[00:02] <David23400> Hi , when i want to update or install VLC from software center i get a message just after typing my password which is : "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources"    any idea? (i'm on lubuntu)
[00:02] <escott> David23400, sounds like you are using a PPA that you havent imported the key for
[00:03] <David23400> what's PPA escott
[00:03] <escott> !ppa | David23400
[00:03] <SierraAR> Back sorry. Who wanted me to check the smart data?
[00:04] <escott> David23400, if its not a ppa then it may just be an unsigned package in universe
[00:04] <lauratika> hi everyone does any one knows a program to add effects on a video stream lioke changing the background for cheese or other video application?
[00:04] <daftykins> SierraAR: somebody, i understand the situation though. fire up the disk utility
[00:05] <SierraAR> Disk utility is up, I'm in the smart data screen now
[00:05] <daftykins> SierraAR: any errors?
[00:05] <daftykins> or warnings
[00:05] <SierraAR> Two lines are marked as 'Failing'
[00:05] <Kion1> When I try to install Google earth from their page, the software manager says a warning that this package does not comply with the quality ... any ideas?
[00:05] <daftykins> SierraAR: uh-oh, not a reallocated sectors one, by any chance?
[00:05] <_JuJuBee> I am using an HP8600 OfficeJetPro all in one and my scanner just started not working.  xsane does not see the device.  I can still print to it fine.  I am connected via USB (for scanning) and Ethernet (for printing)  CUPS Sees my printer/fax as well.
[00:05] <SierraAR> One is 'Reallocated Sector Count' Normalized: 133; Worst: 133; Threshold: 140; Value: 561 Sectors
[00:06] <daftykins> SierraAR: yeah that drive is toast.
[00:06] <escott> SierraAR, no great surprises. the disk is toast
[00:06] <SierraAR> Lovely.
[00:06]  * daftykins high fives escott for the same word use too XD
[00:06] <SierraAR> Does this normally happen within a few months of installing a Western Digital Blue series HDD or did someone have to have fubar'd this
[00:06] <daftykins> SierraAR: if it's a drive that came with a system, it'll be warranty pursuing time with the system manufacturer
[00:06] <SierraAR> It's not the drive that came with the system
[00:07] <SierraAR> That one died months ago
[00:07] <bobolopolis> SierraAR: if the drive is under warranty, i've never had problems with getting RMA's from WD
[00:07] <escott> David23400, each package is (supposed to be) cryptographically signed to make sure that when you install it that you aren't installing malware
[00:07] <daftykins> SierraAR: some drives can die quite quick. just setup a return on wdc.com , you'll have to register with their 'force' service
[00:07] <SierraAR> And no, it's not the laptop I use :P
[00:07] <escott> SierraAR, you said it was a brand new drive right. so RMA it
[00:07] <daftykins> SierraAR: stop me if you've done RMAs before
[00:07] <SierraAR> Within the past few months, I forget when exactly we bought it. Got it new off Amazon
[00:08] <SierraAR> daftykins, I've never done one before
[00:08] <escott> SierraAR, you clearly have never worked for UPS. if you had you would know that those small hard-drive boxes make the perfect backyard footballs
[00:08] <daftykins> SierraAR: ah ok. well you can do an advanced replacement, where they ship you a new drive first and they hold the $ against your credit card until you send in the dead one.
[00:09] <SierraAR> escott, Oh god, I've heard the horror stories. I'd hoped they were just stories
[00:09] <daftykins> SierraAR: start here: http://support.wdc.com/warranty/index_end.asp?lang=en
[00:10] <daftykins> SierraAR: you could try and go back to where you bought it from, but i'd recommend just going straight to WD
[00:10] <escott> SierraAR, some are some aren't. but the failure rate is very high at the beginning then tails off and then increases again at the end. just because it passes QC doesn't mean its good. it just means its cheaper to ship X many bad units and replace them than to test all units more completely
[00:10] <_Rocky_`> Networking problem. Router is able to ping machines. Machines are not able to ping each other. Machines are laptops connected by wireless. Any ideas would be great. Thank you in advance.
[00:11] <_Rocky_`> I have been banging my head over this. Had nowhere else to go :(
[00:11] <escott> _Rocky_`, are you using anything like radius?
[00:11] <SierraAR> daftykins, Bought it from amazon.com
[00:11] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: some wireless access points / routers have an option to isolate all wireless clients. has it ever worked?
[00:11] <SierraAR> Filling out the registration forms
[00:11] <daftykins> SierraAR: on amazon?
[00:11] <_Rocky_`> No. nothing special. Just a normal ubuntu 12.04 install on one lap and debian squeeze on another.
[00:12] <escott> _Rocky_`, not the laptops the router. is RADIUS enterprise WPA or isolation enabled?
[00:13] <SierraAR> daftykins, Forms on the wdc site you linked
[00:13] <_Rocky_`> daftykins: , escott : Thank you. I looked for AP Isolation on the router. There is no option. Its a basic home network model. There is no RADIUS on the router.
[00:13] <daftykins> ok cool
[00:13] <SierraAR> To create an RMA
[00:13] <escott> _Rocky_`, and what error messages do you get? (you are pinging by ip address correct?)
[00:14] <lauratika> hey
[00:14] <lauratika> hahahaha
[00:15] <daftykins> lauratika: sorry no thoughts about webcam cheese came to mind :P
[00:15] <_Rocky_`> escott: The IP is correct. But get something like <local ip>: Destination host unreachable on both machines
[00:15] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: can you show us the actual output?
[00:15] <_Rocky_`> escott: Also, arp -n shows route to router but the route to the other machine is incomplete.
[00:16] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: and both machines have an appropriate route to the router and aren't getting their via magic? lol
[00:16] <usr13> _Rocky_`: nmap
[00:16] <escott> _Rocky_`, why would arp show a route to the other ip. is it not on the same subnet?
[00:16] <SierraAR> Thanks for the help btw, escott  and daftykins and whoever else said to look at the SMART status
[00:16] <daftykins> SierraAR: np :) good luck with it
[00:16] <lauratika> daftykins: or any fx for video?
[00:18] <_Rocky_`> julian-delphiki: the error "From 192.168.64.101 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable"
[00:18] <_Rocky_`> escott: The are on the same subnet.
[00:18] <SierraAR> Hunting down the invoices for the dates of purchase now xD
[00:18] <daftykins> SierraAR: i had to do that :( used to be so much simpler, now all this drive registration hassle :S
[00:18] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: what is the model of the router
[00:18] <_Rocky_`> usr13: Thank you. will try nmap.
[00:18] <daftykins> lauratika: 'webcamstudio' ?
[00:19] <_Rocky_`> julian-delphiki: Cisco Linksys WAG54G2
[00:20] <lauratika> but streaming video i mean
[00:20] <daftykins> lauratika: what kind?
[00:20] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Cable-and-DSL/WAG320N-LAN-cleints-cannot-ping-WLAN-clients/m-p/398407?comm_cc=HSus&comm_lang=en#M17931
[00:21] <lauratika> cheese, guvcview etc
[00:21] <SierraAR> In the meantime, anybody know of a good tutorial for setting up a functional dual-boot between ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 64 bit? I cant find the tutorial I used last time
[00:22] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: guide says toggle AP isolation on then off again, or vice versa, as we recommended :>
[00:22] <escott> SierraAR, there is nothing different about win7 boot from say winXP
[00:22] <Kion1> SierraAR: Usually just insert a iso cd or usb and it will take you by the hand
[00:22] <julian-delphiki> daftykins: bingo :>
[00:22] <daftykins> julian-delphiki: i figure he missed it the last time, you know how those router web admins can be!
[00:22] <SierraAR> escott, Kion1, I do recall having to do some specific setup stuff for the boot manager to recognize both OS's
[00:23] <julian-delphiki> daftykins: for sure, overly complicated, <3 ddwrt.
[00:23] <blkadder> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[00:23] <_Rocky_`> daftykins: Thank you. But, I dont have an option for AP isolation at all.
[00:23] <SierraAR> Thanks blkadder
[00:23] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: there really should be, given it's a common Linksys model. :S
[00:24] <_Rocky_`> Or linksys has secretly hidden it from me. Its a conspiracy I tell ya.
[00:24] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: Wireless -> Advanced Wireless Settings
[00:24] <Scunizi> If you're in the know with OpenShot and I can ask a question or two of you please join me in #OpenShot_Question
[00:24] <julian-delphiki> Scunizi: thats not how this works, ask your question here
[00:24] <phunyguy> so I am back at this bug, I am trying to automount a user sshfs share, which is a specific folder on a remote SSH server, but no matter what I do, it mounts to sftp://remoteserver/home/username
[00:24] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: does the webadmin look like: http://vanilla.co.za/images/dslhelp/linksys/new/wireless_disabled.gif ?
[00:25] <_Rocky_`> julian-delphiki: Thats where I am looking. I have searched on the internet. Screenshots show AP Isolation. My router doesnt show that option.
[00:25] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: that's freaky. do you have the latest firmware on?
[00:25] <julian-delphiki> _Rocky_`: you may want to look at upgrading the firmware then
[00:25]  * daftykins high-fives julian-delphiki 
[00:25] <daftykins> julian-delphiki: i'll stop treading on your toes now :>
[00:25] <escott> phunyguy, sftp://blah blah is a url not a mountpoint
[00:26] <_Rocky_`> daftykins: Most of the UI is same. Its all blue though where its violet in the screenshot.
[00:26] <phunyguy> escott that is the end I am talking about
[00:26] <Scunizi> julian-delphiki: trying my best to keep the ubuntu channel for ubuntu.. but here goes.. Once you've cut a clip several times how do you save the individual cut segments?
[00:26] <phunyguy> it ignores what I tell the remote end to be
[00:26] <escott> phunyguy, is sftp://remoteserver/home/username not the correct url? what would be the correct url?
[00:26] <SierraAR> daftykins, It says 'no limited warranty' on the drive now that it's registered
[00:26] <Soelen> hello everyone, quick question! Watching a unix/linux tutorial right now and he suggested to mount all partitions on /opt, I always thought /mnt is here for, what's the difference?
[00:26] <SierraAR> Not sure what that means
[00:26] <phunyguy> escott, even if I go to sftp://remoteserver/media/storage/users/blah it still bookmarks sftp://remoteserver/home/blah
[00:27] <phunyguy> does the same thing in Gigolo
[00:27] <phunyguy> I'd use Samba, but it is god-awful slow with gvfs
[00:27] <daftykins> SierraAR: hrmm, there's a little tooltip nearby that explains that
[00:27] <julian-delphiki> phunyguy, and what does your fstab look like
[00:27] <_Rocky_`> I think it should be the firmware guys. Thank you very much for your help. Will upgrade the firmware and come back with news. I knew I could trust the ubuntu channel ;)
[00:27] <daftykins> _Rocky_`: good luck!
[00:28] <escott> phunyguy, is /media/storage/users/blah symlinked to /home/blah on the remote
[00:28] <blkadder> Trust us at your own peril!
[00:28] <phunyguy> escott, no.
[00:28] <SierraAR> Bleh, website says I can't file an RMA for the drive because it's not under warranty
[00:28] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, no fstab, this is gvfs
[00:28] <kvothetech> julian-delphiki: bean from enders shadow?
[00:28] <escott> Soelen, opt would be a strange place. historically there have been two places /mnt and /media. the second for removable the first for non-removable. /opt would not be a reasonable mountpoint
[00:28] <julian-delphiki> phunyguy: oh, i thought you said something about sshfs, so i wasn't sure.
[00:29] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, I am mounting a share via SSH
[00:29] <julian-delphiki> okay, but thats not sshfs
[00:29] <phunyguy> was probably the wrong word
[00:29] <escott> !hier | Soelen
[00:29] <phunyguy> :)
[00:29] <escott> julian-delphiki, does sshfs use scp directives instead of the sftp module?
[00:29] <daftykins> SierraAR: doh, to amazon then i guess :S sounds like it wasn't a legit drive
[00:29] <Soelen> escott: ubottu: thanks a lot, I guess it's in the nature of solaris then
[00:30] <SierraAR> Whats odd is, looking at the invoices
[00:30] <SierraAR> We bought two drives, exactly the same, from amazon, a few days apart. One was $10 more than the other o.O
[00:30] <escott> SierraAR, even if it is outside of warranty you may still be within your local governments legally mandated period of merchantability and could charge back for a defective product
[00:30] <Soelen> ubottu: thanks for the link buddy, reading it
[00:30] <Scunizi> In openshot, after slicing up a clip, how do you save the edited segments in their own files or put them in the project file box for later use?
[00:30] <SierraAR> escott, This one was purchased Nov 17, 2012. I have no idea what the law here in Ohio is for that
[00:31] <phunyguy> escott, what are your thoughts?
[00:31] <phunyguy> with the SCP and sftp thing
[00:31] <escott> phunyguy, they are different. i dont know what method sshfs uses
[00:31] <phunyguy> ahh, well like I said, was probably the wrong word.  I am going to sftp://url/to/share
[00:31] <daftykins> SierraAR: was it actually amazon or one of their sellers?
[00:31] <phunyguy> in Nautilus
[00:31] <SierraAR> daftykins, amazon.com
[00:31] <escott> phunyguy, yes
[00:32] <phunyguy> and then creating a bookmark from there
[00:32] <daftykins> SierraAR: ah well, just follow their returns procedure i guess. state 'bad sectors' and refuse to accept that's normal because it's never good :D
[00:32] <phunyguy> brb, trying a quick restart to finish updates
[00:34] <modifier> i have added a usb capture card....how do i know its recognized by system and drivers are installed for it ?
[00:34] <escott> SierraAR, in the future always stress test any hardware when you unbox it
[00:34] <phunyguy> back
[00:35] <escott> SierraAR, legally it probably takes you out of any possible RMA issues because you can just point to magnusun moss and ship it back to whereever you bought it from (even if that business is going OUT OF BUSINESS) and then chargeback on the CC
[00:36] <modifier> escott: have added a usb capture card....how do i know its recognized by system and drivers are installed for it ?
[00:36] <escott> SierraAR, but it also saves you from having to deal with getting your data off a failing drive and the risk of shipping confidential data back the manufacturer who might potentially sell the device as a refurb
[00:36] <SierraAR> escott, How do I stress test a drive?
[00:36] <phunyguy> yeah updates didn't cure it.
[00:36] <escott> modifier, you try and use it in an application
[00:37] <escott> !info bonnie++ | SierraAR
[00:37] <escott> SierraAR, also cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdX
[00:37] <julian-delphiki> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[00:37] <modifier> escott: suggest any application for capture card on linux....no app or driver from vendor for linux
[00:38] <escott> modifier, i have no idea. why are you asking me?
[00:39] <modifier> escott: u look most active at this time
[00:39] <modifier> in the channel
[00:39] <julian-delphiki> still, you should address the channel, not specific unrelated people
[00:39] <modifier> anyone
[00:39] <escott> modifier, and if i knew an answer i would have messaged you. i'm not prejudiced against people with nicknames that begin with "m"
[00:39] <julian-delphiki> unfortunately you're probably not going to have much luck unless there is an open source linux driver
[00:40] <SierraAR> escott: Drive isnt in the laptop anymore, it's sitting beside me so I can read off the S/N
[00:40] <escott> SierraAR, well that drive is dead so this is more of an "in the future"
[00:40] <_Rocky_``> modifier: lol
[00:40] <modifier> well if source code is availlable then i will compile it
[00:40] <joe9> I want to run a script on startup on ubuntu 12.04. I read about rc.local. my script has the start, stop, etc, and can belong in /etc/init.d
[00:41] <joe9> Is the recommended way still to run update-rc.d?
[00:41] <escott> SierraAR, since you bought something that was OEM and has no warranty, and are two months into ownership you might have a hard time claiming merchantability
[00:41] <SierraAR> OEM?
[00:41] <phunyguy> is there another type of filesystem besides cifs and sftp that work well from linux server to linux client in a gvfs environment?
[00:41] <julian-delphiki> phunyguy: actual SSHFS?
[00:41] <escott> SierraAR, original equipment manufacturer. ie not sold with the pretty box and usually has a lesser warranty
[00:41] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, does that work via nautilus/gigolo/gvfs?
[00:42] <phunyguy> It needs to be a per-user thing
[00:42] <phunyguy> I had a script but it got flaky when switching networks, etc.
[00:42] <julian-delphiki> wait, are you wanting to mount home dirs or something?
[00:42] <phunyguy> (vpn, non-vpn)
[00:42] <escott> julian-delphiki, is "actual sshfs" any different from sftp? what is the transport method of sshfs?
[00:43] <julian-delphiki> escott: I'm unsure, I just know its  FUSE file system
[00:43] <phunyguy> julian-delphiki, portions of /home symlinked, like ~/Music, ~/Videos - etc
[00:43] <escott> phunyguy, there is NFS
[00:43] <julian-delphiki> NFS is probably the best option
[00:43] <escott> julian-delphiki, you keep talking about sshfs as if it were NOT using sftp. I would think it probably does use sftp
[00:43] <phunyguy> hmmm....
[00:43] <julian-delphiki> escott: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[00:43] <phunyguy> let me ponder that for a bit
[00:44] <julian-delphiki> escott: actually, it looks like it uses w/e nautilus "ssh" connection uses
[00:44] <phunyguy> nautilus cannot handle nfs locations
[00:44] <escott> julian-delphiki, none of that states what protocol sshfs uses underneath. sftp is ssh
[00:44] <julian-delphiki> aware/
[00:44] <julian-delphiki> i'd say its lower level than doing it in a gui though
[00:45] <escott> julian-delphiki, phunyguy SSHFS is as I suspected sftp
[00:45] <escott> http://www.mcpressonline.com/system-administration/techtip-with-sshfs-remotely-mount-linux-file-systems-across-ssh.html
[00:45] <phunyguy> escott, yes.
[00:46] <phunyguy> escott, I had something similar, what will this get me?
[00:47] <escott> phunyguy, the whole sftp/sshfs confusion has got me confused as to what the question is.
[00:48] <phunyguy> escott, sorry, I am trying to accomplish what gigolo/nautilus/cifs give me with dynamic bookmarks, so when a connection is active, filesystems are mounted, per-user.
[00:48] <MK`> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to remember to set the sound device to my headphones when I plug them in? I need to keep doing it manually.
[00:48] <phunyguy> when using hard-mounts like in fstab, it prohibits my laptop from sleeping, and shutting down in a timely manner
[00:49] <phunyguy> MK`, version?
[00:49] <modifier> any good application for watching tv from capture card on linux....also how do i look that my capture card is recognized by system and drivers are installed for it ? how to look for any ardware connected to system is properly recognized ?
[00:49] <phunyguy> !info mythtv
[00:49] <MK`> phunyguy: 11.10
[00:49] <julian-delphiki> modifier: what is the model of the capture card
[00:49] <modifier> julian-delphiki: chip is TM5600
[00:50] <MAL-_> Hello, I'm having a weird issue with Ubuntu vs on Windows.. in Ubuntu 12.10 with unity if I right click the desktop then right click another location it simply closes the 1st context menu instead of opening the context menu in the second location.. has anyone noticed this too? It's like first right click open context, 2nd right click close context, 3rd open context. Ideally when I right click I'd like to get the context menu each time.
[00:50] <phunyguy> escott, also, the reason I wanted to avoid CIFS, is due to speed.  gvfs/cifs performance is horrid on wifi, and vpn
[00:50] <phunyguy> I can get 8-9MB/s with hard mounted samba shares, but 1.0MB/s with gvfs
[00:50] <modifier> julian-delphiki: also when connecting through usb...the front lid is getting on
[00:50] <phunyguy> escott it doesn't perform well at all.
[00:51] <julian-delphiki> modifier: it looks like many people have not really hard luck with that card
[00:51] <escott> phunyguy, im not sure there is a good solution with all the requirements you have stated
[00:52] <phunyguy> awww...
[00:52] <modifier> julian-delphiki: ohh,....can u find source code for driver ? i will try to compile and see if it works
[00:52] <julian-delphiki> modifier: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Trident_TM6000 is really the only information i can find
[00:52] <phunyguy> well, thanks anyway for your help.  I am hoping performance for cifs gets better, but I don't have my hopes up.  Been trying for years.
[00:52] <julian-delphiki> modifier: "In brief, while we want to fix the driver issues, it is recommend to avoid buying any devices with tm5600/tm6000/tm6010 (and DRX demod) chips."
[00:52] <Robsome> Hi all.
[00:53] <modifier> julian-delphiki: late warnings....now i am stuck with it :(
[00:53] <Robsome> Installing 12.10 as I type
[00:53] <Robsome> Only 2.5 hours remain:P
[00:54] <phunyguy> I have eaten my words, escott.  The updates must have triggered a speed increase with cifs.  Although it isn't 8-9MB/s, it is around 4-5MB/s
[00:54] <phunyguy> I guess it's tolerable.
[00:54] <phunyguy> thanks for your help, escott.
[00:55] <daftykins> MAL-_: that sounds tolerable enough to consider posting somewhere as a recommendation, doubt it's going to have people up in arms
[00:55] <AceFace> hello, all!
[00:56] <AceFace> is there anyone here with experience using KVM?
[00:56] <daftykins> AceFace: just ask away
[00:56] <MAL-_> daftykins, It's an annoyance but it's causing problems when working the channels in Mumble. I'm just wondering if there's any mouse tweak programs I can try or if mouse settings are as is in Ubuntu.
[00:56] <compdoc> AceFace, yeah
[00:56] <AceFace> compdoc: here is my issue: i.imgur.com/2g5bA.png
[00:56] <AceFace> http://i.imgur.com/2g5bA.png
[00:57] <gyre008> why does apt-get upgrade <package_name> upgades kernel I will never get...arrrgh
[00:57] <jrib> gyre008: it doesn't...
[00:57] <compdoc> what are you doing to get that error?
[00:57] <AceFace> i have ran "kvm-ok" and it says i can virtualiz hardware
[00:57] <bootkigftrgds> I got Empathy to load up on my Lubuntu netbook, but when I ask it to load 'an account' it just goes to system setting .. what am I doing wrong ?
[00:57] <AceFace> i am setting up a VM using virt-manager
[00:58] <AceFace> the gui tool
[00:58] <gyre008> well i just ran apt-get upgrade chef and the kernel has been upgraded too...wth
[00:58] <compdoc> does virt manager open?
[00:58] <escott> AceFace, and this message is coming from the guest
[00:58] <jrib> gyre008: that's doubtful
[00:58] <jrib> gyre008: are you sure  you didn't run "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[00:58] <AceFace> yes, infact i can open it and configure the guest VM, but at the last step it gives the error
[00:59] <AceFace> here is my lshw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1532944/
[00:59] <trolol> hello, can someone help me on fully purging fglrx?
[00:59] <gyre008> jrib: 100% positive
[00:59] <escott> AceFace, sounds like the client needs to load a kernel module?
[00:59] <AceFace> my CPU can virtualize hardware and its enabled in the bios
[00:59] <jrib> gyre008: what makes you say your kernel was upgraded?
[00:59] <gyre008> the output in the log ?
[00:59] <compdoc> AceFace, which mainboard?
[00:59] <jrib> gyre008: be more specific
[01:00] <AceFace> compdoc: M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
[01:00] <trolol> [Error]A previous installation of fglrx driver detected to be loaded.
[01:00] <trolol> User must uninstall existing fglrx driver
[01:00] <trolol> or run install with force option.
[01:00] <trolol> Forcing the installation is not recommended.
[01:00] <FloodBot1> trolol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <modifier> julian-delphiki: how to check if the capture card is recognized by system coz front lid is glowing very well......and also suggest any good mini card with wifi & bluettoth 2 in 1 coz i am also watching issues with broadcom 4313 chip which is currently installed into my system and i wanna change it.....suggest one which has fast speed with & over long distance
[01:00] <AceFace> escott: when you say client, you mean the virt-manager GUI?
[01:00] <bootkigftrgds> I got Empathy to load up on my Lubuntu netbook, but when I ask it to load 'an account' it just goes to system setting .. what am I doing wrong ?
[01:00] <trolol> has anyone purged fglrx before?
[01:00] <compdoc> AceFace, did you add yourself to the libvirtd group? Does kvm have permissions to write to the storage?
[01:01] <fishcooker> is there any boot grub editor on ubuntu?
[01:01] <AceFace> yes, i have added myself to the group with sudo adduser <username> libvirtd
[01:01] <AceFace> and i got a success message
[01:01] <compdoc> AceFace, you know about logging out after?
[01:02] <compdoc> just checking...
[01:02] <escott> AceFace, rather the guest
[01:02] <AceFace> kvm write permissions to storage? i dont know, it should as the disk image is in the default location
[01:02] <trolol> #help
[01:02] <AceFace> and yes, i have logged out and logged back in to ensure that i am added to group
[01:02] <trolol> lol
[01:02] <daftykins> AceFace: not sure if this is relevant, but have a read: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-925976-start-0.html
[01:02] <jeffree> would this be the right place to ask about a network driver problem?
[01:02] <daftykins> !ask | jeffree
[01:03] <jrib> gyre008: you could pastebin the output for example
[01:03] <daftykins> AceFace: "Solved running: gpasswd -a qemu kvm" <-- no idea what that does but it's in that thread
[01:03] <trolol> I downloaded fglrx for ati ,,, bad choice.. found the actual one from amd's website but I didn't fully purge fglrx properly.. anyone know how to do so?
[01:04] <modifier> anyone -  how to check if the capture card is recognized by system coz front lid is glowing very well......and also suggest any good mini card with wifi & bluettoth 2 in 1 coz i am also watching issues with broadcom 4313 chip which is currently installed into my system and i wanna change it.....suggest one which has fast speed with & over long distance
[01:04] <AceFace> escott: to answer your question, the guest is a WinXP and it doesnt even get past the last step of "setting up" the VM
[01:04] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:04] <AceFace> so, the VM guest never starts to load
[01:04] <phunyguy> woooo netsplit!
[01:04] <escott> AceFace, and you are getting this message on the host? did you modprobe the kvm modules?
[01:04] <modifier> best virtual machine for linux ? virtual box ?
[01:04] <MAL-_> This here explains my problem perfectly but it's from 2010.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566380
[01:04] <daftykins> trolol: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[01:04] <gyre008> sure jrib http://pastebin.com/w38V8LD0
[01:05] <MAL-_> modifier, Virtualbox is definitely awesome
[01:05] <AceFace> daftykins: i will try that
[01:05] <modifier> and installing win7 in virtual machine in ubuntu will be good or installing it side by side ubuntu as a complete independent OS ?
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, in your manual, it shows the default is:   Secure Virtual Machine Mode [Disabled]
[01:11] <modifier> MAL-_: ^^
[01:11] <AceFace> escott: this message is on the host, sorry i did not specify
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, nice looking board
[01:11] <AceFace> compdoc: i have edited bios to show it as enabled
[01:11] <AceFace> compdoc: shall i change it back?
[01:11] <BillyZane|2> sure wish i had some sound
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, how did you install kvm?
 thats what I originally did, but it seems that it doesn't work
[01:11] <MAL-_> modifier, I've never tried Windows 7 in Virtualbox but I'm about to try ReactOS to see how well that might work for running windows stuff.
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, no - enabled is right
[01:11] <escott> AceFace, lsmod | grep kvm does that show kvm.ko as loaded
[01:11] <AceFace> compdoc: i installed per instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[01:11] <daftykins> trolol: is the ATI driver claiming it detects something present and won't install, or?
[01:11] <modifier> how to look for all the drivers loaded in system ?
[01:11] <AceFace> escott: is shows kvm_amd 55604 0, kvm 414070 1 kvm_amd
 Error: A previous installation of fglrx driver detected to be loaded.User must uninstall existing fglrx driver or run install with force option. Forcing the installation is not recommended.
[01:11] <compdoc> AceFace, what does 'groups' command show for your user?
[01:11] <daftykins> trolol: trolol check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/78675/how-do-i-remove-the-fglrx-drivers-after-ive-installed-them-by-hand
[01:11] <compdoc> there are other important groups besides libvrtd
 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare libvirtd
[01:11] <AceFace> daftykins: i tried the gpasswd command with no success, "qemu user does not exist"
[01:11] <modifier> MAL-_: how to look for all the drivers loaded into system ?
[01:11] <MAL-_> modifier, I'm not too sure..
[01:11] <modifier> MAL-_: lsmod ?
 that will not work (ive tried it before) ... however I did find a xf86-video-ati folder on my home directory
[01:13] <MAL-_> modifier, I'm not sure.. I haven't had to play much with drivers on linux
[01:13] <modifier> ok
[01:13] <m0ksha> hi, anyone know anything about MPI? I'm trying to find information on building a cluster.
[01:13] <daftykins> trolol: nothing in home should be relevant. just give up and go for the force install, if none of those package names are present to remove
[01:15] <compdoc> AceFace, what does this show:  libvirtd --version     and this:  kvm --version
 when i run the sh that I downloaded from amd's website.. it will still pop up with that error message and not allow for an option to continue to install...
[01:18] <AceFace> compdoc: sorry, i was afk for a min
[01:18] <daftykins> trolol: that's odd. not sure a manual install is the best idea anyway. here's a crazy idea though - why not *install* fglrx so you definitely can remove it? :D
[01:18] <daftykins> trolol: i have to go anyway, be back soon
[01:18] <AceFace> compdoc: libvirtd (libvirt) 0.9.913
 ok thanks for your help
[01:18] <AceFace> compdoc: kvm shows QEMU v 1.2.0
[01:19] <compdoc> AceFace, oh, this is 12.10?
[01:20] <AceFace> yes
[01:21] <compdoc> does libvirt-bin exist in:  service --status-all
[01:21] <jane_> just installed xubuntu did the updates. what now? i don't think i have java or
[01:21] <AceFace> yes, shows [ ? ] libvirt-bin
[01:22] <julian-delphiki> trolol: btw, you dont need to put people's names in <>'s, and you can tab complete them like, typing tro and hitting tab gets me your name
[01:22] <AceFace> im a linux novice, and i -assume- ive tried to google everything to find a fix, but i have not
[01:22] <AceFace> i may have found a bug?
[01:23] <compdoc> AceFace, well, maybe you should define a filesystem storage area on your own desktop to see if its permissions
[01:23] <hays> are there any new ultrabooks with flawless or near-flawless linux support?
[01:23] <hays> Those Asus look pretty sweet for example
[01:23] <AceFace> i will try that, thank you so much for the help so far!
[01:23] <hays> The Dell Linux Ultrabook unfortunately has a kinda crappy screen
[01:23] <jane_> page link for after installing xubuntu
[01:23] <jane_> ?
[01:25] <compdoc> Aceface, there seems to be a group named 'kvm' shown on that website you posted
[01:25] <android> who
[01:26] <vuln> I installed and configured Compiz in my Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. Sometimes when I turn on the computer, when I press super, the Unity left bar with some apps shows up. However, sometimes I turn on my computer and it doesnt. Even though I can't view it, I know it's there since tab+enter runs one of the apps that used to appear in the bar
[01:27] <vuln> How can I make it appear once and for all?
[01:27] <dr_willis> sounds like  some buggy video drivers vuln
[01:27] <trolol> julian-delphiki: wait... lol I havn't used IRC in a long time, but my client used to do that to tag a users name
[01:27] <dr_willis> vuln:  whats your video chipset?
[01:32] <savagecroc> hmm right.. why on a default install of ubuntu do other users have permission to ls -al my home directory and  access half the files?
[01:32] <savagecroc> what should the permissions be?
[01:33] <savagecroc> i'm guessing user::rwx  group::r-x other:--- on the directory
[01:33] <hays> this is what i have: drwxr-xr-x
[01:33] <savagecroc> yeah but why should other get access
[01:33] <savagecroc> seems nuts
[01:34] <hays> well they don't have write access
[01:34] <Hilikus> is nvidia still the clear choice for ubuntu?
[01:34] <savagecroc> hays: yeah but they can still ls around
[01:35] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  I find the older nvidia chipsets work best. Avoid  the Dual-GPU optmius stuff for now. its still very much a work in progress
[01:35] <jrib> gyre008: you know by the way that "apt-get upgrade foo" doesn't just upgrade foo and is the same as "apt-get upgrade"?
[01:35] <Orkultus> <-- running optimus right now
[01:36] <gyre008> jrib: mm didnt know that
[01:36] <gyre008> whats the comand to upgrade just sleected package
[01:36] <jrib> gyre008: you can upgrade specific packages by doing "apt-get install foo"
[01:36] <gyre008> just install
[01:36] <gyre008> mmm
[01:36] <Orkultus> gyre2008 if it finds a newer version it upgrades it
[01:36] <gyre008> will try that then! ;)
[01:36] <gyre008> cheers lads
[01:37] <Orkultus> cant wait for optimus to have better support
[01:37] <Orkultus> kind of annoying having to use optirun command
[01:38] <M4dN3ss> LOL
[01:38] <Orkultus> i finally just loaded a terminal with optirun
[01:38] <Orkultus> starting running my games from that
[01:38] <M4dN3ss> this channel is so much funz, yeah?
[01:38] <modifier> any wifi with blutooth 2in1 mini card which has good linux driver to support its performance and fast speed with and over longer range ?
[01:39] <Orkultus> modifier this a laptop?
[01:39] <M4dN3ss> Anyway, if anyone needs anything I'd be happy to help
[01:39] <modifier> yes
[01:39] <dr_willis> modifier:  cant say ive ever seen a wifi+bluetooth both in one dongle
[01:39] <android> alfa wifi
[01:39] <M4dN3ss> modifier: I agree with dr_willis
[01:39] <Orkultus> modifier: oh my laptop has both built in, i think running from Atheros
[01:39] <modifier> Orkultus: hp G6 series model-1200TU with Broadcom 4313 chip
[01:39] <dr_willis> a 'mini' card will be
[01:40] <M4dN3ss> are you sure you have your information correct?
[01:40] <dr_willis> a 'mini' card will be  'anti long range' also
[01:40] <Orkultus> modifier: this is a dongle that you want to get?
[01:40] <modifier> dr_willis: not dongle but wifi module or mini card
[01:40] <Orkultus> i see
[01:40] <modifier> Orkultus: ^^
[01:40] <Orkultus> something like an old school pcmcia card
[01:40] <modifier> noo
[01:41] <dr_willis> I alwyas hit up google and amazon and see what user reviews say about  the specific hardware and ubuntu support
[01:41] <Orkultus> lol
[01:41] <AceFace> compdoc: i found a solution for my KVM problem!
[01:41] <mehwork> i plugged my ubuntu laptop into a plasma tv but i can't see google chrome on it. Any idea why? i can see terminal with irc in it though
[01:41] <compdoc> oh?
[01:41] <Orkultus> mehwork: Nvidia or ATI?
[01:41] <modifier> dr_willis: so what will u suggest ? i wanns replace broadcom 4313 card with a faster one
[01:42] <dr_willis> modifier:  check the various linux hardware review sites.. or check amazin and see what gets good reviews/comments about well supported in Linux/Ubuntu
[01:42] <mehwork> Orkultus: amd radeon hd
[01:42] <Orkultus> modifier i have no problem with the Atheros cards...i had to disable ipv6 cause of frequent drops..but it's good now
[01:42] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I get rid of these https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22806246/Screencaps/scollbar.png and install the ones U10.04 has/had?
[01:43] <Orkultus> mehwork: you using this tv as a second monitor?
[01:43] <coreyb> is anyone familiar with fubuntu?
[01:43] <mehwork> Orkultus: yeah but i don't have to. i just want it to work on it
[01:43] <dr_willis> coreyb:  enough to know its not related to ubuntu.. but based on fedora.
[01:43] <djzn> QUESTION: how do i turn offline the suggestions for online applications on the lens?
[01:43] <modifier> Orkultus: broadcom is also ok now with ubuntu 12.10 and its driver integrated under additional drivers software sources...otherwsie it was nothing more then a pain in***
[01:43] <dr_willis> !adlens
[01:44] <modifier> srry 4 lingo...
[01:44] <harris> in 12.04 how do i add evolution to mail applet
[01:44] <Orkultus> mehwork: when i had an nvidia card, it would automaticly detect my TV, and it was in my Nvidia-Settings as an option to choose
[01:44] <un2him> djzn, search for privacy, then there is an option to disable online search results
[01:44] <Orkultus> mehwork: does your ATI settings program have options?
[01:44] <AceFace> compdoc: i used "sudo cat /etc/group | grep kvm" and "sudo cat /etc/group | grep qemu" and "sudo cat /etc/group | grep libvirt" to find all groups related to my kvm problem, i then added these users to the groups: root, <username>, libvirt-qemu, libvirt-dnsmasq to all the groups
[01:44] <Orkultus> mehwork: also which driver are you using?
[01:45] <yugnip> DarkAceLaptop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10939919&postcount=2
[01:45] <djzn> dr_willis, i done that, i am talking about the APPLICATIONS that appear (Free, Paid, Free, Free)
[01:45] <AceFace> then rebooted for good measure and now it works! ^_^
[01:45] <_DADDY> i got xubuntu and my cpu is only running at 1400 whereas it should be 2.7
[01:45] <Orkultus> _DADDY: there an option in BIOS?
[01:45] <djzn> apps from the repo not installed are appearing
[01:45] <dr_willis> djzn:  i recall there be a setting/checkbox for that.  i turned it off ages ago.
[01:45] <harris> hello
[01:45] <mehwork> Orkultus: idk, it crashed i'm over it
[01:45] <_DADDY> no hp style bios
[01:46] <djzn> dr_willis, yes, there is this one i forgot
[01:46] <harris> dr_willis,  how do i add evolution to 12.04
[01:46] <Orkultus> mehwork: well sorry i couldn't be of much help. Just be glad you dont have to deal with Nvidia Optimus
[01:46] <harris> mail applet
[01:46] <dr_willis> harris:  if its not instlled - use the package manager tools to installit.
[01:46] <harris> i have evolution
[01:47] <savagecroc> does anyone have any suggestions of what to do to lock down a default ubuntu server box?
[01:47] <harris> but its not in mail applet
[01:47] <_DADDY> anyone know if ubuntu supports gtx660m?
[01:47] <dr_willis> _DADDY:  it should. You could check the forums and askubuntu.com to see if anonye has specific issues with it.
[01:47] <Orkultus> _DADDY: im running a GT 640M 2gb...im sure it's in the same driver as the one i have
[01:47] <compdoc> AceFace, cool
[01:48] <harris> dr_willis,  i have evolution but not showing up in top right mail thing
[01:48] <dr_willis> harris:  no idea. I never use it.
[01:48] <modifier> how to install xubuntu lubuntu kubuntu and various other environments on ubuntu ?
[01:48] <harris> how do i add thunderbird to it
[01:48] <dr_willis> modifier:  via the package manager tools..   packagtes will be like lubuntu-desktop  kubuntu-desktop and so forth
[01:48] <Orkultus> modifier: say you want LXDE..you just sudo apt-get install lxde-common lxde lxde-core
[01:49] <_DADDY> anyone think they could help me out with a low cpu mhz its well below normal in ubuntu
[01:49] <modifier> Orkultus: that will give only lxde skin
[01:49] <dr_willis> _DADDY:  my system auto throttles the cpu up/down as needed...
[01:49] <modifier> but i want whole lubuntu on ubuntu as a profile
[01:49] <Orkultus> modifier that's what i did to get the lxde desktop. i run cinnamon as my default
[01:49] <Orkultus> im on Linux Mint 14
[01:50] <dr_willis> modifier:  you install the *-desktop package then select the one to use at the login screen
[01:50] <modifier> ohh
[01:50] <_DADDY> dr_willis: hmm
[01:50] <_DADDY> omg i hate mint
[01:50] <Orkultus> ;)
[01:50] <_DADDY> i just got rid of it
[01:50] <modifier> Orkultus: how to install cinnamon on ubuntu ? have heard a lot about it and openbox
[01:50] <Orkultus> modifier you need to find a ppa for it
[01:51] <dr_willis> !info openbox
[01:51] <_DADDY> xface is better than cinnamon imo
[01:51] <_DADDY> xfce*
[01:51] <Orkultus> modifier then it's as simple as sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[01:51] <modifier> ok
[01:51] <dr_willis> and hope cinnamon dosent break the rest of the system.. ;)
[01:52] <modifier> dr_willis: confirm plz....it will be bad if it breaks :(
[01:52] <Thor> lol
[01:52] <dr_willis> modifier:  if cinnamon breaks your ubuntu box.. you are on your own. its an unsupported by this channel ppa/desktop
[01:53] <modifier> then better i will leave it
[01:53] <Thor> modifier: try it in a vm first and see if anything breaks
[01:53] <modifier> ok
[01:53] <Orkultus> modifier: also note that it probly wont run well with ATI cards...hence the new Gnome environment
[01:53] <djono> hello im having problems with flash on chromium
[01:53] <Thor> modifier: you should be able to find virtualbox in apt :)
[01:53] <_DADDY> modifier: u try go with xfce
[01:54] <Orkultus> modifier: there are plenty of desktop environments to try from
[01:54] <Orkultus> modifier: Mate is also another version simular to cinnamon
[01:54] <modifier> ok
[01:54] <tweikable> <- anyone free need help installing vidila verzon of tor on my ubuntu 12.10
[01:54] <modifier> there are thousand...i just choose the big-wigs
[01:55] <_DADDY> cinnamon isnt all that good i feel nor gnome-shell nor unity
[01:55] <dr_willis> Or just stick to unity. since that will be the easiest to get support on.
[01:55] <Orkultus> modifier: if you like customization... E17 as well..just watch out for the network manager that it tries to install
[01:56] <android> ZSNES is arguably the most popular and highest rated SNES emulator available. sudo apt-get install zsnes
[01:56] <Orkultus> android already have it
[01:56] <modifier> ok
[01:56] <android> nice
[01:57] <modifier> are u both talking to me ?
[01:57] <histo> modifier: openbox is pretty nice. Also if you are into tiling managers awesome wm is where it's at
[01:57] <modifier> zsnes ?
[01:57] <djzn> i  hate unity but i am using it.
[01:57] <histo> tweikable: have you tried just using the tor browsers availible?
[01:57] <Orkultus> for a suggestion to anyone looking for a new laptop. If you get an ACER V3-771G ..haha your gonna have a hell of a time getting linux to run
[01:57] <histo> tweikable: much easier to set up and it's portable
[01:58] <tweikable> i think so ,  not sure is does it have the features that vidilia has with being able to click for new identity
[01:58] <djzn> unity needs to show the applications menu at all times.... always, like MAC
[01:58] <histo> tweikable: yes it does
[01:58] <tweikable> problem im haviang. when i type tor in terminal says its running. i go to ip chicken. still says my ip address
[01:58] <Super_Dog> Upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 went pretty well but I can't seem to load Acrobat Reader 9.X that was on my old 10.04 setup.
[01:58] <tweikable> with the light sppeed bs
[01:58] <dr_willis> Theres indicator applets to show a more old type menu... trivial to install.
[01:58] <histo> tweikable: you can choose a new identity in the side panel that's open
[01:59] <Super_Dog> I get this: "acroread : Depends: ia32-libs (>= 20080808) but it is not going to be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[01:59] <histo> tweikable: can't remember if it's vidalia or what it's called
[01:59] <tweikable> ok./ i will re download it. i have fast internet, do you have the time to help me out
[01:59] <Super_Dog> I see this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acroread/+bug/990761
[01:59] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: do you really need acrobat? Linux has plenty of other PDF reader programs
[01:59] <tweikable> should i download vidila, or the tor browser package
[01:59] <Adiost> Hey guys
[01:59] <tweikable> hi.
[01:59] <djono> how do u get flash to work?
[02:00] <histo> tweikable: tor browser
[02:00] <tweikable> ok. once sec tyhank you so much for this help
[02:00] <tweikable> 1 sec
[02:00] <Super_Dog> Actually I do.  Only one that will open password secured encrypted files my co-workers send me.
[02:00] <modifier> i like foxit phantom....anyone suggest its equivalent for linux
[02:00] <Orkultus> djono: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:00] <Adiost> Some time ago I've heard that recompiling kernel on the machine to use on could significantly improve perfomance
[02:00] <Adiost> is that true?
[02:00] <tweikable> ok i clicked
[02:00] <djono> thx
[02:01] <tweikable> im using archive manager right
[02:01] <modifier> Orkultus: djono install adobe-flashplugin
[02:01] <tweikable> or do i just save it
[02:01] <dr_willis> Adiost:  if you knew enough to compile it.. and knew enough to know what to optmize.. perhaps..
[02:01] <dr_willis> Adiost:  hard to justify the work needed.
[02:01] <Super_Dog> Looks like this is a known problem.
[02:01] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: what does sudo apt-get -f install do?
[02:01] <Super_Dog> Nothing...
[02:01] <tweikable> Should i be using archive manager to open the file. or just save it. when clicking tor browswer bundle
[02:02] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: it looks like it's needing 32 bit libs...is there a 64bit version?
[02:02] <android> The best alternative for CCleaner in Linux is BleachBit sudo apt-get install bleachbit
[02:02] <yugnip> i am trying to compile an app that needs openGL, which i thought i had, but the app doesn't http://pastebin.com/L4uJQvd2
[02:03] <Adiost> Orkultus: -f for "forced"
[02:03] <Super_Dog> Here's the output from command "sudo apt-get -f install" -  http://pastebin.com/BMiRHkWG
[02:04] <tweikable> ok i just downlaoded it now what should i do
[02:04] <tweikable> sudo apt-get install telepathy-sofiasip telepathy-butterfly telepathy-idle libtelepathy-farsight0 python-tpfarsight
[02:04] <tweikable> ups wronge post
[02:04] <yugnip> Super_Dog, you have something else open that is a package manager
[02:05] <yugnip> Super_Dog, close synaptic or software center or update manager first
[02:05] <Super_Dog> Nope.  Software Sources, Synaptic, and Update Manager are closed.  Just have terminal window open.
[02:05] <tweikable> after downloading tor browser bundle. were should i extract it to
[02:05] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i would check your processes with the top command
[02:06] <bean> Orkultus: ps aux
[02:06] <bean> works better
[02:06] <yugnip> Super_Dog, update manager is probably working in the background, give it a minute and run the command again
[02:07] <Super_Dog> Update manager is not running.  Not in tab list or in programs on "top" command.
[02:07] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i sent you a link
[02:08] <Super_Dog> Tried this.  No dice:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/166566/cannot-install-adobe-reader
[02:08] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: im trying the link i sent you
[02:10] <Super_Dog> Is there not a 64-bit *.deb version of Adobe Reader?
[02:10] <Super_Dog> Hmmm...
[02:10] <Orkultus> got it working fine
[02:11] <Super_Dog> Orkultus: Did you use that i386 version in the link on the page you gave me?
[02:11] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: yeah and i installed libxml2:i386
[02:12] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: opens up just fine
[02:12] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: thing about adobe...they suck when it comes to linux support. They always drop support on everything
[02:12] <Super_Dog> Let me check...
[02:13] <Super_Dog> Is there no 64 bit *.deb file for Adobe Reader?
[02:13] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: no sorry
[02:13] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: like i said, adobe dont give a crap about linux. im suprised we had a 32bit version
[02:13] <Super_Dog> But the 32-bit works on our 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS....?
[02:13] <vuln> dr_willis: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[02:14] <Super_Dog> ...still installing over here.
[02:14] <vuln> I'm sorry for taking so long to reply you dr_willis :)
[02:14] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: that 32bit version works on my 64bit Linux Mint 14 no problem
[02:14] <whatasunnyday> Hi! I rebooted my entire computer and it isn't in a language I recognize. It looks like its asian based.
[02:14] <whatasunnyday> I'm using cinannamon and I have no idea how I did this or to convert it back.
[02:14] <_DADDY> Orkultus, speaking of mint did you have any wifi connection issues?
[02:14] <whatasunnyday> Some programs are in in this asian text like xchat but I remember what buttons to press so it isn't so bad.
[02:15] <challengerX> whatasunnyday: no racist comments
[02:15] <Orkultus> _DADDY: sometimes the connection would drop..was an easy fix...had to go into the connection settings and disable ipv6
[02:15] <Super_Dog> ...atom processor ain't the quickest running 64-bit I guess...
[02:16] <dr_willis> whatasunnyday:  cinammon isent really supported here so we cant help much
[02:16] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: lol nope...good for a netbook though
[02:16] <_DADDY> Orkultus, yep thats the one i couldnt get it to stop
[02:16] <Super_Dog> will report Orkultus.... be patient please...
[02:16] <whatasunnyday> challengerX: what did I say that it was racist?
[02:17] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: i will send you a link with the fix to your exact problem
[02:17] <whatasunnyday> thanks orkultus.
[02:17] <Orkultus> np
[02:17] <whatasunnyday> i think i sent it in ubuntu
[02:18] <whatasunnyday> because in the system settings there is only one icon that is in this non english text
[02:18] <whatasunnyday> and its a flag with a un symbol
[02:18] <whatasunnyday> it has a list of possible languages to convert to but i can't read any of them
[02:18] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: ah
[02:18] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: try that webpage
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> no dice orkultus
[02:20] <djzn> whatasunnyday, another racist comment ?
[02:20] <challengerX>  /join #vbox
[02:20] <challengerX> :P
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> dzjn, i'm sorry
[02:20] <djzn> whatasunnyday, just kidding... he was harsh on you..
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> i'm not sure what i'm saying thats racist and i don't mean to sound ignorant
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> oh
[02:20] <whatasunnyday> :(
[02:20] <challengerX> pheww !
[02:20] <Orkultus> lol
[02:20] <djzn> i am a convict racist! but I can't tell anything here.
[02:21] <Orkultus> everyone is racist..it's ok
[02:22] <Super_Dog> Seemed to install Acrobat but does not launch.  Unless it takes like 5 minutes to launch...  There is now an AcroReader icon in Unity.
[02:22] <jirido> rasist is a bit stupid, its mor natural to be a culurist
[02:22] <dr_willis> you could run it from terminal and look for errors.
[02:22] <amagee> hey, i have a vps running ubuntu 12.04 that has just decided that it won't let me run `top` without sudo; it says "Cannot find /proc/version - is /proc mounted?"  .. any ideas?
[02:23] <jrib> amagee: ls -l /proc/version
[02:23] <^Rubiu5^> hi
[02:23] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: lol it took my quad core a few seconds to load it...it comes with up their license terms page first
[02:23] <Super_Dog> Here's what I get when I run "acroread" from terminal:  http://pastebin.com/L8V0BBhT
[02:24] <amagee> jrib: -r--r----- 1 root root 0 Jan 15 13:23 /proc/version  .  I tried giving it other-read, but that just made the problem more bizarre.  There is no error message, but the entire terminal session breaks.
[02:24] <^Rubiu5^> windows 8 is the best OS ever ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ :D
[02:24] <Orkultus> sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[02:24] <whatasunnyday> can anyone read chinese?
[02:24] <Super_Dog> "libstdc++.so.6" ???
[02:24] <Super_Dog> Will try it.
[02:25] <^Rubiu5^> chineses sucks
[02:25] <somsip> whatasunnyday: google translate
[02:25] <Orkultus> i took windows 8 off this windows 8 only laptop and put linux on it
[02:25] <whatasunnyday> i can't select the text to highlight to copy and paste
[02:25] <lewisou> ^Rubiu5^: want do you mean by that?
[02:25] <blkadder> amagee: That looks pretty broken.
[02:25] <Super_Dog> "libstdc++6 is already the newest version."
[02:25] <jrib> ^Rubiu5^: this channel is for ubuntu support.  Please stop with the offtopic chatter here
[02:25] <^Rubiu5^> .oO lewisou Oo. i mean what i mean
[02:25] <^Rubiu5^> .oO jrib Oo. ok
[02:26] <challengerX> ^Rubiu5^: Did you come here for bill gates charity program?
[02:26] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i could be looking for the 32bit..which im sure it is
[02:26] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6:i386
[02:26] <whatasunnyday> orkultus, i looked at the second answer and it helped :)
[02:26] <^Rubiu5^> .oO challengerX Oo. of course
[02:26] <Orkultus> whatasunnyday: good good
[02:26] <whatasunnyday> sorry the second link
[02:26] <whatasunnyday> well not the second link but the second answer
[02:27] <^Rubiu5^> ok ok
[02:27] <whatasunnyday> i'm out guys
[02:27] <Guest98604> Hi. First off well done to anyone involved in the Lubuntu project (It runs so much faster than windows on a Celeron 2.4Ghz)    Q: When loading Qjack (Lubuntu) there is no sound and system has to be re-booted to get sound back....Any hints?
[02:27] <whatasunnyday> thanks for yoru help
[02:27] <Orkultus> later
[02:27] <^Rubiu5^> understood
[02:27] <Orkultus> np
[02:27] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i love chasing dependencies...lol
[02:28] <jrib> amagee: guess you need to figure out why the permissions are like that, for starters
[02:28] <Super_Dog> Thanks Orkultus....at least something installed with that command.  You are very clever...
[02:28] <challengerX> ^Rubiu5^: Good!
[02:28] <K350> What doesn't run faster then windows on any system?
[02:28] <Orkultus> so what's going on with the losing 32bit support in kernel 3.8?
[02:28] <modifier> how to create debs with compiled apps ?
[02:28] <Guest98604> :)
[02:28] <amagee> jrib: yeah, i have no idea.. it was working last time i logged onto the system. i think i'll just file a ticket with the vps provider.
[02:28] <somsip> Orkultus: i386 support, not 32bit
[02:28] <jrib> amagee: probably best
[02:28] <Super_Dog> Bingo..... Orkultus is the king.  Thank you very much sir.  Another pleasant solution on the #ubuntu IRC channel.
[02:28] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: got it working eh? awesome!
[02:29] <challengerX> K350:  BSOD
[02:29] <Super_Dog> Yep.... thanks for that one.  I'm OK at Ubuntu troubleshooting but definitely not in your league...
[02:29] <vuln> Anyone who has successfuly managed to use Unity+Compiz in Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:29] <modifier> Orkultus: get TM5600 chipset capture card working !
[02:29] <Orkultus> so what does this mean for supplying i386 libs for programs in a 64 environment?
[02:29] <malkauns> vuln, yes
[02:29] <K350> challengerX: lol
[02:29] <malkauns> vuln, unity uses compiz LOL
[02:29] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: Glad to help :)
[02:31] <lanken> ok, WTF unity, I'm trying to add Sublime Text to the launcher, and it's impossible
[02:31] <whatasunnyday> alright, so i still have the problem
[02:31] <Super_Dog> Boy Adobe's really gone to crap on Linux...  Version 9.5.1?  I'm using 11 on my Windows Laptop...
[02:31] <lanken> I've tried dragging in the executable, tried dragging in a "Launcher / shortcut thing" of the executable
[02:31] <somsip> Orkultus: mayeb this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/229814/does-the-removal-of-i386-from-the-kernel-mean-ubuntu-is-dropping-32-bit-support
[02:31] <malkauns> lanken, u need to create a .desktop file, most of which are located in /usr/share/applications
[02:31] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: like i said..adobe doesn't care about linux..lol
[02:32] <whatasunnyday> what i noticed: in /etc/default/locate the first two lines: LANG and LANGUAGE were to zn:utf-8 and i set them back to english
[02:32] <Super_Dog> Wow, I can tell.  This interface is harsh....
[02:32] <whatasunnyday> where else is it set other than /etc/default/locale?
[02:32] <lanken> malkauns: how is this different from the "links" that I can create with the file browser?
[02:32] <lanken> malkauns: are those symlinks?
[02:33] <malkauns> lanken, .desktop files in that dir show up in the unity launcher if the icon is set correctly
[02:33] <vuln> malkauns: when I press SUPER, the left app bar of Unity is not showing up :( (it's not viewable, but it's there). Do you know how can I work this around?
[02:33] <malkauns> lanken, no
[02:33] <funky> Anyone know how to access unity's Suspend option on Gnome 3?
[02:33] <Orkultus> somsip: oh i see..thanks
[02:33] <malkauns> vuln, tried unity --replace & ?
[02:34] <zack> hi
[02:34] <zack> can someone help me out, im an ubuntu newbie
[02:34] <challengerX> z
[02:34] <zack> so I just installed ubuntu 12.10. I went to system settings and for graphics, it says "Unknown". there are no propietary driers installed.
[02:35] <zack> how do I get propietary drivers? am I basically screwed
[02:35] <zack> its so laggy
[02:35] <zack> Radeon x600
[02:35] <malkauns> lanken, links tell the filesystem where a file is, .desktop files contain metadata about an application including the path to the binary
[02:35] <lanken> malkauns: this is incredibly frustrating for such a basic use case.
[02:35] <malkauns> lanken, agree :P
[02:35] <vuln> Just did malkauns. It didnt work
[02:35] <vuln> :(
[02:35] <malkauns> but its up to the app developer to provide the .desktop file in the install package
[02:35] <lanken> malkauns: there's a youtube video instructing me to basically clone one of the .desktop files and change its properties to point to the thing I want to target
[02:36] <JonathanLima> i was updating from 12.04 to 12.10 and my system suspended... i made a loop on bash to run apt-get upgrade, dist-upgrade and -f install... but i got stuck on a dependency problem that seems to have something to do with mesa... could someone give me a hand?
[02:36] <malkauns> lanken, yea that's what i usually do
[02:36] <zack> can someone please help me find a driver for ubuntu 12.10 64-bit, graphics card Radeon X600
[02:36] <zack> please!
[02:36] <KI4RO> Why doesn't gtkpod show up as an option on the programs list for when I insert a music player? (IPOD)
[02:36] <zack> display driver
[02:36] <malkauns> vuln, how do u know the unity launcher is really there but u cant see it?
[02:36] <lanken> malkauns: that's bullshit, it's up to the desktop environment to provide convenient ways of launching your programs. please.
[02:36] <vuln> malkauns: cause pressint TAB and ENTER I can run the apps that were there :D
[02:37] <zack> someone please
[02:37] <vuln> I mean SUPER and then TAB, TAB, TAB and ENTER and it will run the app that was third on the list
[02:37] <vuln> ^_^
[02:37] <malkauns> lanken, the desktop environment cannot just "guess" where an app is that u install unless the installer tells it
[02:37] <Orkultus> KI4R0: it never did that for me as well
[02:37] <zack> I cant find display drivers and its so laggy . x600 radeon
[02:37] <Orkultus> KI4R0: of course i just used rhythmbox or Banshee to deal with my ipod
[02:37] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Thanks...very strange...do you use gtkpod?
[02:38] <Guest98604> Q: Audio works on Ubuntu Studio (But graphics lacking) so changed to Lubuntu (Graphics acceptable) but sound cuts when loading Qjack and have to reboot?....Any hints??
[02:39] <malkauns> vuln, strange, u have your display drivers set up properly?
[02:39] <lanken> malkauns: Nautilus probably needs to do the work. If you've got an executable binary in a folder, you should be able to drag it to the unity bar (ideally), or at the very least have a quick action to "add this to System Applications"
[02:39] <vuln> malkauns: I think so
[02:39] <malkauns> lanken, true
[02:39] <vuln> '^_^
[02:39] <lanken> this is a real let-down. I'll install kde3.5 if anything else like this happens to me.
[02:39] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Wife got me the shuffle as a Christmas present.  I've been using Rhythmbox as well but would like to use gtkpod since it is supposedly written for the device
[02:40] <malkauns> lanken, LOL
[02:40] <vuln> malkauns: I think it may be a conflict with some Compiz things I have set up.
[02:40] <lanken> it's also infuriating that you can't manually text-edit the path of the nautilus breadcrumbs.
[02:40] <malkauns> vuln, does it work fine with unity 2d?
[02:40] <malkauns> lanken, omg hell will break loose if u do that LOL
[02:41] <Guest98604> Is it even worth trying programs like Qjack in Lubuntu?
[02:41] <Orkultus> KI4R0: i found gtkpod to be very confusing. It was the first ipod supported program for Linux, but then later on other musics adapted the plugin
[02:41] <malkauns> vuln, maybe try unity --reset (baring in mind it will reset anything u did in ccsm)
[02:41] <vuln> malkauns: unity 2d?
[02:41] <vuln> malkauns: it all worked just fine before I started messing with ccsm :P
[02:41] <malkauns> vuln, unity --reset will restore things to default
[02:41] <Orkultus> KI4R0: Music Players* is what i ment
[02:41] <vuln> malkauns: aw :(
[02:42] <vuln> I will give it a shot
[02:42] <malkauns> vuln, well at least then u can track down what it is in ccsm that messed it up
[02:42] <KI4RO> Orkultus, That was my experience with Gtkpod as well...thought it was just me...glad I'm not the only one! LOL
[02:42] <vuln> malkauns: indeed.
[02:42] <vuln> I set up my Ubuntu in Italian in order to not forget my italian
[02:42] <malkauns> heh
[02:42] <vuln> but I'm not used to Ubuntu terms in Italian so I'm a bit confused
[02:42] <vuln> haha
[02:43] <lanken> malkauns: kubuntu was always a piece of crap, but kde3.5 is golden. it's still maintained.
[02:43] <Orkultus> KI4R0: yeah i really would prefer to use either Rhythmbox, or Banshee..there is also Amarok, if your in a KDE environment
[02:43] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Maybe they'll come with a new more friendly version one of these days! LOL
[02:43] <Orkultus> KI4R0: lol we all hope
[02:43] <kdns> Hi all :) My logs are full of entries about nullmailer: nullmailer[1886]	Starting delivery: protocol: smtp host: mail. file: 1356296386.11263
[02:43] <vuln> O____O
[02:43] <vuln> Now it disappeared!
[02:43] <malkauns> lanken, mmm no global menu but maybe u dont mind
[02:43] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Tried Amarok...it, also, was confusing to me
[02:43] <Guest98604> Sorry....Just realized there is a channel for Lubuntu :)
[02:43] <kdns> Please tell me what it creating and what is attempting to send these messages, I'd like to turn both OFF
[02:43] <vuln> When I press super malkauns, the whole window appear BUT the left bar
[02:44] <vuln> what might have happened?
[02:44] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Didn't care for it taking up residence in my system either
[02:44] <Orkultus> KI4R0: give Banshee a try
[02:44] <malkauns> vuln, hmm now try unity --replace
[02:44] <vuln> k
[02:45] <rkdewa> morning brothers
[02:45] <rkdewa> haay
[02:46] <rkdewa> hallo
[02:46] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Thanks for the suggestion and for chatting with me regarding the Ipod...always nice to find another person
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience | rkdewa
[02:46] <Orkultus> Ki4R0: always glad to help
[02:46] <KI4RO> Orkultus, One more question...have you had any luck getting the Ipod to announce what its playing?
[02:46] <vuln> malkauns: didnt work :o
[02:47] <vuln> the bar is still issing
[02:47] <skp1> SonikkuAmerica: yo
[02:47] <malkauns> vuln, hmm
[02:48] <Super_Dog> Man - now I have a "cannot install ia32-libs" error in Software center trying to install TeamViewer...
[02:48] <malkauns> vuln, maybe u have to remove your .config/compiz-1 then
[02:48] <malkauns> vuln, in your home dir
[02:48] <Super_Dog> These 32-bit libraries are really roughing me up...
[02:48] <vuln> the entire dir malkauns ?
[02:49] <malkauns> vuln, yea or maybe just move it to compiz-1_bak or something
[02:49] <malkauns> just incase
[02:49] <vuln> k
[02:49] <vuln> then unity --replace again?
[02:49] <malkauns> reset, then replace
[02:50] <vuln> unity --reset ?
[02:50] <malkauns> might just be better to log out and back in again after reset
[02:50] <malkauns> yea
[02:50] <Orkultus> KI4R0: this when you are playing the ipod while it's attatched to the computer?
[02:50] <vuln> the nunity --replace? can I do it from a terminal like ctrl+alt+F1 or I must do it in the current display?
[02:50] <malkauns> current display..
[02:50] <vuln> ty
[02:50] <KI4RO> Orkultus, No supposed to be able to do it when you are playing it while walking...it is a shuffle
[02:51] <malkauns> if u do it from ctr+alt+F1 then u must do export DISPLAY=:0 before
[02:51] <dr_willis> unity --replace wouldent work from teh consoles.
[02:51] <malkauns> dr_willis, it will if u set the DISPLAY environment variable
[02:51] <Orkultus> KI4R0: oh so it says it like with voice in your headphones?
[02:51] <dr_willis> then it woul dbe the same as running it on the running desktop. ;)
[02:52] <malkauns> yep
[02:52] <KI4RO> Orkultus, yes, it is supposed to be able to do that
[02:52] <dr_willis> Unity and compiz can get so confused - its often better to log out/back in
[02:52] <malkauns> yea
[02:52] <Orkultus> KI4R0: never had the chance to see one of those ipods. I have a classic 80gb. That's the last time i have touched an ipod
[02:53] <malkauns> but unity --replace restarts compiz anyway
[02:53] <Guest98604> Why is there nobody in Lubuntu room :(
[02:53] <KI4RO> Orkultus, Okay, thanks again.  Have a nice...whatever it is in your part of the world
[02:53] <dr_willis> They change this stuff with every reelase i cant rember
[02:53] <dr_willis> Guest98604:  because they are all in here perhaps.
[02:54] <malkauns> if compiz/unity crash or mess up often like it does for me, then login out and back in every time isnt an option
[02:54] <dr_willis> I rarely have  issues in 12.10 these days..
[02:54] <Orkultus> KI4R0: washington state...cold and rainy...you have a good one as well
[02:54] <Guest98604> I'm not sure if that answers the question but thanks.
[02:54] <vuln> it's really messed up now :(
[02:54] <malkauns> i'm on 12.04 and will wait for 13.04
[02:54] <vuln> left bar doesnt appear and when I maximize a window there is an empty space at the top
[02:54] <vuln> between the window and the top bar
[02:54] <vuln> :(
[02:54] <vuln> malkauns:
[02:55] <malkauns> 12.10 had too many issues for me when it was first out
[02:55] <malkauns> vuln, ?
[02:55] <dr_willis> vuln:  does the guest user work properly?
[02:55] <vuln> :(
[02:55] <vuln> I will have to log out to test it out, right?
[02:55] <malkauns> vuln, probably the best thing to do
[02:56] <dr_willis> also you could test with a newly made user. - if the new user and guest have the same issue -> points to a system issue.. if they WORK -> points to a Setting file for the problem user
[02:56] <malkauns> brb
[02:56] <vuln> YES
[02:56] <vuln> It works perfectly (the guest session)
[02:56] <malkauns> nice
[02:56] <malkauns> vuln, now you're getting somewhere
[02:57] <vuln> It sounds like so
[02:57] <vuln> So what should I do?
[02:57] <dr_willis> now i would make a test user. and verify it works for them
[02:57] <dr_willis> 'sudo adduser testuser'
[02:58] <Guest98604> It's my name isn't it?....It says ignore me I haven't even bothered to come up with an inventive name.
[02:59] <vuln> Yes, it does dr_willis
[02:59] <vuln> created and logged in and the lfet bar is perfect
[02:59] <vuln> left*
[02:59] <alexandros_c> how to enble hibernate on xubuntu 12.10?
[03:00] <Guest98604> Guest98604 has quit  :)
[03:00] <bsmith093> firefox is dead, but my swap is still full how do i fix that without rebooting
[03:01] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: is it located in the xfce-settings menu under power?
[03:01] <K350> c
[03:01] <K350> c
[03:01] <vuln> dr_willis, malkauns what should I do then?
[03:01] <alexandros_c> it is greyed out and my computer supports hibernate
[03:01] <vuln> It sounds reasonable that it should work after removing compiz-1
[03:02] <malkauns> vuln, back up and remove your user dir and user then readd it
[03:02] <Orkultus> bsmith093: you want to clear you swap memory?
[03:02] <malkauns> vuln, maybe its your ~/.gnome2 too
[03:02] <dr_willis> id nuke every setting in your home; _
[03:03] <dr_willis> Nuke it from orbit.. only way to be sure. ;)
[03:03] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Alexandro, it was removed as an option. I forget whether or not you can reenable it.
[03:03] <bsmith093> Orkultus: yes, and the ram too
[03:03] <dr_willis> Or MOve all the setting files/dirs to a backup dir.
[03:03] <malkauns> vuln, try removing ~/.gnome2 as a quick test, if that doesn't work then do what i said above
[03:03] <Orkultus> bsmith093: have you tried the swapoff and swapon commands?
[03:03] <malkauns> vuln, log out and back in ofcourse to make sure your test is good
[03:03] <bsmith093> whats that
[03:03] <dr_willis>  dozens of setting files in .config and .gnome* and .gconf*  i recall
[03:03] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, it is not available there, but my computer supports hibernate. tried the enable  fix but it did not work
[03:04] <dr_willis> I can nuke my settings and back to my normal setup in about a min. ;)
[03:05] <Orkultus> bsmith093: such like sudo swapoff -a sudo swapon -a
[03:05] <dr_willis> also double check the .Xauthority file. it shouldent be owned by root.  you could just move/rename it also
[03:05] <vuln> .Xauthority is owned by my user
[03:05] <Orkultus> alexandros_c you running on a Laptop?
[03:06] <Super_Dog> Anybody got 64-bit Teamviewer working in 12.04 LTS?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/971761
[03:06] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i got it working
[03:06] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: you need wine installed
[03:06] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, yes dell inspiron 9400
[03:06] <vuln> so I remove ~/.gnome2
[03:06] <Guest98604> Guest986604 has quit......Not :)   Any Lubuntu engineers floating about? Maybe hiding in the corner somewhere?
[03:06] <vuln> dr_willis?
[03:06] <Super_Dog> Wine is installed...
[03:06] <ngillespie> exit
[03:07] <kdns> Hi all :) My logs are full of entries about nullmailer: nullmailer[1886]	Starting delivery: protocol: smtp host: mail. file: 1356296386.11263          ............   Please tell me what it creating and what is attempting to send these messages, I'd like to turn both OFF
[03:07] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: under my power settings for my laptop is has controls for hibernation for like when i close my laptop lid, or idle out
[03:07] <Super_Dog> Should I use TViewer 7 or TV 8 Beta 64-bit...
[03:07] <BONG_IT> how to mount folder from a server
[03:07] <bsmith093> ok im using 99.9% of swap and 75% of ram and i cant find where its all going, what do i do???
[03:07] <SuperFunkyFly> How can I reboot my networking.
[03:07] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, hibernate is not an option
[03:08] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-power-manager
[03:08] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: i believe it would be called suspend
[03:08] <SuperFunkyFly> Is /etc/init.d/networking restart the only way?
[03:08] <kdns> bsmith093:  look at a task manager and sort by memory usage to find the hungry app
[03:08] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: i would go with something stable like 7
[03:09] <bsmith093> kdns: i am and the greediest is only using 600mb of ram
[03:09] <kdns> SuperFunkyFly: No, but it works, doesn't it?
[03:09] <alexandros_c> no that is different, suspend is to RAM and hibernate is to disk
[03:09] <Orkultus> Super_Dog: Never know if a Beta is gonna fail you
[03:09] <snowrichard> hhh
[03:09] <PatrickDickey> SuperFunkyFly: sudo service networking restart might work
[03:09] <escott> bsmith093, "top -m" if you only have a command line
[03:09] <SuperFunkyFly> PatrickDickey that was much quicker and to the point. Thx
[03:09] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Bsmith, try running htop from bash. It gives you a lot of good info about what's doing what
[03:09] <Super_Dog> SuperFunkyFly:  If it's Samba you're dealing with you may wish to try:  "sudo service smbd restart"
[03:09] <kdns> bsmith093: how much ram and swap do you have?
[03:09] <PatrickDickey> SuperFunkyFly: They both do the same thing, and in some cases, you have to do the long route.
[03:10] <SuperFunkyFly> Never used Samba?
[03:10] <bsmith093> kdns: 953mb swap 2gb ram
[03:10] <bsmith093> 2008 laptop
[03:10] <escott> BONG_IT, please change your nick and identify what kind of network share this is. windows SMB, or NFR or ftp etc
[03:10] <PDun> I know this sounds retarded, but what is the key combination to kill a running program in terminal?
[03:10] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Ctrl-c
[03:10] <alexandros_c> Orkultus, I know what you are toalking about my laptop suspports suspend and hibernate
[03:10] <kdns> SuperFunkyFly: it was to the point because he made the assumption that you don't know that you need to be root to restart networking. Sorry I wanted to work up to it without making assumptions.
[03:11] <BONG_IT> how to change nick
[03:11] <PatrickDickey> PDun, I use ps | grep process and then kill processID.
[03:11] <SuperFunkyFly> PatrickDickey kind of old school. Was working this this stuff back in 95 and now I am back with it in at work. Wow a lot has changed in the *nix world
[03:11] <BONG_IT> this is smb
[03:11] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: this is what i could find http://xflinux.blogspot.com/2011/01/enable-hibernate-and-suspend-in-xubuntu.html
[03:11] <kdns> bsmith093: that's not a lot, if your #1 app is using 600 of it, then #2 through #10 are probably enough to fill it.
[03:11] <escott> BONG_IT, /nick new_nickname
[03:11] <fishcooker> how to know that my boar using ivy bridge rather than sandy
[03:11] <PatrickDickey> SuperFunkyFly: Short answer is yes. Longer answer is in some ways yes. Things have gotten easier, but most of the original ways are still applicable.
[03:12] <escott> !samba | BONG_IT
[03:12] <Orkultus> alexandros_c: or try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[03:12] <SuperFunkyFly> kdns no sry about that. I just really did not know what Samba was. Been working with BSD for the last ... 10 years or so @.@
[03:12] <bsmith093> kdns:  but i have these apps open all the time and they never use this much, im gonna reboot
[03:12] <kdns> what's wrong with BONG_IT s nick?
[03:12] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Bsmith093 noooooooooo!
[03:13] <orbitwhite> hey guys i have abnormal amount of unused ram on my laptop, anything i could do to use it for some *good* purposes?
[03:13] <bsmith093> OnlyHalfTheTime: why not
[03:13] <Orkultus> to many bong hits...that's what's wrong
[03:13] <BONG_IT> the client also is ubuntu
[03:13] <kdns> bsmith093: I assumed you were in here because you'd already tried the basics. My bad. Yes, try a reboot.
[03:13] <SuperFunkyFly> thx escott . I kind of thought Windes died a few years back???
[03:13] <SuperFunkyFly> idk
[03:13] <SuperFunkyFly> not a gammer
[03:13] <SuperFunkyFly> gamer
[03:13] <kdns> Hi all :) My logs are full of entries about nullmailer: nullmailer[1886]	Starting delivery: protocol: smtp host: mail. file: 1356296386.11263          ............   Please tell me what is creating and what is attempting to send these messages, I'd like to turn both OFF
[03:13] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Linux never needs a reboot. I'm joking of course. If that fixes it, more power to you
[03:13] <phunyguy> escott, I just remembered what my issue with gvfs and cifs was.... the process would deadlock and freeze up the main system process.
[03:14] <escott> fishcooker, look at /proc/cpuinfo and google the stepping or the name
[03:14] <SuperFunkyFly> kdns do you have a smtp on your server and your ISP blocked port 25?
[03:14] <orbitwhite> kdns, nullmailer maybe? =)
[03:14] <Guest98604> I designed an element to add to linux that reduces performance issues by reprocessing data and creating a smaller data flow....It works a little bit like 7zip data compression.....Not really. I'm off to find the answer to my question. Bye
[03:14] <bsmith093> kdns:  well, ok then, sorry for not trying that already but one of the reasons i switched from vista besides bsod 4 times in 3 months, is the lack of rebooting
[03:14] <kdns> OnlyHalfTheTime: LOL
[03:14] <Orkultus> i gotta run guys
[03:14] <SuperFunkyFly> *=)
[03:14] <Orkultus> cya
[03:14] <Super_Dog> I get the error: "Cannot install 'ia32-libs" for either version of Teamviewer downloaded as 64-bit *.deb files...
[03:14] <nomadis> First time for me to use XChat or anything like it, hi yall
[03:15] <Super_Dog> nomadis:  Hello!
[03:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Hi nomadis
[03:15] <kdns> SuperFunkyFly: I'm not running a smtp server. Ubuntu Studio. No ports blocked. But I don't want it to even attempt to send these messages.
[03:15] <SuperFunkyFly> If your ISP blocked port 25 there are ways around that.
[03:15] <PatrickDickey> kdns which log is it in? (Not sure if it matters, but more information is better)
[03:16] <kdns> orbitwhite: lol yes I already googled it and found that it was supposedly apport creating crash logs, and nullmailer sending them
[03:16]  * rootpt is away: bbl
[03:16] <nomadis> I was told I could use this program to get on something called karaoke realm.. but I don't know how..
[03:16] <kdns> orbitwhite: but i don't know how nullmailer is scheduled to check for them, and I already disabled apport but it still appears to be creating these logs.
[03:16] <escott> Super_Dog, those were probably made for 12.04 or earlier. now we have multiarch so you can just apt-get install program:i386 the dependencies
[03:16] <orbitwhite> kdns, how  often do u need apport?
[03:17] <PatrickDickey> kdns: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nullmailer.htm
[03:17] <kdns> hi nomadis :)
[03:17] <kdns> I need apport never. This PC is an audio workstation and needs anything fluffy and extra turned off.
[03:17] <BONG_IT> how to update my repo
[03:17] <Super_Dog> escott:  I'm on 12.04 LTS...
[03:17] <orbitwhite> yeah there r always two ways, troubleshooting something u need to work and get rid of something u don't need for real lol
[03:18] <PatrickDickey> BONG_IT: if you're adding a repository, you can use sudo-apt-add-repository or open Software Sources and add it under the "Other Software" tab.
[03:18] <histo> BONG_IT: sudo apt-get update
[03:18] <Blkrdo> My ubuntu is stuck,after booting up,it halts with a violet screen,no icon,no sound,no keys working! Any help?
[03:18] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Blkrdo
[03:18] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, ctrl+alt+f1, does it show black screen with login promt? =)
[03:18] <BONG_IT> when im sudo apt-get update
[03:19] <BONG_IT> i have an error
[03:19] <Blkrdo> Ubottu: thank you
[03:19] <kdns> PatrickDickey: This is appearing in the system log
[03:19] <PatrickDickey> BONG_IT: what/s the error?
[03:19] <kdns> PatrickDickey: Thanks for the link, that might help me stop nullmailer from sending the messages, but what is creating them?
[03:19] <escott> Super_Dog, maybe it was 11.10... the years are blending together
[03:19] <PatrickDickey> kdns, I'm not sure. It might help you to figure that out too.
[03:20] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: no,nothing
[03:20] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: it was working fine 30min back
[03:20] <PatrickDickey> kdns: Also, the answer might be in the entries right before and after that one.
[03:20] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, what have changed for past 30min?
[03:21] <kdns> PatrickDickey: The entire log is full of these nullmailer messages... It just keeps retrying over and over....
[03:21] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: i guess i just installed codelite
[03:22] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: and a direct shutdown
[03:22] <kdns> bsmith093: You're right that linux generally needs a reboot less often than windows... Don't worry, this reboot is the first in a series of troubleshooting steps, which theoretically could lead you to not needing to reboot it.
[03:22] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, idk what is this but if it looks like the real reason for ur case, i would log into system over ssh and remove that all looking forward for next steps if necessary
[03:23] <bsmith093> kdns: well that fixed the insane swap fukll swap problem
[03:23] <Guest98604> 40689tseuG
[03:23] <kdns> bsmith093: It's not a fix it's a workaround :) The fix comes after you fnd out what caused it, and then that probem is made to go away forever.
[03:24] <kdns> bsmith093: You may find that you have an app with a memory leak or something
[03:24] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: but isnt it necesary for my system to be working for tha? How do i troubleshoot it?
[03:24] <lewisou> clear
[03:24] <kdns> hehehe
[03:24] <RomperStomp> Hi i was wondering is there a way to intall or build ubuntu for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1" (similar to nexus 7 style "Native install")?
[03:24] <PatrickDickey> bsmith093: how long had it been since you rebooted last?
[03:25] <bsmith093> PatrickDickey: 17days 3:04 hrs
[03:25] <PatrickDickey> RomperStomp: Try in #ubuntu-phone that's where the fun stuff is at. :)
[03:25] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, at the current point the most easy way is to troubleshoot it over ssh, if there is any interface left at all i would do it over busybox shell from bootloader if problem doesn't affect it too
[03:25] <kdns> 17 days is a fair while for a workstation.... What's the machine's purpose?
[03:25] <PatrickDickey> bsmith093: One or more of the applications might have a memory leak. That would use up the swap space, as well as RAM.
[03:26] <bsmith093> PatrickDickey: just pidgin gedit and the latest firefox , 18
[03:26] <kdns> Blkrdo: are you able to boot into recovery mode? (Hold shift before grub starts, and it will give you a menu)
[03:26]  * PatrickDickey bingoooooo  
[03:26] <PatrickDickey> FIrefox is notorious for memory hogging. Especially if you have flash running in a window.
[03:26] <kdns> firefox.
[03:27] <kdns> yep.
[03:27] <Blkrdo> Kdns: yup,got recovery mode. now?
[03:27] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, the first thing to check is if the box is alive or not, if network configured to get up automatically ping will tell u if its dead for real or looks just looks like dead
[03:28] <orbitwhite> recovery mode works too lol
[03:28] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: now how do i use it actualy?
[03:29] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: root shell prompt!
[03:29] <orbitwhite> depends on what u wanna do
[03:29] <kdns> Blkrdo: I was actually checking to see the status of your box, don't actually plan on using recovery mode (not right now anyway) but the fact that it works is what I was after :)
[03:29] <kdns> However... You said you installed new packages... Recovery root prompt is one way to remove them
[03:29] <orbitwhite> i would check logs on root fs under /var/log especially syslog, kern.log and dmesg
[03:29] <Haematoma> where is the config file for USB HDD automount option?
[03:30] <kdns> yes, check the logs!!
[03:30] <Haematoma> I'm looking to create a UDEV rule that executes an RSYNC script whenever i plug in my hDD
[03:30] <kdns> Haematoma: the udev rules are the automount config :)
[03:30] <Haematoma> but I want to make sure that the drive partition(s) have been successfully mounted before the script is executed
[03:30] <orbitwhite> if u're 100% positive that it happened after installing some packages removing it would be a good step to fix it fast way
[03:31] <Haematoma> kdns: do you know of a way to ensure the drive partitions have been mounted before the script is execute?
[03:31] <kdns> Haematoma: I'd parse the output of the mount command.
[03:31] <Haematoma> kdns: I was thinking of using the wait command, but I'm betting that there is a better way of doing it
[03:32] <PatrickDickey> Haematoma: This might point you in the right direction (note, I haven't tried it--only Googled it) http://hackaday.com/2009/09/18/how-to-write-udev-rules/
[03:32] <Haematoma> kdns: thanks
[03:32] <PatrickDickey> Haematoma: I mention it, because they talk about an rsync script when a drive is automounted.
[03:32] <Haematoma> PatrickDickey: thanks. I'll look into it.
[03:33] <kdns> Haematoma: strictly speaking, you want to check for the UUID of your specific drive I guess
[03:33] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: i dont think so! Because its mostly something to do with my graphics driver! I got it while updating the system! But the last two time i re-installed completly,dont wana do ths time!
[03:33] <PatrickDickey> Blkrdo: what kind of card do you have?
[03:34] <ghosthole> Hi anyone able to help me with gpu, just installed the driver that ubuntu suggested rebooted and got black sceen and message say incompatable hardware... had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:35] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, linux doesn't need to be reinstalled until hardware fail of storage device(s) or lacking of skills, linux gives u more ways to configure it while it brings more responsibility for what was done
[03:35] <kdns> Haematoma: use blkid to look for your drive by UUID, then look for that device node (EG: /dev/sdc) in the output of mount.
[03:35] <PatrickDickey> ghosthole: which graphics card do you have?
[03:35] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, so u updated it and the driver for ur video adapter was updated too, right?
[03:36] <ghosthole> Radeon 7660g
[03:36] <Haematoma> kdns: Okay... I'm a little unfamiliar with the UNIX mounting process in general. I know there is the /mnt directory and the /media directory, but I don't know the difference between the two.
[03:36] <orbitwhite> i suggested ssh because in that case it would be easy for u to give us ur dmesg, kern.log and syslog from /var/log
[03:36] <PatrickDickey> !nomodset | ghosthole This might help you with the issue also. You'll reboot, and add it to the command line in grub using 'e' to edit.
[03:36] <ghosthole> The one on amd a10
[03:36] <Haematoma> kdns: I assume once a drive partition is properly mounted, the partition ends up in the /media directory, but can't say with certainty.
[03:36] <orbitwhite> and we would find out if the box boots to coma or it is alive actually
[03:37] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: that was last time! This time i made sure not to update! I admit lack of knowlege!
[03:37] <kdns> Haematoma: the udev rules in ubuntu mout most (all?) removable devices to /media
[03:37] <Haematoma> kdns: I'll have to read more I suppose. I'll try not to badger you into an oracle relationship. lol
[03:37] <PatrickDickey> !nomodeset | ghosthole The correct information for what I was trying to point you to.
[03:37] <kdns> Haematoma: and you can find out where your device is mounted by typing ''mount" at a shell
[03:37] <orbitwhite> nah i'm not saying someone is lacking of knowledge, im just trying to state the fact
[03:38] <kdns> Haematoma: however in your case, you will not need to know where the system intends to mount it, but just whether it is mounted, no?
[03:39] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, u c it is hard to determine what happened to ur system actually, but in order to make sure what was wrong people will ask u for logs
[03:39] <orbitwhite> if u don't know or not sure what happened
[03:39] <Haematoma> kdns: Since the mounted partition ends up in /media, I just need to know the name of the partition.
[03:40] <Haematoma> kdns: but my main concern is ensuring that the partition is properly mounted before my script attempts to rsync
[03:40] <PatrickDickey> Haematoma: is it mounted right now?
[03:40] <orbitwhite> if i were u and my box was configured with automatic network setup, first of all i would check if it gets up it's networking or it is completely dead
[03:40] <kdns> Haematoma: I hope you don't mind if i go backwards for a minute... what's actually the intended use case here?
[03:40] <kdns> ahhhh okay
[03:41] <orbitwhite> if ssh is an option, i would log into system and got back to community support
[03:41] <orbitwhite> otherwise i would boot into recovery mode
[03:41] <kdns> So the idea is, you plug the drive in, and it magically starts a backup for you (or something like that)
[03:41] <orbitwhite> took the logs from root fs
[03:41] <Haematoma> kdns: I run a media server at my house that I share with my roommates. I get tired of transferring media files to their external HDDs, so I set up a script which automatically xfers the files from their respective home download directories onto a selected HDD.
[03:41] <orbitwhite> and came back to coomunity with logs published on pastebin
[03:41] <orbitwhite> in order to figure out what exactly went wrong
[03:42] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: would he be able to install, and use pastebinit from recovery mode?
[03:42] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, i didn't say that
[03:42] <orbitwhite> sorry for being slow, english is not my primary language
[03:42] <Haematoma> kdns: the script is intended to sync the roommates invidual download folder with their HDD when they plug it in, and then send an email upon completion
[03:42] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: No, I'm not saying you did. I'm offering it as a way of him getting the logs on pastebin.
[03:43] <orbitwhite> nothing stops u from using usb storage, ssfs, smbfs or whatever option there is
[03:43] <kdns> Haematoma: Your housemates must think you are awesome.
[03:43] <orbitwhite> i suggested to check if ssh is an option at first matter
[03:43] <orbitwhite> because copy-paste and interactive console rocks for the context of situation
[03:43] <kdns> Haematoma: I guess then, you need a way to detect which housemate's HDD is connected, and then grab the appropriate files for that drive
[03:44] <kdns> ?
[03:44] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: agreed totally.
[03:44] <kdns> orbitwhite: +1
[03:44] <Haematoma> kdns: yeah, I already have that part covered... The part i'm struggling with is ensuring that the drive has been successfully mounted.
[03:44] <Haematoma> before the sync script is executed
[03:45] <Haematoma> I can differentiate between drives using serial no(s).
[03:45] <kdns> Haematoma: well that depends on how you detect the drive? Are you using UUId or valume label or file presence or something?
[03:45] <kdns> right, serial number :)
[03:45] <Haematoma> I'm hoping i can use udev to mount the drive from the get go...
[03:45] <Haematoma> and i just put the mount action before the script activation,
[03:46] <kdns> Haematoma: how do you do that? as in, what tool do you use to read the serial number?
[03:46] <Haematoma> udevadm info
[03:46] <orbitwhite> Haematoma, sorry if im saying something non-related but if it is mounted over uuid or label it would be easy to check this fact over grepping /proc/mounts
[03:47] <kdns> orbitwhite: that's on point mate, definitely related, I said something similar earlier :)
[03:47] <Haematoma> orbitwhite: Kk thanks. I'll have to read more about that.
[03:47] <orbitwhite> if something is not mounted, it won;t be present into there for sure
[03:47] <kdns> Haematoma: I would not try to do all this in udev scripts, I'd simply use udev to pass an argument to your script, and do most of the work in bash.
[03:48] <funtapaz> Now that was weird.
[03:48] <funtapaz> Just managed to get CUPS to eat up every bit of disk space after trying to print to an IPP printer.
[03:48] <orbitwhite> messing with system key components (is udev one? ^_^) is not a good idea until u know for sure what r u doing
[03:48] <Haematoma> kdns: Kk. Thank you for your help.
[03:49] <funtapaz> Ubuntu then failed to boot, and I had to use sysrescuecd to clear out some files in /var/spool/
[03:49] <Haematoma> orbitwhite: I'm not too worried, its an individual rule file with low priority, and the rule is to activate a script.
[03:49] <funtapaz> Anyone ever heard of something like that?
[03:49] <Blkrdo> Orbitwhite: it worked with the nomodeset in the grub! What does it signifies?
[03:50] <orbitwhite> Blkrdo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/207175/what-does-nomodeset-do
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> I just came to say it worked out afterwards :)
[03:50] <orbitwhite> Haematoma, oh ok =)
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> Thank you dr_willis and m something :$
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> malkauns:  :D
[03:50] <mribeirodantas> Good night! (it's vuln)
[03:50] <malkauns> yo
[03:51] <malkauns> got it working?
[03:53] <orbitwhite> i heard gnome devs told they will pay more attention for classic mode rather than they did for now, is that true? (soz 4 my retarded english)
[03:54] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: I haven't heard anything, but that doesn't mean much. I really haven't looked into it, because I either use Unity or Lubuntu.
[03:55] <JoeCoolDesk> When I go to install mysql I get this: http://pastebin.com/r75qCq9x
[03:56] <orbitwhite> i just got used to gnome since debian sarge and i liked it so much after they implemeted tabs in nautilus that i can't make myself to get used to something else
[03:56] <dr_willis> orbitwhite: id heard it was scheduled for removal in the next year or sommmm.
[03:56] <orbitwhite> oh god that hurts =)
[03:56] <dr_willis> im suprised its still around
[03:57] <orbitwhite> i'm using mate but i feel like its just a dirty hack for real
[03:57] <dr_willis> gnome2 in many ways was a dirty hack .. then they tried to clean it up by removeing features people wanted. :)
[03:58] <dr_willis> Then again. i rember back when the 'ximian gnome' fork came out. so im old..
[03:58] <orbitwhite> worked for me, the reason why its gone talking of interface style is that they started messing with touchscreens imho
[03:58] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: you can either try sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo apt-get install -f and see if one of them finishes the installation.
[03:58] <JoeCoolDesk> install -f brings that same error
[03:59] <CorpSamich> Hey, would someone be able to help me with some Win8 and 12.10 problems with Dual booting?
[03:59] <orbitwhite> D:
[03:59] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: is there any other messages right before the ones you pastebinned?
[03:59] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey: Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server
[03:59] <JoeCoolDesk> For dpackage configure
[04:00] <PatrickDickey> CorpSamich: what issues are you having? Someone may be able to help out.
[04:01] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: Could you pastebin everything that you got when you originally tried to install? I mean after it downloaded the files.
[04:01] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, sure.
[04:02] <CorpSamich> Ah, I pretty much followed everything for setting it up to dual boot like I have on my Desktop with Win7, also disabling Fast/safe boot stuff that's been put into Win8. Everything downloaded fine and installed correctly, and I can't seem to find a way to get back to Win8. The bootmanager screen that you'd normally see on Win8 doesn't appear when I restart. Anyway to fix this?
[04:03] <dr_willis> CorpSamich: so the grub menu shows no win8 entry?
[04:03] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey: http://pastebin.com/NReph3Nr
[04:03] <orbitwhite> there is a topic on google from 2009 with something similar to this apt and mysql problem and guy said it fixed things http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1126169.html thats so weird
[04:03] <PatrickDickey> CorpSamich: when you restart, does it take you to a grub menu, or just boot into ubuntu?
[04:03] <CorpSamich> Just into Ubuntu. I see my Toshiba Startup logo and then it boots directly in.
[04:03] <orbitwhite> oops, not the case
[04:07] <dr_willis> CorpSamich:  its possible windows8 is so new - you may need to add a custom entry for it in the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file
[04:07] <kfizz> I'm using "Disks" in Ubuntu 12.10 and I'm trying to set a drive to mount at start up. One of the default options is x-gvfs-show and it's an unrecognized mount option according to dmesg. What is x-gvfs-show? Should I just delete it from the mount options?
[04:07] <dr_willis> kfizz:  id just make a /etc/fstab entry by hand. Ive heard of some people breaking things badly using the gui disk mounting config tools
[04:08] <kfizz> dr_willis, that was my 2nd choice and what I was planning on eventually doing. I had just never seen x-gvfs-show before as a mount option and wasn't sure what it did.
[04:09] <jakepiano> well i have another problem with the ethernet. it was working about an hour ago and now its not recognizing at all. how do i fix it again?
[04:09] <PatrickDickey> Well that was a fun flight out the door. LOL :S
[04:10] <Sylphie> jakepiano, a fix that only lasts an hour maybe wasn't really fixed
[04:11] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: has anyone else given you any suggestions? I crashed right after you pastebinned the second link.
[04:11] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, no.  Mysql told me to come here.
[04:11] <JoeCoolDesk> http://pastebin.com/NReph3Nr
[04:11] <orbitwhite> JoeCoolDesk, i found exactly similar case like urs, eventually dude built the package my hands from sources and it worked, i'm 100% positive it is ur case
[04:11] <PatrickDickey> Well, what I see is "ERROR: There's not enough space in /var/lib/mysql/" which tells me that your drive might be full.
[04:11] <JoeCoolDesk> orbitwhite: link?
[04:11] <jakepiano> Sylphie no it was working for the past couple days. it just stopped all of a sudden
[04:12] <orbitwhite> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=195523.0
[04:12] <orbitwhite> russian
[04:12] <c2tarun> hi friends, can anyone please tell me how to disable default bluetooth app in ubuntu 12.04 and make blueman as default. I am having two bluetooth apps working right now. http://imagebin.org/242960
[04:12] <graft> hey does anyone know how to install computer modern as a font?
[04:12] <modifier> how to add backup created by aptoncd as repository rather than restoring it to apt ?
[04:12] <orbitwhite> same guy another forum, russian
[04:12] <orbitwhite> http://www.linux.org.ru/forum/admin/7898528#comments
[04:12] <Sylphie> jakepiano, what was the problem?
[04:12] <c2tarun> Startup application is not showing system bluetooth application
[04:12] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  one may be auto starting from /etc/xdg/autostart  (I think) thats the ssytem wide autostart directory.
[04:12] <PatrickDickey> !font | graft
[04:13] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  those are hidden from the users auto start config tools
[04:13] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, any way to see disk usage in CLI?
[04:13] <Sylphie> JoeCoolDesk \ "df"
[04:13] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: du is the tool. Do you not have a desktop installed?
[04:13] <JoeCoolDesk> PatrickDickey, it's a server.
[04:13] <kdns> For those who were helping me, thanks very much, I found that the messages were created by the daily and weekly cron scripts, and if nullmailer is not present, the messages are not only not sent, but not created (as nullmailer provides the method for the messages to be placed in the queue, without it, the cron script can't create the messages)
[04:14] <kdns> so purging nulmailer was my solution.
[04:14] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: Sylphie's response is better.
[04:14] <jakepiano> Sylphie well i was connected to the internet via ethernet and i was running a virtual box, it had a freeze for a moment and then the internet wasn't working at all. once i restarted the computer the ethernet wasn't showing up at all. i just need to know how to get it back to functionality
[04:15] <c2tarun> dr_willis, ok, I have these in that directory: blueman.desktop  bluetooth-applet.desktop  bluetooth-applet-unity.desktop   I think deleting or rename last two will do the job right?
[04:15] <daftykins> jakepiano: do you get anything from 'ifconfig -a' in a terminal?
[04:15] <Sylphie> jakepiano, so you are running linux from a VM of windows?
[04:15] <JoeCoolDesk> Well how about that, no disk space.
[04:15] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  i normally make a autorun.disabled in the parent directory and move them there.
[04:15] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: sudo apt-get autoclean will help with that.
[04:15] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, bring us ur lspci please
[04:15] <jakepiano> Sylphie no i have linux as the primary os
[04:15] <modifier> how to add backup created by aptoncd as repository rather than restoring it to apt ?
[04:16] <c2tarun> dr_willis, good idea, thanks :)
[04:16] <PatrickDickey> JoeCoolDesk: Maybe, but it might not work, since you're in the middle of a failed installation.
[04:16] <jakepiano> daftykins the eth0 doesn't show up
[04:16] <jakepiano> daftykins just lo and lan0
[04:16] <Sylphie> jakepiano, do you have a hub or switch with lights to tell whether you are connected?
[04:16] <jakepiano> orbitwhite whats that?
[04:16] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: do you see an indicator for the network in your panel? Either two arrows or a pie slice?
[04:17] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, `lspci` says what devices u have on pci bus including ur network controller
[04:17] <daftykins> jakepiano: this is the host OS ja?
[04:17] <jakepiano> Sylphie yeah the hub has a orange and green light that are lit whether its plugged in or not
[04:18] <orbitwhite> after what i would check if everything is fine with module by grepping it through dmesg log
[04:18] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey no i don't. i know it should be there but its not at all
[04:18] <jakepiano> daftykins yes linux is the host
[04:18] <orbitwhite> could u please show us `lspci` command output?
[04:18] <modifier> anyone - how to add backup created by aptoncd as repository rather than restoring it to apt ??
[04:18] <Sylphie> jakepiano, so if the lights are lit that means you are connected hardware-wise, just something is being lost in the software
[04:19] <JoeCoolDesk> Alright, mysql running.  But now my sites are blank.
[04:19] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: not a problem. pastebin the results of lspci then. We'll help you from there.
[04:19] <orbitwhite> :/
[04:19] <daftykins> jakepiano: ja pastebin the 'lspci' output for the others then
[04:19] <jakepiano> Sylphie yes i believe so.
[04:19] <PatrickDickey> modifier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD may help.
[04:20] <jakepiano> i haven't done a pastebin before what do i do?
[04:20] <dr_willis> !pastebinit
[04:20]  * orbitwhite :-* ubottu 
[04:20] <PatrickDickey> Um, shoot....  He won't be able to pastebin, since he doesn't have Internet.
[04:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:20] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533310/
[04:20] <jakepiano> here it is
[04:20] <orbitwhite> he has irc how comes he doesn't have internet
[04:21] <jakepiano> all i typed in to the command was lspci. is that right?
[04:21] <Sylphie> because it's inside a VM
[04:21] <jakepiano> and no i'm not running linux from a vm
[04:21] <jakepiano> its the host
[04:21] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, the problem is with a wired network interface right?
[04:21] <kdns> Good lord, does nobody f***ing google before they come in here?
[04:21] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: You're connected via wireless right now. "lan0" is probably your wireless connection.
[04:22] <orbitwhite> i can't see the wired one =)
[04:22] <kdns> The topic should say: If you haven't googled your problem for at least three hours, go away.
[04:22] <daftykins> kdns: you're shocked? :)
[04:22] <jakepiano> yes it is. but i need to connect to the the internet
[04:22] <jakepiano> orbitwhite yes i believe so
[04:22] <Sylphie> kdns, sometimes you don't know the right question to search for
[04:22] <kdns> daftykins: LOL yeh totally dude... it's been like this in here since forever... I guess it never ceases to amaze me.
[04:22] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, it is a very bad sign, bring us ur `dmesg`
[04:23] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: You need what connected to the Internet? I realize that sounds strange, but if you're on the computer right now, it IS connected to the Internet.
[04:23] <daftykins> definitely no wired interface there
[04:23] <kdns> Sylphie: of course! :D google doesn't answer everything. But it certainly has the answer to 90% of the issues in here.
[04:23] <orbitwhite> he needs his wired interface working i assume
[04:23] <blkadder> You sure?
[04:24] <blkadder> Perhaps it would be easier for all involved if none of the interfaces worked.
[04:24] <orbitwhite> in ur case too
[04:24] <jakepiano> yes i know its connected to the internet. i want to connect via the ethernet port. the university's wifi is very slow. wired is a lot faster.
[04:24] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: if you haven't seen the other requests, could you pastebin the results of dmesg please?
[04:24] <orbitwhite> i suspect we won't see anything interesting in dmesg and ethernet is dead =)
[04:25] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533317/
[04:25] <jakepiano> well i had this problem when i first installed ubuntu and it got fixed but i can't remember how. it was through a few commands and downloads
[04:25] <Sylphie> jakepiano, was this a builtin ethernet port, or an addon card?
[04:26] <orbitwhite> motherboard or laptop model at least
[04:27] <jakepiano> it was built in and its built in
[04:27] <jakepiano> sorry its built in and on a laptop
[04:27] <orbitwhite> laptop model plz
[04:27] <jakepiano> i'm on a lenovo g480
[04:27] <orbitwhite> thx
[04:27] <Sylphie> jakepiano, if it's builtin, it's possible it might have gotten shut off in the bios (theoretically)
[04:28] <jakepiano> i checked the bios already. enabled and renabled it. still not working
[04:29] <daftykins> orbitwhite: atheros?
[04:29] <Sylphie> jakepiano, strange, if it wasn't functioning it shouldn't be lighting the switch
[04:30] <orbitwhite> daftykins, AR8162
[04:30] <jakepiano> yeah its really weird. i'm not sure whats going on.
[04:30] <daftykins> Sylphie: they can be broken permanently lit too
[04:30] <jakepiano> well nothing i did messed it up i hope. the only thing i was doing was running windows on a virtual box when it stopped working
[04:31] <PatrickDickey> jake, do you have the vm running right now?
[04:31] <daftykins> orbitwhite: worth grep'ing his 'history' maybe?
[04:31] <daftykins> orbitwhite: since he fixed it already once
[04:31] <orbitwhite> people complain about it saying latest compat-wireless solves the problem but its weird that we don't see the device on the list
[04:31] <JoeCoolDesk> Thanks PatrickDickey, site's back up.
[04:31] <PatrickDickey> Awesome JoeCoolDesk. :)
[04:31] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: do you have the virtual machine running right now?
[04:32] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey no i'm not
[04:32] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ as a workaround, does your Lenovo have any pcm slots for an addon ethernet which could be really cheap
[04:32] <jakepiano> pcm?
[04:32] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: try starting it, and see what happens. (Yes, I have odd solutions)
[04:32] <PatrickDickey> The little slot on the side of the laptop. PCMCIA slot.
[04:33] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ pcmcia or cardbus, those credit card sized ethernet cards
[04:33] <jakepiano> no i don't
[04:34] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ I thought pcm slots came standard on laptops. shame on Lenovo
[04:34] <orbitwhite> that is weird, i have blanks in my knowledges but is it possible due to lack of some firmware that we don't see the device on simple `lspci` output?
[04:34] <RomperStomp> patrick i went to ubuntu-phone no one is answering my question about putting ubuntu on my samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1" the channel seems dead
[04:34] <orbitwhite> but atheros is kinda *opensource* chipset
[04:34] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: I think it's tied into the wireless. The wired is an Atheros NIC.
[04:34] <jakepiano> so is there anything to fix the ethernet? or is it just dead?
[04:35] <PatrickDickey> RomperStomp: I don't know what to tell you. That's where they're working on it at. Sorry.
[04:35] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[04:35] <orbitwhite> i suspect its not possible
[04:35] <daftykins> pretty sure wireless and wired chips are never the same
[04:35] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ if it is dead and you have no pcm slots, there's always usb ethernet
[04:36] <logi> hi
[04:36] <daftykins> Sylphie: PCMCIA has been dead for years. PC Express cards are rare as nobody really used them. planning for the hardware to be dead so quickly and easily is a terrible comment to a user :P
[04:36] <arussel> Hi, is there a ip blacklisting package for apache ? somethign that would get blacklisted IPs from a server and add them to my deny host of apache.
[04:36] <logi> who can help me? i'am having a problem installing ubuntu
[04:37] <logi> someone?>
[04:37] <jakepiano> so is there nothing to fix it? i fixed it before. i'm not sure why we can't fix it now
[04:37] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: try sudo lshw -C network and pastebin the results please.
[04:37] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ I'd recommend the Asix ax88178 usb ethernet, as long as you're are using the newest drivers. even slightly old drivers and it won't work
[04:37] <orbitwhite> `lshw -C network`
[04:38] <blkadder> arussel: There might be but it would be pretty trivial to implement yourself.
[04:38] <logi> somebody who can help me?
[04:38] <somsip> arussel: you could try something like this and there are a few variants: http://perishablepress.com/ultimate-htaccess-blacklist/
[04:38] <orbitwhite> logi, what is the problem?
[04:38] <logi> i cant install ubuntu
[04:38] <orbitwhite> that is not the problem
[04:38] <logi> i am trying to install 12.10
[04:38] <jakepiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533345/
[04:39] <PatrickDickey> logi, a little more information is needed. How are you trying to install it, and what kind of errors are you getting?
[04:39] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, `lshw -C network`
[04:39] <logi> when it finishes loading some files at the beginning it will boot me to a black screen
[04:39] <arussel> somsip: thanks for the link
[04:40] <jakepiano> its posted
[04:40] <logi> i use USB btw
[04:40] <PatrickDickey> logi, Try pressing CTRL + Alt+ F1 and tell us if it brings you to a prompt.
[04:40] <somsip> arussel: no worries. Personally I find these to be too much and quite out of date. I'd recommend Fail2Ban
[04:40] <logi> ok i'll try
[04:40] <arussel> blkadder: probably, but I'm a dev, not a sys ad, and this is for a site already in prod, too many chances I screw somehting :-)
[04:40] <orbitwhite> logi, nothing u can see on black screen after bios messages? any wornings or errors during installation process?
[04:40] <phunyguy> can anyone help me with a linux ping command question? I can't seem to tell it to wait 30 seconds for a response, before failing and returning it's failure error code. I tried the -w and -W command line options, and it still ignores that, failing after a few seconds.
[04:41] <Sylphie> phunyguy \ "ping -t timeoutinseconds"
[04:42] <phunyguy> I have a keepalive script for sshfs, which relies on that ping to see if the network is active.  If not, it kills the sshfs process as to not lock up the system, and free up resources.  When copying files, it creates enough latency to make a ping timeout, therefore killing the connection
[04:43] <phunyguy> Sylphie, I was under the impression that was "ttl", which is how many hops to take before failing
[04:43] <phunyguy> (router hops)
[04:43] <jakepiano> alright well if theres nothing else that can be done thanks for the analysis
[04:43] <blkadder> ttl = time to live
[04:43] <Sylphie> phunyguy \ I thought ttl was "-m"
[04:43] <phunyguy> maybe I read the wrong man page
[04:43] <phunyguy> nope, -t did nothing
[04:44] <Sylphie> oh well
[04:44] <phunyguy> -m is mark
[04:44] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: you could try rebooting again, without the ethernet cable plugged in. Then reboot once with it plugged in. (I'll admit I'm going through things I've done in the past).
[04:44] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ if do you can some way to boot windows w/o a VM?
[04:45] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey yeah ive tried it but i can do it again
[04:45] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, `lshw -C network`
[04:45] <orbitwhite> u forgot that "network" part
[04:45] <jakepiano> Sylphie no not really. i've gone through hell to try and get both working and i finally did, but now with the ethernet not working i'm frustrated
[04:45] <orbitwhite> thats where we stucked
[04:46] <Sylphie> So Jake's ethernet isn't on lspci or lshw?
[04:46] <orbitwhite> we still have to make sure =)
[04:46] <logi> i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 but nothing happened
[04:46] <jakepiano> orbitwhite http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533362/
[04:47] <orbitwhite> now we're sure there is no one
[04:47] <logi> please someone help me
[04:47] <orbitwhite> and it is dead or it is some sort of hardware fail
[04:47] <PatrickDickey> phunyguy: one site I found recommends installing fping instead of ping.
[04:47] <Sylphie> some ethernet cards need a firmware download at boot time
[04:48] <jakepiano> orbitwhite well i had it working an hour ago so i'm assuming its a hardware or software fail
[04:48] <orbitwhite> Sylphie, it is atheros card
[04:48] <phunyguy> oooh cool, thanks, let me try that, PatrickDickey
[04:48] <logi> hi patrick
[04:48] <logi> i did what u told me
[04:48] <logi> but nothing happend
[04:48] <jakepiano> orbitwhite what firmware download could i get
[04:48] <logi> any suggestions??
[04:48] <apocalysque> anyone have any luck getting ubuntu 12.04 to work on PPC?  getting stuck @ boot @ a screen says "calling quiesce" using live boot option.  how can i log the boot to found out what problem is?
[04:48] <PatrickDickey> Hi logi.I saw that. When you did the install, did it actually get to the point where it said "Installation complete. You must reboot the system."
[04:49] <logi> no
[04:49] <orbitwhite> i'm a bit stucked into old times but lenovo wasn't friendly for linux as i remember however atheros was always close to opensource world
[04:49] <logi> i am stucked at the beginning
[04:49] <orbitwhite> and they gave up everything necessary to develop opensource drivers so i doubt there is some lack of firmware for it
[04:49] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ One solution I've seen for atheros ethernet is to use ndiswapper
[04:49] <PatrickDickey> logi, so it never even started to install? You haven't even got to the "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" screen?
[04:50] <jakepiano> ndiswapper?
[04:50] <kdns> jakepiano: maybe try a live USB distro to see if it is hardware or software...?
[04:50] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ ndiswrapper (sorry) in conjunction with a windows driver
[04:50] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: change the network to bridge on the lshw command, and pastebin that please? (On my system, my wired is under bridge --not network)
[04:50] <logi> yeah i got there, then i clicked install Ubuntu then it will load some files right? after that the screen will be black
[04:51] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey what exactly is that command?
[04:51] <PatrickDickey> logi, try rebooting and choose "Try Ubuntu"
[04:51] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: lshw -C bridge
[04:51] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: sudo lshw -C bridge sorry (it will want to be ran as root)
[04:52] <jakepiano> PatrickDickey http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533372/
[04:53] <Sylphie> jakepiano \ if all else fails maybe you could try "ndiswrapper" along with the windows driver
[04:53] <orbitwhite> jakepiano, do u windows on dual boot on ur laptop?
[04:53] <jakepiano> yeah i could try it
[04:53] <orbitwhite> just curious if it works at all
[04:53] <jakepiano> orbitwhite i have windows as a vm
[04:54] <PatrickDickey> ok, I'm at a loss now. jakepiano. You could try booting back into a Live CD, and see if it finds your wired. If it does, then you know it's something with your current installation. If not, then it *could* be hardware related.
[04:54] <jakepiano> alright well i'll see what i can do then
[04:55] <orbitwhite> google says ethernet card on his laptop should be on lspci
[04:55] <PatrickDickey> jakepiano: if you boot to a Live CD, do lspci again, and look to see if it shows both connectors. You can also do the sudo lshw -C network as well.
[04:55] <orbitwhite> no doubts
[04:55] <orbitwhite> lspci -nn | grep 0200
[04:55] <orbitwhite> but it is not present and dmesg was keeping silence for all the time
[04:56] <orbitwhite> i bet at this current moment it doesn't work physically due to some hardware related reasons
[04:57] <logi> hey patrick.. i do not hve the option "try ubuntu" I only have "livemode","Install","File integrity check" and "memory test"
[04:57] <PatrickDickey> I'm thinking it's something to do with virtualbox and when that crashed. Maybe ubuntu is still thinking it's a virtual bridge. But, I'm not sure how to find out.
[04:57] <PatrickDickey> logi which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[04:57] <orbitwhite> those r separate things
[04:57] <orbitwhite> nothing related to virtualbox
[04:57] <logi> 12.10 desktop AMD64
[04:58] <PatrickDickey> logi, first do the integrity test, and then "live mode".
[04:58] <Brombomb> I'm running server at home as a media server (DLNA, UPnP).  Is there a way to play audio out to a connected speaker system?
[04:58] <PatrickDickey> logi, you are running a 64-bit computer, right?
[04:58] <Hwkiller> does gwibber's facebook feed work for anyone here in 12.10?
[04:58] <logi> yes
[04:59] <PatrickDickey> Hwkiller: do you have the account authorized in "Online Accounts" (Settings > Online Accounts)
[04:59] <logi> it boots me to a black screen
[04:59] <logi> what should i do?
[05:00] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:00] <PatrickDickey> logi, do you mean when you try live mode? or when you try the integrity test?
[05:00] <orbitwhite> something with video mode
[05:00] <logi> integrity test
[05:00] <orbitwhite> yeah nomodset again maybe hah
[05:00] <PatrickDickey> dr_willis: how would he get that to work in the installer (Live DVD)?
[05:00] <Hwkiller> PatrickDickey: yeah; i've also tried removing all configuration and trying again; removing config from facebook itself
[05:00] <Hwkiller> nothing works
[05:01] <dr_willis> PatrickDickey:  i beluve the url shows how to get into the options screen from the cd.
[05:01] <dr_willis> space at the man=keyboard icon, then F5
[05:01] <PatrickDickey> dr_willis: ok. I hadn't read it.
[05:02] <PatrickDickey> Hwkiller: I'm not sure then. I haven't used Gwibber with facebook statuses. Only empathy with my facebook messenger.
[05:02] <logi> hey patrick..my monitor ledlight is blinking
[05:02] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: do you have a music application installed on the server?
[05:02] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey, so far so good!  Thanks!~
[05:03] <PatrickDickey> logi: did you check the link that dr_willis gave you? !nomodeset It might be the solution to your problem.
[05:03] <Brombomb> PatrickDickey: I have music files on the server, and DLNA apps (plex/mediatomb)
[05:03] <PatrickDickey> logi: you can type !nomodeset to get the link again.
[05:03] <Brombomb> It's a headless/cli only server
[05:04] <Brombomb> so no
[05:04] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, u can use some console player of ur own choice
[05:04] <Brombomb> but I need something that I can control via UPnP/DLNA any reccomendations?
[05:05] <Brombomb> preferrably with an Android device
[05:05] <orbitwhite> oh, now i got it, i only heard about dlna but maybe some player with web interface could fit :/
[05:05] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=command%20line%20music%20players%20ubuntu&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=4ed87bf74c3b6306&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41018144,d.aWM&biw=1624&bih=891 should give you a start.
[05:06] <PatrickDickey> So, you don't want to play the music through the server. You need a compatible player for your other computer?
[05:06] <Brombomb> I want to play the music off the server but remote control it through an interface (web/mobile)
[05:07] <orbitwhite> from the context i assumed that dlna protocol allows to control player remotely, the player itself needs to be run on media server
[05:07] <henry_> hello
[05:07] <orbitwhite> so android box will act as a remote
[05:08] <henry_> I'm having issues installing nodefront and roots(both won't download), can someone help me?
[05:08] <PatrickDickey> henry_: how are you trying to download them, and what messages do you get when you try?
[05:09] <henry_> I'm using npm install -g nodefront(roots)
[05:09] <henry_> i get issues with js-yaml1.0.3 not being installed(for nodefront) and a couple other errors
[05:09] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: one of your dlna/ apps should have a configuration for remote access. Then you just need to find a DLNA remote app for your android device.
[05:10] <PatrickDickey> henry_: could you pastebin the exact messages you get from when you try npm install -g nodefront(roots) to the end?
[05:10] <henry_> yupp
[05:10] <henry_> 1 moment
[05:10] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, im totally lost and not sure, but maybe u should look at vlc features
[05:11] <Brombomb> thanks for the suggestions guys
[05:12] <logi> PatrickDickey
[05:12] <logi> what are you saying a while back?
[05:12] <PatrickDickey> No problem Brombomb. Sorry we couldn't be more help. There might be a channel for dlna on here though.
[05:12] <logi> hows the !nomodeset?
[05:12] <Brombomb> good idea!
[05:12] <PatrickDickey> !nomodeset | logi this is what was suggested that you try.
[05:12] <Brombomb> I also asked in the #ubuntu-server channel
[05:13] <henry_> PatrickDickey: http://pastebin.com/8gJLFi2D
[05:13] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, is that something that fits? http://ushare.geexbox.org/
[05:14] <logi> i dont get :D
[05:14] <logi> can you explain in to me
[05:14] <Brombomb> this works out.... As in shares media from server to device...
[05:15] <Brombomb> I need the other direction
[05:15] <orbitwhite> so it should be sortadlna hub that works in both directions right?
[05:15] <logi> i'll just select nomodeset from the F6 menu?
[05:15] <Brombomb> ya more or less....
[05:16] <Brombomb> I've got it serving up media just fine
[05:16] <Brombomb> now I want it to accept "commands" (play/pause) to play the content locally... and come out of speakers attached to the server
[05:17] <henry_> PatrickDickey: My friend has also attempted to manually install js-yaml(before i reinstalled Ubuntu 12.10)
[05:17] <henry_> PatrickDickey: Even after fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 it still doesn't want to install for the same reason
[05:17] <logi> patrick what should I do now?
[05:18] <Hannofcart> This is slightly offtopic but I don't know where else to ask... I just installed the Athena Widget library (libXaw7 and libXaw7-dev) which I need for devloping an application. However, I find that libXaw.so installed in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu has no symbols defined in it
[05:18] <Hannofcart> Why?!
[05:19] <logi> should i select acpi=off?
[05:21] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, appears that basically there are DLNA server, DLNA player and DLNA control point which connects first two in various directions, looks like MiniDLNA fits
[05:21] <PatrickDickey> henry_: You might be able to get more help in /join #node.js
[05:21] <dr_willis> Dlna is fun. ;)
[05:22] <henry_> ok will do thank you
[05:22] <dr_willis> minidlna and ushare are both handy if you need a simple dlna server
[05:22] <logi> do i need to do some typing of commands?
[05:22] <PatrickDickey> logi, yes. One second, and I'll look at the link I gave you to make sure of what to do.
[05:23] <logi> ok thanks, you're great :D
[05:23] <orbitwhite> dr_willis, so if there is a NAS stock with MiniDLNA, plasma and android phone, can i show what i filmed with my phone on tv holding only phone in my hands?
[05:23] <ripthejacker> how do i add apps to notification tray whitelist using dconf or gsettings
[05:24] <PatrickDickey> logi: on the page that ubottu gave you, do you see where it says to enable it on the Live CD?
[05:24] <PatrickDickey> How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)
[05:24] <bluebomber> I have an LG Blu-Ray burner drive that reads and burns CD-Rs and DVD+Rs fine in Ubuntu (using Brasero), and it recognizes a BD-R disc inserted, but cannot burn to it. Can anyone help?
[05:25] <logi> yeah
[05:25] <logi> then?
[05:25] <ripthejacker> please help how to edit dconf ?
[05:25] <orbitwhite> bluebomber, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[05:25] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  Hmm.. I got an Xios ARM based HTPC-micro box the other day. It does DLNA via xbmc, and has android 4.0.4 i bevlive
[05:25] <PatrickDickey> logi: When you get to the screen that has "live mode" "install" etc, that's where you'll Press F6. You should see the option of "nomodeset" there. Click it, then click whichever option you want above (Live mode or install).
[05:26] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  i got xbmc onmy android phone and tablets now also
[05:26] <logi> i was redirected to the ubuntu logo with moving dots below it
[05:26] <orbitwhite> dr_willis, so dlna allows u to stream something from one device to another? D:
[05:27] <PatrickDickey> logi, did you get to that screen at all before?
[05:27] <orbitwhite> like from tablet#1 to phone
[05:27] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  i stream from one xbmc box to the other  all the time.
[05:27] <orbitwhite> and backwards
[05:27] <logi> and then an error message says "could not load file..... " i cannot see it clearly cause it is so fast
[05:27] <logi> i did
[05:28] <dr_willis> dlna = upnp -  a video 'streaming' service ..
[05:28] <logi> and my screen will be black again
[05:28] <PatrickDickey> Is it black now?
[05:28]  * orbitwhite gone to read about dlna protocol i can't understand what it does and why, wtf why not to mount something and listen from there lol
[05:29] <logi> yeah and my monitor's led is blinking
[05:29] <logi> i have no response
[05:29]  * PatrickDickey thought about setting dlna up on my home server...
[05:29] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  mount how? :) it replaces the need to mount. since things can appear/vanish on the fly.
[05:29]  * ripthejacker needs help editinf dconf or gsettings
[05:30] <ripthejacker> *editing
[05:30] <orbitwhite> why someone needs replace for mount :/
[05:30] <dr_willis> My android phone connects to teh  home network. I can have it play a video from thephone to the tv via dlna
[05:30] <dr_willis> orbitwhite:  ever have a mounted network server disconnect?
[05:30] <orbitwhite> oh thats what i was asking about
[05:30] <orbitwhite> now i got it
[05:30] <PatrickDickey> logi, The only other thing I can suggest is downloading a different DVD. The Alternate or Server DVD, or Minimal install DVD, and installing from that. When you burn it, make sure you set the burn speed to the LOWEST setting.  You can always install ubuntu-desktop afterwards.
[05:30] <dr_willis> Samsung calls their dlna stuff 'allshare'
[05:30] <Brombomb> but I have my server hosting the content so I can get it on my phone/ps3/tv
[05:30] <orbitwhite> no i never had mounted server to disconnect
[05:31] <orbitwhite> i got serious vpn network around everywhere in my place
[05:31] <ripthejacker> please help with dconf
[05:31] <logi> how about havin it installed through USB?
[05:31] <orbitwhite> resistant to disconnects lol
[05:31] <Brombomb> but what I want now is to have the content on the server, play locally on that server, but control it with my devices (android, ps3 etc)
[05:31] <logi> can you suggest any bootable USB maker?
[05:31] <Brombomb> what OS logi
[05:31] <logi> ubuntu 12.10
[05:31] <logi> desktop amd64
[05:32] <dr_willis> logi:  dozens of linux to usb tools at the 'pendrivelinux'  web site
[05:32] <dr_willis> logi:  or you can image teh iso straight to USB
[05:32] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: He's trying to install Ubuntu 12.10, but it won't load the installer. It just goes to a black screen--regardless of what he does.
[05:32] <logi> how's that?
[05:32] <PatrickDickey> !unetbootin | logi this is what I use to make bootable USB Drives
[05:33] <logi> it says, file could not be loaded... etc
[05:33] <orbitwhite> unetbootin also works fine
[05:33] <PatrickDickey> I think it might be a bad DVD burn, myself. Even the integrity check won't load up.
[05:33] <logi> does ubuntu have issues with AMD FM2's?
[05:34] <orbitwhite> i heard something about amd issues with windows
[05:34] <orbitwhite> windows issues with amd*
[05:34] <logi> btw patrick thank you :D
[05:34] <logi> what about ubuntu?
[05:35] <orbitwhite> everything should be great when it comes to basic components support such as cpu
[05:35] <PatrickDickey> logi, you could always try 12.04 and get it installed. Then upgrade to 12.10 from there.
[05:35] <orbitwhite> especially cpus and memory
[05:35] <logi> ok maybe i could download another one
[05:35] <logi> thanks :D
[05:36] <PatrickDickey> No problem. Like I said before, burn it at whatever the slowest speed possible is.
[05:36] <orbitwhite> there is something wrong with installation process or media u install from
[05:36] <orbitwhite> consider some "unetbootin" as an option
[05:36] <logi> i think my installer is corrupted or something
[05:37] <Brombomb> gotta love using a 55" TV as a monitor
[05:37] <orbitwhite> logi, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:37] <logi> hey guys. what do you think about the LTS?
[05:37] <logi> that's the one I used :D
[05:37] <orbitwhite> lts is for long term support
[05:37] <logi> thanks orbit
[05:38] <logi> what about that?
[05:38] <PatrickDickey> That's what I'm recommending you try.
[05:38] <logi> oh i see
[05:38] <PatrickDickey> 12.04 is the LTS, and then 14.04 will be the next one.
[05:38] <logi> oh ok.
[05:39] <logi> actually this is my first time to use open source os thats why i have many questions
[05:39] <PatrickDickey> logi: Personally, I'd stay on it for a bit also. At least until you know everything's working right. Then you can always upgrade.
[05:39] <orbitwhite> logi, there would be much more later, don't worry about it
[05:40] <logi> yeah. everyone's moving to open source
[05:40]  * PatrickDickey has beeon on Ubuntu for a few years, and I still have questions--and problems.
[05:40] <logi> ok :D
[05:41] <orbitwhite> slackware was a good start for me, but laziness brought me to ubuntu
[05:42] <PatrickDickey> I've played with slackware a bit. Only for recompiling kernels.
[05:42] <logi> what's the difference of an alternate installer from the desktop?
[05:42] <Brombomb> dang it broke my system
[05:42] <orbitwhite> it includes much to play with u don't want actually as for me =)
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> It's just a different type of installer logi. You can try either one. The "desktop" gives you a chance to try it before you buy it, so to speak. With the alternate, you're installing it.
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> Brombomb: what broke your system?
[05:43] <logi> what do you recommend?
[05:43] <Brombomb> system disk check "Fix itself"
[05:43] <zebaszp> go
[05:43] <PatrickDickey> logi: Try the desktop one first. Then install from there. If that doesn't work, then get the alternate.
[05:44] <logi> it can always be dual booted with windows right?
[05:44] <PatrickDickey> logi: Yep. That's what a lot of people start out with. It will handle everything for you.
[05:44] <zebaszp> it's
[05:44] <logi> ok thanks.
[05:44] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, sometimes when something goes bad with hdd, fsck finishes it to the end
[05:45] <PatrickDickey> logi: You'll get to a screen that says something like "Ubuntu has detected another operating system." Choose the option to install alongside Windows.
[05:45] <logi> ok thanks
[05:45] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, won't it install on ntfs this way?
[05:46] <zebaszp> orbitwhite,
[05:46] <orbitwhite> i mean on mapped ntfs partition as squashfs image or something
[05:46] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: no, it will repartition the space, and make that ext4, I think. I've always created my partitions first, but I don't think we want to go there tonight. ;-)
[05:46] <zebaszp> if
[05:46] <orbitwhite> zebaszp, ?
[05:47] <zebaszp> the
[05:47] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: are you thinking about the wubi install maybe?
[05:47] <zebaszp> it
[05:47] <orbitwhite> PatrickDickey, oh probably yeah
[05:48] <angelx> HEY'
[05:48]  * orbitwhite afraid of zebaszp 
[05:48] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: please type everything out then hit enter. (If you are then please forgive me. I'm only seeing little bits).
[05:48] <zebaszp> i'm
[05:48] <zebaszp> maybe
[05:49] <zebaszp> either
[05:49] <zebaszp> *can't
[05:50] <zebaszp> either
[05:51] <zebaszp> I
[05:52] <zebaszp> G210,
[05:52] <zebaszp> (and
[05:52] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: yes or no, are you typing complete sentences before you hit enter?
[05:53] <threex5> hi, does anyone have experience with lirc? I've got it working with pulseaudio, vlc and xbmc, but now I'm trying to get it to work with nightingale
[05:53] <zebaszp> I
[05:53] <zebaszp> yes
[05:53] <android> nope
[05:53] <zebaszp> and
[05:53] <android> only irssi
[05:53] <PatrickDickey> threex5: I've never used it with nigtingale. Have you looked at their site for information?
[05:54] <threex5> PatrickDickey, I have, and I've asked about it in the forums, but no luck
[05:54] <threex5> i am able to control playback via command line
[05:54] <threex5> but i haven't figured out how to map those commands in .lircrc
[05:56] <PatrickDickey> http://www.lirc.org/html/configure.html threex5
[05:56] <logi> hi patrick
[05:56] <zebaszp> hello? i switched clients, does this one work properly?
[05:56] <logi> i was planning to burn the installer.
[05:56] <PatrickDickey> And threex5 it probably is only a windows plugin, like they said in the forum. In which case, you probably won't get anywhere.
[05:57] <logi> what dvd burner you may suggest?
[05:57] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: yes, it works perfectly. I was starting to think you were a person of few words. :)
[05:57] <threex5> right, PatrickDickey, the lirc support add-on will not work
[05:57] <PatrickDickey> logi are you on Windows or linux?
[05:57] <Brombomb> woohoo rebooting 3x fixed it
[05:57] <logi> windows
[05:57] <threex5> I have gotten the command line add-on to work, though
[05:57] <PatrickDickey> threex5: check LIrc's sourceforge page. they may have the configuration file for you.
[05:58] <Sylphie> logi \ nero is good
[05:58] <zebaszp> ok, I'll burn the other client, then ask for help as planned
[05:58] <PatrickDickey> logi, isoburn is good. Nero is good. what do you have installed right now?
[05:58] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: what was the other client?
[05:58] <logi> magiciso
[05:58] <zebaszp> there, stupid client deleted
[05:58] <zebaszp> i dunno, some stupid metro-based app
[05:58] <zebaszp> i'm trapped in windows 8 :(
[05:59] <Sylphie> doomed
[05:59] <PatrickDickey> logi that should work, you just need to check the options to set the speed to 4x or whatever the lowest number is.
[05:59] <logi> ok
[05:59] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: Aside from the obvious that you're trying to do something with Linux, what do you think of Windows 8?
[06:00] <logi> i have 0x is this possible?
[06:00] <zebaszp> in the words of Bill Hicks, "piece of sh*t"
[06:00] <PatrickDickey> logi: i'd go with 2X or something like that.
[06:00] <zebaszp> an unfinished one, as well
[06:00] <PatrickDickey> logi: and get some coffee, because it's going to be a little while.
[06:00] <logi> I only have 8x
[06:00] <logi> hahaha
[06:01]  * PatrickDickey well I won't be buying that $49.99 upgrade or whatever it was) then.
[06:01] <Sylphie> logi \ if magiciso can do dummy test burns, you could check to see what speed your system is good for
[06:01] <logi> yeah it has
[06:01] <zebaszp> it's funny how the Mail app offers POP3, then immediately says "sorry, we don't support it, get IMAP"
[06:02] <qbitza> I recently overwrote an important file with a link to the file. Is there any way of retrieving said file?
[06:02] <qbitza> fstab line: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/data      ext4   errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:02] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ does win 8 allow you to use your own email apps?
[06:03] <undefined_> where i can find installed software folder (ubuntu) please :)
[06:03] <undefined_> ?
[06:03] <PatrickDickey> logi: from what I'm seeing, you should be able to change the speed right before you click the "Burn!" button.
[06:03] <undefined_> some one help.. thanks
[06:03] <zebaszp> yeah, it's Windows 7 plus the silly "Modern UI"
[06:03] <logi> i think so.
[06:03] <zebaszp> an slightly more unstable, I think
[06:03] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: It depends on how you installed the software. Typically it's in /usr or /opt.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[06:03] <zebaszp> performance does improve, though, boot speeds are quite something
[06:04] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ in that case, there are other good (and free) email apps that do support pop3
[06:04] <undefined_> going to xchat folder
[06:04] <undefined_> :)
[06:04] <logi> do i need to install drivers after installing the OS?
[06:04] <orbitwhite> qbitza, maybe if u won't find any solution u will consider R-Linux tool
[06:04] <zebaszp> yeah, I know, but it struck me as odd finding the option for POP3 in the default app just mocked the user
[06:04] <PatrickDickey> !manual | undefined_ This manual is a good "Getting Started with Ubuntu" and applies in a general sense to most linux distributions.
[06:04] <zebaszp> I don't need POP, I use gmail
[06:04] <dr_willis> logi:  depends on the hardware. many peopleneed video and wireless card drivers
[06:04] <undefined_> patrick tell me where can i find xchat folder to add scripts XD
[06:04] <qbitza> orbitwhite, R-Linux tool? Do you have a link?
[06:04] <undefined_> as quiq as you can
[06:05] <PatrickDickey> logi: For the most part, they should be installed during installation. Some may not though.
[06:05] <logi> ohh i see
[06:05] <undefined_> pleaase XD
[06:05] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ oh, I thought lack of pop3 was one win 8 complaint to voiced
[06:05] <orbitwhite> qbitza, http://www.r-tt.com/free_linux_recovery/index.shtml
[06:05] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: Sorry, I don't have xChat installed. I can google it for you though.
[06:05] <qbitza> orbitwhite, Thanks will investigate
[06:06] <zebaszp> either way, Windows 8 aside, I need help to get my Ubuntu back :(
[06:06] <undefined_> what do you have as a client ?
[06:06] <orbitwhite> qbitza, i suggested because there is r-studio tool which is great as far as i heard from people i trust in such questions
[06:06] <orbitwhite> seems like this one is free analog and equivalent
[06:06] <zebaszp> G210 (DVI and VGA ports), CRT VGA monitor; I've been using a DVI to VGA adapter for no good reason, but it's gone faulty, now Ubuntu doesn't recognize the VGA port
[06:07] <logi> do you recommend using the Wubi?
[06:07] <qbitza> orbitwhite, Thanks
[06:07] <undefined_> i'm using wubi
[06:07] <undefined_> XD
[06:07] <logi> is it reliable?
[06:07] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: they are located in your home directory, inside of a hidden directory. Open a terminal, and type cd .xchat2
[06:07] <zebaszp> logi, wubi is somewhat unstable and has lower performance compared to a full ubuntu installation
[06:08] <undefined_> : ) :D thanks .. i wish you a beautiful life and God helps you like u did to me :) :)
[06:08] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: I'm sorry. :) (wubi is bad). Still the folder will be in your home folder. cd ~/.xchat2/
[06:08] <logi> but it install the files the same as the full installation installs?
[06:08] <orbitwhite> who on earth needs wubi, just asking of curiousity
[06:08] <undefined_> many tnx.. :)
[06:08] <undefined_> cd ~/.xchat2/
[06:08] <zebaszp> people afraid of computing
[06:08] <undefined_> many tnx
[06:08] <PatrickDickey> logi it's not good. It's a bad hack way of getting Ubuntu alongside Windows.
[06:08] <zebaszp> afraid of messing up their computers
[06:08] <undefined_> i'll tell you the results later :D
[06:08] <logi> ohh
[06:09] <logi> im just curious
[06:09] <orbitwhite> computers is something one shouldn't touch at all if one is afraid of it =)
[06:09] <bazhang> !wubi | logi have a read then
[06:09] <dr_willis> all the complex little blinky lights
[06:10]  * PatrickDickey I haven't seen anyone successfully use wubi..  But that's just my .02 worth.
[06:10] <undefined_> downloads  keybindings.conf  scrollback  servlist_.conf
[06:10] <undefined_> where to go from here please
[06:10] <zebaszp> I don't mean to insist too much, but I do need help :(
[06:11] <PatrickDickey> undefined_: http://xchat.org/faq/#q218
[06:11] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: what exactly is the issue you're having? If you said it before, I missed it. Sorry. :$
[06:11]  * undefined_ goin to   http://xchat.org/faq/#q218
[06:11] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ sounds like you need a new dvi>vga convertor, if you've got a vga monitor
[06:11] <zebaszp> I did mention it, but I can paste it again
[06:12] <zebaszp> I don't want a new adapter, the video card has a native VGA port which works fine on Windows but Ubuntu doesn't recognize it, which is why I'm trapped in this little hell
[06:13] <zebaszp> It used to work just fine before
[06:13] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: Is it a nvidia or ati card?
[06:13] <zebaszp> nvidia g210
[06:13] <dr_willis> IF he says S3 im running.. ;)
[06:13]  * PatrickDickey has an S3 somewhere in a box.... Waiting for Spring cleaning.
[06:14] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ if you boot the install disc, does the video work?
[06:14] <dr_willis> Id be curious if older ubuntu's or other disrtos properly see the vga port and work.
[06:14]  * orbitwhite suggest to send a gift with s3 to dr_willis 
[06:14] <orbitwhite> s*
[06:14] <zebaszp> oh god, I hadn't thought of that, how silly of me :P
[06:14] <zebaszp> my guess would be yes, since it worked before
[06:14] <PatrickDickey> I can say that Ubuntu 12.04 sees VGA ports and works. I've used it on my mythbuntu box. Up until about a month ago.
[06:15] <zebaszp> there must be some X.org misconfiguration or something
[06:15] <dr_willis> Try a 12.04 live cd - and see if it still works.. could be somthing  weird going on.
[06:15] <logi> what can you say about raring guys?
[06:15] <zebaszp> I'm using 12.10 32-bits
[06:15] <orbitwhite> i havn't experience such problem for 9 years
[06:15] <orbitwhite> lol
[06:15] <dr_willis> logi:  its a work in progress and in #ubuntu+1  ;)
[06:15] <dr_willis> a 9 yr old video card?
[06:15] <PatrickDickey> logi: wait for about five months before trying it. ;)
[06:16] <logi> i heard they already released a beta version
[06:16] <logi> have u tried it?
[06:16] <PatrickDickey> wb BONG_IT. How's your computer coming along?
[06:16] <Brombomb> 'start-stop-daemon -x /usr/local/bin/gmediarender -c pi:audio -S -- -f "Raspberry" -d'  does anyone know the -- -f flags?  Can't find it in the man page
[06:16] <dr_willis> logi: discussion about it in  #ubuntu+1  ;)
[06:16] <Sylphie> does the nvidia driver even have a confguration item for which output to use?
[06:16] <BONG_IT> i cant find my installation of software
[06:17] <PatrickDickey> logi: I won't try it for another couple of weeks or so. And I'll only try it, because I'm on the Ubuntu Manual project, and we are going to release a version for it.
[06:17] <BONG_IT> where i can find my softwares installation
[06:17] <PatrickDickey> which software did you install, and how?
[06:18] <zebaszp> I used the little adapter (which now displays everything in an eye-straining purple tone), but the nvidia config tool shows only one port: the current monitor
[06:18] <BillyBeagle> what do you think the * means in this?   mysql> GRANT ALL ON abe.* TO bpn@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'abc';
[06:18] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: what happens if you shut down, plug it into the other port, and start up again?
[06:18] <zebaszp> so I'm pretty sure my installation is fine, (except for X.Org config, maybe)
[06:18] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ I wouldn't call your problem "hell", more like a visit from Phil the prince of insufficient light
[06:18] <BillyBeagle> should be replaced with X
[06:19] <orbitwhite> BillyBeagle, columns maybe?
[06:19] <zebaszp> my problem isn't hell, Windows 8 is (to a certain degree, at least)
[06:19] <orbitwhite> or tables :/
[06:19] <BillyBeagle> naw, table structor is build by the program later
[06:19] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: It means that bpn will have all priviledges to every table inside of the abe database, IIRC.
[06:19] <BillyBeagle> just leave it as it?
[06:20] <zebaszp> still, I have the feeling I need to add stuff manually into xorg.conf
[06:20] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: did you set it up like that, or someone else?
[06:20] <BillyBeagle> im reading a walk though
[06:20] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: I'd follow the walk through then. If it says that, then type that.
[06:20] <zebaszp> with which I'm not acquainted at all
[06:21] <PatrickDickey> I'm pretty sure you'll see the reasoning later on.
[06:21] <orbitwhite> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/grant.html
[06:21] <zebaszp> sorry, missed your question, PatrickDickey: ubuntu works fine with the DVI port (albeit the adapter is slightly faulty)
[06:22] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ if th nvidia util sees only one output, then X isn't going to see more than one, so it's unlikely your problem is a misconfiguration
[06:22] <zebaszp> well, I'm at a total loss, then
[06:23] <BillyBeagle> ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that                            corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'mysql
[06:23] <zebaszp> luckly I don't have a ton of info in there, but I'd rather not reinstall if possible
[06:23] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia might give you a start.
[06:23] <BillyBeagle> I feel the guy im implying I replace the * with something
[06:23] <k4m3h4t3> i have problem http://pastebin.com/hEiXcRg4 . what solution
[06:24] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: don't type the mysql> portion.
[06:24] <BillyBeagle> oh ha, ok that was it im crazy
[06:24] <BillyBeagle> thx
[06:24] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: That's just to show you what the prompt should look like.
[06:24] <zebaszp> hmm, maybe I should have mentioned? I am using the latest xorg-edgers nvidia driver (not the rest of the packages, though, just that driver)
[06:24] <PatrickDickey> BillyBeagle: no problem. Been there, done that..... Too many times.
[06:24] <Sylphie> zebaszp \ so you've removed the dvi>vga adapter and the vga port still only works from windows?
[06:25] <k4m3h4t3> what should i do about my problem
[06:25] <orbitwhite> k4m3h4t3, google it first
[06:25] <giNeeRing> Anyone know why I am getting such terrible decompression speeds. 17kb/s
[06:25] <zebaszp> yes, Sylphie
[06:25] <k4m3h4t3> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 16126D3A3E5C1192 <<i type this. but noting change
[06:26] <PatrickDickey> k4m3h4t3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869890
[06:26] <zebaszp> I'll give the wiki a read and come back in a while either with a massive "thank you" or a "please, more help?"
[06:26] <zebaszp> thanks for the support you've already given me
[06:26] <zebaszp> later!
[06:27] <orbitwhite> honestly, this is not the kind of problem that needs much to solve, google should fix it, coming for solutions in such cases is simply unpolite as for me :/
[06:27] <nytrix> does compiz work with ubuntu 12.04 classic desktop?
[06:27] <PatrickDickey> orbitwhite: But, like someone mentioned earlier, if you don't know how to phrase the question, you won't get the answer.
[06:29] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: this might help you figure it out http://linux-experiments.blogspot.com/2012/07/getting-gnome-classic-and-compiz-on.html
[06:29] <mfilipe> Ubuntu 12.04LTS automagically align partitions on SSD?
[06:29] <nytrix> thanks
[06:29] <Sylphie> magic never works
[06:30] <orbitwhite> in my case i did it by hand and i havn't mentioned anything strange or magic
[06:30] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: Just as a word of caution, you're using third party repositories. And you can really mess things up, if you're not careful.
[06:30] <orbitwhite> i guess it is always like that when u do it by hand though :/
[06:32] <Brombomb> orbitwhite & PatrickDickey .... nearly there with this guy....
[06:32] <Brombomb> http://blog.scphillips.com/2013/01/using-a-raspberry-pi-with-android-phones-for-media-streaming/
[06:32] <nytrix> im a regular user on my machine, how do i wsitch to admin in terminal to install something? is it su username?
[06:32] <Brombomb> using the gmediarenderer
[06:32] <PatrickDickey> now for the slightly more serious answer mfilipe. It creates the partitions that you need/request. As for aligning them, I'm not sure what you mean. It creates and sets the proper flags, and creates a bootloader to boot them.
[06:33] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: You'll use sudo and your login password. su - is not recommended with ubuntu.
[06:33] <orbitwhite> i always use su and `sudo su` but im retarded
[06:33] <nytrix> i use sudo but doesnt ask for admin password
[06:34] <PatrickDickey> it should ask for your password.
[06:34] <nytrix> just asks for regular usr passwd
[06:34] <mfilipe> I'm going to install Ubuntu on my new laptop which uses SSD. I read that ssd align is very important for better performance. So, I wanna now if the Ubuntu installer calculates the ssd align automagically.
[06:34] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: that's because you're the admin.
[06:34] <nytrix> nytrix is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:34] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, not that really matters actually
[06:34] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: Are you the only user on the computer?
[06:35] <nytrix> no
[06:35] <mfilipe> orbitwhite, really? why?
[06:35] <PatrickDickey> nytrix: Do you know the login information for the other user?
[06:35] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, because i didn't mentioned anything wrong
[06:35] <nytrix> and i dont want to keep logging in and out everytime
[06:35] <nytrix> yes
[06:35] <Sylphie> nytrix \ interpol is unlikely to come visit you
[06:36] <PatrickDickey> nytrix then you can use su - username. it's just not recommended. The question that I have is, why don't you set yourself as an admin?
[06:36] <nytrix> so i have to log in and back in as admin to perform admin commands in terminal?
[06:36] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, correct options for operating with ssd storage media really do matter, but there r tons of howtos on google about it
[06:37] <nytrix> i dont know
[06:37] <nytrix> lol
[06:37] <Finklepants> anyone able to help me getting wifi resolved it keeps hanging up and d/c  -  i have Atheros AR9485 / Ath9k
[06:37] <PatrickDickey> lol If I had to guess, I'd say you're used to the Windows way.  Limited users and computer administators.
[06:37] <Sylphie> nytrix \ the other solution would be to give your user account more privs
[06:38] <devvrat_> my is working slow ...what to do??
[06:38] <nytrix> i know
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> devvrat_: describe more
[06:38] <nytrix> thanks guys
[06:38] <nytrix> :)
[06:39] <PatrickDickey> Finklepants: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11345041 might be a starting point.
[06:39] <orbitwhite> mfilipe, http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/SSD_Tuning_for_Linux#SSD_trim.2C_Partition_Alignment.2C_and_Erase_Block_Size looks like this paper covers all questions including partitioning
[06:39] <devvrat_> ubuntu is very slow than windows in my pc any reasion
[06:39] <Sylphie> no distro of linux should be slower than windows
[06:39] <devvrat_> belive me
[06:40] <xx4h> devvrat_, what is slow.
[06:40] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: what graphics card do you have installed?
[06:40] <devvrat_> opening the application moving scoller etc
[06:40]  * PatrickDickey had that issue with an older ATI card, and the open source drivers.
[06:40] <devvrat_> ati card
[06:40] <xx4h> devvrat_, maybe you have to install gpu-driver?
[06:40] <PatrickDickey> Which ati card, devvrat_
[06:41] <devvrat_> dont know
[06:42] <devvrat_> i have tryed many driver but dosent work
[06:42] <Brombomb> bad idea adding the pulse user to the root group?
[06:42] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: Open a terminal window (CTRL+Alt+T) and type lspci | grep VGA in. Tell us what it says
[06:43] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: you can copy and paste that, to make it easier.
[06:43] <orbitwhite> Brombomb, adding users to root group is always not a perfect solution talking of security
[06:43] <Finklepants> i tryed all of that nosence already, i know this was i know bug or something but cant find if its fixed. it worked great in 11 but went to 12 and wifi keeps hanging up
[06:44] <devvrat_> ATI RC410 (radeon xpress 200M)
[06:45] <orbitwhite> Finklepants, not a very good idea but often latest compat-wireless helps to solve something related to stable work
[06:46] <Finklepants> does that have chance of breaking wifi completely?
[06:47] <orbitwhite> define breaking
[06:47] <Sylphie> Finklepants \ I have seen linux wreck hardware before. Life is full of risks
[06:48] <Finklepants> k given it a shot
[06:48] <orbitwhite> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
[06:50] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: That's an old card. Ubuntu may not support it anymore, as ATI doesn't necessarily support it now.
[06:51] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: If Ubuntu does support it, it'll be with Unity 2D at the most, and they're phasing that out. You *might* be able to use something like lubuntu or xubuntu though.
[06:51] <orbitwhite> or get mate
[06:52] <PatrickDickey> devvrat_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/215181/no-unity-after-ubuntu-12-10-upgrade might help out though. I used it with my card, for a bit. But I have a newer "old" card.
[06:53] <devvrat_> okk thanks for help
[06:53] <PatrickDickey> No problem. Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
[06:53] <devvrat_> no pro.
[06:56] <cellofellow> My dash and hud, alt tab, most of unity really, has been really quite dragging lately. Is there a way to clean it up, remove crufty stuff in there somewhere so it will speed back up?
[06:57] <PatrickDickey> cellofellow: it sounds like you're having the graphics card issues too. Which card do you have?
[06:57] <cellofellow> PatrickDickey: HD 4000
[06:58] <cellofellow> Intel
[06:58] <miroesq> I was told that I should never log in as root , but rather log in as a normal user and use sudo. Does that mean I should not enable the root account to begin with as well?
[06:58] <PatrickDickey> Intel or ATI Radeon?
[06:58] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: you shouldn't need to enable the root account at all. In fact, it isn't enabled in a default installation.
[06:59] <cellofellow> miroesq: yes, don't enable root, you can do everything root can do without running user programs by using sudo.
[06:59] <cellofellow> s/user programs/user programs as root/
[06:59] <cellofellow> PatrickDickey: Intel HD 4000
[07:00] <miroesq> i was really using root so i can log in with ssh and move files around, change permissions. it was just easier for me to use than linux
[07:00] <cellofellow> miroesq: sudo -s
[07:00] <PatrickDickey> cellofellow: Not sure then. You could check the forums to see if anyone has issues with that card.
[07:00] <miroesq> cellofellow: my ssh is a GUI. I use winscp
[07:01] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: what cellofellow said. Or just sudo works too. You log in with the user account, and just sudo comand.
[07:01] <hagzag_> Hi, I have question regarding apt-get urls behind explicit proxy is this the right place ?
[07:02] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: what's the question. We might be able to answer it.
[07:02] <cellofellow> miroesq: if you are scping only then root account, while still unadviseable, is less of a problem than if you intend to log in a full desktop session.
[07:02] <zebaszp> hello there!
[07:02] <PatrickDickey> wb zebaszp. Did everything work out?
[07:03] <miroesq> cellofellow: how do i disable the root account then or should i just leave it as is and not log in with it?
[07:03] <zebaszp> I ended up uninstalling the nvidia driver from a tty
[07:03] <zebaszp> sure enough, the desktop's back
[07:03] <zebaszp> and my goodness, galluim drivers work a lot better than I recalled
[07:03] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: how did you enable the root account?
[07:04] <cellofellow> miroesq: probably best way to disable root account is sudo passwd root --delete
[07:04] <_dmn> How to change a file which needs root permission using the GUI?
[07:04] <hagzag_> I see your discussing Nvidia I have thinkPad W520, and I havent yet found a way to configure it [tried a ton of howtos]
[07:04] <hagzag_> _dmn = use "gksudo nautilus"
[07:04] <miroesq> cellofellow: I created a password then i enabled the account
[07:04] <miroesq> sudo passwd root
[07:04] <miroesq> sudo passwd –u root
[07:05] <cellofellow> miroesq: yeah, just use the --delete option on passwd
[07:05] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: sudo passwd -dl root will disable the root account.
[07:05] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:05] <miroesq> thank you very much guys
[07:05] <zebaszp> I've backed up and deleted xorg.conf, and purged the nvidia packages, I'll reboot and try to install them back
[07:05] <zebaszp> brb
[07:06] <cellofellow> I've been using gnome-shell on my computer at work, which is I'll admit a much faster machine than this (this is an i5 with 4GB ram, the other is a Phenom 8 core with 32GB ram) but it really shouldn't be this much slower with Unity.
[07:06] <hagzag_> apt-get urls behind explicit proxy anyone ?
[07:07] <_dmn> hagzag_: Thanks a lot, it worked.:)
[07:07] <hagzag_> _dmn: np, enjoy
[07:09] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: you're behind a proxy, and want to get to apt-get right?
[07:10] <hagzag_> yes, but I nned to provide a list of url's to our GSO Dept so they will add the urls
[07:10] <hagzag_> the apt-get configuration part of the proxy should be simple :)
[07:11] <hagzag_> the big Q with all the mirrors which url's should I be enabeling
[07:11] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: will they take domains, or do you need the exact urls?
[07:11] <hagzag_> I can try domains and see if it flys :)
[07:11] <PatrickDickey> If they'll take entire domains, then it's ubuntu.com. Otherwise it's archives.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com and a few more. I'd have to do an update to figure it out.
[07:12] <hagzag_> so what you mean is add *.ubuntu.com should suffice ?
[07:12] <PatrickDickey> Yep. That should work.
[07:12] <hagzag_> thanks wil try that then
[07:14] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: what about when executing a script, I should be logged in as root then, correct?
[07:14] <mvt007geek> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:14] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: nope. you'll use sudo if it requires root access.
[07:14] <zebaszp> while I wait for the nvidia package to download, I had a little question that's been bugging me for some while
[07:15] <PatrickDickey> hagzag_: here's my list of archives. YMMV though. what you could do, is try apt-get update, and copy the list of sites.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533629/
[07:15] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: yes, but the password is only good for 15 minutes, i ran an install script that lasted for about an hour
[07:16] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: It'll prompt you whenver a command requires the password. Or it should. If not, then you can change the commands inside of the script to include sudo.
[07:16] <zebaszp> Deja Dup gives me a "/usr/bin/duplicity" error ever since the 2nd backup (I configured it with Ubuntu One)
[07:16] <PatrickDickey> and miroesq what script are you running, if you don't mind my asking.
[07:16] <miroesq> freeswitch and fusionpbx
[07:17] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: is there a way to increase the amount of time from 15 to 2 hours or so?
[07:17] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: not that I'm aware of. I've never tried though.
[07:18] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: i will not be able to change anything in the script as i am so not technical enough, so i think i will enable the root and disable it once i am done with any script installs
[07:18] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: does the script ask you for sudo password at all?
[07:19] <miroesq> don't know. i had installed it using root :)
[07:20] <zebaszp> YES! YES!
[07:20] <zebaszp> finally! my desktop, back to it's full glory!
[07:20] <PatrickDickey> miroesq: It should either prompt you, or tell you that you need to run sudo. And I think it will keep that script running as root while it's going.
[07:20] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: Glad to hear it. :D
[07:20] <zebaszp> admitedly, I'm using one of the repo drivers instead of the xorg-edgers one, but still
[07:21] <zebaszp> thanks a lot for your support, you are all amazing people
[07:21] <PatrickDickey> Glad to help. :)
[07:21] <zebaszp> I wish I could contribute to the community in more meaningful ways, but I'll just keep promoting Ubuntu for the time being
[07:22] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: I'm sure you can contribute. Everything you've learned here, will help someone else.
[07:23]  * PatrickDickey breaks his computer on a regular basis....  And learns from it.
[07:23] <zebaszp> I'll drop by the IRC more often, I'd never actually used it before, it's great
[07:23] <zebaszp> Trial and error. Mostly error.
[07:24] <PatrickDickey> Yep it is. I got hooked on it (irc) back in the days of MSN chats. I used to run a room there.
[07:24] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: i just looked at the script and i did execute everything having to do with it using sudo. so what does that mean?
[07:24] <zebaszp> I'll just listen to the Jonoboard for a while, just to celebrate how awesome communities are (ours and in general)
[07:25] <PatrickDickey> It means that you probably didn't need to be root, miroesq.
[07:25] <miroesq> PatrickDickey: mind you, i am not talking about what is inside the script as i don't know that. i am just talking about chmoding, moving and running it
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> Hey guys
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> I'm just wondering how I go about making sure everything I install on Ubuntu goes to another HDD
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> Not my SSD
[07:25] <Shazer[2]> Like it did last time
[07:26] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: when you get into the Installation, it should prompt you for where you want to install everything. If not, I'd use an alternate installation disc. Choose the "Something else" or "manually partition" option.
[07:27] <Shazer[2]> PatrickDickey: I'm already installed now :/
[07:27] <Shazer[2]> Is there a way to do it now?
[07:28] <PatrickDickey> What all do you want to move? everything, and not use the SSD at all, or just things like your /home directory?
[07:29] <zebaszp> I seem to be missing one resolution, any idea how to add it back? I'm looking at the wiki, but so far nothing
[07:30] <PatrickDickey> zebaszp: I'm not sure. If it's not in the wiki, then I don't really know. They may not know that it works.
[07:31] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106527/how-to-move-ubuntu-installation-from-one-hdd-to-another or maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598869
[07:31] <Brombomb> woohoo!  sweet sweet music
[07:31] <PatrickDickey> Glad to hear it Brombomb.
[07:31] <mladoux> @zebaszp you could try this --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Use_cvt.2BAC8-xrandr_tool_to_add_the_highest_mode_the_LCD_can_do
[07:32] <Brombomb> I used that gstreamrenderer and the trick was unmuting my sound cards heaphone channel
[07:32] <PatrickDickey> Cool :D it's usually the simple things.
[07:32] <zebaszp> I was looking at that :P
[07:32] <Brombomb> so it serves the library content to my phone, which then acts remote to send commands back to the same server instructing it what to play.
[07:33] <logi> patrick
[07:33] <mladoux> zebaszp, yeah, that works in most cases, but I've personally run into one or two where it does not.
[07:33] <PatrickDickey> logi, how's it going?
[07:34] <Brombomb> now to download the Ubuntuphone source and load that up...
[07:34] <mladoux> that's when you need to dig and hope that monitor specs are published with all the right bits and pieces. They almost never are.
[07:34] <x-os_pal> hey all! just installed bodhi to use strickly for studies..i'm comming from arch and i just need someone to explain how the whole root account works here on ubuntu. i heard something about auto-generated root passwords for securty and i just want to do some work as straight root. any links are appreciated.
[07:34] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one ... how can i install cpanel on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[07:34] <PatrickDickey> x-os_pal: you don't normally use root, you use sudo
[07:34] <PatrickDickey> !sudo | x-os_pal
[07:34] <mladoux> x-os_pal, sudo -i will give you a root shell
[07:35] <logi> i got 16x lowest writing speed
[07:35] <logi> is that ok?
[07:35] <PatrickDickey> logi: if that's the lowest speed your drive shows (smallest number) then yes.
[07:35] <Shazer[2]> PatrickDickey: sorry
[07:35] <Shazer[2]> My computer died
[07:35] <Shazer[2]> What did you say was an alternative?
[07:36] <Theodore> hello
[07:36] <x-os_pal> thanks for the quick replies ubottu and mladoux...i understand that but i want full access to root as root. it's definately possible because i doubt system admins use sudo for everything...
[07:36] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: no worries, Mine dies every day. :) I'll scroll up and get the reply for you.
[07:36] <Theodore> is ubuntu for android a cell os or a operating system for cells?
[07:36] <Shazer[2]> Thanks PatrickDickey :)
[07:36] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106527/how-to-move-ubuntu-installation-from-one-hdd-to-another or maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598869
[07:36] <cobra-the-joker> Cpanel on ubuntu ...any one ?
[07:37] <mvt007geek> can someone tell me what sh -c 'zcat ./ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz | dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb
[07:37] <mvt007geek>   do exactly?
[07:37] <somsip> !phone | Theodore
[07:37] <PatrickDickey> x-os_pal: The first link that ubottu gave you talks about enabling the root account.
[07:37] <Shazer[2]> Hmm
[07:37] <DWSR> I assume that http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200712-180/ would imply that the 2950 works with any LATER versions of Ubuntu?
[07:37] <Shazer[2]> I want to install Ubuntu on SSD but everything that gets installed like Chrome or anything I install on Ubuntu goes on HDD
[07:37] <mladoux> sudo -i will give you a full root shell. Root is locked off in ubuntu by default, so sudo is the only way to access it. It's the same as using su
[07:38] <logi> what is the another application you can use for burning ISO's?
[07:38] <mvt007geek> can someone tell me what sh -c 'zcat ./ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz | dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb do exactly? i want to install it on sd card to use on pandaboard
[07:38] <PatrickDickey> Shazer[2]: if you just did the installation, I'd say reinstall.  Put / on the SSD, and /var/usr/home on the other drive. You'll have to create partitions for each though.
[07:38] <mladoux> the -i stands for interactive.
[07:38] <x-os_pal> thanks all!
[07:39] <PatrickDickey> mvt007geek: you can google zcat, and find out from there.
[07:39] <zebaszp> the voice of Jono saying "community" is surprisingly addictive
[07:39] <mladoux> well, i guess you could do it with an ssl key login, but yeah
[07:39] <logi> application that can burn ISO?? SOMEBODY??
[07:39] <PatrickDickey> cobra-the-joker: did you download cpanel or are you at the starting point (just wanting to do it)?
[07:40] <zebaszp> logi: Brasero comes preinstalled, I think
[07:40] <somsip> logi: brasero, xfburn
[07:40] <mladoux> logi -- brasero is the standard for that, but xfburn is a good alternative
[07:40] <mvt007geek> PatrickDickey: i wabt to know the difference between that and this command: gunzip -c ubunut_omap4_image_file.img.gz | sudo dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb
[07:40] <PatrickDickey> cobra-the-joker: http://forums.cpanel.net/f34/installing-cpanel-ubuntu-server-67159.html
[07:40] <logi> ok :D
[07:40] <mvt007geek> PatrickDickey: want to know which one is better to use?
[07:40] <cobra-the-joker> PatrickDickey: i downloaded from the usual wget method ... but then it say that it is not supported
[07:41] <cobra-the-joker> so no cpanel for ubuntu ?
[07:41] <PatrickDickey> cobra-the-joker: look at the link I just gave you http://forums.cpanel.net/f34/installing-cpanel-ubuntu-server-67159.html it might help.
[07:41] <cobra-the-joker> it says that you cant install it there :D
[07:43] <Thor> cobra-the-joker: http://forums.cpanel.net/f145/debian-support-ubuntu-server-lts-support-153517.html is also useful here
[07:43] <PatrickDickey> mvt007geek: I'm not sure which is better. I'd say you could ask in a #perl room though. Assuming it's a perl file that you're working with.
[07:43] <mvt007geek> perl?
[07:43] <PatrickDickey> It's a scripting language.
[07:43] <Thor> cobra-the-joker: Cpanel used to support debian, but not anymore.
[07:45] <zebaszp> well, it's 5 AM here, so I'm off to bed
[07:46] <zebaszp> thanks everyone for your support
[07:46] <zebaszp> I'm no longer trapped in Windows 8 :D
[07:46] <zebaszp> (most of my games are, though, but at least I won't need to install apache on it to test my .php files...)
[07:47] <PatrickDickey> Have a good night zebaszp. You must be around France, right?
