=== hggdh_AFK is now known as hggdh === imbrando1 is now known as nodnaebmi [07:17] good morning [07:19] * popey hugs dholbach [07:19] missed you! [07:19] * dholbach hugs popey back :) [07:20] I missed you guys too :) [07:20] \o/ [07:20] although I have to admit... I could have easily stayed longer :-D [07:20] heh [07:43] dholbach: Happy Birthday! [07:45] thanks nigelb :) [07:46] popey: Are you going to be in London in the next 3 weeks? [08:43] JoseeAntonioR, 3 open slots left: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable [08:59] * czajkowski hugs dholbach you're back! [08:59] In London this morning - https://twitter.com/craiglet/status/291458207577153536/photo/1 [08:59] * dholbach hugs czajkowski back :) [09:00] ugh :/ [09:00] dholbach: that was too long! [09:01] no, quite the opposite :) [09:02] heh [09:25] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21040410 [09:36] good morning dholbach czajkowski [09:46] hi bkerensa [10:53] JoseeAntonioR, 1 session slot left :) [11:41] czajkowski: Skyfall :) [12:09] hey dholbach! Welcome back! [12:09] thanks dpm :) [12:10] dholbach, I hope you've got lots of pictures for the Friday demo day ;) [12:10] haha, yes [12:10] nice [12:10] uploaded some of them already :) [12:11] dpm, just listening to your latest end-of-the-world mix [12:11] good stuff! :) [12:11] ah, cool, glad you like it :) [12:11] I'm djing again this Friday [12:11] and I'll DJ on Saturday :) [12:11] can't wait [12:11] excellent :) [12:14] man, the state of my inbox is depressing [12:18] dholbach, how depressing???? [12:19] sufficiently, but not too much :) [12:23] I have a web speed that is depressing (due to downloading Android source code) [12:23] Estimated finishing time: 18 minutes [12:23] Grrrr [12:23] dholbach, I got 4603 emails piled up in the past three weeks. I only cleared it yesterday evening [12:37] wow [12:39] like me and bug mail over xmas [12:39] as automatically subscriped to lp bugs and branch reviews [12:42] dholbach, see?:P [12:42] Quite strange from a 14-year-old [12:42] True though:( [14:10] bkerensa: cnet? [14:37] hey, dholbach! (wb, btw) filled that slot? [14:37] JoseeAntonioR, no, still there [14:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable [14:38] maybe someone who can quickly explain what's the development process for phone apps? [14:39] yeah, although that'd fit a bit better into UADW probably [14:39] right [14:40] maybe something about how translations and launchpad work? [14:42] or something related to all launchpad tools [14:43] dholbach, is here! \o [14:43] hey SergioMeneses :) [14:43] we were all missing him [14:43] HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DHOLBACH! [14:44] * dholbach hugs you all :) [14:44] thanks JoseeAntonioR :) [14:44] * JoseeAntonioR hugs back [14:44] * SergioMeneses brings cake! [14:48] idea! quick tutorial with topic 'you can fix bitesize too!' [15:22] JoseeAntonioR, yes, that'd be great [15:22] now we need to find someone who can do it [15:36] whoa [15:36] dholbach is back!!! [15:36] hey jcastro :) [15:59] jcastro, regarding the mail from Will about the Juju store - is there anything for me left to do? [15:59] (I don't know anything about it, but was CCed in.) [15:59] not afaict [15:59] ok cool [15:59] Kapil and him discussed everything [16:00] dholbach is back \o/ [16:00] * dholbach hugs mhall119 [16:00] are we having a team call? [16:00] have a good trip? [16:01] * mhall119 is on the phone with the ped's atm, but I'm up for a hangout [16:01] me too [16:01] mhall119, it was great :) [16:01] I want to virtually hug dholbach [16:01] starting the hangout [16:02] hehe [16:02] * balloons hugs dholbach [16:02] hey balloons [16:03] I was holdng my excitement of your return in.. ;-) [16:03] hope you're not going to explode :) [16:13] I exploded.. [16:13] the hangout bug is still here :-( [16:15] balloons, did you see didrocks post? [16:15] http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Getting-sound-working-during-a-hangout-in-raring [16:17] * balloons goes to look [16:57] dholbach, a little bird tells me it's your birthday? [16:59] balloons, your bird looks well-informed :) [17:02] dholbach, a most wonderful birthday to you! [17:09] thanks a lot balloons! [17:22] hey dholbach! Happy birthday! [17:25] thanks jussi [17:29] all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! [17:29] daker, شكرا :) [17:30] :) [20:46] Hi all, any update on when the Global Jam for Raring will be? [20:47] I proposed Feb 22-24 for a nice time QA-wise, but I don't know if they ever decided on anything [20:48] being harassed at work "when's the next one?" seems they liked it. (and need to book out conference centre) [22:08] mhall119, jcastro, is there a way to sign a package with a team as a maintainer, or do I have to be the maintainer? [22:09] I trust that makes sense.. I can't builddeb without being able to sign with a valid gpg key.. but of course I don't have a key for a "team" [22:09] balloons: just put that the maintainer is the team [22:09] your the uploader in this situation [22:09] afaik [22:10] Now signing changes and any dsc files... [22:10] signfile ubuntu-autopilot-tests_0.10ubuntu1-1.dsc Ubuntu Quality Team [22:10] gpg: skipped "Ubuntu Quality Team ": secret key not available [22:10] gpg: /tmp/debsign.hpINwOam/ubuntu-autopilot-tests_0.10ubuntu1-1.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available [22:10] debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... [22:10] debuild: fatal error at line 1278: [22:10] running debsign failed [22:10] balloons: use -k [22:10] -k with your personal key id [22:11] paultag, I'm building with bzr bd, I don't see a -k [22:11] balloons: use -uc -us # and use debsign by hand [22:11] I *think* you can do "bzr bd -- -k $keyid" [22:11] or that [22:11] * balloons rattles head [22:11] or set an env variable with your key id [22:11] ok, that makes sense.. [22:11] heh [22:11] let me try [22:11] paultag: what's the env, do you know off the top of your head? [22:12] mhall119: DEBSIGN_MAINT [22:12] or DEBSIGN_KEYID [22:12] DEBSIGN_KEYID, that's the one I use [22:12] mhall@mhall-thinkpad:~$ cat ~/.devscripts [22:12] DEBSIGN_KEYID=8981F572 [22:12] balloons: ^^ [22:13] I'm pretty sure bzr bd will use what's in ~/.devscripts [22:13] (or bashrc ;) ) [22:13] hmm.. yea, my stuff is in bashrc now [22:13] or there, but then you only get it if you're running bash [22:13] aye [22:13] why would I run anything else :-p [22:13] maybe you wouldn't be running it from a shell :P [22:14] wait, this is community-team, why am I in here [22:14] oh god autojoin [22:14] hey guys [22:15] ah hah ahah [22:15] you can't escape us paultag [22:15] :) [22:16] lol [22:16] I appreciate the help [22:16] np brotato [22:16] ok, I cheated for a min and built without signing [22:17] (if you're a dude, otherwise something else there) [22:17] yes, I am male :-) [22:18] then brotato stands [22:18] * balloons increments the 'mistaken for a female on irc' counter [22:18] no, it's a neutral name and I didn't want to make that mistake. [22:18] lol [22:18] sidebar story: I worked with some folks for like 6 months on another community oss project [22:19] we finally all met in person at a conference, and they were shocked to learn I was male [22:19] apparently between my name and speech, I was clearly female? [22:19] sidebar off [22:19] haha [22:20] context for the joke.. anyways, it happens.. best to not assume etheir way :-) [22:20] * mhall119 is shocked to learn that balloons is male [22:20] * balloons falls off chair [22:20] * mhall119 is even more shocked to see somebody actually say "brotato" [22:21] (clearly not serious) [22:21] then again, it took me years to realize that jcastro was actually a robot [22:22] .oO(brobot) [22:23] totally.. [22:52] mhall119, paultag .. ok, had some other issues to work out, but I can't get -k to work [22:53] balloons: use DEBSIGN_KEYID instead of -k [22:53] i place it in bashrc and source it [22:54] with the -k, I get: [22:54] debsign: Must be run from top of source dir or a .changes file given as arg [22:55] I could send the it the .changes, if I knew how [22:55] balloons: what are you trying to sign and for what reason? [22:56] a new package for a new ppa [22:56] so you need a signed source package to dput? [22:57] yes [22:57] I made an unsigned deb.. looks good in lintlian [22:58] installs ok [22:58] balloons: debsign -kyourkeyid *.changes [22:58] now I want to test it in pbuilder and dput it up :-) [22:59] But the changelog entry should really have your name/email - rather than the teams :) [23:00] yay, it worked [23:00] mez, yes, that was really the source of the question [23:00] I wanted the team to stay as maintainer [23:00] I could overwrite the changelog