| robru | anybody know of a way to make launchpad recipes include a PPA for build-deps? | 00:56 |
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| xnox | robru: one usually adds ppa dependencies to the ppa, and I thought recipes pull sources from the target ppa. | 00:57 |
| xnox | that should just work, tm. or it's a bug. | 00:57 |
| robru | xnox, I *thought* recipes would pull sources from the target PPA, but I just checked on a recipe for the first time in a while and I'm noticing that it hasn't actually built in a long time, because another package from the same PPA is not available | 00:58 |
| robru | xnox, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/128483890/buildlog.txt.gz quite strange | 00:58 |
| xnox | =( sad | 00:58 |
| xnox | yes, odd. file a bug on launchpad against launchpad or look for similar onces. | 01:01 |
| xnox | robru: i can see at the top of the log that the ppa is added, but then it's a mistery while the build dep was not satisfied. | 01:01 |
| robru | xnox, oh, that is quite strange. | 01:02 |
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| robru | xnox, I'm confused now... one of them just built successfully, but other than that one just now, it seems it hasn't built at all since November. not sure how I didn't notice this until just now ;-) | 01:26 |
| jasoncwarner | hey bryce and RAOF , I'm getting some GPU hangs right now and was wondering if you knew anything about them? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1099394 | 01:37 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1099394 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[sandybridge-m-gt2+] GPU lockup IPEHR: 0x0b160001 IPEHR: 0x01000000" [Undecided,New] | 01:37 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner: Whaddaya know? I just got a GPU hang right then. | 01:43 |
| RAOF | Also apparently glyph cache corruption, causing all ‘y’s to appear as tiny subscript ‘t’s. | 01:44 |
| jasoncwarner | RAOF I had to reboot to get out of the endless GPU hang loop. Rebooted and got it again. Fun times :) | 01:45 |
| RAOF | I think I may have had to VT switch to get X back. | 01:45 |
| RAOF | Maybe. | 01:45 |
| RAOF | Mmm, glyph cache doesn't like ‘M’ either :) | 01:46 |
| RAOF | Looks like the same hang as in the bug you linked, though. | 01:46 |
| jasoncwarner | RAOF well, I guess I'm glad I got the same bug as an X guy ;) | 01:50 |
| didrocks | confirming the random hanging basically, same hw than jasoncwarner | 01:51 |
| didrocks | switching to a VT workaround the issue | 01:51 |
| jasoncwarner | didrocks did yours just start? mine seemed to just start today (not sure since I didn't have my computer up for three travel days) | 01:53 |
| * RAOF switches to SNA to see if that also hits this problem. | 02:04 | |
| bryce | jasoncwarner, yeah noticed there's been a spate of -intel bugs come in the last few days. Are you able to reproduce it fairly easily? If so might try the prior kernel. | 02:10 |
| TheMuso | Yeah I was wondering whether 3.8 would bring along fun stuff like this? Had some 3.8 related audio bugs too afaicr. | 02:11 |
| bryce | jasoncwarner, hmm, the other -intel bug reports that have come in the last few days have all different error codes, so probably different random issues | 02:12 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure, but I don't *think* this was 3.8 related. | 02:16 |
| bryce | could be the ddx; new version was uploaded last week | 02:18 |
| bryce | ditto xserver, hmm | 02:19 |
| pitti | Good morning | 04:59 |
| pitti | Laney, desrt: FYI, I uploaded glib2.0 2.35.4 to ubuntu-desktop PPA | 06:43 |
| pitti | Laney, desrt: works fine here (boot, guest session, my own regular session, unity, I tried a few programs etc.) | 06:45 |
| pitti | I guess I'll wait until it boots in the PPA, then upload it to -proposed and ask the release guys to block migration so that we wait for all the autopkgtests; sounds ok? | 06:46 |
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| jibel | Good morning | 07:55 |
| Laney | pitti: you don't see the segfault-on-quit problems? | 09:00 |
| Laney | I saw it e.g. with gedit, epiphany | 09:00 |
| Laney | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690118 | 09:00 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 690118 in general "Crash when closing last tab of a window using Ctrl-w" [Normal,New] | 09:00 |
| pitti | Laney: there was one failed test case in app-info, which I just uploaded a fix for | 09:01 |
| pitti | (due to one of our patches) | 09:01 |
| pitti | Laney: trying | 09:01 |
| Laney | perhaps that is fixed in .4; I just tried .3 | 09:01 |
