[07:24] ajmitch, ping [07:34] coolbhavi: hi [07:35] ajmitch, should we go ahead with a small informal status update meet here? [07:36] if you wish, though there won't be much to talk about :) [07:36] because I hadnt had the time to update agenda [07:36] I haven't seen any response on-list about meeting today [07:36] yes so [07:36] I had only one update [07:37] lintian with arb profile is in place now [07:37] yep, I saw that [07:37] and i have updated the spec on the same [07:37] I'll try & use that to do a pass over everything in the queue & put the results up [07:38] sure :) feedback is welcome :-) [07:39] I just haven't spent much time working on the queue or tools to manage it like I promised [07:40] no issues ajmitch [07:40] since my plan was something to track votes a bit better, and run lintian, licensecheck & build binary packages to test [07:41] hmm same here so I reported a bug too on the voting system [07:41] in myapps [07:41] yeah I saw that [07:42] reg the call for arb members [07:42] you can set up a poll & get ~ubuntu-dev to vote on it? [07:42] what we did last time was list the names, and include 'none of the above' as an option [07:43] good thing is highvoltage is willing to step in again and forwarded the application [07:43] reg ben I dint hear from him though [07:43] so that makes it only one person [07:44] and yes I'll get in touch with techboard [07:44] I was hoping ben would be willing, since he nominated himself [07:45] he has a lot of experience [07:48] yes I know but I reached out to him a couple of times with the process and received no response [07:49] hm [07:51] So as said earlier I was thinking of another call in april and try to reach to him and get wendar in [07:51] hopefully [07:52] so that arb would be in near full strength again [07:53] sounds good, and those that arent in the arb can still do everything but vote [07:58] yes I was thinking to send a mail to app-review-contributors for something like app review week this cycle [07:58] sounds like a good idea [07:58] and help on reviewing the apps [07:58] sure then I'll do it soon [08:00] the last update I had is wendar has expressed interest to write a mail to app developers that the review process takes bit of time [08:00] she said she is willing to come up with a draft soon [08:02] 'a bit of time' is an understatement, sadly :) [08:03] I hope that developers are willing to be patient, and I hope that the sandboxing doesn't take too long to implement [08:03] yes hope so :-) [08:03] thats it from my side [08:03] * ajmitch doesn't really have anything to add [08:05] no issues ajmitch thanks a lot for the quick chat :-) I'm sure when you return you will rock! [08:06] we'll just let highvoltage sort out the rest of the queue :) [08:09] haha seems a great idea :) I'll also devote some more time to the ARB :) [16:48] ajmitch: what does the queue look like these days, btw? [16:50] highvoltage, growth has subdued a bit [16:50] now [16:56] hiya coolbhavi [16:56] hey cwayne [16:57] hey cielak :) [16:58] hello coolbhavi! :) [17:00] oh hello everyone. didn't expect there to be so much traffic here on a sunday morning :) [17:01] hey highvoltage :) [17:01] how is it going? [17:08] I'm doing ok thanks and you? [17:09] doing fine done with lintian checks for arb [17:09] reading on apparmor [17:10] now [17:12] coolbhavi,ajmitch: actually, what I was suggesting was a queue flush on everything before quantal [17:13] wendar, yes [17:13] coolbhavi,ajmitch: we've done those before, with a polite message that we only review for the *current* release, and they're welcome to resumbit for quantal after they've tested on quantal [17:14] basically, reject all the old submissions [17:15] wendar, seems good till atleast we have our tooling in place [17:16] I can do that but the only thing is I am thinking about the feelings of the developers [17:27] wendar, would it be ok if I bring up a small draft as a reply to your mail on the list? [17:27] as you gave the idea I'm asking you [17:32] coolbhavi: don't mind at all :) [17:33] wendar, drafting a mail now then :-) [17:40] wendar, current release = stable release? [17:40] yes, current stable release [17:40] (instead of current development release) [17:41] ok thanks [17:45] sent mail wendar [19:15] wendar: occasionally there are developers wanting to target the LTS, or are you just going by submission date? [19:16] ajmitch: there are some developers targeting the LTS, one even specifically said they will only support the LTS [19:16] ajmitch: but ARB policy isn't current release + current LTS [19:16] ajmitch: it's only current release [19:16] I'm kind of divided on that [19:17] which should probably change, at least for the next LTS [19:17] I still run precise on my laptop :) [19:17] and it was my greatest hesitation is suggesting the queue sweep [19:17] yes, I hate telling people that they need to resubmit because of something we didn't do [19:17] and, if we had more resources to review packages, I'd go for changing the policy for the current LTS [19:17] but, since we are so limited in resources [19:18] and, there's really no way we'll get through all the old package [19:18] s [19:18] staying true to the actual policy is a good way to focus work efforts [19:18] yeah [19:18] we can't dig ourselves out [19:19] but, maybe we can wipe the slate clean [19:19] perhaps [19:19] looking at what has been submitted since the quantal release, I think we could catch up on that [19:19] * ajmitch has to head off to work now, mondays... [19:19] yah [19:19] it's for you all (ARB members) to decide