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| sirdancealot1 | o/ | 13:21 |
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| trijntje | Hi all. I'm thinking about writing a tv guide lens. Before I start, I want to make sure that a similar project does't already exist, so there's no duplicate effort | 16:49 |
| trijntje | I've been looking around on launchpad but it looks like there is no such thing, is that correct? | 16:52 |
| sirdancealot1 | i wonder if theres any effort at all </troll | 16:59 |
| sirdancealot1 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-r-tv-development http://www.doadjustyourset.com/2012/11/01/ubuntu-tv-uds-r-update/ | 17:00 |
| sirdancealot1 | two todos i found today | 17:00 |
| trijntje | sirdancealot1: thanks, it looks there is some stuff for a tv program guide on the todo lists | 17:09 |
| mhall119 | trijntje: tgm4883 is already working on a TV guide lens using MythTV as a backend | 18:27 |
| trijntje | mhall119: do you know where his code lives? I don't see anything about a TV guide on his launchpad https://code.launchpad.net/~tgm4883 | 18:31 |
| mhall119 | trijntje: nope, you'd have to ask him | 18:31 |
| trijntje | mhall119: thanks for the pointer, I'll shoot him an email | 18:36 |
| tgm4883 | bobweaver, ping | 20:01 |
| tgm4883 | trijntje, I've just got the scope portion written. I haven't started the lens portion yet | 20:02 |
| tgm4883 | trijntje, bobweaver was going to make one for me, I'm unsure if he's started on it yet. You should at least talk with him on what new layout features are available | 20:03 |
| bobweaver | hey tgm4883 | 20:38 |
| bobweaver | tgm4883, it is kinda hard at this time due to some things that are going on internal with Ubuntu TV | 20:43 |
| * bobweaver is stuck between Rock and a Hard Place | 20:43 | |
| bobweaver | You know the Hurry up and wait game | 20:43 |
| bobweaver | hey tgm4883 I am not recording anything on myth tv atm but I can not change channels. what is up with that ? backend is up and says that there is nothing recording but yet I can only change 3 channels | 21:55 |
| bobweaver | Like I can switch for 10_1 to 10_2 and 10_3 but nothing at all that is like 8.1 or 32.1 | 21:56 |
| bobweaver | Well that was crazy I tried to open up myth front end on backend and it says that all tuners are busy | 21:59 |
| bobweaver | I am rebooting backend to see if that helps | 22:00 |
| bobweaver | AllRight I got all my Channels back | 22:03 |
| trijntje | hi tgm4883 and bobweaver | 22:07 |
| bobweaver | Hello trijntje | 22:08 |
| trijntje | A little bit of background: I want to create a tv guide lens to ship with the localised dutch ubuntu images, so I'm not specifically involved with ubuntu TV | 22:10 |
| trijntje | I'm guessing that the same lens can be used on the TV and desktop interface? | 22:10 |
| bobweaver | with myth tv ? | 22:10 |
| bobweaver | trijntje, it all depends on what you are using as a backend if I understand you righ t | 22:12 |
| bobweaver | so you want to make a iso that is only for the dutch and uses mythtv as backend to read lens ? | 22:12 |
| bobweaver | at any rate I do not want to be involved in anything carry's water in Nationalism. What can you tell me trijntje that makes it not Nationalism ? | 22:14 |
| trijntje | bobweaver: I just want to create a 'normal' tv guide lens, ie for use on the desktop. | 22:15 |
| bobweaver | ahh | 22:15 |
| bobweaver | in unity 3d or 2d ? | 22:15 |
| bobweaver | like you want the Rendering to look like a tvguide ? | 22:15 |
| trijntje | 3d I think, since 2d is no longer available on the latest releases of ubuntu | 22:15 |
| bobweaver | ok you will have to hack unity 3d then | 22:16 |
| bobweaver | adding things like TileHorizantial.cpp but make that for guide and also need to make a way that Unity knows that that is the render type that you want to render | 22:17 |
| bobweaver | this can be dont in the lens its self | 22:17 |
| bobweaver | trijntje, what kinda lens have you made in the past ? | 22:17 |
| trijntje | bobweaver: this would be my first lens. For now I'd be happy to get the functionality working in the default unity layout, without anything fance | 22:18 |
| trijntje | *fancy | 22:19 |
| trijntje | You were thinking something along these lines? http://askubuntu.com/questions/94490/what-is-the-api-for-new-lens-features-in-the-ubuntu-tv-alpha | 22:19 |
| bobweaver | No that is all fake | 22:20 |