| pitti | Laney: I tried in gedit; closing two tabs | 09:02 |
| pitti | no crash here | 09:02 |
| Laney | let me try | 09:02 |
| pitti | the bug report is very unspecific, though | 09:02 |
| Laney | hm, not in svn? | 09:03 |
| pitti | Laney: no, I thought Debian doesn't want development releases? | 09:03 |
| Laney | I committed .3 there and nobody complained :P | 09:04 |
| Laney | didn't upload it yet though admittedly | 09:04 |
| pitti | oh, ok; then I can add my .4 stuff there, of course | 09:04 |
| * Laney builds .4 | 09:05 | |
| pitti | Laney: oh, I see a segfault when quitting gedit | 09:07 |
| pitti | not when closing the tabs | 09:07 |
| Laney | ah, yes, the bug is confusingly worded in that respect | 09:07 |
| pitti | Laney: sorry, I didn't notice that you already packaged .3; let me check my remaining delta | 09:08 |
| pitti | Laney: e. g. debian/rules still sets $G_HOME | 09:08 |
| Laney | yeah I left that for now for compatibility | 09:09 |
| pitti | oh, you mean you left the patch | 09:09 |
| pitti | ok | 09:09 |
| pitti | I dropped it in the PPA | 09:09 |
| Laney | there's a couple of packages that make use of it | 09:09 |
| pitti | Laney: mbiebl just pinged me about pre-release in svn, he was a bit surprised | 09:18 |
| Laney | oh, I thought he was aware as he saw me committing the other stuff | 09:18 |
| Laney | ah, he is here | 09:18 |
| Laney | mbiebl: ? (I don't mind uploading it to Ubuntu only if you'd prefer) | 09:19 |
| pitti | Laney: ok, I committed my updates to SVN now | 09:19 |
| pitti | that reverts my dropping of $G_HOME | 09:19 |
| pitti | (i. e. not commit it to SVN) | 09:19 |
| Laney | merci | 09:19 |
| pitti | that was .4, symbol update, fix broken test by 92_revert_appinfo_command_line.patch, and dropping 08_disable_gapplication_basic_test.patch | 09:20 |
| Laney | excellent | 09:20 |
| Laney | I think des_rt was looking into that other crasher | 09:21 |
| mbiebl | Laney: since exp has become somewhat of a staging ground for 3.6 during freeze, I guess we'd need another branch for pre-releases | 09:22 |
| mbiebl | that said, pitti ist that symbols file breakage fixed by the above? | 09:22 |
| pitti | mbiebl: we actually want to run GNOME 3.6 with glib 3.5, FYI | 09:22 |
| pitti | (but yes, in general it would be cleaner to have another branch) | 09:23 |
| pitti | mbiebl: the removed symbols didn't come back, if you mean that | 09:23 |
| mbiebl | hm, ok. | 09:23 |
| Laney | the "accidentally exported" ones? | 09:23 |
| Laney | (per NEWS) | 09:23 |
| mbiebl | g_menu_iter something | 09:23 |
| Laney | yeah | 09:24 |
| mbiebl | ah, ok. so they were supposed to be private | 09:24 |
| Laney | indeed | 09:24 |
| mbiebl | http://codesearch.debian.net confirms that they weren't used outside of glib | 09:26 |
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| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | chrisccoulson: top of the morning to you ;) | 10:19 |
| chrisccoulson | hi czajkowski :) | 10:20 |
| * Laney emerges from the rabbit hole | 11:15 | |
| czajkowski | Laney: lost in snow and a selection box were you | 11:16 |
| Laney | the snow is now terrifying ice, and no selection box just yet :P | 11:17 |
| Laney | been attempting to backport gstreamer 1.0 to pidgin | 11:17 |
| Laney | muchos upstream commits | 11:17 |
| czajkowski | no snow here today :) | 11:18 |
| xnox | Laney: the webcam in ubiquity, I can get it to work. With old ubiquity, I just *gasp* install ubiquity-frontend-gtk package on my machine and edit "ubi-webcam.py" to be "AFTER=language" with priority 13. | 11:25 |
| xnox | from command line launch "$ ubiquity" (it may or may not ask for sudo) | 11:26 |
| xnox | and then click next and get the webcam page. | 11:26 |
| xnox | With current ubiquity - it just works & I can take a picture of myself =))) | 11:26 |
| Laney | nice | 11:26 |
| xnox | with your branch proposal, I cannot. | 11:26 |
| Laney | I didn't know you could launch it like that | 11:26 |
| Laney | I told you I couldn't test it | 11:26 |
| Laney | will take a look | 11:26 |
| xnox | well, I tried the demo & the mvo's ubiquity standalone plugin launcher. Until I came up with this "hack" =) | 11:27 |
| xnox | Laney: just don't try to reinstall your machine this way it may crash or wipe your data =P | 11:27 |
| xnox | Laney: i am guessing that the detection function to check if webcam is .available() might not be working as advertised. Do you have a webcam though to use these hacks? =))) | 11:28 |
| Laney | yeah | 11:28 |
| * xnox can be remote webcam face =) | 11:28 | |
| xnox | ah ok. | 11:28 |
| Laney | you can work on it if you want though :P | 11:28 |
| xnox | nah =) busy patch piloting | 11:29 |