as myself [23:00] control specifies who the maintainer is :) It's not particularly important as it gets overriden in ubuntu anyway :) [23:01] (though that may only be for non-ubuntu-specific packages) [23:01] the changelog will get parsed for who to send notifications regarding ACCEPT or REJECTs though aswell as some other things. [23:02] The only other consideration is if it's a debian package rather than an ubuntu one - where it has to have a specific version numbering (upstream-debian.point) and mention it's an NMU [23:02] or have you listed in the control under uploaders/maintainer [23:03] at this point it's just attempting to get into the ppa [23:04] but yes, this will stay a ubuntu only package once it hits the wild [23:04] it has ubuntu tests in it.. perhaps debian would be interested, but ? [23:05] balloons: can you just re-run "bzr bd -S"? [23:06] yay! it's uploading.. [23:06] \o/ [23:06] ok, now to somehow figure out how this happened again [23:07] and why it differed from last time ;-( [23:07] tail ~/.bash_history [23:07] thanks to all [23:07] balloons: personally, if it's not available in debian - then I'll upload it to debian - always good to have a canonical - espescially if you can build it so it works for both, and maintain it in one place :) [23:07] Mez, nothing preventing it.. I'll keep that in mind when we go to push it in [23:07] balloons: what is it ? [23:08] right now it harldy belongs in a ppa ;-0 [23:08] haha [23:08] automated tests [23:08] for ? [23:08] using autopilot specifically [23:08] for the default desktop applicatons [23:09] hmm... drop me an email (mez AT debian.org or mez AT ubuntu.com) when you're done - will have a look and see whether it's something I'm willing to sponsor for debian [23:09] thanks mez! [23:09] Mez: while you're at it, how about uploading all of Unity ;) [23:09] is autopilot itself in debian? if not, it certainly could be.. it's a seperate package from unity mnow [23:09] np - though - my stuff mainly centres around server based stuff - so might not be the best idea [23:10] but these would require it ofc [23:10] mhall119: Make it work with an nvidia quadro and 3 screens and I'll consider it :P [23:10] currently stuck on lucid at work due to unity :( [23:10] :( [23:10] buy Intel [23:11] mhall119: do they make a sensible solution for 3/4 screens on a single PC? [23:11] (all HDMI) [23:12] three fourths of a screen? [23:12] 3 or 4 [23:12] oh [23:12] I saw them working on usability on multiple screens, but don't have any myself to try it on [23:13] is your issue usability, or hardware support? [23:13] both [23:13] I had good usablity with precise on multi monitor [23:13] usability should be there (I hope) [23:13] usability is ... ok [23:13] I've since gone to one big one :-) [23:13] (but that's personal preference) [23:13] nVidia support, well, ask Linus how that goes :) [23:13] balloons: I have 3 26" monitors on my workstation [23:13] nice! [23:13] mhall119: lucid works with the 3... precise doesn't [23:14] balloons: switching to 4 soon. [23:14] hehe [23:14] I like the simplitcity of only one now [23:14] Mez: you know there's this cool thing call workspaces [23:14] but we'll see [23:15] mhall119: yes - which I use :) [23:15] just checking ;) [23:16] Screen 1: Browsers. Screen 2: Code/Image manipulation, Screen 3: Consoles/Systems Overview/Feeds/Other stuff [23:17] Screen 3 is getting cluttered. [23:17] I need to see all these things at a movement of the eye as part of my day by day job [23:17] Home - I can deal with 2. [23:17] ctrl-alt-(left|right), saves me the eye and neck movement [23:18] ah, but - that means I can't be alerted by the big thing flashing red on screen 3. [23:18] then again, I have one 12.5" screen too, and that's enough for me [23:18] it means I can't compare the HTML to what's on the page [23:18] It means I can't see when someone pings me on IRC :P [23:18] * mhall119 does that all the time [23:19] that's what indicators and launcher are for [23:19] and notifyosd [23:20] notifyosd is ok - but doesn't let me, for example, see a graph spiking (I have to write some elaborate code to see that something is spinking and notify me) [23:20] it's all about the fingerspitzgefuhlen :) [23:20] 40 [23:21] http://goo.gl/wkr8Q <-- my current workstation during a break on a seperate viewport than the ones I usually use (hence a blank screen 3)