[00:09] <keithzg_> So are there N7 builds yet? I'm tempted to try Plasma Active on my Nexus 7, but I don't want to have to fiddle around with removing all the Ubuntu/Unity/Gnome stuff. I mean, I'll do it if need be, but pre-built images would be great.
[01:51] <zacarias> Hi. My alt key is doing nothing with the "at" and the "euro" signs on the "2" and "3" keys. I can't type those signs. I tried several keyboard layouts, hardware, etc, without success. But before it used to do it. I don't know what happened. Any idea? Thanks
[02:01] <zacarias> 2
[02:05] <zacarias> Hi. My alt key is doing nothing with the "at" and the "euro" signs on the "2" and "3" keys. I can't type those signs. I tried several keyboard layouts, hardware, etc, without success. But before it used to do it. I don't know what happened. Any idea? Thanks
[03:25] <urlwolf> I want to try gnome 3, but have kubuntu. Will following these steps: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html break something?
[03:29] <DarthFrog> urlwolf: You're unlikely to get an answer here.  We're KDE folks, not GNOMEs.  I can say that you can install the ubuntu-desktop package and switch between desktop environments as you wish without problems.
[03:30] <urlwolf> thanks
[04:02] <KaiserSoze> anyone rock climb?
[04:03] <kitsune_flame> i've always wanted to try
[04:03] <KaiserSoze> its a pretty great sport, i've been climbing about a year now.  i'd never done it before and just looked up a gym in the area to give it a try.
[04:08] <kitsune_flame> oh, i've been to a rock gym a few times. very fun
[04:43] <UberDuper> My laptop running kubuntu 12.10 with the 4.10-RC and edgers ppa seems to lock the cpu at its highest scaling after waking from sleep.
[06:48] <Stihotvor> hohoho! Merry Cristmas!
[07:22] <sbivol_> UberDuper: can you figure out which process does that?
[07:23] <sbivol_> UberDuper: the usual suspects are kded, kmix and nepomuk
[08:40] <TheOneRing> hi
[08:40] <TheOneRing> somehow my kuuntu desktop loks itself every few seconds
[08:40] <TheOneRing> while Im using it
[08:41] <TheOneRing> the screen turns black and when I move the cursor I have to re enter my key
[08:45] <TheOneRing> and now it stopped locking itself...
[08:47] <kotTon_kaNdiy> what version of kubuntu?
[09:29] <kdns> Hi all. Can someone please tell me how to make my PC + WLAN card, act as an AP?
[09:30] <kdns> I've googled it and tried a bunch of things, to no avail....
[09:41] <ajazdzewski_> kdns: https://www.google.de/search?q=linux+wireless+access+point+howto
[09:42] <kdns> I already just said, I have googled it
[09:43] <ajazdzewski_> kdns: how do you like to build it?
[09:44] <ajazdzewski_> use the networmanager? configure it with wapsupplicatnt and co
[09:44] <kdns> I've tried creating it in network manager as adhoc, no AP appears (as seen from my phone). Tried as 'shared', same. Tried shared IP, DHCP, tried locking it to a specific card... literally everything I could do with every setting in network manager, nothing ever shows up ...
[09:44] <ajazdzewski_> dose your card support the ap mode?
[09:44] <kdns> ahh I didn't know it needed hardware support, I'll check. Thanks :)
[09:45] <kdns> yes, it does.
[09:48] <ajazdzewski_> sorry i'am @work so i will be back later
[10:00] <ajazdzewski_> kdns: may have a look at "hostapd"
[10:11] <BTCOxygen> hi
[10:11] <BTCOxygen> On windows i can lock screen by pressing Winkey + L
[10:11] <BTCOxygen> Is there a shortcut key for Kubuntu?
[10:12] <BTCOxygen> to lock screen
[10:13] <jimbob6996> not that I can find, bt
[10:14] <neotheo> BTCOxygen: try CTRL + ALT + L
[10:15] <BTCOxygen> neotheo: thanks
[10:15] <jimbob6996> and ctrl+alt+T to switch to terminal
[10:15] <jimbob6996> makes sense
[10:15] <neotheo> didnt know that one :D
[10:15] <neotheo> doesnt work :(
[10:16] <lordievader> KDE doesn't have ctrl+alt+t as standard, that is to say, there is no standard key for the Konsole.
[10:16] <jimbob6996> not Konsole
[10:16] <lordievader> You can ofcourse set the Konsole to launch on ctrl + alt + t
[10:17] <jimbob6996> to exit to the terminal screen
[10:17] <jimbob6996> or k
[10:18] <lordievader> jimbob6996: Are you on Ubuntu? There ctrl + alt + t launches the Gnome terminal indeed.
[10:18] <jimbob6996> yup
[10:18] <jimbob6996> since this is a kubutnu chat room, I figured everyone was using it
[10:18] <lordievader> jimbob6996: Ah, this is Kubuntu, Kubuntu doesn't have a standard keyboard shortcut for the Konsole, the KDE terminal emulator.
[10:18] <jimbob6996> my bad
[10:19] <lordievader> jimbob6996: No problem :)
[11:01] <as> hi,
[11:01] <as> I have installed scrapy
[11:01] <as> when i try starting it, i get following error
[11:02] <as> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pyOpenSSL
[11:02] <as> i have installed pyOpenSSL using its tar file
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:12] <amarsaurabh> problem starting scrapy
[11:13] <mr0wl> hello BluesKaj
[11:13] <amarsaurabh> i get following error
[11:13] <amarsaurabh> when i strat scrapy
[11:13] <amarsaurabh> pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: pyOpenSSL
[11:15] <BluesKaj> amarsaurabh, you might get an answer in #python
[11:16] <amarsaurabh> thanks
[12:16] <yossarianuk> Why does kubuntu not come with kwrite installed by default? seems better than Kate .
[12:19] <Riddell> yossarianuk: arbitrary choice I made back in the day, I prefer kate because it can load more than one document in one window which was in line with UI trends back then (tabbed browsing)
[12:40] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[13:14] <yossarianuk> would be good for kwrite to be installed by default...
[13:14] <hateball> yossarianuk: Why?
[13:15] <hateball> Nevermind, I read koffice for whatever reason ;f
[13:17] <Wizard> Kate <3
[14:29] <FlashDeluxe> hi! i got a question: I am using the current kubuntu 32bit with 4G of RAM. Now if i do a free -m i see there are only 3275M of RAM, is it possible to use all of the 4G?
[14:30] <BTCOxygen> FlashDeluxe: No
[14:30] <BTCOxygen> FlashDeluxe: To use all 4GB you need to use the 64-bit edition
[14:31] <FlashDeluxe> BTCOxygen: but in theory 32bit could use up to 4G or am i wrong?
 theory 32bit could use ~4G
[14:32] <BTCOxygen> ~ == apriximately
[14:32] <BTCOxygen> rox*
[14:32] <BTCOxygen> lol
[14:32] <BTCOxygen> typo
[14:32] <BTCOxygen> ok
[14:32] <FloodBotK1> BTCOxygen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:33] <shadeslayer> let's approach this mathematically
[14:33] <lordievader> FlashDeluxe: Or you could you the PAE kernel, that one supports more than 3.7G of RAM.
 theory 32bit could use around 4G
[14:33] <FlashDeluxe> yes, but in /proc/meminfo there is total memory of 3353648 kB Thats way to less?
[14:33] <shadeslayer> with 32 bits you can address 2^32 unique locations
[14:33] <BTCOxygen> FlashDeluxe: Thats normal for a 32-bit
[14:34] <FlashDeluxe> I got a windows 7 on another notebook with 32bit and there i get 4G running
[14:34] <FlashDeluxe> i will try the pae kernel and see whats happening
[14:35] <BTCOxygen> FlashDeluxe: or you could use 64-bit
[14:35] <FlashDeluxe> BTCOxygen: not on my notebook :(
[14:35] <lordievader> FlashDeluxe: Windows 32Bit sees the same amount of ram, they just say it is 4G...
[14:36] <BTCOxygen> FlashDeluxe: does your notebook support 64-bit ?
[14:36] <FlashDeluxe> BTCOxygen: nope :(
[14:37] <BTCOxygen> then i guess you have to go with the kernal lordievader mentioned
[14:38] <lordievader> FlashDeluxe: Btw you won't notice much difference between 3.7 and 4G, I'd say it is too much trouble for what is's worth.
[14:39] <FlashDeluxe> lordievader my problem is, that i am using 3,3G i would be happy to use 3,7G ;-)
[14:39] <BTCOxygen> then go with the kernal lordievader mentioned
[14:39] <BTCOxygen> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[14:40] <FlashDeluxe> yup, i will try it
[14:40] <BTCOxygen> ok, please let us know once you try it
[14:40] <lordievader> Research the PAE kernel first though.
[14:40] <lordievader> I don't know what the consequenses are of that kernel, what is different, etc..
[14:43] <BluesKaj> I'm using 3g RAM , and haven't seen the swap used yet
[14:43] <BluesKaj> BTCOxygen, I think you won't see much difference at all between what is sen and 4G
[14:43] <BluesKaj> seen
[14:44] <lordievader> That is what I thought.
[14:46] <FlashDeluxe> my swap is used, 266M thats why i asked ;) I will reboot and see whats happening
[14:53] <BTCOxygen> I am running 64-bit of Kubuntu
[14:53] <BTCOxygen> So, no swap problems
[14:54] <BluesKaj> sorr BTCOxygen my suggestion should have been directed to flashdeluxe
[14:55]  * apachelogger notes that kubuntu's kernel has PAE enabled by default
[14:55] <apachelogger> unless they changed something, which I doubt
[15:01] <yofel> apachelogger: it does on >= 12.10
[15:01] <yofel> maybe even earlier, not sure how the 32bit default was handled there
[15:04] <apachelogger> 12.04 actually
[15:05] <apachelogger> yofel: 12.04 was the first version
[15:23] <mazurik> проверка
[17:40] <phalgun> Hello! When I try to install libiodbc2 using apt-get, I'm prompted to remove about 360mb of KDE applications
[17:40] <phalgun> http://paste.kde.org/648776/
[17:41] <phalgun> Any idea on what I'm doing wrong?
[17:48] <Torch> phalgun: my guess, it conflicts with anything that akonadi needs and thus removes akonadi, thus removing most of KDE
[17:48] <shadeslayer> you don't want libiodbc2
[17:48] <shadeslayer> iirc we switched to unixodbc-dev
[17:48] <shadeslayer> and everything is linked to unixodbc
[17:49] <shadeslayer> which conflicts with libiodbc2
[17:49] <phalgun> shadeslayer: i have unixodbc installed already
[17:49] <phalgun> libiodbc2 is required by soprano and hence nepomuk
[17:49] <shadeslayer> not really, you can build soprano with unixodbc
[17:50] <shadeslayer> you just need to patch it
[17:50] <shadeslayer> phalgun: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/soprano/raring/view/head:/debian/patches/no-odbc-dm
[17:51] <shadeslayer> just download and apply that
[17:52] <shadeslayer> phalgun: so, why are you building soprano/nepomuk from source?
[17:52] <phalgun> shadeslayer: working on the audio metadata support for nepomuk-core
[17:52] <shadeslayer> I see
[17:53] <shadeslayer> won't it be beneficial to just install project-neon and only compile nepomuk-core ?
[17:53] <shadeslayer> less time spent on compiling and more time spent on coding
[17:54] <phalgun> never used project-neon before. will give it a try if the patch doesn't work
[17:54] <shadeslayer> okay :)
[17:56] <shadeslayer> the fun bit is that I don't have to worry about deps and compiling everything from scratch, I just clone a project foo, do a simple : sudo apt-get build-dep project-neon-foo , and I'm all set
[17:57] <phalgun> shadeslayer: that is all? There should be a catch somewhere
[17:57] <shadeslayer> nope
[17:57] <shadeslayer> that really is all
[17:57] <shadeslayer> it even has scripts like neonmake which will auto set all cmake variables so that things are picked from /opt/project-neon
[17:57] <shadeslayer> !neon
[17:58] <shadeslayer> I offload all my builds to launchpad :P
[18:01] <phalgun> shadeslayer: the patch you gave me is for soprano 2.7.5
[18:01] <phalgun> guess it needs changes for 2.9.0
[18:01] <shadeslayer> should apply just fine to master?
[18:03] <phalgun> shadeslayer: the patch worked fine. but soprano still says it needs libiodbc
[18:04] <shadeslayer> !find lib/odbc/virtodbc_r.so
[18:04] <shadeslayer> phalgun: have you done : sudo apt-get build-dep soprano ?
[18:05] <phalgun> shadeslayer: have not.. was trying your build-dep for nepomuk-core directly
[18:05] <shadeslayer> well ... since you're also building soprano, you need to do : sudo apt-get build-dep soprano
[18:07] <phalgun> heh, i was expecting it to do a recursive dependency installation.
[18:07] <shadeslayer> hah, no
[18:07] <shadeslayer> if it were to do that, you'd end up installing alot of things
[18:08] <phalgun> true!
[18:10] <phalgun> shadeslayer: it worked. Thank you!
[18:10] <shadeslayer> np :)
[19:12] <ehlu> Hello i jusit installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu, how do i remove ubuntu, unity and all of its applications?
[19:13] <mydogsnameisrudy> ehlu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[19:14] <ehlu> mydogsnameisrudy: i use 12.10
[19:15] <ehlu> i tried this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[19:15] <shadeslayer> you could try sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop
[19:15] <ehlu> http://pastie.org/5698518
[19:16] <shadeslayer> well clearly that command is outdated ;)
[19:16] <MattRac> Hi everybody,
[19:16] <MattRac> Hope I can find some help here.
[19:16] <MattRac> To day, I upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04. At the end of the upgrade, there is a big list of packages that are proposed for removal. But it said it can take several hours to remove.
[19:16] <MattRac> I chosen to keep them but I'm facing some issues and I find removing these packages could help. Is there a log where I can find the list of this packages that were proposed for removal ?
[19:16] <MattRac> Thanks for help. ;-)
[19:16] <FloodBotK1> MattRac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:17] <shadeslayer> MattRac: have a look in /var/log
[19:17] <shadeslayer> it should have an upgrade log
[19:18] <shadeslayer> and in the upgrade log you should be able to find the packges it wanted to remove
[19:18] <MattRac> shadeslayer: I thought about /var/log/dist-upgrade/... but didn't find a clear list inside ;-)
[19:19] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:19] <shadeslayer> MattRac: just run sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:19] <shadeslayer> and it should remove orphaned packages
[19:20] <MattRac> shadeslayer: Don't work because they aren't orphans ;-)
[19:20] <MattRac> Just useless :-)
[19:21] <shadeslayer> dunno then xD
[19:21] <shadeslayer> maybe someone in #ubuntu can answer?
[19:24] <MattRac> shadeslayer: I'll try also ;-)
[22:05] <avihay> my mysql server fails to start. "start: Job failed to start" . can someone help me debug it? what file to pastebin?
[22:06] <swex> hi everybody
[22:07] <swex> help me please, why my wireless networking in network manager disabled by default after boot
[22:25] <DarthFrog> !purekde | ehlu
[22:56] <BarkingFish> evening guys - I really need help right now. My kde session is running somewhere between dead slow and stop, hard disk is being worked on 100% of the time, and I can't figure out what's doing it.
[22:56] <BarkingFish> Can someone please help me fix this?  At the moment, my rapid boot now takes 2m30s before I can use the dang desktop :(
[22:58] <BarkingFish> i've set kde to start with an empty session, which it's ignoring - i've tried killing everything in top which looks like it's using shedloads of memory, and still nothing is helping.
[23:00] <BarkingFish> evening bimini :) How is the home of the best crystal in the world this evening? :)
[23:03] <BarkingFish> it seems to be everything kde related which is slowing the machine down. i started the partition editor almost 10 minutes ago - it's running, but it's still not appeared on my desktop
[23:20] <mysteriousdarren> BarkingFish: figure anything out?