| tkamppeter | I got my Pandaboard yesterday, and Raring actually works on it, X works, but with black screen on my Eizo monitor and with actual display on a Sony Bravia 720p TV from 2007. | 11:57 |
| mlankhorst | are you using the same connector on the pandaboard for both? | 12:00 |
| tkamppeter | mlankhorst, for the TV I used the left one (HDMI), for the monitor I tried both (HDMI and DVI). The input of the monitor is DVI, the input of the TV is HDMI. | 12:04 |
| mlankhorst | what's in /proc/cmdline btw | 12:06 |
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| tkamppeter_ | mlankhorst: 'ro quiet splash root=UUID=2f71c452-1e4e-4bc2-bb9e-bfe731459b05' | 12:25 |
| tkamppeter_ | mlankhorst, I booted now connected to my monitor via the right output (DVI). | 12:26 |
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| larsu | morning attente, did you see bug #1078694 ? | 13:35 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1078694 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu) "Modal dialog broken on Unity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078694 | 13:35 |
| larsu | I'm wondering if we even should disable the menu when a modal dialog pops up | 13:35 |
| larsu | aren't modal dialogs out of fashion anyway? | 13:36 |
| attente | morning larsu, i haven't seen that yet | 13:36 |
| larsu | mpt, what do you think about this bug^^? (the gist of it is: should the global menu be disabled when a modal dialog pops up) | 13:36 |
| mpt | larsu, (1) absolutely, and (2) it's a duplicate, conscioususer can tell you where the original is. :-) | 13:37 |
| larsu | mpt, thank you :) | 13:38 |
| larsu | attente, I assume we're not doing that right now? | 13:40 |
| larsu | shouldn't be too hard from the gtk side, just listen to changes in menubar sensitivity | 13:40 |
| attente | i can take a look at it | 13:41 |
| larsu | thanks :)O | 13:42 |
| larsu | attente, okay, just marked as a dup: bug #674605 is the "real" one | 13:45 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 674605 in Application Menu Indicator "Transient window wrongly shows menus for its parent" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674605 | 13:45 |
| larsu | attente, by the way: did you fix that empathy bug? (that kept me from trying out your ppa long-term) | 13:46 |
| attente | larsu, yep :) | 13:46 |
| attente | larsu: but now it's a packaging issue | 13:46 |
| larsu | haha | 13:46 |
| * larsu loves debian | 13:46 | |
| larsu | surely someone in this channel can help you :) | 13:47 |
| attente | i believe seb128 is away today, ha | 13:47 |
| mpt | attente, just disable all the menus temporarily, don't hide them altogether | 14:11 |
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| Sweetshark | huh? no seb? outragious! | 14:15 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: he's sleeping | 14:16 |
| didrocks | hey :) | 14:16 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: I can wake him up if you want ;) | 14:16 |
| didrocks | (roomie at SFO) | 14:16 |
| didrocks | he doesn't believe in jetlag and it works for him :) | 14:16 |
| czajkowski | wait he actually sleep | 14:16 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: it's kind of 6:15 also :) | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | ah should be getting up so, :p | 14:17 |
| didrocks | ahah, not sure he would appreciate :) | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | ah Toshiba support, please reinstall windows and your machine will be fine *wallop* | 14:17 |
| didrocks | ahah | 14:18 |
| larsu | attente, hm, this means going through all actions and calling set_enabled... but maybe desrt has a better idea :) | 14:18 |
| larsu | desrt, ^^ | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | didrocks: it's lucky they emailed me that rather than a phone call or I'd be having words with them | 14:19 |
| pitti | Laney: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+packages has built packages, FYI | 14:19 |
| pitti | Laney: I needed to kick the amd64 build for a race condition in the tests | 14:20 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: heh, I can imagine ;) | 14:20 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: hey, dont make the seb angry and then blame me. no fair! | 14:23 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: ok, I'll tell him that you insisted on me to wake him up, but I'm a good friend and didn't do it :p | 14:24 |
| Sweetshark | czajkowski: see how the french are teaming up on me! ^^ | 14:25 |
| didrocks | heh | 14:26 |
| czajkowski | hah | 14:26 |
