| Walther | I'm seeing serious battery life regressions in 13.04, any help? | 06:52 |
|---|---|---|
| Walther | Bumblebee is installed and discrete video card is off | 06:52 |
| Walther | but still I get around 2h from full battery instead of the ~5-6 i used to get | 06:52 |
| Walther | Tunables in powertop are set | 06:53 |
| gnomefreak | anyone know how to diable the paswor for keyring upon gnome loading | 07:32 |
| gnomefreak | no one? | 08:16 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, I've always just left it blank; did you mean how to blank it once its set? system settings users and groups I thought, though let me check | 08:30 |
| gnomefreak | i dont want the propmt at all, i did it like a year ago and cant recall how to do it | 08:32 |
| bazhang | http://www.fandigital.com/2012/05/how-to-auto-unlock-keyring-in-ubuntu.html | 08:37 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, ^ | 08:37 |
| gnomefreak | thanks' | 08:39 |
| bazhang | np | 08:39 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: here is where i got stuck: Next, on Password and Keys window, right-click on a password item that you will unlock. If you have more than one password item, just right-click on each of them. When the pop-up menu shown, click "Change Password". not sure what one to change | 08:47 |
| bazhang | gnomefreak, let me try on mine, just a minute | 08:47 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 08:49 |
| bazhang | I've got two as well. desktop couch authentication they are named, and evolution so three | 08:51 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: i dont have either of those | 08:51 |
| bazhang | odd | 08:51 |
| bazhang | well I never need to enter mine, so it must the same as my sudo password | 08:52 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: here is a screen shot. after the last entry in it is just browser passwordds. http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6508/screenshotfrom201301150.png | 08:57 |
| bazhang | yeah, no clue then sorry gnomefreak | 08:57 |
| gnomefreak | bazhang: np thanks for you r help anyway | 08:58 |
| gnomefreak | s/you r/your | 08:58 |
| * gnomefreak wonders if some of the things changed | 09:00 | |
| gnomefreak | 35 not upgraded :( | 09:06 |
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| rye | hi, totem / gnome-shell / any pulseaudio app is hanging due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glibc/+bug/1085342 which is fixed upstream but broken in debian and consequently in ubuntu. Anybody here I can poke about that? | 12:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1085342 in totem (Ubuntu) "Totem window constantly becomes unresponsive with gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:10 |
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| Walther | I'm seeing serious battery life regressions in 13.04, any help? Bumblebee is installed and discrete video card is off but still I get around 2h from full battery instead of the ~5-6 i used to. Tunables in powertop are set. | 12:25 |
| rye | Walther: what kernel and what is the video card that is currently enabled? | 12:27 |
| Walther | Linux affogato 3.8.0-0-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 11 17:26:08 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux | 12:27 |
| rye | Walther: for how long have you been running 3.8.0 kernel? | 12:28 |
| Walther | intel i7 ivy bridge CPU -> HD4000 graphics, and optionally, with bumblebee, Nvidia 620M | 12:28 |
| Walther | rye: Idk, when was it pushed to 13.04 | 12:28 |
| Walther | i just apt-get upgrade :) | 12:28 |
| rye | Walther: because in 3.7 one there was a massive regression both in cpufreq (speed was always at 100%) and i915 kernel module which always was running at full speed. | 12:29 |
| Walther | hmm | 12:29 |
| Walther | interesting | 12:29 |
| rye | Walther: 3.8.0 was pushed on Jan 11-Jan 12 | 12:29 |
| Walther | that then, probably | 12:30 |
| Walther | I use this on my main laptop all the time, update&&upgrade multiple times a day | 12:30 |
| rye | Walther: let me look up the file which shows what freq the GPU is on to see whether it is fixed for you | 12:31 |
