=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [02:28] Hi [02:30] hi mesquka [02:30] \o/ you're still here [02:30] I always see your message right after you've left the channel [02:34] lol :) [04:13] :D === popey_ is now known as popey === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:20] geez, it won't be released until next year if that? === sushubin_ is now known as sushubin [09:33] * Tak blink [09:35] Preliminary ROM's could be expected in late Febuary [09:37] ROM's what? ;) [09:38] how about pre-preliminary roms :D [09:39] or a very very short "building from sources" [09:39] or "getting started with porting to your phone" [09:40] pretty much [11:59] is ubuntu-phohe will contain regular ARM version of linux where one can get any open source software compilled and run and no need to have market as for android phones ? [12:03] no reason why not [12:38] so ubuntu hinted at the 14th? did anything happen? [12:39] 14th? [12:43] of Feb? [12:43] ahh nevermind, i was reading a forum last night and people were trying to solve some riddle shuttleworth gave, they had it come down to a date, 14th january. but i have just noticed that 14.14 is the version number of ubuntu-phone so im assuming that has something to do with it [12:44] wouldnt it be somethign like 13.04? [12:45] http://www.extremetech.com/computing/102599-ubuntu-14-04-will-be-a-smartphone-and-tablet-os-so-what [12:45] i had read that, but noticed its from 2011. im trying to hunt down the forum post and riddle... [12:47] internets full of rumors and lies anyway [12:51] damian_^: they dont expect a release of a handset till early next year [12:51] but the first images and source will fall in Feb [12:52] oh so they will be releasing their own handset or expect other manufacturers to use it next year? [12:52] and yeah, i own the nexus, patiently waiting :) [12:52] deals with manufacturers [12:52] other OEMs [12:52] that's why they announced now [12:53] to cast their net at CES [12:53] and hopefully strike a deal somewhere along the line [12:53] i would think they will get a deal pretty quickly [12:53] so I doubt they will call anything a full release until the handset comes to market [12:54] hourd: hopefully [12:54] awesome, it really looks like an ios killer, hope it is recieved well :) android is great and all but being a dev myself i know first hand the troubles with using a virtual machine on low powered hardware.. [12:55] and ios being so closed... nightmares... i gave up developing for it [12:55] Yeah. And one thing particularly important to me: security. [12:55] dev'ing should be a lot easier [12:55] and you can start now [12:55] I hope the ubuntu phone will have decent security for apps [12:55] test on your Ubuntu PC OS [12:56] The android way has its benefits (running each app in a separate sandbox) but the apps tend to ask for ridiculous permissions [12:57] to be fair, there have not been many stories of large apps abusing their permisions [12:58] tbh deving for me is about money, its my job, and my passion dont get me wrong, but it pays well and ive made a living from it and just dont have the time to support ubuntu until it is financially feasable... [12:58] hehe yeah, live wallpapers requesting to send sms's and make calls, [12:59] ubuntubhoy: but why the hell does e.g. angry birds want permissions to read my phone calls and have network access -> potentially sending my phone logs to Rovio for what reason exactly [12:59] (and yes i know im not very open source spirited but i dont have hours to spend coding for free...) [13:00] although given the posix compliances and etc, it seems dead easy to port between ios and ubuntu-phone [13:01] hah [13:01] lol, i bet i just pissed off a lot of people [13:03] Walther: I am not saying it is right, just that of the major apps from trusted backgrounds there has been very little reports of abuse [13:04] i just installed angry birds, all is asks for is access to internet, and i assume thats for ads and purchases. didnt ask to read call logs or anything [13:04] I think it was a general example rather than exact [13:05] there's no such thing as a general example [13:05] it's either an example or it isn't [13:05] turns out the star wars and seasons versions do want to read my call logs anyway... highly suspicious [13:06] Tak: that's just being anal [13:06] no, it's not rationalizing being wrong [13:10] damian_^: yes, it is very weird. [13:10] and those are not the only apps <.< [13:11] otoh, i may have some hope that google some day calls me and hand a job offer, now that they can read not only my search history and email but my notes, calendar, etc as well [13:11] :OP [13:11] :P * [13:12] give here [13:13] hi [13:13] Walther: they can only read your info if you use their services [13:14] it's the choice you make [13:14] Yes, yes... But well, point me a single mail and/or calendar app that works on par [13:14] Apart from pen and paper, that is :P === mint_ is now known as _DADDY9 === _DADDY9 is now known as _DADDY [13:37] <_DADDY> hi [13:37] hi === msorvig_ is now known as msorvig [17:14] has anyone tried ubuntu os on a htc 0ne s yet? === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam