=== dave is now known as Guest53877 === Guest53877 is now known as Xilum === dniMretsaM is now known as dniMretsaM_away === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [00:44] Anyone know how I can find out which Additional Driver for my Nvidia card is which? I have two experimental and two current entries in the dialog but none of them state driver versions === kubuntu is now known as Guest50471 [01:16] Where do you disable the lock screen for the screensaver / blanking? [01:16] I've checked/unchecked everything that looks like it should turn it off. [01:16] Still locks. [01:18] I'm on the 4.10-RC === FabianB is now known as Guest18998 [01:36] UberDuper: look at settings > Display > screen savers [01:37] or look at your power settings [01:53] I LOVE KUBUNTU 12.04.1! === curt is now known as Guest83471 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM [03:01] robtygart: I've set it in both places. Doesn't prevent it from locking. [03:01] Maybe a bug. === rush is now known as user23344 [03:40] Hey everyone, is there an easy means to revertan Nvidia driver? I added the edgers PPA to try out the latest Nvidia drivers but they're pretty unstable. Unfortunately in my additional drivers dialog the new experimental driver has replaced my old current. [03:41] revert* [04:30] can anyone give me a clue as to how i would go about writing a scritp to launch a program that is in /usr/bin ? [04:31] Glitchd: using what, bash? [04:31] dniMretsaM, ummm....idk [04:32] dniMretsaM, its an "sh" script if that helps toward your question [04:32] dniMretsaM, its to launch a program called "x11vnc" [04:32] that would be using bash, most likely. you can simply put a call to that file in your script [04:32] dniMretsaM, this is what i have so far [04:33] #!/bin/bash [04:33] /usr/bin/x11vnc.sh [04:33] and that doesn't work? [04:33] nope [04:33] says its not there [04:33] drop the .sh unless if it really is /usr/bin/x11vnc.sh [04:33] -if [04:33] yeah, what he said [04:35] jazzkutya, in the bin folder, its just an icon with "x11vnc" no ending or anything. [04:35] jazzkutya, i thought i was an sh file [04:36] thats hilarious. it worked. [04:36] now i need to add that script to startup at boot [04:37] i have it on my server and i would be convenient if it would just start then i dont have to log in with ssh and start it then log in with vnc [04:37] i could just log in with vnc [04:37] cuts a few step out of the equation [04:37] how would i add that script to start with the machine [04:37] =? [04:38] **? [04:39] does that x11vnc start it's own session like the vncserver i use? [04:39] or it uses the session it was started from? [04:40] jazzkutya, dont quite understand what u mean.. === curt is now known as Guest39473 [04:41] well then you better not administer any server on the internet :) [04:41] wait i understand after reading it again.. [04:42] it starts its own session [04:42] does it change to an unprivileged user if started as root? [04:42] ...nope wrong. it uses the current session [04:42] i'm not on linux right now to check this [04:43] well then it's complicated [04:43] i made an .sh script to start it, i just need to know how to add the .sh script to session and startup, and if that will even work. [04:43] somehow you can setup autologin with ubuntu i guess... i was able to do this with 8.04 i don't know how it works with current ubuntu [04:44] i dont need it to autologin.. [04:45] ok screw that question, answer this. [04:45] you have to autostart your script from kde _and_ setup autologin so the the system will automatically start a kde session to which you can connect to with kde [04:46] im adding it to session and startup, for the command i put /home/***/x11vnc.sh [04:46] but afaik ubuntu has a vnc server builtin that can be set up with simple gui [04:46] or do i have to put /home/***/./x11vnc.sh [04:46] ? [04:49] they are the same [04:49] oh.. [04:50] thought it was imparative to put the "./" to make sh scripts launch.. [04:50] in commandline yes but not in an absolute path [04:50] an absolute path is one that starts with / [04:51] mmk, good to know. [04:51] thx === fenris is now known as Guest4248 === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === kubuntu is now known as Guest78365 [05:52] hi all [08:51] Hi all. [09:55] Hi, Can I add custom commands to the menu ? like send to > usb flash disc? [09:56] Syria: you're referring to the right-click menu in, e.g. dolphin for files? [09:57] Torch: I found the solution ! thank you buddy, Dolphin > Settings > Configure Dolphin > General > Context Menu. There are options to "Show 'Delete' command", "Show 'Copy To' and 'Move To' commands". [09:58] But still don't know how to protect a zipped file with a password! [11:06] test [11:08] hello everybody, can i please get some obfs2 tor bridges? i am currently blocked by chinese fw - you can get them here: https://bridges.torproject.org/?transport=obfs2 . thank you very much [11:10] please help me out and support a free internet [11:30] Hi everyone, I've a problem with the ath9k driver for my Atheros AR9285 controller. The signal is very very low even if I'm near the AP and the connection is very unstable. Any idea? === FabianB is now known as Guest20227 [12:15] Hello people [12:17] I need some help on a startup problem in Kubuntu 12.04: I start always with the wrong resolution at the logon screen. I use a 1366x768 notebook screen and a fullHD external monitor. The login screen is shown at 1024x768. [12:52] Das_Auge: gfx card and driver would help ;-) [13:06] howdy all [13:07] !manual [13:07] The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [13:09] Torch: Intel on-chip: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller. Driver: i915 === fred_ is now known as Guest69129 === miro is now known as Guest47738 [14:22] hallo, here is .. [14:23] alsitnetpc, ?? [14:33] Hey all, i'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with unity+compiz; I want to switch to kde as easy as possible; What's the best course of action ? [14:44] FlowRiser: just install kubuntu-desktop package [14:44] FlowRiser: and remove unity [14:44] !purekde [14:44] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde » [14:44] FlowRiser, install kubuntu-desktop , then you cah remove ubuntu-desktop if you wish [14:45] Peace-, BluesKaj, thanks will do :) [14:45] BluesKaj: for you information removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't remove all the packages :P [14:45] yes , he has to purge them [14:45] BluesKaj: mmm ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [14:47] yeah , but the page you poated for pure kde used to be behind anbd didn't include 12.10 until recently , hence my suggestions, Peace- [14:47] BluesKaj: have you tried with purge? [14:47] that page takes ages to update , I'm surprised [14:47] for what i remember it doesn't do the job [14:48] yes it woks ok but it's more work [14:48] ah [14:48] BluesKaj: never installed unity :P [14:49] I did , but switched to gnome shell very quickly , then after a week i got rid of it as well [14:50] BluesKaj: :P echo $(apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depen/ || /Rec/{ gsub(/\,/,"") ;gsub(/Recommends:/,"");gsub(/Depends:/,""); print} ' | awk '{ printf "%s", $0 }') [14:50] prints all the ubuntu dependences :D [14:51] BluesKaj: i used this method to reinstall kde :D http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/ [14:52] well after removing gnome i just purged all the ubuntu apps except for synaptic and then used autremove and autoclean after a reboot ...seems to have done the job ..I'm still running the same install [14:53] good === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:59] I still prefer synaptic to muon tho [15:01] Salut tout le monde =) [15:02] hello brumesvitas , c'est anglais ici [15:02] Oh sorry =) [15:03] !fr [15:03] Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [15:03] but you can ask your question in english , brumesvitas [15:04] Ok thanks =) [15:07] Hello, is there a certain way to tell KDM at which reslution to start? [15:11] Ok, so i'm downloading the kubuntu-desktop package [15:11] can i just disable unity, rather than uninstalling it ? [15:13] FlowRiser, you can choose which desktop to run at the login page [15:13] sure [15:13] choose kde4, or whatever others you have installed , such as gnome-shell, gnome-panel, xfce4 etc [15:14] BluesKaj, that might be a problem ... thanks for reminding me to change the login screen to unity-greeter; I'm running a custom greeter [15:14] Haven't gotten the chance to add a user session change :D [15:17] personally i think the greeter page i kde is fugly ...it's greyblue theme is awful [15:19] BluesKaj, that's why i'm installing kde, to help d_ed work on his greeter themes [15:20] lightdm-greeter-kde just uses the default kde background by default. (Meaning it looks much better with 4.10...) [15:20] BluesKaj, my current greeter theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBFlNp13MQ0 [15:20] there is an option to change the