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| Bluefoxicy | httperf --hog --num-conn 25000 --rate 10000 192.168.1.144 --timeout 5 | 02:01 |
| Bluefoxicy | ^^^^ this hangs. | 02:01 |
| Bluefoxicy | httperf --hog --num-conn 15000 --rate 10000 192.168.1.144 --timeout 5 | 02:01 |
| Bluefoxicy | ^^^ this does not. | 02:01 |
| Bluefoxicy | echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_reuse ; echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_recycle | 02:02 |
| Bluefoxicy | ^^^ Now neither hangs. | 02:02 |
| Bluefoxicy | Ubuntu 12.10 | 02:02 |
| pitti | good morning | 04:59 |
| pitti | stgraber, infinity: can you please remove the pygobject block? all relevant autopkgtests succeeded, except software-center which failed before (and I tested that manually) | 05:33 |
| infinity | pitti: Sure. | 05:40 |
| pitti | infinity: thanks | 05:50 |
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| pitti | hey mvo, guten Morgen | 07:50 |
| tuxinator | hi all | 08:21 |
| tuxinator | i cant figure out if mysql on ubuntu is compiled with openssl support or not | 08:21 |
| tuxinator | it looks like have_openssl is only a pointer to have_ssl in mysql? | 08:22 |
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| coalwater | ls | 09:09 |
| coalwater | lol | 09:09 |
| coalwater | how do i install package 'quickly' on debian | 09:09 |
| coalwater | can't find the ppa | 09:09 |
| xnox | @pilot in | 09:17 |
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| cjwatson | bdrung: Thanks (libibmad) | 10:06 |
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| ev | mpt: why is silent error types just restricted to errors that occur during logout/shutdown? Shouldn't all internal errors be hidden behind the "report previous internal errors" checkbox too? (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#error) | 10:56 |
| mpt | ev, it isn't, that's just the kind we'd been definitive about so far. That's why it's a bulleted list. :-) | 11:18 |
| ev | ah, right | 11:18 |
| ev | so can I add non-desktop applications to that list? | 11:19 |
| mpt | Which ones? | 11:19 |
| mpt | If pulseaudio crashes, for example, that's an internal error that's going to be obvious to the user. | 11:19 |
| mpt | Or network-manager. | 11:19 |
| mpt | (Assuming that they were using sound or networking at the time.) | 11:20 |
| ev | hm, yeah | 11:20 |
| ev | if we were getting so precise as to separate out those cases, would it not also make sense to give them special wording? | 11:21 |
| ev | so, "sorry but your ability to hear sound may be hindered" rather than "an internal application crashed" | 11:21 |
| ev | something to that effect | 11:21 |
| ev | I guess I'm just worried that sometimes they'll see "an internal error occurred" and sometimes they wont, and it wont be clear why that's the case | 11:22 |
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| mpt | ev, maybe. It depends how many we whitelist or blacklist, or whether there's a non-whitelist/-blacklist way of distinguishing them. | 11:26 |
| ev | sure | 11:26 |
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| mpt | ev, perhaps we could go through the leaderboard and sort the non-application packages into those two categories | 11:30 |
| mpt | as a way of deciding whitelist vs. blacklist | 11:31 |
| ev | sure | 11:31 |
| ev | whenever you'd like | 11:32 |
| mpt | Thursday? | 11:35 |
| ev | mpt: sure | 11:40 |
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| blami | hi, do I understand correctly that the output of complete multilib transition is that under /lib will be platform directory containing all libraries and current state is mixture of past and future, or am I missing whole thing? | 13:10 |
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| didrocks | hey cjwatson, infinity: jibel told me that libbamf3-1 was in universe? I don't really understand what happened: I promoted it to main (from proposed) Friday, just after the copy happened for the daily release. | 13:26 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: infinity: I think that's why britney migrated it (once we rebuilt the rdepends because of the soname change) to the main pocket | 13:27 |
| didrocks | but then, in main, it was back in universe? | 13:27 |
