[00:08] can anyone remember how you install amiga workbench on a new hard drive?? [00:09] it just occured to me that the reason i can't remember is because i only ever had to do it once [00:09] "progress" [00:10] you have an amiga? or you're emulating? [00:12] popey: i just "fixed" my A4000 [00:13] actually the problem was the VGA adapter [00:14] if you have a proper distribution of wordpress, one of the disks should simply be labelled install. it'll contain an app on it called HD Install [00:14] ah yes, the install disk [00:14] "contain an app on it" .. I swear I speak english natively. [00:15] you also wrote "wordpress" [00:15] good point. okay, it's time for bed. [00:15] there is an "install" disk as part of the amigaos disk set [00:15] you are aware of the old 3.1 hd prep limitations and recommendations to use a newer tool to do any partitioning etc. also filesystem/scsi.device limits etc ? [00:15] also: pfs is freely available now which you might want to use if you want to use partitions >4gb etc [00:15] ouch [00:15] oh. sorry i thought you meant i wrote wordpress. hehe. [00:15] pfs? [00:16] http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/pfs3aio [00:16] i think i have lag [00:16] if you want to use partitions over 2gb or 4gb or something you need sfs or pfs3 [00:16] you probably know all this [00:16] i put a 1GB HD in it [00:16] i used to knw it but i forgot [00:16] you still might want to use pfs3 or something though due to it being better than ffs in many ways [00:17] where on earth did you get a 1GB hdd? (and cf-ide ftw) [00:17] i got it out of my box o'crap [00:17] i still use a hd in my a1200, since I have so many old laptop drives lying around. 30gb or so it hink [00:17] i have a 42MB one in the box [00:17] also have CF slot in the side [00:17] and yeah i want to put a CF-IDE in it [00:18] but i couldn't find it [00:18] inside my a1200 http://malus.exotica.org.uk/~buzz/a1200/IMG_4291.JPG [00:18] mainly what i want to do is get ppp over serial with amitcp (or whatever networking stack is used these days) and then image all my old disks [00:18] yeah, I have a laptop hdd in my 1200 (and pcmcia-cf in the side for EasyADF) [00:18] (new hd since then though) [00:19] ali1234, slip works well. you can use magplip for additional speed over parallel but more complex to setup and custom cable etc [00:19] ppp over serial is doable. but slip is simpler maybe [00:19] i use my pcmcia for ethernet card currently [00:19] i used to use parnet and a A500/A570 to read CD-ROMs on my A1200 [00:20] lol [00:20] ppp is going to be easier on linux side [00:20] http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6156/6175483156_43d83bff4d_b.jpg that's mine. nothing too amazing. indivision scandoubler and I think an 040 in the bottom, I can't remember now :/ [00:20] don't wanna do parallel cables again :/ [00:20] shauno, nice! :) indivision eh? you must be wealthy ! [00:21] more foolish :) [00:21] i have a 030 card in my A1200. i can't remember which one [00:21] it's actually faster than this 4000 [00:21] since we are talking amigas, I feel the need to spam my amiga site http://www.exotica.org.uk/ [00:21] :) [00:21] (I don't regret it, but I'm not sure I'd do it again either) [00:21] and it has a MMU [00:22] why a scan doubler? [00:22] so it'll work on a regular vga monitor [00:22] for great picture on modern monitors and also you get extra stuff like new screenmodes [00:22] modern monitors support 576i :) [00:22] mine does [00:23] D U2410 [00:23] *Dell [00:23] alternatively you can play the "buy an lcd tv/lcd and hope for the best". [00:23] I can do 1024x768 at a relatively sensible refresh rate [00:23] nah, just by a good monitor [00:23] my lcd tv doesnt take 15khz over the vga, but can do via scart, but not a great picture really [00:23] U2410 isnt perfect [00:23] try interlace modes etc [00:24] you'll never get a good picture out of a LCD anyway [00:24] and... yeah this monitor does interlace [00:24] my NEC4PG had a nice picture, but it needs recapping etc. its knackered. and not worth the repair costs [00:24] I don't have LCD for it, I have some anchorweight Dell that's so old it's beige (but didn't cost me a penny) [00:24] it even has composite input [00:25] someone here recommended it to me [00:25] i can't remember who it was, but well done anyway [00:27] its still easier with a scan doubler. most monitors dont take 15khz on vga etc. and many that do don't work that well with some modes. im