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| dholbach | good morning | 07:17 |
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| * popey hugs dholbach | 07:19 | |
| popey | missed you! | 07:19 |
| * dholbach hugs popey back :) | 07:19 | |
| dholbach | I missed you guys too :) | 07:20 |
| popey | \o/ | 07:20 |
| dholbach | although I have to admit... I could have easily stayed longer :-D | 07:20 |
| popey | heh | 07:20 |
| nigelb | dholbach: Happy Birthday! | 07:43 |
| dholbach | thanks nigelb :) | 07:45 |
| nigelb | popey: Are you going to be in London in the next 3 weeks? | 07:46 |
| dholbach | JoseeAntonioR, 3 open slots left: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable | 08:43 |
| * czajkowski hugs dholbach you're back! | 08:59 | |
| czajkowski | In London this morning - https://twitter.com/craiglet/status/291458207577153536/photo/1 | 08:59 |
| * dholbach hugs czajkowski back :) | 08:59 | |
| dholbach | ugh :/ | 09:00 |
| czajkowski | dholbach: that was too long! | 09:00 |
| dholbach | no, quite the opposite :) | 09:01 |
| czajkowski | heh | 09:02 |
| czajkowski | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21040410 | 09:25 |
| bkerensa | good morning dholbach czajkowski | 09:36 |
| dholbach | hi bkerensa | 09:46 |
| dholbach | JoseeAntonioR, 1 session slot left :) | 10:53 |
| daker | czajkowski: Skyfall :) | 11:41 |
| dpm | hey dholbach! Welcome back! | 12:09 |
| dholbach | thanks dpm :) | 12:09 |
| dpm | dholbach, I hope you've got lots of pictures for the Friday demo day ;) | 12:10 |
| dholbach | haha, yes | 12:10 |
| dpm | nice | 12:10 |
| dholbach | uploaded some of them already :) | 12:10 |
| dholbach | dpm, just listening to your latest end-of-the-world mix | 12:11 |
| dholbach | good stuff! :) | 12:11 |
| dpm | ah, cool, glad you like it :) | 12:11 |
| dpm | I'm djing again this Friday | 12:11 |
| dholbach | and I'll DJ on Saturday :) | 12:11 |
| dholbach | can't wait | 12:11 |
| dpm | excellent :) | 12:11 |
| dholbach | man, the state of my inbox is depressing | 12:14 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, how depressing???? | 12:18 |
| dholbach | sufficiently, but not too much :) | 12:19 |
| smartboyhw | I have a web speed that is depressing (due to downloading Android source code) | 12:23 |
| smartboyhw | Estimated finishing time: 18 minutes | 12:23 |
| smartboyhw | Grrrr | 12:23 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, I got 4603 emails piled up in the past three weeks. I only cleared it yesterday evening | 12:23 |
| dholbach | wow | 12:37 |
| czajkowski | like me and bug mail over xmas | 12:39 |
| czajkowski | as automatically subscriped to lp bugs and branch reviews | 12:39 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, see?:P | 12:42 |
| smartboyhw | Quite strange from a 14-year-old | 12:42 |
| smartboyhw | True though:( | 12:42 |
| cprofitt | bkerensa: cnet? | 14:10 |
| JoseeAntonioR | hey, dholbach! (wb, btw) filled that slot? | 14:37 |
| dholbach | JoseeAntonioR, no, still there | 14:37 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable | 14:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | maybe someone who can quickly explain what's the development process for phone apps? | 14:38 |
| dholbach | yeah, although that'd fit a bit better into UADW probably | 14:39 |
| JoseeAntonioR | right | 14:39 |
| JoseeAntonioR | maybe something about how translations and launchpad work? | 14:40 |
| JoseeAntonioR | or something related to all launchpad tools | 14:42 |
| SergioMeneses | dholbach, is here! \o | 14:43 |
| dholbach | hey SergioMeneses :) | 14:43 |
| JoseeAntonioR | we were all missing him | 14:43 |
| JoseeAntonioR | HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DHOLBACH! | 14:43 |
| * dholbach hugs you all :) | 14:44 | |
| dholbach | thanks JoseeAntonioR :) | 14:44 |
| * JoseeAntonioR hugs back | 14:44 | |
| * SergioMeneses brings cake! | 14:44 | |
| JoseeAntonioR | idea! quick tutorial with topic 'you can fix bitesize too!' | 14:48 |
| dholbach | JoseeAntonioR, yes, that'd be great | 15:22 |
| JoseeAntonioR | now we need to find someone who can do it | 15:22 |
| jcastro | whoa | 15:36 |
| jcastro | dholbach is back!!! | 15:36 |
| dholbach | hey jcastro :) | 15:36 |