| didrocks | s/in main/ in the release pocket/ | 13:27 |
| xnox | didrocks: there is a bug where packages fall back into universe, after they are copied from -proposed to -release pocket. | 13:29 |
| xnox | =/ so most things need to be promoted twice. | 13:30 |
| didrocks | xnox: ah, so not related to the daily release at all. For future, it's the case everytime? So we need to repromote after the copy? | 13:30 |
| didrocks | ok, got it, good to know :) | 13:30 |
| didrocks | thanks xnox | 13:30 |
| xnox | didrocks: yes. daily release was all good. | 13:31 |
| xnox | np. | 13:31 |
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| roaksoax | howdy! I was wondering if anyone know if it is possible to determine is package A is to be installed (or has been installed) in package B postinst script? | 14:42 |
| pitti | roaksoax: you cannot install packages from postinst scripts, as apt/dpkg are not recursive | 14:42 |
| pitti | (the first will lock the dpkg db) | 14:42 |
| roaksoax | pitti: yeah I don't want to install a package I just want to determine whether another package has been installed or is to be installed (and if that's even possible) | 14:43 |
| pitti | roaksoax: oh sorry, you mean if it already is installed? dpkg -s pkgname >/dev/null 2>&1 | 14:43 |
| pitti | "about to be installed" would be looking into the future | 14:43 |
| pitti | you can check whether it's unpacked, but not configured yet by looking at the "Status:" line | 14:44 |
| roaksoax | pitti: right let's say I do: sudo apt-get install meta-package which installs package A and B. Package B gets installed first but I want to know whether A is to be installed or not | 14:44 |
| pitti | but apt doesn't unpack everything before it starts configuring, it does that stuff in batches | 14:44 |
| pitti | roaksoax: not sure what you want to do, but that's usually the kind of stuff triggers are for | 14:44 |
| pitti | so that an already installed package can do stuff when another package gets installed later on | 14:45 |
| roaksoax | pitti: alright cool! I;ll look into triggers. Thanks for the info :) | 14:45 |
| pitti | roaksoax: "man deb-triggers" FYI | 14:45 |
| roaksoax | thanks :) | 14:45 |
| tumbleweed | checking whether it's unpacked (instead of using triggers) just sounds like a recipe for non-deterministic behavior | 14:48 |
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| arges | tyhicks: hey. I can't seem to find bug 1052038 on the pending SRU queue. I think last time we spoke this was ready to go right? | 15:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1052038 in eCryptfs "ecryptfs_fnek_sig missing when login at the same time on cron session close" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052038 | 15:10 |
| sconklin | @pilot in | 15:18 |
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| cjwatson | blami: Basically yes | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | blami: (Though you mean multiarch, not multilib - multilib is something different) | 15:26 |
| hrw | sconklin: bug 1085392 maybe? | 15:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1085392 in Cross distro support for Samsung Chromebook (ARM based) "Merge Chromebook UCM profiles into ALSA packages" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085392 | 15:46 |
| arges | zul: hello! I'm looking at the cinder FTBFS failure. Looks like a patch that skips the failed tests wasn't enabled. Does it make sense to enable this patch 'skip_failed_tests' and fix the ftbfs? | 15:46 |
| sconklin | hrw: Sorry to say, I'm a kernel guy, and only tend to look at kernel bugs | 15:49 |
| hrw | sconklin: ok, was worth trying ;D | 15:50 |
| zul | arges: yes penable it | 15:55 |
| arges | zul: okey dokey | 15:56 |
| GuidoPallemans | I'm making a Reddit reader for the phone! Anyone care to join? https://github.com/brambram/UbuntuPhoneRedditApp | 15:59 |
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| xnox | hrw: now you can bug members of ~ubuntu-sru team to accept alsa packages from bug #1085392 E.g. infinity =) | 16:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1085392 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu Quantal) "Merge Chromebook UCM profiles into ALSA packages" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085392 | 16:46 |