pretty sure there will be limitation on the U2410, but it does seem to be pretty good from some pics ive just seen. can you adjust overscan etc for example ? [00:28] yes [00:28] and control the aspect ratio ? [00:28] yes [00:28] nice [00:29] you get zoom/horizontal position/vertical position [00:29] and fill/aspect/1:1 [00:29] whatever those mean [00:30] also there is a setting "pixel clock" but i have no idea at all what that does [00:31] it also has PIP/PBP mode so i can see PC and amiga display at the same time :) [00:31] its to do with the division of the horizontal signal into pixels or something [00:32] ideally id like a 4:3 screen. i use a 4:3 lcd monitor on my a4k on the cybervision. but a4k is pieces atm (need to send it off to be recapped) [00:33] might look into second hand prices of that dell monitor then if its as good as you make it sound heh [00:33] ta [00:36] https://plus.google.com/117474986382867317779/posts/iLtEQ9Faih8 [00:37] ☺ [00:42] so the problem was the VGA adapter that i used to use with a special CRT wide syncing monitor (which is now dead) [00:42] it was just wires inside [00:42] it's supposed to have a buffer, and apparently the A4000 thinks this monitor is a genlock or something [00:42] so i had to solder a chip inside [00:57] I just ordered red function keys for my IBM Model M so it looks like an A3020 [00:57] ah, that's an Amiga, not an Archimedes, though... [01:58] hey guys can anyone help? I uninstalled wine 1.4 by sudo apt-get purge wine 1.4 and now ubuntu software center got erased, cannot use synaptic and commands apt-get cannot be found, zypper cannot be found, yum cannot be found.. what can I do ? [01:58] any1 ? [01:59] oops [01:59] uhh, yum should never be found on Ubuntu, it's not a RPM distro. [01:59] what version of Ubuntu are you on? [01:59] you're in a pickle if apt-get has been removed [02:00] hehe [02:00] popey: I did one better, earlier I had a machine where bash had been removed. [02:01] ubuntu 12.10 [02:01] all that happend by removing wine 1.4 [02:01] david__: do you have apt-get installed still? [02:02] I don't think so [02:02] cannot use any aptitude commands [02:02] check by trying to run it [02:02] what happens if you just type "ap-tget" [02:02] er [02:02] apt-get [02:02] Ubuntu hasn't shipped with aptitude for a while now ;) [02:02] apt-get: command not found [02:02] yup, it's broke. [02:02] you're somewhat knackered [02:03] the problem is that [02:03] if I could use zypper or yun [02:03] yum* [02:03] I would reinstall it [02:03] but I cannot even use those [02:03] gives same error [02:03] cannot be found [02:03] you certainly don't want to try and install yum on a debian based distro, that's asking for trouble. [02:03] those are not commands you should run on ubuntu [02:04] you could possibly wget the deb and install it manually with dpkg [02:04] ah yea that's a good idea [02:04] david__: is it 32-bit or 64-bit install [02:04] ? [02:04] 64-bit [02:04] wget http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu//pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.2_amd64.deb [02:05] and once downloaded do:- [02:05] sudo dpkg -i apt_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.2_amd64.deb [02:05] first part worked [02:05] dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process [02:05] on second part [02:05] do you have another apt or dpkg open somewhere? [02:06] nope [02:06] something is open somewhere [02:06] or a stale lock [02:06] I'm quite new, cannot tell for sure but I'm pretty much sure I didn't open anything by myself atleat :D [02:06] ps aux | grep dpkg [02:07] will show any dpkg processes still running [02:07] ps aux | grep apt [02:07] etc [02:07] david 3838 0.0 0.0 13580 936 pts/1 S+ 04:07 0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg [02:07] so probably a stale lock [02:08] and how I unlock it ? :P [02:09] is there a file /var/lib/dpkg/lock ? [02:09] ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock [02:09] -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jan 16 04:05 /var/lib/dpkg/lock [02:09] ok, lets bin that [02:10] sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock [02:10] then do sudo dpkg -i apt_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.2_amd64.deb [02:10] hows it going? [02:10] done [02:11] ok, lets try to fix it... [02:11] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ [02:11] and note the ^ on the end is important [02:11] this should download and install everything that was accidentally removed [02:11] erm [02:11] it did it [02:11] but [02:11] it means [02:11] apt-get is working now [02:11] ? [02:11] well, lets see if this works first [02:11] because before anything related to apt-get would tell me its not a command [02:12] yes, we just manually re-installed it ☺ [02:12] E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop^ E: Couldn't find task 'ubuntu-desktop' E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'ubuntu-desktop^' [02:12] sudo apt-get update [02:12] do that [02:13] and if you get lots of output, pastebin it [02:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [02:13] yeah it gives lot of stuff [02:13] will copy once its done [02:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1536231/ [02:15] ok, now do the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ [02:16] 0 upgraded, 18 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ [02:18] interesting [02:18] ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/lock [02:18] -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jan 16 03:29 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock [02:19] ok [02:19] sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock [02:19] then run the apt-get again [02:20] still processing [02:22] done [02:22] no error [02:22] what did it do? [02:22] pastebin? [02:22] sec [02:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1536239/ [02:23] last lines [02:23] looks fixed to me [02:23] how do I get rid of synaptic now [02:24] and install back ubuntu software centre [02:24] ? [02:24] it added software centre back in [02:25] ah ye [02:25] and now sudo apt-get purge synaptic manager? [02:25] sudo apt-get remove synaptic [02:26] okay, thanks alot mate [02:26] I was searching stuff on net for 2 days [02:26] could not get it fix [02:26] appretiate it [02:26] no problem [02:26] have fun [02:29] someone needs to make an easy way to have your entire OS pulled into RAM and lazy write to disk :( [02:43] any Ideas how to install dota 2 or league of legends on linux ? :P [02:46] popey when I try to save something this is what happens : The folder contents could not be displayed. Error when getting information for file '/home/david/Documents/fixes/Fix apt-get ': No such file or directory [02:49] can anyone help? [02:50] cannot save anything. was trying to save text document and it gave this error [06:03] morning slackers [06:04] o/ [06:04] morning captain funny [06:04] uhoh [08:05] morning everyone [08:06] howdy knightwise [08:08] hey martijn , how are you today [08:09] cold :) [08:09] well, not now I'm inside [08:09] but *shudder* @ outside [08:09] same here , just pludged through the snow in the direction of eindhoven [08:10] eek, it's -15ish there [08:11] About minus ten on the road [08:11] damn. [08:11] i decided to be curagious today and bring my netbookt o work [08:11] running ica client on it. [08:11] not a big success so far [08:11] ica client works [08:11] but now my external screen is stuck at a resolution of 800x600 [08:12] how 90s ;) [08:12] great for CLI stuff , shit for windwos stuff [08:12] knightwise: "Treinverkeer Brabant ontregeld door winterweer: storingen Breda, Tilburg en Den Bosch" [08:12] * knightwise is by car [08:12] i live near Maastricht [08:13] cant believe this no longer words properly in ubuntu [08:14] I hook up a simple 19 inch display via the VGA connector and it cant figure out the resolution ? [08:14] knightwise: which graphics chipset does the netbook have? [08:14] knightwise: if it's "nvidia", blame them. [08:16] I'll check [08:17] its an old Medion netbook. :) [08:17] Intel® 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 [08:17] ooh-err [08:17] Wanted to do an article on how you can still use old netbooks as portable thin clients and stuff. [08:18] knightwise: what does xrandr --auto do? [08:18] or first: [08:18] just "urandr" [08:18] command not found [08:23] damn [08:23] system locked up [08:24] urandr ? it nows arandr and xrandr [08:24] knightwise: The trick is, generally, to not assume you know how to do it and, instead, find out the new Ubuntu way of doing it [08:24] not sure if that's exactly what's happened here, but it's the sort of thing that keeps tripping me up [08:26] BigRedS: but the "new ubuntu way" offfers me no other resolution then 800x600 in the display setting [08:26] MartijnVdS: what is xrandr --auto exactly ? [08:30] knightwise: it autodetects screens and sets optimum