| dholbach | jcastro, regarding the mail from Will about the Juju store - is there anything for me left to do? | 15:59 |
| dholbach | (I don't know anything about it, but was CCed in.) | 15:59 |
| jcastro | not afaict | 15:59 |
| dholbach | ok cool | 15:59 |
| jcastro | Kapil and him discussed everything | 15:59 |
| mhall119 | dholbach is back \o/ | 16:00 |
| * dholbach hugs mhall119 | 16:00 | |
| dholbach | are we having a team call? | 16:00 |
| mhall119 | have a good trip? | 16:00 |
| * mhall119 is on the phone with the ped's atm, but I'm up for a hangout | 16:01 | |
| jcastro | me too | 16:01 |
| dholbach | mhall119, it was great :) | 16:01 |
| jcastro | I want to virtually hug dholbach | 16:01 |
| dholbach | starting the hangout | 16:01 |
| balloons | hehe | 16:02 |
| * balloons hugs dholbach | 16:02 | |
| dholbach | hey balloons | 16:02 |
| balloons | I was holdng my excitement of your return in.. ;-) | 16:03 |
| dholbach | hope you're not going to explode :) | 16:03 |
| balloons | I exploded.. | 16:13 |
| balloons | the hangout bug is still here :-( | 16:13 |
| dholbach | balloons, did you see didrocks post? | 16:15 |
| dholbach | http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Getting-sound-working-during-a-hangout-in-raring | 16:15 |
| * balloons goes to look | 16:17 | |
| balloons | dholbach, a little bird tells me it's your birthday? | 16:57 |
| dholbach | balloons, your bird looks well-informed :) | 16:59 |
| balloons | dholbach, a most wonderful birthday to you! | 17:02 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot balloons! | 17:09 |
| jussi | hey dholbach! Happy birthday! | 17:22 |
| dholbach | thanks jussi | 17:25 |
| dholbach | all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! | 17:29 |
| dholbach | daker, شكرا :) | 17:29 |
| daker | :) | 17:30 |
| Mez | Hi all, any update on when the Global Jam for Raring will be? | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | I proposed Feb 22-24 for a nice time QA-wise, but I don't know if they ever decided on anything | 20:47 |
| Mez | being harassed at work "when's the next one?" seems they liked it. (and need to book out conference centre) | 20:48 |
| balloons | mhall119, jcastro, is there a way to sign a package with a team as a maintainer, or do I have to be the maintainer? | 22:08 |
| balloons | I trust that makes sense.. I can't builddeb without being able to sign with a valid gpg key.. but of course I don't have a key for a "team" | 22:09 |
| cjohnston | balloons: just put that the maintainer is the team | 22:09 |
| cjohnston | your the uploader in this situation | 22:09 |
| cjohnston | afaik | 22:09 |
| balloons | Now signing changes and any dsc files... | 22:10 |
| balloons | signfile ubuntu-autopilot-tests_0.10ubuntu1-1.dsc Ubuntu Quality Team <ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com> | 22:10 |
| balloons | gpg: skipped "Ubuntu Quality Team <ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com>": secret key not available | 22:10 |
| balloons | gpg: /tmp/debsign.hpINwOam/ubuntu-autopilot-tests_0.10ubuntu1-1.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available | 22:10 |
| balloons | debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... | 22:10 |
| balloons | debuild: fatal error at line 1278: | 22:10 |
| balloons | running debsign failed | 22:10 |
| paultag | balloons: use -k | 22:10 |
| mhall119 | -k with your personal key id | 22:10 |
| balloons | paultag, I'm building with bzr bd, I don't see a -k | 22:11 |
| paultag | balloons: use -uc -us # and use debsign by hand | 22:11 |
| mhall119 | I *think* you can do "bzr bd -- -k $keyid" | 22:11 |
| paultag | or that | 22:11 |
| * balloons rattles head | 22:11 | |
| mhall119 | or set an env variable with your key id | 22:11 |
| balloons | ok, that makes sense.. | 22:11 |
| balloons | heh | 22:11 |
| balloons | let me try | 22:11 |
| mhall119 | paultag: what's the env, do you know off the top of your head? | 22:11 |
| paultag | mhall119: DEBSIGN_MAINT | 22:12 |
| paultag | or DEBSIGN_KEYID | 22:12 |
| mhall119 | DEBSIGN_KEYID, that's the one I use | 22:12 |
| mhall119 | mhall@mhall-thinkpad:~$ cat ~/.devscripts | 22:12 |
| mhall119 | DEBSIGN_KEYID=8981F572 | 22:12 |
| mhall119 | balloons: ^^ | 22:12 |
| mhall119 | I'm pretty sure bzr bd will use what's in ~/.devscripts | 22:13 |
| paultag | (or bashrc ;) ) | 22:13 |
| balloons | hmm.. yea, my stuff is in bashrc now | 22:13 |
| mhall119 | or there, but then you only get it if you're running bash | 22:13 |
| paultag | aye | 22:13 |
| balloons | why would I run anything else :-p | 22:13 |
| mhall119 | maybe you wouldn't be running it from a shell :P | 22:13 |
| paultag | wait, this is community-team, why am I in here | 22:14 |
| paultag | oh god autojoin | 22:14 |
| paultag | hey guys | 22:14 |
| mhall119 | ah hah ahah | 22:15 |
| mhall119 | you can't escape us paultag | 22:15 |
| paultag | :) | 22:15 |
| balloons | lol | 22:16 |
| balloons | I appreciate the help | 22:16 |
| paultag | np brotato | 22:16 |
| balloons | ok, I cheated for a min and built without signing | 22:16 |
| paultag | (if you're a dude, otherwise something else there) | 22:17 |
| balloons | yes, I am male :-) | 22:17 |
| paultag | then brotato stands | 22:18 |
| * balloons increments the 'mistaken for a female on irc' counter | 22:18 | |
| paultag | no, it's a neutral name and I didn't want to make that mistake. | 22:18 |
| balloons | lol | 22:18 |
| balloons | sidebar story: I worked with some folks for like 6 months on another community oss project | 22:18 |
| balloons | we finally all met in person at a conference, and they were shocked to learn I was male | 22:19 |
| balloons | apparently between my name and speech, I was clearly female? | 22:19 |
| balloons | sidebar off | 22:19 |
| paultag | haha | 22:19 |
| balloons | context for the joke.. anyways, it happens.. best to not assume etheir way :-) | 22:20 |
| * mhall119 is shocked to learn that balloons is male | 22:20 | |
| * balloons falls off chair | 22:20 | |
| * mhall119 is even more shocked to see somebody actually say "brotato" | 22:20 | |
| paultag | (clearly not serious) | 22:21 |
| mhall119 | then again, it took me years to realize that jcastro was actually a robot | 22:21 |
| paultag | .oO(brobot) | 22:22 |
| balloons | totally.. | 22:23 |
| balloons | mhall119, paultag .. ok, had some other issues to work out, but I can't get -k to work | 22:52 |
| mhall119 | balloons: use DEBSIGN_KEYID instead of -k | 22:53 |
| balloons | i place it in bashrc and source it | 22:53 |
| balloons | with the -k, I get: | 22:54 |
| balloons | debsign: Must be run from top of source dir or a .changes file given as arg | 22:54 |
| balloons | I could send the it the .changes, if I knew how | 22:55 |
| mhall119 | balloons: what are you trying to sign and for what reason? | 22:55 |
| balloons | a new package for a new ppa | 22:56 |
| mhall119 | so you need a signed source package to dput? | 22:56 |
| balloons | yes | 22:57 |
| balloons | I made an unsigned deb.. looks good in lintlian | 22:57 |
| balloons | installs ok | 22:58 |
| Mez | balloons: debsign -kyourkeyid *.changes | 22:58 |
| balloons | now I want to test it in pbuilder and dput it up :-) | 22:58 |
| Mez | But the changelog entry should really have your name/email - rather than the teams :) | 22:59 |
| balloons | yay, it worked | 23:00 |
| balloons | mez, yes, that was really the source of the question | 23:00 |
| balloons | I wanted the team to stay as maintainer | 23:00 |
| balloons | I could overwrite the changelog as myself | 23:00 |
| Mez | control specifies who the maintainer is :) It's not particularly important as it gets overriden in ubuntu anyway :) | 23:00 |
| Mez | (though that may only be for non-ubuntu-specific packages) | 23:01 |
| Mez | the changelog will get parsed for who to send notifications regarding ACCEPT or REJECTs though aswell as some other things. | 23:01 |
| Mez | The only other consideration is if it's a debian package rather than an ubuntu one - where it has to have a specific version numbering (upstream-debian.point) and mention it's an NMU | 23:02 |
| Mez | or have you listed in the control under uploaders/maintainer | 23:02 |
| balloons | at this point it's just attempting to get into the ppa | 23:03 |
| balloons | but yes, this will stay a ubuntu only package once it hits the wild | 23:04 |
| balloons | it has ubuntu tests in it.. perhaps debian would be interested, but ? | 23:04 |
| mhall119 | balloons: can you just re-run "bzr bd -S"? | 23:05 |
| balloons | yay! it's uploading.. | 23:06 |
| mhall119 | \o/ | 23:06 |
| balloons | ok, now to somehow figure out how this happened again | 23:06 |
| balloons | and why it differed from last time ;-( | 23:07 |
| mhall119 | tail ~/.bash_history | 23:07 |
| balloons | thanks to all | 23:07 |
| Mez | balloons: personally, if it's not available in debian - then I'll upload it to debian - always good to have a canonical - espescially if you can build it so it works for both, and maintain it in one place :) | 23:07 |
| balloons | Mez, nothing preventing it.. I'll keep that in mind when we go to push it in | 23:07 |
| Mez | balloons: what is it ? | 23:07 |
| balloons | right now it harldy belongs in a ppa ;-0 | 23:08 |
| balloons | haha | 23:08 |
| balloons | automated tests | 23:08 |
| Mez | for ? | 23:08 |
| balloons | using autopilot specifically | 23:08 |
| balloons | for the default desktop applicatons | 23:08 |
| Mez | hmm... drop me an email (mez AT debian.org or mez AT ubuntu.com) when you're done - will have a look and see whether it's something I'm willing to sponsor for debian | 23:09 |
| balloons | thanks mez! | 23:09 |
| mhall119 | Mez: while you're at it, how about uploading all of Unity ;) | 23:09 |
| balloons | is autopilot itself in debian? if not, it certainly could be.. it's a seperate package from unity mnow | 23:09 |
| Mez | np - though - my stuff mainly centres around server based stuff - so might not be the best idea | 23:09 |
| balloons | but these would require it ofc | 23:10 |
| Mez | mhall119: Make it work with an nvidia quadro and 3 screens and I'll consider it :P | 23:10 |
| Mez | currently stuck on lucid at work due to unity :( | 23:10 |
| mhall119 | :( | 23:10 |
| mhall119 | buy Intel | 23:10 |
| Mez | mhall119: do they make a sensible solution for 3/4 screens on a single PC? | 23:11 |
| Mez | (all HDMI) | 23:11 |
| mhall119 | three fourths of a screen? | 23:12 |
| Mez | 3 or 4 | 23:12 |
| mhall119 | oh | 23:12 |
| mhall119 | I saw them working on usability on multiple screens, but don't have any myself to try it on | 23:12 |
| mhall119 | is your issue usability, or hardware support? | 23:13 |
| Mez | both | 23:13 |
| balloons | I had good usablity with precise on multi monitor | 23:13 |
| mhall119 | usability should be there (I hope) | 23:13 |
| Mez | usability is ... ok | 23:13 |
| balloons | I've since gone to one big one :-) | 23:13 |
| Mez | (but that's personal preference) | 23:13 |
| mhall119 | nVidia support, well, ask Linus how that goes :) | 23:13 |
| Mez | balloons: I have 3 26" monitors on my workstation | 23:13 |
| balloons | nice! | 23:13 |
| Mez | mhall119: lucid works with the 3... precise doesn't | 23:13 |
| Mez | balloons: switching to 4 soon. | 23:14 |
| balloons | hehe | 23:14 |
| balloons | I like the simplitcity of only one now | 23:14 |
| mhall119 | Mez: you know there's this cool thing call workspaces | 23:14 |
| balloons | but we'll see | 23:14 |
| Mez | mhall119: yes - which I use :) | 23:15 |
| mhall119 | just checking ;) | 23:15 |
| Mez | Screen 1: Browsers. Screen 2: Code/Image manipulation, Screen 3: Consoles/Systems Overview/Feeds/Other stuff | 23:16 |
| Mez | Screen 3 is getting cluttered. | 23:17 |
| Mez | I need to see all these things at a movement of the eye as part of my day by day job | 23:17 |
| Mez | Home - I can deal with 2. | 23:17 |
| mhall119 | ctrl-alt-(left|right), saves me the eye and neck movement | 23:17 |
| Mez | ah, but - that means I can't be alerted by the big thing flashing red on screen 3. | 23:18 |
| mhall119 | then again, I have one 12.5" screen too, and that's enough for me | 23:18 |
| Mez | it means I can't compare the HTML to what's on the page | 23:18 |
| Mez | It means I can't see when someone pings me on IRC :P | 23:18 |
| * mhall119 does that all the time | 23:18 | |
| mhall119 | that's what indicators and launcher are for | 23:19 |
| mhall119 | and notifyosd | 23:19 |
| Mez | notifyosd is ok - but doesn't let me, for example, see a graph spiking (I have to write some elaborate code to see that something is spinking and notify me) | 23:20 |
| Mez | it's all about the fingerspitzgefuhlen :) | 23:20 |
| cjohnston | 40 | 23:20 |
| Mez | http://goo.gl/wkr8Q <-- my current workstation during a break on a seperate viewport than the ones I usually use (hence a blank screen 3) | 23:21 |
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