| rye | Walther: ok, first CPU - "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq" | 12:31 |
| Walther | 800000 | 12:32 |
| rye | ok, cpufreq works | 12:32 |
| Walther | works, two terminals with "yes" running -> increases to 2401000 | 12:33 |
| rye | Walther: sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_cur_delayinfo | grep CAGF | 12:34 |
| Walther | 700MHz | 12:35 |
| rye | Walther: ok, then these two are ok, when did you last measure the battery usage? | 12:35 |
| Walther | with two terminals with yes, drops to 350MHz | 12:35 |
| Walther | Not actually sure. Haven't had lectures during last month so I've pretty much been plugged in | 12:36 |
| Walther | but i've had nice 5-6h battery life at least with 12.10 and initial setup of 13.04 if i recall correctly | 12:37 |
| Walther | and I've always got >4h | 12:37 |
| Walther | now if I unplug, it shows about 2h15 | 12:37 |
| Walther | (and it's not just the battery indicator, it actually doesn't last longer) | 12:38 |
| rye | Walther: well, ok, if you can test it now with 3.8.0 then that should be much better, with 3.7 on intel machines the CPU and GPU was always at 100% speed causing severe battery usage | 12:38 |
| Walther | I am on 3.8 | 12:38 |
| Walther | I'm always at the latest pushed update :P | 12:38 |
| Walther | But yeah, no problems surviving through this, i'm also willing to help debugging this | 12:39 |
| rye | Walther: what's the laptop model? | 12:40 |
| Walther | Zenbook UX32VD | 12:40 |
| Walther | but upgraded to have a 256GB SSD | 12:40 |
| Walther | ivy i7, 13" fullHD LED IPS, 256GB SSD, Nvidia 620M, 4GB DR3 160MHz (will upgrade to 10GB asap) | 12:41 |
| rye | Walther: uh-huh, unfortunately I am not a kernel developer so operating only upon the data available in public sources and my experience... nVidia module is not loaded, right? | 12:47 |
| Walther | rye: probably not correctly | 12:48 |
| Walther | even though optirun --status reports | 12:48 |
| Walther | sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_cur_delayinfo | grep CAGF | 12:48 |
| Walther | eh | 12:48 |
| Walther | Bumblebee status: Ready (3.0.1). X inactive. Discrete video card is on. | 12:48 |
| Walther | and yeah, that probably explains the battery thing | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | running on the 13.04 live dvd trying to figure a way to get ubiquity to install the OS , it just hangs at the disk examination stage and goes nowhere. Too bad there's no text mode installer :( | 14:29 |
| rye | BluesKaj: are you able to get to the console? Any errors there? | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | rye, i didn't try | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | odd part is nouveau driver is working fine here , can't figure out what the problem is since on the previous kernel X wouldn't even start | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | rye, I did dmesg , but I don't see anything to do with disksetup etc | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | this is what /var/log syslog prints out at what seems to be my last attempt to install the OS , http://pastebin.com/CuHXREZT | 15:05 |
| alo21 | hi everybody.... | 18:01 |
| alo21 | I cannot install ubuntu rating on my usb-key with usb-creator-gtk, because I got: checksum not valid. Why? | 18:02 |
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| Walther | alo21: are you sure your download didn't go awry? | 19:08 |
| Walther | alo21: try re-downloading the image :) | 19:08 |
| jtaylor | using zsync will safe you some time if you have a slow connection | 19:08 |
| Walther | Anyone want to help me find out why installing nvidia kernel modules fails? | 19:24 |
| Walther | Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... | 19:24 |
| Walther | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-0-generic | 19:24 |
| Walther | modprobe: ../tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed. | 19:24 |
| Walther | Aborted (core dumped) | 19:24 |
| Walther | when issuing "apt-get install bumblebee bumbelbee-nvidia nvidia-current" | 19:24 |
| Walther | Uh, anyone? | 19:54 |
| yofel | Walther: that modprobe error isn't fatal, but nvidia-current (304) doesn't build with 3.8 | 20:06 |
