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alleeyofel: libkscreen depends on qjson >= 0.8.0.  That's why it fails on qantal.  r copied from kubuntu/ppa to experimental and the quantal build restarted01:02
allees/ r / r needs to be /01:03
kubotuallee meant: "yofel: libkscreen depends on qjson >= 0.8.0.  That's why it fails on qantal.  r needs to be copied from kubuntu/ppa to experimental and the quantal build restarted"01:03
yofeldone01:04
alleethx01:17
ronnoc_anyone else run into an issue with a recent update in Raring that gives a "AMD Unsupported Hardware" watermark after a recent update?05:02
ronnoc_I must not be alone: bug 109856105:15
ubottubug 1098561 in fglrx-installer-updates (Ubuntu) "unsupported hardware overlay after upgrade to raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109856105:15
RiddellRC 3 tagging on thursday09:57
* Riddell adds to diary09:57
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ScottKRiddell: Alpha 2 is moved, so it should line up for 4.10.0 now.12:23
Riddelllovely, thanks ScottK 12:24
RiddellScottK: kio-mtp and libwlocate in New should you be in a New mood12:28
Riddellyay no kde packages on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html13:05
BluesKajHiyas all13:22
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RiddellScottK: I just noticed http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/raring/alpha-1/14:32
Riddellso uec also does alpha releases I guess14:32
ScottKInteresting.14:32
ScottKThat was sort of not mentioned.14:32
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yofelshadeslayer: re tomahawk, you should be able to just copy the PPA stuff with a clean changelog and maybe a fix here and there14:54
shadeslayerand copyright stuff14:55
shadeslayeryour packaging has no proper copyright iirc14:55
yofeloh yeah, was too lazy for that14:55
shadeslayer:P14:55
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afiestasare virtuoso pacakges build/link with -g ?15:39
afiestasshadeslayer:  ? :p15:39
shadeslayeryou mean with debug symbols?15:39
afiestasshadeslayer: yes15:40
shadeslayeriirc no, but you could enable dbgsym to get some dbg packages I guess15:41
shadeslayerI see libvirtodbc0-dbgsym15:41
shadeslayerbut that's only for ODBC libs I'm afraid15:42
shadeslayerI also remember being poked about this earlier, and asked around why we didn't build with dbg symbols, but I can't recall the reason behind it15:43
shadeslayeroh15:43
shadeslayerafiestas: we do we do!15:44
shadeslayer"cd . &&   CFLAGS="-g -O2 -fstack-protector ...."15:44
Riddellshadeslayer: doesn't do much good if the symbols aren't extracted but15:45
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah15:45
shadeslayerI'm not completely sure how the dbgsym stuff works15:45
afiestasshadeslayer: from where do I get the symbols?15:46
afiestasor Riddell :p15:46
shadeslayerafiestas: There's no separate -dbg package I'm afraid15:46
afiestasokz15:47
shadeslayerhuh15:47
shadeslayerafiestas: there should be a -dbgsym package though15:47
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/646616/15:47
afiestasshadeslayer: where?15:47
shadeslayer!dbgsym15:47
ubottudbgsym is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash15:47
afiestasI hate when you send me to a wiki page15:48
shadeslayerafiestas: follow " If there is no -dbg package:"15:48
afiestaswith bazilion lines of text15:48
shadeslayerI'm still trying to figure out where the -dbgsym package is15:49
afiestasshadeslayer: should I go ahead with the instructions?15:49
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apacheloggermhhh15:50
apacheloggerhttp://wiki.debian.org/AutomaticDebugPackages15:50
shadeslayerafiestas: won't do you any good .... I can't see a -dbgsym package for it15:50
Riddellthere's no -dbgsym15:50
afiestasoks15:50
afiestasnext time then15:50
shadeslayerk15:50
shadeslayerthough that's the one package I'm aware of that intentionally has no -dbg package15:51
shadeslayerbuild id's looks really cool15:52
apacheloggerI think I have seen ddebs somewhere on launchpad, so there is support for it I suppose 15:52
apacheloggernot sure if that has been widely discussed in ubuntu though15:53
shadeslayeryes, you have to enable them manually15:53