[07:47] <zebaszp> not even close :P Argentina
[07:47] <mvt007geek> here is 11 am :)
[07:48] <Thor> PatrickDickey: france would be 8:47 am ;P
[07:48] <PatrickDickey> Wow. I didn't realize that you were that far East. I'm in the middle of the US.
[07:48] <mvt007geek> how is us? :)
[07:48]  * PatrickDickey needs to change his wallpaper to the CIRAF map. :P
[07:48] <PatrickDickey> Cold. LOL
[07:48] <zebaszp> "that far east"? it's UTC -3
[07:49] <PatrickDickey> Right, I'm UTC -6 or 5 depending on the time of year.
[07:49] <Thor> zebaszp: I thought argentina was more east than that O.o
[07:49] <PatrickDickey> I'm normally working right now, which doesn't require me to think. :P
[07:49] <zebaszp> southwest of brazil
[07:50] <zebaszp> I think our timezone is actually wrong, but whatever
[07:50] <Thor> PatrickDickey: http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/terrestrial/broadcast/images/broad-ciraf2.gif :P
[07:50]  * PatrickDickey has something like that downloaded already for my Shortwave Radio log.
[07:50] <PatrickDickey> Yep. Now I see. LOL
[07:51] <zebaszp> I have no idea what I'm looking at, besides "a map" :P
[07:51] <Thor> lol
[07:52] <zebaszp> what is CIRAF?
[07:52] <PatrickDickey> It's for Shortwave Radio Signals. You find your number (or numbers around your area), and look in shortwave radio schedules to find out when they're transmitting to you.
[07:52] <Thor> http://www.jgiesen.de/astro/astroJS/timezone/index.htm is more useful
[07:52] <jaker3333> HAIL !
[07:52] <zebaszp> oh
[07:52] <Thor> zebaszp: you *should* be in timezone q, but you are in p :P
[07:52] <jaker3333> how to limit the size of syslog file ?
[07:53] <x-os_pal> does apt-get support throttling using multiple mirrors?
[07:53] <zebaszp> well, you can't blame me for not knowing, it's not even in wikipedia :P
[07:53] <somsip> x-os_pal: use apt-fast
[07:53] <alimj> Question: When you type a command in Terminal (which is not installed), some software generates this message: "The program xxx can be found in the following package"... What is the name of this helping package?
[07:53] <x-os_pal> somsip: ty!
[07:53] <zebaszp> Thor, yeah, I know, but I don't really give a damn as long as nights are dark and days are bright :P
[07:53] <PatrickDickey> lol No worries zebaszp. The only reason I know, is because I have an ancient (like made in 1942) shortwave radio. Along with a couple of new ones.
[07:53] <Thor> :)
[07:54] <Thor> zebaszp: timezones never make sense other than that night look dark :P
[07:54] <PatrickDickey> alimj: It might be apt-cache, but I'm not sure. Or dpkg. I know you can search in apt-cache for programs.
[07:55] <zebaszp> I know, but I couldn't care less about a 1-hour difference :P
[07:55] <alimj> PatrickDickey: I use apt-cache for searching available packages; however, I do not believe that it chould be apt-cache
[07:55] <alimj> PatrickDickey: I would like to install this software on another platform
[07:55] <zebaszp> alright! I better go to bed now, otherwise I'll sleep till 5 PM
[07:56] <zebaszp> see you all! nice chatting with you!
[07:57] <somsip> alimj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommandNotFoundMagic
[07:57] <mvt007geek> who has installed ubuntu on pandaboard?
[07:57] <mvt007geek> ?
[07:57] <alimj> somsip: Thanks for that
[07:57] <somsip> alimj: np
[08:00] <sphynx> is anyone using emitapp to stream media to his/her mobile device  ?
[08:02] <radopi> does YoltA also spamm you
[08:03] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | sphynx
[08:10] <skp1> how can i tell which version of alsa i have installed?
[08:13] <trapni> good morning
[08:13] <delfries> hi is there anything that would be problmatic if i tried to clean install ubuntu 12.04 over 12.10? i want to go down to the stable version
[08:14] <Theodore> i use 13.04 on my main desktop
[08:14] <MonkeyDust> skp1  apt-cache policy alsa
[08:14] <Theodore> i use 12.04 on my ppc G5Server
[08:15] <delfries> would it be an issue though?
[08:15] <MonkeyDust> Theodore  #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[08:15] <Theodore> yeah its the beta night build
[08:15] <Theodore> the raring version
[08:16] <delfries> well thats fine. i'm asking if there would be issues in putting 12.04 on a disk and installing over 12.10
[08:16] <Theodore> no i would do a full format
[08:16] <Theodore> or install to its own partition or a 2nd partition on the same drive
[08:16] <Theodore> :)
[08:17] <amagee> hey, i'm trying to get dual monitors working on ubuntu 12.04, and now i'm using an intel graphics card
[08:17] <delfries> how do i do a ful format?
[08:17] <amagee> the "displays" widget only finds one screen
[08:17] <amagee> as does xrandr
[08:18] <Theodore> when you load the disc
[08:18] <MonkeyDust> delfries  use gparted on a live cd, delete the partition
[08:18] <Theodore> say format over entire capacity of drive
[08:18] <Theodore> don't use partitioning
[08:18] <delfries> ok that will work i think
[08:26] <jaker3333> no help ?
[08:28] <jaker3333> HEEEY
[08:29] <Tex_Nick> !ask | jaker3333
[08:29] <jaker3333> how to limit the size of the syslog ?
[08:29] <jaker3333> i want it to resert after half a mega
[08:29] <jaker3333> reset
[08:30] <daftykins> jaker3333: look up 'logrotate'
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> jaker3333  guess you need a script for that, better ask in #bash
[08:34] <jebb> has any one be able to boot a ubunt live cd via tftp/pxe
[08:34] <jebb> been*
[08:34] <Eagleman> Is there a way to recieve pop3 email in an imap inbox, my isp does not support imap mailboxes, so i have to convert it myself somehow?
[08:36] <fred-fri> i cant find the additional drivers utility
[08:36] <fred-fri> can someone tell me the name of that app so i can start it from terminal?
[08:36] <dr_willis> in 12.10 its in a tab under the software-sources tool
[08:36] <fred-fri> im on mint, and its hidden in the mint menus
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[08:37] <dr_willis> in 12.04 its 'jockey-gtk'
[08:37] <dr_willis> We dont know what mint does.
[08:37] <daftykins> fred-fri: this might be of relevance: http://www.muktware.com/3952/new-interface-installing-drivers-ubuntu-1210#.UPUVYWfxc-U
[08:38] <fred-fri> thanks yall
[08:38] <daftykins> Eagleman: if they don't support it, there's no way around it.
[08:39] <daftykins> Eagleman: however if you had a gmail account, you could have that check the POP account and automatically store those emails with a given label so you don't have to worry about using a desktop client
[08:39] <Eagleman> daftykins, there is no way setting up a mail system to recieve pop3 and then retrieve the stored pop3 messages with imap
[08:40] <daftykins> Eagleman: IMAP is a protocol that needs to be supported on the mail server.
[08:40] <daftykins> Eagleman: you could create your own mail server, but that'd just complicate matters.
[08:44] <doomlord> anyone know of a hex/data viewer which has an option to display shorts,ints,floats aswell as hex (for the whole display, not just isolated values)
[08:45] <Eagleman> daftykins, i already have my own postfix/dovecot server
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: ghex maybe
[08:46] <doomlord> i'm using that now - it doesn't appear to do that (it *does* have a panel at the bottom showing the value under cursor as int,float etc... but i'm after the main view like that)
[08:46] <BillBeagle> #bitcoin
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> !find hex
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> !info dhex
[08:47] <doomlord> i'll try that. ncurses seems right for a hex editor :)
[08:48]  * MonkeyDust learns something new every day
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> ncurses is sweet
[08:50] <doomlord> ok ghex, dhex, bless dont do it
[08:51] <Eagleman> Is there a way to recieve pop3 email in an imap inbox, my isp does not support imap mailboxes, so i have to convert it myself somehow, i have my own postfix/dovecot setup. Is there a way to set this up?
[08:51] <VP1> using UIbuntu 11.10. How to share internet connection from my  Samsung star duos mobile? tryied n/w manager
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> #if getdeb is up you can get wxhexeditor
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> VP1  for a start, 11.10 is no longer supported
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> VP1: Oneiric is EOL soon (April 2013) you may want to upgrade soon
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: it is
[08:52] <jaker3333> how to limit syslog file ?
[08:53] <doomlord> i guess i can spend a few minutes writing a program to convert a binary file to tabbed text showing all that, lol
[08:53] <jaker3333> logrotate is a backup system.. i don't want it
[08:53] <jaker3333> half an hour of my time gone
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  April 2013
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: or use maths :)
[08:53] <ciphered>  cwhats a good opensource streaming server ?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: steaming to what?
[08:53] <ciphered> vidz
[08:54] <bazhang> archive.org possibly
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: unixlab.blogspot.com/2009/08/five-gui-hex-editors-for-ubuntu.htmlCached - Similar
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> gah
[08:54] <jaker3333> actionParsip is it safe to delete var/log/* ?
[08:54] <VP1> @ ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust: OK, but may I know the general procedure for the connection for the time being until ? update
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> doomlord: http://unixlab.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/five-gui-hex-editors-for-ubuntu.html
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> VP1  you mean internet sharing?
[08:55] <VP1> yes
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> VP1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> !ics | VP1 there's this
[08:56] <daftykins> jaker3333: no it's not a backup system
[08:56] <MonkeyDust> ah bluetooth
[08:56] <VP1> I want to share my mobile's connection with Ubuntu
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> VP1: yuou'll need that guide
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: you could use a minidlna server
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: please use my nick so that the text highlights
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: you can do this fgast by typing act then hitting TAB
[08:57] <jaker3333> daftykins i'm using a script to delete everything i var/log every few hours
[08:57] <jaker3333> is that bad?
[08:57] <ciphered> ActionParsnip: minidlna server like what
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: its a service
[08:58] <daftykins> jaker3333: not if you don't ever want to read the logs the moment after they're deleted ;D
[08:58] <ciphered> ActionParsnip: i need to get a source as a raw stream and spit a url that streams on the web
[08:58] <jaker3333> daftykins and what will those logs do for me?
[08:59] <Eagleman> Is there a way to recieve pop3 email in an imap inbox, my isp does not support imap mailboxes, so i have to convert it myself somehow, i have my own postfix/dovecot setup. Is there a way to set this up, I know gmail is able to do this, you can add email accounts to gmail and then recieve your pop3 messages in a imap mailbox
[08:59] <daftykins> jaker3333: help you when problems occur some day
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: if you have a minidlna client (most media players can do it) then you can browse, then stream your files
[08:59] <ciphered> ActionParsnip: the web browsers dont have any minidlna client
[09:00] <jaker3333> when that day come i know which command line to use my friend
[09:00] <jaker3333> and the word " format " will be part of it
[09:01] <vez> im having erros when kernel is compiling.  It shows this errors http://pastebin.com/g7TbyRJU and then compilation stops.  I've tried changing gcc version and still fails. anyone can help me please?
[09:01] <jaker3333> i'm still using 11.04 by the way
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> ciphered: you could use html5 to stream them via web interface, it's not pretty but it works
[09:02] <circle> May as well ask here. I'm planning a format/reinstall; I have two HDDs, and I want to dual boot Linux and Windows. What do you guys think would be the best partition setup?
[09:02] <circle> I was thinking HDD 1  is just pure windows (320GB). Second HDD I use for Linux, with a parition for /home, /boot, a swap, and a storage.
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> circle  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[09:03] <zigovr> hi all, I have an encrypted partition (/dev/sda7), I added it to my cryptab file
[09:03] <circle> MonkeyDust: I'll check it out
[09:03] <zigovr> however at boot it is not automatically opened, I need to type "M" and then open it (cryptsetup luksOpen) manually
[09:04] <zigovr> I did run update-initramfs several times already
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> circle: hdd1:  Windows sytem and 20Gb for Ubuntu system and 30Gb for /home. Hdd2: partition for windows page file and windows %temp%, partition for swap space, rest for user docs
[09:05] <circle> ActionParsnip: interesting
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> circle: swap and windows pagefile / temp on a different drive gives a speed boost, keeping user docs in its own partition eases backups
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> circle: having a small partition for /home and then symlinking the folders to the other partition will make the access transparent too
[09:07] <zigovr> ok problem solved, my file was called cryptab instead of crypttab -_-
[09:07] <circle> ActionParsnip: that seems quite complex, but I will consider ity
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> circle: its how i'd do it.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> circle: if the data partition is NTFS then both OSes can use the same data asd the Windows OS is unable to access Ext4
[09:08] <Hanumaan> can anyone suggest the problem with this update : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1533757/
[09:11] <louigi> fellas! is there any software for ubuntu to produce 2d animation?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: do you use a proxy for web access?
[09:13] <helmut_> hi
[09:13] <daftykins> lo
[09:13] <Hanumaan> ActionParsnip, yes VPN I use
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> !info tupi
[09:14] <subdesign> how to know what version of php installs tasksel ?
[09:14] <louigi> ubottu, thx will try out
[09:14] <louigi> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> louigi: all I did was ask the duck :)
[09:14] <|nv|s|b|e> I have to logout and back in, my windoze machine will be jealous after this.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: then you will need to tell apt-get to use the proxy too
[09:17] <Hanumaan> ActionParsnip, how to do that ?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: look into apt.conf
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hanumaan: you will need:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf    to get write access (it doesn't exist by default)
[09:18] <wlosio> Hello, i cant turn off my Ubuntu - i click Turn off, ubuntu logging off and i cannot turk off/restart my pc
[09:18] <eisen> :q
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now    does it turn off?
[09:20] <wlosio> yes
[09:20] <wlosio> but idk why dont work by clicking
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue; groups
[09:21] <wlosio> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[09:21] <wlosio> im using unity (Now)
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: and the output of:  groups
[09:22] <wlosio> aa
[09:22] <wlosio> kk
[09:22] <wlosio> wlosio adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: looks ok, i'm in the same groups. works here.
[09:23] <wlosio> on my laptop is ubuntu with XFCE and not problems
[09:23] <wlosio> its like problem with Unity...
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> wlosio: well, gnome :)
[09:23] <wlosio> :)
[09:24] <wlosio> i think xfce using other command to shutdown than gnome
[09:25] <wlosio> ehhh and im againg remove unity, lastly is removed unity because was not usable
[09:25] <wlosio> now is usable
[09:25] <wlosio> but problem with shutodnw
[09:25] <wlosio> and reboot
[09:25] <wlosio> nah...
[09:25] <FloodBot1> wlosio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <wlosio> maybe 13.10 reipairs it
[09:26] <wlosio> lol?! x)
[09:26] <wlosio> okay thanks.. i go to googling ho to de... or wait.., meybe i try Gnome ...
[09:26] <nytrix> where is ~/.themes ? what is the ~ for?
[09:27] <wlosio> ~= home dit
[09:27] <wlosio> dir
[09:27] <nytrix> thnx
[09:27] <wlosio> ~/.themes = /home/<you_name>/.themes
[09:27] <wlosio> okay bye bye
[09:28] <nytrix> i set show hidden files and still cant locate .themes in my home dir
[09:28] <nytrix> i see .thumnais
[09:29] <nytrix> .thumbnails
[09:29] <nytrix> but no .themes
[09:29] <nytrix> is it because im not admin?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> nytrix: i believe you need to make ~/.themes
[09:32] <nytrix> ok
[09:33] <cytokinestorm> i have a bit of a loaded problem
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: ask and the channel will reply if it can
[09:33] <cytokinestorm> i want to re-install windows on this computer and delete linux but i'm a mega noob
[09:34] <cytokinestorm> all of the guides I'm reading may as well be in Swahili
[09:34] <cytokinestorm> when i tried to install windows it said i needed a NTFS file system
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: the windows installer can delete the ubuntu partitions and use the space for its ntfs partition
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: how is this an ubuntu issue, you are installing windows
[09:35] <cytokinestorm> uhhhh
[09:35] <cytokinestorm> well, i need to get rid of linux
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: the windows installer can do that, i suggest you ask in ##windows
[09:35] <cytokinestorm> anand the windows installer said it can't do that
[09:36] <cytokinestorm> thanks I guess
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> cytokinestorm: it can, the partitions are standard, so can be deleted
[09:36] <cytokinestorm> mk
[09:36] <cytokinestorm> just told you it said it can't but thanks anyway
[09:38] <nytrix> i just installed myunity in ubuntu 12.04 classic desktop, where would i locate tis app?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Cybertinus: it can. Ive used botyh OSes a long time
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> nytrix: use alt+f2
[09:39] <nytrix> nevermind
[09:39] <nytrix> thnx
[09:45] <terminhell> oh hai
[09:45] <daftykins> o hai
[09:46] <terminhell> whats new in the ubuntu?
[09:47] <daftykins> many a challenge for those buying new windows 8 computers, wanting to escape to the land of GNU/Linux!
[09:47] <daftykins> that's the general vibe i get ^_^
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: could by OS-less, or home build :)
[09:49] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i mean that seems to be what we get in here lately
[09:49] <quatar> Hi all! I use Precise64-bit. I don't like that when I call an application that is open on another workspace, it tries to send that application to my workspace... But i'd prefer Ubuntu to take ME to the workspace of that application
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: i guess, i think its curiosity too
[09:50] <mokush> any idea why I can ssh login trough putty, but trying ssh user@host.com:1234 throws an "ssh: Could not resolve hostname " error?
[09:52] <daftykins> mokush: maybe host.com isn't working?
[09:52] <mokush> daftykins: it is, since I can log-in using putty, with the exact same details
[09:52] <terminhell> mokush: did you ask it nicely?
[09:52] <mokush> terminhell: even gave it a box of chocolates
[09:53] <gnomefreak> throw it agaisnt the wall or out the window
[09:53]  * terminhell stunned
[09:53] <mokush> terminhell: computers are such jerks
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> mokush: if you run:  cat /etc/hostname; echo "------"; cat /etc/hosts
[09:54] <daftykins> mokush: try specifying the variables differently, such as the switch (i forget what it is) for user instead of user@ and possibly one for port too
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> mokush: does the hostname appear in /etc/hosts
[09:54] <Darkstar1> How do I find out which gui shell I'm using and what version?
[09:55] <mokush> ActionParsnip: it doesn't, but I'm not using a direct ip. I'm using a domain name.
[09:55] <terminhell> I've been sending my computers xmas cards as of '06 so far so good :p
[09:55] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: Do you mean like Unity, Gnome, etc?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> mokush: no, the system you are connecting to is having issue resolving its own name to 127.0.0.1
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> mokush: have you been mnessing with /etc/hostname
[09:56] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: Yeah
[09:56] <mokush> ActionParsnip: no, never
[09:56] <daftykins> terminhell: do they write back?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: ps -ef | egrep 'gnome-shell|gnome-panel|unity'   may help
[09:56] <terminhell> daftykins: all i get back is a bunch of 1's and 0's. I think they're conspiring, writting me in code and all.
[09:56] <iceroot> how to find out which nameserver is ubuntu using really? at the moment everything is resolved to 127.0.0.1 and i want to know if the real nameserver is 8.8.8.8 or 192.168.178.1
[09:56]  * terminhell hides
[09:56] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: Think I'm on gnome. trying to find out how to minimise windows without the context menu since all I have is a single close window button
[09:57] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: tab complete fail!
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> mokush: try:   grep `hostname` /etc/hosts     do you get an output?
[09:57] <terminhell> iceroot: resolv.conf?
[09:57] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION will give you the desktop. I'm looking for the version now.
[09:57] <iceroot> terminhell: 127.0.0.1
[09:57] <iceroot> terminhell: ubuntu is using an own nameserver (dnsmasq?) and i want to know what nameserver that local dns is usinbg
[09:58] <terminhell> iceroot: just amend it manually in it
[09:58] <mokush> ActionParsnip: yeah, one entry with 127.0.1.1 and the name of the pc
[09:58] <iceroot> terminhell: i dont want to change it i want to find out what 127.0.0.1 is using
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> mokush: cool, that's good
[09:58] <terminhell> iceroot: just add in "nameserver 8.8.8.8
[09:58] <iceroot> terminhell: i dont want to change it i want to find out what 127.0.0.1 is using
[09:58] <simNIX> hello - I forgot the name of a program: a program that lets you make from one web adress a seperate program (browser windows) that looks like a seperate program - does this ring a bell for anyone ?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> terminhell: the file is generated when network manager starts
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: is there a dnsmasq channel?
[09:59] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: good question
[09:59] <mokush> ActionParsnip: is putty not using the same openssh service? how come it works?
[09:59] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: guess i will do some manpage reading
[09:59] <terminhell> ActionParsnip: its hard for me to believe that my verizon mifi hotspot is using google's dns...
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> terminhell: why, it's doing the job.....
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> mokush: you can switch dns to use a different order, may help
[10:00] <terminhell> ActionParsnip: ive set that dns manually
[10:00] <mokush> ActionParsnip: how do I do that?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> terminhell: same applies, if it does the job then who cares
[10:00] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: which desktop did it say?
[10:00] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: It's gnome
[10:01] <terminhell> nevermind
[10:01] <PatrickDickey> Darkstar1: then type gnome-shell --version and that will give you the version information.
[10:02] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: thanks
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> mokush: try:  echo "UseDNS no" | sudo tee -a /etc/ssh/sshd_config > /dev/null     then reload the ssh service
[10:02] <Darkstar1> PatrickDickey: Don't suppose you know how to minimise without bringing up the context menu?
[10:03] <PatrickDickey> Nope, sorry. I don't use Gnome. I'm using LXDE.
[10:03] <hariom> Hey guys, when I record my voice using built in mic of my laptop, there is no audio coming. File size is just 0bytes. How to fix mic issue? Same system mic works in Windows
[10:04] <mokush> ActionParsnip: same error :(
[10:04] <jaker3333> how long is it safe to use an old ubuntu build?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> mokush: did you run:  sudo service ssh reload    then log off and try to recoinnect?
[10:04] <jaker3333> nobody bothers to hack it anyway
[10:05] <jil> Hello
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: i'm sure they do
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: guess which OS wiukipedia uses.....
[10:05] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  i have 11.04 and i want it to be 10 yrs at least before i upgrade
[10:05] <gatuus> do ou know if it is really necessary to put the "ubuntu" user when creating a custom image of ubuntu with cloud-init?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: there will be holes discovered in it later and you will be vulnerable. Why not clean install with Precise
[10:05] <gatuus> "do you.."
[10:06] <mokush> ActionParsnip: I just restarted the ssh service. should I also log-out and try again?
[10:06] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  took me month to make it do what i want
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: don't you think Wikipedia get attacks, on a daily basis?
[10:06] <jaker3333> months*
[10:06] <jaker3333> i use windows XP on another PC. never bothered to update it
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: then it was probably EOL before you even started
[10:06] <jaker3333> an OS released on 2001
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: XP is still supported, its being phased out now (early stages)
[10:07] <daftykins> april 2014 XP finally dies
[10:07] <daftykins> \o/
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: using natty you will get no updates and no suport here or any of the other official channels. You will simply be told to upgrade
[10:07] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: I'd say it depends on a lot of factors. But, at some point, they won't make updates for the version anymore. So, when you run into problems, you won't be able to get current help.
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: the OS will run but the security holes in the packages will never get fixed
[10:08] <jaker3333> PatrickDickey:  will i be able to use latest brower in like 5 yrs ?
[10:08] <jaker3333> or it won't work on my 11.04?
[10:08]  * PatrickDickey knows of a company whos kiosks are still running Hardy Heron
[10:08] <Theodore> hi
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: you may be able to use the archived versions of browsers but they may fail to run as they will expect certain versions of libs in the OS
[10:08] <jaker3333> all i care about it browing the net on linux
[10:08] <Theodore> how are you all tonight?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: how does it take months, just to get web access?
[10:09] <jaker3333> once i used Internet explorer to view a file and the server launched an pplications from my temporarly folder to hack my pc
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Theodore: 10am here, otherwise ok ;)
[10:09] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: I'd say it won't work. As distributions stop supporting the OS, so will browser makers. Heck, Google won't allow you to connect with older versions of Internet Explorer anymore.
[10:09] <jaker3333> it disabled all the programs and alit ctrl delete.. told me to press the OKay button on the screen to continue
[10:09] <daftykins> :D
[10:09] <jaker3333> i forced shut down and logged to another account and scanned teh pc
[10:09] <jaker3333> it found the virus in ie temp folder
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: how does it take months to configure a PC if you only need web access?
[10:10] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  cuz i'm not smart as you
[10:10] <jaker3333> i take ti step by step
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: the newer packages and kernel may make things work out of the box
[10:10] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: By configure, are you saying lock down all non-essential services, or do you mean just getting your stuff the way you want?
[10:11] <Theodore> ActionParsnip, im doing good too
[10:11] <jaker3333> PatrickDickey:  yes i make it as light as i can and i block everhing on the network except 1 port
[10:11] <Theodore> ActionParsnip, its 2:11AM here in southern california
[10:11] <jaker3333> i customize the browser too
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: you can backup the config folder for the browser and restore it in the new OS
[10:11] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: Some of that will remain, if you upgrade. And if not, you should be able to fix everything back up again pretty quickly.
[10:12] <jaker3333> i only run two things.. wine and a browser on it
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: wine is fun, what do you use?
[10:12] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: why wine?
[10:12] <jaker3333> to run 1 windows program
[10:12] <jaker3333> one
[10:12] <jaker3333> browser is native
[10:12] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: which one, if you don't mind my asking?
[10:13] <jaker3333> na. it's a secert
[10:13] <jaker3333> also that program runs best on wine 1.3
[10:13] <jaker3333> the GUI breaks on 1.5
[10:13] <jaker3333> so my luck
[10:14] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: no worries. Wine will still work. And you can install wine 1.3 on newer versions. You might have to do it manually, but you should be able to do it.
[10:14] <jaker3333> ok
[10:14] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: Does it work on 1.4.1? (wine)
[10:14] <jaker3333> i tried but the GUI is missing some edges
[10:15] <jaker3333> anyway.. i'm extremely happy with 11.04
[10:15] <jaker3333> never gave me a problem
[10:15] <PatrickDickey> edges, as in the window is too big, or something else? And more to the point, have you filed a bug with the wine developers about it?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: i recommend a clean install of Precise. If you must hold on to Natty then wait til April next year and install 14.04 (LTS also)
[10:15] <jaker3333> 120MB without page file at start up
[10:15] <jaker3333> better than XP or even win98
[10:15] <jaker3333> total RAM is 2GB
[10:17] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: You're preaching to the choir here. I'm running a DVR on an old Dell computer (like 2001 built). And an Amahi Home Server on a computer I built in 2003.
[10:17] <jaker3333> also the best part is faking your browser user agent on the net
[10:17] <jaker3333> it's showing win5.1 i think .. it means XP
[10:17] <jaker3333> so i someone trying to attack your broswer it won't work on linux
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: i cant think of a modern browser that can't do that....
[10:17] <jaker3333> if*
[10:18] <jaker3333> ActionParsnip:  yeah i know but i meant like what they did on my xp os by hacking me through IE
[10:18] <jaker3333> .exe won't work on linux
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: it will but it will only affect ~/.wine :)
[10:18] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: Yes it will.  Sort of.. You have wine installed. So, in theory it will run.
[10:19] <jaker3333> yeah but when i double click on it it says it can not open the file
[10:19] <jaker3333> must right lick on and chooose run on wine
[10:19] <jaker3333> so it won't
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: the exploits in the app will affect your ~/.wine folder. You don't necessarily have to double click it
[10:21] <jaker3333> anyway ActionParsnip  i will keep it for at least 5 yrs
[10:21] <jaker3333> thanks for the advice
[10:21] <jaker3333> if nothing get hacked i will add another 5 yrs
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: your call but there will be zero support here and zero updates to packages
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: if you just need web acces, you could try xpud
[10:22] <jaker3333> what is xpud ?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: go find out
[10:22] <jaker3333> ubuntu loads apps x2 faster than windows
[10:22] <jaker3333> very light on RAM
[10:22] <jaker3333> and very low on CPU load
[10:22] <PatrickDickey> Oops.. LOL
[10:22] <jaker3333> so i'm happy that this thing is free
[10:22] <jaker3333> unbelieveable
[10:22] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: All of the things you're saying are still true on later versions of linux.
[10:23] <sevenhill> jaker3333,  open isn't mean free always
[10:23] <PatrickDickey> jaker3333: And, in truth, if you're that worried about security, you could use something like TOR (the Onion Router).
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> jaker3333: its been that way for a long long time
[10:24] <llutz> PatrickDickey: how is TOR security related?
[10:26] <PatrickDickey> llutz: In the sense that it hides your IP address for one. I may have misspoke on how well it's related though.
[10:28] <ponzellus> llutz: and your traffic gets encrypted, at least from your pc to the (trusty?!) node ;)
[10:28] <llutz> ponzellus: it doesn't
[10:30] <ponzellus> llutz: that's what this page says, though https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> ponzellus  anonymity is not security
[10:34] <llutz> MonkeyDust: it is, but not it-security, more personal
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> too many tinfoil hat wearers these days, more so ones who don't actually know what they are afraid of
[10:36]  * PatrickDickey hopes he's not a tin-foil hat wearer...
[10:36] <llutz> ActionParsnip: "nothing to hide" ?
[10:36] <PatrickDickey> Otherwise, someone forgot to tell my Facebook profile that. :P
[10:39] <luckymurali> Hi all
[10:39] <PatrickDickey> Hi luckymurali.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> llutz: me personally, no
[10:39] <luckymurali> I have 3 users in gdm, and one of the user if Iam login It is coming back to login screen again
[10:40] <luckymurali> im able to identify that it is resolution issue and my ubuntu is 11.04]
[10:40] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: do the other two usres have the same problem?
[10:40] <luckymurali> no
[10:41] <luckymurali> PatrickDickey: no
[10:44] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742203 is one thread that sounds like your issue. Although they only had one user. But, you can still try logging in without desktop effects.
[10:48] <zerribert> more of a general open-source question here: if I modify the source code of a program under GPLv3, does it matter where I publish the altered version? would it be enough to just push it into my FTP server's public folder??
[10:48] <VP1> Want to change file permissions a folder on NTFS drive. chmod and GUI method does not work as expected. Any way out?
[10:49] <tarelerulz> Can Ubuntu play blue ray?
[10:49] <Mavrik> zerribert, as long as it's available to anyone who uses that program it's ok
[10:50] <VP1> Any answers? Pl
[10:50] <zerribert> Mavrik: thanks
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> VP1  goes chmod won't work on NTFS
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> guess*
[10:51] <zerribert> Mavrik: good thing, too. nobody would have wanted to go through my noobish code that I would have commited to the svn :)
[10:51] <VP1> Thats what the question  is! Then what is the way for NTFS
[10:52] <luckymurali> I have 3 users in gdm, and one of the user if Iam login It is coming back to login screen again
[10:52] <Eagleman> I am unable to get output from fetchmail. I want to see what it is doing. setting log file wont work either, what am i doing wrong?
[10:52] <luckymurali> rest 2 users are working fine
[10:52] <PatrickDickey> Eagleman: are they able to help you in dovecot?
[10:52] <luckymurali> It seems some resolution issue
[10:52] <luckymurali> how can i set it right
[10:53] <luckymurali> im using ubuntu 11.04
[10:53] <PatrickDickey> VP1: You have to go to Windows to change file permissions on a NTFS drive. Or format it into a POSIX - friendly filesystem.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: natty is eol, no longer supported
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> luckymurali: I recommend a clean install of Precise
[10:55] <luckymurali> ok
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> !bluray | tarelerulz
[10:55] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: I'll second ActionParsnip's motion, except that I'll add that you need to log in with a different user (an admin) and back up the /home directories of the users.
[10:59] <luckymurali> ok
[11:00] <PatrickDickey> luckymurali: This might help you, but don't quote me on it. And I still second ActionParsnip's suggestion. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html The user will have to press CTRL+ALT+F2 to get to a console, and then CTRL+ALT+F7 when they want to return to the GUI.  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[11:01]  * PatrickDickey hates when he double paste's links. :S
[11:04] <PatrickDickey> I'm off to bed soon. Have a great day/night everyone. :)
[11:13] <AtuM> Is there a specific channel for ubuntu server?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> AtuM  #ubuntu-server
[11:14] <AtuM> tnx MonkeyDust
[11:14] <Space_Man> has ruby/rails been updated in 10.04 LTS, as there have been several security updates?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Space_Man  700+ people in #ruby, better ask there
[11:18] <Eagleman> What am i doing wrong with my sieve/fetchmail setup??  http://pastebin.com/wh4Q0YFY
[11:18] <mikecmpbll> i'm a programmer not a sys admin so excuse my ignorance. we have a ubuntu server with postfix for sending mail, and we put the sender address as noreply@domain.com, but it's causing problems for some people because their mail servers rightly reject the mail because noreply@domain.com doesn't resolve
[11:18] <somsip> Space_Man: Here's your list: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ruby
[11:19] <Eagleman> I am having problems with delivering mail from robin.poot@quicknet.nl to RobinPoot folder with my sieve/fetchmail setup, nothing from robin.poot@quicknet.nl gets delivered at all:  http://pastebin.com/wh4Q0YFY
[11:19] <mikecmpbll> what's the easiest way to set up the mail address so that it resolves? would it involve changing the dns, or playing with postfix, or both or either.
[11:19] <codephobic> hi
[11:20] <codephobic> I'm not sure whether this is an ubuntu problem or an issue with my ReadyNas Duo, but several mp3 folders I moved onto my NAS are now missing tracks.
[11:21] <codephobic> All in all, maybe 4-5hrs of CD rip sessions worth of tracks
[11:21] <codephobic> is there a known problem with transferring large amounts of files from a desktop to a Nas using Ubuntu?
[11:23] <codephobic> Also, is there anyway I can find out if files have been recently deleted accidentally (or maybe as a result of a crashed file transfer session with ubuntu)?
[11:24] <Space_Man> thanks somsip
[11:24] <blami> codephobic: I wouldn't recommend to move them using nautilus. Everytime I move a larger amount of files using nautilus something is missing
[11:25] <blami> codephobic: probably because of the fact the nautilus is designed by GNOME people who like to add ten or twenty layers of abstraction to everything to be sure there's enough space for code flaws and bugs
[11:25] <codephobic> blami, it seems I've been the victim of Nautilus.
[11:26] <codephobic> I've never really had a single major problem with linux, in all my dabblings.
[11:26] <blami> codephobic: anyway, I recommend to try just rsync it (if NAS supports that) or simply do cp in terminal. Also mc might work
[11:26] <codephobic> mc?
[11:26] <blami> codephobic: midnight commander ...
[11:27] <codephobic> I've never used that, I'm not that familiar with the utilities in ubuntu.
[11:27] <codephobic> hence my use of nautilus to transfer files, rather than using terminal
[11:27] <codephobic> I really didn't know how buggy it was
[11:27] <codephobic> very shocked
[11:28] <blami> codephobic: I had similar problem multiple times when I was copying something to CIFS/Samba volumes
[11:29] <codephobic> blami, sounds very much like my problem. I'm using cifs/samba shares on the NAS too
[11:29] <blami> codephobic: I think it's caused by some timeout which leads to server deleting the file but client sending next file after resume
[11:29] <codephobic> hmm, I'm really shocked and saddened by this. First time I've lost confidence in Linux.
[11:29] <blami> codephobic: when I mounted the volume manually using mount command from terminal and then copy files using bare cp command, everything worked well
[11:30] <codephobic> terminal works fast and smoothly, but sometimes it's easier - much easier - to select and place files in multiple category folders visually.
[11:30] <blami> codephobic: I know :)
[11:30] <codephobic> damn, should just have booted into windows...
[11:31] <blami> codephobic: If this happened recently to you it may be worth to check system logs
[11:31] <wlosio> Hi i have problem with LightDM -> http://hiddenb.bplaced.net/_d/111/20130115037.JPG
[11:31] <blami> codephobic: if something happens in kernel vfs or samba driver it should be noticed there
[11:31] <wlosio> LightDM havent correct splash :(
[11:31] <blami> codephobic: unfortunately this does not apply to gnomevfs and nautilus ...
[11:32] <codephobic> blami, I've only just realised today - I was planning on listening to some music and doing some work... then couldn't find my music ...
[11:32] <codephobic> blami, I think I'm going to have to rip the cds I still have, again.
[11:32] <codephobic> I actually dumped a whole load of cassettes a few months back, hopefully I haven't lost those too
[11:33] <codephobic> wow ... I'm really shocked at how shoddy nautilus is. I know it's buggy and a pita, but this is fundamental functionality stuff...
[11:34] <jlulu> hello guys
[11:34] <jlulu> may i ask your help
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> jlulu  if you're sweet
[11:35] <qwerkus> Hi everyone; how to you record h.264 streams from a webcam in ubuntu ?
[11:35] <Eagleman> I am having problems with delivering mail from robin.poot@quicknet.nl to RobinPoot folder with my sieve/fetchmail setup, nothing from robin.poot@quicknet.nl gets delivered at all:  http://pastebin.com/wh4Q0YFY
[11:35] <jlulu> I'm sure I am:). I wanted to make an upgrade, from lisa to nadia, I changed my sources.list. But things doesn't work well, and now I'm stuck without X server
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> jlulu  mint?
[11:35] <iceroot> jlulu: lisa and nadia are not ubuntu releases
[11:35] <jlulu> MonkeyDust: yes
[11:35] <iceroot> !mint | jlulu
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> !mint| jlulu
[11:36] <jlulu> this is the chan name ?
[11:36] <iceroot> jlulu: that is the channelname and the irc network
[11:36] <jlulu> iceroot: so I have to connect under irc.mint.net and the chan mint ? Is that right ?
[11:36] <iceroot> jlulu: i think so
[11:37] <jlulu> iceroot: ok I try, thanks
[11:37] <iceroot> jlulu: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[11:37] <iceroot> jlulu: as ubottu said
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> jlulu  connect to irc.spotchat.org, then enter #linuxmint-help
[11:38] <jlulu> thx a lot MonkeyDust and iceroot
[11:39] <mLux> Hi, which is the latest stable version of Ubuntu?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> mLux  12.10
[11:39] <codephobic> Is there a stable alternative to nautilus?
[11:39] <mLux> MonkeyDust: Is it possible to upgrade to 12.10 from 10.04?
[11:39] <jrib> codephobic: what's wrong with nautilus?
[11:39] <codephobic> something that isn't out to sabotage your files?
[11:40] <codephobic> jrib, until today I just thought of it as buggy and slow
[11:40] <jrib> codephobic: and today?
[11:40] <hariom> Hello friends. Need help. When I record my voice, recorder shows that recording is in progress and file size also gets bigger as the duration increases. But when I play it back, there is no audio coming out. When I play another audio file downloaded from net, it plays audio fine.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: pcmanfm2
[11:40] <hariom> Using ubuntu 10.04
[11:40] <hariom> 64bit
[11:40] <codephobic> jrib, after realising it lost 5GB+ of mp3s I've been ripping for months ...
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> hariom: Lucid desktop has about 4 months support left.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: got backup?
[11:41] <codephobic> jrib, I used to transfer lots of files from my desktop to my NAS, now I find there are missing mp3s
[11:41] <TheBrayn> hi
[11:41] <jrib> codephobic: that seems pretty serious.  How do you know it was nautilus?  Did you file a bug?
[11:41] <hariom> ActionParsnip: yea, but I hope intelligent people will remain there to help. I will be shifting to 12.04 soon though
[11:41] <iceroot> mLux: you can upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 (LTS Version to LTS Version) and then if you want from 12.04 to 12.10
[11:41] <mLux> in my Synapatic Package Manager, it shows an upgrade button which says I can upgrade to 12.04, but I need to upgrade to 12.10.
[11:42] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, nope - the CDs are still in my cupboard but I dumped my old cassettes long ago.
[11:42] <mLux> iceroot: Got it, thanks.
[11:42] <iceroot> mLux: you are welcome
[11:42] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Would you help to fix that issue?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hariom: good, just so you know :D
[11:42]  * daftykins winds a cassette up with a pencil
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hariom: is the mic unmuted and maxed in alsamixer?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: as in a backup of the ripped MP3s...
[11:43] <codephobic> jrib, I experienced a few crashes whilst transferring files with nautilus, in the past. It seemed that the files still transferred safely, but the mp3s that I've been transferring over the past few months ... most of the folders are either empty or have one or two files in them.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: pcmanfm2 loads fast and it is pretty light too :)
[11:44] <hariom> ActionParsing: yea, Mic 1 is max and has mute and Rec unchecked
[11:44] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, nope I thought it'd be safe enough to just place the files on my twin-hd NAS. It has redundancy (of sorts) and also, I can't afford the space on my SSD.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> hariom: does the system have a make and model? Is it an external mic or built in?
[11:44] <hariom> ActionParsnip: built in
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hariom: does the system have a make and model?
[11:45] <codephobic> thanks ActionParsnip, does it integrate ok with Unity/Ubuntu? I don't want to cripple other parts of the system.
[11:45] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Its Toshiba Satellite
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hariom: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[11:46] <codephobic> I'm actually very shocked - still shocked - by Nautilus' sabotage. First time ever, since I began using Ubuntu as my primary desktop, that I've had a problem that I didn't think was "acceptable".
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: nautilus doesn't destroy data.
[11:47] <agsel> how do I reinstall unity on 12.04?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> agsel: its default installed
[11:47] <agsel> or is there a repair option?
[11:47] <agsel> ActionParsnip: I know, but it's kind of screwed up
[11:47] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, it seems to have failed to transfer my files, whilst reporting to me otherwise... resulting in the data being lost.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> agsel: sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -l | grep unity | awk {'print $2'}`
[11:48] <jrib> codephobic: did you file a bug about nautilus' crashes?
[11:48] <agsel> ActionParsnip: whatever configuration I try to set, it doesn't work. keyboard shortcuts, some compiz options etc
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: then that sounds like the drive is faulty, nautilus just moves the data between the 2 places
[11:48] <codephobic> jrib, I didn't. I googled the issue and found bug reports covering my experience, so I left it at that and just tried to be more cautious.
[11:48] <arabi> http://pastie.org/5687748   all time I am getting the following error , while updating, installing all time :(
[11:48] <jrib> codephobic: which ones?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hariom: use TAB and ENTER to navigate the text UI
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hariom: a URL will be generated, what is it please?
[11:49] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I'm pretty confident that the Nas is ok. I use it every day and I run checks every other week (health checks on disks/raid).
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> arabi: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: i suggest you check the disk health.
[11:50] <codephobic> jrib, the issue regarding stalling/crashing when lots of files are being transferred and the issue with browsing directories with lots of files ... iirc, I saw them on launchpad
[11:50] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I checked - one of the first things I did before coming here
[11:50] <arabi> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  to trnasfer a lot/large files, better use rsync
[11:51] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, both disks are fine, I even used windows to transfer over my web files then checked them against what I was expecting.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> arabi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/201638/postgresql-fails-to-start-on-ubuntu-10-04-4-lts
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> arabi: I recommednd a rename rather than a delet
[11:52] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, I didn't know that it was so risky.
[11:52] <arabi> ActionParsnip, I tried what is saying on that post
[11:52] <jrib> codephobic: I'm asking for a link or bug number; I don't know what you found
[11:53] <hariom> ActionParsnip: It didn't give url at the end. Simply says: Your ALSA information is located at
[11:53] <hariom> Please inform the person helping you.
[11:53] <arabi> but still not working... i also followed some stack overflow posts :( still no way
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> hariom: ok, remove the '--upload' bit  and run it, select to not upload, open the resultinmg file in gedit and pastebin that normally
[11:54] <codephobic> jrib, oh, well, I'll have to google them as I checked the issue a few months ago (I came in here and mentioned the problem too - but didn't think it that great, since the files did actually complete their transfer).
[11:54] <hariom> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2060996
[11:54] <jrib> codephobic: ok
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> hariom: oh, its a virtual pc?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hariom: are you running Ubuntu in virtualbox?
[11:56] <hariom> ActionParsnip: yea, but sound was working fine before
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hariom: why did you not mention that at all?
[11:56] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Because I didn't think it could be problem. I have 5 VMs and they have audio perfectly running
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> hariom: its still detail about the setup, please give full details in future
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> hariom: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> hariom: also run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-iquik/alsa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[11:58] <codephobic> jrib, this is pretty similar to the kind of reports I saw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1075923
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> hariom: all from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure   which I imagine you have been to..
[11:58] <codephobic> I was only transferring 1-2gb at a time
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: try pcmanfm2
[11:59] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Is this ppa from backport? Why not standard lucid one
[11:59] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, is it fully compatible with Unity/Ubuntu?
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  yes, it's in the repos
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> hariom: its a later version of alsa, Lucid has a painfully old Alsa version
[12:00] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, thanks.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: why would it not be. Of course
[12:00] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I don't know, I guess after this I'm a bit wary of assuming things "hang together" properly.
[12:01] <arabi> ActionParsnip, psql --version
[12:01] <arabi> psql (PostgreSQL) 9.1.7
[12:01] <arabi> contains support for command-line editing
[12:01] <arabi>    , but can't start it
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  use rsync for 500+ MB files, it's faster and more stable than any GUI or file manager
[12:02] <codephobic> k
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> a good reason to get used to the terminal
[12:03] <jeffjeff_> join #puppylinux
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: works well here. I don't use nautilus these days, too slow
[12:03] <jeffjeff_> think I'm in the wrong place
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: could even use grsync as a gui to rsync :)
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  true :)
[12:05] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I never cared that it was slow, I figured it was still quite an ok product... I'm just a bit shaken out of my general (naive) view that things more or less work to a reliable standard in Ubuntu/Linux... Obviously I could have transferred things in a more laborious (command line) fashion, but given that it seemed to do the job ...
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: it does, there are alternatives though. Could even use Rox etc :)
[12:07] <codephobic> ActionParsnip, I do like a lot of what it does, but losing files and misreporting transfers ... I don't think that's quite right.
[12:07] <jrib> codephobic: I think you should create a bug report (or find one more relevant).  I really don't see how the bug you linked is the same.  You should explain that nautilus somehow showed you that the transfer had completed and the files were available on the nas when in fact they weren't.  You also said it crashes, so I don't know if that played a part.  But you should mention it.  Especially if this is
[12:07] <codephobic> Anyway, I'm just shaken, as I say...
[12:07] <jrib> something that you can recreate, it would be useful to pin down and fix it
[12:08] <codephobic> jrib, I'll give it a go, I'm just not too well informed on the 'innards' of nautilus to provide much light in a bug report...
[12:09] <arabi> what does this means , how can I fix it pastie.org/5687968
[12:09] <arabi> pastie.org/5687968
[12:09] <codephobic> jrib, I'll rip some CDs and try doing transfers again, tonight.
[12:10] <codephobic> right now, I just wanted to share my experience, get some ideas on alternatives and maybe even other potential causes...
[12:10] <jrib> codephobic: #ubuntu-bugs can help in creating a bug report.  Hopefully, eventually the bug gets triaged and you'll get asked more details that you may have left out
[12:10] <OnlyHalfTheTime>  Arabi, what are you working with? 12.10, 10.04?
[12:11] <melo88> someone that can help me with my lan? If it's possibile with private massage pls.........
[12:11] <arabi> 12.10 OnlyHalfTheTime
[12:11] <codephobic> the crashes happen occasionally when I move large volumes (100+) of pdfs too (I tend to have ebooks on various disks going back to 2000...)
[12:11] <XtremeWiz> I can't install applications on Ubuntu 10.04 with terminal any more. Is it because 10.04 reached EOL?
[12:12] <codephobic> jrib, k... I'll try replicating my crash and then documenting things tonight.
[12:12] <cfhowlett> XtremeWiz, 10.04 is NOT eol!
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> XtremeWiz: its not eol yet
[12:12] <cfhowlett> XtremeWiz, not for a few more months
[12:12] <XtremeWiz> what else could it be then?
[12:12] <hariom> ActionParsnip: Restarting.
[12:12] <agsel> if I want to install KDE to my default unity @ 12.04 installation, is there anything I have to be aware of? Can I just install kde and boot into that?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> XtremeWiz: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update      thanks
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> agsel: you can, you will simply choose the session you desire at logon time
[12:13] <SwashBuckla> hey there, has anyone gotten their Bootchart to work?
[12:13] <arabi> OnlyHalfTheTime,  i am using 12.10
[12:13] <codephobic> anyway, thanks guys... sorry if I was complaining a lot ... Better out than in, I guess. When I get some perspective, I still see Linux (and especially Ubuntu) as something quite fantastic and worthy of the effort it takes us less skilled noodlers, to use.
[12:14] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip, sure, http://pastie.org/5688014
[12:14] <SwashBuckla> I get the error "ImportError: No module named pybootchartgui.main" when I run bootchart
[12:14] <SwashBuckla> I have googled this, errors seem to point to a python2/python3 problem
[12:14] <SwashBuckla> but I don't know how to fix it :/
[12:15] <pro> hello
[12:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> Arabi, "if you are using the unstable
[12:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[12:15] <OnlyHalfTheTime> or been moved out of Incoming.". It is possible that this package is not in the repos for this version yet. Try installing it on a live CD of 12.10 and see what happens
[12:15] <pro> trying to install nvidia drivers
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | XtremeWiz
[12:15] <pro> "you appear to be running X server blah blah blah"
[12:16] <agsel> ActionParsnip: I tried reinstalling unity as you told. but nothing happened
[12:16] <pro> what do? i tried to kill x server process but it just reboots it
[12:16] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip, did that, but I'm still having the same error. Resource temporarily unavailable.
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> pro: why not use the package version?
[12:17] <pro> package version?
[12:17] <cfhowlett> *dropbox* won't install!  Added the repo, did all the steps but it fails at the start command.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534120/  I'm using this guide http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-dropbox-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ and it works fine on my dual boot Win7
[12:18] <pro> i just downloaded the latest nvidia drivers from the site
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> XtremeWiz: try: wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[12:18] <pro> .run format
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  have you visited to dropbox website?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> pro: the drivers are in the repos
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> the*
[12:18] <pro> double click just opens gedit, sh gives me that "x server" error
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> pro: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:18] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, yep, but nothing seems to address this ...
[12:18] <pro> well
[12:18] <pro> it says i already have nvidia-current
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> pro: you don't need to manually download anything
[12:18] <pro> but steam wont run
[12:19] <pro> says i have to update
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> pro: if you run:  nvidia-settings   do you get an error message?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> pro: steam is in beta, so is not a good test at all
[12:19] <SwashBuckla> bootchart error: I get the error "ImportError: No module named pybootchartgui.main" when I run bootchart. I have Googled this and found that this is possibly due to a python2 or python3 dependency, but I can not see relevant fixes on the internet. Any help would be much appreciated :)
[12:19] <pro> no it opens the nvidia x server settings
[12:20] <pro> says my driver version is 295.40
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pro: and does it say the driver version in use?
[12:20] <pro> says my driver version is 295.40
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pro: and which nvidia gpu do you have?
[12:20] <hariom> ActionParsnip: It is still the same
[12:20] <pro> quadro fx 570
[12:20] <hariom> I had killed pulseaudio, update the dist-upgrade and reinstalled alsa
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pro: then the driver is installed and in use
[12:20] <hariom> ActionParsnip: No improvement yet
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> pro: if it wasn't then nvidia-settings kicks out an error
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> hariom: i'd ask in #vbox, get your settings checked
[12:21] <pro> but uhh
[12:22] <pro> "steam requires 304.22 or higher"
[12:22] <pro> "it appears you're using an older propertiary driver"
[12:22] <pro> so no game
[12:22] <agsel> my application switches is the one with small icons and I cannot click on them with mouse. how can I restore unity default one? or some other switcher? I have tried compizconfig settings manager. whatever I do there, nothing changes
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !steam > pro
[12:22] <agsel> I'd like to use some other switcher where I can use mouse for example. the one with bigger icons would be nice
[12:23] <agsel> I tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, unity. nothing changed
[12:24] <agsel> 12.04 on virtualbox
[12:24] <pro> ugh, i give up
[12:25] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip: did that and something's being installed/updated/modified
[12:26] <Hyperbyte> pro, giving up won't help to remedy the problem. ;)
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> pro  steam for linux is very new, so you're kinda pioneer
[12:28] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip, 1068 upgraded, 676 newly installed, 44 to remove and 38 not upgraded.
[12:28] <Hyperbyte> MonkeyDust, if I understand correctly, all he has to do is install an NVidia driver version greater than 304.  That shouldn't be so hard....   ah, looks like he really did give up. :)
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> Hyperbyte  guess that's the dirty work someone has to do ;)
[12:30] <XtremeWiz> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get update worked, and here's the output - http://pastie.org/5688083
[12:40] <SwashBuckla> is anyone here good at analysing bootcharts? I have an incredibly long boot process (2m10s): http://i.imgur.com/l2DOJ.jpg
[12:42] <SwashBuckla> also that resolution is awful
[12:43] <lovre> hi all
[12:44] <lovre> what could be the cause of wrong library name after install? For example, i install libsvn1, and get files like /usr/lib/libsvn_wc-1.so.0 instead of libsvn_wc-1.so.1
[12:44] <lovre> i installed with apt-get install subversion, which installed libsvn1. My OS is 64bizt
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> lovre  lsb_release -sd <- what's the output?
[12:47] <lovre> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> lovre  in 12.10 it's libsvn-wc-1, in 12.04 it may be wc-0
[12:48] <SwashBuckla> is anyone here good at analysing bootcharts? I have an incredibly long boot process (2m10s): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50078832/bootchart.png
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> lovre  or so.0, rather
[12:49] <Godfather_> hi ubuntuoers
[12:49] <SwashBuckla> My boot process starts with 60s of what appears to be nothing. What is going on?
