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gema | hggdh: are you back? | 00:26 |
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RAOF | Why are all mail clients so crap? | 02:29 |
TheMuso | Theres always mutt... | 02:30 |
TheMuso | "All mail clients suck, this one just sucks less." :) | 02:30 |
sarnold | :) | 02:33 |
jbicha | is robert_ancell working this week? | 02:37 |
TheMuso | I thought I saw him online yesterday, but not 100% sure, so don't know whats going on. | 02:42 |
RAOF | He was here this morning. | 02:42 |
jbicha | pitti: do you know what needs fixing for bug 1086369 ? | 05:51 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1086369 in alacarte (Ubuntu) "alacarte crashed with ImportError in /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/util.py : cannot import name GError" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086369 | 05:51 |
pitti | Good morning | 06:08 |
pitti | jbicha: yes, I do; I followed up on the bug | 06:10 |
jbicha | thanks | 06:17 |
ricotz | Sweetsha1k, :\ | 06:55 |
pitti | Laney: should we upload glib 2.35 to -proposed now? I'll ask the release team to block it from migration until at least all the autopkgtests succeed | 07:29 |
Laney | pitti: Even given the segfault? | 09:03 |
Laney | Do you need that version for some reason? | 09:03 |
Laney | perhaps we could revert the commit in question | 09:04 |
pitti | Laney: it blocks updating gobject-introspection and gvfs, both of which I got signed up for | 09:04 |
pitti | and we agreed to update at least glib, d-conf, and the introspection stuff to GNOME 3.8 | 09:04 |
pitti | I'm a bit worried of intorducing glib 2.35.x too late | 09:04 |
Laney | yeah, I agree with updating it | 09:05 |
Laney | but I am very wary given that we know of this bug | 09:05 |
pitti | Laney: reverting the bad commit sounds fine for me | 09:05 |
pitti | yeah, true | 09:05 |
Laney | ok, lets try reverting it | 09:05 |
pitti | I made another commit to svn to drop the 92_revert_appinfo* patch | 09:05 |
pitti | ah, but I forgot another build-dep, will commit now | 09:06 |
pitti | ah no, desktop-file-utils is already there, nevermind | 09:07 |
pitti | Laney: do you know the commit that needs reverting? | 09:08 |
Laney | pitti: not yet, but https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690118#c7 is the clue | 09:09 |
ubot2` | Gnome bug 690118 in general "Crash when closing last tab of a window using Ctrl-w" [Normal,New] | 09:09 |
Laney | that's on 2012-10-09 | 09:10 |
pitti | Laney: oh, in comment 11? | 09:15 |
pitti | Laney: I'll try a build with reverting this one and check | 09:15 |
Laney | comment 7 | 09:16 |
Laney | ah, 11 shows it too | 09:16 |
Laney | there are a couple more related commits | 09:16 |
Laney | but maybe they can stay | 09:16 |
pitti | hm, when I run gedit in jhbuild it doesn't even crash; trying again | 09:19 |
Laney | . | 09:19 |
pitti | ah, it does now; race condition | 09:19 |
pitti | in jhbuild it's a lot faster to revert/try/etc; doing now | 09:19 |
ricotz | pitti, Laney, hi, be aware of deadlocks with eglibc 2.16 which should be solved with 2.17 | 09:23 |
pitti | ricotz: with glib 2.35? | 09:23 |
ricotz | pitti, yes | 09:23 |
ricotz | due the GTask introduction | 09:23 |
pitti | I didn't get a deadlock yet, but I've only run it since yesterday; do you have some details/bug for this? | 09:24 |
ricotz | might be only hitting its actual consumers | 09:24 |
ricotz | pitti, try to run some gstreamer apps | 09:24 |
pitti | ah, maybe; we still by and large have GNOME 3.6 | 09:24 |
pitti | ricotz: oh, I'm getting tons of hangs with totem | 09:24 |
ricotz | yes | 09:25 |
pitti | but they happen with glib 2.34, too | 09:25 |
pitti | ever since we moved to gst 1.0, I think | 09:25 |
pitti | with RB as well | 09:25 |
Laney | I get loads of hangs with pretty much any audio app on my 2.34 system | 09:25 |
pitti | especially when trying to seek | 09:25 |
ricotz | hmm, i see | 09:25 |
ricotz | alright, bbl | 09:26 |
pitti | Laney: reverting a36028f386708bb10d seems to do the trick; I tried 5 times in a row | 09:27 |
* pitti commits that to SVN | 09:27 | |
Laney | great | 09:27 |
Laney | feel free to upload to proposed then | 09:27 |
Laney | I can take care of the block | 09:27 |
pitti | great | 09:27 |
pitti | Laney: uploaded | 09:36 |
chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:36 |
Laney | & blocked | 09:40 |
czajkowski | Laney: is a helicopter in your way ? | 09:44 |
mitya57 | pitti: hi, I've noticed a small error in one of your recent pygobject commits: | 09:47 |