apacheloggerwhy don't we do that? :P15:53
shadeslayerdunno15:53
yofelSpace I guess15:57
yofeland it would mostly duplicate our debug symbols15:58
shadeslayerwtff15:58
shadeslayerhttp://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/v/virtuoso-opensource/15:58
shadeslayerthat has the packages15:58
shadeslayerbut apt says it knows nothing about them15:58
yofelshadeslayer: yeah, for libvirtodbc015:58
yofelthat's all15:58
shadeslayerhmm15:59
shadeslayerapparently they got lost after 6.1.0 ?15:59
yofelshadeslayer: not really, that package is transitional16:00
shadeslayerOh .. ok16:01
shadeslayeryofel: have a look at the build log though, seems to me a dbgsym packages should have been created16:03
shadeslayers/a/the/16:05
kubotushadeslayer meant: "yofel: htheve a look at the build log though, seems to me a dbgsym packages should have been created"16:05
yofeldh_strip -pvirtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin  16:05
yofeldh_strip debug symbol extraction: all non-arch-all packages for this build platform amd64: virtuoso-opensource-6.1 virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin libvirtodbc0 libvirtuoso5.5-cil 16:05
yofeldh_strip debug symbol extraction: packages to act on: virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin 16:05
yofeldh_strip debug symbol extraction: ignored packages: 16:05
yofelvirtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin is already stripped, ignoring16:05
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shadeslayerI think I'll shut up now16:06
yofelit ignores everything except libvirtodbc0 16:07
yofelthe buildsystem completely ignores -g16:10
apacheloggerafiestas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kamoso/+bug/109915416:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 1099154 in kamoso (Ubuntu) "webcam keeps active after kamaso is already closed" [Undecided,New]16:11
yofelhm, no16:11
afiestasapachelogger: terminal output perhaps?16:12
apacheloggerplease ask for it16:12
apachelogger:P16:12
* apachelogger goes needs to get dinner while tomahawk builds hog his machine16:12
apacheloggerlanguage fail16:13
apacheloggeranywho, afk16:13
yofellol16:13
Riddellapachelogger: tomahawk getting packages at last?16:14
Riddellmeh, I can't get the symbols file in libqaccessibilityclient to work on all arches, I'll just make it arch specific unless anyone wants to see what I'm missing16:15
* yofel gives it a try16:20
Riddellyofel: I've got ec2s set up if it's useful16:21
RiddellI added --with kde which I'd forgot16:21
Riddellbut it's still different on i386vs amd6416:22
yofelmy server should be fast enough, doesn't look like it'll be a long build16:23
Riddellno it's not16:23
yofellooks to me like it's missing a few {size_t} substs16:26
* yofel retries16:26
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yofelRiddell: uploaded again, was missing a symbols file that was confirmed on both archs + --with pkgkde_symbolshelper it seems16:34
yofelhm, forgot to add --with kde. Does it need it?16:34
Riddellhmm I thought --with kde included pkgkde_symbolshelper16:43
RiddellI guess not, neurons still reconnecting16:44
Riddellthanks yofel!16:44
yofelyep, built now16:44
yofelshadeslayer: adding --with-debug to virtuoso results in:16:45
yofel../libvirtodbc0-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb16:45
yofel../virtuoso-opensource-6.1-common-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb16:45
yofel../virtuoso-opensource-6.1-bin-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb 16:45
yofel ../virtuoso-opensource-6.1-dbgsym_6.1.6+repack-0ubuntu1_amd64.ddeb16:45
yofelso maybe that wouldn't be a bad idea16:45
* Riddell awards yofel elite packager of the day award16:45
yofelthanks :P16:45
mikhasQuintasan_, http://lists.maliit.org/pipermail/maliit-announce-maliit.org/2013-January/000022.html16:46
Riddellooh nice mikhas 16:47
yofel\o/16:48
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RiddellScottK: do I want to use libboost1.49-dev or libboost1.50-dev?17:00
ScottKRiddell: 4917:00
* ScottK double checks17:00
Riddellbut but it's 0.01 old!17:01
mikhasRiddell, that release took much longer than expected … the road to Maliit 1.0 remains difficult.17:01