| yofel | use nvidia-310 instead | 20:06 |
| alo21 | Walther, did... but still the same issue | 20:12 |
| BluesKaj | well, I managed to get Kubuntu 13.04 installed by installing 12.10 first then doing a net upgrade and not installing the nvidia "additional driver ". Ss it stands the nouveau is struggling with OpenGL and Native on Qt | 21:15 |
| BluesKaj | a few crashes , that do recover , especially when launching and making changes in system settings | 21:16 |
| johnjohn101 | having a problem with 64 bit 13.04 and firefox 19 and flash crashing all the time. | 21:29 |
| BluesKaj | johnjohn101, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras? | 21:36 |
| johnjohn101 | i'm running regular ubunut | 21:37 |
| johnjohn101 | it looks like it's the latest version | 21:37 |
| BluesKaj | then ubuntu-restricted-extras | 21:37 |
| johnjohn101 | what does that provide?e? | 21:37 |
| BluesKaj | flash and codecs | 21:38 |
| johnjohn101 | i used software center | 21:38 |
| BluesKaj | !restricted-extras | 21:38 |
| yofel | flashplugin-installer will be enough, but that's what's usually installed | 21:38 |
| BluesKaj | hmm , no factoid | 21:38 |
| yofel | I haven't gotten any flash crashes here lately, but I don't really use it much | 21:39 |
| yofel | johnjohn101: any particuar public page that crashes it? | 21:39 |
| johnjohn101 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVuF3IWSSA | 21:40 |
| johnjohn101 | loading the extras | 21:40 |
| johnjohn101 | really almost anything on youtube | 21:42 |
| BluesKaj | seems to work ok here .. | 21:42 |
| yofel | can't get it to crash here either so far.. | 21:44 |
| johnjohn101 | crashes everytime here | 21:45 |
| johnjohn101 | even on chrome now | 21:46 |
| johnjohn101 | even sending the error report fails | 21:48 |
| johnjohn101 | anything i can collect and send or just wait to see if it gets resolved with a new patch or something | 21:51 |
| Walther | Installed the 310 driver, now I can't get to desktop | 21:55 |
| Walther | on login, flashes a couple times and back at login | 21:55 |
| Walther | can get to the tty's though :P | 21:55 |
| Walther | aaaand it still reports X inactive, card on | 21:56 |
| Walther | Help, anyone? | 21:58 |
| johnjohn101 | Walther: be patient. they are here and there. | 22:11 |
| Walther | Sure are :) | 22:13 |
| Walther | I just happen to have a full day of lectures + work tomorrow (...uh, in 8 hours), kinda want to get my laptop in working shape :P | 22:14 |
| Walther | Of course I can just fallback and use vi | 22:14 |
| johnjohn101 | you're using 13.04 now? | 22:15 |
| Walther | yup | 22:15 |
| Walther | wouldn't be asking in this channel otherwise | 22:15 |
| johnjohn101 | never use alpha for something you need to work | 22:15 |
| johnjohn101 | just my two cents | 22:15 |
| JonEdney | I'm weary to run Beta on a production machine. | 22:16 |
| yofel | Walther: a pastebin of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be helpful | 22:16 |
| yofel | use pastebinit if you don't have X | 22:17 |
| BluesKaj | I've been sruggling with 13.04 Kubuntu on an AMD64 bit pc with nvidia 8400gs card , finally got it to work , altho still a bit crashy using OpenGL , so xrender will have to do for the time being | 22:18 |
| johnjohn101 | maybe i'll reload in late feb. | 22:19 |
| Walther | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1535816 should be | 22:20 |
| yofel | 3.8 still doesn't like my desktop's optical drives. I'm not really sure what's wrong though | 22:21 |
| Walther | 3.8 seems to have plenty of issues | 22:21 |
| Walther | it's only a good thing, tells us that something is being worked on :P | 22:21 |
| BluesKaj | 3.7 was worse here | 22:21 |
| yofel | (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets | 22:22 |
| yofel | Walther: twin card setup? | 22:22 |
| yofel | Walther: as X is loading the intel driver | 22:22 |
| BluesKaj | ubiquity is still broken on 3.8 tho , I had to install 12.10 then do a net upgrade from there | 22:22 |
| Walther | yofel: ...eh, like i've been telling a couple times, i7 w/ HD4000 (ivy bridge) and Nvidia 620m | 22:22 |
| Walther | nvidia-310 + bumblebee + bumblebee-nvidia installed | 22:23 |
| yofel | ah sorry, I didn't scroll back *that* far | 22:23 |