bckground on the greeter page in system settings login page but it rarely works [15:23] Right, so i guess it installed... fingers crossed. [15:34] BluesKaj, it worked! i now have kde installed, tbh it's slower than unity+compiz, but it looks great [15:36] FlowRiser, kwin uses version of compiz , you can get most of the same effects in kmenu>computer>sytemsettings>desktop effects [15:37] without using compiz [15:38] Hello world, I have a problem with kontact and Kmail, I crashes. I've only managed to set up my Gmail account on it and since then I can't start it anymore. Any Ideeas? [15:41] ovidiu-florin_, unless you need a database email system for work or home office , don't use kmail if it crashes on your system ..I use thunderbird [15:42] then Why does kubuntu ship with Kmail? [15:45] ovidiu-florin_, that's what a lot of KDE users have wonderedd about for the last 3yrs , but one can disable akonadi server for kmail and other PIM apps and instyall aemail of your choice [15:45] ovidiu-florin_: it tries to stick to KDE software whenever possible, sadly kmail is not the most stable piece of software there [15:45] I've tried kmail in the previous release, and I really like it, maybe more than thunderbird [15:45] but it's very unstable [15:46] Which is too bad. Kmail had a lot of potential. [15:46] ovidiu-florin_, ithink it was an attempt by Canonical to increase penetration into the workplace /market === moji_ is now known as moji [15:46] BluesKaj: you may exclusively blame KDE for the current Kontact suite [15:47] debian did the right thing sticking to the old one [15:47] well to include it ..sorry , that was apoor choice of words [15:47] kde is responsible [15:48] ok, Ill go on the #kde channel [15:48] but it doen't work at all on my setup ...segfaults after abot 2 days of use ...as if it gets infected by a virus like windows [15:48] that didn't have anything to do with canonical either, just the kubuntu team [15:50] yofel, yes I'm aware of that , i just never liked Canonicals enterprise motives and suspect that kde4/kmail was convenient for them [15:51] well, if it had been better maybe they would've even used it. Sad that it's not [15:52] but I blame Canoonical for not pushing KDE for a better PIM suite that actually works [15:52] I doubt Canonical would have much influence with the KDE boys. [15:53] too bad [15:53] who does KDE favour then when it comes to OSs [15:54] Yes, I agree. Lacking a great mail client will hurt KDE in the long run. [15:54] BluesKaj: I don't have the sense that KDE favours any one distro over any other. [15:55] it's not the default DE on any larger distro I know of either [15:55] yofel: SuSE? [15:55] I'm searching for an ideea of an application that I want to make and to know that people are using it, maybe this is it: an email client :D [15:55] hm... [15:55] DarthFrog, somew=how i doubt that ..everyone has favs , whether thy admit it or not ...I'd like see what OSs the KDE ppl use in their evreyday work [15:56] DarthFrog: they at least seem to have both gnome and kde on the default DVD [15:56] thunderbird is agood email , I recommend it highly ..easy to setup and use [15:57] yofel: Which is a desirable thing, IMHO. [15:57] BluesKaj: I like and use Tbird, too. [15:57] Mainly because Kmail doesn't handle HTML mail properly. [15:57] depends on your target, if a user doesn't know what gnome or kde is then that's debatable [15:57] * yofel uses tbird too, because akonadi is too slow [15:58] * DarthFrog doesn't see the point in akonadi/nepomuk. It just consumes resources and gets in the way. [15:59] nepomuk is getting better and better, but akonadi just stays slow :/ [15:59] DarthFrog, exactly it's an unecessary burden for ordinary users [15:59] and mysql is even the best working backend -.- [15:59] nepomuk is useless to me [16:00] what exactly is nepomuk and akonadi? [16:00] !akonadi [16:00] !nepomuk [16:00] Ha. the bot knows nothing about them. [16:00] QUESTION: virtual desktops, how do i enable them in kde ? [16:01] the factoid bot is disabled ? === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps [16:01] ubottu: ping [16:01] pong! [16:01] lol, that is nice [16:01] nope, it's just lacking knowledge [16:01] !info nepomuk [16:01] Package nepomuk does not exist in quantal [16:01] FlowRiser: Use System Settings. [16:01] he [16:01] FlowRiser: system settings -> workspace behaviour [16:01] ubottu, hello [16:02] yofel, DarthFrog thanks [16:02] We need a kbottu. [16:02] FlowRiser: theres a widget called Pager that helps you