=== popey_ is now known as popey [07:45] cjwatson: Oh, to be clear on the d-i versus omap4 kernels thing, the ABI referenced in that upload *does* exist in -proposed, but it's currently buggy, so waiting on today's PPA upload to land would be good before we accept it (but please do review). === henrix_ is now known as henrix === doko_ is now known as doko === soren_ is now known as soren === henrix is now known as henrix_ === henrix_ is now known as henrix === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:23] ugh, we don't get a useful c-m anymore due to using -proposed? [14:29] cjwatson: can you promote these sources from NEW and move them to main (in raring), please? nvidia-settings-304 nvidia-settings-304-updates nvidia-settings-310 nvidia-settings-310-updates === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:35] Daviey: It's on Ursinha's to-do list [14:35] hello Daviey :) yes, it is [14:35] tseliot: Looking [14:38] tseliot: What's going to deal with installing all these differently-versioned tools packages? [14:39] cjwatson: there are packages which recommend them: e.g. nvidia-310 recommends nvidia-settings-310 [14:39] What's going to deal with installing those? :-) [14:40] I guess I don't care that much; it just seems like a step backwards to have to have multiple different versions of userspace tools, rather than a single master thing that can configure any of the possibilities [14:41] cjwatson: the main problem is that drivers can break the interface nvidia-settings deals with [14:41] Ah. Sucky [14:41] Well, not my problem I guess [14:41] :) [14:41] Accepted - they'll probably fall back into multiverse or something after moving out of -proposed and have to be fixed up due to that known bug, so remind me if I forget [14:42] cjwatson: ok, I will, thanks [14:43] Ursinha: Great :) [15:54] Hmm. Looking at oversizedness. Would it make sense to switch ubuntu-desktop in precise-proposed to Recommends: linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal rather than linux-headers-generic [amd64], linux-headers-generic-pae [i386]? [15:55] It would have the effect of installing linux-headers-generic-lts-quantal for upgraders, but would (I think) drop linux-headers-generic{,-pae} and dependencies off images. [15:56] cjwatson: can you please reject the following sources from precise-proposed (I need to commit one more change)?: fglrx-installer-experimental-9 (2:9.010-0ubuntu0.3 and 2:9.010-0ubuntu0.4), fglrx-installer-updates (2:9.000-0ubuntu0.3 and 2:9.000-0ubuntu0.4), nvidia-graphics-drivers-experimental-310 (310.14-0ubuntu0.3) [16:00] tseliot: Done [16:00] cjwatson: thanks again [16:11] doko: Is that ready yet? Neil's latest blog post suggested that he was part-way through a refactor that would make it all a lot saner [16:12] well, I was hoping to use it for the cross build just for perl for now [16:12] but I can use a local copy too [16:12] It just seems to me that we could easily end up doing chunks of work several times. [16:13] But whatever ... [16:13] so feel free to reject it [16:14] however he seems to build his own arm64 toolchain first [16:16] meh, you can have it, I'm not that worried :) [16:21] Hmm, not clear that the new livecd-rootfs is doing a stellar job of resolving things properly [16:21] cmap-adobe-japan1 shouldn't be here [16:24] Hmm, I think that Recommends: cmap-adobe-japan2 is insufficient to resolve an alternative Depends [16:24] When using only metapackages, anyway === henrix is now known as henrix_ === henrix_ is now known as henrix [16:30] And I'm not sure it's possible to get rid of notification-daemon again without SRUing some other things to add notify-osd as a preferred alternative [16:31] Tasks definitely have their advantages [17:04] cjwatson: In raring, I dropped linux-headers recommends entirely from the desktop metapackage, since they're pulled in by installing linux-$(flavour) anyway. [17:04] cjwatson: Not sure if you feel we can get away with that in precise, but if the installer DTRT, I don't see why not. [17:07] is that true for arm as well ? [17:07] ogra_: Yes. It fixed the silly situation where the nexus7 images had omap4 headers. :P [17:08] yeah [17:08] well, not only nexus7 ... the omap4 ones were seeded in -desktop iirc [17:08] Exactly. [17:08] That was just an example. ac100 had the same problem. [17:08] yup === tyhicks` is now known as tyhicks [17:42] oh, even on chromebook ! [17:42] update-manager just removed the omap4 headers with this upgrade === henrix is now known as henrix_ === henrix_ is now known as henrix [18:32] Moving cmap-adobe-japan2 to ubuntu-desktop's Depends causes cmap-adobe-japan1 not to be installed. OTOH moving libqt4-sql-sqlite similarly makes no difference to libqt4-sql-mysql. [18:32] Sigh. [19:09] cjwatson: I'm working with apw right now to fix the linux-generic deps. Do we really need to switch the -desktop recommends, rather than just dropping it? [19:09] cjwatson: (It'll bring in the wrong headers on upgrade for people still using the 3.2.0 kernel, will it not?) [19:15] infinity, ack, am going to do the 4 you mentioned for me [19:15] apw: My hero. :) [19:16] ARGH, WHY DHCLIENT, WHY?! [19:17] * infinity changes his IP on his PPC machine to static, so dhclient stops complaining about it being 1930. [19:18] Oh, or maybe I can use the fixrtc hack. [19:22] # It will probably fail, but we won't have made the situation any worse. [19:22] ^-- Best comment I've read all week. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === henrix is now known as henrix_ === jrgifford is now known as Guest83669