| bobweaver | but Render type like that is possible | 22:20 |
| bobweaver | right now if you take a look at this kens | 22:20 |
| bobweaver | lens * | 22:20 |
| bobweaver | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/u2t/watchseries/view/head:/src/unity-lens-series | 22:20 |
| bobweaver | See line 37 | 22:20 |
| bobweaver | and 40 | 22:20 |
| bobweaver | so in 3d there is three render types | 22:21 |
| bobweaver | Coverflow | 22:21 |
| bobweaver | and the 2 that are in that example | 22:21 |
| bobweaver | but if you make a new rendering type then you can call tha t | 22:21 |
| bobweaver | I do not think that you can call coverflow though because they took it out of 3d because it is not ready | 22:22 |
| bobweaver | at anyrate if you want to just make a lens that works. Questions that I would ask myself is where am I getting my data from ? how do I want to render it to screen. what is the effects that I want to put on it. how can I take a data point and read from it in python so that dee knows what is going on ? | 22:25 |
| bobweaver | things like that | 22:25 |
| bobweaver | like if I am using mythtv I am going to query the backend If I am using youtube I am going to query youtube api | 22:26 |
| bobweaver | what Am I going to pass to unity as iconhint mimetype uri name | 22:26 |
| trijntje | bobweaver: yeah, first I should get more familiar with how lenses work. But if tgm4883 has the scope portion written I could just use that as backend and only write a simple lens right? | 22:27 |
| bobweaver | well that all depends on what it is that you are using | 22:27 |
| bobweaver | data source that is ^^ | 22:27 |
| trijntje | or are those scopes using mythtv as backend? I'm not very familiar with mythTV, but that would probably make the lens rather big :P | 22:27 |
| bobweaver | if mythtv then yes you can use his api | 22:27 |
| bobweaver | It all depends on where you want to get your data from | 22:28 |
| * bobweaver knows nothing at all about dutch tv | 22:28 | |
| bobweaver | the picture from the link you posted is Unity 2d | 22:29 |
| bobweaver | it reads xml files that are hard coded at this point | 22:30 |
| bobweaver | the file is called Epg.qml it is under the dash in the ubuntu tv mockup code. I took it out of my stuff for now | 22:30 |
| bobweaver | I use unity 2d with qml webview to just render a mythweb | 22:31 |
| trijntje | bobweaver: it looks like mythtv has a bunch of grabbers for Dutch television, so I guess I'll use one of those | 22:32 |
| trijntje | http://wiki.mythtv.nl/index.php/Grabbers | 22:32 |
| bobweaver | http://imagebin.org/242788 | 22:33 |
| bobweaver | I just change from tv to desktop to tablet with this | 22:34 |
| bobweaver | http://imagebin.org/242789 | 22:35 |
| trijntje | thats handy | 22:37 |
| bobweaver | yes it is | 22:38 |
| bobweaver | I can change any glib settings that there is from there | 22:38 |
| bobweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFSgaX5E0 | 22:39 |
| bobweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBr55htroA | 22:39 |
| bobweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb8s7pSBu30 | 22:40 |
| bobweaver | Sorry about the sound I do not have the money for a good mic | 22:40 |
| * bobweaver is super poor :) | 22:40 | |
| trijntje | Thanks for your time bobweaver, you've given me a lot to think about. I'll go read some more and try to get a simple lens to work, and I'll contact you or tgm when I've gotten started | 22:41 |
| bobweaver | Cool have fun with that | 22:42 |
| bobweaver | trijntje, you may also look to people like davidcalle and mhall119 mhall119 knows alot about lens also | 22:42 |
| bobweaver | I think he wrote the guide on wiki.ubuntu.com but I could be wrong about tha t | 22:43 |
| bobweaver | that * | 22:43 |
| bobweaver | trijntje, thanks for looking at my videos :) even though I am american :P | 22:43 |
| bobweaver | tgm4883, how do I turn down vol in myth just the vol that the player is using | 22:44 |
| bobweaver | ? | 22:44 |
| trijntje | bobweaver: not everybody speaks English, so we can't all use the same system. Some of us need localised apps ;) | 22:44 |
| trijntje | See you later, have a nice evening! | 22:45 |
| bobweaver | that is why there is things like u2d.tr("text goes here to translate ") | 22:45 |
| bobweaver | but it was nice to meet you | 22:45 |
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