[06:52] I'm seeing serious battery life regressions in 13.04, any help? [06:52] Bumblebee is installed and discrete video card is off [06:52] but still I get around 2h from full battery instead of the ~5-6 i used to get [06:53] Tunables in powertop are set [07:32] anyone know how to diable the paswor for keyring upon gnome loading [08:16] no one? [08:30] gnomefreak, I've always just left it blank; did you mean how to blank it once its set? system settings users and groups I thought, though let me check [08:32] i dont want the propmt at all, i did it like a year ago and cant recall how to do it [08:37] http://www.fandigital.com/2012/05/how-to-auto-unlock-keyring-in-ubuntu.html [08:37] gnomefreak, ^ [08:39] thanks' [08:39] np [08:47] bazhang: here is where i got stuck: Next, on Password and Keys window, right-click on a password item that you will unlock. If you have more than one password item, just right-click on each of them. When the pop-up menu shown, click "Change Password". not sure what one to change [08:47] gnomefreak, let me try on mine, just a minute [08:49] thanks [08:51] I've got two as well. desktop couch authentication they are named, and evolution so three [08:51] bazhang: i dont have either of those [08:51] odd [08:52] well I never need to enter mine, so it must the same as my sudo password [08:57] bazhang: here is a screen shot. after the last entry in it is just browser passwordds. http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6508/screenshotfrom201301150.png [08:57] yeah, no clue then sorry gnomefreak [08:58] bazhang: np thanks for you r help anyway [08:58] s/you r/your [09:00] * gnomefreak wonders if some of the things changed [09:06] 35 not upgraded :( === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:10] hi, totem / gnome-shell / any pulseaudio app is hanging due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/glibc/+bug/1085342 which is fixed upstream but broken in debian and consequently in ubuntu. Anybody here I can poke about that? [12:10] Ubuntu bug 1085342 in totem (Ubuntu) "Totem window constantly becomes unresponsive with gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio installed" [Undecided,Confirmed] === trijntje_ is now known as trijntje [12:25] I'm seeing serious battery life regressions in 13.04, any help? Bumblebee is installed and discrete video card is off but still I get around 2h from full battery instead of the ~5-6 i used to. Tunables in powertop are set. [12:27] Walther: what kernel and what is the video card that is currently enabled? [12:27] Linux affogato 3.8.0-0-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 11 17:26:08 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux [12:28] Walther: for how long have you been running 3.8.0 kernel? [12:28] intel i7 ivy bridge CPU -> HD4000 graphics, and optionally, with bumblebee, Nvidia 620M [12:28] rye: Idk, when was it pushed to 13.04 [12:28] i just apt-get upgrade :) [12:29] Walther: because in 3.7 one there was a massive regression both in cpufreq (speed was always at 100%) and i915 kernel module which always was running at full speed. [12:29] hmm [12:29] interesting [12:29] Walther: 3.8.0 was pushed on Jan 11-Jan 12 [12:30] that then, probably [12:30] I use this on my main laptop all the time, update&&upgrade multiple times a day [12:31] Walther: let me look up the file which shows what freq the GPU is on to see whether it is fixed for you [12:31] Walther: ok, first CPU - "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq" [12:32] 800000 [12:32] ok, cpufreq works [12:33] works, two terminals with "yes" running -> increases to 2401000 [12:34] Walther: sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_cur_delayinfo | grep CAGF [12:35] 700MHz [12:35] Walther: ok, then these two are ok, when did you last measure the battery usage? [12:35] with two terminals with yes, drops to 350MHz [12:36] Not actually sure. Haven't had lectures during last month so I've pretty much been plugged in [12:37] but i've had nice 5-6h battery life at least with 12.10 and initial setup of 13.04 if i recall correctly [12:37] and I've always got >4h [12:37] now if I unplug, it shows about 2h15 [12:38] (and it's not just the battery indicator, it actually doesn't last longer) [12:38] Walther: well, ok, if you can test it now with 3.8.0 then that should be much better, with 3.7 on intel machines the CPU and GPU was always at 100% speed causing severe battery usage [12:38] I am on 3.8 [12:38] I'm always at the latest pushed update :P [12:39] But yeah, no