| tyhicks | arges: Yes, it has been ready to go for quite a while now. It just isn't getting any attention from ~ubuntu-sru, IIUC. | 16:50 |
| arges | tyhicks: well I don't see it on the list: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html , so wasn't sure why that was | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | arges: Lets bug a member of the ~ubuntu-sru team to find out | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | infinity: Since you were pinged above for another SRU, can you take a look at bug 1052038 ? It has been sitting for a while now. | 16:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1052038 in eCryptfs "ecryptfs_fnek_sig missing when login at the same time on cron session close" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052038 | 16:53 |
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| dkessel | hello guys. i have a question: under which circumstances does the bluetooth indicator icon get added to the indicator bar? | 19:52 |
| dkessel | i am asking because i seem to have a false positive... | 19:52 |
| roadmr | cyphermox probably knows :) | 19:55 |
| cyphermox | dkessel: if there is a bluetooth type device | 20:02 |
| cyphermox | dkessel: it kind of surprises me; maybe you have a device somewhere that says it does bluetooth even if it doesn't | 20:02 |
| cyphermox | or if you're using some of those logitech dongles for mice and keyboards | 20:02 |
| dkessel | cyphermox, i have a dell netbook. they sell the bluetooth module as an addon. but i don't have it. but i guess that explains it somehow... | 20:03 |
| sarnold | does it work anyway? :) | 20:03 |
| cyphermox | no, you should actually have a bluetooth device for the indicator to show up ;) | 20:03 |
| dkessel | tbh i tried to use it :) | 20:04 |
| dkessel | but as i don't have the module.... nothing | 20:04 |
| cyphermox | dkessel: what does hciconfig return? | 20:04 |
| dkessel | cyphermox, nothing | 20:04 |
| cyphermox | O.o? | 20:04 |
| dkessel | do i need some parameters? | 20:05 |
| cyphermox | going to have to look at the code | 20:05 |
| cyphermox | no | 20:05 |
| dkessel | :) | 20:05 |
| cyphermox | if there is a device it should be listed there | 20:05 |
| dkessel | funny | 20:05 |
| sarnold | I have to click the indicator and "turn on bluetooth" to get output from hciconfig on my machine.. | 20:06 |
| infinity | Ditto. | 20:06 |
| infinity | Something's smart enough to know I have bluetooth, despite it being currently disabled/disconnected/whatever. | 20:06 |
| infinity | In fact, I can't even enable it from the indicator, cause it's hard-disabled by the machine. | 20:07 |
| dkessel | even if i do that, there's no output from hciconfig | 20:07 |
| roadmr | infinity: maybe something's dumb enough to assume you do; the smarts to know the device has to be enabled are yours :P | 20:07 |
| infinity | (But I still have the greyed-out indicator, until I undo my hardware rfkill) | 20:07 |
| slangasek | dkessel: what does 'rfkill list bluetooth' show? | 20:07 |
| roadmr | dkessel: udevadm info --export-db |grep -i blue, does that say anything? (this is how checkbox looks for bluetooth so I'm guessing no, but may be interesting) | 20:07 |
| dkessel | slangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1535302 | 20:09 |
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| stgraber | dkessel: can you paste the output of "dmesg"? | 20:10 |
| dkessel | roadmr, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1535311 | 20:11 |
| roadmr | dkessel: thanks! so it looks like rfkill may be used to decide whether to display the indicator? | 20:12 |
| dkessel | stgraber, dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1535314 | 20:13 |
| slangasek | roadmr: well, I think the indicator is displayed based on the presence of the underlying features that rfkill is also exposing | 20:14 |
| stgraber | thanks. So yeah, it looks like the applet is showing up when either you have a bluetooth device or the rfkill driver reports that you have one that can be turned on | 20:14 |
| roadmr | slangasek: well put, thanks :) | 20:14 |
| stgraber | not sure exactly how rfkill works, but I suspect it's getting the information from the firmware somehow (ACPI?) and that something's wrong somewhere in there | 20:15 |
