[06:31] Nice to meet you [06:32] ??? aaa... [06:32] what should i do? [18:53] Hello. === _dancer is now known as MOSMarauder === kote_ is now known as kote [23:11] hi! i have two monitors that are mirroring each other. there aren't any alternate options in the display settings, how do i add those options? [23:12] under settings look for arandr [23:14] got it, have a default setting, what next? [23:15] If you want it to boot that way go back to setting manager and display and change anything back and forth that wil save it. [23:16] It 's a bit hacky right now. arandr will save a file that can be fed to xrandr at login too. [23:17] do i need to save a second setting or use that script? i currently only have a single 'default' screen shown even though two monitors are connected. :) [23:18] and display is same on both [23:18] arandr should allow you to drag one off the top of the other and position it [23:20] http://i.imgur.com/EVvK3.png nobody is beneath it [23:22] You are right. in arandr in the outputs pull down menu does it show something that is not enabled? [23:23] I don't have two monitors to play with. I tested it by bringing my net book and using my desktop monitor for a bit. I'm going from memory. [23:24] What kind of video are you using? Which driver? [23:24] the first drop says 'default' and that has 'active' checked, and then there are also resolution and orientation for output. thanks for testing btw. i suppose i might need a driver, i believe i have an AMD / ATI [23:24] ah yes, same thought [23:24] If you are using the open source driver it should work ok. [23:25] if you are using the ATI closed source ones then you need the ATI utility to do things. [23:25] (nvidia is the saem) [23:25] *same [23:26] nope, using open source, but maybe i should get the utility. [23:26] It looks like X is only seeing one monitor and the IF is just cloning it. [23:27] i had to install the proprietary driver for my nvidia to do dual head [23:28] i should test on my ati hardware, but it really is different from device to device [23:28] holstein, I must have been lucky :) [23:28] we cant really have a "how to" that will just work for everyone... its fiddly [23:28] OR, it can be fiddly.. sometimes it just works [23:28] If xrandr sees it, then things work. [23:29] len-1304: i couldnt seem to get it to "span" [23:29] i used lspci -nn grep VGA to see that I have ATI RS780 [Radeon HD 3200] and RV620 [Radeon HD 3450], are these the monitors? [23:29] I'm not sure, I just know I could place the two side by side. [23:30] Oh, i think theyre the graphics cards... [23:30] You have two cards? [23:31] I might?? [23:31] You should know :) Did you put a second one in? [23:31] antivapor1: sometimes when im beating my head against the wall, i'll fire up a knoppix live CD (or puppy) configure the dual head, copy the xorg.conf and bring that back to ubuntu and tweak as needed [23:32] Are both monitors plugged into the same card? Is this a laptop? [23:32] antivapor1: if you look and have 2 graphics cards, then you have 2 graphics cards [23:32] holstein, cool what do they do different? [23:33] no, i didnt put one in, but maybe there was a default one, and then a better one. Both are plugged into same card. I'm dual-booted windows and it works okay there. [23:33] len-1304: knoppix? im not sure, but sometimes it gives me another viable option and an easier place to start [23:34] Vanilla defaults to side by side these days [23:34] antivapor1: if you dont have the proprietary driver, i would just try that [23:36] hmm, i should use fglrx and edit the xorg.conf? [23:39] I really don't know... It's beyond me. [23:40] The xsession logs may have some info. [23:41] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [23:41] Unplugging the second monitor and seeing what happens and plugging it back in. [23:42] If the driver is doing anything for the second monitor it should show. [23:44] event9) [23:44] [ 23.412] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. [23:44] [ 23.412] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. [23:44] [ 26649.827] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) [23:44] [ 26649.827] (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x146 (1400x1050) [23:47] typing xrandr in a terminal gives? [23:47] event9) [23:47] [ 23.412] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. [23:47] [ 23.412] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. [23:47] [ 26649.827] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) [23:47] [ 26649.827] (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x146 (1400x1050) [23:48] woops [23:48] xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default [23:48] Screen 0: minimum 640 x 400, current 1400 x 1050, maximum 1400 x 1050 [23:48] default connected 1400x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm [23:48] 1400x1050 0.0* [23:48] 1280x1024 0.0 [23:48] 1152x864 0.0 [23:48] 1024x768 0.0 [23:48] 800x600 0.0 [23:48] 640x480 0.0 [23:48] 720x400 0.0 [23:48] tom@crannog:~$ ^C [23:48] So still only screen 0 [23:49] correct [23:49] When I plug a second screen in I get two screen sections. [23:50] The "ignoring this device" seems significant to me [23:51] agreed. still looking for how to install amd/ati drivers.. will update soon if i find. [23:54] you know where hardware drivers manager is? [23:58] Hi ! [23:58] ah, support for my chips were dropped, cause i have 3000 series http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary