[00:18] sim590: the SD card slot on tf101 keyboard is just broken in my experience :-( [02:26] Anyone use multirom for nexus7? === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun === simon_ is now known as sim590 [05:30] Hello === popey_ is now known as popey === XorA is now known as XorA|gone [06:11] Anyone arpund [06:30] Need team mates [07:28] can I install ubuntu for arm in an Android Smartphones like Motorola Defy+?? [09:48] Hey guys, need some help patching a kernel === doko_ is now known as doko [10:10] Hello doko [10:11] ogra_: do you have an overview which gstreamer components I need for an OMAP4 based device? I am currently trying to head into the state of upstream support for it but information in the various places is a bit confusing [10:30] hello janimo [10:58] RussellAlan, hello [10:59] how is it going janimo [11:01] RussellAlan, fine thanks. You pinged a while ago? [11:01] was just saying hello =D [11:03] RussellAlan, fair enough === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun [12:23] can someone upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/1061609 please. It's a trivial patch stopping util-linux from building for arm [12:23] Launchpad bug 1061609 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "arm64/aarch64 support for util-linux" [Undecided,New] [12:23] (arm64) [12:24] morphis, nope, TI used maintain the gstreamer bits in their PPA, not sure what happens to this now that OMAP is dead [12:37] wookey: maybe better ask on #ubuntu-devel [12:38] wookey: please stop making patches to update config.guess|sub and always introduce dh_autoreconf helper. On one package already, I got lintian warning that config.guess|sub is too old from one of your "manual" updates =) [12:38] wookey: I am happy to sponsor that, but I will change it to use dh_autoreconf [12:39] wookey: also you should subscribe ubuntu-sponsors team instead of pinging people =) [12:40] then your patch gets into the queue for sponsorship: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ [13:05] and then you can hope that one day it will land [13:05] hrw: /me is patch-piloting tomorrow and I tend to prefer build/cross-build fixes & core packages =) [13:06] OMG!?!?! OMAP is dead?!?!?! [13:06] xnox: for current dev there is always hope. sru == abandon any hope unless you have cve for it [13:07] so whats this ubuntu arm bussiness? [13:09] mint_: it's just a channel specific to armhf port of ubuntu (and armel in the past) [13:10] is it going to be like a full linus OS, or more like an anroid thingy [13:10] mint_: you ask about 'ubuntu phone' or 'ubuntu on arm'? [13:11] isnt arm for the phone [13:11] I saw x86 phone last week [13:11] and mips phone month earlier [13:11] mint_: no, #ubuntu-arm is for the whole ubuntu: dev boards, servers, desktops, netbooks. E.g. ac100, pandaboard, etc. [13:11] mint_: you may want #ubuntu-phone [13:11] oh my bad [13:12] mint_: if you want to know about phone see #ubuntu-phone, for ubuntu on android (a separate project) #ubuntu-android, there is also [13:12] #ubuntu-nexus for ubuntu core on nexus7 tablet. [13:12] k ty === mint_ is now known as _DADDY9 === _DADDY9 is now known as _DADDY [13:29] ogra_: did something change in the image? I am not able to reproduce bug 1093050 with today's daily. [13:29] Launchpad bug 1093050 in ubuntu-nexus7 "OnBoard doesn't work on text boxes during initial setup" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1093050 [13:29] Or is it racy? [13:30] * xnox goes to find the proper bug. [13:37] <_DADDY> just asking about different option besides unity, everytime i try to get a gnome shell going, unity bugs it, do i have to completely remove unity first? [13:52] speaking of sponsoring and stuff like that, who would be the best person to talk to in regards to getting a kernel sponsored and in universe [13:56] xnox, i think itrs a race, it doesnt show up on subsequent runs [13:56] ogra_: clean flash, clean first boot, wait for ubiquity, tap hostname, onboard pops up and I fill in the hostname just fine and finish the configure. [13:56] =( [13:57] move on, sometimes it needs until the wlan setup [13:57] hmm.. [13:57] * xnox is testing/uploading udev