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| melodie | hello | 17:52 |
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| melodie | I have a question about the Ubiquity installer, is there someone available ? It's about how the background is setup (inside the window) | 17:53 |
| cjwatson | ubiquity doesn't care about that itself; it's up to the GTK theme or the window manager or whatever. I'm afraid I have no idea how it works. You need somebody who knows about the desktop environment / window manager / toolkit / whatever that you're using. | 17:54 |
| melodie | hi cjwatson | 17:54 |
| ogra_ | hwat do you mean by "inside the window" | 17:55 |
| melodie | I have setup an Ubuntu Openbox using the same gtk themes are Lubuntu does, and tried different window themes | 17:55 |
| cjwatson | I can't help you further. | 17:55 |
| melodie | hi ogra_ I mean inside the ubiquity installer window. I have a pic on the web I show the link | 17:55 |
| melodie | I just updated firefox, it's coming... | 17:56 |
| cjwatson | And from what I remember about the picture you showed before it's not something that any installer code is responsible for. | 17:56 |
| ogra_ | the content comes from the $flavour/ubiquity/slideshow packages | 17:56 |
| ogra_ | bah | 17:56 |
| cjwatson | No, this is something different | 17:56 |
| melodie | this is what I get : http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/ubiquity-frontend-gtk-look.png | 17:56 |
| ogra_ | $flavour-ubiquity-slideshow | 17:56 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: no | 17:57 |
| ogra_ | k | 17:57 |
| cjwatson | this is not about the slideshow | 17:57 |
| melodie | I had tried to install the lubuntu slideshow, this part was still black | 17:57 |
| melodie | right cjwatson | 17:57 |
| cjwatson | but it's also not about any installer code, *unless* people who know about openbox say that ubiquity-dm needs to run some special openbox-specific command to set up an openbox-using session correctly | 17:58 |
| cjwatson | ubiquity-dm sets up a session using entirely its own code, so it's possible it's missing something | 17:58 |
| ogra_ | the pic simply looks like a theme or theme engine is missing | 17:58 |
| cjwatson | it's bin/ubiquity-dm in the ubiquity source package - compare that with the openbox session setup | 17:58 |
| melodie | which part of the openbox session setup ? | 17:59 |
| cjwatson | I have no idea | 17:59 |
| melodie | ogra_, I have all the same themes gtk2 gtk3 and engines as Lubuntu does, I a sure because I added some after I compared the filesystem.manifest files | 17:59 |
| cjwatson | This is the responsibility of people porting ubiquity-dm to a new desktop environment to figure out - i.e. you :) | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | Before you look at ubiquity-dm, though, check that a normal openbox session started from the same live CD (or whatever) works | 18:00 |
| melodie | I will try to look into the openbox configuration files | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | If it does then it's reasonable to conclude that ubiquity-dm is missing something | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | openbox looks fine in the screenshot though | 18:01 |
| melodie | cjwatson, it does, I have done about 20 isos which I tested at home so far and a few are online for testing | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | you have a proper windowframe and theme | 18:01 |
| melodie | ogra_, right | 18:01 |
| ogra_ | the content is gtk | 18:01 |
| melodie | here is how the desktop looks | 18:01 |
| melodie | http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/BoxBuntu.png | 18:01 |
| melodie | and here is one with htop: http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/BoxBuntu-ressources.png | 18:02 |
| cjwatson | We don't run the standard Xsession scripts or anything | 18:02 |
| cjwatson | htop> not relevant | 18:02 |
| melodie | it's just a window... the only one online atm | 18:02 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, it just doesn't tell us anything important for this purpose, so skip it :) | 18:03 |
| ogra_ | you likely need to have some kind of gtkrc (not sure what gtk3 usues nowadays to do such native stuff) | 18:03 |
| melodie | I have compared ubiquity-dm files from this spin I did with the one from Madbox, also built on Ubuntu, but found no difference | 18:03 |
| cjwatson | Um | 18:03 |
| cjwatson | I think you're missing the point | 18:03 |
| melodie | however I didn't compare his openbox setup files yet | 18:03 |
| cjwatson | ubiquity-dm reimplements all the xsession (etc.) stuff | 18:03 |
| cjwatson | if your desktop needs something from that to set up its theme properly, that needs to be reimplemented in ubiquity-dm | 18:04 |
| melodie | ogra_, there is a .gtkrc-2.0 file in it | 18:04 |
| cjwatson | So you need to understand your desktop environment startup sequence in detail in order to make sure that ubiquity-dm's setup code is sufficient | 18:04 |
| melodie | cjwatson, if you were right then Madbox's ubiquity-dm would be different than mine, but it's not | 18:04 |
| melodie | and Madbox has a normal ubiquity window | 18:05 |
| cjwatson | Well, that's the only special thing that the installer does for this | 18:05 |
| melodie | cjwatson, ok I'll compare the Openbox setup from Madbox with mine | 18:05 |
| cjwatson | But if you're not sure then you should compare all the files from all the ubiquity packages, not just ubiquity-dm | 18:05 |
| melodie | this is something I have not dug yet, so why not. | 18:05 |
| melodie | I have a buddy who is keen with python who started to dig the ubiquity files so I hope he can do that | 18:06 |
| melodie | ok, I'll dig openbox startup files, thanks ! | 18:07 |
| cjwatson | Well, you don't need to dig into them in detail; just get the file lists and diff | 18:07 |
| melodie | yes, sure | 18:08 |
| melodie | I need to look if some are in the home user directory and also the ones at /etc/xdg/openbox, and that should be it. I'll check what is in the login manager too | 18:09 |
| melodie | I have another question, while my vbox machines start and restart : is there somewhere at Ubuntu a doc on how to setup isolinux to tweak the theme for Ubuntu boxes ? | 18:27 |
| melodie | ie: I have no idea how to produce the init file which contains code for one part of the appearance | 18:27 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Remind me of the magic required to jam a test kernel into a d-i build? | 19:07 |
| melodie | I'll bbl | 19:33 |
| melodie | thanks for all, will try to solve my issue | 19:33 |
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