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rigoim trying to install raring and get em:12:34
rigodpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-3.7.2-030702-generic:  linux-headers-3.7.2-030702-generic depends on linux-headers-3.7.2-030702; however:   Package linux-headers-3.7.2-030702 is not installed.12:35
rigoi download the 3 .deb files from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.7.2-raring/ and type dpkg -i *.deb12:35
rigo12.10 x6412:36
yofel_rigo: sounds like you're missing the "all" file12:49
rigoso i need one more file? u mean this? linux-headers-3.7.2-030702_3.7.2-030702.201301111424_all.deb12:52
rigogr8 thanks. than i need 4 files to install. i give a try.12:53
rigoworks like charm. thanks.12:57
rigowhat do u suggest? should i remove all of the old kernels?12:57
yofel_feel free to do that *after* making sure the new one works fine12:58
rigowhat is the easyest way to do that?12:59
BluesKajhowdy all13:06
penguin42Hey BK14:15
BluesKajI think something in my hardware has been written out of the 3.7 and 3.8rc kernels . Neither work on my pc , not even on 12.1014:28
penguin42BluesKaj: They haven't been written out; you're just hitting a bug14:28
penguin42BluesKaj: The only stuff removed recently was old i38614:28
BluesKajothers with similar if not the same HW don't have a problem it seems14:29
penguin42as I say a bug14:30
BluesKajcould be my graphics card , but I need it for this monitor ...no VGA inputs14:30
penguin42it fails really early for you doesn't it, even with the recovery options?14:32
penguin42have you altered grub not to use graphics stuff?14:33
penguin42that's a disaster for graphics card compatibility14:33
BluesKajubiquity fails , even if I can get a desktop with the live dvd14:33
penguin42what kernel is on the live dvd?14:34
penguin42(ubiquity failing isn't too unusual)14:34
BluesKajwell, I'm using the daily build and the default is 3.7 I believe14:34
penguin42well if the live dvd is starting up with a 3.7 but you can't boot an installed 3.7 then that adds more to the idea it's grub/kernel hand off, and if you suspect the graphics card then it makes sense to put that back to basics14:35
BluesKajwhich is ?14:36
penguin42BluesKaj: If you install an old version that works, then uncomment the GRUB_TERMINAL=console line in /etc/default/grub and do an update-grub   it'll stop it using the graphics stuff14:37
* penguin42 notices there is now a /boot/grub/gfxblacklist.txt I wonder when that landed14:39
BluesKajpenguin42, how would I install an older kernel like the 3.5 to run 13.04 if the dvd won't install the OS ,,,I'm not going to upgrade this 12.10 to 13.04 via an internet upgrade ..I need one stable OS14:42
penguin42so what do you currently have installed and working solidly?14:43
penguin42you can put the grub in 12.10 in text mode and then try installing a 3.7 kernel, you can always just try it14:45
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BluesKajpenguin42, what do you mean put grub in text mode , not sure what that is?15:01
penguin42BluesKaj: When Grub starts it either uses oldschool VGA text mode where each byte in video memory is one character or it uses graphics mode where it draws the characters, the later is more complex15:04
penguin42BluesKaj: Good old VGA text mode works with pretty much any graphics card15:04
penguin42BluesKaj: In graphics mode the 'hand off' to the kernel seems a bit hairier as well15:05
BluesKajpenguin42, well the dvd seems to be using text mode when I try to install 13.04 from the install menu page , because there's no graphic just text15:06
penguin42BluesKaj: Right, but once you've installed it'll install grub and then try and probably boot in graphics mode15:07
BluesKajif do the noapci and nomodeset to the desktop, then ubuquity tries the graphics mode and jusrt sits there with spinning cursor15:08
penguin42BluesKaj: as I say, I'd try seeing if you can get a 3.7/3.8 to boot on an existing install and try and avoid ubiquity for the moment15:09
BluesKajpenguin42, think I'll wai til I see some fixes to amd and nvidia on the kernel in launchpad since it's still pretty early days15:10
penguin42fair enough, worth looking at /etc/default/grub so you can see what's there15:19
BluesKajlooks pretty standard15:26
penguin42BluesKaj: Yep, see the GRUB_TERMINAL, that's the one I normally turn on if there are any boot time graphics probs15:28
penguin42the other thing if you have one installed that won't boot is if you can get grub up then before booting the kernel edit the option and remove all vthandoff lines and all quiet and splash stuff and see if it gets there15:29
BluesKajI have no  GRUB_TERMINAL , line in /etc/default/grub, penguin4215:33
penguin42not one starting with #  preceeded by the comment 'Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)    ?15:36
BluesKajpenguin42, this is the first line GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep , then further down , GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480  ..should these be commented?15:39
penguin42sounds very different from mine15:42
penguin42http://paste.ubuntu.com/1527760/  is mine15:42
BluesKajpenguin42, here's my default grub http://paste.kde.org/645956/16:22
penguin42hmm that's boringly uncommented16:23
BluesKajwell i didn't write it , except for the terminal line :)16:25
penguin42hmm wonder why, mine is an upgrade, but would someone change it to remove the comments?16:27
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