problems surviving through this, i'm also willing to help debugging this [12:40] Walther: what's the laptop model? [12:40] Zenbook UX32VD [12:40] but upgraded to have a 256GB SSD [12:41] ivy i7, 13" fullHD LED IPS, 256GB SSD, Nvidia 620M, 4GB DR3 160MHz (will upgrade to 10GB asap) [12:47] Walther: uh-huh, unfortunately I am not a kernel developer so operating only upon the data available in public sources and my experience... nVidia module is not loaded, right? [12:48] rye: probably not correctly [12:48] even though optirun --status reports [12:48] sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_cur_delayinfo | grep CAGF [12:48] eh [12:48] Bumblebee status: Ready (3.0.1). X inactive. Discrete video card is on. [12:49] and yeah, that probably explains the battery thing [14:17] Hi all [14:29] running on the 13.04 live dvd trying to figure a way to get ubiquity to install the OS , it just hangs at the disk examination stage and goes nowhere. Too bad there's no text mode installer :( [14:30] BluesKaj: are you able to get to the console? Any errors there? [14:30] rye, i didn't try [14:33] odd part is nouveau driver is working fine here , can't figure out what the problem is since on the previous kernel X wouldn't even start [14:50] rye, I did dmesg , but I don't see anything to do with disksetup etc [15:05] this is what /var/log syslog prints out at what seems to be my last attempt to install the OS , http://pastebin.com/CuHXREZT [18:01] hi everybody.... [18:02] I cannot install ubuntu rating on my usb-key with usb-creator-gtk, because I got: checksum not valid. Why? === hggdh is now known as hggdh_AFK === jbicha_ is now known as jbicha [19:08] alo21: are you sure your download didn't go awry? [19:08] alo21: try re-downloading the image :) [19:08] using zsync will safe you some time if you have a slow connection [19:24] Anyone want to help me find out why installing nvidia kernel modules fails? [19:24] Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... [19:24] update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-0-generic [19:24] modprobe: ../tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed. [19:24] Aborted (core dumped) [19:24] when issuing "apt-get install bumblebee bumbelbee-nvidia nvidia-current" [19:54] Uh, anyone? [20:06] Walther: that modprobe error isn't fatal, but nvidia-current (304) doesn't build with 3.8 [20:06] use nvidia-310 instead [20:12] Walther, did... but still the same issue [21:15] well, I managed to get Kubuntu 13.04 installed by installing 12.10 first then doing a net upgrade and not installing the nvidia "additional driver ". Ss it stands the nouveau is struggling with OpenGL and Native on Qt [21:16] a few crashes , that do recover , especially when launching and making changes in system settings [21:29] having a problem with 64 bit 13.04 and firefox 19 and flash crashing all the time. [21:36] johnjohn101, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras? [21:37] i'm running regular ubunut [21:37] it looks like it's the latest version [21:37] then ubuntu-restricted-extras [21:37] what does that provide?e? [21:38] flash and codecs [21:38] i used software center [21:38] !restricted-extras [21:38] flashplugin-installer will be enough, but that's what's usually installed [21:38] hmm , no factoid [21:39] I haven't gotten any flash crashes here lately, but I don't really use it much [21:39] johnjohn101: any particuar public page that crashes it? [21:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVuF3IWSSA [21:40] loading the extras [21:42] really almost anything on youtube [21:42] seems to work ok here .. [21:44] can't get it to crash here either so far.. [21:45] crashes everytime here [21:46] even on chrome now [21:48] even sending the error report fails [21:51] anything i can collect and send or just wait to see if it gets resolved with a new patch or something [21:55] Installed the 310 driver, now I can't get to desktop [21:55] on login, flashes a couple times and back at login [21:55] can get to the tty's though :P [21:56] aaaand it still reports X inactive, card on [21:58] Help, anyone? [22:11] Walther: be patient. they are here and there. [22:13] Sure are :) [22:14] I just happen to have a full day of lectures + work tomorrow (...uh, in 8 hours), kinda want to get my laptop in working shape :P [22:14] Of course I can just fallback and use vi [22:15] you're using 13.04 now? [22:15] yup [22:15] wouldn't be asking in this channel otherwise [22:15] never use alpha for something you need to work [22:15] just my