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| infinity | cjwatson: Oh, to be clear on the d-i versus omap4 kernels thing, the ABI referenced in that upload *does* exist in -proposed, but it's currently buggy, so waiting on today's PPA upload to land would be good before we accept it (but please do review). | 07:45 |
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| Daviey | ugh, we don't get a useful c-m anymore due to using -proposed? | 14:23 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: can you promote these sources from NEW and move them to main (in raring), please? nvidia-settings-304 nvidia-settings-304-updates nvidia-settings-310 nvidia-settings-310-updates | 14:29 |
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| cjwatson | Daviey: It's on Ursinha's to-do list | 14:35 |
| Ursinha | hello Daviey :) yes, it is | 14:35 |
| cjwatson | tseliot: Looking | 14:35 |
| cjwatson | tseliot: What's going to deal with installing all these differently-versioned tools packages? | 14:38 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: there are packages which recommend them: e.g. nvidia-310 recommends nvidia-settings-310 | 14:39 |
| cjwatson | What's going to deal with installing those? :-) | 14:39 |
| cjwatson | I guess I don't care that much; it just seems like a step backwards to have to have multiple different versions of userspace tools, rather than a single master thing that can configure any of the possibilities | 14:40 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: the main problem is that drivers can break the interface nvidia-settings deals with | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | Ah. Sucky | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | Well, not my problem I guess | 14:41 |
| tseliot | :) | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | Accepted - they'll probably fall back into multiverse or something after moving out of -proposed and have to be fixed up due to that known bug, so remind me if I forget | 14:41 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: ok, I will, thanks | 14:42 |
| Daviey | Ursinha: Great :) | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | Hmm. Looking at oversizedness. Would it make sense to switch ubuntu-desktop in precise-proposed to Recommends: linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal rather than linux-headers-generic [amd64], linux-headers-generic-pae [i386]? | 15:54 |
| cjwatson | It would have the effect of installing linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal for upgraders, but would (I think) drop linux-headers-generic{,-pae} and dependencies off images. | 15:55 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: can you please reject the following sources from precise-proposed (I need to commit one more change)?: fglrx-installer-experimental-9 (2:9.010-0ubuntu0.3 and 2:9.010-0ubuntu0.4), fglrx-installer-updates (2:9.000-0ubuntu0.3 and 2:9.000-0ubuntu0.4), nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310 (310.14-0ubuntu0.3) | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | tseliot: Done | 16:00 |
| tseliot | cjwatson: thanks again | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | doko: Is that ready yet? Neil's latest blog post suggested that he was part-way through a refactor that would make it all a lot saner | 16:11 |
| doko | well, I was hoping to use it for the cross build just for perl for now | 16:12 |
| doko | but I can use a local copy too | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | It just seems to me that we could easily end up doing chunks of work several times. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | But whatever ... | 16:13 |
| doko | so feel free to reject it | 16:13 |
| doko | however he seems to build his own arm64 toolchain first | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | meh, you can have it, I'm not that worried :) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | Hmm, not clear that the new livecd-rootfs is doing a stellar job of resolving things properly | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | cmap-adobe-japan1 shouldn't be here | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | Hmm, I think that Recommends: cmap-adobe-japan2 is insufficient to resolve an alternative Depends | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | When using only metapackages, anyway | 16:24 |
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| cjwatson | And I'm not sure it's possible to get rid of notification-daemon again without SRUing some other things to add notify-osd as a preferred alternative | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | Tasks definitely have their advantages | 16:31 |
| infinity | cjwatson: In raring, I dropped linux-headers recommends entirely from the desktop metapackage, since they're pulled in by installing linux-$(flavour) anyway. | 17:04 |
| infinity | cjwatson: Not sure if you feel we can get away with that in precise, but if the installer DTRT, I don't see why not. | 17:04 |
| ogra_ | is that true for arm as well ? | 17:07 |
| infinity | ogra_: Yes. It fixed the silly situation where the nexus7 images had omap4 headers. :P | 17:07 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | well, not only nexus7 ... the omap4 ones were seeded in -desktop iirc | 17:08 |
| infinity | Exactly. | 17:08 |
| infinity | That was just an example. ac100 had the same problem. | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | yup | 17:08 |
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| ogra_ | oh, even on chromebook ! | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | update-manager just removed the omap4 headers with this upgrade | 17:42 |
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| cjwatson | Moving cmap-adobe-japan2 to ubuntu-desktop's Depends causes cmap-adobe-japan1 not to be installed. OTOH moving libqt4-sql-sqlite similarly makes no difference to libqt4-sql-mysql. | 18:32 |
| cjwatson | Sigh. | 18:32 |
| infinity | cjwatson: I'm working with apw right now to fix the linux-generic deps. Do we really need to switch the -desktop recommends, rather than just dropping it? | 19:09 |
| infinity | cjwatson: (It'll bring in the wrong headers on upgrade for people still using the 3.2.0 kernel, will it not?) | 19:09 |
| apw | infinity, ack, am going to do the 4 you mentioned for me | 19:15 |
| infinity | apw: My hero. :) | 19:15 |
| infinity | ARGH, WHY DHCLIENT, WHY?! | 19:16 |
| * infinity changes his IP on his PPC machine to static, so dhclient stops complaining about it being 1930. | 19:17 | |
| infinity | Oh, or maybe I can use the fixrtc hack. | 19:18 |
| infinity | # It will probably fail, but we won't have made the situation any worse. | 19:22 |
| infinity | ^-- Best comment I've read all week. | 19:22 |
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