[05:00] <Kilos> morning all
[05:26] <nlsthzn> mornign uncle Kilos 
[05:28] <Squirm> morning
[05:29] <mazal> Morning guys
[05:36] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn Squirm barrydk maz
[05:36] <Kilos> mazal even
[05:38] <Kilos> how come you two get to knock off so early everyday?
[05:43] <inetpro> Goeiemôre 
[05:44] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[05:54] <barrydk> Morning all
[05:54] <mazal> Kilos, because we start so early everyday
[05:54] <mazal> We start work at 6:45
[05:54] <mazal> And get no lunch or tea or anything
[05:55] <Kilos> whew the no tea sucks
[05:55] <barrydk> Hey are you my supervisor thats personal
[05:55] <Kilos> they want you to go home and get your own lunch
[05:55] <Kilos> haha
[05:56] <Kilos> no wonder you guys get verlep
[05:57] <mazal> Yep
[05:57] <mazal> We have to "ontvlug" if we wonna go eat something
[05:58] <Kilos> we had 2.5mm rain yesterday
[05:58] <Kilos> didnt even settle the dust
[06:29] <inetpro> Kilos: be thankful, I didn't have any
[06:30] <Kilos> ai shame
[06:42] <mazal> Another one for the clever okes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/243728/how-do-i-manually-insert-my-signature-in-thunderbird-in-ubuntu
[06:55] <Kilos> hi ludo!!
[06:59] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:00] <Vince-0> hi!
[07:00] <Vince-0> ubuntu-za.org seems to be offline
[07:01] <Kilos> hmm
[07:02] <Kilos> inetpro, who looks after the site
[07:02] <Kilos> the fly or the weed
[07:02] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm...
[07:02] <Kilos> hi superfly you sneaked in without a greeting
[07:02] <inetpro> Kilos: both and none
[07:02] <superfly> Kilos: jammer, bietjie besig
[07:03] <Kilos> inetpro, mazal barrydk julle moet hard op roep "Kom groot reen"
[07:03] <Kilos> np superfly 
[07:03] <Kilos> lol @ both and none
[07:04] <superfly> tumbleweed: have you moved the site to the new VPS yet?
[07:04] <superfly> tumbleweed: cause the IP address that the domain name resolves to is not responding (even to a ping: destination host unreachable)
[07:04] <superfly> Vince-0: ^^
[07:04] <inetpro> superfly: it's been down for a few days already
[07:05] <superfly> inetpro: orly?
[07:09] <inetpro> superfly: 03/01 20:11:54 <smileee> http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Main_Page is down :(
[07:10] <inetpro> I assume it's on teh same host as that ^^
[07:10] <inetpro> the*
[07:10] <inetpro> how can I slow down my left hand to stop typing e before h?
[07:11] <Kilos> rofl
[07:11] <Vince-0> hihi!
[07:12] <Vince-0> at work so usually between screens here
[07:12] <Kilos> np Vince-0 
[07:12] <superfly> inetpro: you can't... I even type some words backwards sometimes...
[07:12] <inetpro> lol
[07:16] <superfly> ohi henkj!
[07:17] <henkj> hey superfly 
[07:17] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[07:25] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[07:34] <Vince-0> I'm doing another Durban Linux User Group G+ hangout tomorrow eve at 8 - may I suggest anyone who joins us can join this IRC channel?
[07:41] <Kilos> yes please do
[07:41] <superfly> Vince-0: that's usually the time I put my eldest to bed, but if I am around, I might pop in
[07:43] <Kilos> when ubuntu-za gets to 50 users here i can retire
[07:50] <nlsthzn> really enjoying faffing around in something other than Linux for a change...
[07:50] <nlsthzn> http://www.flickr.com/photos/59930315@N03/8386298732/
[07:50] <nlsthzn> screenshoit
[07:51] <Kilos> what is it nlsthzn 
[07:52] <nlsthzn> The latest offering from the original evil empire, with some tweaks cause I don't have touch on my desktop
[07:53] <Kilos> haha 7 or 8
[07:53] <nlsthzn> 8
[07:53] <nlsthzn> also finshed setting up OSX in VBox... just becasue
[07:53] <nlsthzn> *because
[07:53] <nlsthzn> next up ubuntu and also pc-bsd
[07:54] <nlsthzn> install all the os's
[07:54] <Kilos> sjoe
[08:01]  * mazal also need a new little project
[08:02] <mazal> Pc has been working correct for a while now
[08:04] <inetpro> Residents warned to be on alert as heavy rain fall in Mpumalanga http://www.info.gov.za/speech/DynamicAction?pageid=461&sid=33686&tid=96279
[08:04] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[08:06] <inetpro> Kilos: ons hoop maar ons kry 'n stertjie van daai reen
[08:07] <superfly> mazal: http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/archive/2008/09/06/linux-is-boring
[08:09] <Kilos> ai inetpro ek hoop ook so
[08:09] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[08:10] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[08:10] <Kilos> you well maiatoday ? just busy?
[08:11] <maiatoday> yip year started with a hectic pace
[08:11] <maiatoday> big deadline for  friday
[08:11] <Kilos> ai
[08:11] <henkj> hi maiatoday 
[08:11] <maiatoday> hi henkj
[08:14] <inetpro> superfly: you have a new desktop?
[08:14] <superfly> inetpro: no, that's an OLD post
[08:14] <superfly> from September 2008
[08:14] <inetpro> woo
[08:14] <inetpro> I mean wow
[08:15] <inetpro> superfly: BTW that link to "previous blog post" is broken
[08:15] <superfly> inetpro: i'm not surprised
[08:15] <inetpro> lol
[08:16]  * inetpro was just trying to figure what happened
[08:16] <inetpro> thought I had missed something
[08:17] <Kilos> what hardware you got superfly ?
[08:17] <Kilos> mb specifically
[08:17] <Kilos> glad to hear it just worked
[08:31] <superfly> Kilos: at the moment? ASUS, I think
[08:34] <superfly> inetpro: http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/archive/2008/09/04/dead-computers-and-upgrades
[08:34] <superfly> inetpro: that's the previous blog post
[08:35] <inetpro> superfly: thanks
[08:36] <Kilos> ah ty superfly glad to know asus in linux friendly
[08:36] <Vince-0> yoh those are old posts - I find most local blogs etc died out long ago
[08:36] <superfly> mine is practically dead
[08:36] <superfly> I don't often blog
[08:41] <Vince-0> who's is that saturnlaboratories one?
[08:41] <Vince-0> I've got a few I follow RSS on, not many ZA ones though
[08:43] <Vince-0> my G+ feed is the new micro-blog kinda
[08:44] <Vince-0> I started posting to blogger but its quite a bit of effort: http://vince-0.blogspot.com/
[08:47] <Vince-0> I prefer the interaction on G+ . Blog pages seem a bit one sided and I'm no journalist
[08:58] <inetpro> Vince-0: AFAIK that is superfly's own site
[09:01] <Vince-0> aah
[09:02] <superfly> Vince-0: whether or not blogging is a conversation is dependant on how you blog :-)
[09:07] <Vince-0> the platform plays a part in how that conversation flows
[09:07] <Vince-0> do you use G+? 
[09:11] <superfly> I do
[09:12] <Vince-0> add me? Vincent Swart - I havn't kept track of IRL names...
[09:14] <superfly> Vince-0: I did already, a few months ago?
[09:15] <superfly> https://plus.google.com/u/0/117665138933177179233/posts
[09:15] <Vince-0> oh yar! we've been through this
[09:16] <Vince-0> my feeds been getting a bit much lately so I miss the good stuff. Busy siphoning off the spammers
[10:03] <mazal> superfly, nice one :) That reminds me of the day I got this new pc I have now that I was talking about. It went much the same way. Installed pc , installed my custom .iso , boot up , everything works hehehehe
[10:04] <mazal> superfly, refering to your earlying link btw , only now had time to go read it :P
[10:04] <mazal> earlier*
[10:13] <inetpro> Kilos: what's for lunch?