resolution [08:30] --auto For connected but disabled outputs, this will enable them using [08:30] their preferred mode (or, something close to 96dpi if they have [08:30] no preferred mode). For disconnected but enabled outputs, this [08:30] will disable them. [08:31] [08:31] knightwise: it used to help to boot with the screen already attached.. some old Intel cards needed that. [08:36] i'm doing that. still no love :( [08:36] i'll try xrandr in a minute [08:37] at least it's not an i845 [08:37] that doesn't even boot under 10.04 without a kernel param :> [08:39] xrandr --auto .. right ? [08:39] yes [08:39] just without the --auto firsat [08:39] to show what it's detected [08:39] You can also use xrandr to add modes/resolutions [08:40] http://pastebin.com/kbzdBxTs [08:41] knightwise: can you pastebin _all_ the output? :) Not just the one connector? [08:44] http://pastebin.com/S44e4FwS [08:45] knightwise: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x768 [08:45] ah wait! [08:45] it's because the panel is 1024x600 [08:45] *facepalm* [08:45] knightwise: if you disable the internal panel, everything will be fine. [08:45] knightwise: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 --output LVDS1 --disable [08:46] uhr [08:46] knightwise: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 --output LVDS1 --off [08:51] * knightwise KISSIS MartijnVdS ! [08:53] knightwise: you happy now? :) [08:54] Overjoyed ! [08:55] so if i make a script out of it [08:55] /bin/bash [08:55] and then the command [08:55] i can use that right ? [08:56] sure [08:57] but it should also be possible to set this from the default tool [08:57] the "Screen & display" (monitors?) tool [08:57] just enable the second screen, then _disable_ the panel.. after that you should be able to select higher resolutions for the external screen [08:57] it's a multi-stage thing [09:12] was he not able to run both displays at once at full res then? === davidmarais_ is now known as davidmarais [09:24] daftykins: no, some of those intel chips can't do that [09:40] Hmm.. I am noticing unity can be a little laggy on my atom netbook with one gig of ram [09:40] might just boot into xubuntu instead [09:40] blamepopey.com [09:45] good morning everyone. [09:45] \o brobostigon [09:46] o/ MartijnVdS [09:54] good morning [09:54] good morning rmarcandier [10:34] There :)Alpine all set up :p [10:37] I'm running 13.04 with an encrypted ~. How likely is it to not be an arse to install 12.04 preserving /home and have things working afterwards? [10:37] it's all in one volume [10:39] Laney: xnox ^^^^ [10:41] BigRedS: so you want to downgrade 2 releases? sounds like a pain - backup your home & list of packages installed, install 12.04, reinstall packages, bring your home back, fix any settings missmatches. [10:41] there were a lot of changes since 12.04 =/ [10:42] er, nah, 12.10 would be okay [10:42] forgot that was out [10:42] just want to not be on a prerelease [10:42] why do you want to downgrade? maybe we can just fix something for you in 13.04? =) [10:42] It's "can the installer reuse an encrypted home"? [10:42] Laney: let's just say that installer can wipe your home sometimes when it's "reusing" the installation. [10:42] basically, virt-manager and/or n-m keep having spats and I'm getting really bored of trying to work out why my VMs cant talk to my host any more [10:43] but I don't have anything with me on which to back up my /home, but would sort of like to get some work done before I next do [10:43] BigRedS: switching back to 12.10 sounds like a big hammer which might not firx your virt-manager networking problem. [10:43] it's working fine there for me. [10:43] no, but I'd at least feel better when I rant about it :) [10:44] TBH, Wheezy's looking really likely come Monday now [10:44] wheezy will be delayed as hell. we are looking at ~ april. [10:44] xnox: why? [10:45] er, are there any reasonable docs on virt-manager? Basically, if I can easily have it redo its networking when n-m buggers it up that'd be a better workaround than the current one [10:45] which is to reboot [10:46] and run a script which tries to configure n-m to not try to manage virt-manager's bridge. Which seems to have something like 50% effectiveness [10:46] Though nothing appears to have gone wrong on this boot, though at first glance no VM can find a dhcp server [10:47] Basically, I'd rather be in a position where I can reasonably expect everything to work, but just to be somewhere where it does would do for now :) [10:47] MartijnVdS: look how far wheezy is behind http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2013/01/11-Debian_Release_Critical_Bug_report_for_Week_02/ [10:47] BigRedS: try to catch folks on #ubuntu-server [10:48] BigRedS: in particular stgraber =) [10:48] * xnox is not sure why stgraber idles in #ubuntu-uk =)))) [10:49] xnox: cool, ta! [10:56] xnox: all the cool people idle in here :) [10:57] czajkowski: I guess I should leave then.... [10:58] Morning all [11:11] whoa.