rules to flash nexus7 without sudo & then usb-creator work. [13:58] yay [14:04] xnox, hmm, bug 1099122 smells like it could be related, and carla mentions that it also happened once on amd64 [14:04] Launchpad bug 1099122 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "unable to enter timezone city in input field during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099122 [14:04] so i would even go that far to suspect the race is there and not even arch specific [14:05] bug 1099123 too [14:05] Launchpad bug 1099123 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "keyboard detection does not work during ARM image install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099123 [14:08] xnox: OK. noted. Packages don't always want to use dh_autoreconf, but I agree it's a better plan. [14:09] Packagers [14:09] wookey: i mean, if debian doesn't accept that change that's fine. But dh_autoreconf is a much simplier "patch" to maintain. [14:09] Right [14:09] Will do henceforth [14:09] =) [14:10] autoconf patches are an abomination. I've had hours of fun with libffi [14:13] and autoreconf does also gnu-configize --force so you have both [14:22] Hello, i am using ubuntu 12.04.1 often via ssh. Few days ago i noticed that on logon it doesn't show anymore last login details. Searching i discover the command "last", but it says that there is no log file. [14:22] ...so i created it and after this it worked fine, but after the reboot the file has been deleted....i don'tunderstand because, do u have an explanation?? Thanks [14:24] somebody noticed this problem before? [14:26] uragano2, are you sure its not a diskspce problem ? [14:26] *space [14:27] ogra_: 77GB free [14:27] and the rootfs is mounted rw, no errors in dmesg etc ? [14:31] ogra_: dmseg seems clean, should i check for something of particular? rootfs is mounted rw [14:31] no, i was just going through the obvious bits :) === albert is now known as Guest7248 [14:31] sounds like its worth a bug report then === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:34] i am worried that somebody break my system :S [14:34] checl /var/log/auth.log :) [14:34] *check even [14:34] sshd logs all logins there by default [14:34] it starts from last reboot [14:34] all logs start from last reboot [14:35] not the .0 or .*.gz ones [14:36] nope [14:40] ogra_: the udev snippet you pasted a while ago w.r.t. setting udev-acl doesn't make the device writtable =( [14:40] xnox, weird, works here [14:41] ogra_: do you have it named specially or did you just patch the existing udev-acl rules file? [14:41] i'm actually trying to find it, one sec [14:42] hmpf [14:42] i dont seem to have it anymore [14:42] it should have something like: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="18d1", ATTR{idProduct}=="4e40" [14:43] yeap. and +TAG="udev-acl" or explicit test and call for udev-acl binary. [14:43] hmmm... === Guest7248 is now known as Phryq [14:44] not sure, might need a reboot to make udevbd pick it up [14:47] xnox, is the above a typo ? [14:47] TAG+="udev-acl" would be right [14:47] not +TAG="udev-acl" [14:47] yeah typo on IRC [14:47] k [14:47] very weird [14:48] the acl stuff onyl works under consolekit sessions ... you rant logged in via ssh or some such ? [14:48] s/rant/arent [14:49] ogra_: win =) [14:50] :) [14:50] ogra_: typo s/04e40/4e40/ [14:50] heh [14:50] on the other hand I learned how to debug udev logs (and realise that nothing is working) and build debug build of android tools =) [14:51] heh [14:54] ogra_: are u using Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-1412-omap4 armv7l)? [14:55] uragano2, not arm, no, my pandas are either 12.10 or raring [14:58] so i have a strange problem. i installed 12.10 on my beaglebone which is powered by a solar panel and battery. i under estimated the needed batteries and the bone shutdown unexpectedly. now via usb all i see is a uboot prompt. is there a way to reload the boot loader without writing a whole new image? [15:13] jpastore, better ask in #beagle, wo dont have any images for the bone in ubuntu [15:14] ogra_, is my only own option writing a whole new disk image? i mounted the sd card in my laptop and