[10:13] <Symmetria> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/68560-google-denies-donkey-murder.html
[10:13] <Symmetria> hahahahahahaha
[10:13] <Kilos> lol
[10:13]  * Symmetria dies laughing
[10:13] <Symmetria> thats ALMOST as bizarre as: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262149/Belgian-woman-67-picking-friend-railway-station-ends-Zagreb-900-miles-away-satnav-disaster.html
[10:14] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for lunch
[10:14] <Maaz> I'm sure Kentucky would go down well Kilos
[10:15] <mazal> Hey hey , stadig , ek is honger
[10:16] <mazal> En hier issie 'n kentucky nie :(
[10:16] <barrydk> hies nie eers 'n hoener nie
[10:19] <Kilos> ai
[10:19] <Kilos> julle moet plan maak by die kombuis
[10:20] <barrydk> Kilos, what about a takeaway?
[10:22] <Kilos> from where barrydk 
[10:23] <barrydk> you, i see you're farming with takeaways
[10:24] <Kilos> lol
[10:25] <barrydk> seriously Kilos , you don't think of farming with tilapia and aquaponics?
[10:25] <Kilos> no dams here
[10:26] <barrydk> make your own dont have to be that big
[10:26] <barrydk> Whats your min temp in winter
[10:26] <Kilos> at bad times -2
[10:27] <barrydk> yea so youll also need heating i thought it would be a bit warmer there.
[10:28] <Kilos> thats too much work and costs involved to get going and electricity is expensive out here
[10:30] <barrydk> yea electricity is bad.
[10:30] <barrydk> Have to go again 
[10:31] <Kilos> k
[10:36] <magespawn> howdy all
[10:36] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[10:37] <magespawn> struggling with a network 
[10:39] <magespawn> going insane
[10:49] <Kilos> hi hubx 
[10:49] <hubx> hi Kilos 
[10:49] <Kilos> eish magespawn that sucks
[10:49] <Kilos> im back to iptables again and cant get to share 3g from tiny
[10:50] <Kilos> forgot what i did last time
[10:50] <Kilos> hehe
[10:52] <Kilos> or rather forgot where i saved the commands
[10:52] <magespawn> need indexing software
[10:53] <Kilos> lol
[10:53] <Kilos> more to learn how to use
[10:54] <Kilos> im still learning to use apt-get
[11:20] <mazal> Ah , gor one question answered. The Thunderbird thing is solved :)
[11:20] <mazal> got*
[12:13] <magespawn> later all
[12:17] <inetpro> hmm...
[12:18] <inetpro> someone hacked the coffee machine?
[12:18] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[12:18]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[12:19] <mazal> maaz coffee please
[12:19] <Maaz> mazal: Yessir
[12:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and mazal!
[12:22] <inetpro> Maaz: thanks
[12:22] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay :-)
[12:23] <mazal> Maaz , dankie
[12:23] <Maaz> Groot plesier mazal my vriend
[12:23] <inetpro> mazal: were you not supposed to have gone home already?
[12:23] <mazal> nope
[12:23] <mazal> 3pm
[12:23] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[12:24] <inetpro> so mazal, you have no Internet connection at home?
[12:26] <inetpro> or is it simply me forgetting that I've not seen you here after hours?
[12:27] <inetpro> oops... forgetting seeing you* 
[12:27] <mazal> I do have inet at home inetpro , and I used to be on a lot after hours
[12:28] <mazal> But the last few weeks I haven't
[12:28] <inetpro> ah
[12:28] <mazal> Got busy with other things
[12:28] <inetpro> np
[12:48] <mazal> Nou is dit daai tyd inetpro :)
[12:49] <mazal> Enjoy your evening everyone
[12:49] <inetpro> mazal: ai, just because Kilos came in?
[12:49] <inetpro> Kilos: wb
[12:49] <Kilos> ty fellas
[12:49] <Kilos> nearly did a clean install
[12:50] <barrydk> lekke slaap almal
[12:50] <inetpro> Kilos: he ran away from you
[12:50] <Kilos> lol
[12:50] <inetpro> barrydk: bye :-)
[12:50] <Kilos> nsg barrydk 
[12:50] <Kilos> unity het ewe skielik nm verloor
[12:50] <Kilos> het recovery gedoen en niks
[12:51] <Kilos> toe recovery en dan fsck van daai grub menu en dan reboot en dit werk weer
[12:51] <Kilos> dis crackers hackers
[13:03] <Kilos> was trying to get iptables setup again and ssh  and did something wrong
[13:03] <Kilos> i take back my email addy
[13:06] <inetpro> ai!
[13:19] <Kilos> dit reen so bietjie hier
[13:28] <Squirm> what a day
[13:28] <Squirm> someone shoot me please
[13:28] <Kilos> bang
[13:29] <Kilos> aw miss
[13:37] <inetpro> Squirm: only if you bring rain here
[13:39] <Squirm> shoot me first
[13:41] <Symmetria> man...
[13:41] <Symmetria> did all the news outlets get bought by comedy central today
[13:41] <Symmetria> http://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbabwe/Africa-needs-one-president-Mugabe-20130116
[13:48] <Vince-0> lols
[14:54] <inetpro> Squirm: no, I need the rain first
[14:54] <Kilos> lol
[14:56] <superfly> it is extremely hot here, but it looks like it may rain soon. 
[14:57] <Kilos> it alsways rains down there
[14:57] <Kilos> sigh
[14:57] <Kilos> every week
[14:57] <Kilos> always
[14:57] <superfly> haha no.
[14:59] <Kilos> our average rainfall here has dropped to about 350mm pa
[14:59] <Kilos> you guys get 900 or more
[15:00] <Kilos> top billing or carte bl;anche reckon we are a semi arid area now
[15:00] <Kilos> blanche*
[15:00] <Squirm> inetpro: I asked first?
[15:01] <Squirm> works over, now can you kill me?
[15:13] <superfly> Kilos: but the plants here need lots of rain - we might get more than you, but we need it all
[15:14] <Kilos> lol
[15:14] <Kilos> ya ya
[15:25] <Kilos> can one ssh to another pc with a working os on?
[15:25] <Kilos> as in from unity to my maverick
[15:25] <Kilos> or will i crash something
[15:26] <superfly> Kilos: huh?
[15:26] <Kilos> as in ssh miles@192.16.1.2
[15:27] <Kilos> from miles@192.168.1.1
[15:27] <superfly> Kilos: why not?
[15:27] <Kilos> i crashed nm earlier now im scared to just try without asking first
[15:28] <Kilos> it completely disappeared
[15:29] <Kilos> hey nlsthzn you still up?
[15:29] <Kilos> holidays again
[15:53] <Kilos> inetpro, you may take leave of your place of employment and travel to your abode
[15:53] <Kilos> better Squirm ?
[15:53] <Kilos> of / from ?
[16:01] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[16:01] <Cantide> hello :)
[16:19] <nlsthzn_> hiya all
[16:19] <Kilos> you well neelsie?
[16:20] <nlsthzn_> I will live (I hope) Got some tummy bug making me an expert in sprinting under pressure
[16:23] <Kilos> eish
[16:23] <Kilos> maybe you allergic to camel milk
[16:23] <Kilos> or dates
[16:23] <Kilos> hehe
[16:24] <Trixar_za> The fruit or with somebody else?
[16:25] <Trixar_za> or the arrangement of days on a calender
[16:25] <Trixar_za> to cover all of them
[16:25] <Trixar_za> :P
[16:27] <Kilos> the fruit man, his wife is there
[16:27] <Kilos> hehe
[16:27] <nlsthzn_> my wife is more allergic to me going on dates than I am I think
[16:27] <Kilos> haha
[16:28] <Trixar_za> Possibly violently allergic
[16:28] <Kilos> you still enjoying sucks 8 nlsthzn ?
[16:28] <Trixar_za> with a pair of scissors
[16:28] <Trixar_za> :P
[16:28] <Kilos> haha or rat poison
[16:28] <nlsthzn_> Yes uncle Kilos ...  it is working very well for me at the moment...
[16:28] <Kilos> have they got rats there
[16:29] <Kilos> never heard of desert rats
[16:29] <nlsthzn_> big rats
[16:29] <nlsthzn_> where you big civilization you bring rats
[16:29] <Kilos> and small cats
[16:29] <nlsthzn_> vicious cats
[16:30] <Kilos> and peeps feed them instead of letting them live off the rats
[16:31] <nlsthzn_> not really... if the cats are not careful there are enough cultures here that will have them for dinner too
[16:31] <Kilos> rofl
[16:32] <nlsthzn_> but the climate here is hard on animals outside...
[16:33] <Kilos> except camels
[16:33] <nlsthzn_> I guess
[16:39] <Kilos> lo ludo
[16:39] <Kilos> every day i greet you and you never reply
[16:39] <Kilos> grrr
[16:40] <Kilos> aw wraz is gone
[17:16] <Kilos> hi Trix[a]r_za 
[17:18] <nlsthzn_> two nights to go and I get to have all my four off days for a change :) looking forward to it
[17:18] <Kilos> lol
[17:22]  * nlsthzn_ is thinking of trying to play through final fantasy on the xbox, problem is last time I played a month and was still on dvd one of 4 or 6 (memory fail)
[17:23] <Kilos> wow
[17:24] <Kilos> are they so difficult or just slow to get everything as you need it to be on top
[17:24] <Kilos> thats too long on one game
[17:27] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:27] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:27] <nlsthzn_> it is a beautiful but long game... the beginning is especially tedious and repetitive but apparently it gets better
[17:28] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:28] <nlsthzn_> alo
[17:28] <Kilos> well maybe your 4 days off will help
[17:29]  * nlsthzn_ has to go and try and get some dinner... bbl
[17:30] <Kilos> magespawn, you sweat again tomorrow
[17:31] <Kilos> and swim on saterday
[17:31] <magespawn> I sweat always
[17:31] <Kilos> lol
[17:52] <magespawn> Any rai up that way?
[17:52] <magespawn> Rain
[17:52] <Kilos> 1mm this avy
[17:53] <magespawn> You actually measure that?
[17:53] <Kilos> yeah thats where the gave shows
[17:53] <Kilos> starts on zeror
[17:53] <Kilos> zero
[17:56] <magespawn> Hmm true dat, but 1mm surprised it did not evaporate before you got out there
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <magespawn> Buys clearing out all the stuff on my laptops
[17:59] <Kilos> huh?
[17:59] <Kilos> what im missing
[17:59] <magespawn> Dowloaded stuff 
[18:00] <magespawn> Files duplicates of files etc
[18:00] <Kilos> whats Buys
[18:00] <magespawn> Sorry busy
[18:01] <Kilos> ah
[18:01] <Kilos> hehe
[18:21] <magespawn> I have got too much stuff clutterting up my hardrives
[18:22] <Kilos> what kinda stuff
[18:22] <Kilos> hehe
[18:22] <magespawn> Miles and miles of pdf's
[18:23] <magespawn> Gotta go charge battery bbl
[18:23] <Kilos> k
[18:24]  * Squirm ponders about studying mechatronics
[18:25] <Kilos> Maaz, define mechatronics
[18:25] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word?
[18:25] <Kilos> haha
[18:27] <Squirm> Maaz: define Mechatronic Engineering
[18:27] <Maaz> Squirm: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word?
[18:27] <Squirm> Maaz: google test
[18:27] <Maaz> Squirm: "Create Tests for Organizational Training and Certification Programs ..." http://www.test.com/ :: "Speedtest.net - The Global Broadband Speed Test" http://www.speedtest.net/ :: "Test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test :: "Personality test based on Jung and Briggs Myers typology" http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-
[18:27] <Maaz> win/jtypes2.asp :: "Speakeasy Speed Test" http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ :: "Test your IPv6." ht…
[18:27] <Squirm> Maaz: google define Mechatronic Engineering
[18:27] <Maaz> Squirm: "Mechatronics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechatronics :: "Mechatronics Definition" http://www.mcgs.ch/mechatronics_definition.html :: "What is Mechatronics? | Engineers Australia" http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/mechatronics/what-mechatronics :: "Mechatronics engineering definition of Mechatronics engineering in
[18:27] <Maaz> ..." http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Mechatronics+engineering :: "Mechatronics e…
[18:28] <Squirm> Kilos: it's more the processing side of engineering
[18:28] <Kilos> ah
[18:28] <Squirm> I mean
[18:28] <Squirm> like
[18:28] <Squirm> creating a circuit board for a robot and making it do xyz
[18:29] <Kilos> you mean programming machinery to make circuit boards?
[18:29] <Squirm> making the circuit boards so you can program the machinery
[18:30] <Kilos> ah
[18:30] <Squirm> it's a form of mechanical and electrical engineering that branches into creating that
[18:30] <Kilos> photo etching and all
[18:31] <Squirm> if I don't get a job somewhere nice next year, I may start it via Unisa
[18:31] <Kilos> arent you happy at the school?
[18:32] <Squirm> I want to go into linux administration
[18:32] <Squirm> this isn't the place
[18:32] <Kilos> ah
[18:32] <Squirm> going on an RHCE course on the 28th
[18:32] <Squirm> then will maybe do the exam mid March
[18:32] <Squirm> and hopefully pass
[18:33] <Kilos> rhce?
[18:33] <Squirm> Red Hat Certified Engineer
[18:33] <Kilos> didnt you do that?
[18:33] <Squirm> I have my Red Hat Certified System Administration
[18:33] <Squirm> it's a step up
[18:33] <Kilos> ah ya
[18:34] <Kilos> good keep studying
[18:34] <Kilos> even if you stay in that job. its an income same time
[18:34] <Squirm> that's all I'll be able to afford this year :P
[18:34] <Kilos> work is scarce
[18:35] <Squirm> yet I have to move forward
[18:35] <Kilos> anddo the LPI course on the side
[18:35] <Squirm> I'm thinking of that
[18:35] <Kilos> you will 
[18:35] <Squirm> it's just I don't think I'll be able to afford it
[18:35] <Squirm> so once I get my RHCE I'm going to push for a job in that field
[18:35] <Kilos> you mean to write the exam
[18:36] <Squirm> yeah
[18:36] <Kilos> wow how much they charge for that
[18:36] <Squirm> don't know
[18:36] <Kilos> monkey had all the info
[18:37] <Kilos> and nuvo i think
[18:37] <Kilos> i mailed some site where you can register and all
[18:38] <Kilos> i mean i mailed our list with the info
[18:38] <Kilos> you register online and then get the course from them and go write at local exam place
[18:40] <Kilos> mail the monkey and ask. he should still have the info
[18:40] <Squirm> yeah, will see what happens after RHCE
[18:41] <Squirm> anyway, I'm getting into bed. night people
[18:42] <Kilos> night Squirm 
[18:46] <Symmetria> http://www.tweaktown.com/news/27905/web_developer_fired_for_outsourcing_entire_job_to_china/index.html
[18:46] <Symmetria> hahahahahahhaahhahahaha
[18:47] <Symmetria> classic
[19:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:08] <smile> good night
[19:08] <smile> :p
[19:31] <smile> byeee :)
[19:52] <inetpro> Symmetria: now that's one interesting way to get the job done
[19:56] <inetpro> nlsthzn: and you are still not back from dinner yet?