manage them, so you don't have to go to system setting [16:02] there is kubotu, but for different purposes [16:03] !pim [16:04] !info nepomuk-core [16:04] nepomuk-core (source: nepomuk-core): Nepomuk Semantik Desktop core libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.3-0ubuntu0.1 (quantal), package size 374 kB, installed size 1475 kB [16:04] bah [16:05] look at http://nepomuk.kde.org/ if you want to know what it is.. [16:05] ovidiu-florin_, mersi frumos :D [16:06] FlowRiser: Cu plăcere [16:08] Nepomuk is very ambitious. Unfortunately, it's still early days for this type of technology and its immaturity gets in the way frequently. === miro is now known as Guest44522 [16:29] BBL [16:29] DarthFrog: actually, I'd disagree [16:30] DarthFrog: I was hoping around the new indexer code [16:30] and it's pretty good [16:30] it's really really fast right now, probably because the indexers don't do alot of things [16:31] I even wrote one to extract data out of ebooks and mobi files, but it didn't get into the repo because if issues [16:34] DarthFrog: my next mini project resulted in this for homerun : http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/09/plasma-desktopwr2226.png [16:34] but I can't get the poster to resize properly right now [16:36] shadeslayer: Looks nice. [16:37] The one feature I'd like to see added (and it may already be there, IDK) is when I enter text into krunner, that it runs the program of that name instead of some web page, text document or picture. [16:38] actually that would be a wieghting issue with krunner [16:39] DarthFrog: can you give me a test case where I can reproduce this? [16:39] because for eg. if I type quassel, the program always appears before any documents [16:39] shadeslayer: Not right now off the top of my head. I will do so the next time I encounter the issue. [16:40] DarthFrog: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-w11147 [16:40] DarthFrog: okay [16:40] KRunner 'learns' as you use it [16:41] I'm trying to recall the last time I encountered the issue. [16:42] :) [16:42] once you find a testcase and can reproduce it on 4.10, then we can poke people in #nepomuk-kde [16:42] or I can go over to Vishesh's house and heckle him :P [16:42] the thing is, I now work around it almost without conscious intervention. :-) [16:42] haha [16:46] shadeslayer: Has 4.10 been released? I'm on 4.9.97. [16:47] * DarthFrog goes to run dist-upgrade. [16:47] that would be what's current [16:47] heh, 4.9.97 is what will become 4.10 eventually [16:47] DarthFrog: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.10_Release_Schedule [16:48] so if you can reproduce that with 4.10 ( or 4.9.97 for that matter ) , please do file a bug with full test cases :) [16:48] yofel: Thanks. [16:49] shadeslayer: I find trying to file a bug to be the equivalent of "a maze of twisty passages, all alike". I ususally give up in frustration. [16:49] heh [16:49] ok, I agree, bugzilla doesn't have the friendliest user interface [16:49] I keep getting sent back to a previous page. === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === peter__ is now known as howudodat === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars [18:22] !u [18:22] U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [18:27] ok BluesKaj [18:28] OerHeks, I was merely checking the factoid to show my wife the rules [18:30] or that that rule , at least :) [18:31] It is clear and helpfull, you know english is not my native language selection on Kubuntu :-) [18:32] * OerHeks loves the factoids [18:33] agreed, and I despise those shortforms and silly text-style words that some use here ..I'm guilty of one (ppl) when I shoule use "people" [18:34] err should [18:35] u are offtopic :) [18:36] proper words in any language should be used [18:36] not really it's a rule of the room [18:36] and all should be aware of them :) === kubuntu is now known as Guest35032 === kloeri_ is now known as kloeri [19:18] hi, does the new kubuntu install in dual boot as a program under windows? Its silyl but someone told me that and i'm verifying [19:19] or any clue what might have given them that idea? They said it was listed in Windows under "program Files"? [19:20] that would be installing using Wubi [19:20] really? what does it do? [19:22] install kubuntu in Windows as a program. The system is stored in a file and added to the boot options [19:22] Rather slow and really only usable to try it out or when you have no other choice [19:23] you can remove it using add/remove