| czajkowski | it's the french way :p | 14:26 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: Be warned that I have a few tricky libreoffice uploads in my sleeve and if you are not careful you will end up sponsoring them. justsaying. | 14:26 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: oh no /o\ | 14:27 |
| Sweetshark | muhaha! | 14:27 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: I have some names of people who should sponsor your work :p | 14:27 |
| czajkowski | Sweetshark: packaged all better are they :p | 14:27 |
| didrocks | I think they commented on a meeting :) | 14:27 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: hrhr | 14:27 |
| * mlankhorst installs libreoffice on Sweetshark | 14:27 | |
| * Sweetshark lists heavily, almost fall from his chair but then regains balance. | 14:29 | |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: actually that is kinda the topic I wanted to ping seb about. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1037111 has a list of 20 backported patches for precise (outside of upstream microreleases as 3.5/precise is EOL upstream) and a testbuild and I need victims^Wcareful testers for that SRU. | 14:32 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1037111 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] LibreOffice 3.5.7 for precise" [High,In progress] | 14:32 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1099857 I thought I would cheer you up with this one | 14:32 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1099857 in ubuntuone-music-store "U1MS Player doesn't work in FF on the Nexus 7" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:32 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: oh nice! I'll tell him about it if you don't manage to get some time online together :) | 14:33 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: yeah, well. I didnt fill the full SRU form for each bug (would just take too long), but made oneline rationale for each patch. | 14:35 |
| desrt | larsu: disagree | 14:36 |
| desrt | larsu: if we want not to show menus (or to disable them) when a transient is shown, we ought to do just that | 14:36 |
| desrt | on the unity side | 14:36 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: hum, I think they will ask you for the SRU process on each bugs to be followed | 14:36 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: but let's check that with your sponsor :) | 14:36 |
| larsu | desrt, how would unity know that a dialog is modal? | 14:37 |
| desrt | the dialog isn't exporting any menus | 14:37 |
| desrt | it's setting transient-for | 14:37 |
| desrt | and unity (or bamf?) is following that back to the parent | 14:37 |
| desrt | it should just stop doing that | 14:37 |
| larsu | well then the menus would be hidden | 14:38 |
| larsu | instead of disabled | 14:38 |
| desrt | we want them disabled, not hidden? | 14:38 |
| larsu | ya | 14:38 |
| larsu | mpt, right? ^^ | 14:38 |
| desrt | hm. | 14:39 |
| desrt | load empty action groups into the widget's muxer | 14:39 |
| mpt | right | 14:39 |
| desrt | that'll disable them :) | 14:39 |
| larsu | that will cause roughly as much dbus traffic as disabling them one by one | 14:39 |
| larsu | actually, might even be more, because you need to copy the real actions back | 14:40 |
| desrt | larsu: no. on the unity side. | 14:40 |
| desrt | there should be no changes made in the app | 14:40 |
| larsu | oh | 14:40 |
| larsu | OH! | 14:40 |
| desrt | native GMenuModel apps won't be doing this | 14:40 |
| larsu | yeah that works | 14:40 |
| larsu | desrt, why not? | 14:41 |
| desrt | why would they? | 14:41 |
| mpt | because their items continue working unless specified otherwise? | 14:41 |
| larsu | because dialogs don't have a menu? | 14:41 |
| desrt | from their viewpoint the menubar becomes inaccessible because it's part of the window and the modal dialog popped over it | 14:41 |
| Sweetshark | didrocks: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcmis/0.3.0-1~ubuntu2 <- do you see any obvious reason, why this is still in -proposed? It blocks uploading LibreOffice 4.0 to raring. | 14:41 |
| mpt | ah | 14:41 |
| desrt | we're the ones that pulled it out... | 14:42 |
| larsu | right, so it's the same use-case | 14:43 |
| didrocks | Sweetshark: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt | 14:43 |
| didrocks | is it a soname change? | 14:43 |
| didrocks | I guess you need to rebuild all rdepends | 14:43 |
| didrocks | the system won't create rdepends | 14:43 |
| pitti | hey desrt | 14:45 |
| desrt | pitti: hi | 14:45 |
| desrt | pitti: thanks for the gtk-doc catch | 14:45 |
| pitti | desrt: no worries; I've just sent a set of patches to Tim to fix the gstreamer failures | 14:46 |