it is accessible. i'm backing up my work...can i get a list of installed packages from the file system? [15:15] sorry, no idea, i have never seen or touched a beaglebone [15:15] ogra_: i think that the bug is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1019338 [15:15] Launchpad bug 1019338 in Ubuntu "ami-4438b474 lacks /var/log/{btmp,wtmp,lastlog}" [Low,Fix released] [15:16] unlikely, it is about cloud images [15:16] (which uses a completely own build and boot infrastructure) [15:17] ogra_, not needed. i am not interested in cloud9 right now. i installed ubuntu-arm 12.10 on the beaglebone and everything was fine until this happened. is there a way extrapolate a list of installed packages by looking at the filesystem? cache of debs or something? [15:18] uff...i have no idea why i lost my logs, i'll make a new installation. Thanks anyway for your help! [15:18] jpastore, what os is your host machine running ? [15:19] ogra_, also ubuntu [15:19] (where you mount the SD) [15:19] k [15:19] install quemu-user-static [15:19] then copy the qemu-arm-static from /usr/bin to /usr/bin on the SD [15:19] just updated this laptop to 12.10 and as always it's a process that requires punishment. [15:19] when you now *manually* mount the SD, you can chroot into the filesystem [15:20] (and do all operations as if you were under an arm system) [15:21] ok let me look up what quemu is =) [15:21] qemu (sorry, typo) [15:22] qemu ususally is used for VMs ... but the -user variant, together with a setup for the binfmt modules can give you native arm support on x86 without a VM [15:23] ubuntu has that setup by default with the qemu-user-static package so you can chroot into any arm filesystem and just use it [15:23] np. still trying to figure it out =) so i can run this and emulate the arm chip and access the file system as if it was booted and use apt-get to get a list of packages? [15:23] right [15:24] ok package installed. since I've copied this over, i'm running from /usr/bin initially, it just needs access to the bin after i chroot? [15:26] right [15:26] marvin24: ping [15:26] the kernel recognizes the binaries you execute as arm ones and wraps them in qemu execution calls [15:26] marvin24: which ppa are you referring to https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/219088 [15:40] ogra_, thanks got local apt-get running...this is pretty kewl. i didn't know you could do this. [15:40] :) [15:41] note that if you actually install or remove packages you should make soure to have /proc mounted inside the chroot (and dont forget to unmount it when laving it) [15:47] czajkowski: sorry, I meant all packages for this team [15:47] https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/u-boot [15:47] ogra_: android-tools with udev rules uploaded. [15:47] czajkowski: and I need to create a kernel ppa also [15:47] * ogra_ hugs xnox [15:48] marvin24, why do you want one PPA per package ? [15:48] ogra_: well =) now I can do usb-creator bits with format v1.0 [15:48] marvin24, just take over the ac100 enablement one asnd delete the others [15:48] ogra_: yes, is this wrong? [15:48] ogra_, dude. this is the second time you've help. can i send you a cup of coffee or something. i really appreciate you taking the time to help me. good people on IRC are way to under appreciated [15:48] many sources.list entries to add for testers [15:49] jpastore, if we have an UDS near your place you can pay me a beer, beyond that my support is for free ;) [15:49] UDS? [15:49] marvin24, i would just go with one PPA [15:49] ah, ok [15:50] marvin24: done for that one, if you create another ppa can you please jsut open a new question [15:50] thanks [15:50] jpastore, http://summit.ubuntu.com/ ... where we all meet in person [15:50] I'm in Lima Peru. =) [15:50] czajkowski: https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/ppa [15:50] oh that would rock if they have one here [15:50] I'm going to delete the other ones as ogra suggested [15:50] oh, we havent had any UDSes in south america yet [15:50] marvin24: done [15:51] czajkowski: thanks a lot! [15:51] (next one is near san francisco i heard) [15:56] oh i have family there. give me a good reason to fly up. === prpplague^2 is now known as prpplague === XorA|gone is now known as XorA [22:11] I talked about usb-ethernet on the nexus7 here a day or so ago... I now tried it and got it to work very easily: I recompiled the ubuntu kernel with CONFIG_USB_CDC_COMPOSITE and without CONFIG_USB_G_SERIAL, added a couple of lines to /etc/network/interfaces (I guess using NetworkManager would work too) and apt-get install openssh-server and that was it [22:11] now the usb-serial console works just as before and I have an additional usb0 Ethernet device so I can ssh to the nexus7 through usb (and do package installs through usb etc.) :) [22:13] (I used a static IP address without a default route, so I can leave it up all the time, as I'm used to doing on my openmoko gta02, but I guess you could use dhcp etc. via the networkmanager ui just as well... I think it's just a normal wired interface as far as NM is concerned) [22:17] kulve: thanks for the info you gave me a day or so ago, read the above ^^^ if you're interested... [22:22] hmm, maybe you folks at ubuntu could consider making CONFIG_USB_CDC_COMPOSITE the default for the nexus7 kernel, since it only adds features to CONFIG_USB_G_SERIAL? or maybe compile all of the usb gadget drivers as modules and load g_serial on boot, so the users could switch gadgets without a kernel recompile? [22:37] OK, back for some grueling... No luck so far getting Ubuntu native on the Toshiba Thrive. [22:39] Tried AC100, Asus Transformer, Advent Vega, Motorola Xoom, even modified Thrive source; either my display shuts off, or it gets stuck at the Fastboot "Loading" screen. [22:41] I did try to do the chroot method, but still ended up with no display :( [22:46] AmEv: what version of the kernel is that [22:46] Native? 2.6.39. [22:46] ok hmm [22:46] thrive is tegra 2 yeah? [22:47] Yep. [22:47] although 2.6.39 AFAIK wasn't affected by the issue I am thinking of [22:48] I know someone was trying to port a 3.* kernel over, but had to leave. [22:49] Whoops, wrong button... [22:50] I know I do have a working rootfs on an SD card... [22:54] Anyway, lilstevie, thanks for coming back again. I remember you giving advice a few days ago. [22:54] I'll be here with my Thrive, trying things out. [22:54] heh [22:54] well I don't know, you could maybe check your .config [22:55] Yeah, the first thing I did was enable Framebuffer Console and VT. Nope... [23:39] Hello! [23:40] Guess what I did? [23:41] I put ubuntu on a UG802 [23:41] like this : http://tinypic.com/r/34pj47d/6 [23:41] it's a video of it booting [23:42] sorry if you cannot see it, it's that fast [23:42] Ehh, I got disconnected for a sec... [23:45] Anyway, any thoughts as to bootup problems? [23:45] AmEv_, One. as in I cannot install OPENGL and I need it [23:45] well I can installit* [23:45] it's just I cannot find it === AmEv_ is now known as AmEv [23:46] wbf: 1) ARM devices do not have OpenGL we have OpenGLES [23:46] Well, I'm having bootup problems on my Thrive... [23:46] second of all you need to see if there are drivers for the GPU [23:46] When I made my own initfs, I didn't have any errors on the final one... [23:47] lilstevie, I already installed the driver, but do you know of any good linux games for ARM? [23:47] Should I create a Launchpad bug? [23:48] AmEv: only if you can determine that ubuntu is the problem :p [23:48] cause it is more than likely your kernel [23:48] wbf: you are kidding right? [23:48] :p [23:48] OK. [23:49] lilstevie, Okay sorry about that, I guess I need to go to offtopic.. [23:49] wbf: not my point [23:49] Strange that known-working Tegra 2 kernels aren't working on my device.... [23:49] lilstevie, so there's no games for arm linux? [23:49] wbf: there are not many games available really, and even less support openGLES [23:50] AmEv: what did you expect, you cannot just take another devices kernel and expect it to work [23:50] Didn't think so. Not like x86 where there's a universal boot disk.... [23:51] lilstevie, well what BETA games are there? [23:52] I wonder: What's the best kernel (cross-)compiler for the Tegra 2 devices? === wbf is now known as initramfshelpwit === initramfshelpwit is now known as UG802help