| Walther | nvidia-current et al didn't break my X but it still had the GPU on all the time -> battery loss | 22:23 |
| Walther | someone sugested nvidia-310, got broken X | 22:23 |
| Walther | (and still GPU on all the time) | 22:24 |
| yofel | I did as I only saw your nvidia installation issue | 22:24 |
| yofel | as nvidia-current isn't installable | 22:24 |
| Walther | mm | 22:24 |
| * yofel doesn't know anything about optimus :/ | 22:24 | |
| BluesKaj | yofel, the the nvidia additional drivers/jockey fails to install any in the list here , so the nouveau is it ,but I'll settler for it to stop breakage | 22:29 |
| yofel | nvidia-310 works, nouveau has come a long way, but until it actually supports my displayport I need nvidia | 22:30 |
| BluesKaj | 'yeah , well that | 22:30 |
| BluesKaj | the cost of leading edge hardware | 22:31 |
| Walther | and nouveau doesn't play along with optimus / bumblebee | 22:31 |
| BluesKaj | is 310 the experimental driver ? | 22:32 |
| Walther | it's hit stable already | 22:32 |
| yofel | !info nvidia-310 | 22:32 |
| Walther | but it's not the default one yet | 22:32 |
| ubottu | nvidia-310 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-310): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 310.19-0ubuntu2 (raring), package size 36503 kB, installed size 104046 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia) | 22:32 |
| BluesKaj | hmmm...wonder if it | 22:33 |
| yofel | 310.14 is the experimental one I think | 22:33 |
| BluesKaj | ll run my 8400 | 22:33 |
| BluesKaj | ekcheapo card , but mosy nvidia drivers will run it | 22:34 |
| BluesKaj | elcheapo | 22:34 |
| Walther | yofel: yeah but the 310.19 is newer, and stable | 22:34 |
| BluesKaj | Walther, did you get the 310.19 from nvidia;s site | 22:37 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: it's in the archive | 22:37 |
| yofel | called nvidia-310 for now | 22:37 |
| Walther | BluesKaj: nope, repos | 22:39 |
| Walther | I try to aviod manual installs as much as possible | 22:39 |
| Walther | packae management <3 | 22:39 |
| Walther | peace for mind etc, not having to worry about security threats and exploits, patching everything on my own | 22:40 |
| Walther | just update && upgrade | 22:40 |
| BluesKaj | found the 310.19 , taking a gamble on it | 22:42 |
| BluesKaj | it wasn't marked as an upgrade in synaptic | 22:43 |
| yofel | technically it isn't one | 22:44 |
| Walther | it's a separate package | 22:44 |
| Walther | nvidia-current vs nvidia-310 | 22:44 |
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| Walther | otoh i wonder why it hasn't been applied as such yet | 22:44 |
| Walther | 310.19 is stable release by nvidia | 22:44 |
| BluesKaj | should be interesting to see what happens next | 22:45 |
| Walther | BluesKaj: tell me if you get a working X :P | 22:45 |
| Walther | also iirc you didn't have optimus? | 22:45 |
| BluesKaj | I'll be back either on 13.04 or 12.10 | 22:47 |
| BluesKaj | glxinfo | grep OpenGL indicates 310.19 is in service :) | 22:51 |
| BluesKaj | no optimus here , this is an older desktop | 22:52 |
| BluesKaj | Walther, yofel , thanks for thre tip | 22:52 |
| Walther | But yeah, any help on my issue? :P | 22:52 |
| BluesKaj | sorry , was too busy trying to fix mine ...and optimus is a tough nut | 22:56 |
| BluesKaj | still crashy here tho ..similar to nouveau | 22:56 |
| Walther | I've never had "crashy" problems | 22:57 |
| Walther | it either works or doesn't | 22:57 |
| Walther | but no random kpanics or anything | 22:58 |
| Walther | or crashing under stress etc | 22:58 |
| * yofel gets system lockups on his notebook sometimes - not under stress, only when doing "nothing" | 22:59 | |
| BluesKaj | system settings seems to crash a lot , it recovers immmediately , but leaves the notifier behind | 23:00 |
| yofel | any indication what crashes there from the backtrace? | 23:00 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, backtrace , http://pastebin.com/58M2G8F7 | 23:05 |
| BluesKaj | wife wants to watch the local news ...BBL | 23:06 |
| yofel | #5 is kinda useless.. | 23:06 |
| yofel | it's something QML though | 23:06 |
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