| pitti | one of these days we'll have that stuff work! *dream* | 14:46 |
| desrt | which ones? | 14:46 |
| desrt | were they using GLIB_DEPRECATED or something? | 14:46 |
| pitti | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/JHBuild%20Gnome/ :) | 14:46 |
| desrt | looks like the last build worked? | 14:47 |
| pitti | desrt: you mean for gtk-build? yes, apparently the "extern" thingy appeared in glib after that | 14:48 |
| pitti | in my jhbuild it only started a few days ago | 14:48 |
| desrt | i have an interesting catch-22 here. my gtk-doc always builds against my system glib :) | 14:48 |
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| Sweetshark | didrocks: hmm, am I allowed to install a *.deb on a porterbox? Otherwise I have a chicken-and-egg-problem: I cant testbuild LO on the arm-porterbox because I cant install the libcmis debs there and I cant get the libcmis debs installed from raring/main as it will stick in -proposed until I upload libreoffice. | 14:55 |
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| didrocks | Sweetshark: hum, that would be a question for jibel or pitti? I'm familiar with porterbox TBH | 14:56 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: oui, tu peux | 14:57 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: you can run sudo apt-get {update,install} in the schroots | 14:57 |
| pitti | ah, no, not dpkg, just apt-get | 14:57 |
| pitti | do these things have -proposed apt sources? | 14:58 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: thats not what I need, I need dpkg or -proposed | 14:58 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: that smells like prodding #is then | 14:58 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: I dont think they do. As I did update and still dont have libcmis-0.3.0, which is in proposed. | 14:59 |
| Sweetshark | ;) | 14:59 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: apt-cache policy libcmis-0.3.0 tells you | 14:59 |
| pitti | so yes, c'est l'heure de #is | 15:00 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: thanks. already pinged. | 15:01 |
| larsu | kenvandine, thanks for looking at the telepathy-indicator MRs. I approved yours, is autolanding set up for it or should I merge manually? | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | larsu, it isn't, you can merge it | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | larsu, thanks! | 15:13 |
| larsu | kenvandine, okay will do. Did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/telepathy-indicator/+bug/1098549 | 15:14 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1098549 in Telepathy Indicator "Chat windows should always be openend automatically (in the background)" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:14 |
| larsu | it's blocking a couple of other patches I have | 15:14 |
| larsu | (but it's not super-important) | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | ugh | 15:15 |
| kenvandine | larsu, empathy sees the channel request at the same time as tp-indicator, if it is running | 15:17 |
| larsu | kenvandine, ah, right, because empathy is also an approver. This doesn't fix the mein issue though: we want the chat window to pop up in the background but still have something in the indicator | 15:18 |
| larsu | afaics, telepathy doesn't have a way to provide for that | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | i don't think it does | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | the way we trigger empathy to raise the window is by approving it | 15:19 |
| larsu | yep, but that removes the message from the queue | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | empathy does know if the message is pending though, if the window/tab isn't focused it doesn't get cleared | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | i think | 15:20 |
| larsu | right, that works when the window is already open | 15:20 |
| larsu | not for the first time though | 15:20 |
| larsu | looks like we have to move messagingmenu support into empathy after all, but I'd really like to avoid that | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | because the window gets focus | 15:20 |
| larsu | no, not when you tell it through telepathy that this wasn't a user action | 15:21 |
| larsu | it will then open in the background (90% of the time :( ) | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | ok, then maybe we can handle that | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | right now i think we only manage the pending messages on the observer | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | maybe we can wire that up differently in the approver | 15:22 |
| larsu | that would work from the indicator side, but empathy doesn't tell us when the window eventually does get focus | 15:22 |
| kenvandine | yes it does | 15:23 |
| larsu | it does? Cool! | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | look at the observer code | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | i think :) | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | telepathy keeps them in some pending queue | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | until the chat gets focus | 15:23 |
| larsu | I think it doesn't, because we've already approved it | 15:23 |
| larsu | I'll definitely have another look | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | please do | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | i think we consider it handled when we approve it | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | but then we start observing that channel | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | and we check for pending messages | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | maybe we can make that hand off differently | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | i haven't looked at that code in ages, but that feature in tp-glib was added at my request | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:25 |
| larsu | oh, neat | 15:25 |
| * larsu is a bit annoyed at the complexity of telepathy | 15:25 | |
| kenvandine | so maybe when we approve it, we don't clear it | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | and start checking for pending | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | before we clear | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | yeah... it is very complex | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | but also very cool :) | 15:26 |
| larsu | hehe | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | love to hate it :) | 15:26 |
| Laney | xnox: can you give me some more detail on how ubi failed for you please? seems to wfm: http://ubuntuone.com/4pLqMf5Q68ivybJLyd2C8g :-) | 16:26 |
| Laney | thanks for the exciting way to test it btw | 16:27 |
| Laney | installing ubiquity in a running system feels naughty | 16:27 |
| xnox | it's a .deb so why not =) | 16:27 |
| xnox | Laney: looks awesome! for me the viewport had "half of the language selection widget" from the previous page. but looks good =) so good to merge I guess ;-) | 16:28 |
| xnox | Laney: haha you use lastpass?! | 16:28 |
| Laney | maybe I have some stray gstreamer stuff installed? | 16:28 |
| xnox | maybe I didn't have enough installed? | 16:29 |
| Laney | should all be deps though | 16:29 |
| Laney | but you'd get something in the terminal if that's the case I suppose | 16:29 |
| Laney | also yeah, lastpass rules ;-) | 16:29 |
| xnox | meh, let's upload and see what happens, there are a few people who have webcams and can test iso images. | 16:30 |
| * Laney ph33rs | 16:30 | |
| Laney | but ok | 16:30 |
| * Laney always feels compelled to make stupid faces while testing webcam stuff | 16:31 | |
| xnox | I am dissapoint that nexus4 doesn't have usb host otg & i can't put yubikey into my phone =( | 16:31 |
| ogra_ | you are one of the lucky ones ? | 16:32 |
| * ogra_ would be happy to be able to complain about nexus4 | 16:33 | |
| xnox | ogra_: haha =) I even got two, and sold one ;-) | 16:34 |
| Laney | you need a yubikey neo! | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | evil! | 16:34 |
| xnox | Laney: that would be awesome =) | 16:34 |
| xnox | Laney: /me has three yubikeys already.... | 16:35 |
| Laney | heh | 16:35 |
| Laney | $50 ... | 16:35 |
| xnox | We have sold out of our initial production runs; we are shipping YubiKey NEO in 5 - 7 weeks. | 16:36 |
| xnox | meh | 16:36 |
| miha | on ubuntu 10.04, evolution now complains about gmail imap ssl cert being "bad", while openssl s_client -CApath /etc/ssl/certs -connect imap.gmail.com:993 works fine <- what am i doing wrong (didn't change anything) | 16:39 |
| qengho | Hey, have we a meeting now? | 16:40 |
| jpds | miha: Don't use openssl, it doesn't do cert verification. | 16:40 |
| jpds | miha: Try gnutls-cli | 16:40 |
| Laney | qengho: I was assuming there wouldn't be one since people are away | 16:44 |
| qengho | Ah well. My status: | 16:45 |
| qengho | [desktop-r-chromiumbrowser-improvements] 6/12 DONE 2/12 deferable | 16:45 |
| qengho | - chromium-browser v23 released for all stable Ubuntu. Fixes lots, but introduces one obvious brown-paper-bag bug. :( | 16:45 |
| qengho | - Preparing v24 right now. Should release after #webapps patches are ported. | 16:45 |