| slangasek | dkessel: what's the output of 'ls -ld /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill3/device'? | 20:15 |
| dkessel | that takes a bit longer to type :) sec | 20:16 |
| dkessel | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 15 21:16 /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill3/device -> ../../../compal-laptop | 20:17 |
| slangasek | mmk | 20:17 |
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| slangasek | so either the hardware claims to have a bluetooth interface, or the compal-laptop module has a bug | 20:18 |
| stgraber | dkessel: sorry, those are long paths. "cat /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill3/device/device/vendor" and "/sys/class/rfkill/rfkill3/device/device/device" | 20:19 |
| dkessel | :D | 20:19 |
| dkessel | i just found a new use case for ubuntu one... :) | 20:20 |
| stgraber | the first one should give you the hardware vendor id, the second one should give you the hardware product id | 20:20 |
| * dkessel pastes command lines | 20:20 | |
| stgraber | oh, and I forgot cat in front of the second one, but you probably notice that ;) | 20:20 |
| dkessel | stgraber, file not found on first "vendor" | 20:21 |
| dkessel | stgraber, ...and another file not found on "device" | 20:22 |
| dkessel | shall i paste the contents of /sys/class/rfkill? | 20:23 |
| stgraber | ok, so based on what I'm seeing here, that'd mean that the driver isn't tied to a physical device (as /device/device should have pointed to the PCI or USB device) | 20:23 |
| stgraber | looks like a kernel bug to me... the compal-laptop driver always reports two rfkill entries even if the hardware isn't there | 20:25 |
| stgraber | I just tried it on my laptop with "modprobe compal-laptop force" (the force keyword is to bypass the DMI check) and I got two extra rfkill entries | 20:26 |
| dkessel | i would probably need help on how to properly file that bug | 20:27 |
| stgraber | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1535349/ | 20:27 |
| stgraber | dkessel: do "ubuntu-bug linux" on your machine, once you have the bug filed on Launchpad give me the bug number and I'll see if there's something that should be added | 20:28 |
| dkessel | stgraber, will do | 20:29 |
| dkessel | hmm... "it appears you are currently running a mainline kernel".... meh - apport won't let me report... i'm running raring | 20:31 |
| stgraber | dkessel: fun... then go directly to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug | 20:31 |
| stgraber | dkessel: and once the bug is filed, do "apport-collect <bug number>", that one should work without complaining too much | 20:32 |
| dkessel | launchpadlib would be part of ubuntu-dev-tools, i guess.... | 20:35 |
| hrw | xnox: thanks man! | 20:39 |
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| dkessel | stgraber: bug 1100004 . apport really didn't put much info in it... | 20:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1100004 in linux (Ubuntu) "compal-laptop reports bluetooth device, even if there is none" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100004 | 20:45 |
| stgraber | dkessel: posted a comment asking for a bunch more things that should help the kernel team get a fix matching your hardware | 20:52 |
| dkessel | stgraber: that sure spammed some people's mail folders :) well - thanks for the help! | 21:07 |
| stgraber | dkessel: oh, they're used to it ;) | 21:08 |
| dkessel | :D well I gotta go, see you :) | 21:09 |
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| romaxa | which channel is hosted for ubuntu-phone people? | 22:09 |
| sarnold | romaxa: I think #ubuntu-phone | 22:09 |
| romaxa | ;_) | 22:10 |
| GuidoPallemans | where can I file QtQuick Ubuntu.components bugs? | 22:17 |
| sconklin | @pilot out | 23:17 |
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| xnox | @pilot out | 23:30 |
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| * xnox is back from volleyball ;-) | 23:30 | |
| xnox | hrw: no problem. I accept payments in cider, monkey nuts and bird seeds =) | 23:30 |
| tkamppeter_ | Does someone know how one makes the Pandaboard boot from a USB stick? | 23:55 |
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