mitya57 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1537089/ | 09:47 |
mitya57 | (untested) | 09:47 |
pitti | mitya57: oh, thank you | 09:47 |
Laney | czajkowski: that's quite sad news :-/ | 09:47 |
Laney | did it affect you? | 09:48 |
czajkowski | Laney: nope was gonna go to London today, but not after seeing that it will be crazy up there | 09:48 |
pitti | mitya57: pushed | 09:48 |
mitya57 | thanks pitti! | 09:48 |
pitti | thanks to you! | 09:48 |
czajkowski | Laney: I live down in Aldershot now moved from London there before Christmas but over at my other halfs place in Guildford. | 09:49 |
Laney | mmm, thought you might have gone into the office | 09:51 |
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czajkowski | Laney: usually do once a fortnight but I try and tie it in with my physio and not having it this week | 09:56 |
Sweetsha1k | pitti: do you have a minute maybe? | 10:28 |
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pitti | Sweetshark: hey, was gibts? | 10:28 |
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chrisccoulson | brrrrrr, i might have to put a jumper on | 11:12 |
czajkowski | chrisccoulson: and stick the kettle on and have a bucket of tea | 11:25 |
pitti | Laney: ah, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/2.35.4-0ubuntu2 looks good now; crossing fingers | 11:25 |
chrisccoulson | oh, i've got coffee already ;) | 11:25 |
Laney | pitti: yay | 11:25 |
Laney | hm, does anyone happen to know what the 'usb' seed is for? | 11:28 |
pitti | Laney: yes | 11:29 |
pitti | Laney: that was the successor of the "dvd" seed | 11:29 |
Laney | do we build an image for it any more? | 11:29 |
pitti | when we reduced it to an 1 GB (or so) image, while we didn't want to ditch DVDs yet | 11:29 |
pitti | Laney: I don't think so, but perhaps triple-check with the cdimage host's crontab and cjwatson? | 11:30 |
Laney | yeah | 11:30 |
Laney | I was just wondering why pitivi was being kept in main and it seemed like that was the explanation | 11:30 |
pitti | we now just have one image, "the" iso in daily-live/, right? | 11:30 |
Laney | indeed | 11:30 |
pitti | no alternate, no usb, no DVD | 11:30 |
pitti | yeah, I expect quite a bunch of stuff to fall out once we clean up teh seeds | 11:31 |
pitti | Task: ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-usb | 11:31 |
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tjaalton | anyone objects removing gpointing-device-settings from raring? it seems abandoned upstream, orphaned in debian and doesn't build (needs porting to work with current g-s-d, I think) | 13:11 |
Laney | is there any point keeping it in debian too, then? | 13:12 |
tjaalton | probably not | 13:13 |
tjaalton | looks like unapplying one patch made it build again, but whatever | 13:16 |
Laney | if it's still useful for people we should keep it | 13:16 |
tjaalton | ok | 13:18 |
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jibel | mterry, hey, autopkgtest of deja-dup failed https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-deja-dup/59/ | 16:25 |
jibel | it used to pass until today | 16:25 |
mterry | huh | 16:26 |
mterry | jibel, thanks | 16:26 |
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pitti | Laney: rad! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/2.35.4-0ubuntu2 | 16:53 |
Laney | oh, even armhf :-) | 16:54 |
pitti | yeah, that's the one I was waiting for | 16:54 |
pitti | now gobject-introspection needs to build on armhf | 16:54 |
pitti | (it was depwaiting) | 16:54 |
pitti | poppler, gdk-pixbuf etc. autopkgtests are happy again | 16:54 |
pitti | the only remaining fallout is the deja-dup autopkgtest which stumbles over g_type_init | 16:55 |
pitti | that's something for tomorrow, need to run now | 16:55 |
mterry | pitti, is that what the deja-dup failure is? I hadn't looked at it, but yeah the timing makes sense | 17:03 |
cyphermox | brb, lunch | 17:03 |
pitti | mterry: yes, indeed | 17:06 |
mterry | hmm, that code is generated by valac. I wonder if the latest valac skips that | 17:06 |
mterry | Oh but this is autopkgtest, so it would be compiling fresh | 17:07 |
mterry | The autopkgtest error log does not look intelligible. I'm glad you know what "unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier" means, pitti. :) | 17:09 |
pitti | mterry: oh, is it that? I thought it was g_type_init | 17:09 |
desrt | hey... | 17:09 |
desrt | we're starting to get .la files in /usr/lib again | 17:09 |
desrt | anyone know what's up with that? | 17:09 |
pitti | mterry: so, that's fallout from the signal patch we reverted that causes crashes | 17:10 |
pitti | mterry: gnome bug 690118 | 17:11 |
ubot2` | Gnome bug 690118 in general "Crash when closing last tab of a window using Ctrl-w" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690118 | 17:11 |
pitti | mterry: I reverted http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=a36028f386708bb until that is fixed, as it's probably the lesser evil | 17:11 |
pitti | really need to run now, good night! | 17:11 |
desrt | seb128: this uimanager crash is the only thing stopping you from taking the new glib, hm? | 17:19 |
seb128 | desrt, hey, afaik yes | 17:20 |
desrt | k. | 17:20 |
seb128 | Laney, ^ was there any other issue? | 17:20 |
desrt | get a chance to go to jeffrey's yet, btw? :) | 17:20 |
Laney | seb128: no, just that, but note that pitti uploaded it today reverting one commit | 17:20 |
Laney | which might not be enough if you read the ^^^ conversation about deja-dup | 17:21 |
seb128 | desrt, not yet, still on my list | 17:21 |
seb128 | Laney, oh, cool ... will read the backlog on irclogs.u.c, I don't have a proxy to IRC and just started my client | 17:21 |
Laney | ah, well it's just the jenkins autopkgtest failure | 17:21 |
Laney | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/raring-adt-deja-dup/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/59/console | 17:22 |
mterry | Yeah, I believe that's the warning it spits out that is causing the gtest to fail | 17:22 |
mterry | Since IIRC, gtest fails when there is stderr output | 17:22 |
desrt | mterry: s/stderr/g_message/ | 17:23 |
mterry | desrt, ah | 17:23 |
mterry | for WARNING or CRITICAL I suppose | 17:23 |
* mterry assumes this is not something to be worked around on the deja-dup side, so will let ya'll figure out the best glib-side fix | 17:24 | |
desrt | mterry: and error, of course | 17:25 |
desrt | what's the issue? | 17:25 |
desrt | g_type_init() should not be issuing any g_warning() output | 17:26 |
mterry | desrt, it is the the "unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier" message failing the deja-dup test suite | 17:26 |
mterry | desrt, in autopkgtest, which is holding up (rightly) the glib landing | 17:27 |
desrt | that's something different, i think | 17:27 |
mterry | desrt, that's something to do with https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690118 eh? | 17:27 |
ubot2` | Gnome bug 690118 in general "Crash when closing last tab of a window using Ctrl-w" [Normal,New] | 17:27 |
desrt | sort of yes | 17:27 |
desrt | the actual bug is much older. 10+ years | 17:27 |
desrt | it has a 5 digit number. let me dig it out | 17:27 |
desrt | ah. 6 digit number, but starts with 1... :) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118536 | 17:28 |
ubot2` | Gnome bug 118536 in gobject "Make g_signal_connect_object'ed handlers disconnect when the data object is destroyed" [Major,Resolved: fixed] | 17:28 |
mterry | desrt, is deja-dup misusing glib in a way that is just now being exposed, or is this a glib-side bug that is just now being exposed as a warning? | 17:28 |
desrt | mterry: i'm trying to determine that today | 17:29 |
mterry | desrt, ah OK :) | 17:29 |
Laney | let me find the commit that pitti reverted earlier | 17:29 |
Laney | http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-gnome/desktop/experimental/glib2.0/debian/patches/08_revert_closure_invalidation.patch?view=markup | 17:30 |
desrt | pitti: so gedit does this: $PYTHON -c "import gi; print(gi._overridesdir)" | 17:36 |
desrt | to decide where to install some files | 17:36 |
desrt | this ends up pointing into /usr even if --prefix is given | 17:37 |
desrt | i assume that there is some environment variable that could be used to specify additional override directories.... is there a way to get the full list and/or pick the last one instead of the first? | 17:37 |
robert_ancell | RAOF, any opposition to shipping the latest colord in raring? | 17:59 |
mpt | mterry, for bug 1100405, would it be easier to tell whether updates have ever been installed on the system, than to tell whether any user on the system has run update-manager? | 18:15 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1100405 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Always says "...since Ubuntu 12.10 was released" in a guest session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100405 | 18:15 |
mterry | mpt, probably yeah | 18:17 |
mpt | mterry, ok, spec updated. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates?action=diff&rev2=99&rev1=98> | 18:20 |
mterry | mpt, cool | 18:23 |
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