| qengho | - Getting ARMv7 working so we can release on raring. NEON assumptions in build cause problems. | 16:45 |
| qengho | - Starting beta PPA process to get ahead of releases, so there's no release delay. #webapps on board with patching beta instead of stable. | 16:45 |
| qengho | EOF | 16:45 |
| kenvandine | yay for getting ahead :) | 16:45 |
| qengho | Yeah. | 16:45 |
| Laney | ah, you're waiting for armhf to be fixed before updating raring? | 16:46 |
| Laney | I noticed yesterday that it was behind Quantal | 16:46 |
| qengho | Laney: Yes. That's a policy requirement. | 16:46 |
| Laney | well, it's already being held in raring-proposed because of the failure | 16:47 |
| miha | jpds: - The hostname in the certificate matches 'imap.gmail.com'. | 16:48 |
| miha | - Peer's certificate issuer is unknown | 16:48 |
| miha | - Peer's certificate is NOT trusted | 16:48 |
| cyphermox | miha: the ca chain is incomplete. is ca-certificates installed? (in case it wouldn't be for some reason) | 16:48 |
| cyphermox | or the new gmail certs are signed with a CA that isn't shipped in 10.04 | 16:49 |
| miha | installed newest version | 16:50 |
| mlankhorst | oh right | 16:50 |
| cyphermox | miha: can you pastebin the output of openssl s_client -verify 6 -CApath /etc/ssl/certs -connect imap.gmail.com:993 ? | 16:51 |
| cyphermox | (I added -verify 6) | 16:52 |
| qengho | miha: and specify what country you're in. | 16:52 |
| cyphermox | miha: btw; pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntu.com in case you're not familiar with this | 16:52 |
| mlankhorst | trying to get kernel fixes upstreamed, working on bugs related to lts stack for 12.04.2 release, trying to get my reservation changes reviewed again, hopefully for inclusion this time. | 16:53 |
| miha | ok | 16:53 |
| mlankhorst | EOF | 16:53 |
| xnox | Laney: do you use lastpass on your mobile? and how does that work? | 16:53 |
| Laney | xnox: I swear that OTG worked before but it doesn't now | 16:53 |
| Laney | perhaps a newer cyanogen broke it | 16:53 |
| cyphermox | xnox: Laney: is that why you mentioned the yubikey NEO? | 16:53 |
| Laney | but I just used it to c+p some passwords when setting up apps | 16:54 |
| Laney | yes | 16:54 |
| cyphermox | hmm | 16:54 |
| cyphermox | I never thought of this | 16:54 |
| xnox | Laney: ack. | 16:54 |
| miha | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1534747/ so who's hacking me? :) | 16:54 |
| cyphermox | hmm | 16:55 |
| cyphermox | unless there is something broken in how evo tries to speak TLS? | 16:57 |
| miha | http://www.wolfey.si/tmp/gmailssl.jpg here screenshot | 16:57 |
| cyphermox | miha: could you open a bug on launchpad and add a screenshot of the exact | 16:58 |
| cyphermox | ah! | 16:58 |
| miha | cyphermox: which goverment is trying to spy on me? :p | 16:58 |
| cyphermox | meh | 16:59 |
| cyphermox | I guess evo just doesn't do ssl quite right; it wouldn't be especially surprising | 16:59 |
| mlankhorst | NOT THE CORRECT ONE | 16:59 |
| mlankhorst | I like how people get angry about chinese spies | 16:59 |
| miha | cyphermox: i'm surprised cause it worked up to today | 16:59 |
| miha | update? expired cert? | 17:00 |
| miha | new cert from google :) | 17:00 |
| miha | just when i got home 2 hours ago i got this | 17:00 |
| miha | i could add exception, but i'm well paranoid ;) | 17:01 |
| mlankhorst | run in chrome, see if it complains | 17:02 |
| miha | chrome does imap? | 17:03 |
| mlankhorst | oh right | 17:03 |
| cyphermox | miha: that's interesting, it's indeed not the same cert | 17:06 |
| mlankhorst | miha: oh if you think you're paranodi.. would you rather have the us government or the chinese government spy on you | 17:07 |
| miha | mlankhorst: chinese. i dont plan to go there anytime soon. :) | 17:08 |
| miha | we in nato, so usa is more dangerous ;) | 17:08 |
| cyphermox | mlankhorst: do we really need to have this kind of conversation here? | 17:08 |
| mlankhorst | :D | 17:08 |
| cyphermox | miha: what about the IP of imap.gmail.com, what do you get from your location? | 17:08 |
| cyphermox | dig imap.gmail.com | 17:08 |
| miha | cyphermox: | 17:09 |
| miha | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1534781/ | 17:09 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: If you have a minute, could you have a look at the 3.6.4 backport for precise, that boaz did at: https://launchpad.net/~bdcomp/+archive/backports/+packages ? | 17:10 |
| cyphermox | miha: might you be behind a captive portal of some sort? | 17:11 |
| miha | cyphermox: well i get same error if i turn my vpn on or off | 17:12 |