RiddellQuintasan_: are you able to package that or will you need someone else to do it?17:02
yofelRiddell: libboost-dev poins to 1.49. Unless that changes you'll get conflicts with 1.50 *somewhere*17:11
* yofel adds a missing t17:11
shadeslayeryofel: sure, but why isn't it there to begin with?17:12
xnoxdefault is 1.49, you can use 1.50 if you need to. but we decided not to do boost1.50 transition ahead/without debian in raring.17:12
yofeldunno, whoever packaged it didn't think he would have to manually enable debugging symbols?17:12
yofeland since there's no -dbg package it probably wasn't checked either17:13
shadeslayermmm17:15
shadeslayeryofel: let's enable it then17:15
shadeslayerI don't see anything in debian that says they had it and removed it on purpose17:15
ScottKYeah.  1.49.17:17
yofelme neither, changelog doesn't mention debuggin symbols at all17:17
yofelshadeslayer: I'll upload with symbols then, easy to revert if it does something weird17:18
shadeslayerrighto17:18
shadeslayeryofel: and symbols?17:18
yofeler17:18
yofeldebug17:18
shadeslayer:P17:18
shadeslayerand do you plan on doing a separate -dbg package17:18
shadeslayeror just let dbgsym do the job17:18
yofelI think we can live with dbgsym's for now17:19
shadeslayercool :_)17:19
shadeslayerlololol 17:21
shadeslayerUnrecognized character \x10 at /home/buildd/.sbuildrc line 1.17:21
yofelo.O17:22
yofelRiddell: could you please upload knavalbattle ubuntu3? It's not in the packageset yet18:55
Riddelllet me see19:00
Riddellmm, well spotted19:02
yofelmore like apt told me :P19:02
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ScottKAnyone know of a reason not to release 4.9.4 to quantal-updates?20:13
shadeslayernot really20:17
* shadeslayer checks if transmission was approved20:18
shadeslayernope, still there20:19
shadeslayerScottK: ^20:19
ScottKOK.20:28
ScottKNot right now, but maybe in a bit.20:29
shadeslayersure20:29
shadeslayernot a big issue :020:29
shadeslayer:)20:29
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yofelI don't know of any regressions in 4.9.4 other than the ones we fixed... 20:30
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shadeslayerafiestas: btw dbg symbols now available for virtuoso, you'll need to enable the dbgsym repos22:09
jessie_Has anyone packaged the new color management stuff?22:11
shadeslayercolord?22:12
snele_shadeslayer: thank you for backporting 4.10 rc2 to precise. do you plan to backport 4.10.x series (or atleast last 4.10.5 bugfix release)?22:13
shadeslayeryep22:13
afiestasshadeslayer: thanks !22:13
shadeslayerafiestas: <322:13
shadeslayerRiddell: yofel https://dev.launchpad.net/CommunityARMBuilds22:40
yofelYour build takes 4hrs or less to build - I think kdelibs already violates that22:42
yofelunless you need to meed only one of those22:42
yofel*meet22:42
shadeslayerwell ... I was thinking more along the lines of Plasma Active22:42
shadeslayerbecause we can get PA builds up quickly22:43
shadeslayerfor Nexus 7 testing and what not22:43
yofelyeah, as long as kdelibs is fine with less than 10 builds a week, wohooo \o/22:43
shadeslayerif we have to upload kde4libs then we should just test build on the ARM farm and upload to the archive22:43
shadeslayeryofel: apparently they just virtualize armhf ontop of i386 now :D22:59
yofelI'll be happy if they tell me how they do that23:00
shadeslayerhaha23:00
shadeslayer#launchpad has some info23:00
shadeslayerwas just discussing it with them :)23:00
yofelif that's the same setup that the armhf pbuilder guide uses, then I'll be interested to see how kdelibs does there23:02
yofelI never got it to build in qemu-user-static23:02
shadeslayerdunno23:03
yofelshadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-linaro/+bug/1077116 was what I got23:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 1077116 in qemu-linaro (Ubuntu) "automoc4 segfaults when building in an armhf pbuilder on an amd64 host" [Undecided,New]23:05
yofelhaven't tried it on i386...23:05
shadeslayeryou ran automoc on the Nexus 7 @_@23:06
yofelyeah? 23:06
yofelit's not different from any other armhf hardware once you have ubuntu on it23:07
yofelthe CPU is even reasonably fas23:07
yofelt23:07

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