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gabriel_o00:02
gabriel_ok00:02
gabriel_https://launchpad.net/quickly-community-templates00:03
mhall119gabriel_: is this one of the qt/qml templates?00:04
gabriel_noooo00:04
gabriel_ HTML app: quickly create ubuntu-html-app00:04
gabriel_I took the HTML template00:04
mhall119oh, I think this is a known bug, aquarius hit it too if memory serves00:05
mhall119the html template inherits from the python/gtk ubuntu-applicaiton template, and it didn't fully re-implement everything it needs to00:06
gabriel_I didn't have any problems to make the debian package00:07
gabriel_the problem is in quickly share00:07
bobweavermhall119,  does it use dch -i on every quickly share ?00:09
mhall119I think so00:09
mhall119it probably only runs the license check when you go to share it too00:10
mhall119so quickly build wouldn't have called the code that is failing00:10
mhall119if it's the bug aq found a while ago, it's using the python/gtk license command, which expects to find python files00:11
bobweaverahh I see00:16
fourboobsHi, quick question, is it possible to develop for ububtu for phones in python at the moment?05:29
fourboobsubuntu*05:30
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midnight_hello, ive seen the video of ubuntu phone. Is there a simulator around ?11:44
Takwe probably won't have anything before sometime in february12:01
midnight_k, ive installed ubuntu on my samsung note, i hope that i can install on it :P12:02
bobweaverQuestion:  I am starting to make a app that is for american football coach's . It lets them make plays have a playbook edit scheama's for teams ect. Do you think that this is a good idea or a waste of time ?13:15
auronandacebobweaver: perhaps you could ask coaches13:16
bobweaverauronandace,  that is a good idea .13:17
smartboyhwbobweaver, well the problem is that whether American Football coaches uses them at the first place.13:17
smartboyhwBetter promote it first13:17
bobweaverauronandace,  it is just I stared working on it last night, and today I looked at it more in a light of how long would this take to make real nice and I Think that it would take me at least 2 to 4 months13:18
smartboyhw"them" = Ubuntu phones:P13:18
smartboyhwbobweaver, have a private chat?13:19
bobweavermaybe I should tie something else in it to make it more then just american football or add things to make for more then just coach's but then there is the hells bells of NFL copyright13:20
bobweaversure smartboyhw13:20
bobweaverthanks for asking :)13:20
irontrexits lonely here15:51
irontrex?15:52
k1l_hmm k15:54
irontrexwhere to create apps anyone knows?16:03
k1l_irontrex: you saw the wiki page mentioned in the topic?16:05
k1l_omg, get some patience please m(16:05
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ckpringlehey GuidoPallemans18:35
ckpringlesaw your Reddit app on  youtube!18:35
ckpringleI'm a UX designer at Canonical, and it's cool! I showed the guys here, we had some quick design questions / ideas if you're interested18:36
GuidoPallemansyeah sure18:40
GuidoPallemansckpringle: maybe get in a private room?18:41
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user82_anything happeed after CES or silence for a while until we get source/images?19:28
user82_producer deals...announcements?19:28
dangersaladuser82_: I think we will see a flurry when the images are released. I hope I can get it on my SGSII quickly....19:32
user82_well i want to buy a new phone..but i wait for the first results19:33
user82_i think so too dangersalad19:33
AndroUser2Will the gnex be a dual boot for the os19:33
dangersaladAndroUser2: meaning will it have the desktop when docked? Or dual booting android?19:36
AndroUser2Dual booting android/Ubuntu or complete wipe and ubuntu only19:37
k1lAndroUser2: i think most common is a native single bootup on a phone19:38
dangersaladAndroUser2: IIRC you will only be able to have one OS on at a time19:38
dangersaladThat being said, I am sure someone over at XDA will figure out a way at some point19:39
k1lbut i dont know what its gonna be. but the nexus devices dont have that much internal space and no sd-card. so i think single botup is the way to go19:39
AndroUser2That is what i was thinking it would be. About time to dust off my gnex from my nexus 419:40
AndroUser2Do we have any idea what install memory usage is going to be like?19:44
disharmonicafaik they haven't even implemented all of the features yet19:46
AndroUser2I know everything hasn't been implemented but was there an estimate?19:48
disharmonicAndroUser2, i haven't seen anything like that. At this point we don't even know the minimum requirements. From the OEM guidelines i would assume 512MB should be OK19:53
disharmonicah too late19:53
user82_disharmonic 512mb of what? os flash memory or ram19:55
disharmonicram19:57
disharmonicuser82_, ram19:58
user82_ah ok...19:58
user82_my phone now has 173mb of ram with android 2.2. times changed but 512 should be totally sufficient19:58
disharmonicyou mean free ram>19:58
disharmonic?19:58
disharmonicAll  new midrange phones should have at least 1GB actually. Most high end phones have more. In 2014, which is  the target year for devices shipping with Ubuntu, i suspect even low end phones will have 1GB20:01
user82_disharmonic i mean ram20:01
user82_and i have around 4mb free too...i rooted my phone and removed all running crap20:01
user82_calendard. whatsapp. email. system+launcher. that is all running20:02
disharmonicOn the other hand i feel the 4GB minimum eMMC requirement is a bit on the high side20:02
disharmonicuser82_, you're phone must be at least 3-4 years old20:02
user82_disharmonic it is around 1 year but a 115$ china thing...20:03
user82_it has 256mb of ram but the gpu is a software renderer eating the rest i think20:03
user82_so android has 173mb20:03
user82_slow as hell....but now i am waiting for ubuntu phone20:03
disharmonicThat's gonna take a while20:04
user82_yep..but it still works. maybe i will use another phone+image20:04
user82_if it takes too long20:04
user82_(2014)20:04
disharmonicI've been looking at  Galaxy Nexus prices, but imo it's too expensive for what it offers atm. The nexus 4 is a much better deal20:07
k1lnexus4 is a better deal, if you can manage  to buy one :)20:09
user82_i will buy a used phone of the last gen (1ghz single core and 512 ram) or a gnex20:09
user82_k1l true..sold out20:09
k1l1core and 512mb is to less20:10
k1li would recommend everyone (no matter if ubuntu-phone or not) to go for a dualcore and 1gb ram at least20:10
disharmonicYou should be able to find a phone with 1GB of ram. Most 2012 midrange phones have 1GB and more than 1GHz single core20:14
disharmonice.g. iirc this goes for ~$250 unlocked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III_Mini20:21
dmdrummondHas anyone heard what the graphics stack is?  X, Wayland or the Android stack?22:43
* cielak hopes it's wayland22:44

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