nishiNice to meet you06:31
nishi??? aaa...06:32
nishiwhat should i do?06:32
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antivapor1hi! i have two monitors that are mirroring each other. there aren't any alternate options in the display settings,  how do i add those options?23:11
len-1304under settings look for arandr23:12
antivapor1got it, have a default setting, what next?23:14
len-1304If you want it to boot that way go back to setting manager and display and change anything back and forth that wil save it.23:15
len-1304It 's a bit hacky right now. arandr will save a file that can be fed to xrandr at login too.23:16
antivapor1do i need to save a second setting or use that script? i currently only have a single 'default' screen shown even though two monitors are connected. :)23:17
antivapor1and display is same on both23:18
len-1304arandr should allow you to drag one off the top of the other and position it23:18
antivapor1http://i.imgur.com/EVvK3.png nobody is beneath it23:20
len-1304You are right. in arandr  in the outputs pull down menu does it show something that is not enabled?23:22
len-1304I don't have two monitors to play with. I tested it by bringing my net book and using my desktop monitor for a bit. I'm going from memory.23:23
len-1304What kind of video are you using? Which driver?23:24
antivapor1the first drop says 'default' and that has 'active' checked, and then there are also resolution and orientation for output. thanks for testing btw. i suppose i might need a driver, i believe i have an AMD / ATI23:24
antivapor1ah yes, same thought23:24
len-1304If you are using the open source driver it should work ok.23:24
len-1304if you are using the ATI closed source ones then you need the ATI utility to do things.23:25
len-1304(nvidia is the saem)23:25
antivapor1nope, using open source, but maybe i should get the utility.23:26
len-1304It looks like X is only seeing one monitor and the IF is just cloning it.23:26
holsteini had to install the proprietary driver for my nvidia to do dual head23:27
holsteini should test on my ati hardware, but it really is different from device to device23:28
len-1304holstein,  I must have been lucky :)23:28
holsteinwe cant really have a "how to" that will just work for everyone... its fiddly23:28
holsteinOR, it can be fiddly.. sometimes it just works23:28
len-1304If xrandr sees it, then things work.23:28
holsteinlen-1304: i couldnt seem to get it to "span"23:29
antivapor1i used lspci -nn  grep VGA to see that I have ATI RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] and  RV620 [Radeon HD 3450], are these the monitors?23:29
len-1304I'm not sure, I just know I could place the two side by side.23:29
antivapor1Oh, i think theyre the graphics cards...23:30
len-1304You have two cards?23:30
antivapor1I might??23:31
len-1304You should know :) Did you put a second one in?23:31
holsteinantivapor1: sometimes when im beating my head against the wall, i'll fire up a knoppix live CD (or puppy) configure the dual head, copy the xorg.conf and bring that back to ubuntu and tweak as needed23:31
len-1304Are both monitors plugged into the same card? Is this a laptop?23:32
holsteinantivapor1: if you look and have 2 graphics cards, then you have 2 graphics cards23:32
len-1304holstein, cool what do they do different?23:32
antivapor1no, i didnt put one in, but maybe there was a default one, and then a better one. Both are plugged into same card. I'm dual-booted windows and it works okay there.23:33
holsteinlen-1304: knoppix? im not sure, but sometimes it gives me another viable option and an easier place to start23:33
len-1304Vanilla defaults to side by side these days23:34
holsteinantivapor1: if you dont have the proprietary driver, i would just try that23:34
antivapor1hmm, i should use fglrx and edit the xorg.conf?23:36
len-1304I really don't know... It's beyond me.23:39
len-1304The xsession logs may have some info.23:40
len-1304Unplugging the second monitor and seeing what happens and plugging it back in.23:41
len-1304If the driver is doing anything for the second monitor it should show.23:42
antivapor1[    23.412] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.23:44
antivapor1[    23.412] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.23:44
antivapor1[ 26649.827] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)23:44
antivapor1[ 26649.827] (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x146 (1400x1050)23:44
len-1304typing xrandr in a terminal gives?23:47
antivapor1[    23.412] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.23:47
antivapor1[    23.412] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.23:47
antivapor1[ 26649.827] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)23:47
antivapor1[ 26649.827] (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x146 (1400x1050)23:47
antivapor1xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default23:48
antivapor1Screen 0: minimum 640 x 400, current 1400 x 1050, maximum 1400 x 105023:48
antivapor1default connected 1400x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm23:48
antivapor1   1400x1050       0.0*23:48
antivapor1   1280x1024       0.023:48
antivapor1   1152x864        0.023:48
antivapor1   1024x768        0.023:48
antivapor1   800x600         0.023:48
antivapor1   640x480         0.023:48
antivapor1   720x400         0.023:48
antivapor1tom@crannog:~$ ^C23:48
len-1304So still only screen 023:48
len-1304When I plug a second screen in I get two screen sections.23:49
len-1304The "ignoring this device" seems significant to me23:50
antivapor1agreed. still looking for how to install amd/ati drivers.. will update soon if i find.23:51
antivapor1you know where hardware drivers manager is?23:54
lelapinHi !23:58
antivapor1ah, support for my chips were dropped, cause i have 3000 series http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary23:58

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