=== rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti [13:21] o/ [16:49] Hi all. I'm thinking about writing a tv guide lens. Before I start, I want to make sure that a similar project does't already exist, so there's no duplicate effort [16:52] I've been looking around on launchpad but it looks like there is no such thing, is that correct? [16:59] i wonder if theres any effort at all https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-r-tv-development http://www.doadjustyourset.com/2012/11/01/ubuntu-tv-uds-r-update/ [17:00] two todos i found today [17:09] sirdancealot1: thanks, it looks there is some stuff for a tv program guide on the todo lists [18:27] trijntje: tgm4883 is already working on a TV guide lens using MythTV as a backend [18:31] mhall119: do you know where his code lives? I don't see anything about a TV guide on his launchpad https://code.launchpad.net/~tgm4883 [18:31] trijntje: nope, you'd have to ask him [18:36] mhall119: thanks for the pointer, I'll shoot him an email [20:01] bobweaver, ping [20:02] trijntje, I've just got the scope portion written. I haven't started the lens portion yet [20:03] trijntje, bobweaver was going to make one for me, I'm unsure if he's started on it yet. You should at least talk with him on what new layout features are available [20:38] hey tgm4883 [20:43] tgm4883, it is kinda hard at this time due to some things that are going on internal with Ubuntu TV [20:43] * bobweaver is stuck between Rock and a Hard Place [20:43] You know the Hurry up and wait game [21:55] hey tgm4883 I am not recording anything on myth tv atm but I can not change channels. what is up with that ? backend is up and says that there is nothing recording but yet I can only change 3 channels [21:56] Like I can switch for 10_1 to 10_2 and 10_3 but nothing at all that is like 8.1 or 32.1 [21:59] Well that was crazy I tried to open up myth front end on backend and it says that all tuners are busy [22:00] I am rebooting backend to see if that helps [22:03] AllRight I got all my Channels back [22:07] hi tgm4883 and bobweaver [22:08] Hello trijntje [22:10] A little bit of background: I want to create a tv guide lens to ship with the localised dutch ubuntu images, so I'm not specifically involved with ubuntu TV [22:10] I'm guessing that the same lens can be used on the TV and desktop interface? [22:10] with myth tv ? [22:12] trijntje, it all depends on what you are using as a backend if I understand you righ t [22:12] so you want to make a iso that is only for the dutch and uses mythtv as backend to read lens ? [22:14] at any rate I do not want to be involved in anything carry's water in Nationalism. What can you tell me trijntje that makes it not Nationalism ? [22:15] bobweaver: I just want to create a 'normal' tv guide lens, ie for use on the desktop. [22:15] ahh [22:15] in unity 3d or 2d ? [22:15] like you want the Rendering to look like a tvguide ? [22:15] 3d I think, since 2d is no longer available on the latest releases of ubuntu [22:16] ok you will have to hack unity 3d then [22:17] adding things like TileHorizantial.cpp but make that for guide and also need to make a way that Unity knows that that is the render type that you want to render [22:17] this can be dont in the lens its self [22:17] trijntje, what kinda lens have you made in the past ? [22:18] bobweaver: this would be my first lens. For now I'd be happy to get the functionality working in the default unity layout, without anything fance [22:19] *fancy [22:19] You were thinking something along these lines? http://askubuntu.com/questions/94490/what-is-the-api-for-new-lens-features-in-the-ubuntu-tv-alpha [22:20] No that is all fake [22:20] but Render type like that is possible [22:20] right now if you take a look at this kens [22:20] lens * [22:20] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/u2t/watchseries/view/head:/src/unity-lens-series [22:20] See line 37 [22:20] and 40 [22:21] so in 3d there is three render types [22:21] Coverflow [22:21] and the 2 that are in that example [22:21] but if you make a new rendering type then you can call tha t [22:22] I do not think that you can call coverflow though because they took it out of 3d because it is not ready [22:25] at anyrate if you want to just make a lens that works. Questions that I would ask myself is where am I getting my data from ? how do I want to render it to screen. what is the effects that I want to put on it. how can I take a data point and read from it in python so that dee knows what is going on ? [22:25] things like that [22:26] like if I am using mythtv I am going to query the backend If I am using youtube I am going to query youtube api [22:26] what Am I going to pass to unity as iconhint mimetype uri name [22:27] bobweaver: yeah, first I should get more familiar with how lenses work. But if tgm4883 has the scope portion written I could just use that as backend and only write a simple lens right? [22:27] well that all depends on what it is that you are using [22:27] data source that is ^^ [22:27] or are those scopes using mythtv as backend? I'm not very familiar with mythTV, but that would probably make the lens rather big :P [22:27] if mythtv then yes you can use his api [22:28] It all depends on where you want to get your data from [22:28] * bobweaver knows nothing at all about dutch tv [22:29] the picture from the link you posted is Unity 2d [22:30] it reads xml files that are hard coded at this point [22:30] the file is called Epg.qml it is under the dash in the ubuntu tv mockup code. I took it out of my stuff for now [22:31] I use unity 2d with qml webview to just render a mythweb [22:32] bobweaver: it looks like mythtv has a bunch of grabbers for Dutch television, so I guess I'll use one of those [22:32] http://wiki.mythtv.nl/index.php/Grabbers [22:33] http://imagebin.org/242788 [22:34] I just change from tv to desktop to tablet with this [22:35] http://imagebin.org/242789 [22:37] thats handy [22:38] yes it is [22:38] I can change any glib settings that there is from there [22:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFSgaX5E0 [22:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBr55htroA [22:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb8s7pSBu30 [22:40] Sorry about the sound I do not have the money for a good mic [22:40] * bobweaver is super poor :) [22:41] Thanks for your time bobweaver, you've given me a lot to think about. I'll go read some more and try to get a simple lens to work, and I'll contact you or tgm when I've gotten started [22:42] Cool have fun with that [22:42] trijntje, you may also look to people like davidcalle and mhall119 mhall119 knows alot about lens also [22:43] I think he wrote the guide on wiki.ubuntu.com but I could be wrong about tha t [22:43] that * [22:43] trijntje, thanks for looking at my videos :) even though I am american :P [22:44] tgm4883, how do I turn down vol in myth just the vol that the player is using [22:44] ? [22:44] bobweaver: not everybody speaks English, so we can't all use the same system. Some of us need localised apps ;) [22:45] See you later, have a nice evening! [22:45] that is why there is things like u2d.tr("text goes here to translate ") [22:45] but it was nice to meet you