two cents [22:16] I'm weary to run Beta on a production machine. [22:16] Walther: a pastebin of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be helpful [22:17] use pastebinit if you don't have X [22:18] I've been sruggling with 13.04 Kubuntu on an AMD64 bit pc with nvidia 8400gs card , finally got it to work , altho still a bit crashy using OpenGL , so xrender will have to do for the time being [22:19] maybe i'll reload in late feb. [22:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1535816 should be [22:21] 3.8 still doesn't like my desktop's optical drives. I'm not really sure what's wrong though [22:21] 3.8 seems to have plenty of issues [22:21] it's only a good thing, tells us that something is being worked on :P [22:21] 3.7 was worse here [22:22] (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets [22:22] Walther: twin card setup? [22:22] Walther: as X is loading the intel driver [22:22] ubiquity is still broken on 3.8 tho , I had to install 12.10 then do a net upgrade from there [22:22] yofel: ...eh, like i've been telling a couple times, i7 w/ HD4000 (ivy bridge) and Nvidia 620m [22:23] nvidia-310 + bumblebee + bumblebee-nvidia installed [22:23] ah sorry, I didn't scroll back *that* far [22:23] nvidia-current et al didn't break my X but it still had the GPU on all the time -> battery loss [22:23] someone sugested nvidia-310, got broken X [22:24] (and still GPU on all the time) [22:24] I did as I only saw your nvidia installation issue [22:24] as nvidia-current isn't installable [22:24] mm [22:24] * yofel doesn't know anything about optimus :/ [22:29] yofel, the the nvidia additional drivers/jockey fails to install any in the list here , so the nouveau is it ,but I'll settler for it to stop breakage [22:30] nvidia-310 works, nouveau has come a long way, but until it actually supports my displayport I need nvidia [22:30] 'yeah , well that [22:31] the cost of leading edge hardware [22:31] and nouveau doesn't play along with optimus / bumblebee [22:32] is 310 the experimental driver ? [22:32] it's hit stable already [22:32] !info nvidia-310 [22:32] but it's not the default one yet [22:32] nvidia-310 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-310): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 310.19-0ubuntu2 (raring), package size 36503 kB, installed size 104046 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia) [22:33] hmmm...wonder if it [22:33] 310.14 is the experimental one I think [22:33] ll run my 8400 [22:34] ekcheapo card , but mosy nvidia drivers will run it [22:34] elcheapo [22:34] yofel: yeah but the 310.19 is newer, and stable [22:37] Walther, did you get the 310.19 from nvidia;s site [22:37] BluesKaj: it's in the archive [22:37] called nvidia-310 for now [22:39] BluesKaj: nope, repos [22:39] I try to aviod manual installs as much as possible [22:39] packae management <3 [22:40] peace for mind etc, not having to worry about security threats and exploits, patching everything on my own [22:40] just update && upgrade [22:42] found the 310.19 , taking a gamble on it [22:43] it wasn't marked as an upgrade in synaptic [22:44] technically it isn't one [22:44] it's a separate package [22:44] nvidia-current vs nvidia-310 === sdx32 is now known as sdx23 [22:44] otoh i wonder why it hasn't been applied as such yet [22:44] 310.19 is stable release by nvidia [22:45] should be interesting to see what happens next [22:45] BluesKaj: tell me if you get a working X :P [22:45] also iirc you didn't have optimus? [22:47] I'll be back either on 13.04 or 12.10 [22:51] glxinfo | grep OpenGL indicates 310.19 is in service :) [22:52] no optimus here , this is an older desktop [22:52] Walther, yofel , thanks for thre tip [22:52] But yeah, any help on my issue? :P [22:56] sorry , was too busy trying to fix mine ...and optimus is a tough nut [22:56] still crashy here tho ..similar to nouveau [22:57] I've never had "crashy" problems [22:57] it either works or doesn't [22:58] but no random kpanics or anything [22:58] or crashing under stress etc [22:59] * yofel gets system lockups on his notebook sometimes - not under stress, only when doing "nothing" [23:00] system settings seems to crash a lot , it recovers immmediately , but leaves the notifier behind [23:00] any indication what crashes there from the backtrace? [23:05] yofel, backtrace , http://pastebin.com/58M2G8F7 [23:06] wife wants to watch the local news ...BBL [23:06] #5 is kinda useless.. [23:06] it's something QML though === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM