=== hggdh_AFK is now known as hggdh === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [05:52] I'm presently trying to trigger a script after I press the power button on my TF101.. I know the button's keycode from running "xev".. All I need is to know what what to put in the place of in xmodmap -e "keycode 142 = " [05:52] anyone's got an idea? [05:53] keycode is 124, by the way.. I inverted 2 numbers === ieatlint_ is now known as ieatlint === Sv is now known as discopig === Sv is now known as discopig [07:17] good morning [08:47] ogra_, janimo: do you think it'd make sense to do something ARM- or enablement-specific for UDW? we still have 3 open 30m slots: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable [08:47] dholbach, TBH the last ARM sessions did not seem very successful :) [08:48] either too techniocal or lack of hw makes people shy I guess [08:48] hrm [08:48] * janimo checks the session names [08:50] maybe it'd help to advertise it in ARM/mobile specific lists and so on [08:57] we only have ubuntu-devel as a ml AFAIK? [08:57] or you mean outside ubuntu? [09:00] wherever ARM/Ubuntu people hang out :) [09:04] dholbach, this is the only dedicated channel, the mailing list is ubuntu-devel as it pertains to ubuntu as a whole [09:04] ok [09:04] I am just not sure what ARM specific thing we could disucss because it would either be too technical [09:05] or if not, than not ARM specific [09:05] anything that is different on ARM should be low level details of plumbing and kernel which few people know or care about [09:09] I just wondered if it might be interesting to talk about how in general ubuntu is brought to a new device and everything is enabled, images made and so on - I mean you are the experts - there's a lot people don't know about what you do :) [09:09] that is true, cdimage people like ogra and infinity know most about making images [09:10] would be a nice session to hold if we had easy to use tools to roll your own image [09:10] but there is none, besides scripting together debotstraap or live-build and which makes it error prone [09:11] or maybe an overview over what the arm/mobile/device people do - just a description of the work that goes into it - there's a huge variety of things and it might be interesting to learn more about what's going on behind the scenes [09:11] (as an idea...) :) [09:11] I am mostly thinking about what session could we have that people walk away from with info they can apply [09:11] rather than just finding out trivia about ubuntu development :) [09:12] or at least that is what my impression was about the goals of open weeks, maybe I misunderstood partly :) [09:12] oh by the way, happy birthday [09:12] * janimo hugs dholbach [09:13] thanks a lot janimo :) [09:13] well what you do HAS to do with development :) [09:16] it is development sure, I am just thinking it is nowhere near as readily described and copied/applied as a topic on packaging for example [09:16] sure, but you always have that - some sessions are hands-on, clear-cut, others are an introduction to what a team is doing which might generate more interest [09:16] I wonder why no QML/phone SDK sessions there though [09:17] I am just basing my belief on the ARM FTBFS session I gave last year where I think only you asked a question to break the awkward silence :) [09:47] janimo, I just thought that with all the great stuff coming up regarding Ubuntu on ARM there must be a story we can tell [09:47] at least one [09:47] :) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [10:29] dholbach, putr me in, i'll make something up about image building (and re-packing the nx7 image) [10:30] ogra_, 30m? 1h? Thu 31st Jan - 17:30 UTC? [10:31] 30m for a "talk" plus 30 for Q&A ? [10:31] ogra saves the ARM team's honor again. \o/ [10:31] not sure i can fill the second half [10:31] heh [10:32] * ogra_ goes afk to shovel a ton of snow ... *sigh* [10:37] ogra_, thanks a bunch! I'll put you in there [11:18] ogra_: what type of rootfs image for nexus7 ? squashfs? [11:21] reisei, ext4 last time I installed [11:22] it is not a live image but a form of preinstalled - last I checked at least === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun [11:27] janimo: thanks. [12:24] hi is there a distro image available i would like to install buntu to my superpad but unsure on how to go about it anyhelp would be appreciated === jkridner_ is now known as jkridner === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:19] infinity: can you take a look at alsa-{lib,utils} in {precise,quantal}-proposed queue and accept them? === jkridner_ is now known as jkridner [14:00] meh nexus7 needs charging. === dannf` is now known as dannf [15:58] Anyone know if there is ubuntu distro available for IMX6Q Sabrelite board? [15:59] focus_well, iirc linaro has ubuntu images for it, ask in #linaro [16:02] ogra_: that was my first destination but they say they discontinue it and there are no distros to download from their Sabrelite web site https://wiki.linaro.org/Boards/MX6QSabreLite [16:03] ah, well, we never had an mx6 image in ubuntu [16:03] there were mx5 ones but they wont run on mx6 [16:04] I am hoping to make something from sources for mx6 - are there going to be big problems (not expert at this)? [16:05] pardon my ignorance, can the sources for mx5 be worked on to make it work on mx6? [16:06] or is it down to lack of documentation that keeps mx6 from a decent ubuntu supported CPU? [16:07] The iMX6Q (quad core) has come down in price to about $20 - opens up a lo of possibilities. [16:08] mx5 cant be made to work on mx6 [16:08] well, the images cant, you will need a different u-boot and kernel [16:09] ogra_: Ah! So its just documentation and compiling to march mx5 into mx6? [16:09] i know ppisati looked into addint devicetree support for mx6 to our current raring kernel, not sure where he got his image from exactly [16:09] (for the userspace) [16:12] Saberlite did come with some sort of Linux, so if I got hold of the sources for that, I'd be able to compare and work out what to do? [16:12] quad core for $20? that is crazy Oo [16:13] focus_well, indeed, yes [16:13] you could also make something up on top of ubuntu-core if you are experienced [16:13] Tassadar: http://uk.farnell.com/freescale-semiconductor/mcimx6q5eym10ac/mpu-i-mx6-quad-1ghz-624fcbga/dp/2253171 [16:13] the sabre is an awesome board [16:14] and ++ for actual SATA [16:14] oh, I thought you meant the whole board [16:15] ogra_: I am in the game to make an open source KiCAD SO-DIMM board with the iMX6Q and release it free of charge [16:15] ogra_: I would say -- for freescale [16:16] I have a feeling that freescale produces cpus and do not care at all about supporting them [16:16] depends how you define support [16:17] if your definition is release a half finished BSP and move on to the next project, then they actually do support it :P [16:18] ogra_: so its possible to just copy the circuit of the Sabrelite which is available online - chop unecessary bits (just have micro SD to boot + RAM + minimal bits) and then make the rest of the pins available out through the 200 pin SO-DIMM edge connector + fpc connectors. [16:18] ogra_: ;DD [16:18] ogra_: that's their definition indeed [16:18] :) [16:19] Tassadar: Sorry I meant chip price is $20 for quad core. Dual and single core chips probably a lot cheaper [16:20] I already try to start project with AllWinner A10 CPU - but their lack of documentation is putting the whole thing through sticky syrup [16:20] focus_well: who cares about single/dual when quad is 20$? [16:20] Now that the quad core is $20, I'm thinking the AllWinner at $10 is not competitive [16:21] hrw, makes of industrial stuff probably [16:21] *makers [16:21] So if I make a SO-DIMM board, with quad core, and release all the circuit diagrams in KiCAD which is free for anyone to use, they can make their variants and sell it or whatever [16:21] if your 600MHz beagle B1 like chip is capable enough you wont use any dual core solution [16:21] But I need Ubuntu ported to it. What are my realistic prospects? [16:22] for running some sensors in your factory or whatever [16:22] focus_well, well, userspace will just run OOTB [16:22] you need to make up the kernel and bootloader bits for it though [16:23] I wanted to have a proper tablet like computer with a speech and touch LCD with lots of GPIO pins and completely working open sourced KiCAD drawings and PCB so that anyone can go make product with it free of charge. [16:24] Is like an actuall datasheet available for that processor? [16:25] I plan to port Gambas IDE so a Visual basic like software runs on the CPU + espeak - so the thing doesn't need any buttons - it accepts inputs from buttons designed on Gambas programs, and output is visual + voice [16:26] intresting project [16:26] focus_well: that seems like a pretty expensive thing to build [16:26] I already do all that work in software for cheap A10 matchbox computer - http://www.gplsquared.com/mk802/mk802.html [16:26] I got stuck trying to get sources for all that Linux and datasheets for the A10. [16:26] Dragging on 6 months [16:27] A10 is crap [16:27] * ogra_ isnt a fan ... [16:27] These days the CPU + display + RAM etc under $30 BOM costs [16:28] surely it's better than the Pi chip? [16:28] even the touchscreens? Oo [16:28] which is the competition in that price bracket [16:28] wookey, my ipaq is better than the Pi chip :P [16:28] Touch screen $7 for 4.3" - $13 for 7" [16:29] * Tassadar is looking at the pi which is quetly sitting on his router, working as a dlna server [16:29] wau, that is quite low Oo [16:29] hmm [16:30] Tassadar: CN factory prices - need to order 1000+ usually to get prices like that [16:31] that CPU can't be soldered by hand, you need board made in factory...that kinda limits the "everyone can make one" [16:32] So if I commit to make an iMX6Q board, is there a good chance by the end of the year I can get the software working? [16:32] well, as i said, the userspace should work OOTB [16:33] depends how well you can work out bootloader and kernel for your device [16:33] Tassadar: just need a reflow oven - about $600 or less [16:33] ogra_: What does 00TB mean? [16:33] out of the box [16:34] ubuntu userspace will run on pretty much every armv7 SoC [16:34] Ah! I get it - so all I need is command line to be working on the board and the rest is just userspace?!?!?!? [16:34] no, you need a kernel and a bootloader that work [16:34] comand-line _is_ userspace -) [16:34] Herzlich Willkommen in der Freiheit! Kein Kick Kein Ban nur Fun! lg Lukas #ubuntu-de-offtopiic [16:34] OK [16:35] the bootloader boots, loads the kernel, the kernel gets executed and then mounts the root filesystem which contains the usersapce [16:35] the last bit here will just work [16:35] OK [16:35] everything before the mounting needs to come from you (or someone) [16:36] OK - the boot loader - might be able to rework this - http://www.eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/i.MX6x+SABRE+Lite [16:37] Compiling and getting the kernel to work will then be the hardest of the hardest part - I can spend months on it if that is what it takes [16:42] Thanks guys for the chat. === XenGi is now known as XenGi_ === XorA is now known as XorA-gone === XorA-gone is now known as XorA