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21040410 [11:13] MartijnVdS: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/505369-helicopter-crash-central-london.html [11:13] jpds: rumours?! [11:14] MartijnVdS: Actually open the link. [11:14] ah lots of infos [11:25] hello guys [11:25] hi andrei_ [11:25] i was wondering how do I sync the data between two glusterfs servers that are set in replicated mode [11:26] i've got a file on one server that is different from the second file server [11:26] and I can't seems to get it in sync [11:26] i tried the heal option [11:26] but that didn't work [11:28] as a result, two of my glusterfs clients see the same file with different sizes [11:28] even worse, accessing this file gives me md5sum: /mnt/glusterfs/date: Input/output error [11:29] I don't think there are many glusterfs-knowing people in here.. [14:37] can anyone help me ID these simms? http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/simm1-1.jpg [14:38] ali1234: they look lke they might fit in an SGI Indy, if that helps. [14:38] lolno [14:39] i know what they are for [14:39] i want to know the sizes :) [14:39] ah ok, no markings to help, I assume [14:39] a couple of them are marked [14:39] trouble is if i put them in the machine it will just read 4mb because it can't handle larger [14:40] Kingston apparently still have their 'lifetime warranty' thing they're obliged to honour, so if you call them with a failed DIMIM/SIMM, in theory they have to replace it. [14:40] cool [14:40] i think one of the kingstons is duff actually so that should be an amusing phone call [14:40] as you can imagine, they don't publicise it much [14:41] these simms are all 20 years old :) [14:41] yeah, I used to work with someone who worked there, they apparently had to replace them despite their age [14:41] I'd be amused to hear the result [14:41] 72 pin. [14:42] probably EDO [14:44] the kingston ones don't look 20yo, I'd assume 9428 and 9426 are year/week pairs. so they're not even old enough to drink :) [14:45] kingston still exist. you'll get warranty service from them [14:45] the rest, not so much [14:45] Goldstar are LG, so there's another [14:47] lg don't make ram though [14:48] they don't make the memory, or the sticks. they're in no position to help [14:52] curious who the LGS etched on those chips is then [14:53] I know it's not something they do anymore, but depending on what their warranty offer was like, that could just make it all the more entertaining [14:54] huh, hynix bought LGS [14:54] hynix *does* exist [15:27] hi guys, trying to do an ssh loop script to echo some text into a file on multiple servers [15:27] so far I have [15:28] You might be better looking into smething like dsh or pssh [15:28] they're parallelized versions of ssh [15:28] for e in $(knife node list); do ssh $e; echo "node_name $e" >> /etc/test.txt ; done [15:28] but its not working - any ideas? [15:29] you're sshing to a box, then after ssh finishes, you're running the echo [15:29] ah [15:29] if you really want to do that, try or e in $(knife node list); do ssh $e 'echo "node_name $e" >> /etc/test.txt'; done [15:29] note the quotes and the lack of ; [15:29] but also look at dsh and pssh :) [15:30] ah oki [15:40] thanks mgdm !! [15:40] you're welcome :) === esther is now known as esmo [16:32] Herzlich Willkommen in der Freiheit! Kein Kick Kein Ban nur Fun! lg Lukas #ubuntu-de-offtopiic [16:35] wait what, knife = chef? yet you're using ssh for loops? I dare not ask :) [16:40] * dwatkins notes that Kuschelwolle is spam-bombing [17:01] morning all [17:02] EVENING! === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [17:09] it's not evening yet it's still light ouHOLY POOP IT'S NIGHTTIME OUTSIDE [17:09] popey: morning dude did jono make it in the end? [17:09] he's not here yet [17:29] popey: twitter traffic hates him apparently [17:29] i see a jono [17:32] i don't. [17:38] popey: say hi to him for all of us! [17:40]