| miha | they are on different networks, so i doubt it | 17:13 |
| miha | hm | 17:13 |
| cyphermox | is your vpn encrypted, and actually replacing the default gateway? | 17:13 |
| miha | it's my openvpn server, tls, 2048 bit rsa, 128 bit blowfish, after http://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN#TLS-enabled_VPN | 17:15 |
| miha | well, i don't know how secure it is. but i doubt same attacker would set both local wifi and my vpn :p | 17:16 |
| miha | guess will try again at work | 17:18 |
| miha | thunderbird didn't complain about ssl | 17:40 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, the packaging diff looks reasonable, but i would prefer to use backported dependencies like cmis > 0.2 and a not cluttered changelog | 17:43 |
| ricotz | (so i wouldnt want to have a binary copy of it in the libreoffice ppa) | 17:44 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, i am hoping i will find a moment this week to look at it further | 17:45 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: yeah, I had short look at the changelog and would have uncluttered it a bit too. Note though, that I mailed boaz and giving him green light to copy that one over to the libreoffice PPA if he did some testing with it. | 17:51 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: those changes are nice to have, but not critical blockers IMHO. Lets keep boaz motivated, we can need every helping hand ;) | 17:52 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: In case you didnt notice I also backported some 20 patches on top of 3.5.7/precise and uploaded that to the libreoffice-3-5 PPA. This is in preparation of the bug 1037111 SRU. | 17:53 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1037111 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] LibreOffice 3.5.7 for precise" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037111 | 17:53 |
| ricotz | Sweetshark, oh, havent noticed that yet, thanks | 17:55 |
| Sweetshark | ricotz: If you want to contribute to the admittedly rather boring task of testing that package and verifying the fixes, you are most welcome of course ;) -- its 20 patches, thus I so far only created a one-line rationale for backporting them on bug 1037111 instead of filling the full SRU-form for all of them. | 18:00 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1037111 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] LibreOffice 3.5.7 for precise" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037111 | 18:00 |
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| tkamppeter | jasoncwarner, hi | 18:14 |
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| qengho | achiang: about that NSS bug, I don't suppose that machine has "strace" installed already? I want to see what "-e trace=file" says. | 21:06 |
| qengho | ...a lot, I'm sure. | 21:07 |
| qengho | Ah, nevermind. | 21:10 |
| tkamppeter_ | jasoncwarner, hi | 21:27 |
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| dobey | stgraber: hey. can you add ubuntuone-client-data to the ubuntuone package set? | 22:04 |
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| stgraber | dobey: can you send an e-mail to devel-permissions@lists.ubuntu.com so we have a papertrail for the addition? | 22:10 |
| dobey | ah, sure. | 22:11 |
| dobey | stgraber: sent | 22:12 |
| stgraber | dobey: added | 22:13 |
| dobey | stgraber: thanks! | 22:13 |
| jbicha | stgraber: hey, would you be able to help with https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2013-January/000440.html ? | 22:13 |
| stgraber | jbicha: let me confirm that ubuntu-desktop isn't auto-generated, otherwise any change I do to it will be reverted automatically | 22:14 |
| Laney | it is | 22:14 |
| jbicha | Laney: how do we fix that then? | 22:15 |
| jbicha | explicitly seed them in ubuntu-meta? | 22:15 |
| Laney | speak to cjwatson is the established procedure | 22:15 |
| jbicha | ok | 22:15 |
| jbicha | is robert_ancell around? | 22:16 |
| stgraber | right, just confirmed that it's one of those auto-generated. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+junk/packageset/files is the magic script | 22:16 |
| jasoncwarner | hey tkamppeter_ | 22:17 |
| Danawar3 | Hey ubuntu desktop i find my ubuntu keeps freezing and being very unresponsive could there be a reason for this and how would i troubleshoot such an issue? | 23:33 |
| bryce | (well, first step is stick around for a response...) | 23:48 |
| popey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRpxYaQMvcA | 23:55 |
| popey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRpxYaQMvcA | 23:55 |
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