[12:49] <Godfather_> i have rebooted my ubuntu (and seems there is updated something) and now i can't get into unity
[12:50] <Godfather_> it ask me for my user, i enter the password, and then seems entering to the desktop and i get the login screen again
[12:50] <lcabreza> anybody has an idea how to make gta vice city work on wine 1.5.20 or usig playonlinux w/ precise
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> lcabreza  #winehq
[12:50] <auronandace> !appdb | lcabreza
[12:51] <lovre> MonkeyDust: i dont mind it being either way, but other software that need these libraries wont work. For example svn-workbench or rapidsvn (gui frontends for svn) wont work unless i create a soft link with so.1 instead so.0 for those libraries. Why is this, and can i solve this  any other way, since rapidsvn is crashing persistently on some actions with Segmentation fault error, which i guess is caused by wrong libraries.....
[12:51] <Godfather_> now i am on the prompt without X, how can i see the log to see whats wrong?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Godfather_  ctrl-alt f1
[12:52] <Godfather_> MonkeyDust: i am here
[12:52] <Godfather_> yes
[12:53] <Godfather_> but where is the log?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Godfather_  try dmesg
[12:54] <Godfather_> MonkeyDust: and then?
[12:55] <Godfather_> i can't see nothing strange here
[12:56] <Godfather_> MonkeyDust: how can i kill the x-server?
[12:56] <Godfather_> domelike /etc/init.d/gdm stop but this doesn't work now
[12:56] <auronandace> Godfather_: its lightdm
[12:56] <Godfather_> so how can i kill it?
[12:57] <fairuz> SwashBuckla: Maybe you can look up dmesg and see what is delaying the boot process.
[12:57] <auronandace> Godfather_: sudo service lightdm stop
[12:57] <Godfather_> auronandace: /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[12:57] <Godfather_> i get into the login screen
[12:57] <Godfather_> but i can't enter
[12:58] <lovre> !help
[12:58] <lovre> !lts
[12:58] <Sail> ok so i am doing ubuntu minimal install
[12:58] <lovre> what does it mean LTS is long term support, does it mean non-lts versions dont get updates? I never understood this clearly...*
[12:59] <cfhowlett> lovre, lts gets support for 60 months.
[12:59] <cfhowlett> lovre, non lts only gets 18
[12:59] <auronandace> lovre: lts releases are supported longer
[12:59] <cfhowlett> lovre, lts is also, generally speaking, a more polished release, i.e. less bleeding edge
[12:59] <Sail> ok so i am doing ubuntu minimal install now i am done with installtions i dont have xserver install now i want to install python-gnome2 can anybody show me the way
[12:59] <lovre> cfhowlett: what does that really mean? that non-lts will not get packages upgrades after that time?
[13:00] <jpds> Sail: sudo apt-get install python-gnome2 ?
[13:00] <lovre> cfhowlett: so if i want my system to be as stable as possible, i should remain on LTS version till the end, and then switch to another LTS?
[13:00] <radopi> lovre: yes
[13:00] <Godfather_> auronandace: i stopped it and then "startx" i get a black screen
[13:00] <Godfather_> its very sick this
[13:00] <cfhowlett> lovre, exactly
[13:00] <Sail> jpds: i did tht but its showing blank desktop no applet nothing just blank desktop
[13:00] <lovre> cfhowlett: i see
[13:01] <cfhowlett> lovre, note that a new LTS release comes out every two years ...
[13:01] <lovre> cfhowlett: i am currently on 12.04.1 which is LTS. I did a dist-upgrade and it didnt allow me to upgrade to 12.10. Is this normal?
[13:01] <jpds> lovre: Yes.
[13:01] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | lovre
[13:01] <cfhowlett> lovre, so even though 12.04 is supported until 17.04, the next lts release will be 14.04 and 10.04 is still supported until 13.04
[13:01] <Godfather_> I get into the console "Protocol Not Specified"
[13:02] <jpds> lovre: Change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades if you want to go to 12.10.
[13:02] <Godfather_> on the Xserver
[13:02] <Godfather_> when i try to startx
[13:02] <lovre> cfhowlett: i get it
[13:02] <dyd> lol, did they put advertisement in ubuntu?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: if you log in as a different user, is it ok? If you boot to an older kernel, is it ok?
[13:02] <jpds> dyd: No.
[13:02] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: try to google "ubuntu no protocol specified"
[13:02] <Godfather_> it seems there is a lot of stuff with this
[13:02] <dyd> jpds: dashboard, terminal, return, dashboard -> 20 books or stuffs :)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: I'll use duckduckgo, but i'll see what it says
[13:03] <lovre> jpds, cfhowlett, auronandace: thank you all, i understand now
[13:03] <jpds> dyd: That's the Amazon plugin.
[13:03] <dyd> jpds: with prices, links to amazon; looks like adv
[13:03] <cfhowlett> lovre, have fun, be safe
[13:03] <lovre> cfhowlett: will do :D
[13:03] <dyd> jpds: for the love of god, why install it by default?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: do you have an xorg.conf file?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: what GPU do you use?
[13:03] <jpds> dyd: Welcome to 2013, that conversations been going around for a while.. you're late.
[13:04] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i tried other user and i can loginª
[13:04] <dyd> jpds: just installed it after 6 months
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: have you been running GUI apps with sudo. eg:  sudo nautilus
[13:04] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: let me retry with my user
[13:04] <dyd> jpds: i've been on lubuntu for a while
[13:04] <jpds> dyd: http://blog.canonical.com/2012/12/07/searching-in-the-dash-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[13:05] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i don't know, maybe yes, but i can remember cause this session have been active for 2 weeks or so
[13:05] <Godfather_> so i don't remember
[13:05] <jpds> dyd: Better: http://blog.canonical.com/2012/10/12/searching-in-the-dash-in-ubuntu-12-10-an-update/
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: what gpu do you use?
[13:05] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: for now, i can login with other user
[13:05] <dyd> jpds: thanks
[13:06] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i don't remember, but its not nvidia and not ati
[13:06] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=858266
[13:06] <lovre> another question :) when i install a program from the synaptic, i get the latest version. What if i want an older one?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1   can you log in there?
[13:06] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:07] <cfhowlett> lovre, not sure why you'd want to but you can manually install older versions
[13:07] <Godfather_> but as i told you i can login with my usually user
[13:07] <Godfather_> i can login with another user
[13:07] <Godfather_> not with my typically user
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: ok, log in as your user and run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[13:07] <lovre> cfhowlett: if i manually install, will i get updates for that software automatically? i guess not?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> lovre  then you have to look outside the repos, but at your own risk
[13:07] <Godfather_> ok
[13:07] <ciccio> ciaohallo
[13:07] <cfhowlett> lovre, as monkeydust said, expect unintended consequences ...
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: also run:  lspci | grep -i vga   when it is done, what is output?
[13:07] <lovre> cfhowlett: i see
[13:08] <lovre> clear
[13:08] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: ok, wait a moment, its doing the chown
[13:08] <Godfather_> it can take a while cause i have a lot of files i though
[13:09] <Godfather_> can i go to ctrl+alt+f2
[13:09] <Godfather_> to see this?
[13:09] <Guest78016> HI, when i start vmware in ubuntu 12.04 it shows message to install kernel module updater but virtual network device and few other devices are not working and error appears..as"unable to start services"
[13:09] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: done the chown
[13:09] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i have AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series
[13:10] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: LOL
[13:11] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i did a service lighttdm stop and then startx and i get done into my account
[13:11] <Godfather_> it was a problems with the owner of the files?
[13:12] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: this is very sick, i rebooted and now the login is normally, all works
[13:13] <Guest78016> HI, when i start vmware in ubuntu 12.04 it shows message to install kernel module updater but virtual network device and few other devices are not working and error appears..as"unable to start services"
[13:13] <daftykins> Guest78016: often you have to run a configuration script vmware_config.pl or something first. i'd recommend you read the readme/docs
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: what happened to 'its not an ati' ?
[13:13] <auronandace> Guest78016: virtualbox and qemu are in the repos, any reason you are using vmware?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: probably the chown
[13:14] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i thought it wasn't an ati
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: if you run:  history | grep sudo | egrep 'nautilus|gedit'        do you get any output?
[13:15] <auronandace> Godfather_: amd took over ati
[13:15] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip:  yes, 2 lines
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: then you are running GUI apps with sudo, which causes issues
[13:16] <Godfather_> auronandace: yes, but i believed it wasn't ati/amd
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: use gksudo for GUI apps, sudo is NOT for GUI apps
[13:17] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: anyway its very sick to break a system just for using a GUI APP with sudo, don't you think so?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: you will probably find that there were some files in your home folder which were owned by root:root due to them being mangled by sudo
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: its what happens. Technically you can use gksudo for both
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: kdesu in kde is the kde equiv
[13:18] <_porque> can someone help me with a bash where I need to get the remote from git remote -v, does someone know how?
[13:18] <YamakasY> _ruben: he man, also here ?
[13:18] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip:  i usually do 'sudo -s', and then i open some GUI APP, this could be a problem, isnt?
[13:19] <auronandace> !gksudo | Godfather_
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: possibly. sudo -i   will use your user configs rather than root's
[13:21] <Godfather_> ok
[13:21] <Godfather_> thx to ActionParsnip auronandace  very very thx
[13:21] <Godfather_> i will use sudo -i or gksudo insited
[13:21] <auronandace> !yay | Godfather_
[13:21] <Godfather_> ubottu: thx to you also
[13:21] <Godfather_> lol
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: glad we got there too :)
[13:22] <meet> i have winxp desktop and ubuntu 12.04. how to share files between the two on my home network to which they both are connected?
[13:22] <auronandace> !samba | meet
[13:23] <meet> auronandace, there is no other way than samba?
[13:23] <iceroot> meet: just create a share on windows or on ubuntu (right click on a folder) then the other machine should be able to see it using the "network environment" in the explorer
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: I actually email authors of how tos who use 'sudo gedit' in their guides to avoid this stuff :)
[13:24] <iceroot> meet: it will automaticly install samba when you create a share on ubuntu, so you dont have to deal with installing samba or configuring it by yourself
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> meet: could use an sftp server if you install openssh-server you will get one
[13:24] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: i read http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo very interesting
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> meet: or you could run an FTP server (not secure but fine for LAN access)
[13:24] <meet> iceroot: and how do i access windows xp folders here?
[13:24] <Godfather_> its very common to see sudo gedit .. :-D
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: yes, very annoying but i'm trying to clean it up one page at a time
[13:25] <iceroot> meet: open nautilis, click on "network" and it will show "WORKGROUP" or whatever your domain is called, click on that and you will see the windows machine and its share
[13:25] <Godfather_> ActionParsnip: its your page?
[13:25] <iceroot> meet: or just use \\windowshost  in the file-browser
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Godfather_: no, its just one that highlights the issue well
[13:27] <Godfather_> ok
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> meet: did you share folders in windows?
[13:27] <meet> ActionParsnip: yes. but the folders are not visible. only the winxp machine is visible
[13:28] <WeechWeb> meet: Have you rightclicked/share folder
[13:28] <scarofthesun> hello
[13:28] <WeechWeb> Hello
[13:28] <meet> WeechWeb: in winxp i put them in the shared folders.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> meet: if you run:  smbtree   in ubuntu, do you see the shares?
[13:28] <WeechWeb> Ok
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> meet: if you have a 3rd party firewall, is it allowing the traffic?
[13:29] <meet> ActionParsnip: i just installed ubuntu yesterday so no idea if by default is on.
[13:29] <WeechWeb> No
[13:29] <WeechWeb> meet: its not on by default
[13:30] <meet> ActionParsnip: smbree returned my pc name not the winxp machine in the list
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> meet: are both systems on the same network?
[13:30] <meet> yes
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> meet: cna you ping the XP system?
[13:30] <WeechWeb> meet: have you got a win PC to test it with, see if it can connect
[13:30] <WeechWeb> meet: to check if it is ubuntu or weather it is the whole network
[13:31] <meet> i shared a folder and was immediately visible on my android phone through the lan file browser. but my ubuntu machine is not being shown on winxp. WeechWeb , ActionParsnip
[13:32] <meet> ActionParsnip: ping as in ping ip address right?
[13:32] <WeechWeb> meet: yes
[13:32] <WeechWeb> meet: like ping 192.168.0.1 (example IP)
[13:32] <WeechWeb> meet: run this on your windows PC pinging your ubuntu pc and the outher way round
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> meet: whichever makes it work
[13:33] <atlef> my nas seems to be mounted ad afp and not smb, how do i change that
[13:33] <atlef> *as
[13:33] <meet> WeechWeb: how to find my ubuntu ip?
[13:33] <WeechWeb> meet: is it a GUI based ubuntu
[13:33] <meet> WeechWeb: yes
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> meet  knowing IP is the very basic thing if you want to setup a network, better do some reading, first
[13:34] <WeechWeb> meet: ifconfig eth0
[13:34] <meet> WeechWeb: considering the level of my problems i am having you should have guessed ;)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> meet: run:  ip addr
[13:34] <_porque> does anyone here know of a bash command to open a browser pointing to my git repo? like https://github.com/blabla/test.git
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> Hello World, how does ubuntu update an application that is running, without stopping it? what happenes in the background?
[13:34] <meet> MonkeyDust: i know that for windows but not for ubuntu
[13:34] <ioria> meet: do you have a network icon ?
[13:35] <ztane> arrgh init does not reap zombie processes... do i have to reboot my computer to kill zombie firefoxen
[13:35] <ioria> meet: check info
[13:35] <meet> ioria: yes. in nautilus the windows network is visible but no machines or folders
[13:35] <WeechWeb> ovidiu-florin: i think it kills it
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> ztane  http://askubuntu.com/questions/48624/what-are-zombie-processes
[13:35] <ioria> meet: no .... in the bar
[13:35] <WeechWeb> meet: just use this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17012/how-to-find-your-ip-address-in-ubuntu/
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> meet: do you have a 3rd party firewall (not the windows firewall)
[13:36] <ponzellus> _porque: what about <your-browser-of-choice> https://github.com/...
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> WeechWeb: no, it doesn't
[13:36] <meet> ActionParsnip: nope
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> meet: ip addr     in terminal will show the ip address
[13:36] <WeechWeb> meet: they are right, its basic networking, do you also know how to get the ip from your windows pc? ;)
[13:37] <meet> WeechWeb: yes
[13:37] <ztane> MonkeyDust: init-+-firefox---43*[{firefox}]
[13:37] <ztane> MonkeyDust: obviously not reaping
[13:37] <_porque> ponzellus, I need to make it run on anyones computer here...so I need to make it find if that folder is a git and get the remote...I already have this: https://gist.github.com/4538691
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> ztane  you can just ignore zombie processes, they'll go away
[13:38] <_porque> ponzellus, Now I need to get the remote and use xdg-open https://github.com/....
[13:38] <WeechWeb> meet: have you got your computers ip yet? if that command isnt working/spewing out to much data try ipconfig i find its layed out better
[13:38] <ztane> MonkeyDust: i cant
[13:38] <ztane> MonkeyDust: in this case they hold locks for example
[13:38] <meet> i am pretty sure there's no problem with the network. they are on the same network. as i said on my android I can access from both.
[13:38] <_porque> so the users here will enter a the git folder and type, open and it will open the browser in the git.com/blabla/test.git
[13:38] <ztane> or have pids matching pidfiles
[13:39] <WeechWeb> meet: test it to see if they can though
[13:39] <WeechWeb> meet: because it may be smething like ubuntu can ping windows but not the outher way round, or something wierd,
[13:39] <meet> WeechWeb: the ping's all right
[13:40] <meet> i mean both can ping each other
[13:40] <_porque> ponzellus, the problem also is that when I get the remote values I need bash think it is a path so I get No such file or directory
[13:40] <WeechWeb> meet: have you got FTP or anouther way to test
[13:41] <meet> WeechWeb: no.
[13:41] <ztane> obviously init must be stuck at something, but what??
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> meet: what is the name of the remote windows pc and what is the share name you made?
[13:41] <meet> my ubuntu pc is not visible in my network places on winxp.
[13:42] <meet> ActionParsnip: share name is folder name?
[13:42] <ponzellus> _porque: ah ok, didn't see that in your first question :D not a bash scripting expert, sorry :)
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> meet: its the name you gave the share when you shared it
[13:42] <_porque> ponzellus, np ;)
[13:42] <meet> ActionParsnip: i am trying to share the videos folder in my home directory on ubuntu.
[13:43] <meet> same name
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> meet: so is the share called 'videos'?
[13:43] <meet> ActionParsnip: yup
[13:43] <WeechWeb> meet: if its not streaming cant you try FTP? or is it streaming
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> meet: and what is the XP hostname?
[13:43] <WeechWeb> meet: try making a new folder for it,
[13:44] <meet> ActionParsnip: as-desktop
[13:44] <meet> WeechWeb: but the folder's visible to other devices on the network.
[13:44] <atlantide> hi i have a problème with gdm3: gdm does not start the login window
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> meet: ok press ALT+F2 and run:  \\as-desktop\videos     does it show up ok?
[13:45] <WeechWeb> meet: or open terminal
[13:46] <meet> ActionParsnip: i am sharing a folder from ubuntu. so should that command be \\myubuntu\videos?
[13:47] <ztane> why would upstart not reap its children
[13:47] <meet> WeechWeb: ok
[13:47] <dwatkins> ActionParsnip: which theme/style are you using in fluxbox, pls? your orangey screenshot looked rather nifty
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: cant remember the name, let me check
[13:48]  * dwatkins discovered FluxStyle which is a handy manager for styles in fluxbox, of course
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: http://thrynk.deviantart.com/art/Zakeba-for-fluxbox-44537698
[13:49] <dwatkins> thanks ActionParsnip :)
[13:49] <_porque> Please someone help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/243464/bash-function-to-open-git-repository-with-browser
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: if memory serves
[13:49] <_porque> =)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dwatkins: then a woody background
[13:49] <ztane> i cannot restart firefox using the profile i need unless the zombies go away
[13:50] <meet> ActionParsnip: on the workgroup i am able to see only my ubuntu pc and not winxp machine.. what do i try next?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> meet: what workgroup is the XP system in and which is the Ubuntu system in ?
[13:50] <meet> ActionParsnip: they are the same name
[13:52] <ioria> meet: sorry, but i think that you should have a windows network  icon and inside it mshome and workgroup's icons
[13:53] <ioria> meet: or it is in my system
[13:55] <meet> ioria: i have a windows network icon but the winxp machine is not being gshown
[13:55] <ioria> meet: do you have a mshome icon ?
[13:56] <meet> ioria: no
[13:57] <ioria> meet: try smbclient -L xp ip
[13:59] <meet> ioria: thanks. but i think the problems on the winxp machine. i will check there. thanks ActionParsnip  WeechWeb and others. sorry for the trouble :)
[13:59] <ioria> meet: do you see a little hand under the shared folder in xp ?
[13:59] <juan__> hi
[14:01] <meet> yes
[14:02] <ioria> meet: right click - properties
[14:02] <meet> ioria: i think the winxp sharing is not setup properly. will check for it again.
[14:02] <ioria> meet: right click - properties -share
[14:03] <meet> ioria: did that already.
[14:03] <ioria> meet: it's checked ?
[14:03] <meet> ioria: setup the network on winxp again and ya it's working.
[14:04] <meet> ioria: thanks :)
[14:04] <ioria> meet: it's working ?
[14:04] <meet> ioria: yup
[14:05] <ioria> meet: well... very good congratulation
[14:05] <Eagleman> Is there a script which runs fetchmail at an succesfull imap login?
[14:05] <meet> ioria: :)
[14:05] <WeechWeb> meet: glad to see its all working
[14:07] <meet> WeechWeb: ya. btw sorry for the silly trouble :)
[14:07] <anathema_> hi guys, I have a lot of experience in the ubuntu setup dual boot in win7 but not in win8 (with bootloader, uefi etc). Is there any guide for installing dual boot ubuntu/windows 8 in a laptop?
[14:08] <WeechWeb> meet: dont worry, once you get the hang of it its good, acleast u learnet
[14:08] <blez> anathema_ I need the same thing.
[14:08] <challengerX> anathema : first install windows then ubuntu
[14:08] <blez> challengerX the UEFI loader don't detect ubuntu
[14:08] <anathema_> challengerX, there are already installed (New asus laptop)
[14:09] <anathema_> yea as blez said there is uefi and windows 8 bootloader
[14:09] <meet> btw i observed i am getting slow speeds while updating and downloading.. my whole bandwidth is being never utilized. what can i do to increase the speeds?
[14:09] <anathema_> it needs a "hack"
[14:09] <meet> WeechWeb: ^^
[14:10] <_porque> using bash, how can I echo a path without the "No such file or directory" ?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> anathema_  http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[14:10] <jrib> _porque: give an example
[14:11] <anathema_> MonkeyDust, this is an excellent tut but not for the UEFI enabled and WINDOWS 8 bootloader
[14:11] <_porque> jrib, this is returning a path: remote_url=$($remotes | cut -d" " -f1), I need to concatenate it with a string
[14:11] <_porque> jrib, but the remote_url is a path
[14:12] <jrib> _porque: and?
[14:12] <_porque> jrib, I can't concatenate a path with a string I get the "No such file or directory"
[14:12] <jrib> _porque: show what you are doing
[14:13] <_porque> jrib, https://gist.github.com/4538691
[14:14] <_porque> jrib, in this example I don't concatenate yet but I'll simply do url="$url$remote_url" and echo it
[14:15] <jrib> _porque: that's fine, you can do that
[14:15] <_porque> jrib, now it is the way I need it: https://gist.github.com/4538691
[14:16] <jrib> _porque: and what's the problem?
[14:16] <_porque> jrib, when I run it, I get this: bash: planobe/walk-manager-3.git: No such file or directory https://github.com/
[14:16] <Eagleman> Is there a script which runs fetchmail at an succesfull imap login?
[14:16] <_porque> jrib, I can't concatenate the path inside remote_url with the string inside url
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:17] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings!
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hi cfhowlett
[14:18] <jrib> _porque: put something like "echo var is $var" after every line where you set a variable, then show the output.  So for example: echo remotes is "$remotes"
[14:19] <_porque> jrib, ok
[14:20] <_porque> jrib, doing this with the remote_url I get this: bash: planobe/walk-manager-3.git: No such file or directory
[14:20] <_porque> remote_url is
[14:21] <jrib> _porque: oh right, now I see it.  Your remote_url line is weird...
[14:22] <jrib> _porque: you can put "echo" before "$remotes" if you want
[14:23] <_porque> jrib, same thing
[14:23] <jrib> _porque: show the new version
[14:23] <_porque> jrib, http://askubuntu.com/questions/243464/bash-function-to-open-git-repository-with-browser
[14:24] <jrib> _porque: this is different and I still don't see echo...
[14:24] <_porque> jrib, yeah...I need to concatenate these two string to make it open in a browser
[14:25] <jrib> _porque: you're trying to execute $remotes...
[14:25] <_porque> jrib, maybe, I'm new to bash, what I need is to get its value
[14:25] <_porque> jrib, not execute it
[14:26] <jrib> _porque: in your terminal you would do: « echo foo bar | cut -d" " -f1 », but you instead are doing: « foo bar | cut -d" " -f1 ».  do you understand?
[14:26] <_porque> jrib, yes, I get it...
[14:26] <_porque> jrib, is there a way to "save" the return from this execution?
[14:27] <Eagleman> output it to a file ?
[14:27] <jrib> _porque: what you had before in your gist post was fine, just put "echo" before "$remotes"
[14:28] <_porque> jrib, but it will print the value in the terminal, I need it to concatenate with another string: I need something like this: https://github.com/bla/my_project.git, where my_project.git will be dynamic, depending on the folder you are
[14:28] <Eagleman> Can i safelly delete  postfix-script and post-install in /etc/postfix/ ?
[14:29] <_porque> jrib, this: $remotes | cut -d" " -f1 is getting the value from "git remove -v" origin
[14:29] <jrib> _porque: I don't know why you keep posting new links.  If you just stick with your original gist post and make the change I said, I believe it will do what you are looking for
[14:29] <_porque> jrib, ok..gonna try that =)
[14:30] <meet> how to get wget on ubuntu?
[14:30] <WeechWeb> meet: its pre installed :)
[14:30] <fidel_> meet: install it via apt or similar
[14:30] <fidel_> if it isnt there already
[14:30] <WeechWeb> meet: if it is not: sudo apt-get install wget
[14:30] <_porque> jrib, doing so I have the string printed in my terminal, I don't need it printed
[14:30] <jrib> _porque: show what you are doing...
[14:31] <meet> WeechWeb: ya it's there :) nice
[14:31] <d4yn> :q
[14:31] <WeechWeb> meet: No probs, do u wanna wget from HTTP or FTP, need any help? i used it a min ago to mirror my FTP server for backup reasion :D
[14:33] <meet> WeechWeb: for http. downloading a big file so i thought it might be better. :D btw where will it store the file? i did not specify output dir.
[14:33] <_porque> jrib, https://gist.github.com/4538691
[14:33] <WeechWeb> meet: tip, make a screen
[14:33] <WeechWeb> meet: then u can leave it, open it on SSH ect..
[14:33] <WeechWeb> meet: sudo apt-get install screen
[14:34] <jrib> _porque: no, in line 8, put "echo " before "$remotes"
[14:34] <WeechWeb> meet: if u dont specify output DIR, it will be in the DIR you are in
[14:34] <WeechWeb> meet: (by default your home folder :D )
[14:34] <meet> WeechWeb: the home directory by default?
[14:34] <meet> ok :)
[14:35] <_porque> jrib, THANK YOU!!
[14:35] <_porque> jrib, thanks a lot for your patience =)
[14:35] <meet> actually computing with linux is fun :) feels faster and easier in fact.. do I have to learn a lot but :)
[14:35] <WeechWeb> meet: whatever direcoty u are in
[14:35] <TheGrey> o/ I've setup a RAID 1 on my install..It seems I cannot detect any more hard drives if I plug them in...help please!
[14:35] <meet> WeechWeb: what is that screen for?
[14:35] <bean> TheGrey: the drives are likely disabled in your BIOS
[14:36] <WeechWeb> meet: so u can leave the screen and the process will still run, u dont need it, prob not good for starters :)
[14:36] <meet> WeechWeb: i saw the help it showed something -h option. not like that?
[14:36] <dcope> why would ubuntu think my tv is 72" when it's not over hdmi?
[14:37] <newlinux> Hi All
[14:37] <meet> WeechWeb: my bad
[14:37] <TheGrey> bean: but I didn't do a firmwire RAID setup though
[14:37] <newlinux> can I have zimbra mail with apache web server in the same ubuntu server?
[14:38] <WeechWeb> meet: dont worry, remember, choose the closet mirror if its Linux, i keep copys of linux so i dont need to download it from the internet evreytime :D
[14:38] <bean> TheGray: that doesn't mean the drives aren't disabled in bios
[14:38] <vitimiti> (^_^)/
[14:39] <xomrk> guys i have an  $temp ( np linux is a great system ) how to ad " before and after to variable temp ? i want have echo $temp = "linux is a great system "
[14:39] <xomrk> ?
[14:39] <ponzellus> meet: try this link, should be enough to read until sec. 3.3 :) http://nathan.chantrell.net/linux/an-introduction-to-screen/
[14:39] <bean> xomrk: you don't really understand how that works
[14:39] <bean> xomrk: temp="linux is a great system"
[14:40] <bean> xomrk: echo $temp
[14:41] <ponzellus> xomrk: escape your ": temp="\".....\""
[14:41] <anykey> can someone tell me what the meaning of the files in /var/crash is? I mean what is the difference between .crash, .upload, .uploaded files?
[14:42] <xomrk> my problem is that i have in var something like that  $temp= Del Rey - Blue Jeans.mp3 and i want to have an " on begin and end
[14:42] <xomrk> can i plese an example
[14:42] <bean> xomrk: you'll likely need to provide more code for any help
[14:42] <xomrk> ok
[14:42] <bean> xomrk: you could pastebin or gist your code
[14:42] <bean> I'll be back in a little bit -- gotta run to work
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> xomrk  try the channel #bash
[14:44] <blami> I wouldn't recommend him to do so :P
[14:45] <meet> ponzellus: thanks for the link. got some idea about screen. :)
[14:45] <xomrk> ok here it is
[14:45] <xomrk> http://pastebin.com/bjG6mPvX
[14:46] <ponzellus> meet: np ;) try using it, it's really powerful, specially if you run stuff on different machines or want to check your programs remotely :)
[14:46] <meet>  how to install a downloaded .deb from command line
[14:46] <ponzellus> meet: sudo dpkg -i
[14:46] <meet> thanks :)
[14:46] <meet> wow this irc thing is really fast for help :) :D
[14:47] <meet> ponzellus: like sudo dpkg -i package.deb right?
[14:47] <TomyLobo> i installed libhiredis-dev and am including it with "#include <hiredis/adapters/libevent.h>". I get /usr/include/hiredis/adapters/libevent.h:1:19: fatal error: event.h: No such file or directory
[14:47] <finklepants> Anyone know how to fix the wireless connectivity issues with ar9485/ ath9kverson3.2.0-35
[14:47] <ponzellus> meet: right
[14:48] <meet> ponzellus: does the terminal feel fast or does it really work fast
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> http://thrynk.deviantart.com/art/Zakeba-for-fluxbox-44537698
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> 14:46 < meet> thanks :)
[14:48] <ponzellus> meet: uhm, what do you mean? ;)
[14:49] <xomrk> if $linia="linux is great"   how to have on output "linux is great" not Linux is great?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> meet: yeah its pretty swet
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> xomrk  better try the channel #bash
[14:50] <meet> i mean the package installion was done way too quick then it is being done for other packages i just downloaded. i was using the normal double click or the software center. but when i tried through the terminal it felt quicker :D
[14:50] <anykey> nevermind found it. So, apparently, if there is no *.uploaded file, a crash report didnt get uploaded.
[14:50] <finklepants> Anyone know how to fix the wireless connectivity issues with atheros ar9485/ath9k version 3.2.0-35
[14:50] <ponzellus> meet: ah ok, yes, often times you get your work done faster using the terminal
[14:51] <meet> ponzellus: but how do you remember all those commands?
[14:51] <ponzellus> meet: by using them :) at the beginning it's hard probably, but after some time you just know them. and if not, there's google =) or irc
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> or duckduckgo
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> xomrk: echo $linia | tr 'l' 'L'
[14:52] <ponzellus> right, even better
[14:52] <meet> :)
[14:52] <nerdshank> Anyone
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> xomrk: replaces all instances of l with L
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> nerdshank  anyone what?
[14:53] <xomrk> still not have " before and
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> meet: as you use the terminal, you remember commands. I'm sure what you can probably do in Windows would impress a new user too
[14:54] <nerdshank> Need help with wireless connectivity of atheros AR9485/ ath9k driver
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> xomrk: echo $linia | tr '"' ' '
[14:55] <OerHeks> nerdshank, if you asked a question, it is not wise to change your name
[14:55] <Absolute0> Which file does ubuntu source on login when the default desktop manager startsup?
[14:55] <_porque> jrib, are you there?
[14:55] <Absolute0> is it .xprofile?
[14:55] <nerdshank> No one responded
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> nerdshank  then wait a bit longer, until someone enters who can help you
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> xomrk: or do you mean:   echo \"$linia\"
[14:56] <xomrk> yes
[14:56] <Zapp> nerdshank, What is the problem you are having with the driver?
[14:56] <xomrk> ty very much
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> xomrk: got there in the end :)
[14:57] <xomrk> yes yes now i have an the end and beginning
[14:57] <xomrk> ty
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> xomrk: the "s need escaping so they are seen as characters to output
[14:58] <nerdshank> Zapp: terrible speed signal drops hangups
[14:58] <xomrk> ok
[14:58] <orudie> which irc client does everyone use with ubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> orudie: irssi and pidgin
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> orudie  xchat is also popular
[14:59] <orudie> isn't xchat a paid software ?
[14:59] <smashTheGrandpas> no
[14:59] <smashTheGrandpas> not paid
[15:00] <nerdshank> Need help with wireless connectivity of atheros AR9485/ ath9k driver
[15:00] <ponzellus> orudie: i think for windows they have some kind of fee
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: what is the issue?
[15:00] <ponzellus> for linux it's opensource
[15:01] <smashTheGrandpas> hang ups terrible signal sitting on top of router
[15:01] <smashTheGrandpas> drops
[15:01] <Zapp> nerdshank, OK, MIght want to ask for help with that instead of just driver trouble. Just a suggestion! :)
[15:02] <nerdshank> Help with what?
[15:02] <meet> how can i search for my music file on an ntfs partition from the overview?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> meet: do you mean the dash when you say 'the overview'
[15:02] <nerdshank> You dont think its a driver issue?
[15:02] <Zapp> nerdshank,   "terrible speed signal drops hangups"
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> nerdshank  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what went wrong before you came here - in one line
[15:03] <meet> ActionParsnip: i am using the gome3 so whatever it's called :)
[15:03] <meet> gnome 3*
[15:03] <orudie> is xchat still managed / maintained ?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> meet: all i can suggest is symlink the folder in ntfs to the music folder and it will be seen.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> orudie: very much so
[15:04] <nerdshank> i did alot compat-network thingy, reloaded drivers, removed encryption
[15:05] <nerdshank> i found alot of people with this issue with tthis card.. idk if this is an unsolved bug issue or not
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: you haven't stated the issue yet
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> nerdshank  what are you trying to accomplish?
[15:06] <nerdshank> to get my full connectivity back... card is only opeteation at 60% signal sitting next to router, major signal drops
[15:07] <nerdshank> and then it bugs out a freezes
[15:07] <nerdshank> whole pc
[15:08] <nerdshank> im running 12.04 btw
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: try:    echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[15:10] <nerdshank> seems to of made it worse lol
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: did you reboot to test?
[15:11] <nerdshank> reboot or restart networking?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: how could it have made things worse when the option hasn't even been applied yet?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: reboot the PC is easier
[15:13] <nerdshank> dont ask my signal is fluxing pretty wildly
[15:13] <nerdshank> kk rebooting
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: are there lots of wifis on the same channel?
[15:13] <spaceneedle> I'm wondering if I should change swappiness on my 2gb memory dual core laptop. Does it really  make a difference?
[15:14] <nerdshank> no, this is ubuntu 12.04 thing im pretty sure worked alot better in 11, make kernal issues idk, and works just fine in windows
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> spaceneedle: I set mine to about 3 but all I do is chat and browse
[15:15] <nerdshank> im pissed cuz i use linux alot and just ordered new pc come to see it has this card too
[15:17] <spaceneedle> Has anybody tried JFS --instead of EXT4--for Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:18] <nerdshank> so far so good
[15:18] <nerdshank> nope still fluxing
[15:18] <nerdshank> really annyong
[15:19] <nerdshank> ActionParsnip,: think this maybe an unresolved bug issue
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: are there many networks on the same channel?
[15:20] <nerdshank> hmm good question
[15:20] <nerdshank> i think maybe only 2-3
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: sudo iwlist scan | egrep -i 'ssid|channel'
[15:21] <nerdshank> AceFace,  2
[15:21] <nerdshank> ActionParsnip,: 2
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: thats ok
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: how close is the router to the antennae
[15:25] <nerdshank> atm 2 feet, no more than 10 LOS/ internal antenna
[15:26] <dcope> anyone know why my TV (HDMI) would have ubuntu thinking it is 30 inches bigger?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: did you try disabling ipv6 using the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[15:27] <nerdshank> have not
[15:27] <BluesKaj> dcope, which graphics card and driver ?
[15:27] <dcope> BluesKaj: i'm just using onboard with an ASRock Z77 Extreme 4
[15:27] <nerdshank> put into grub?
[15:27] <dcope> i googled around and found people with similar problems but no solution
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: yes, next to:   quiet splash
[15:30] <phunyguy> So I am having an issue with this little mini PC from Lenovo.  Seems to have a pretty standard set of hardware, intel chipset, intel gigabit, etc, but for whatever reason on the install of Ubuntu, networkmanager won't see the adapter and connect to the wire.
[15:30] <nerdshank> ActionParsnip, so it will look like "quite splash nomodset" "ipv6.disable=1"    - i need the nomodset in there too
[15:31] <nerdshank> or same quotes
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> nerdshank: put the boot option in the same quotes
[15:32] <zex> Hi all.
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> hi zex
[15:33] <zex> I am tryign to map from Ububtu a perminate share to my Freenas share. in order tu use PLex to view my media
[15:33] <meet> ActionParsnip: how do i share folders on the ntfs partitions?
[15:33] <nerdshank> ActionParsnip, kk rebooting fingers X
[15:33] <zex> please can some one help me as I have spend all day workign on this and not much luck
[15:34] <phunyguy> back, sorry
[15:35] <zex> anyone please?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> zex: can nautilus mount it?
[15:36] <zex> @Action let me PM you
[15:37] <bean__> zex: typically its bad form to pm people here.
[15:37] <zex> Sorry I have not used nautilus before
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> zex: its the default file browser in ubuntu
[15:38] <zex> the network share is //freenas.local/share
[15:38] <Guest63268> ActionParsnip, did solve the signal issue but speed and responsiveness are alot better
[15:38] <Guest63268> didnt*
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest63268: dang
[15:38] <Guest63268> alot better than it was tho
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> zex: what does it use to share?
[15:38] <zex> yes in nautilus is does mount
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest63268: that's colol
[15:39] <zex> but how do I point Plex to that share?
[15:39] <zex> as in /mnt there is nothing
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> zex: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:40] <zex> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[15:40] <iceroot> how to find all installed packages from a specific repo/ppa? something like "dpkg -l" and look on that list for every package from the repo "foobar"
[15:40] <Guest63268> thanks for the hand ActionParsnip
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> zex: look in /run/user/gvfs   if memory serves
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest63268: I try
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> zex: change user for your username
[15:40] <defer_> Can i share my HDD to LAN is there any guide for that?
[15:40] <caiotarifa> http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2976/ubootvsftpd.jpg
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> defer_: you can share the partition, not the drive
[15:41] <defer_> How can i do that? With samba maybe?
[15:41] <zex> sorry on call quickly. brb
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> defer_: yes, you'd share the mount point with samba, if it is ntfs then you wil probably get isues
[15:43] <subdesign> love ubuntu. installing on a new machine, doesnt recognize LAN, but found wifi, and now installs smoothly :)
[15:45] <defer_> I got new SSD so i will convert my netbook to network hard drive :) Because the ssd is only 64GB
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> defer_: thats plenty, ubuntu only needs about 6Gb
[15:47] <defer_> Yes but i need network drive for videos
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> defer_: totally, file servers make low storage drives a possibility :)
[15:51] <Psi-Jack> !op YoltA PM Spammer
[15:51] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm..
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: try:  !ops | YolarP spammer
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> etc
[15:52] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Ahhh, thank you. :)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: or just put the nick on ignore
[15:53] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Likely en-mass, based on the content of the PM.
[15:53] <krz> fuckn hell. is there anything similar to unetbootin for mac?
[15:53] <krz> that program can't do shit
[15:54] <krz> am trying to create a bootable usb
[15:54] <Psi-Jack> krz: #MacOSX
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> krz  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Kyngdom: you can use dd to put the ISO on a USB stick in Oneiric and later
[15:54] <krz> Psi-Jack: its ubuntu related Psi-Jack
[15:54] <krz> MonkeyDust: yea i know. thats where i got it from. duh
[15:54] <Psi-Jack> krz: Mac OS X software is not related to Ubuntu, or Linux.
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> krz  mind your language
[15:54] <alvesjnr> hi all. I'm using vinagre to connect to a windows  VM (RDP protocol). My VM has freezed, how can I send a ctr+alt+del signal using remote desktop?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> krz: use dd in a terminal and it will boot
[15:55] <ezioa> i have a centrino advanced-n 6205 wireless card.  works great in windows.  in linux it has intermittent connectivity at best
[15:55] <ezioa> anyone know what i can do?
[15:55] <desaila__> how do you grep for ONLY a newline character? ive been trying grep "\n", grep "\r", egrep ..
[15:55] <krz> ActionParsnip: dd when? where?
[15:56] <Bare7a_PC> Can anyone please tell me how to make wine and pulseaudio compatible because I dont have sound while playing games
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Bare7a_PC  try #winehq
[15:56] <Bare7a_PC> Ok thanks
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> krz: whenever you like
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> krz: its a terminal command
[15:57] <krz> ActionParsnip: i can't get the thing to boot anywhere
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> krz: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:59] <anathema_> hi guys, i have a new laptop with win8 installed. whats are the steps in order to boot and install dual boot with 12.10? I must disable uefi?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: you will need to resize your NTFS to make space for ubuntu
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> anathema_  did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[16:01] <ubuntu-studio_> I am re-installing ubuntu studio and had an interruption in wireless.  My install has been hung up at "running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common"  How do I get it back on task?
[16:01] <subdesign> how to find the mac address of my built in wifi adapter?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> subdesign: ip addr
[16:02] <krz> ActionParsnip: they don't match........
[16:02] <krz> but it completed 100%
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> krz: that's why you are getting issues then, the data is corrupted
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> krz: doesn't matter, data can get damaged in transit
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> krz: thats why MD5 testing is importnat
[16:03] <subdesign> thx
[16:03] <Vika> Hello, anyone with an ATI HD7670m ?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Vika: ask your real question and see :)(
[16:04] <anathema_> MonkeyDust, yes. I dont know if my asus laptop has EFI Mode. How to check?
[16:04] <angs> I cannot copy file to my usb flash disk, I can only copy file as a root. how can I decrease file writing privilege of the device?
[16:04] <krz> ActionParsnip: well i did it again seems to boot now
[16:04] <anathema_> I fear if I do somethign wrong and to lost win8 partition + recovery partition
[16:04] <krz> ActionParsnip: the md5 don't match though. so should i redownload?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> krz: i suggest you redownload the ISO using torrents if possible. The torrent protocol adds extra data checking
[16:05] <phunyguy> I figured out my adapter issue I think.... I reset the BIOS.  May need a bios update if it does it ahain.
[16:05] <phunyguy> again*
[16:06] <Vika> ActionParsnip, well, im looking at the specs that Catalyst CC give me, and it shows DD3, im preety sure that my GPU is DDR5
[16:06] <krz> ActionParsnip: ill go with that
[16:06] <krz> thnx matey
[16:07] <krz> y'all prefer mint or ubuntu?
[16:07] <krz> :-)
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> krz: ubuntu, the support community is huge
[16:08] <pijush> hello once again guys :)
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> anathema_  not sure myself
[16:09] <krz> where can i check the md5 for ubuntu?
[16:10] <DJones> !md5 | krz
[16:10] <NuSuey> how can I for sure know that my swap partition is active?
[16:12] <NuSuey> just with free -m?
[16:12] <ezio> having intermittent connectivity issues to my university's wireless only.  low signal strength and i keep getting disconnected.  often if i sleep my session and wake it up it comes back online.  windows has great signal strength.  any ideas?
[16:12] <GuidoPallemans> I'm making a Reddit reader app for the phone! Anyone care to join me? (QML) https://github.com/brambram/UbuntuPhoneRedditApp
[16:13] <krz> when i download the iso file with my mac the file name is different. something with i386. and when i download it with my windows machine. it has amd. if i download from  my mac and use unetbootin to create a bootable pen drive so i can install on my windows machine. will that be fine?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> GuidoPallemans  wrong channel
[16:13] <Vika> Hello, anyone with an ATI HD7670m ? Im having some problems with drivers, anyone recomend any other driver beside the ones on ubuntu?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip>  krz as long as it passes md5 test, it is fine
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Vika: are there any bugs reported?
[16:15] <Vika> ActionParsnip, no, but like i said, is not seem the correct driver for the card, everything is a bit slow and the glxgears show low fdp
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Vika: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:18] <Vika> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Vika: what CPU are you using please?
[16:21] <Vika> ActionParsnip, i7
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Vika: which one?
[16:22] <Vika> im on HP laptop btw
[16:22] <zex> Ok I am back
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Vika: run:   cat /proc/cpuinfo    what is the model of the cpu?
[16:23] <Vika> ActionParsnip, model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3612QM CPU @ 2.10GHz
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Vika: you also have an Intel 4000 GPU in the CPU
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Vika: switchable GPUs don't do great in Ubuntu / Linux.
[16:24] <Vika> yes i know
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Vika: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  may help
[16:24] <Vika> but i force the ATI
[16:25] <harushimo> can I get sdl in ubuntu?
[16:25] <harushimo> how would I get that package?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> !find sdl
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: yes
[16:26] <harushimo> what's the actual command? sudo apt-get install sdl?
[16:26] <bluegoon> Hi guys
[16:26] <TheGrey> o/ Can I ask something?......I've been running ubuntu and intermittently I have no connection with my mouse and keyboard...How can I find out a solution or bug report?
[16:26] <bluegoon> I cant type the 'hash' and 'at' symbols
[16:27] <FlowRiser> TheGrey, are they both on usb ?
[16:27] <ezio> TheGrey, you have to sit down and have a long talk with them.  that's the only way to develop a connection with your mouse and keyboard.
[16:27] <NET||abuse> hi folks, was going to try StarTrekOnline and had some issues with it, anyone here play STO? I can't click on Options or Patch on the launcher window
[16:27] <ezio> you should tell them about the dangers of drugs and strangers, too
[16:27] <TheGrey> FlowRiser: yes they're both on usb
[16:28] <FlowRiser> TheGrey, can you find them by running lsusb ?
[16:28] <NET||abuse> I'm using GC_DONT_GC=1  flags on the launcher for wine.
[16:28] <NET||abuse> i've install ie8 and vcrun 2008
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: install the libsdl1.2-dev  package and you'll get it
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> NET||abuse  ask in #winehq
[16:28] <ezio> TheGrey, how are you doing anything without a mouse and keyboard?
[16:28] <NET||abuse> hmm, ok
[16:28] <NET||abuse> didn't know about that channel :)
[16:28] <harushimo> ActionParsnip: thank you
[16:28] <FlowRiser> ezio, good point O.o
[16:28] <NET||abuse> MonkeyDust: thanks for the pointer
[16:28] <TheGrey> FlowrRiser: Yes, they are both Razer USA, Ltd.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: did you check the appdb?
[16:28] <TheGrey> ezio: this is me after a reboot
[16:29] <bluegoon> How do you type the AT sign on a UK keyboard?
[16:29] <arand> harushimo: Normally install the packages libsdl-image1.2 and/or libsdl-mixer1.2 if you just need the libraries, libsdl1.2-dev if you want the development files for compiling as well.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> bluegoon: shift + seconds key on right on the middle row
[16:29] <ezio> TheGrey, huh?  how are you typing anything
[16:29] <ezio> into linux
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> bluegoon: not counting the enter key
[16:30] <FlowRiser> TheGrey, Razer ?  oh, damn... they have all sorts of weird functions; tried searching the developers website for linux drivers ?
[16:30] <harushimo> arand: I need the development one too
[16:30] <TheGrey> ezio: This is a reboot...there is no problem atm. It happens intermittently. I'm looking for a solution
[16:30] <NET||abuse> ActionParsnip: yeh i didn, didn't see my issue, but generally they just said you probably need to try GV_DONT_GV=1 and have vcrun2008 and IE8 through winetricks
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> bluegoon: http://www.goodtyping.com/teclatUKok.png   image searching is your friend
[16:30] <harushimo> arand: pygame requires it
[16:30] <TheGrey> FlowrRiser; cheers will do!
[16:30] <arand> harushimo: Then just the -dev package (as ActionParsnip said)
[16:30] <ezio> TheGrey, ah ... intermittently ... are you sure the os isn't frozen solid?
[16:30] <ezio> TheGrey, when this happens have you tried ctrl+alt+f1
[16:31] <harushimo> arand: I am. I'll install the other two packages what you said
[16:31] <TheGrey> ezio: right cheers
[16:32] <ezio>  try that ... see if you get a terminal
[16:32] <ezio> if you do then you can just reboot your dm by /etc/init.d/ldm restart
[16:33] <ezio> if you have the standard install
[16:33] <arand> harushimo: Hmm, it might be that you want libsdl-image1.2-dev and libsdl-mixer1.2-dev separately as well, yeah (I've no experience with pygame though).
[16:33] <Bouib> hello$
[16:34] <harushimo> arand: that's okay. I'll figure it out but you gave me direction on the problem
[16:34] <harushimo> thank you
[16:34] <miha> on ubuntu 10.04, evolution now complains about gmail imap ssl cert being "bad", while  openssl s_client -CApath /etc/ssl/certs -connect imap.gmail.com:993  works fine
[16:34] <xomrk> how exaclu delete first 6 character from var in bash?
[16:35] <miha> xomrk: #bash ? :)
[16:35] <xomrk> yes
[16:35] <xomrk> if i have example = " /home/xomkr/music/2012/lol.mp3" i want delete ewerything to last /
[16:36] <xomrk> or delete first 10 characters
[16:36] <miha> xomrk: why dont you ask on #bash ? you'll get more help there
[16:36] <littlebearz> xomrk: use regex
[16:36] <bluegoon> my bloody keyboard does "£ instead of AT and Hash
[16:36] <bluegoon> what could be the probleM?
[16:37] <jrib> xomrk: you probably want the "basename" command?
[16:37] <bean__> bluegoon: wrong keyboard type selected
[16:37] <Theodore> hello
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> xomrk: let me play
[16:37] <bluegoon> bean__: I selected US Standard
[16:37] <Theodore> what is the best music player for ubuntu?
[16:37] <xomrk> the var
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> Theodore  audacious is nice
[16:37] <bean__> bluegoon: are you sure? cuz that doesn't sound like US standard, it sounds like UK standard
[16:37] <xomrk> have example
[16:37] <Abhijit> Theodore, vlc and clementine
[16:37] <xomrk> /home/bolo/Muzyka/2012/wrzesien/Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness.mp3
[16:37] <xomrk> and i wanna only same filename
[16:37] <bluegoon> bean__: Ill fool around with some regional settings
[16:38] <jrib> xomrk: you probably want the "basename" command
[16:38] <DJones> bluegoon: You probably want UK standard to get £ and # symbols
[16:38] <ponzellus> xomrk: not nice, but working would be foo=`echo $foo | sed -e 's/.*\///'`
[16:38] <bean__> DJones: he does NOT want pound as @
[16:39] <xomrk> not work
[16:39] <jrib> xomrk: have you tried basename...?
[16:39] <DJones> bean__: Ah sorry, I read that he wanted it the other way round
[16:39] <xomrk> what that is?
[16:39] <jrib> xomrk: a command.
[16:40] <xomrk> i create a script to find and copy songs
[16:40] <jrib> xomrk: well I've told you to use basename around 5 times now.  I don't know what else to say.
[16:40] <genteor> hi fellas!I'm searching for a good alternative for skype!Do you have anything in mind??
[16:40] <bean__> xomrk: use basename
[16:41] <jrib> xomrk: try this as an example in your shell: basename /foo/bar/dog
[16:42] <phunyguy> Doh, So I reinstalled this OS with the network interface issues, and now I have another problem.  I remember doing this before as well but can't remember what I did. I installed Ubuntu 12.10 from scratch but it won't boot. After going back into the LiveUSB, it shows the partitions as an EFI setup... how do I make this work?
[16:43] <arand> genteor: There's mumble or empathy(jabber/jingle).
[16:43] <harushimo> can someone tell me what is freetype-config and smpeg-config do?
[16:43] <littlebearz> harushimo: did u try man freetype-config?
[16:44] <harushimo> yeah
[16:44] <subdesign> how is it possible, during install i had wifi, after that i dont have. ?
[16:44] <harushimo> it didn't work
[16:44] <Rallias> Well... this is new... my laptop just went into hibernate because my mouse battery died.
[16:44] <littlebearz> Rallias: that's just funny
[16:44] <xomrk> ok ty / but how to use it with cat lol.txt | basename not work
[16:44] <Rallias> littlebearz, IKR?
[16:44] <Rallias> How do I disable that happening with my wireless mouse's battery?
[16:45] <littlebearz> Rallias: um. usually it's usb, lsusb i think
[16:45] <jrib> xomrk: what are you actually trying to accomplish?  What is your final goal?  And as someone else mentioned, #bash may be more appropriate if you are looking for general scripting help
[16:45] <Rallias> littlebearz, it's a bluetooth mouse.
[16:45] <zex> Hi guys I need soem help please. How can I get a permanent share up between my Ubuntu and freenas server? I have troed fstab, but that is nto helping me at all. I can connect to the share via Nautilus, but I can't seem to find a way to point Plex to that share. PLease can I get some direction please? I am running 12.10
[16:45] <xomrk> ok ty very much for help , now i can complete alone my script
[16:45] <littlebearz> Rallias: still should list under /dev/xxx i think
[16:46] <Hirak> hello
[16:46] <Hirak> I  have a problem with installing ubuntu from PXE
[16:46] <Hirak> can anybody help?
[16:46] <littlebearz> Hirak: no idea about pxe but i thought it's preinstalled
[16:46] <Hirak> anybody there for help
[16:47] <Hirak> I am new to this chat
[16:47] <bean_work> Hirak: What is your problem
[16:47] <Hirak> not sure whether I am asking the question in the correct forum
[16:47] <Guest1657> does anyone know when did ubuntu start to use grub 2?
[16:47] <Hirak> hi bean_work
[16:47] <genteor> arand: thnx man!
[16:47] <zlatan> hi is this also a support channel for ubuntu raring?
[16:47] <Hirak> I am trying to install Ubuntu from the PXE server
[16:47] <Hirak> I have a problem regarding the kickstart files
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> xomrk:  echo ${example:10:${#example} - 20}
[16:48] <bean_work> Hirak: ok, what is the problem
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> Guest1657  9.10
[16:48] <Hirak> the problem is that ubuntu desktop is not getting displayed
[16:48] <phunyguy> doh, nevermind, I figured it out, it was booting the LiveUSB in UEFI mode by default, so Ubuntu installed it that way, but the HDD boots Legacy.
[16:48] <Hirak> I need a kickstart file to get the ubuntu installed with desktop
[16:48] <igor_> anyone know how to install video drivers with 3d acceleration?
[16:48] <kevingutt> Hello all
[16:49] <zex> Hi guys I need soem help please. How can I get a permanent share up between my Ubuntu and freenas server? I have tried fstab, but that is not helping me at all. I can connect to the share via Nautilus, but I can't seem to find a way to point Plex to that share. PLease can I get some direction please? I am running 12.10
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Hirak: what GPU do you use?
[16:49] <igor_> nvidia
[16:49] <bean_work> Hirak: okay, but what is the actual problem
[16:49] <Hirak> the desktop package is not getting installed
[16:49] <Hirak> I get a blank screen with a blinking cursor
[16:49] <Hirak> no desktop
[16:49] <bean_work> Hirak: that sounds like a problem unrelated to the desktop package not getting installed.
[16:50] <Guest1657> is there any channel related to grub?
[16:50] <kevingutt> Hey guys, on 12.10 my battery is completely wrong.
[16:50] <Hirak> yes I am not saying something is wrong with the package
[16:50] <kevingutt> the battery charges, but the indicator isn't right.
[16:50] <Hirak> but I need help with creating the proper kickstart file
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Hirak: what GPU do you use?
[16:50] <arand> Guest1657: There's #grub, but if the problem is ubuntu-related, that's good for this channel as well.
[16:51] <Hirak> what is GPU?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Hirak: the video chip
[16:51] <Hirak> ok
[16:51] <zex> Hi guys I need soem help please. How can I get a permanent share up between my Ubuntu and freenas server? I have tried fstab, but that is not helping me at all. I can connect to the share via Nautilus, but I can't seem to find a way to point Plex to that share. PLease can I get some direction please? I am running 12.10
[16:51] <Hirak> this is a basic onboard intel
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Hirak: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[16:52] <Hirak> what is the complete line which I need to add to the kickstart filen
[16:52] <Hirak> ?
[16:52] <Hirak> or if you have a kickstart file
[16:52] <Hirak> can you please share
[16:52] <bean_work> Hirak: can you share *your* kickstart file?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Hirak
[16:53] <Hirak> ok
[16:53] <Hirak> let me share the kickstart file here
[16:53] <Hirak> and let me know if I need some changes
[16:53] <bean_work> Hirak: please paste bin i
[16:53] <bean_work> t
[16:53] <Hirak> just hold on for a sec
[16:53] <bean_work> I know, just telling you to not paste it here, Hirak
[16:55] <Hirak> just hold on
[16:56] <Joschii> bbl
[16:56] <Hirak> #System language   lang en_US   #Language modules to install   langsupport en_US   #System keyboard   keyboard us   #System mouse   mouse   #System timezone   timezone America/New_York   #Root password   rootpw --disabled   #Initial user   user ubuntu --fullname "Ubuntu" --iscrypted --password $1$SCOXweI4$drrBtag3Am7IBIKztnx.00   #Reboot after installation   reboot   #Use text mode install   text   #Install OS instead of upgrade   ins
[16:56] <Hirak> I canot paste it here
[16:56] <Hirak> can you please let me know of any alternate place
[16:56] <Hirak> ?
[16:56] <Pici> !pastebin | Hirak
[16:57] <zlatan> hi, I am just installed Ubuntu raring and get in right bottom corner AMD Unsupported hardware...how to get rid of it
[16:57] <Hirak> Pasted it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534751/
[16:58] <Hirak> please check and let me know what is the mistake I am doing here
[16:58] <discutibile> hi
[16:58] <Hirak> I am facing this issue in both ubuntu 11 and 12
[16:58] <Abhijit> zlatan, may be just remove that unsupported hardware?
[16:58] <Hirak> bean_work
[16:58] <Hirak> are u there?
[16:59] <bean_work> yes
[16:59] <bean_work> one moment please.
[16:59] <Hirak> ok
[16:59] <Hirak> thanks
[16:59] <zlatan> Abhijit, remove hardware - are you kidding, its my graphical card on laptop :p
[16:59] <rikimaru90> Hey guys, does anyone here use spotify for Linux here?
[17:00] <bean_work> oh, Hirak, i've never done that with actual kickstart scripts -- just debian-installer
[17:00] <Hirak> ohhh
[17:00] <Hirak> thats sad
[17:00] <Hirak> but any idea
[17:00] <bean_work> no idea
[17:00] <Hirak> ok
[17:00] <Hirak> can you please guide to a good forum
[17:00] <Hirak> ?
[17:01] <Abhijit> zlatan, then may be install the drivers?
[17:01] <bean_work> Hirak: can't say that I can... like I said, i've never done kickstart
[17:01] <igor_> anyone know how to install video drivers with 3d acceleration?
[17:01] <Hirak> ok
[17:02] <zex> Hi guys I need soem help please. How can I get a permanent share up between my Ubuntu and freenas server? I have tried fstab, but that is not helping me at all. I can connect to the share via Nautilus, but I can't seem to find a way to point Plex to that share. PLease can I get some direction please? I am running 12.10
[17:02] <littlebearz> igor_: find the make of you're video driver, goto software manager and download it
[17:02] <zlatan> Abhijit, I installed already flgrx and it didn't help, and after that fglrx-updates and it still is there... the system is working okay, I just want to get rid of that annoying windows
[17:02] <Abhijit> igor_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcceleratedX
[17:02] <Abhijit> zlatan, hmm. no idea.
[17:02] <littlebearz> zex: use UNC pathways ie \\servername\folder
[17:02] <rikimaru90> Is there a way to remove Linux Mint and come back to Ubuntu 12.04, without losing all my stuff again?
[17:03] <littlebearz> rikimaru90: copy you're /home
[17:03] <Abhijit> rikimaru90, you just need to delete and/or format mint partition from ubuntu
[17:03] <zex> Sorry I am not following
[17:03] <Abhijit> rikimaru90, if you have important data inside mint partition you need to back it up first.
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> rikimaru90: use your backups to restore data
[17:04] <rikimaru90> Okay what steps do I need to take after backing up my home folder? How will I safely remove Mint and replace it with Ubuntu?
[17:04] <Abhijit> rikimaru90, you just need to delete and/or format mint partition from ubuntu
[17:05] <Abhijit> after taking the backup that is.
[17:05] <rikimaru90> Oh I see, so do it from the live USB in Gparted?
[17:05] <Abhijit> no
[17:05] <Abhijit> from the currently installed working running ubuntu
[17:06] <Abhijit> live media is not necessary. its optional.
[17:06] <rikimaru90> Abhijit: Oh no  I no longer have ubuntu installed, I replaced it for Mint. But I'm not happy with it.
[17:06] <Abhijit> :-s
[17:07] <zex> is there a support engineer I can chat ti in PM?
[17:07] <Abhijit> rikimaru90, you said you want to delete mint and come back to ubuntu
[17:07] <rikimaru90> Abhijit: Yeah, by that I mean reinstall ubuntu, sorry for not being clear.
[17:07] <Abhijit> rikimaru90, if you want to replace mint with ubuntu then first take backup and then follow regular ubuntu installation instructions and just delete mint partitions while installing ubuntu
[17:08] <kode_> when i try to run cheese in ubuntu 12.04 i get:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534776/
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> zex: find out how the NAS mounts the share, you can then add that to fstab, or mount using nautilus then cat /etc/mtab
[17:08] <kode_> antone knows whats going on there
[17:08] <Abhijit> zex, if you have bought the support from canonical then this is not the place to get that support. this is community support channel. if you have not bought any support just ask your questions here, be patient or ask with details on askubuntu.com for better support
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> kode_: are you accessing it over SSH?
[17:09] <zex> ok I cll ask again Hi guys I need soem help please. How can I get a permanent share up between my Ubuntu and freenas server? I have tried fstab, but that is not helping me at all. I can connect to the share via Nautilus, but I can't seem to find a way to point Plex to that share. PLease can I get some direction please? I am running 12.10
[17:09] <kode_> ActionParsnip: no
[17:09] <zex> off to the shop will come back
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> kode_: tried guvcview?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> zex: find out how the NAS mounts the share, you can then add that to fstab, or mount using nautilus then cat /etc/mtab
[17:11] <kode_> ActionParsnip: actually when i was using cheese with ubuntu 10.10 it was working fine and then i upgraded to 12.04 and after that this is happening.. i havent tried guvcview
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> kode_: did you upgrade to the releases in between?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> kode_: or direct from maverick to precise
[17:12] <kode_> direct from maverick to precise
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> kode_: thats why
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> kode_: you have leapfrogged releases which is not supported as you have not gone from LTS to LTS
[17:13] <kode_> ActionParsnip: is there no way to get it to work in precise??
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> kode_: reinstall precise
[17:13] <kode_> ActionParsnip:  without reinstalling??
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> kode_: you havent followed correct upgrading procedure. I anticipate you will have issues
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | noob
[17:16] <kode_> ActionParsnip: ok.. thanks..
[17:16] <Guest97701> ok so i fresh minimal install of ubuntu12.10 now i have no unity no gnome install i want to install mate desktop?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest97701: you will need the mate ppa. If you get issues with mate itself, then you will not be supported here
[17:18] <Guest97701> ActionParsnip: all i need to know tht its not important to install unity or gnome to get mate desktop?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest97701: you don't need to have unity installed to use mate
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest97701: you will use gnome
[17:21] <Guest97701> ActionParsnip: i want to only install mate desktop not gnome and unity so kinda confused  hope only install mate desktop not create any problem
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest97701: mate is a fork of gnome, so it will use gnome stuff from the official repos mixed with the stuff from the ppa
[17:22] <Guest97701> ActionParsnip: so it means i have to install gnome first to use mate?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest97701: no, just add the ppa then install mate, it will install what is needed
[17:23] <Kion1> How do I uninstall Ubuntu from a dual boot computer?
[17:23] <Guest97701> ActionParsnip: ok thanx a lot
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: how did you install Ubuntu
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest97701: no worries
[17:24] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: No, Uninstall from a dual boot working system
[17:24] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: It is for a friend, that will update his computer and will give the old to somebody
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: yes, how did you install ubuntu? there are 2 ways to install it, so there are 2 removal methods...
[17:25] <dangersalad> anybody here started playing with the ubuntu phone sdk
[17:25] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: sorry, did not read correctly, my bad, I am not shure, I guess he had windows preinstalled and booted with a cd...
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: ok, so in Ubuntu if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see Linux partitions and NTFS partitions?
[17:26] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: yes, he has a windows partition and a linux partition
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: then boot to windows and delete the Linux partitions. You will need to use a Windows CD to reinstate the boot loader
[17:27] <dangersalad> I am trying to get the XmlListModel from the demo working and it is not pulling data
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: you can then make a partition of the freed space for user data storage etc
[17:28] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: Yes my first thought was to format the linux partition and use it from windows, my only obscure area is how to fix the boot loader
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: you'll need the windows CD, or supergrub (may work)
[17:29] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: I thought of modifying grub to automaticlly choose windows with time =0, but I know this is not elegant but rather rudimentary
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: when you delete the ubuntu parftitions, all the config files will go too
[17:30] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: I see, including groob...
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: if you have a windows CD, you can put the boot loader back on the mbr, the ##windows can help you with that
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: grub will be on the mbr still, but there is no /boot partition to look at etc, so it will just sit and expect you to boot it manualy by typing the boot command
[17:31] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks!   so step 1 , format the ext4 partition, step 2 reinstall windows boot loader with their disk
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> commands*
[17:32] <hje841> How do you deploy a gSOAP webservice written as a stand alone server in C++?
[17:33] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Kion1: np :)
[17:35] <dangersalad> Has anyone successfully used the XmlListModel in the Ubuntu Phone SDK? I cannot get it to retrieve data
[17:35] <biglinux> hello
[17:35] <Kion1> biglinux: hello
[17:35] <DJones> dangersalad: Probably best asking in #ubuntu-phone for that
[17:35] <dangersalad> ah ha
[17:35] <dangersalad> thanks
[17:35] <cdavis> Anyone here used installed e17 on 12.10 with ppas?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> cdavis: http://www.itworld.com/software/307124/install-enlightenment-e17-ubuntu-1210
[17:36] <ToBago70>  Ciao a tutti :) un click grazie sul video di Monica Bellucci  http://youtu.be/EZuWHms7N64 
[17:37] <FunGoat_> Is it possible to create a live USB for another distro via startup disk creator? Doesn't let me select iso in question. Does it only work for Ubuntu ISO's?
[17:37] <bazhang> FunGoat_, try unetbootin for that
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> FunGoat_: unetbootin lets you use lots of different distro ISOs
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> FunGoat_: http://media.askvg.com/articles/images/UNetbootin.png
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> FunGoat_: sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unetbootin/wiki/supported-distributions
[17:39] <FunGoat_> bazhang and ActionParsnip: thanks. Will give it a shot. Do you know the answer to my original question? Are other distros purposefully excluded from startup disk creator?
[17:39] <shanky_ty> join #ubuntu
[17:40] <WHAT_UP> shanky_ty: will do
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> FunGoat_: not sure, I always use unetbootin
[17:40] <shanky_ty> hey guy need help how to install nvidia driver in ubuntu 12
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> shanky_ty: which nvidia gpu?
[17:41] <FunGoat_> ActionParsnip: Okay. Unetbootin can target a local ISO as source, correct?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> FunGoat_: yes
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> FunGoat_: install it and see, its a small app
[17:41] <shanky_ty> 9500gt
[17:41] <FunGoat_> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> shanky_ty: then run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:43] <Kion1> ActionParsnip: I usually download the latest from nvidia, then ctrl + alt + f1 to switch to a console, disable lightdm and run the executable
[17:44] <KI4RO> Anyone had any luck downloading gtkpod 2.1.3?
[17:45] <zex> I have tried usign fstab. but no luck can I please share th einfo and then you can tell me if I have done something wrong/
[17:45] <shanky_ty> ActionParsnip: thanks it say already installed  so now how do i configure it
[17:45] <ettore> ciao
[17:45] <ettore> !list
[17:45] <zebaszp> shanky_ty: if you're on Ubuntu 12.10, drivers are available in the Software Sources tool
[17:45] <ettore> !list
[17:45] <shanky_ty> yes i am using 12.10
[17:45] <ettore> !list
[17:45] <zex> Hi guys I need soem help please. How can I get a permanent share up between my Ubuntu and freenas server? I have tried fstab, but that is not helping me at all. I can connect to the share via Nautilus, but I can't seem to find a way to point Plex to that share. PLease can I get some direction please? I am running 12.10
[17:45] <bazhang> ettore, stop that
[17:46] <DJones> ettore: No pirated software/movies here
[17:46] <zex> lol
[17:46] <zebaszp> search for software sources in the Dash
[17:46] <zex> can I post my fstab here ?
[17:46] <Kion1> shanky_ty: just hit the supe key and type nvidia, the configuration program should pop
[17:46] <tor_> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[17:46] <tor_>          installing.
[17:46] <zebaszp> shanky_yt, also, once installed, the Nvidia X Server Settings tool should be installed
[17:46] <bazhang> zex, pastebin not here
[17:47] <tor_> How di i exit the x server before i install a different driver?
[17:47] <jrib> tor_: what are you attempting to install?
[17:47] <krz> ActionParsnip: where is the torrent file for ubuntu 12.4 64bit?
[17:47] <krz> 12.10 i mean ActionParsnip
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> zebaszp  use cat /etc/fstab|pastebinit and paster the url here
[17:47] <CommunistJamie> Does anyone know how to install open office 3.4.1?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> krz  under alternative
[17:47] <zex> http://pastebin.com/D0W3DF3H
[17:47] <krz> url Monk?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> CommunistJamie  the repos contain libreoffice
[17:47] <jrib> CommunistJamie: what ubuntu version are you using?
[17:48] <tor_> Want to install drivers from GeForce..
[17:48] <CommunistJamie> lubuntu 12.10
[17:48] <jrib> !nvidia | tor_
[17:48] <CommunistJamie> I have downloaded the deb.tar.gz for open office from the vendor
[17:48] <krz> MonkeyDust: http://www.ubuntu.com/download where?
[17:48] <jrib> tor_: follow the guide on the wiki.  Ideally, you would use the drivers from the repositories through "Additional Drivers" or "Hardware Drivers" (I forget the exact name)
[17:48] <zex> can you guys get to : http://pastebin.com/D0W3DF3H
[17:48] <jrib> CommunistJamie: you're aware of libreoffice?
[17:48] <Kion1> tor_: if on a tty you type sudo service lightdm stop it should be enough to let you install nvidia drivers
[17:49] <subdesign> trying to run sudo modprobe alx, i get module alx not found . any idea?
[17:49] <CommunistJamie> Not particularly.
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> krz  choose the one you want, then scroll down to alternative
[17:49] <CommunistJamie> In the package manager?
[17:49] <krz> ah
[17:49] <shanky_ty> Kion1: its there, i changed few setting, now  how do i save it ?
[17:49] <krz> MonkeyDust: whats the diff between i386 and and 64?
[17:50] <jrib> CommunistJamie: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice.  Libreoffice is also available through ubuntu's repositories and you might even already have it
[17:50] <zex> can you get to http://pastebin.com/D0W3DF3H
[17:50] <krz> latter is 64 bit right?
[17:50] <DJones> zex: Yes thats working
[17:50] <zex> ok so I still onyl get this back
[17:50] <zex> mount: special device //freenas.local/movies does not exist
[17:51] <zex> I can resolve the name
[17:51] <Kion1> shanky_ty: on the last menu of the nvidia-settings-configuration there is a button that says save current configuration!
[17:51] <krz> ?
[17:51] <krz> anyone?
[17:51] <shanky_ty> Koin1: thanks did thanks a lot bro ...
[17:51] <krz> whats the diff between i386 and and 64?
[17:52] <zex> is there a log file I can see why I get : mount: special device //freenas.local/movies does not exist
[17:52] <shanky_ty> krz: i386 32 bit n 64 is 64 bit
[17:52] <Kion1> Shanky_ty: no problem1 :)
[17:52] <krz> ty
[17:52] <krz> anyone know how to use curl to crawl a website but with a different session each time?
[17:53] <zex> mount: special device //freenas.local/movies does not exist any ideas?
[17:54] <zex> please guys can someone help me as I havebeen tryign to get thsi workign since 8:00 thi smoring it is not 8:0 pm here
[17:55] <littlebearz> zex: it's \\
[17:55] <littlebearz> zex: UNC states that u need back slash
[17:55] <zex> I am sure I have tired that also
[17:55] <zex> let me try agian
[17:55] <littlebearz> zex: freenas.local is not a valid ip or fqdn
[17:56] <Pici> littlebearz: It should work fine with forward slashes.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> zex: when you mount it, run:  cat /etc/mtab   is it present?
[17:56] <littlebearz> Pici: oh really? i always thought u need \ since / is used by windows
[17:57] <zex> this way ?
[17:57] <zex> \\freenas.local\movies \home\arthur\NAS-Share auto username=guest 0 0
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> zex: is that what it sas for the mount?
[17:57] <Pici> zex: you don't need backslashes.  Can you even mount that device anyway?
[17:58] <zex> I can moun tin gui yes
[17:58] <zex> mount in gui yes
[17:58] <littlebearz> zex: any space in names?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> zex: after you mount in GUI, run:   cat /etc/mtab    is there a line for the mount?
[17:58] <zex> one sec
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> zex: this isnt the first time I have asked this, but you never replied
[17:59] <hillary> my laptop ubuntu 12.04 os not detecting printer hp 1010 any more
[17:59] <zex> no it is no tthere
[18:00] <hillary> i have been using last week properly
[18:00] <alo21> hi everybody...
[18:00] <zex> sorry I did say I am ogoign to the shop in my previous posts
[18:00] <zex> so when I run cat /etc/mtab
[18:00] <zex> I get nothing
[18:00] <zex> it is nto there
[18:00] <zex> not there
[18:00] <FloodBot1> zex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <zex> I did
[18:00] <zex> wtf?
[18:01] <alo21> I cannot install Ubuntu raring on my usb with usb-creator-gtk, because I got: checksum not valid
[18:01] <alo21> why?
[18:01] <hillary> am unable to print
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> alo21: ask in #ubuntu+1 for prerelease
[18:01] <hillary> using ubuntu 12.04
[18:01] <hillary> printer hp laserjet 1010
[18:01] <hillary> any help/
[18:02] <hillary> ?
[18:02] <zex> well the help here is refreshing to say the least
[18:02] <alo21> ActionParsnip, OK. Thanks
[18:02] <tor_> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[18:02] <tor_>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[18:02] <tor_>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[18:02] <tor_>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[18:02] <FloodBot1> tor_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> hillary: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_1010.html
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> alo21: is it usb based or parallel
[18:03] <tor_> I want to exit the "x server". How do i do that?
[18:03] <alo21> ActionParsnip, what?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> alo21: is it connected via a usb cable or a parallel cabel
[18:04] <zex> Hi guys I need soem help please. How can I get a permanent share up between my Ubuntu and freenas server? I have tried fstab, but that is not helping me at all. I can connect to the share via Nautilus, but I can't seem to find a way to point Plex to that share. PLease can I get some direction please? I am running 12.10
[18:05] <alo21> ActionParsnip, I think usb
[18:05] <alo21> cable
[18:05] <hillary> i have been printing even last week but it stopped today
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> alo21: have a look at the printer and check
[18:05] <hillary> not detecting printer
[18:05] <Pici> zex: How is it being shared?
[18:06] <xentity1x> My package system is broken. I tired disabling other software sources and running sudo apt-get install -f, but it didn't fix it. This is what I got http://pastebin.com/UVHCuWC6. Can anyone help?
[18:06] <alo21> ActionParsnip, what about the printer?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> tor_: why not use the packaged driver?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> alo21: sorry crossed wires
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> hillary: is it conecting via usb or parallel
[18:07] <hillary> usb
[18:07] <z_Chanshark> can someone tell me the difference between ubuntu in mint?
[18:07] <tor_> When i use the "current" driver, I get nothing on my desktop..
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> hillary: try grabbing the latest hplip from the hplip site, may help
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> tor_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:07] <tor_> And then i had to re install ubuntu.
[18:07] <z_Chanshark> tor_:  whats wrong?
[18:08] <iceroot> is "precise-updates" enabled by default on a 12.04 installation?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: I believe so, not 100% sure
[18:08] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: its trying to install linux 3.5 on this system
[18:09] <tor_> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[18:09] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: sounds like backports/volatile and i cant imaging its enabled by default but i am not sure, on this system it is enabled
[18:09] <alo21> ActionParsnip, sorry, but I do not understand
[18:09] <z_Chanshark> oh beacause every time i think of drivers i think wireless drivers because i had been trying to figure out my wireless dirvers for 3 days :/ never did figure it out
[18:10] <tor_> I am trying to install the drivers i find on nvidia.com
[18:10] <z_Chanshark> tor_:  what kind of drivers
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> hillary: wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.12.11.run; chmod +x ./hplip-3.12.11.run; ./hplip-3.12.11.run
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> tor_: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display     do you see an intel and an Nvidia GPU?
[18:11] <tor_> GeForce 9300ff
[18:11] <Benkinooby> Hi, my system started to freeze more regularly recently. I does not freeze instantly, but "slowly" fewer things are working until complete freeze. dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534938/ syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534946/ kernel.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534950/
[18:11] <z_Chanshark> ActionParsnip:  is his display not working?
[18:11] <Benkinooby> the first thing i notice is, that wireless stops working
[18:11] <alo21> ActionParsnip, what is crossed wires?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> alo21: mixingv 2 users issues up.
[18:12] <z_Chanshark> Benkinooby:  whats your wireless eithernet cabble? wireless usb,  wireless card?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> tor_: did you try running:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    after you installed the driver using the package?
[18:13] <hillary> send  the command again please
[18:13] <Benkinooby> z_Chanshark: lspci | grep 802
[18:13] <Benkinooby> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[18:14] <Benkinooby> z_Chanshark: it's built in (lenovo s12 laptop)
[18:14] <igor_> i am having a difficult time trying to install proprietary video card drivers.  been at it for  hours
[18:14] <hillary> thanks i got
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Benkinooby
[18:14] <hillary> let me try
[18:14] <z_Chanshark> ActionParsnip:  can you tell me the difference between mint and ubuntu?
[18:15] <z_Chanshark> more importainly which accepts more wireless usb adapters
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> z_Chanshark: support community, default applications, some sources for packages
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> z_Chanshark: the driver base and kernel are pretty much identical
[18:15] <igor_> can someone help?
[18:15] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: i don't know if it is the driver - it is merely a symptom that i notice before my whole systems goes down
[18:15] <z_Chanshark> igor_:  what do you need hlep with
[18:16] <LucidGuy> If you were in charge of deploying an office environment consisting of all Linux workstations.  What distro would you deploy?  The organization is primarily research/science.
[18:16] <histo> z_Chanshark: There maybe additional firmware for wireless cards nonfree provided with mint although I'm not 100% on that.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> z_Chanshark  there are plenty reviews, here's one http://www.datamation.com/open-source/linux-mint-vs.-ubuntu-the-best-option-1.html
[18:16] <z_Chanshark> because my wireless usb adapter does not work with mint :/
[18:17] <histo> igor_: what method are you using to try and install them. If you could provide more details it would help
[18:17] <histo> !details | igor_
[18:17] <z_Chanshark> so i was thinking about switching over to ubuntu
[18:17] <igor_> i want to install proprietary drivers for my video card
[18:18] <igor_> i have gone under additional drivers and it says install failed
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> z_Chanshark: try it is all I can say
[18:18] <histo> igor_: What type of video card do you have?
[18:18] <igor_> tried leaving x server and then i could not do anything
[18:18] <igor_> nvidia
[18:18] <histo> ActionParsnip: doesn't mint provide stuff like broadcom firmware etc..
[18:19] <alo21> ActionParsnip, the hash is correct
[18:19] <histo> igor_: can you lspci | grep VGA   at a terminal or console.   and tell us what chipset it is
[18:20] <igor_> geforce 450 GTS
[18:21] <Benkinooby> can some1 have a look at my dmesg and tell my what made my system to freeze? it's quite long, and ends in call traces :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1534938/
[18:21] <histo> igor_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[18:21] <zex> It is simple I have two boxes ( 192.168.254.8 - Freenas) and (192.168.254.6 - Ubuntu with PLex) Local content works 100% I want to point the ubuntu system to the shareof freenas to play the content back. I am not having much joy getting the Ubuntu and plex to see the freenas share. PLease help
[18:21] <histo> zex: what type of share is it?
[18:22] <igor_> is that proprietary?
[18:22] <zex> it is a afs ( apple share
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> histo: I think so
[18:22] <igor_> done
[18:22] <histo> Benkinooby: I would be suspicious of line 1099
[18:23] <igor_> how do i know if i'm running proprietary drivers
[18:23] <histo> Benkinooby: actually nvm ignore that
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> igor_: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver     if it says 'nvidia' it is proprietary
[18:23] <Benkinooby> histo: yes - but to me it looks like the trouble started ealrier, at line 710
[18:24] <histo> igor_: yes
[18:24] <histo> igor_: when you boot into X or your desktop opoen a terminal and glxinfo | grep render
[18:24] <histo> Benkinooby: yeah something is freezing up
[18:25] <Benkinooby> histo: that's waht i figured too XD
[18:25] <histo> Benkinooby: iwconfig is freaking out for some reason
[18:25] <igor_> will that tell me if i have 3d accelleration too.
[18:26] <orbitwhite> igor_, if its not laptop with optimus be sure u have one until propietary driver is loaded
[18:26] <Benkinooby> histo: line 706
[18:26] <Benkinooby> histo: now i wonder - iwconfig or soft lock up - which one is the trouble maker
[18:27] <histo> Benkinooby: I think iwconfig is the problem looking at that but i'm no exper
[18:27] <igor_> i'm trying to get play on linux setup properly and it said that i need to have 3d accelleration enabled.  and i want to make sure it is.
[18:27] <histo> igor_: if you sudo apt-get install mesa-utils  you can use the glxinfo command and see
[18:28] <histo> igor_: glxinfo | grep render   will let you know if you have direct rendering enabled or not
[18:28] <zex> not sure I understand the reason for these irc channels ??
[18:28] <histo> zex: for help
[18:28] <zex> well I have bene asking
[18:28] <zex> been*
[18:28] <zex> It is simple I have two boxes ( 192.168.254.8 - Freenas) and (192.168.254.6 - Ubuntu with PLex) Local content works 100% I want to point the ubuntu system to the shareof freenas to play the content back. I am not having much joy getting the Ubuntu and plex to see the freenas share. PLease help
[18:28] <zex> It is simple I have two boxes ( 192.168.254.8 - Freenas) and (192.168.254.6 - Ubuntu with PLex) Local content works 100% I want to point the ubuntu system to the shareof freenas to play the content back. I am not having much joy getting the Ubuntu and plex to see the freenas share. PLease help
[18:28] <FloodBot1> zex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <histo> !patience | zex
[18:29] <zex> smal room dark no light gun to head
[18:29] <igor_> it says "direct rendering: Yes"  so this means i have 3d acceleration?
[18:29] <zex> so no one can help me mount a network share?
[18:29] <DWSR> Anyone have a link for a quick and dirty tutorial on configuring x?
[18:29] <orbitwhite> if no one answers u just wait until someone will be able to help u, same people as u come here to help others
[18:29] <histo> igor_: or you could use the command /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[18:29] <DWSR> Or just a utility to do it interactively/
[18:30] <histo> igor_: then you are good
[18:30] <igor_> cool. thanks
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> zex: what does the nas use to share?
[18:30] <histo> zex: any reason you are using a apple share?
[18:30] <orbitwhite> some afs he said
[18:30] <adam_8606> hi, where is the gconf entry to undo the "Do not show this message again" when it said you have connected to "wireless network"
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> histo: probably to accommodate apple dumbasses
[18:31] <zex> I have have apple kdevices, but I also have smb share up
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> histo: anything else would be too hard
[18:31] <Dripa> hi, i have a problem with my keyboard, some keys doesnt work,ex  Bloq Mayus , it has a ligth.But if i connect an Usb keyboard and pulse that key that light gets on
[18:31] <histo> zex: Does the apple share work witht eh apple devices?
[18:31] <zex> yep 100%
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> zex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[18:32] <jacklk> Dripa: Using Windows will work.
[18:32] <zex> Yep been there done that
[18:32] <histo> zex: Personally I would create an NFS share and use that.
[18:32] <gatorgar79> hello everyone
[18:32] <histo> zex: but let me find info for you on browsing apple shares
[18:32] <Dripa> jacklk: it doesnt
[18:32] <Benkinooby> histo: ok, my lockups seem to be kernel bugs (as if the big fast BUG note in dmesg would be there for fun :P ). maybe i'll upgrade to 12.10 (i am 12.04 now) or try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685278
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> zex: http://www.swerdna.net.au/susesambacifs.html#permanent
[18:33] <zex> I just want to be able to use Plex to see the share on the server so I can watch my cartoons ;)
[18:33] <gatorgar79> i use ubuntu 10.04 lucid and am looking for a document scanner that works without compiling a bunch of stuff from source any ideas
[18:33] <DWSR> zex: Run Plex on Ubuntu...
[18:33] <zex> It is simple I have two boxes ( 192.168.254.8 - Freenas) and (192.168.254.6 - Ubuntu with PLex) Local content works 100% I want to point the ubuntu system to the shareof freenas to play the content back. I am not having much joy getting the Ubuntu and plex to see the freenas share. PLease help
[18:33] <DWSR> zex: Plex Media Server runs on Ubuntu.
[18:33] <zex> thanks DWSR, but hwo do I get the share to work?
[18:33] <DWSR> Why would you want to use a share?
[18:34] <DWSR> Shove all your drives in your freenas box into Ubuntu.
[18:34] <DWSR> Problem solved.
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: central storage of files
[18:34] <zex> plex is workign and I can play back the content on the ubuntu but I need to have network sghare working
[18:34] <orbitwhite> Benkinooby, try 12.10 if it won't help, try to get the latest drivers for ur card, i've missed which one u have, but i suspect it's still on compat-wireless
[18:34] <blkadder> zex: Can the two hosts see one another?
[18:34] <histo> zex: forget about plex for a minute
[18:34] <blkadder> Can you ping between them for example?
[18:34] <DWSR> zex: Are you running Plex MS or Plex Player on Ubuntu?
[18:34] <Benkinooby> orbitwhite: ok
[18:34] <cleardown> does the new java vuln. affect linux users?
[18:34] <zex> I do not have 15 TB on my ubunti server
[18:34] <histo> zex: you need to get the ubuntu machine to see the content first outside of plex.  Test one thing at a time.
[18:34] <cleardown> should i disable
[18:35] <orbitwhite> Benkinooby, which card u have?
[18:35] <zex> yes that is what I am trying histo
[18:35] <orbitwhite> like `lspci` should help to determine for example
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> cleardown: yes, the webupd8 ppa has the newer version with the fix
[18:35] <cleardown> will update manager get it
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> cleardown: yes if you have the ppa
[18:36] <cleardown> ok
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> cleardown: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:36] <DWSR> Anyone that can tell me how to generate an xorg.conf quickly? Autodetect got the wrong refresh rate.
[18:36] <cleardown> thx ActionParsnip
[18:37] <gatorgar79> anyone here good with hardware in ubuntu i need to find a document scanner that works
[18:37] <histo> zex: I'm not really familiar with "apple shares" so you'll have to wait for someone that is. or mount the samba share.
[18:37] <gatorgar79> send me an instant message
[18:37] <histo> zex: can you see the samba share.
[18:37] <Benkinooby> orbitwhite: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[18:37] <zex> yes I can if i use the ubuntu gui
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: what video chip?
[18:37] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Sec.
[18:38] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: AMD ES1000.
[18:38] <orbitwhite> Benkinooby, never touched broadcom ones but i assume it needs propietary firmware to work that makes things worse
[18:38] <DWSR> histo: Doesn't FreeNAS support NFS shares?
[18:38] <DWSR> histo: Because that would probably be the easiest.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: tried:     sudo aticonfig --initial
[18:38] <zex> it does support NFS
[18:39] <blkadder> zex: go to a shell on the FreeNas server and type "mount" then pastebin the output.
[18:39] <zex> question is what must my fstab lok like
[18:39] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: You want me to install fglrx?
[18:39] <zex> one sec
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> zex: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[18:40] <meelu> im not sure why my ram usage is so high, top command doesn't help, shut down apache too, fresh install memory usage shows near full all the time, any help please?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: I assumed you had it in
[18:40] <phunyguy> I have another question for the group.  On my work PC, I have to proxy EVERYTHING, so I have that set up system-wide via system-settings.  However there is one small thing that doesn't get proxied, and I can't figure out how to make it proxy.  The flash plugin says that extra stuff needs to be downloaded, and i can run this action now, or close.  It never runs when I tell it to, it just times out.
[18:40] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: It's a Dell PowerEdge 2950. I wasn't aware that Ubuntu's base drivers were so poor that they don't support 6 year old hardware.
[18:41] <zex> http://pastebin.com/AD5TXcng
[18:41] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: I just need to change the refresh rate.
[18:41] <blkadder> zex: And what share are you trying to see?
[18:41] <orbitwhite> Benkinooby, this could also help, read it carefully it may contain keys to whats goint on http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmware
[18:42] <blkadder> The /mnt/FreeNas?
[18:42] <zex> yes
[18:42] <blkadder> Ok first that is exported as NFS.
[18:42] <histo> zex: what are you posting your fstab from Freenas
[18:42] <blkadder> So what is all of this stuff about Apple shares?
[18:42] <zex> yes
[18:42] <histo> zex: Why?
[18:43] <blkadder> I asked him to histo
[18:43] <histo> zex: there isn't a problem with freenas there is a problem with Ubuntu.
[18:43] <blkadder> I wanted to see how he had stuff exported.
[18:43] <zex> cause I have an apple Macbook?
[18:43] <zex> correct
[18:43] <blkadder> Right but your server is exporting NFS.
[18:43] <blkadder> Not AFP
[18:43] <histo> zex: so Ubuntu can see the share but plex cant
[18:43] <histo> blkadder: doesnt' matter
[18:43] <DWSR> zex: ls /mnt/FreeNas
[18:43] <DWSR> Does that give you back the contents of your share?
[18:44] <blkadder> histo: Depending on how he is trying to mount it it might.
[18:44] <zex> plex askes the location of the share
[18:44] <zex> ot location of the folder where you media is located
[18:44] <histo> zex: But am I right that Ubuntu can see the share and browse it
[18:44] <mbeierl> Using lubuntu 12.10 - I accidentally clicked on a notification where it said "don't show this message again."  Does anyone know how to get that back, or to reset the notification settings?
[18:44] <histo> ?
[18:45] <zex> yep if I use Nautilus
[18:45] <blkadder> zex: Is the issue that you can't see it on your Macbook or on Ubuntu?
[18:45] <DWSR> zex: You can either tell Plex the share name for Ubuntu remotely.
[18:45] <histo> blkadder: he can't see it in a program called plex
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> what's plex?
[18:45] <DWSR> zex: Or you can tell Plex the local folder it's located in (/mnt/FreeNas)
[18:45] <blkadder> But he can see it in the OS?
[18:45] <DWSR> MonkeyDust: plexapp.com
[18:45] <histo> zex: You need to mount the share on your ubuntu machine.
[18:45] <orbitwhite> D:
[18:45] <zex> I am tryung to see the share from ubuntu for plex . SHare is on my freenas
[18:45] <histo> zex: then just point plex at the mounted folder
[18:46] <DWSR> histo: Unless of course he's having permissions issues.
[18:46] <zex> where does ubuntu map the share to is I use nautilus/?
[18:46] <zex> I have looked under /mnt but it is nt there
[18:46] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: aticonfig --initial "no supported adapters detected"
[18:46] <histo> zex: it's in a folder under your home
[18:46] <blkadder> zex: Go to a shell on the Ubuntu server and do a "mount" and send me the output.
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> zex: look in /run
[18:47] <zex> http://pastebin.com/KPu71akc
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> zex: you will find a folder for your user and then a folder called gvfs
[18:47] <histo> zex: on ubuntu sudo mkdir /mnt/share  && sudo mount
[18:47] <histo> zex: hold on sorry line truncated
[18:48] <zex> omg
[18:48] <zex> one sec
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> zex: try:  sudo updatedb; locate gvfs   what is output?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> zex: /run/user/arthur/gvfs    is ity there by any chance?
[18:50] <histo> zex: sudo mkdir /mnt/share && sudo mount //192.168.xxx.xxx/path
[18:50] <histo> zex: /mnt/share
[18:50] <histo> stupid keyboard
[18:50] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> histo: once it's mounted in gui, it goes into the folder in /run which can be used
[18:50] <ShapeShifter499> ubuntu 12 should run in virtual pc 7 right?
[18:50] <histo> ActionParsnip: I think it goes in a .gvfs folder in the users home I believe
[18:51] <histo> ActionParsnip: with some uuid numbering or somehting
[18:51] <zex> ok I can see the map : /run/user/arthur/gvfs/afp-volume:host=Freenas.local,user=anonymous,volume=Movies$
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> histo: not any more, look at the mount output
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> ShapeShifter499  you mean as a virtual machine in win7?
[18:51] <zex> but plex does nto see that
[18:51] <histo> ActionParsnip: When did they switch the way nautilus does it?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> zex: could run:  ln -s /run/user/arthur/gvfs/afp-volume ~/NAS
[18:51] <histo> zex: just mount it manually like I instructed
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> histo: no idea
[18:51] <histo> zex: first unmount it
[18:52] <zex> histo let me try one sec please
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> zex: try the command, it should work
[18:53] <zex> let me try one sec
[18:53] <johndoe_> Hi. I've been using dhclient in a script to search for dhcp servers for some network surveillance. Now, dhclient was turned into an upstart script and I get complains using my script. How can I run a dhcp client on a specific interface and only on that interface at any time?
[18:53] <ShapeShifter499> I really want to use my old powerbook g4 /w powerpc for video streaming/media center, airplay, and a server but the tools for airplay and media only seem to work on mac os 10.5 and no where else, so I'd have to run ubuntu in the background with virtual pc 7 or qemu, which from research is slow on this comp
[18:53] <ShapeShifter499> MonkeyDust, no I mean the old vitual pc 7 for powerpc machines
[18:53] <zex> mount: can't find //192.168.254.8/Movies in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:54] <zex> also tied this mount: can't find //freenas.local/Movies in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:54] <histo> zex: sudo mount
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> ShapeShifter499  what do you mean by 'ubuntu in the background'? of what exactly?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> zex: did the symlink work ok?
[18:55] <zex> the link is there
[18:55] <zex> yes and I can see the content
[18:55] <histo> ActionParsnip: he needs to learn how to mount it then he can put it in his fstab on the ubuntu box. rather than having to browse to it first in nautilus then openinjg plex
[18:55] <zex> but how do I add that folder to Plex? as the broswer interface does nto go past this position in link
[18:56] <user82> hi. my notebook all over sudden reports a wrong max capacity of the battery. how can i reset/fix this?
[18:56] <user82> battery out in reboot?
[18:57] <zex> I can oly get to : /run/user/arthur
[18:57] <ShapeShifter499> MonkeyDust, my setup would be Mac OS X 10.5 with xbmc + airserver for the media center and ubuntu 12 running in some virtualization (qemu, a older virtualbox version, or virtual pc 7) for the server tools
[18:57] <zex> can not see gvfs folder
[18:57] <histo> zex: sudo mount 192.168.254.8:/path/to/Movies /where/ever/you/want/to/mount
[18:57] <histo> zex: that would use NFS
[18:57] <zex> mount.nfs: mount point /home/arthur/HERE does not exist
[18:58] <blkadder> mount 192.168.254.8:/mnt/FreeNas /mnt
[18:58] <zex> arthur@Mordor:/$ sudo mount 192.168.254.8:/path/to/Movies /home/arthur/HERE
[18:58] <Benkinooby> orbitwhite: ok
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> ShapeShifter499  yes, just run ubuntu as a virtual machine in mac os - or is that not what you mean?
[18:58] <zex> getting somewhere
[18:58] <ShapeShifter499> MonkeyDust, right now I'm installing Mac OS X 10.5 on this old powerbook g4, haven't looked into running ubuntu in virtual pc yet so I don't know if that would work
[18:58] <histo> zex: You're not understanding i'm merely explaining: mount -t nfs nameofcomputer:/directory_on_that_machine /directory_you_should_have_already_created
[18:59] <ubuntu-tester> user82: what capacity system reports?
[18:59] <zex> http://pastebin.com/XRrq3QRq
[18:59] <ShapeShifter499> MonkeyDust, from what I researched VirtualPC7 is the last version that works for powerpc systems and I'm not sure if ubuntu will work on it
[18:59] <blkadder> That is a FreeNAS server config issue.
[18:59] <histo> zex: is the share in /mnt/FreeNAS
[18:59] <user82> ubuntu-tester gnome energy monitor says: energy(design) 51.4Wh(correct) Capacity when fully charged: 134.2Wh(totally wring)
[19:00] <histo> zex: or is it /mnt/FreeNas/Movies
[19:00] <user82> so the percentage is totally wrong...the time left not
[19:00] <zex> in /mnt/FreeNas/Movies
[19:00] <ShapeShifter499> MonkeyDust, also Virtual PC 7 seems to be the fastest virtualization software I can use
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> ShapeShifter499  give it try and post your findings as a review
[19:00] <zex> I di d
[19:00] <zex> I did sudo mount 192.168.254.8:/mnt/FreeNas/Movies /mnt
[19:00] <zex> and it did nto bitch
[19:01] <blkadder> Then try mount 192.168.254:/mnt/FreeNas/Movies
[19:01] <histo> zex: now plex should be able to browse /mnt and see the content
[19:01] <zex> let me see
[19:01] <histo> blkadder: please
[19:01] <ShapeShifter499> MonkeyDust, ok, sure
[19:02] <zex> ffs when I browse to /mnt I soo nothing
[19:02] <zex> see nothing
[19:02] <zex> when i go cd /mnt I get -bash: cd: /mnt/: Permission denied
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> zex: i'd just mount it using GUI, then use the symlink :)
[19:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: then he needs to do that everytime before using plex.
[19:02] <blkadder> ls -al /mnt
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> histo: least there is a way to get it flying til the mount can be made
[19:03] <histo> I thought he wanted to do this in fstab anyways.... Maybe i'm confused. I just want him to mount it normally first
[19:03] <histo> zex: please type just "mount" in a terminal and pastebin the output.
[19:03] <zex> 192.168.254.8:/mnt/FreeNas/Movies on /mnt type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.254.8)
[19:04] <zex> seems it is mounted... but now how do I point plex to that mount point?
[19:04] <telematika> alo
[19:04] <histo> zex: can you ls /mnt/  do you see any files?
[19:04] <upset> Even though I have changed all my default fonts, some text is being rendered in the ubuntu font.
[19:04] <zex> if i go to /mnt in plex vie firefox I do not get to see anything in the /mnt folder
[19:05] <upset> What can I do?
[19:05] <zex> ls: cannot open directory /mnt/: Permission denied
[19:05] <histo> zex: also can you please post the output of mount by itself so I can see how gvfs mounted the share.
[19:06] <zex> http://pastebin.com/AKZKntkh
[19:06] <zex> mount commin up one sec
[19:07] <zex> here is the mount
[19:07] <zex> http://pastebin.com/2YNECa1D
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> looks good
[19:07] <zex> ok so last thing to do it get the pleg media manager ( in firefox ) to see the /mnt
[19:08] <blkadder> ls -al /mnt
[19:08] <histo> zex: no you have to use sudo to get a directory listing currently?
[19:08] <histo> there is a permissionis issue please do blkadders command
[19:08] <zex> ye I had to use sudo
[19:09] <blkadder> And probably something like chmod 755 /mnt
[19:09] <El_Fantasma_> .
[19:09] <histo> zex: follow this page
[19:09] <histo> zex: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-nfs-client-configuration-to-mount-nfs-share.html
[19:09] <El_Fantasma_> EL FANTASMA!
[19:10] <zex> let me chekc it out thanks guys!!!
[19:12] <histo> zex: also why wouldn't you put the plex media server on the freenas box.
[19:12] <zex> you can't :P
[19:12] <histo> zex: and then the clients on the other boxes.
[19:13] <histo> zex: do they even make a ubuntu app to browse your media then?
[19:13] <zex> nope :P hence the drive to see if I get the share to work
[19:14] <histo> zex: What are you going to use as a plex client?
[19:14] <zex> appletv
[19:14] <zex> from that link they suggest this sudo mount -o soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.1.1:/viveks /nfs
[19:14] <histo> ahh
[19:14] <zex> I get access denied by server while mounting 192.168.254.8:/viveks
[19:14] <zex> I have one question
[19:15] <histo> zex: becuae /viveks is the directory yours is /mnt/FreeNas/Movies  remember
[19:15] <zex> I have a TV that is NDLA enabled
[19:15] <zex> will it be able to see the plex ?
[19:15] <histo> zex: then there are easier ways to do this.
[19:15] <raven> anyone who knows about xslt?
[19:15] <zex> server?
[19:15] <zex> please tel me
[19:15] <histo> zex: I don't know if plex does dlna or what protocal its using.
[19:15] <zex> I think it is
[19:15] <histo> zex: then yes
[19:16] <histo> zex: You have an issue understanding the mount command. Let me give you an example.
[19:17] <histo> zex: mount -o options,that,you,want ip.address.of.freenas:/path_to_share_on_freenas_box /directory_that_you_want_to_mount_to_must_exist
[19:18] <zex> got that
[19:18] <histo> zex: okay then why are you trying to type /vivek
[19:18] <histo> zex: does the /viveks folder exist on your freenas box?
[19:18] <zex> yuo gave mte the handy link : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-nfs-client-configuration-to-mount-nfs-share.html
[19:19] <zex> there is a step
[19:19] <zex> under Task: Mount Shared Directory
[19:19] <histo> omfg
[19:19] <zex> and I think I am loosing my mind
[19:19] <histo> zex: You need to read litterally what I typed to you
[19:19] <histo> zex: it shows how the mount command works
[19:20] <zex> yes I now see my error.. dude I have een tryign to get thsi working sinse 8:0 am .. it is now 21:20 here
[19:20] <histo> zex: then take the examples on that page. *don't copy and paste them* adapt them to your situatioin
[19:21] <rich> hello?
[19:21] <histo> rich: hola
[19:22] <histo> zex: I would take a break then and come back to it.
[19:22] <rich> Hi there, I was looking for some help installing ubuntu on vm fusion, am I in the right place?
[19:22] <histo> zex: This is all due to a misunderstanding of how the mount command works.
[19:22] <histo> rich: what sort of problems are you having?
[19:23] <zex> lok guys I had it for one day. I am no expert hence soem of the problems
[19:23] <zex> thansk for the help
[19:23] <histo> zex: I would just read up on the mount commmand and understand that first
[19:24] <histo> zex: and what it does. Then you will see how silly this all is once you understand it.
[19:24] <zex> will do thanks guys
[19:24] <rich> I get most of the way through installing on vmfusion on a macbook, I notice a prompt of host smbus not installed, but it seems to continue to the point where you login. After I enter the password, it just says there is an error with the machine and shuts down..
[19:24] <histo> rich: what are you using to install an iso?
[19:25] <rethus> hi
[19:25] <rich> Vmfusion 5, I've tried 12.04/12.10 both 32 and 64 bit
[19:25] <meet> how to change the ubuntu splash screen?
[19:25] <meet> the one before the login screen
[19:25] <histo> rich: right how are you trying to install ubuntu what is your source
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Meet: you mean before you log in?
[19:25] <rethus> i have a script, that adjust brightness of my lapop with this line: echo $val > /sys/class/backlight/sony/brightness
[19:26] <rethus> problem, i must execute as root.
[19:26] <meet> ActionParsnip: yes
[19:26] <fidel_> hi - is there an option to configure what folders/location are shown in nautilus sidebar under 'computer'?
[19:26] <rethus> entry in /etc/sudoers and chmod 777 to script take no effect
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Meet: look for Plymouth themes
[19:26] <rich> The source of the iso? Ubuntu's website. Not sure if that is what you mean?
[19:26] <fidel_> using nautilus: 3.4.2 here
[19:26] <rethus> any idea, how i could execute it without passwd-prompt?
[19:26] <Steve___> Hi. can i ask for help please?
[19:26] <histo> !md5 | rich
[19:26] <fidel_> !ask | Guest30151
[19:27] <meet> ActionParsnip: i tried that actually.. btw while apt-get update.. i m getting an error .. can you have a look at it?
[19:27] <Guest30151> How can i run play on linux as root?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Rethus: you will need to add an entry in: sudo visudo
[19:27] <Guest30151> Hm?
[19:27] <rethus> there is a entry ActionParsnip
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Meet: sure, pastebin the text
[19:28] <rethus> suther ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/sonyLcdBrightness
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest30151  #winehq
[19:28] <Guest30151> What is that?
[19:28] <meet> ActionParsnip: http://fpaste.org/3J8v/
[19:29] <orbitwhite> rethus, u can specify certain commands or scenarios in there to be executed without auth over sudo, just google about "debian sudoers command" or smth like that
[19:29] <rich> Thanks Histo/ubottu... I'll have a look at that.. Appreciate it
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest30151  type /join #winehq, ask there
[19:30] <mbeierl> Guest30151: do you mean "how do I switch user to root"?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Meet: does the ppa support Quantal?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Retus: gimme a sec, I'll check mine
[19:31] <histo> rich: http://www.google.com/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=en&source=hp&q=installing+ubuntu+12.04+on+vmware+f
[19:31] <histo> rich: sorry meant this one http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3De8U79XGPmBE&sa=U&ei=Ua71UI6_FoHa8
[19:32] <meet> ActionParsnip: did not understand.
[19:32] <Guest30151> MonkeyDust. people are not answering me at wineHQ
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest30151  wait a bit longer, then
[19:33] <mbeierl> Guest30151: what exactly is your question - how does one play windows games, or how does one use "root" ?
[19:34] <Guest30151> How to use play on linux on ubuntu as root
[19:34] <fidel_> Guest30151: what is your nativel anguage?
[19:34] <Guest30151>  o.o
[19:34] <mbeierl> Guest30151: that question makes no sense.  There is no game called "root" that you can play.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Rethus: add a percent sign before the username in visudo
[19:34] <rich> histo: Thanks, funnily enough I've had a look at that. Everything goes well up to the point about 7:15 into the video (apart from the "host SMBus controller not enabled" problem), I type the password to login and it just crashes.
[19:34] <Guest30151> Play o nlinux is a program...
[19:34] <Guest30151> play on linux*
[19:35] <Guest30151> And root is like admin
[19:35] <Guest30151> And it won't let me run play on linux when i am root.
[19:35] <mbeierl> Guest30151: and the error you get is ...?
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Meet: check the ppa page. Not all ppas support all releases.
[19:35] <zex> ok I have one more quesiton guys
[19:35] <zex> I manged to get the symb link up for the freenas server
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> Guest30151  "PlayOnLinux is a graphical front-end for the Wine software compatibility layer which aims to simplify the installation of Windows-based applications"
[19:35] <xubuntu> hallo
[19:35] <meet> ActionParsnip: but how do i remove the error?
[19:35] <zex> ow do I get the permision chanced on that folder?
[19:36] <zex> afp-volume:host=Freenas.local,user=anonymous,volume=Movies/
[19:36] <Guest30151> Exactly. i want to run conquer online using it.
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: I use play on Linux.  I run it as user
[19:36] <Guest30151> and it gives me a error and says pol is not supposed to be run as root
[19:36] <Guest30151> i want to run it as root.
[19:36] <mbeierl> !root
[19:37] <ActionParsnip>  Guest30151: what is the output : lsb_release -sc
[19:37] <Guest30151> I AM ALREADY ROOT -_-
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> caps
[19:37] <Guest30151> Sorry on caps
[19:37] <Guest30151> Dam keyboard o.o
[19:37] <zex> kick it :)
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: please run the command.  What is output
[19:38] <Guest30151> what command?
[19:38] <rethus> i have the lines
[19:38] <rethus> keycode 232 = XF86MonBrightnessDown NoSymbol XF86MonBrightnessDown
[19:38] <rethus> keycode 233 = XF86MonBrightnessUp NoSymbol XF86MonBrightnessUp
[19:38] <rethus> in my Xmodmap. how can i add a script to execute on lxde on it?
[19:38] <FloodBot1> rethus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: lsb_release -a
[19:39] <Guest30151> root@ionized:~# lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 12.10 Release:	12.10 Codename:	quantal root@ionized:~#
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: why are you logging in as root? It's no t wise at all
[19:40] <Guest30151> I know.
[19:40] <Guest30151> But am stuck like this
[19:40] <Guest30151> I know what i'm doing.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: tonnes of applications will not run as root because it's dumb
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: you really don't
[19:40] <Guest30151> most of them has a way to bypass that.
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> Guest30151  exit root, then run playonlinux
[19:41] <Guest30151> The normal account has no customizations
[19:41] <pijush> hi
[19:41] <mbeierl> Guest30151: if you know what you are doing, then why are you asking?  Sorry to sound rude, but really running things as root is not the way ubuntu's desktop is set up
[19:41] <orbitwhite> he knows what hes doing
[19:41] <Guest30151> Root has customizations i kept making for 3 monthes
[19:41] <rethus> how can i fire a script on lxde by keypress
[19:41] <rethus> xModmap
[19:41] <JohnUK89> Running stuff as root is just asking for them to do bad things to your system
[19:41] <rethus> or gui
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: so you would know that running Xorg and web browsers and especially irc clients is particularly foolhardy
[19:42] <Guest30151> I have been running those for 3 monthes with no probs lol,
[19:42] <Guest30151> And you can easily shut down Xorg control.
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: im gonna go with that you have no idea why too
[19:42] <mbeierl> well, you have probs now, lol...
[19:43] <orbitwhite> he knows what hes doing
[19:43] <Guest30151> Just tell me how to run pol as root dude.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: Xorg runs as user. So it is easily killable by user
[19:43] <bekks> orbitwhite: I doubt that, strongly.
[19:43] <Guest30151> Easier to kill by root :D
[19:44] <Ray2> Where to find numlock in 12.04.1
[19:44] <Guest30151> Now just tell me __-
[19:44] <ActionParsnip>  Guest30151: you will need to recompile it to remove the check
[19:44] <Guest30151> No probs.
[19:44] <Guest30151> I can compile it
[19:44] <The_Jag> Hi all, I need help configuring grub for a triboot system
[19:44] <Guest30151> But which part of the code has that annoying check?
[19:44] <The_Jag> I need to edit the entries
[19:44] <The_Jag> any help?
[19:44] <orbitwhite> as for me i'm afraid his mind is too beyond mine so i wouldn't try to give him any advices because as it was mentioned before he already knows what hes doing
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: I have my "I told you so" flag ready for you
[19:45] <The_Jag> I'm on Kubuntu
[19:45] <The_Jag> 12.10
[19:45] <Guest30151> Told me what?
[19:45] <mbeierl> Is acroread completely gone from the repos (12.10)?
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: ask in tje channel for the application.  Alternatively you can use the app as it is supposed to be used and have zero issues
[19:46] <micw_> hi
[19:46] <The_Jag> anyone?
[19:47] <micw_> i try to run xbmc on a ubuntu 12.04. most works out of the box except the remote. lirc_atiusb is missing. does anyone know where i can find it?
[19:47] <slowz> Guest30151, you can copy all your customizations from the root folder to the user. .config .gtk* ect.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: don't you think the guys who code the application know just a little more than you and would put a check like that in for a really good reason
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151: but you know what you are doing
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest30151:right?
[19:48] <Ray2> Where to turn on numlock in 12.04.1
[19:48] <OerHeks> Guest30151, just make a user account on your Backtrack :P
[19:49] <PjotrOrial> Hi, so when I try to report a bug,
[19:49] <PjotrOrial> sb@sd:~$ apport-bug
[19:49] <PjotrOrial> *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/python3: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x095121a8 ***
[19:49] <PjotrOrial> I get a memory corruption. I do get this corruption as well when trying to start VirtualBox, how would I repair such?
[19:49] <CommunistJamie> Question?
[19:49] <bekks> Answer.
[19:49] <CommunistJamie> Where would I find phpmyadmin after I've installed it?
[19:50] <CommunistJamie> It's not localhost/phpmyadmin
[19:50] <bekks> CommunistJamie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin -- did you configure it already?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Communistjamie: try:  sudo updatedb; locate phpmyadmin
[19:51] <CommunistJamie> I followed a tutorial and installed the packages and the dependencies.
[19:51] <epicfail> How do i get ybuntu phone on my samsung s3
[19:51] <speckz> CommunistJamie, /usr/share/phpmyadmin/ for me
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> Epicfail: try #ubuntu-phone
[19:52] <OerHeks> !phone
[19:52] <CommunistJamie> Yeah. Mine is there.
[19:52] <epicfail> Thnx dude
[19:52] <CommunistJamie> How would I get it to display on localhost/phpmyadmin?
[19:52] <bekks> CommunistJamie: You have to configure your webserver to access it on localhost/phpmyadmin
[19:53] <OerHeks> epicfail, if not, try #ubuntu-arm if your device has ARM
[19:53] <Pici> CommunistJamie: make sure that you have a symlink to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf in /etc/apache2/conf.d/
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Communistjamie: I'd check the link bekks gave
[19:54] <zex> any south african people here?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Zex: this is support. Location is moot
[19:54] <zex> lol I have rezched a poitn where I willing to pay 1 year of beer to get my problem solved.
[19:55] <Pici> !za
[19:55] <orbitwhite> u need to find someone to fix it for 1 day of crack
[19:55] <zex> crack
[19:55] <orbitwhite> meth will fit also lol
[19:55] <zex> dude I will give up ,y sister for this
[19:56] <epicfail> Someone knows when ubuntu phone releces
[19:57] <CommunistJamie> Cheers guys.
[19:57] <CommunistJamie> All sorted.
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Epicfail: omgubuntu has some details on it
[19:57] <orbitwhite> epicfail, Source code and image should arrive end of Feb '13 (c) #ubuntu-phone topic
[19:59] <Ray2> Where to find numlock in 12.04.1
[19:59] <bekks> Ray2: Isnt that a key on your keyboard?
[20:01] <Ray2> bekks But how do I turn it on when trying to enter password at login without clicking key
[20:01] <bekks> Ray2: By holding the shift key.
[20:01] <bekks> Ray2: Which has the same effect.
[20:01] <bekks> GNA - no.
[20:02] <zebaszp> wow, I didn't know that shift/num lock thing
[20:02] <bekks> Ray2: Why do you need numlock? All keys available through numlock are availanle without numlock, too.
[20:02] <bekks> zebaszp: It was a mistake.
[20:02] <zebaszp> makes a load of sense, though
[20:02] <rich> histo: I found the answer!
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Ray2: look into numlockx
[20:02] <bekks> zebaszp: Replace numlock with caps, and suddenly it makes a lot of sense :P
[20:03] <epimeth> hi all!  I'm trying to install ubuntu server to microsoft virtual pc to no avail... I tried nomodeset as well as selecting "minimal install to virtual machine" ... any ideas?  Googling gave me a bunch of older information including vga=791 and something about paravirt.  Nothing works.  The VM just shuts down after hitting "install"
[20:03] <ubuntu-tester> zebaszp, bekks: mee too, thank you
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> sudo numlockx on
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Epimeth: is it a known issue with ms virtual pc?
[20:04] <Ray2> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[20:05] <zebaszp> Epimeth, why not use VirtualBox?
[20:05] <tion> can i report a bug?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Epimeth: any particular reason for using the Microsoft product instead of virtualbox or vmware?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Tion: anyone can
[20:06] <tion> because MS is the standard  software house for the PC
[20:06] <gatorgar79> anyone know of a document scanner that works in ubuntu
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Tion: just run: ubuntu-bug packagename      and it will start the process
[20:07] <slacko28636> hello
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Tion: what is a software house?
[20:07] <gatorgar79> hello slacko
[20:07] <tion> /etc/fstab lists /dev/sda7 and in gparted its listed has sdb7
[20:07] <gatorgar79> how are you
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Tion: do you mean "default installed" ?
[20:08] <tion> maybe aim doing something wrong or its a bug
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Tion: fstab only lists the names from install time as comments.  It uses the UUID
[20:09] <epimeth> ActionParsnip: I have installed it in the past using something along those lines (vga= and paravirt) but don't remember how exactly.  Also, it was an older version of ubuntu.  As for why MS instead of other: a combination of laziness (as it is already installed for XP mode), knowing it should work, and just plain preferring how MS VPC looks and acts.  Bottom line, no specific reason I just want to have it
[20:09] <tion> ok so its a bug
[20:10] <ubuntu-tester> tion: and Disks utility lists ...?
[20:10] <susanna> hi everybody
[20:10] <jahlfrezi> how can I configure wireless+wired at the same time? I'm trying to let a computer in the local network access the internet through my laptop, which is the only one to reach anywhere wirelessly. :)
[20:10] <tete_> hi, i have ubuntu studio running and i can see that there is some input from my e guitar but i get no sound output... can someone help me with that?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Epimeth: if it's a known issue then you will need to use the older version and upgrade or use something else
[20:11] <tion> or maybe some one needs to update this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConvertFilesystemToExt4
[20:11] <epimeth> ActionParsnip: I did a bunch of searching.... I don't know that it is a known issue
[20:11] <tion> #code: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Jahlfrezi: if you define the wired in /etc/network/interfaces   you can let network manager deal with the wifi
[20:13] <jahlfrezi> thanks ActionParsnip, I was considering that, but thought it could cause issues between the two :)
[20:13] <ActionParsnip>  Epimeth: tried asking in ##windows
[20:13] <minas> hi, why does the dash take a lot of time to load the first time I open it after tirning the pc on?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Jahlfrezi: network manager will see the wired connection as 'unmanageable' but you won't care
[20:14] <epimeth> ActionParsnip: really?  "lol" is overused but in this case I actually did out loud.  I would say that the chance of me getting support for this there is actually negative
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Epimeth: then you know your choices. Considering virtualbox and vmware have been making virtualization software for a tonne longer than Microsoft,  I'm surprised anyone would use their offering
[20:16] <ubuntu-tester> !ubottu
[20:16] <jahlfrezi> ActionParsnip: yeah, true, but I just added a static entry in the interfaces file and did a networking restart, but for some reason, it seems eth0 is not coming up
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Epimeth: as in, I thought it would be laughed out as a joke
[20:17] <tion> disk utility the same /dev/sdb7
[20:17] <tion> as gparted
[20:17] <zilla> ActionParsnip: im trying to add getdeb pgp key and my cursor just keeps blinking
[20:17] <zilla> ActionParsnip: how do I get the key file to add?
[20:18] <ubuntu-tester> !inetsharing | tete_
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Zilla: getdeb is far from reliable
[20:18] <zilla> ActionParsnip: okay thanks
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Zilla: try their web page too
[20:18] <epimeth> ActionParsnip: all true and I'll probably end up doing that if I can't figure this out
[20:19] <tion> can someone kill who ever pushed the use UIDS as default
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Tion: those labels change so now UUIDs are used.  These are static
[20:19] <tion> and deprecated the convetional /sdb etc
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Tion: its a better system
[20:20] <tion> its not HUMAN READABLE
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Tion: if you add a new drive the drive names can change equals no boot
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Tion: if you run:  sudo bllid   you will see the UUID mapping
[20:22] <tion> so the system would use UISI this one to update fstab in a proper maner and get out of the way
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Sorry
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> sudo blkid
[20:23] <ubuntu-tester> tion: trust the majority :)
[20:23] <tion> majority = Hurd
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Tion: if you shove in a PATA drive (for example) it will become sda and the current drive will be sdb. Grub will not find its data and your system will not boot
[20:24] <ubuntu-tester> tion: given the explanations above, there's no alternative to UUIDs today
[20:24] <niclas> Hi
[20:24] <tion> why in the 1at place would the new drive overcome the older installed drive thats nuts
[20:25] <vitimiti> salut
[20:25] <POVaddct> ubuntu-tester: there is also filesystem label based mount
[20:25] <Midec> Alright, I'm trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 64bit, i currently have ubuntu 12.10 32bit, im making my way through doing the fresh install(i want to erase everything and start over new)  and i get the error "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda"  every time.  I am a big noob when it comes to this, so help me like a child.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Tion: so you propose a possible non booting OS for hunan readability.  For the audience of ubuntu.  Not going to happen
[20:25] <Guest11330> is it possible to install ubuntu 12.04 with other bootloader than grub 2?
[20:25] <niclas> I recently started using Ubuntu (coming from Windows) and I'm stuck on trying to get Python 3.3 and Django 1.5 working. Could someone help me out a bit?
[20:25] <tion> this bug wasnt adfressed has NSA likes to have really access to HW UIDS
[20:26] <tion> thats the only reason
[20:26] <tion> that and to piss me off
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest11330: sure.  LILO is in the repos too
[20:26] <bekks> tion: Of course you can still use the ancient /dev/sdXY notation.
[20:27] <POVaddct> tion: UUIDs are _not_ hardware IDs
[20:27] <tion> not for long since ubuntu is going TM way
[20:27] <POVaddct> tion: at least filesystem UUIDs aren't
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Tion: you can still mount in the old style yourself
[20:27] <Midec> Alright, I'm trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 64bit, i currently have ubuntu 12.10 32bit, im making my way through doing the fresh install(i want to erase everything and start over new)  and i get the error "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda"  every time.  I am a big noob when it comes to this, so help me like a child.  (if you could, pm me with the help because It's hard to filter through all this chat)
[20:28] <ubuntu-tester> POVaddct: ...and that label has to be UUID to be reliable
[20:28] <jaker555> how to give root persmission to a folder ?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Jaker555: do you mean ownership
[20:28] <jaker555> ownership yes
[20:29] <jaker555> if i change it to my admin account other than " root " it breaks ubuntu
[20:29] <Guest11330> ActionParsnip , so i first install ubuntu with grub 2 which is the the one that comes with live cd and then change it to lilo using software source?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Jaker555: look into chown. Be careful
[20:29] <tion> can i resize / once i upgrade FS to ext4?
[20:29] <bekks> jaker555: Which folder do you talk about?
[20:29] <jaker555> yes but what do i do with chown ? i use $user for my admin account
[20:29] <jaker555> in var/log/gdm <- locked to root
[20:29] <jaker555> if i change it to my jaker account it breaks ubuntu
[20:29] <POVaddct> ubuntu-tester: i agree that fs UUIDs are more reliable than fs labels. but they would be more human readable.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest11330: yes. Imstall lilo and remove grub
[20:29] <jaker555> the theme disappear
[20:29] <ubuntu-tester> Midec: what installation media do you have?
[20:30] <bekks> jaker555: Then just leave it as it is. What do you want to achieve actually?
[20:30] <tion> UIDS are machine code
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Jaker555: why not just run: gksudo gedit       then open the file
[20:30] <bekks> tion: Thats just not true. :)
[20:30] <Midec> ubuntu-tester: what do you mean?  i am using a USB stick to do the install(i am a big noob at this)
[20:31] <michele> i already have ubuntu-server installed. how do I launch the tasksel for "ubuntu software selection" (like http://askubuntu.com/questions/153265/what-does-the-basic-ubuntu-server-package-contain-in-software-selection-during ) ?
[20:31] <POVaddct> tion: UUIDs are not code at all. they are just big numbers, randomly generated.
[20:31] <tion> yes
[20:31] <tion> they are made by machines for machines
[20:31] <jaker555> actionparsnip i don't have time for that
[20:31] <jaker555> logs are not important
[20:31] <bekks> jaker555: Then just leave it as it is. What do you want to achieve actually?
[20:31] <jaker555> i want full access
[20:32] <jhalfrezi> not quite successful :(
[20:32] <bekks> jaker555: So you want to access it with another user, as well?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Tion: the UUID is generated when the partition is made. Thats how each one has a UUID
[20:32] <POVaddct> tion: then "machine code" is the wrong term because it refers to something executable
[20:32] <jhalfrezi> as soon as I plug in the eth0 cable, the wireless disappears
[20:32] <Guest11330> ActionParsnip , i want to try this because using an usb stick with ubuntu 12.04 makes my computer freeze at boot. i cant even enter bios. what do you think?
[20:32] <jhalfrezi> from the network manager
[20:32] <jhalfrezi> and if it is connected, it disconnects itself
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Jaker555: you have it via sudo and gksudo
[20:33] <tion> i was being ironic/sarcastic
[20:33] <jhalfrezi> and if I happen to modify the wireles config an choose to save for all users, it goes on step ahead and deletes _all_ configurations
[20:33] <jhalfrezi> which is quite like the intended purpose, inversely speaking
[20:33] <Haematoma> ActionParsnip: For dealing with USB HDDs, is there an advantage of using UUID over serial no. to identify a particular drive.
[20:33] <tion> machine code isnt human readable
[20:33] <Haematoma> ?*
[20:33] <bekks> Haematoma: Sure.
[20:33] <bekks> tion: But UUID are human-readable.
[20:33] <tion> can i resize / once i upgrade FS to ext4?
[20:34] <Haematoma> bekks: what would that advantage be?
[20:34] <jaker555> ok ignore it guys.. i will try ti find out how to chown it
[20:34] <jaker555> in after few hours of serach
[20:34] <tion> just like code bars are human readable
[20:34] <bekks> Haematoma: Uniquely identifying your USB filesystem.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Jaker555 : its an extra word in a command.  Yet you have time to ask and wait for an answer in IRC
[20:34] <POVaddct> hehe
[20:34] <tion> can i resize / once i upgrade FS to ext4?
[20:34] <bekks> tion: Then stop argueing, and just do not use them.
[20:34] <jaker555> no probvlem guys
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Jaker555: not weird?
[20:34] <jaker555> you just stress us too much so we stick with linux
[20:34] <bekks> tion: And stop asking your question on and on again.
[20:35] <Haematoma> bekks: so uuid implicitly tells us the partition filesystem?
[20:35] <tion> ive got this question a timer till someone ansers
[20:35] <bekks> Haematoma: The UUID is stored in the filesystem header. It tells us: "This filesystem has the UUID xyz."
[20:36] <Haematoma> bekks: kk, that makes sense
[20:36] <bekks> tion: Then please dont mind setting you onto ignore until then.
[20:36] <tion> Haematoma, dont tell you anything other that an serial number
[20:36] <Guest11330> ActionParsnip , i want to try this because using an usb stick with ubuntu 12.04 makes my computer freeze at boot. i cant even enter bios. but i boot plop whithout the usb stick and connect it when at plop menu.what do you think?
[20:36] <POVaddct> tion: looks like ext4 can be resized online (in mounted state) if it is not the root filesystem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-to-resize-a-ext4-root-partition-at-runtime
[20:36] <slowz> tion, you can resize ext4 so long as its not mounted
[20:36] <bekks> Haematoma: A _unique_ number.
[20:36] <POVaddct> tion: i am not using ext4 so i don't know for sure
[20:37] <tion> slowz, so i can use eseus partition master to do it?
[20:37] <tion> from windows
[20:37] <mcclainreynolds> Hey guys
[20:37] <mcclainreynolds> Can I ask some questions about how to install an Ubuntu partition
[20:38] <mcclainreynolds> using a usb?
[20:38] <mcclainreynolds> I have the iso downloaded
[20:38] <mcclainreynolds> I'm on a mac
[20:38] <slowz> tion, i would use a live cd with gparted. i dont know anything about eseus
[20:38] <FloodBot1> mcclainreynolds: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <POVaddct> this is ubuntu support, we don't know about obscure windows tools
[20:38] <tion> my cdrom is broken
[20:39] <slowz> usb stick?
[20:39] <BroUnicorn> Yeah
[20:39] <jhalfrezi> does anyone know why when network-manager detects link eth0, it immediately disconnects the wireless?
[20:39] <BroUnicorn> I'm mcclain btw
[20:39] <tion> can i use my usb mp3 player to install gparted on?
[20:39] <jhalfrezi> any suggestions on how to keep both network would be great :)
[20:40] <tion> can i use my usb mp3 player to boot gparted from?
[20:40] <slowz>  /ignore tion
[20:40] <tion> what?
[20:40] <bekks> slowz: Already done :)
[20:40] <OerHeks> tion how did you install ubuntu in the fist place ? stop trolling please
[20:40] <POVaddct> !repeat | tion
[20:40] <Guest11330> ActionParsnip , never mind i ll have to try it anyway.
[20:41] <tion> i installed it from *.iso
[20:41] <tion> cdrom broke after instsalation
[20:42] <BroUnicorn> instsalation....lol
[20:42] <tion> ive upgraded all the way from intrepid
[20:42] <tion> cdrom isnt working anymore
[20:42] <tion> can i use my usb mp3 player to boot gparted from?
[20:42] <POVaddct> tion: do you know if the bios of the machine is able to boot off usb anyway?
[20:42] <tion> yes i know
[20:43] <tion> anymore questions?
[20:43] <POVaddct> tion: and you have no spare usb stick?
[20:43] <hillary> still unable to print ubuntu 12.04
[20:43] <tion> none other that my mp3 player
[20:43] <hillary> Page 1 (Scheduler not running?):
[20:43] <hillary> {'cups_connection_failure': False}
[20:43] <hillary> Page 2 (Choose printer):
[20:43] <hillary> {'cups_dests_available': [], 'cups_queue_listed': False}
[20:43] <hillary> Page 3 (Local or remote?):
[20:43] <FloodBot1> hillary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <hillary> {'printer_is_remote': False}
[20:43] <quarth> Krenair: /wc
[20:43] <POVaddct> tion: does the player appear as a normal usb mass storage device? (class 8)
[20:44] <hillary> Page 1 (Scheduler not running?):
[20:44] <tion> i think so but were do i check from (class8)?
[20:44] <hillary> {'cups_connection_failure': False}
[20:44] <feeshon> Anyone have experience with Samba4 DC and win7
[20:44] <POVaddct> tion: try cat /proc/partitions before and after plugging the player
[20:45] <POVaddct> tion: if there is an additional entry after plugging, its probably usb mass storage
[20:45] <tion> its using fat16
[20:45] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04 cannot detect hp printer 1010 laserjet or scanner hp 2400
[20:45] <tion> is that a problem?
[20:46] <Midec> Alright, I'm trying to do a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 64bit, i currently have ubuntu 12.10 32bit, im making my way through doing the fresh install(i want to erase everything and start over new)  and i get the error "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda"  every time.  I am a big noob when it comes to this, so help me like a child.  (if you could, pm me with the help because It's hard to filter through all this chat)
[20:46] <POVaddct> tion: i wasn't asking about the filesystem. fat16 has some size limits, on files and the filesystem itself.
[20:46] <bekks> Midec: You do not have to erase anything, you can just start a new install.
[20:47] <hillary> any help
[20:47] <tion> yes i know im thinkng about the usb installer trying to format it
[20:47] <ioria> Midec: when and where do you get the error ?
[20:47] <Midec> bekks:  every time i get 'input/output error during read on /dev/sda"
[20:47] <abyss42> how do i integrate cookie info in a curl request?
[20:47] <bekks> Midec: When doing what?
[20:47] <bekks> !details | Midec
[20:47] <Midec> ioria:  right after i click fresh install, or manually set up partitions, i have tried both
[20:47] <hillary> unable to print
[20:47] <tion> i dont want to brick the mp3
[20:48] <POVaddct> tion: don't format it
[20:48] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04 not detecting printer hp laserjet 1010
[20:48] <BroUnicorn> Question: I converted the ubuntu desktop iso file to an img file. OSX added .dmg to the file. How should I go about correcting this?
[20:49] <fidel_> BroUnicorn: hdiutil should be able to convert dmg to iso afaik
[20:49] <fidel_> its a osx cli tool
[20:49] <Midec> ubottu:  I did, i said i was using 12.10 32bit, and im trying to install 12.04 64bit, and i get the error "input/output error during read on /dev/sda"     it happens right after i manually set up the partitions, and when i just do erase disc and install ubuntu,
[20:50] <ioria> Midec: are you installing from usb ?
[20:50] <Midec> ioria: yes i am
[20:50] <Bino1710> @hillary - did you  ever have the printer working with any version of ubuntu?
[20:50] <BroUnicorn> fidel_: I just used that to convert the iso to an img… do I have to redo it?
[20:50] <bekks> BroUnicorn: Isnt Mac capable of dealing with iso files?
[20:50] <phunyguy> Why do I always have to tell Ubuntu to restart TWICE before it actually acknowledges a restart command?
[20:50] <bekks> BroUnicorn: No, you dont have to convert it again.
[20:50] <phunyguy> ALWAYS.
[20:50] <fidel_> BroUnicorn: then ignore my input - i might misinterpreted it
[20:50] <hillary> yes last week it was working with this 12.04 lts very well
[20:51] <slowz> Midec, ive had that error before. it was a disk going back. i know that not much help but that was my issue with the input/output error
[20:51] <BroUnicorn> bekks: I'm following the instructions on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx -it states that OSX may append .dmg, but it doesn't say whether this is an error or not
[20:51] <slowz> *disk going bad*
[20:51] <hillary> yesterday it stopped detecting even the scanner
[20:51] <Midec> slowz:  what did you do to fix it?
[20:51] <Bino1710> sound like you may have to reinstall the drivers
[20:51] <slowz> Midec, bought a new disk
[20:51] <ioria> Midec: maybe bad sectors
[20:51] <bekks> BroUnicorn: No, it is not an error.
[20:52] <Midec> slowz:  so how come i can normally use the laptop as it currently is?  i just get this error when im trying to do a fresh install.
[20:52] <BroUnicorn> bekks: So I should just carry on?
[20:52] <bekks> BroUnicorn: Yes.
[20:52] <Midec> slowz:  should i just reformat it while i am logged on normally, and then proceed?
[20:53] <slowz> Midec, i did cheat and give myself some time by partitioning only the last half of the disk. the bad area was only on the first part of the disk
[20:53] <bekks> Midec: You cannot format anything while being logged in.
[20:53] <tion> can i use tune2fs  using uuIDs?
[20:53] <ioria> Midec: did you download from official mirror ?
[20:53] <Midec> bekks:  i thought i could use gparted or something?
[20:53] <bekks> Midec: Just boot from the installation cd.
[20:54] <bekks> Midec: You cant use gparted from a running system.
[20:54] <hillary> what do i do
[20:54] <Midec> ioria: yes, i downloaded yesturday from the website
[20:54] <Midec> bekks:  so should i just throw gparted on a usb and boot it, then try?
[20:54] <bekks> Midec: Yes.
[20:55] <Midec> bekks:  alright i'll try that, i guess if that doesn't work, ill have to go out n' buy a new hard drive :/
[20:55] <bekks> Midec: No.
[20:55] <ioria> Midec: try before the alternate
[20:55] <bekks> Midec: If that "doesnt work", you have to deactivate swap, and try again.
[20:56] <tion> uuids are spam
[20:56] <Midec> bekks:  so when i am setting up partitions don't include a swap?
[20:57] <bekks> Midec: Thats not what I said. An existing swap partition is maybe used by a livecd. So you have to deactivate it before being able to perform actions with gparted.
[20:57] <tion> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[20:57] <tion> #
[20:57] <tion> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[20:57] <tion> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:57] <tion> # /dev/sda7
[20:57] <FloodBot1> tion: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <Midec> bekks: okay, i'll pretend i understand that :/  (been using ubuntu for about 3 years now, but i basically use it like windows)
[20:59] <tion> is it possible to enable mouse in nano?
[20:59] <quesada> could anyone tell me the equiv. ubuntu packages to this list; http://opentoolsandspace.org/en/workflow-downloads
[20:59] <tion> like if i click exit it works?
[21:00] <coolboy13> can anybody help a 13 yr old boy with my homework pls about operating systgems
[21:00] <miroesq> i installed a program using a script which i ran as sudo. now when i try and access the location using normal cd....., i get permission denied. if i use sudo cd...... i get cd command not found.
[21:00] <coolboy13> what are the advantages of unix like operating systems over windows
[21:00] <ioria> Midec: did you try "try ubuntu" instead of install ?
[21:01] <miroesq> i installed a program using a script which i ran as sudo. now when i try and access the location using normal cd....., i get permission denied. if i use sudo cd...... i get cd command not found.
[21:01] <qr> coolboy13: you get to hang out with people with big beards
[21:01] <coolboy13> lol
[21:01] <tion> can i use e17 from bodhin linux?
[21:02] <tion> not to meantion neck beards
[21:02] <quesada> they are from opensuse. Is there a package name translator somewhere? :)
[21:02] <vekexasia> hello i've /j
[21:02] <coolboy13> what is a neck beard
[21:02] <BroUnicorn> Okay
[21:02] <qr> exactly what it sounds like
[21:03] <ioria> :P
[21:03] <BroUnicorn> So I don't want a bootable usb disk. I want to create a bootcamp partition of Ubuntu. I have the .dmg file… do I just use disk utility from this point?
[21:03] <BroUnicorn> usb*
[21:03] <nick__> Anybody here using Deluge?
[21:04] <Bare7a> Hello
[21:05] <mrmycorn> hello... does anyone know how to rip a CD using Lubuntu !@.1?
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> nick__  yes
[21:06] <mrmycorn> 12.1
[21:06] <nick__> MonkeyDust: I have quite a problem with it, I have set another download location but everytime I restart Deluge it's back to the defualt. I have read it's a bug within GTK?
[21:07] <Ronalds_M> hello
[21:07] <Ronalds_M> I lost chromium tabs after update
[21:07] <Ronalds_M> no tabs showing by default
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> nick__  it's odd, the location stays as i changed it - did you click 'apply'? - there's also 'move completed to'
[21:11] <milton> hello...
[21:11] <milton> anyone help me with a flash problem?
[21:11] <nick__> MonkeyDust: Yep, I clicked apply. When I exit Deluge and starts it up again, it's back to defualt.
[21:11] <Ronalds_M> I lost chromium tabs after update, is it design flaw or something?
[21:12] <nick__> MonkeyDust: But from what I can see, it should help to downgrade GTK+ to 2.24.10
[21:12] <ilikepandas> software center was released in summer of 2011 correct?
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> nick__  don't downgrade, you'l ruin your system - delete ~/.config/deluge   then restart deluge and change the location
[21:14] <BroUnicorn> so I got to step 8 on this
[21:15] <BroUnicorn> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx. I typed the code. It asked for my password for sudo. I entered it but nothing happened....
[21:15] <dr_willis> ilikepandas:  its been out for like 2-3 releases now.. so close to that.
[21:15] <Peyam> hej
[21:16] <BroUnicorn> So I pressed control-c to exit out. Then a bunch of things pop up. "324+0 records in" "323+0 records out" "338690048 bytes transferred in 64.578664 secs"
[21:16] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  the Pendrivelinux site may have some links for tools on OX_S to make a bootable flash from an ISO
[21:16] <Peyam> Im trying to run some android shit. I get this error massage.
[21:16] <alusion> I want to remove a bunch of files with nearly the same name [out-1.ogv out-2.ogv] how can I make this process easier?
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Peyam  language
[21:16] <Peyam> [2013-01-15 22:06:02 - ThenewBoston] /home/peyam/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/aapt: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:16] <BroUnicorn> Does this mean that the command worked or exited when I pressed ctrl c?
[21:16] <nick__> MonkeyDust: Hmm, I can't figure out how to delete it using terminal
[21:16] <bekks> BroUnicorn: ctrl+c broke it up, it wasnt finished yet.
[21:16] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  sounds like it wasent done with the dd copying... it was copying  and thats why 'nothing heppened' it was working
[21:17] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: I see. Is there a way to undo my mistake?
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> nick__  rm ~/.config/Deluge
[21:17] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  rerun the commands
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> nick__  rm -r ~/.config/Deluge
[21:18] <nick__> MonkeyDust: Didn't fix it, hmm :(
[21:18] <nick__> MonkeyDust: Is there any other torrent clients worth using?
[21:18] <ilikepandas_> but its not clear when software center first released, since ubuntu used synaptics package manager which is kind of similar to install software.
[21:18] <dr_willis> dozens of torrent clients out there.
[21:18] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: Thanks! I reran the command. I entered my password (I believe, although I can't see anything being typed). Now it's just sitting there.. so we'll see if it corrects it.
[21:19] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  it dose not echo your password.. that would be rather insecure if you think about it...
[21:19] <ilikepandas_> why am i getting ping timeout
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> nick__  transmission is the most common
[21:19] <nick__> MonkeyDust: I fixed it!
[21:19] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: That's definitely true. I'm just wondering whether it's working or not since it didn't pop up any type of message..
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> nick__  how did you do it?
[21:20] <ilikepandas_> nick__: utorrent is master.
[21:20] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  dd command dosent give any feedback by default.  Theres ways to moniotors its progress.
[21:20] <nick__> MonkeyDust:I found this: "From the user perspective, I found out that the following allows me to use the directory I choose: select "Other", choose a directory, then switch to "File System" in the drop-down and switch back to the chosen directory again." and it seems to work!
[21:20] <dr_willis> utorrent does exist for linux.
[21:20] <Peyam> [2013-01-15 22:06:02 - ThenewBoston] /home/peyam/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/aapt: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:20] <xangua> there is utorrent server dr_willis
[21:21] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: Okay, that's good to know. I believe it finished now, however a box popped up that says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer."
[21:21] <tomrt> hi, all !
[21:21] <BroUnicorn> (Initialize… ; ignore ; Eject) << Those are the three options provided.
[21:21] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  if its done.. time to test it out
[21:22] <tomrt> I'm new to ubuntu, I try it since one week
[21:22] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: I guess that was just it's way of telling me that there was now an operating system on my flash drive. :P
[21:22] <mbeierl> Ok - How do I share printers in ubuntu now?  I have the check box on the server checked - share printers with other systems.  On the client I have the option show printers shared by other systems checked.  Yet... nothing.  This used to work in 10.04
[21:22] <mbeierl> at 12.04 now
[21:22] <BroUnicorn> I'm going to test it out now.
[21:23] <tomrt> on ubuntu 12.10, it seem lightdm is freezing sometimes
[21:24] <tomrt> juste after login, impossible to move windows
[21:24] <blami> tomrt: or it crashes completely, 50% of my boots end up in console
[21:25] <blami> tomrt: by the chance do you have intel gpu?
[21:25] <ilikepandas_> ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 has major changes in that unity is no more. And graphics changed too
[21:25] <tomrt> no crash, just freeze, the only way to resolve the problem is to restart lightdm
[21:25] <tomrt> with "sudo restart lightdm"
[21:26] <KI4RO> mbeierl, Did you share them in CUPS?
[21:26] <orbitwhite> someone please kill me, i'm missing for classic interface i got used to =)
[21:26] <blami> ilikepandas_: I blame intel driver rather than xorg or unity
[21:26] <tomrt> I'm on an intel Core i7, is this a usual problem ?
[21:27] <blami> ilikepandas_: I had to disable intel_iommu and txt extension completely
[21:27] <tomrt> blami : I'm on an intel Core i7, is this a usual problem ?
[21:27] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: Well, it definitely didn't work. I believe I messed up the usb when I used ctrl-c, as now it tells me the disk is unreadable every time I plug it in.
[21:27] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: How do I go about cleaning it off?
[21:28] <BroUnicorn> dr_willis: OR could this also be due to having a file that is Ubuntu.img.dmg?
[21:28] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  No idea.  I dont use OSX.  i would think the tool would look for the right file name
[21:29] <mbeierl> KI4RO: Share them on the server or do something on the client?  I haven't changed the server
[21:30] <mbeierl> KI4RO: the check box on the server says to share printers, and the printer itself has a check box saying share this printer
[21:30] <dcope> anyone using SnapRAID?
[21:31] <mbeierl> KI4RO: Basically, following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[21:31] <BroUnicorn> Does anyone know how I can completely clean a usb to factory?
[21:31] <mbeierl> BroUnicorn: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX where X is the if of the usb once mounted?
[21:32] <BroUnicorn> the if?
[21:32] <usr13> BroUnicorn: The device name
[21:32] <hilo> good afternoon Ubuntu
[21:32] <mbeierl> BroUnicorn: if = the input source.  in this case a pseudo device that emits all zeros
[21:33] <usr13> mbeierl: Just a reformat would do, wouldn't it?
[21:33] <dr_willis> BroUnicorn:  is on OX-S so i dont know the right dev names.  on it
[21:33] <BroUnicorn> Then I totally messed up as I actually typed "if=" when running the dd command originally to put it on my usb
[21:33] <t4b__> BroUnicorn, think of "if" as input file, I think that's what it means and it makes sense :-)
[21:33] <BroUnicorn> lol
[21:34] <mbeierl> usr13: yes, but that is typically a quick format.  If one wants all the data erased so that it is filled with zeros and not recoverable....
[21:34] <hilo> I have a server running ubuntu 10.04. The swapiness is set to 1. The machine is still swapping. Currently, there is over half the physical ram completely unused, but the system swapped almost a gig. What's going on here???
[21:34] <usr13> mbeierl: Ok. Fair enough...
[21:34] <mbeierl> !ram
[21:35] <feeshon> hilo: Can you figure out what is utilizing the swap?
[21:35] <usr13> hilo: How's it running?
[21:35] <blkadder> free
[21:36] <koumi> hi
[21:36] <hilo> usr13, Fine, just not sure why it is swapping.
[21:36] <tomrt> blami : thanks for your help, finally found out many other having the same problem on a Intel i7 on Ivy bridge and ubuntu 12.10
[21:36] <tomrt> I'll try 12.04
[21:36] <hilo> feeshon, not sure how
[21:37] <BroUnicorn> mbeierl: I'm attempting to restore it to how it was before I attempted to put Ubuntu on it so that I can try to put ubuntu on it again
[21:37] <blami> tomrt: I am on i5 Ivy Bridge as well
[21:37] <feeshon>  http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ is a str8 and to the point
[21:39] <BroUnicorn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/239817/usb-becomes-unreadable-after-putting-the-img-on-it-mac Exact same issue I'm having
[21:39] <usr13> hilo: Did you read http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html ?
[21:39] <tomrt> blami : OK, so the HD4000 with 12.10 seems to be the cause
[21:41] <hilo> http://picpaste.com/5fa4d5a2ba04bd133974df7d4aa2bf44.png
[21:42] <hilo> usr13, I get what the cache is doing, but I have 16 gigs. only about 5 are used and the grand majority are free; yet my system is still swapping
[21:44] <deitarion> Can anyone recommend a tool for blinking my Scroll Lock LED to indicate something like new mail? Ubuntu no longer provides packages for "blinkd" or "ledcontrol", I'm not sure if they ever provided "mailleds", and I don't want to waste CPU with constant fork()ing by using (while true; do xset led named "Scroll Lock"; sleep 0.4; xset -led named "Scroll Lock"; sleep 0.4; done)
[21:44] <tomrt> blami : maybe one solution -> edit /etc/init/lightdm.conf and copy "sleep 2" just before "exec lightdm"
[21:46] <koumi> hey some times when I suspend Ubuntu it crashes and the image stays still  does it happen also to you guys
[21:47] <kmicu> Anyone have patch for current compiz grid behavior described here https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-plugins-main/+bug/878820
[21:47] <BroUnicorn> Would someone mind walking me through the steps of making my usb a boot drive?
[21:47] <BroUnicorn> I managed to clean it off
[21:47] <kmicu> Or maybe some windows manager where I can divide windows by 2/3 and 1/3 ;]?
[21:47] <orudie> I remember a long time ago a rotating cube for ubuntu was called compiz-fusion or something like that. is that still around ?
[21:48] <usr13> BroUnicorn: So you want to install Ubuntu on a USB flash drive.  Right?
[21:48] <thec4ke> compiz doesnt work with unity
[21:48] <BroUnicorn> usr13: Yes. This is correct.
[21:48] <BroUnicorn> usr13: :D
[21:48] <orudie> I really do not like unity
[21:48] <deitarion> thec4ke: Really? Did 12.10 replace Compiz with something else? I know 12.04 uses Compiz to provide the compositing for Unity.
[21:48] <ero-jiji> is it possible to share a folder in my /home folder with another user? say my user account is "desktop" and i want to share /home/ftp with user account "test"
[21:48] <orudie> is there a way to completely turn off unity, and what are the drawbacks of turning it off ?
[21:49] <thec4ke> orudie: give mint a try
[21:49] <thec4ke> its basically ubuntu with a normal desktop
[21:49] <deitarion> orudie: You don't need Mint to use Compiz.
[21:49] <orudie> what is mint ?
[21:49] <designbybeck____> CTRL + ALT + L to lock the screen... is there another keystroke or is there another one?
[21:49] <designbybeck____> or another way?
[21:49] <usr13> BroUnicorn: It's the same process, you just choose the USB drive as target.
[21:50] <deitarion> orudie: It's another Linux distro (based on Ubuntu) which, apparently, is so primitive that you have to reinstall to upgrade to each new release.
[21:50] <BroUnicorn> usr13: I'm not sure what you mean..
[21:50] <kmicu> thec4ke: deitarion I have compiz with unity @ 12.10 with retarded grid plugin...
[21:50] <BroUnicorn> usr13: I should follow the same instructions I was following?
[21:50] <BroUnicorn> usr13: I don't know what to do differently.
[21:50] <thec4ke> www.linuxmint.com/
[21:50] <usr13> BroUnicorn: And in the end you tell it to write grub to the USB drive.
[21:50] <orudie> why do I need mint ?
[21:50] <orudie> Can't I just disable unity ?
[21:50] <deitarion> kmicu: In other words, Compiz works with Unity... just not necessarily every Compiz plugin.
[21:50] <BroUnicorn> usr13: To write "grub"?
[21:50] <deitarion> orudie: Of course. What desktop do you want?
[21:50] <thec4ke> if you just want compiz lubuntu and xubuntu support it iirc
[21:51] <usr13> BroUnicorn: Yes, grub.  (grub is the boot loader).
[21:51] <orbitwhite> i run mate on 12.10
[21:51] <kmicu> deitarion: grid works, but devs are hibernated https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-plugins-main/+bug/878820
[21:51] <BroUnicorn> usr13: Okay. How would I go about doing that?
[21:51] <thec4ke> pretty sure anything besides mutter will break anything gnome 3 based
[21:51] <BroUnicorn> usr13: All I know how to do is follow the directions ubuntu provides.
[21:51] <thec4ke> ie unity
[21:51] <deitarion> orudie: My brother ditched Unity simply by running `sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop` and then picking Lubuntu at the login screen.
[21:51] <orudie> damn. I am really not familiar with using linux desktop. So i am not even familiar with what is lubuntu or xubuntu
[21:52] <ero-jiji> is it possible to share a folder in my /home folder with another user? say my user account is "desktop" and i want to share /home/ftp with user account "test"
[21:52] <thec4ke> its ubuntu with a different desktop environment
[21:52] <deitarion> orudie: Ok, why don't I give you a quick intro to it, then.
[21:52] <usr13> BroUnicorn: I'm not sure what else to tell you. If you have a specific question, ask and I'll do my best to answer.
[21:52] <thec4ke> xubuntu = xfce desktop, lubuntu = lxde desktop
[21:52] <thec4ke> i personally prefer lxde, others will like xfce
[21:52] <thec4ke> theres tons of desktop environments in linux, you can choose whichever suits you best
[21:52] <deitarion> orudie: Basically, on Linux, everything is built from bits and pieces you can mix-and-match. "Lubuntu" and "Xubuntu" are Ubuntu with a different set of bits and pieces installed by default.
[21:53] <BroUnicorn> usr13: In step 8 on page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx I'm unsure what to put in place of the if and of
[21:53] <kmicu> Really? Everyone here manage them windows placement with mouse? x]
[21:53] <usr13> BroUnicorn: Oh, I don't know any thing about a mac.  Sorry.
[21:53] <deitarion> kmicu: One sec while I find what you're responding to before I reply.
[21:53] <orudie> so whats ubuntu 12.04 installed with by default ?
[21:53] <BroUnicorn> usr13: Okay haha. thanks anyhow
[21:53] <thec4ke> orudie: unity
[21:54] <thec4ke> thats what you have now :p
[21:54] <usr13> BroUnicorn: You'll have to ask someone that is experiended with mac
[21:54] <orudie> ok I've heard of unity
[21:54] <orudie> what is gnome ?
[21:54] <orudie> and what is X?
[21:54] <thec4ke> gnome is what unity is based off o
[21:54] <BroUnicorn> Can anyone here help me make a usb boot loader from a mac?
[21:54] <thec4ke> basically its ubuntu's extensions to gnome 3
[21:54] <deitarion> kmicu: I think I might have the perfect solution for you.
[21:54] <BroUnicorn> *bootable usb
[21:54] <usr13> orudie: gnome is a Desktop Environment
[21:54] <usr13> orudie: X is the X-server (GUI engine)
[21:54] <thec4ke> X is a basic set of tools for creating and running desktop environments
[21:55] <deitarion> kmicu: I wrote a little tool called QuickTile which gives tiling keybindings which cycle through different widths and use, by default, a grid with three columns and two rows.
[21:55] <thec4ke> basically all desktop environments in linux run over X
[21:55] <orudie> so if I type "startx" I am starting what? gnome ?
[21:55] <thec4ke> youre running whatever your system is set to run by default
[21:55] <deitarion> orudie: "startx" means "Start a GUI". What it launches depends on how your system is set up.
[21:55] <thec4ke> ubuntu runs a display manager
[21:55] <thec4ke> then runs unity
[21:55] <kmicu> deitarion: real keyboard driven windows manager! ;] please share
[21:55] <thec4ke> the display manager just deals with logging in and out
[21:56] <usr13> orudie: X  is a network transparent window system
[21:56] <deitarion> kmicu: It's actually an addon for existing WMs. If you want a full replacement window manager, then look into AwesomeWM, Bluetile, or Xmonad.
[21:56] <deitarion> kmicu: http://ssokolow.com/quicktile/
[21:56] <thec4ke> basically if you want unity to go away you need to install a different desktop environment
[21:56] <thec4ke> lxde and xfce are good options for ubuntu
[21:57] <deitarion> kmicu: Using QuickTile, you'd just turn off the tiling plugin or unbind its keys and let QuickTile handle the keybindings.
[21:57] <kmicu> deitarion: no whole window manager, but placement manager
[21:57] <thec4ke> mint offers mate and cinnamon which are imo the best two DEs atm, which is why i recommended mint
[21:57] <thec4ke> i think you can get packages for them for ubuntu but they arent officially supported
[21:57] <kmicu> "for people who don't want to use the Compiz Grid plugin"
[21:57] <deitarion> kmicu: So QuickTile will probably do what you want then. It just handles moving and resizing windows in response to keybindings, leaving your regular WM in place.
[21:57] <kmicu> I love it
[21:58] <kmicu> deitarion: THX
[21:58] <deitarion> kmicu: No problem. The docs aren't Ubuntu-specific, so let me tell you exactly what to apt-get.
[21:59] <orudie> so there is gnome3 (unity), and compiz is what /
[21:59] <orudie> ?
[21:59] <BroUnicorn> I don't know what to put in for my if and of when attempting this sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/rdiskN bs=1m
[21:59] <kmicu> "Just unpack and run. No installation necessary." ;)
[21:59] <BroUnicorn> I'm trying to make a bootable usb
[21:59] <deitarion> kmicu: You still need the libraries it depends on, though.
[21:59] <kmicu> all deps ok
[22:00] <usr13> orudie: startx will initialize an X session.  The startx script that starts the X Window System.
[22:00] <voltagex> how can I get verbose log output from modem-manager?
[22:00] <BroUnicorn> What do I put in place of the if and of? I'm on a mac. I'd really appreciate some help
[22:00] <thec4ke> compiz is a "window manager"
[22:00] <thec4ke> its what draws the windows
[22:00] <thec4ke> decides what they look like and how they behave
[22:01] <thec4ke> combining the window manager with the desktop programs (start menu, task bar, etc) make the desktop environment
[22:01] <thec4ke> for instance gnome/unity uses "mutter" as a wm
[22:01] <thec4ke> that with the programs on the desktop, ie the "launcher" make the DE
[22:02] <deitarion> kmicu: Just in case, QuickTile will start without python-xlib or dbus-python, it'll just be missing features.
[22:02] <thec4ke> in the past and still in some DEs you could change the WM in DE to something else entirely
[22:02] <thec4ke> like in gnome2, the default wm was metacity
[22:02] <thec4ke> and you could change it to compiz if you wanted all the effect
[22:02] <kmicu> deitarion: I read "Usage" but what is binding for tile left 2/3 :)
[22:02] <thec4ke> with gnome3 using any other wm besides mutter will probably break it
[22:02] <kmicu> 1 to 9 is regions, but what is whole left/right side?
[22:03] <deitarion> kmicu: Pressing a binding repeatedly cycles through different proportions.
[22:03] <thec4ke> xfce, lxde, and mate will probably let you use whatever wm you want
[22:03] <kmicu> deitarion: but only in region?
[22:03] <kmicu> and we have 9 regions
[22:03] <slowwritespeed> Is it possible to install ubuntu to USB? not liveUSB.. or boot drive.. but like as both where ubuntu is installed and my primary means of storage (yes, I know it'll be slow)
[22:03] <deitarion> kmicu: I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "only in region"... and could we go to PMs to avoid cluttering the channel?
[22:03] <kmicu> I want whole 1,2,3 :)
[22:04] <slowwritespeed> and if so .. how?
[22:04] <usr13> slowwritespeed: Yes
[22:04] <usr13> slowwritespeed: Same process, just that you choose the USB device as target.
[22:04] <OerHeks> slowwritespeed, just choose your usb device as target to install, it must be 5 Gb +
[22:04] <thec4ke> slowwritespeed: look up "persistent storage" in regards to pen drive linux
[22:04] <deitarion> kmicu: Could we go to PM before I ask for clarification?
[22:05] <slowwritespeed> I've a 32GB SD card.
[22:05] <usr13> slowwritespeed: And in the end, tell it to write the grub boot loader to the USB device
[22:05] <fetzbeast> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZrBRQn6K0A
[22:06] <deitarion> slowwritespeed: The main question is whether your motherboard knows how to boot off an SD card. If it does, just install onto the SD card as if it were a regular hard drive. IF not, you have to install the OS to the SD card and GRUB to something the motherboard DOES know how to boot off of.
[22:06] <Caz> Hi there
[22:06] <usr13> deitarion: Good point.
[22:07] <deitarion> slowwritespeed: Just make sure you DON'T create a swap partition or you'll wear out your SD card REALLY fast.
[22:10] <BroUnicorn> SO I did everything exactly like it said on here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx. However upon step 8 completing a text box pops up that says the disk I inserted is unreadable by the computer.
[22:11] <Eivind> Is there a guide online to show you how to change themes in irssi?
[22:12] <BroUnicorn> ....
[22:12] <BroUnicorn> So no one can help me lol
[22:12] <trijntje> !patience | BroUnicorn
[22:12] <Caz> I'm getting an issue while configuring "separate-x-screen" with the lastest nvidia drivers 310.smth with two graphic cards. Before I did an update (kernel update) it worked well but now, when configuring it with xinerama, unity doesn't show up anymore
[22:13] <BroUnicorn> I have patience. I apologize.. I've just been asking for over an hour haha
[22:13] <bjoern_> sounds like not enough patience then :D
[22:14] <BroUnicorn> ^.^
[22:15] <fearphage> when i'm listening to youtube videos or streaming audio with my USB headphones, randomly audio out stops and the video/media also. If I unplug them from the sub hub and plug them back in, everything picks back up. any idea why this would happen?
[22:15] <nisio> this happened to me today no idea how it happend though
[22:16] <danme> Hello i have just bought a new modem/ap and ubuntu wont reach the internet (windows 8 on the same laptop CAN). how cn i solv this issue?
[22:16] <danme> *how can
[22:16] <danme> *solve
[22:16] <usr13> BroUnicorn: It all depends on the capabilities of the mac, (particularly if it will boot to a USB device or not).  If it will, it's as I said.
[22:17] <BroUnicorn> It will.
[22:17] <BroUnicorn> I'm about to switch to my windows partition just so I can get some help lol
[22:17] <usr13> danme: Does the modem/ap have a DHCP server running on it?
[22:17] <nisio> danme:connect using an ethernet cable see what happens
[22:18] <usr13> danme: Yea, is is WiFi or Wired?
[22:18] <BroUnicorn> usr13: The issue I'm having is putting the bootable file on the usb. Every time I try it makes the usb unreadable
[22:19] <usr13> BroUnicorn: unreadable?
[22:19] <danme> usr13: it is wifi
[22:19] <usr13> danme: Are you seeing the essid?
[22:19] <danme> usr13: yes i has dhcp
[22:19] <danme> yes i see essid of course
[22:19] <nisio> wep or wpa
[22:19] <danme> wpa
[22:20] <BroUnicorn> usr13: Yeah. I plug in the usb and it pops up a warning box that says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer." alongside the options "Initialize, Ignore, Eject"
[22:20] <danme> IT CONNECTS TO WIFI BUT WONT REACH INTERNET
[22:20] <usr13> danme: Have you entered the wpa passphrase?
[22:20] <BroUnicorn> This happens directly after executing the dd command
[22:20] <nisio> have u tried updating the wifi drivers for ubuntu
[22:20] <usr13> danme: ifconfig  #See what IP you have.
[22:20] <danme> usr13: it is connecting to the wifi but wont reach the Net
[22:20] <usr13> danme: Tell us....
[22:21] <usr13> danme: inet addr: ______________?
[22:21] <danme> this happened since when i have changed the wifi router. but windows CAN connect so i wonder whats wrong.....
[22:21] <usr13> danme: .... for the wireless device.  (Maybe wlan0?)
[22:21] <danme> *CAN reach the internet
[22:22] <usr13> danme: Are you getting an IP?  If so, what IP do you get?
[22:22] <F3Speech> danme: have u tried rebooting your router?
[22:22] <nisio> this happened to me but the oppisite way round , and when I updated my drivers it worked
[22:22] <danme> usr13, i will come back immediately, i need to use another laptop because i have to restart this laptop to check ubuntu
[22:22] <danme> F3Speech: yes
[22:23] <usr13> danme: ifconfig    #In a terminal window will tell you the IP info you have now.
[22:23] <danme> NOT EVEN FEDORA CAN CONNECT
[22:23] <danme> ALL LINUXES SEEMS..
[22:24] <usr13> danme: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #In a terminal will tell you what nameserver you have.  (Should be same as router, probably.  If not see if it a valid nameserver.  You can change to another if it's not working, like  8.8.8.8)
[22:24] <BluesKaj> no need for capitals
[22:24] <nisio> same laptop?
[22:25] <Hexch> danme: try ping 8.8.8.8 if you get positive response then its your dns
[22:25] <Eivind> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/kurja-round.theme
[22:25] <danme> different laptops as wel
[22:25] <danme> *well
[22:25] <danme> ok
[22:25] <danme> wait
[22:25] <danme> thanks
[22:25] <Hexch> as usr13 mention then change it under /etc/resol.conf
[22:25] <usr13> danme: See that the IP you get is in the subnet that the router uses.  For instance, if the router is 192.168.1.1  you should be getting an IP of 192.168.1.xxx  (where xxx is a number between 2 and 254)
[22:26] <nisio> did it work?
[22:26] <usr13> danme: See if you can ping the router.  ping -c3 192.168.1.1
[22:26] <danme> ok. sorry people just wait i preparing the laptops
[22:26] <danme> *im
[22:27] <usr13> danme: See if you can resolve domain name:  host av.com   #If you can not resolve domain name, look at /etc/resolv.conf for [valid] nameserver
[22:27] <mtu> hiyas. i have a strange problem regarding acpi. something that's _not_ acpid is catching a button event and doing something it shouldn't. if i stop acpid and press the wireless button, it still turns off the wireless, but it shouldn't.
[22:28] <danme> but why this is happening only with linux? (fedora and ubuntu) Windows works good on both laptops (windows 7 and 8)
[22:28] <usr13> danme: We don't know.
[22:28] <Hexch> danme: the real question what you did under installation.
[22:28] <nisio> have you got a password set up for your router
[22:28] <danme> i just installed as normal of course
[22:28] <mtu> any idea what service/daemon could be catching the wireless button acpi event and doing stuff, that's _not_ acpid?
[22:29] <Hexch> danme: can you try what usr13 were pointing out?
[22:29] <danme> yes i will try now
[22:29] <Hexch> gr8
[22:30] <usr13> danme: It is more than likely a nameserver issue.  It is possible that the new modem/ap is giving out bogus IP info.  If that is the case, you should be able edit the modem/ap's configs and change it so that it uses proper nameserver.
[22:30] <danme> need to installed mirc on other laptop first :)
[22:30] <danme> thx :)
[22:30] <hje841> will this result in a new compiler named g++-4.7 along side g++ (version 4.6.3) ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/76885/where-can-i-find-a-g-4-7-package
[22:30] <usr13> danme: mirc?
[22:30] <danme> usr13: but why "bogus"? windows can work with it
[22:31] <danme> usr13: mirc yes. to connect here on irc
[22:31] <danme> i nned to use windows bcos linux wont work
[22:31] <danme> as im saying..
[22:31] <danme> *i need
[22:31] <nisio> drivers. possibly
[22:31] <Hexch> danme: I've seen 100 ubuntu laptop and dosen of windows connecting to an campus wlan, but apple shity devices couldnt
[22:32] <orbitwhite> mtu, so u press hotkey for wireless and it goes on and off?
[22:32] <usr13> danme: Windows may be ignoring the nameserver info.  I don't know. If you tell us what IP information the Windows PC's use and we comapre it to the IP information your Linux PC's use, we could see what the difference is.  Then we could decide if the modem/ap's configuration needs to be fixed or not.
[22:32] <danme> Hexch: well for me is the contrary
[22:32] <Hexch> so you need to focus on your problems insted of symptoms
[22:32] <danme> ok justv wait guys
[22:32] <danme> *just
[22:32] <danme> Hexch 'k
[22:32] <Hexch> :)
[22:32] <mtu> orbitwhite: yes, but acpid is not running. syslog doesn't show what's catching the keypress.
[22:33] <orbitwhite> mtu, anything on dmesg at all related to it pops up?
[22:33] <usr13> danme: You need three things. 1) An IP. 2) A gateway IP, (same as modem/ap).  3) A nameserver, (one that works).
[22:34] <danme> user13: ok wait dude, im almost done
[22:34] <orbitwhite> mtu, could u plz show us ur `rfkill list all` also
[22:34] <orbitwhite> lscpi and laptop model could help too also
[22:35] <wagle> i'm running 10.04 nautilus..  trying to connect to a sambda server..  if i click on the home dir, it autotries to login as the same username and fails..  how do i get it to let me enter username and password?
[22:36] <jhutchins> wagle: I think newer versions handle it better - 10.04 is pretty old.
[22:37] <jhutchins> wagle: We are I think five versions ahead of that now.
[22:37] <univyrse> how do I change to a different DE in 12.10? I can't find any settings and there's no option at the login screen
[22:37] <wagle> i like having a useful gui
[22:37] <usr13> wagle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50197/cannot-connect-to-samba-share-from-nautilus
[22:37] <jhutchins> univyrse: Do you know which dm you have?  There should be a menu if you have more than one desktop installed, but some of them are very subtle.
[22:38] <jhutchins> wagle: By which you mean to imply that at least one of the current GUIs is crap - with which I agree, but there are good ones available and forks galore.
[22:38] <univyrse> whatever 12.10 installs by default
[22:38] <slowwritespeed> ok.. sorry, quick question: how to format an empty SD card to ext4 in ubuntu?
[22:38] <slowwritespeed> it is fat right now
[22:38] <orbitwhite> wagle, from-under 12.10 i can say that mate de is a compromise for me, give it a try on vm, maybe it will allow u to upgrade =)
[22:39] <jhutchins> univyrse: That's probably gdm, which SHOULD have an option.  (I don't have a test box at hand atm).
[22:39] <stqn> Hi, is there a channel about publishing/developing for the ubuntu software center? And is “Ubuntu Application Development” ( http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=417 ) the appropriate forum? The Community page ( http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/get-help/community/ ) is desperately empty…
[22:39] <jhutchins> univyrse: What alternative desktop do you have?
[22:39] <univyrse> cinnamon
[22:39] <univyrse> installed from the ppa
[22:39] <usr13> slowwritespeed:  mkfs.ext4
[22:39] <jhutchins> univyrse: Have you restarted gdm since?
[22:39] <stqn> univyrse: you can for example sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:40] <univyrse> stqn, I'm not trying to install xubuntu
[22:40] <jhutchins> stqn: He's having trouble figuring out how to tell gdm to use a different desktop, and I don't have gdm at hand to tell him.
[22:40] <danme2> usr13: ok here i am. tell me what i need to do
[22:40] <univyrse> I have cinnamon installed, i just don't know how to switch into it from unity
[22:40] <jhutchins> Wait, I can do this...
[22:40] <wagle> jhutchins: its about time for me to try again..  especially since EoL for 10.04 is april or somesuch
[22:40] <usr13> danme2: iwconfig  #See if the essid is correct.
[22:40] <hje841> how do I install g++-4.7 in 12.04 along side the existing 4.6.3? without breaking anything
[22:40] <mtu> orbitwhite: rfkill list all looks like you'd expect on a thinkpad - tp_bluetooth_sw, tpacpi_wwan_sw and phy0 wireless. the key press i'm talking about changes phy0 soft block from no to yes
[22:41] <xangua> univyrse: in the login screen there is an icon next to your username, select it and you'll be able to select the session you want (and it will also set as the default)
[22:41] <danme2> usr13: yes it is correct, im already connected to wifi, ubuntu says.
[22:41] <danme2> just cant reach websites
[22:41] <mtu> orbitwhite: hard block is only active if i turn the hardware switch, obviously. let me check dmesg.
[22:41] <univyrse> there is no icon
[22:41] <wagle> its just that this is everything i want/need, and the new gui was a severe regression
[22:41] <stqn> univyrse: ah, I see… there’s an “ubuntu” icon on the page where you login after boot, click on it…
[22:41] <orbitwhite> mtu, seems like somewhat good start i hope
[22:41] <usr13> danme2: ifconfig   #See what IP you got.  inet addr: ______________?  Tell us...
[22:41] <univyrse> I've looked, I'll check again I suppose
[22:42] <univyrse> I'll report back in a sec
[22:42] <wagle> usr13: thanks,that looks promising
[22:42] <usr13> danme2: route -n    #Tell us the gateway IP  (Is it same as modem/ap?)
[22:42] <jhutchins> uni4dfx: On my gdm, to the right of my username is an icon which is my default desktop (xfce).  If I click on it, I get a list.
[22:42] <usr13> danme2: host av.com    #Does it resolve the hostname av.com?  Or not?
[22:43] <danme2> usr13, ifconfig says: ip 192.168.1.101 Bcast 192.168.1.255 Mask 255.255.255.0
[22:43] <univyrse> yeah, def no ubuntu icon, says my username and has a password prompt
[22:43] <usr13> danme2: route -n    #Tell us the gateway IP  (Is it same as modem/ap?)
[22:43] <danme2> wlan0
[22:43] <univyrse> it *should* be there but it's not
[22:44]  * jhutchins finds xangua's response in the scrollback - thanks.
[22:44] <usr13> danme2: (modem/ap is more than likely 192.168.1.1)
[22:45] <BroUnicorn> Okay
[22:45] <danme2> usr13: modem is apart from ap. ap gets recognized here as 192.168.1.1
[22:45] <mtu> orbitwhite: dmesg appears to be showing the same stuff as syslog. the only interesting things: "iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: L1 Disabled; Enabling L0S" and "e1000e 0000:00:19.0: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X". but that doesn't tell me anything about the acpi event.
[22:45] <jhutchins> I guess I'm actually in xubuntu, not xfce.
[22:45] <usr13> danme2: host av.com    #Does it resolve the hostname av.com?  Or not?
[22:45] <thec4ke> univyrse: what does ls /usr/share/xsessions say?
[22:45] <danme2> usr13: but i dont know whats the ip of modem
[22:45] <BroUnicorn> How do I install ubuntu using a cd-r
[22:45] <BroUnicorn> and bootcamp
[22:45] <danme2> usr13: no it does not host av.com
[22:45] <univyrse> gnome.desktop ubuntu.desktop
[22:45] <usr13> danme2: Can you ping the modem/ap?    ping -c3 192.168.1.1
[22:45] <jhutchins> uni4dfx: It should be there anyway so you can pick between "Ubuntu" (Unity?), gnome, gnome classic...
[22:46] <univyrse> does that mean cinnamon isnt installed correctly?
[22:46] <jhutchins> univyrse: Drat nick completion....
[22:46] <orbitwhite> mtu what is the laptop model and card?
[22:46] <univyrse> oh
[22:46] <thec4ke> univyrse: you probably need to manually add a session definition
[22:46] <orbitwhite> soz 4 being slow english is not my primary
[22:46] <danme2> usr13: yes i can ping the ap 192.168.1.1
[22:46] <jhutchins> univyrse: Try adding something light like lxde or xfce to see if it shows up.  Could be the ppd packages don't update gdm correctly.
[22:46] <usr13> danme2: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #What do you have as nameserver (IP Address).
[22:46] <jhutchins> univyrse: In which case, seek ye the ppd maintainers for an answer.
[22:47] <danme2> usr13: nameserver 127.0.0.1 (resolv.conf)
[22:47] <univyrse> yeah I'mma go complain to the cinnamon people and then figure out how to fix it myself
[22:47] <univyrse> thanks for the help, you guys are great
[22:47] <danme2> usr13: *127.0.1.1
[22:47] <usr13> danme2: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf  #Add line:  nameserver 8.8.8.8  (on a line by itself).
[22:47] <danme2> ok
[22:47] <mtu> orbitwhite: thinkpad X200s, lspci says "Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300". not that i have the tp_smapi module running.
[22:47] <usr13> danme2: or gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[22:48] <mtu> orbitwhite: i mean, note that i have it running. i installed it with dkms.
[22:48] <maslo> would removing grub and using syslinux bad on a 12.10 ubuntu laptop? 1/2 of the times it hangs on a purple screen after booting my laptop, I never see grub at all it just blinks for a little and sometimes I get to the login screen
[22:48] <usr13> danme2: Now try to ping av.com     ping -c3 av.com
[22:49] <orbitwhite> mtu, touched intel cards only once and uhm i didn't like it lol
[22:49] <danme2> usr13: i added 8.8.8.8 to resolv.conf but still cant ping av.com
[22:49] <usr13> danme2:   YOu put    "nameserver 8.8.8.8" on a line by itself (at the bottom of the file?)
[22:49] <danme2> ping: host unknown
[22:49] <stqn> maslo, do you have an external usb drive by any chance? I have to unplug mine to get to grub.
[22:50] <kelvinella> pussytorrents
[22:50] <usr13> danme2: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[22:50] <maslo> stqn: no nothing is plugged other than a mouse
[22:50] <danme2> usr13: ah shall i remove the other line?
[22:50] <danme2> ok
[22:50] <maslo> stqn: actually it does the same even withou tmy mouse
[22:50] <usr13> danme2: yes
[22:50] <jcamfield> Can anyone help me kick my synaptics touchpad into a functional state?  Dell Lat E6430; 12.10
[22:50] <jhutchins> danme2: Just comment it!
[22:50] <danme2> usr13: ok did it but still cant ping
[22:51] <usr13> danme2: ping -c3 8.8.8.8
[22:51] <jhutchins> usr13: Can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[22:51] <danme2> nope
[22:51] <danme2> host unreachable
[22:51] <jhutchins> There ya go, not DNS.
[22:51] <usr13> danme2: route -n   #Tell us what gateway you have.
[22:51] <danme2> ok
[22:51] <Miebster_> whats the apt-get equivelant of going to this url "http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/vmware-view-client"
[22:52] <usr13> danme2: What is the IP address under the word     "Gateway"
[22:52] <g-zus> I'm trying to share my wlan0's network with the local network via eth0/eth1. but somehow, everytime I plug in a cable on eth0, the wireless connection is disconnected (I presume, by network-manager)
[22:52] <ubuntu-tester1> danme2: try 208.67.222.222
[22:52] <g-zus> any idea how to solve this problem?
[22:52] <jhutchins> Miebster_: The vmware packages are distributed by vmware, unless you set up a local repository you need to use theirs.
[22:53] <danme2> usr13: i have three rows here. but the first word under "Gateway" is 192.168.1.1
[22:53] <usr13> danme2: What country are you in?  USA?
[22:53] <Miebster_> jhutchins: why does vmware website link to vmware-view-open-client
[22:53] <danme2> no italy
[22:53] <mladoux> Miebster_, apt-get install vmware-view-client
[22:53] <Miebster_> jhutchins: sorry wrong paste, vmwares website links to http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/vmware-view-client when you try to download it
[22:53] <ubuntu-tester1> g-zus: pastebin tail -50 /var/log/syslog righr after that
[22:53] <usr13> danme2: I see.  Ok. can you ping 208.67.222.222 ?
[22:53] <orbitwhite> mtu, i'm not sure yet if it needs some firmware to be loaded, but are you 100% sure that module doesn't show any signs of erorrous work while everything is ok on rfkill?
[22:53] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: nothing fancy going on in there, AFAICT
[22:53] <Miebster_> mladoux: unable to locate package
[22:53] <danme2> usr13: i will pastebin here route -n bcos there are lot of datas
[22:53] <usr13> (as suggested by ubuntu-tester1 )
[22:54] <jhutchins> Miebster_: S0rry, that wasn't actually an answer to your question.
[22:54] <usr13> danme2: No need.
[22:54] <mladoux> you may not have the repository enabled.
[22:54] <jhutchins> Miebster_: Multi-distro-dissonance, gimme a sec here...
[22:54] <mladoux> I'm not sure which repo it's in, so yeah
[22:54] <usr13> danme2: ping -c 208.67.222.222
[22:54] <danme2> no i cant ping 208.67.222.222
[22:54] <ubuntu-tester1> usr13: i suggest use for lookup, not ping
[22:54] <GuidoPallemans> What is a good desktop-screencap application to film? (like fraps)
[22:54] <n1cholas> Are there any filesystems similar to mhddfs, but without the huge loss of I/O-performance?
[22:54] <usr13> danme2: Waht nameserver does your ISP recommend?
[22:54] <mladoux> probably multiverse
[22:54] <Miebster_> This site links to a thing thats not found :( https://my.vmware.com/group/vmware/details?downloadGroup=VIEWCRT_LINUX_170&productId=266&rPId=3338
[22:54] <usr13> danme2: Or, look at your MS Windows config and see what it is using.
[22:55] <usr13> danme2: ipconfig /all
[22:55] <ubuntu-tester1> g-zus: nevertheless
[22:55] <GuidoPallemans> What is a good desktop-screencap application to film? (like fraps)
[22:55] <mtu> orbitwhite: i just unloaded the tp_smapi module and tried the key, still with acpid stopped. it still disables the wireless.
[22:55] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: this will disconnect me, so brb.
[22:55] <danme2> usr13: ok wait i reboot into windows 8 and try to check it
[22:55] <usr13> danme2: Wait...
[22:55] <GuidoPallemans> What is a good desktop-screencap application to film? (like fraps)
[22:55] <danme2> ok
[22:55] <mladoux> Miebster_, it's in the partner repository, just checked, make sure you have the partner repo enabled.
[22:56] <usr13> danme2: What is your ISP?
[22:56] <ubuntu-tester1> GuidoPallemans: try VLC
[22:56] <danme2> usr13: this looks so strange bcos windows can connect but ubuntu can't :/ not even fedora :/ so i dont think it has to do with the router... just with linux
[22:56] <danme2> usr13: Tiscali
[22:56] <orbitwhite> mtu, so talking in general, software or hw block switches to positive state?
[22:56] <danme2> usr13: tiscali italia
[22:57] <tudorel> help
[22:57] <Miebster_> mladoux: just tried that, still unable to find it
[22:57] <jhutchins> Miebster_: What mladoux said, then just aptitude install vmware-view-client
[22:58] <jhutchins> Miebster_: Did you update?
[22:58] <univyrse> I fixed that problem with cinnamon
[22:58] <danme2> usr13: wait i need to explain your better the configuration here of my network
[22:58] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: http://pastebin.com/LAtxWcjR
[22:58] <Miebster_> jhutchins: okay that was it thanks
[22:58] <malkauns> is there a way of removing the file menu bar in any application?
[22:58] <univyrse> this is a horrible fix, but I removed the package, kept the ppa, reinstalled the package, rebooted, and it works fine now
[22:58] <usr13> danme2: ping -c3  213.205.32.70   #Can you ping this one?
[22:59] <jhutchins> univyrse: cinnamon is available on gdm now?
[22:59] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: only relevant from line 11 onwards
[22:59] <danme2> usr13: i have the ISP's modem/router, which is connect to this new modem/router/ap... but the one to be the real gateway is the ISP's device... of which i dont know the lan ip here.. :-?
[22:59] <univyrse> jhutchins, yes
[22:59] <mladoux> Miebster_, make sure you apt-get update after enabling the repository before trying to install the package
[22:59] <danme2> usr13: no i cant ping it
[22:59] <univyrse> I have a feeling my issue was more of a user issue than anything else
[23:00] <danme2> usr13: i cant ping 213.205.32.70 either
[23:00] <mladoux> If you still can't install it, you may be on a release that doesn't have it yet. What version of ubuntu are you working with. I tested this on 12.10
[23:00] <mtu> orbitwhite: only the software block switches its state, and it does so every time i push the (soft) button, even with acpid off.
[23:01] <usr13> danme2: Sounds like we are using wrong gateway.  Maybe it is 192.168.1.254  or  I don't know.  I suppose you can boot to MS Windows and do:
[23:01] <Miebster_> mladoux: I got it now thanks!
[23:01] <ubuntu-tester1> g-zus: did you just plug in eth cable at line 12?
[23:01] <AndChat504> Anyone know if there is a solution fir atheros AR9485 wireless. Terrible signal and randomly times out.
[23:01] <usr13> danme2: ipconfig /all    #And write down all the IP info.  Gateway, DNS  etc...
[23:01] <mladoux> Miebster_, glad to help
[23:01] <danme2> usr13: i have the ISP's modem, which is only wired. so, i used to have an older ap before that was relaying for me as wifi. but now i have replaced the wifi ap with a wifi modem/router and wont work anything with linux :-/ only windows can make it work
[23:02] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: no, the line 11 is when the eth0 got plugged in and dhcp acquired the ip; the line 12 is when I unplugged the cable from eth0
[23:02] <orbitwhite> mtu, it is strange because according to google u're the only person with such problem, if i'm not missing something ofcourse
[23:02] <usr13> danme2: firefox 192.168.1.1
[23:02] <danme2> oh well, my android phone works as well
[23:02] <danme2> usr13 ok wait i try all what u said
[23:03] <orbitwhite> mtu, i can't be precise, but did u touch the driver, i mean did u set it up manually?
[23:03] <shelfries> hi could somebody walk me through partitioning my drive to install windows+
[23:03] <usr13> danme2: If you connect to wired, you may get proper IP info.  But ... well, you can just see what IP info MS Windows gets and duplicate that.
[23:03] <shelfries> ?
[23:03] <danme2> usr13: firefox 192.168.1.1 gives me the new ap login page
[23:03] <usr13> danme2: Login and see how it's configured.
[23:04] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: just to clarify even further line 11 refers actually to the wireless disconnection, it happens just after eth0 got plugged and dhclient received a dhcp offer
[23:04] <Miebster_> Unity strikes again.  I can't change VMWare View Client to non full screen because the unity tool bar covers up the window bar with maximize, restore, minimize, and there is no context options. Any ideas?
[23:04] <ubuntu-tester1> g-zus: strange. your eth socket state is somehow connected with the radio killswitch. maybe somw weird option in BIOS?
[23:04] <mtu> orbitwhite: well, it's probably not a common problem to want to stop the wireless soft button from switching the wireless on and off...
[23:04] <mladoux> I've seen that issue with some coffee shop wireless gateways, windows can access, linux can't. Not sure what causes it.
[23:05] <danme3> usr13: firefox 192.168.1.1 gives me ap's login page
[23:05] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: yes, that's what it seems :) I don't think there is any BIOS option that I haven't noticed, but I could well look again :)
[23:05] <usr13> danme3: I know.
[23:05] <orbitwhite> mtu, sorry for being useless lol but is it everything ok with button itself? loool
[23:05] <danme3> usr13: ok so what do i need to do?
[23:05] <mtu> orbitwhite: yeah, i'll look elsewhere. thanks anyway. see ya!
[23:05] <usr13> danme3: Login and see how it'
[23:05] <usr13> s set up
[23:06] <ubuntu-tester1> g-zus: also try googling '<model> radio killswitch'
[23:06] <xentity1x> My package system is broken. I tired disabling other software sources and running sudo apt-get install -f, but it didn't fix it. This is what I got http://pastebin.com/UVHCuWC6. Can anyone help?
[23:06] <usr13> danme3: ping -c3 192.168.1.254   #Can you ping that IP?
[23:06] <danme3> usr13: wait i will just pastebin here route -n and windows's ipconfig /all
[23:06] <usr13> danme3: Ok good
[23:07] <ubuntu-tester1> Miebster_: turn launcher auto-hide in sys. settings
[23:07] <danme3> usr13: no i cant ping that
[23:07] <usr13> pastebin windows ipconfig /all
[23:07] <danme3> ok
[23:07] <shelfries> hi could somebody walk me through partitioning my drive to install windows+
[23:08] <usr13> shelfries: to install windows?
[23:08] <usr13> shelfries: MS Windows?
[23:08] <shelfries> yes
[23:08] <usr13> shelfries: The MS Windows installer will do it for you.
[23:09] <usr13> shelfries: Or,   /join #windows
[23:09] <g-zus> ubuntu-tester1: thanks, will try :) going to check the bios. brb.
[23:09] <TimeRider_UK> huh?
[23:10] <shelfries> usr13 it says my hard drive isn't partitioned correctly. and i would but i'm running linux they prolly wouldn't be able to help me partition hard drives when i'm running linux
[23:10] <mladoux> I'd install windows first, then linux after, that way you don't have to deal with the Windows boot loader.
[23:10] <TimeRider_UK> can browse at home bt not coffee shop? static dns set maybe?
[23:10] <TimeRider_UK> fdisk
[23:10] <usr13> shelfries: How can you be running Linux and installing MS Windows at the same time?
[23:10] <TimeRider_UK> sorry, reading back all over
[23:11] <TimeRider_UK> virtualising :)
[23:11] <usr13> shelfries: Are you trying to set up a dual-boot system?
[23:11] <TimeRider_UK> gparted - or parted
[23:11] <TimeRider_UK> or fdisk
[23:11] <ubuntu-tester1> shelfries: are you trying to install windows side-by-side with ubuntu or to a separate physical disk?
[23:12] <shelfries> no not currently. i jacked up my computer pretty nicely when i was attempting to dual boot and ended up with ubuntu installed. i want to get back to windows so i can run ubuntu in a virtual box
[23:12] <xentity1x> My package system is broken. I tired disabling other software sources and running sudo apt-get install -f, but it didn't fix it. This is what I got http://pastebin.com/UVHCuWC6. Can anyone help?
[23:12] <usr13> shelfries: And you have installed Linux first?  If so, did you leave free space at the front of the drive?  Or do you have a second HD?  If not, I suggest you install a second HD.
[23:12] <shelfries> but i can't do that until i get windows back on and i can't get windows back on until the hard drive is partitioned correctly. how do i do that?
[23:12] <shelfries> usr13 how do i do that
[23:13] <jrib> xentity1x: do you have any idea why?  Give background
[23:13] <TimeRider_UK> shellrisk: make do primary partitions, install windows firs, then install ubuntu, you'll get a boot menu to start either then
[23:13] <usr13> shelfries: Are you sure you don't have MS Windows still installed and are just unable to boot to it?  (If that is the case, you should be able to fix that...)
[23:13] <TimeRider_UK> I can't type...
[23:13] <TimeRider_UK> darn
[23:13] <ubuntu-tester1> shelfries: boot from live cd/usb, run gparted, remove all partitions (with ALL your data, beware!), then install win
[23:14] <usr13> shelfries: Actually, your best bet is to just set MS Windows up as the guest OS.  You already have Linux installed, just install vbox and install MS Windows as guest OS.
[23:14] <xentity1x> jrib, I'm not exactly sure. It happened when I installed WINE from the software center. At the bottom of the pastebin it shows the deb files that cause errors while processing.
[23:15] <jrib> xentity1x: why did you mention you disabled software sources?
[23:15] <danme3> usr13: Ok, here's ROUTE -N (UBUNTU) -> http://pastebin.com/n6dDvWdw and here is IPCONFIG /ALL (WINDOWS) -> http://pastebin.com/xq64ufHi
[23:15] <shelfries> usr13 no i'm sure i dont have windows. and i'm confused on the boot part. how do i boot from a live disc and then run gparted?
[23:16] <usr13> shelfries: The package is virtualbox
[23:16] <TimeRider_UK> .. you all gonna confuse him
[23:16] <ubuntu-tester1> !livecd | shelfries
[23:16] <xentity1x> jrib, I saw an error message that said to try disabling third party repositories and running apt-get install -f.
[23:16] <danme3> usr13: i messaged you
[23:16] <xentity1x> jrib, it did't really seem to help
[23:17] <jrib> xentity1x: pastebin: dpkg -l '*:i386' | grep '^ii'
[23:17] <danme3> usr13: Ok, here's ROUTE -N (UBUNTU) -> http://pastebin.com/n6dDvWdw and here is IPCONFIG /ALL (WINDOWS) -> http://pastebin.com/xq64ufHi
[23:17] <xentity1x> jrib, what does that do?
[23:17] <shelfries> yeah i'm confused.
[23:17] <shelfries> ubottu how do i get that?
[23:17] <jrib> xentity1x: it just prints information
[23:17] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : so many ways you can achieve what you want from linux
[23:18] <TimeRider_UK> me thinks you new
[23:18] <shelfries> yeah i'm new to this
[23:18] <shelfries> i need like a step by step of how to do all this
[23:18] <TimeRider_UK> me thinks you should: run gparted - partition your drive... THEN install windows to one partition, then reboot and install Ubuntu to the other
[23:18] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : you've partitioned a drive before?
[23:19] <ubuntu-tester1> shelfries: how did you get your current system's distro
[23:19] <xentity1x> jrib, http://pastebin.com/hX5Npwb4
[23:19] <shelfries> on windows yes. but on linux and gparted it won't let me because its mounted
[23:19] <Nerdshank> anyone good with wireless problems?
[23:19] <shelfries> ubuntu-tester well i had a fiasco and managed to somehow get 12.10 installed. i'm not sure how
[23:20] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : as mentioned above, boot from your install disc.. it wil let you run gparted
[23:20] <usr13> Nerdshank: What do you need?
[23:20] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : I'm assuming it was the ubuntu live install you used
[23:20] <jrib> xentity1x: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdrm/+bug/1068165
[23:20] <shelfries> i installed 12.10 from a boot disc i created TimeRider_UK
[23:20] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : run gparted now though to familarise yourself and you can ask questions in here.. it's quite straight forwrd
[23:21] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : 12.10 shoul give you a desktop with option to simply run, OR install.... simply run/test
[23:21] <TimeRider_UK> Where are you in the world Shel?
[23:21] <Nerdshank> usr13: got atheroes AR9485 wireless card, really bad connectivity and random timeouts freeze up pc too sometimes
[23:21] <shelfries> i'm a student, and its installed
[23:21] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : but you have the disc?
[23:21] <usr13> Nerdshank: iwconfig  | pastebinit   #Let's have a look at connection info.
[23:22] <TimeRider_UK> sel the cd/dvd?
[23:22] <xentity1x> jrib, how can you tell from what i just showed you?
[23:22] <Nerdshank> usr13, i know this was a know bug for this card but havent found solution
[23:22] <jrib> xentity1x: it was unrelated, I stumbled upon the bug while waiting for you to pastebin
[23:22] <jrib> xentity1x: there's a workaround in the comments
[23:22] <usr13> Nerdshank: What version of Ubuntu?
[23:22] <shelfries> yes i have the disk, so boot it and i can just run it and partition the system?
[23:22] <xentity1x> jrib, thanks
[23:23] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : yes you can
[23:24] <Nerdshank> usr13, atm 11.10 - was on 12.04 this is where the problem laid, not sure if 11 does it too this is a fresh install
[23:24] <shelfries> ok so when i do that how do i partition the hard drive and where do i go from there?
[23:24] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : I'd suggest erase all partitions, then create 2 primary ones
[23:24] <ubuntu-tester1> danme3: seems like your wireless connection is up. bring it down, bring eth up, record ifconfig and route -n, pastebin
[23:24] <BroUnicorn> Hey
[23:24] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : that way you can choose your OS as familiarise yourself with Linux/Ubuntu
[23:24] <BroUnicorn> So I changed over to windows
[23:25] <Nerdshank> usr13, but so far its not as bad
[23:25] <shelfries> TimeRider_UK so i have a 500 gb hard drive. for the two partitions should i just do half and half?
[23:25] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : Install Windows first, then install linux to the second partition, Ubuntu will realise windows in present and give you an option on boot
[23:25] <usr13> Nerdshank: iwconfig  | pastebinit   #Let's have a look at connection info.
[23:25] <BroUnicorn> I'm running the universal usb pendrive installer. However when locating the iso file that is on my desktop the iso file doesn't show up..
[23:26] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : half and half is fine, it'll do for you for now, you may decide later to have more (or less) space for either OS... Depends on what you want to use it for... go 50/50 for now though :)
[23:26] <TimeRider_UK> .. I smell coffee... but I don't have coffee machine on... hmmmmmm
[23:26] <ubuntu-tester1> BroUnicorn: are you in win now?
[23:26] <Nerdshank> usr13, no extensions returned
[23:26] <BroUnicorn> usr13 I moved my iso file over to windows.
[23:26] <usr13> Nerdshank: So, it's not working at all then?
[23:26] <BroUnicorn> Sorry, not trying to interrupt. Accidentally hit enter
[23:26] <shelfries> TimeRider_UK ok so when i do the partitions in linux, i shut down, insert windows cd/usb and install it?
[23:26] <DaemonicApathy> BroUnicorn: Did you put it on the correct Desktop?
[23:26] <usr13> BroUnicorn: Thats' ok.
[23:27] <Nerdshank> no its working very intermittently
[23:27] <BroUnicorn> Yes. It's on my Windows desktop. I run the pendrive installer and select ubuntu, then attempt to find the iso file on my desktop. Yet, it isn't there.
[23:27] <ubuntu-tester1> BroUnicorn: what's exact iso filename?
[23:27] <d4rkwizz4rd> hi people
[23:28] <usr13> Nerdshank: You don't see  wlan0  ?
[23:28] <Nerdshank> usr13, maybe its just a 12.04 issue?
[23:28] <Nerdshank> usr13, no not
[23:28] <BroUnicorn> ubuntu-12-1.10-desktop-i386
[23:28] <usr13> Nerdshank: Should work on either one.
[23:28] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : yes.. partition using your ubuntu disc.. shutdown, instal windows to first partition, shutdown, install ubuntu to second partition.. reboot and play :)
[23:28] <Nerdshank> usr13, sec just ran it again it showed
[23:28] <ero-jiji> is it possible to share a folder in my /home folder with another user? say my user account is "desktop" and i want to share /home/ftp with user account "test"
[23:29] <shelfries> TimeRider_UK ok so what type of partitions do these need to be? NTFS?
[23:29] <ubuntu-tester1> BroUnicorn: looks like wrong name.
[23:29] <shelfries> do i need to change anything in the bios?
[23:29] <DaemonicApathy> shelfries: Have you been through the installer yet?
[23:29] <BroUnicorn> ubuntu-tester1 Does the name have to be exact?
[23:30] <shelfries> and then how will it know to install to the right partition?
[23:30] <TimeRider_UK> I'd leave em blank and let the OS choose it's default
[23:30] <Nerdshank> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1535959/
[23:30] <shelfries> just leave them as unallocated space then right?
[23:30] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries windows will ask you, as will Ubuntu
[23:30] <BroUnicorn> That was the issue.
[23:30] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : so yes leave em blank, but TWO partitions
[23:30] <BroUnicorn> Thank you very much.
[23:30] <ubuntu-tester1> yes, installer only shows iso files that  match target system/arch
[23:31] <shelfries> and both primary. ok i'll try that then
[23:31] <shelfries> Thanks
[23:31] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : you're welcome, you have another computer so you can get back in here if you get stuck?
[23:31] <Nerdshank> usr13, idk seems to be ok in 11 im think its just an issue with 12
[23:31] <Danawar3> Hey #ubuntu my ubuntu machine is running rather slow and at times when i try to use it, it just locks up what would the reason be for this or how can i troubleshoot it?
[23:32] <usr13> Nerdshank: Link Quality=48/70  Signal level=-62 dBm   (Doesn't look good..)  Weak signal.
[23:32] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : and don't worry about the confusion earlier, pretty much everyone WAS right, just so many different ways of achieving a similar goal
[23:32] <ero-jiji> is it possible to share a folder in my /home folder with another user? say my user account is "desktop" and i want to share /home/ftp with user account "test" (its not possible for me to move the folder)
[23:32] <shelfries> TimeRider_UK yeah i do. and alright sounds good
[23:32] <BroUnicorn> When this program turns the usb into a ubuntu pendrive will I be able to boot on my Mac?
[23:32] <usr13> Nerdshank: Can you improve your location?  (Or the router's location?  Maybe a higher shelf?)
[23:32] <Nerdshank> usr13, ya thats one of the problems i get even sitting only 2 feet from route
[23:33] <TimeRider_UK> shelfries : Have fun, you stick at playing with linux, you gonna love it... I've not looked back in YEARS :)
[23:33] <usr13> Nerdshank: Ok, not good.
[23:33] <usr13> Nerdshank: I see:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/121487/atheros-ar9485-wireless-card-doesnt-work-in-an-asus-k53e
[23:33] <DaemonicApathy> ero-jiji: GUI or CLI?
[23:33] <TimeRider_UK> .. anyone got any cigarette papers I can have?
[23:33] <univyrse> i remember the night I switched to linux
[23:33] <usr13> Nerdshank: And for 12.04 I see:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983003
[23:34] <TimeRider_UK> univyrse : how long ago?
[23:34] <ero-jiji> DaemonicApathy GUI via x2go
[23:34] <usr13> Nerdshank: Fully updated?   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:34] <TimeRider_UK> My first UNIX experience was like 22 years ago.. eek!
[23:34] <univyrse> i thought I could switch back, so I just stuck with linux. I miss playing video games a lot, but this year will be great with gaben and steam
[23:34] <univyrse> TimeRider_UK, around 10.04 was released
[23:34] <univyrse> whenever that was
[23:34] <DaemonicApathy> ero-jiji: You don't have local access?
[23:35] <TimeRider_UK> univyrse : Yeah, but hey.. Wine if set up right will play TF2 etc BETTER than windoze!
[23:35] <Nerdshank> usr13, yes its updated lol i laided it on top of router and only getting 59/70
[23:35] <BroUnicorn> I'm excited for this to install. I'm a computer science major at UT Knoxville. I went into one of the labs for the first time the other day... every single lab computer has ubuntu installed. First time I'd ever seen it, and I was completely convinced to switch.
[23:35] <TimeRider_UK> univyrse : Thing OI love with Linux... it's so open source, there literally is NO limit to what you really can do
[23:35] <Perfie> LOL
[23:35] <univyrse> I hate wine
[23:35] <ero-jiji> dae its a remote server that i was using as a backup ftp target, the original ftp root was put in /home/ftp of the main dir. and the way it was partitioned all the space was put into /home
[23:35] <Perfie> univyrse, wine hates you
[23:35] <univyrse> I would rather devs make linux games
[23:35] <BroUnicorn> Now I do have a question... since I'm putting ubuntu on a pen drive.. I won't be able to save any programs on it would I?
[23:36] <usr13> Nerdshank: Not good.  I dono.  Maybe you need another wireless card?
[23:36] <ero-jiji> DaemonicApathy its a remote server that i was using as a backup ftp target, the original ftp root was put in /home/ftp of the main dir. and the way it was partitioned all the space was put into /home
[23:36] <Perfie> and besides, only old farts and wanna bee classy people drink wine
[23:36] <Perfie> but that ain't classy
[23:36] <TimeRider_UK> univyrse : hell yeah, that's the way it should be, crumbs, we have compilers here for everything.. if the company has source... make...
[23:36] <matti_> Trying to shoehorn Ubuntu on a 1280x600 tablet. Having trouble locating info about how to effect auto rotate screen and automating the onscreen keyboard popup behavior. Any pointers?
[23:36] <Perfie> awwh, c'mon. Just making conversation.
[23:36] <TimeRider_UK> Perfie : wanna call around for a drop?
[23:36] <DaemonicApathy> ero-jiji: "Dae" is fine if you like, I'm paying attention. ;-) If there is no sharing option upon right clicking the folder, I'll leave this to someone else.
[23:36] <IdleOne> Perfie: please stop ban evading. part this channel now.
[23:37] <Perfie> looooool
[23:37] <ero-jiji> DaemonicApathy now i need to give a couple users read access to backups on the machine, and i dont want to give them my user acct obviously
[23:37] <Perfie> ban evading?
[23:37] <Perfie> I'm banned?
[23:37] <TimeRider_UK> Perfie : long as you bring some women and some cig papers :)
[23:37] <univyrse> it wont matter after this year, gaben is going to force devs to switch to linux with the new steam, and as long as us linux games buy the linux games, that will be that
[23:37] <Perfie> IdleOne, my ip gave me another chance, you should too ;)
[23:37] <univyrse> ban evasion is gline-worthy
[23:37] <univyrse> talk to #freenode
[23:37] <TimeRider_UK> My STEAM ID: 495
[23:38] <TimeRider_UK> well actually 1:495
[23:38] <univyrse> I still don't have one
[23:38] <TimeRider_UK> I was running steam servers for a long time before steam was released
[23:38] <brady2600> the policies here are nazi level anyhow.
[23:38] <DaemonicApathy> Hardly, brady.
[23:38] <univyrse> brady, freenode policies or channel policies?
[23:38] <TimeRider_UK> brady2600 : they are? where are you? Britain?
[23:38] <ero-jiji> DaemonicApathy theres approx 7tb of backups there now, and no easy way to remove them all, reset up the folders, and reupload
[23:38] <IdleOne> !ot
[23:38] <Nerdshank> usr13, if your suggesting bad card i dont believe so, it works well in windows so idk. maybe just not linux friendly
[23:39] <TimeRider_UK> freenode so bad? I never did have a problem
[23:39] <univyrse> can ubottu actually tell if we're offtopic or does someone play puppeteer?
[23:39] <Danawar3> ey Ubuntu my Ubuntu computer has started getting very slow and occasionally locking up where would I be able to troubleshoot this as CPU usage is always around 10-20%
[23:39] <univyrse> I have a feeling it's the latter
[23:39] <k1l> hey guys, would be nice if we can keep this channel clean for the support questions. thanks
[23:39] <Nerdshank> usr13, trying backport update ill let u know how it turns out, thankyou
[23:39] <Hamtechperson> hey, can someone give me some help? I mistakenly typed Http instead of http when trying to input the partner database. How can I change it?
[23:39] <TimeRider_UK> Danawar3 : top/htop
[23:39] <usr13> Nerdshank: Exactly, not Linux Friendly.  (Linux users are careful to buy Linux Friendly Hardware.)
[23:40] <TimeRider_UK> .. but that's just cos I'm a console dude
[23:40] <univyrse> htop is godly
[23:40] <Danawar3> TimeRider_UK: htop and top seem to show me the same thing  weather the computer is locking up or not
[23:40] <usr13> Nerdshank: Yea, I've given you all the info I have on it.  I just dono.  Maybe someone else will tell you something.
[23:40] <univyrse> i just wish it would save my damn settings between sessions
[23:40] <k1l> Hamtechperson: does that make any difference?
[23:40] <Danawar3> TimeRider_UK: Some times htop shows a process called "visitors" which takes up alot of CPU ussage
[23:40] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : if I'm reading yo uright.. look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:41] <TimeRider_UK> Danawar3 : so look up 'visitors' see what the heck it is!
[23:41] <univyrse> idleone, that is most likely unwise
[23:41] <TimeRider_UK> anyone else got 'visitors' running on their machine?
[23:41] <univyrse> you just banned everyone without an irc client
[23:41] <TimeRider_UK> Danawar3 : or kill it and see what happens
[23:43] <ero-jiji> is it possible to share a folder in my /home folder with another user? say my user account is "desktop" and i want to share /home/ftp with user account "test" (its not possible for me to move the folder and theres no share option in right click menu)
[23:43] <TimeRider_UK> wow, everyone is gone!
[23:43] <univyrse> man oh man, super goof has been enabled in this channel
[23:43] <matti_> (waving)
[23:43] <Hamtechperson> super goof?
[23:43] <univyrse> yeah, it's way worse than a regular goof
[23:43] <k1l> univyrse: do you have something usefull to say? please keep this channel free for support. thank you
[23:44] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : yeah, apt-get install super-goof
[23:44] <DX099_live> hello
[23:44] <TimeRider_UK> though it looks like it's running as a cron job, lol
[23:44] <univyrse> k1l, are you implying that I am less than useful because I would find such an implication highly derogatory and hurtful
[23:44] <brady2600> notice how quickly they will ban people here for tiny infractions to pointless policies, yet they don't seem to spend much time caring about people asking questions most of the time.
[23:45] <orbitwhite> true
[23:45] <Hamtechperson> I'd need sudo for that, right?
[23:45] <univyrse> brady do you have something useful to say? please keep this channel free for support. thank you
[23:45] <usr13> brady2600: This is a busy chanel.
[23:45] <TimeRider_UK> brady2600 : agree...  I idle in here much, but tonight have answered, and hopefully helped several people... I await my ban
[23:45] <jarlath> Anyone recommend or warn against amd-driver-installer-12.6-legacy-x86.x86_64.run ?
[23:45] <Hamtechperson> Also, now that I'm into sources.list, what should I do?
[23:45] <DX099_live> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on a  new computer that has an "AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor"
[23:45] <orbitwhite> ban plz
[23:45] <DX099_live> was I right to choose amd64 image ?
[23:45] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : edit the Http to http
[23:46] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : then save
[23:46] <Jeruvy> DX099_live yes.
[23:46] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : if that doesn't help, then I didn't understand the question that you didn't ask correctly :p
[23:46] <Hamtechperson> It opened read only. But it helps.
[23:46] <synapsxyz> c
[23:46] <orbitwhite> wow never thought Http and http plays role
[23:46] <tekk> hi guys, i wanna try out the bond0 interface.. i live in a remote region with poor adsl, however i have 4 3G modems, all that i can connect to via WiFi
[23:46] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : drop to root console and edit in there
[23:47] <ikonia> tekk: I'd not advise you to try two networks like that for bonding
[23:47] <tekk> the question is… does wpa_supplicant on a single system, support the connection/authentication of 4+ simultaneous wifi connections?
[23:47] <k1l> TimeRider_UK: no need for root console. we have sudo to to this
[23:47] <DX099_live> Jeruvy, ok. Now I have a 60 gig SSD. Windows is already taking ~25 Go
[23:47] <Hamtechperson> Root console? (Sorry if that seems stupid, but I'm new)
[23:47] <TimeRider_UK> orbitwhite : upper and lower case matter a lot...
[23:47] <tekk> ikonia, how come?
[23:47] <ikonia> tekk: bonding isn't meant for that sort of thing
[23:47] <synapsxyz> ok
[23:47] <DX099_live> To avoid any space conflict how should I install ubuntu on it ?
[23:47] <tekk> i basically wanna broadcast a single wifi network for my family that has several backbones
[23:47] <tekk> roundrobin style
[23:47] <k1l> Hamtechperson: use "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[23:47] <tekk> ikonia, but it would work right?
[23:47] <ikonia> tekk: you'd need very complex routing
[23:47] <TimeRider_UK> k1l : he's still gonna have to drop to console, no sudo for gui for him?
[23:48] <Jeruvy> DX099_live Windows 7 or 8?  I would use a 60GB drive strickly for windows.  You could partition 20GB for Ubuntu
[23:48] <ikonia> tekk: no, it wouldn't as I suspect your routing would not be good enough
[23:48] <DX099_live> Jeruvy, Windows 8
[23:48] <tekk> why? i thought that for example if i had 4 separate connections to 4 seperate websites, the bond0 interface would handle it if the correct bonding option was chosen?
[23:48] <TimeRider_UK> k1l : cos nano is orrible! :p
[23:48] <ikonia> tekk: the technical concept you suggest would work, the practicality of a working solution, wouldn't
[23:48] <Jeruvy> DX099_live 60GB is recommended for 8, so I'd consider another drive, or like I stated above.
[23:49] <tekk> ikonia, right now i have 1 3G connection broadcasting wifi for 3 people
[23:49] <DaemonicApathy> nano isn't horrible, but one can usually use gksudo nautilus if one preferes. I've seen this cause glitches in the DE occasionally, though.
[23:49] <orbitwhite> tekk, how will be decided which particular website should be routed through certain device
[23:49] <tekk> several separate 3g connections over a single wifi would be better for my use case
[23:49] <ikonia> tekk: I'm sorry that wouldn't work
[23:49] <DX099_live> DX099_live, so I may take 20 Go for Ubuntu on the SSD (of course, home will be on another partition) ?
[23:49] <komputes> orbitwhite: heh adblock plus auto-corrected Http for me
[23:49] <ikonia> tekk: while as a concept it is acceptable, as a solution it's not
[23:49] <tekk> orbitwhite, the bond0 interface supports several options, one is simple roundrobin
[23:49] <TimeRider_UK> DaemonicApathy : handy tip there :) I play console 99% of time so bit behind on the gui
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> :q
[23:50] <ero-jiji> is it possible to share a folder in my /home folder with another user? say my user account is "desktop" and i want to share /home/ftp with user account "test" (its not possible for me to move the folder and theres no share option in right click menu)
[23:50] <tekk> hmm… can you suggest anything else ikonia? as i know vendors who ship expensive 3g dongle bonding solutions
[23:50] <ikonia> tekk: I'm sorry, but my view of that problem and it's solution requires enterprise hardware
[23:50] <stqn> bye
[23:50] <matti_> Ubuntu 12.10 on a tablet - any info on implementing auto-rotate screen and on-screen keyboard auto-popup?
[23:50] <Jeruvy> DX099_live, that should work for a while.
[23:51] <tekk> maybe i should code a simple socks proxy as a workaround for now
[23:51] <univyrse> i cant wait to write mobile apps in something other than java and objc
[23:51] <tekk> that round robin's 4 interfaces
[23:51] <DX099_live> Jeruvy, Meaning 12 Gb left for Windows isn't enough ?
[23:51] <univyrse> ubuntu phone is going to be the shiiiiiiiiiit
[23:51] <tekk> but exposes just a socks proxy to the client over a LAN ip
[23:51] <ikonia> tekk: it's not as simple as just round robbin
[23:51] <Jeruvy> ikonia, you could do that with a sony eriksson MD400 for example on a desktop.
[23:51] <TimeRider_UK> DX099_live : windows needs lots of space.. lots of memory...
[23:52] <tekk> enlighten me… if an IP connection is given over eth0 to client1 and returned the same route… what could be an issue?
[23:52] <TimeRider_UK> DX099_live inneficient coding
[23:52] <orbitwhite> tekk, ok u got roundrobin what will it solve according to ur plan?
[23:52] <tekk> i understand if its transmitted via eth0 and returned over eth1 for example
[23:52] <Jeruvy> DX099_live if you not going to do a lot with it you should be fine but yes when it says 60GB is recommended you should listen :)
[23:52] <tekk> orbitwhite, it means that my wife can be watching iplayer whilst i play spotify
[23:52] <ubuntu-tester1> ero-jiji: do you want to share via ftp?
[23:52] <ikonia> tekk: a bonded interface is not a physical device oviously, so you are going to have multiple networks routing packets to a single host
[23:52] <Hamtechperson> How do you save in nano?
[23:52] <tekk> both using different backbones
[23:53] <jrib> Hamtechperson: the bottom explains (you want to press ctrl-o)
[23:53] <BroUnicorn> I made my usb into a pen drive using the software that I was told to use via the ubuntu website
[23:53] <DaemonicApathy> Hamtechperson: make  change, then exit.
[23:53] <ero-jiji> @ubuntu-tester1 no, i need it shared to a second user account on the same machine
[23:53] <tekk> so ikonia, without any bonding at all… what danger is there in making a simple socks proxy that selects several physical interfaces and chooses them on a round robin basis?
[23:53] <BroUnicorn> I did it on the Windows partition that I have boot camped on my mac. NOW, how do I actually run and use ubuntu?
[23:53] <tekk> as a possible "solution"
[23:53] <Nukien> Can anyone point me in the right direction to create my own udeb for inclusion on a customized ISO that can use dialog to ask questions of the user?
[23:53] <tekk> (its a real question, i wanna know what point i'm missing)
[23:53] <tekk> *so i don't waste my time
[23:54] <orbitwhite> tekk, as for me u already do, but u will realize it later
[23:54] <orbitwhite> at this point seems like its impossible to explain why this idea not worth it
[23:54] <tekk> so you suggest the best practise for now is to just give my wife 1 dongle whilst i use the other?
[23:54] <ubuntu-tester1> ero-jiji: is sharing with any account OK?
[23:54] <tekk> as god intended
[23:55] <orbitwhite> this is the only solution according to provided facts as i see it
[23:55] <Hamtechperson> It worked! Thanks everyone!
[23:55] <ero-jiji> @ubuntu-tester that would be fine, theres only my admin account, and 2 accounts im setting up on it, its a remote server so i dont have physical access
[23:55] <TimeRider_UK> :) pleased to be of assistance hamtechperson :)
[23:55] <Nukien> Good example would be the tasksel screen, which asks the user which tasks to include
[23:55] <tekk> and i doubt anyone is using bond0 interface for an enterprise solution…. so what is it used for?
[23:56] <tekk> or is it a left over kernel artifact
[23:56] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : case matters a lot :)
[23:56] <ikonia> tekk: bonding is used for MANY enterprise solutions
[23:56] <ubuntu-tester1> BroUnicorn: boot from pen drive, use, install
[23:56] <tekk> ubuntu linux kernel bonding?
[23:56] <tekk> really?
[23:56] <ikonia> tekk: linux kernel bonding, yes
[23:56] <ikonia> it's a very good solution
[23:56] <BroUnicorn> ubuntu-tester1: How do I boot from the pen drive though? Especially since I'm on a mac.
[23:56] <Nukien> Sorry - meant pkgsel, not tasksel
[23:56] <tekk> i thought people would prefer a hardware solution
[23:56] <tekk> given enough money
[23:57] <Hamtechperson> Figured that out on yer own, did ya TimeRider?
[23:57] <ikonia> tekk: some do, but it's a good solution, so more than usable by many people
[23:57] <orbitwhite> tekk, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_bonding
[23:57] <TimeRider_UK> Hamtechperson : no, I asked in here :p
[23:57] <tekk> can you give me a use case other than link agg
[23:57] <tekk> so i can understand it better
[23:57] <DaemonicApathy> BroUnicorn: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1948
[23:57] <ubuntu-tester1> !mac | BroUnicorn
[23:57] <Hamtechperson> BroUnicorn, can you get at the BIOS of the computer?
[23:57] <ero-jiji> @ubuntu-tester1 that would be fine, theres only my admin account, and 2 accounts im setting up on it, its a remote server so i dont have physical access
[23:58] <ikonia> tekk: not really for this channel, but the wiki is quite good
[23:58] <BroUnicorn> Hamtechperson: On a mac? I'm not quite sure. I have Windows partitioned on it already, so I hold alt when the computer starts up and can choose between Mac Windows and Recovery HD, but the usb does not show up among those options.
[23:58] <slowwritespeed> does partition table matter?
[23:58] <ubuntu-tester1> ero-jiji: give that folder proper permissions (readable by others) with chmod
[23:58] <tekk> the wiki describes the wrong kind of bonding
[23:59] <tekk> there are something like 4 methods available in kernel bonding
[23:59] <tekk> /approaches
[23:59] <orbitwhite> tekk, u asked for examples, u can expand from that wiki on google
[23:59] <ubuntu-tester1> ero-jiji: chmod -R u+r /path/to/folder
[23:59] <Xeago> I installed ubuntu server and can access the server fine from local network
[23:59] <orbitwhite> to discover certain cases and solutions where it used