidBluesThanks for the help in nailing it down quickly.  I appreciate it.21:59
holsteinLiquidBlues: sure... its a challenge for sure.. and could be easier, but its tough with so many different devices around21:59
LiquidBluesWhat good is the usb mic, then?22:01
holsteinLiquidBlues: what is it? a podcaster mic?22:01
LiquidBluesIt's a full microphone looking thing.22:02
LiquidBluesJust usb cable22:02
holsteinstill, recording that signal into something like audacity would work just fine.. its expecting it to come back out of the box in realtime22:02
LiquidBluesOh, I see.22:03
holsteinLiquidBlues: its not really for "process your voice with realtime effects!"22:03
holsteinits more for "record your voice with a 'quality' mic"22:03
holsteinand that might be better than what you would get with a 2.5" cable.. better as far as cleaner22:03
LiquidBluesSo, I have all HDMI outputs in the back.  My 5.1 receiver has an aux/in, that's about it.22:07
LiquidBluesI doubt it'll play the xbmc stuff and do the mic.22:07
holsteinLiquidBlues: you could use a mixer22:07
holsteinLiquidBlues: sometimes you can see these cheap at charity shops22:07
LiquidBluesYOu have an example?22:08
holsteinhttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/behringer-eurorack-ub502-5-channel-compact-mixer has an actual mic inpute22:09
holsteininput*22:09
holsteinbut, you might find something more consumer grade that will tak a stereo line in and a mic input for cheap22:10
holsteini literally donate hardware like that all the time22:10
LiquidBluesI like this one and it's not expensive.22:10
LiquidBluesBut, how do I route all that with my HDMI stuff?22:10
holsteinLiquidBlues: i dont know anything about your hardware22:11
holsteinwhat would i do? i would use anything with a stereo output to play the track.. and plug a mic in and mix those 2 things22:11
LiquidBlueshmmm22:12
holsteinits expensive mixing digitial with analog22:12
holsteinand not necessary to do what you are trying to do22:13
holsteini would just get out of the box..22:13
LiquidBluesOr just buy singstar for my ps3.  :/22:14
holsteinsure... or anything made for karaoke22:14
holsteinOR, just turn the music down a bit, and dont use a mic22:14
holsteinjust sing.. without a mic22:14
LiquidBluesYeah, that's probably what's going to end up happening.22:14
LiquidBluesKids just like the sound of their voice.  :)22:14
holsteinLiquidBlues: sometimes you can find crap boom boxes with mic inputs.. then they can crank/break that and not ruin your nice system22:15
LiquidBluesEven better idea.22:16
holsteinyeah... then you got little in it, and they can just tear it up.. not worries22:16
holsteinLiquidBlues: even if its a broken karaoke rig that the CD player doesnt work in or whatever22:16
holsteinyou just want a mic in22:16
LiquidBluesOkay, lots of good info.  Thank you so much.22:19
holsteinLiquidBlues: cheers!22:20
golyhello!22:33

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