program in windows if you want then [19:23] i see. thank you very much!!! you're amazing for knowing this! === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dniMretsaM is now known as dniMretsaM_away [19:34] there is a misconception about ubuntu that it can only run in windows . Even my daughter asked me about that since some sales jerk at a bigbox store told her that was the case [19:40] BluesKaj, most sales persons don't know jack. [19:42] no kidding ... or they are deliberately misleading customers because windows is the only install that's allowed...most stores won't sell a raw pc or laptop === peter__ is now known as howudodat [19:54] I like to have my taskbar vertical, but I also display the window title there [19:55] I use "current application" plasmoid to display window name in horizontal taskbar [19:55] this doesn't work when the taskbar is vertical [19:55] anyone knows a plasmoid that would do this? or a workaround? [19:56] any trick to see the window name (I have window bars off, using awesome) === jayhunold is now known as jhunold === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM [20:49] ciao [20:51] bye === haji is now known as Guest19376 === j is now known as y2j === y2j is now known as j === j is now known as Guest59724 === Guest59724 is now known as y2j === zeb_ is now known as ObsequiousNewt [22:29] Hello? [22:30] Is anyone here? [22:33] yes, just ask. [22:39] Sorry [22:40] Um, I was trying to resize my root partition from a LiveCD. [22:40] I had tested this on a VM with the same conditions and it worked fine. [22:41] But when I actually tried it, the partitioner seemed to freeze up. [22:41] ObsequiousNewt: Are you using KDE's partition manager? [22:41] And now I have the partition, which has been resized the way I want it, and it won't boot and in fact is labeled as having no file format. [22:42] Yeah, I was using the one installed by default on the live cd. [22:42] But it worked in the VM... [22:43] So, anyway, I ran boot-repair [22:43] And I got this: [22:43] ObsequiousNewt: Hmm, well I had the kde one freeze on me too once. However Gparted (gnome's partition manager) works fine, ever since I have been using that one. [22:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1529244 [22:44] So is it just a bug of the KDE PM? [22:44] More importantly, is my system in any way recoverable? [22:46] ObsequiousNewt: What you need to do is some disk checking/repairing. What I can conclude from this message is that the boot sector with Grub is fine, however the first and second partition are in a state where the system doesn't know what it is. [22:46] That's what it looked like. [22:46] Wait, sda2/ [22:46] ? [22:46] I didn't do anything to that. Couldn't, either. [22:47] ObsequiousNewt: Oh wait nvm, I'm not reading correctly... [22:48] i think it's safe to ignore sda2 and sda5 [22:48] sda1 [22:48] seems broken [22:48] ObsequiousNewt: Do you happen to know what kind of filesystem it was? [22:48] not good [22:48] Torch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [22:48] ObsequiousNewt: Ext4? [22:48] Yeah [22:48] I'm fairly sure [22:49] ObsequiousNewt: http://justcheckingonall.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/howto-repair-broken-ext4-partitions/ [22:49] It was Kubuntu 12.10 64-bit [22:49] Thanks [22:49] I'll try that [22:49] ObsequiousNewt: This is also a good one, actually better: http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/ [22:49] ObsequiousNewt: Or at least I've used the second guide once with a succesfull result :), good luck. [22:50] i doubt fsck will help, it will just say it's not an ext filesystem [22:50] It might. [22:50] I'm going to try both of them, honestly. [22:51] there's gpart (don'T confuse with gparted) for recovery that i have not used myself and another one whose name i forget [22:52] ah, testdisk [22:52] there are a couple of "recovery live cds" where this can be found [22:54] though gpart might be the better tool for your case.... can't tell right now. [22:54] Huh [22:55] Okay, running fsck.ext4 gives me "The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. [22:55] Despite that it's actually ext4. [22:55] now there was something in that second link about recovering the superblock from one of its backups [23:02] Well, I'm trying that, but they're all complaining of a bad magic number. [23:03] suggesting the backups are dead too [23:04] And the last five say "Invalid argument while trying to open /dev/sda1" [23:04] Odd, that. [23:06] I'm trying gpart.