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TimeRider_UKBroUnicorn : not sure if'll help, but http://lifehacker.com/5934942/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-mac-and-take-back-your-powerhouse-apple-hardware looks like it describes your situation00:00
Xeagowith proper port forwarding I cannot access it from wan00:00
Xeagoufw is disabled and iptables -L gives empty tables00:00
tekkok, thanks for the advice, besides plugging in various dongles to different machines, can you recommend some kind of  multiple dongles to a single wifi device that is purchasable?00:00
ubuntu-tester1ero-jiji: sorry, chmod -R o+r /path/to/folder00:00
ero-jiji@ubuntu-tester1 thanks, never thought of that /smacks head00:00
slowwritespeedam so confused, in gpart, there is like amiga, sun, loop, pc98, msdos, gpt, etc and i dont know which one to do00:02
ubuntu-tester1Xeago: how are you trying and what's output00:02
tekkslowwritespeed, depends on the use/purpose etc00:02
tekkgot or msdos are the 2 to focus on00:02
ubuntu-tester1slowwritespeed: it depends on purpose00:02
tekkgpt*00:02
slowwritespeedmicroSD -  installing ubuntu , persistent storage00:03
orbitwhitetekk, there r solutions that used as voip gateways, like for example http://www.addpac.com/addpac_eng2/addpac_product_view_detail.php?class_id=100001&item_id=706 but i don't know anything beyond that it exists00:03
slowwritespeedI just wanna format it from FAT to ext4..00:03
tekkthanks guys00:03
slowwritespeeddo I even need to do this?00:03
tekkslowwritespeed, is it a boot drive or secondary?00:03
ubuntu-tester1slowwritespeed: FAT32 i think00:03
tekkif secondary i'd recommend GPT00:03
tekkif modern hardware i'd recommend GPT all the way...00:04
TheNoobyProh00:04
tekkmsdos as fdisk likes to call it… doesn't really support modern features of disks and modern use cases00:04
Xeagobasically ssh from another network doesn't work00:05
slowwritespeedthe problem is... it doesn't matter what i do.. whenever i format to anything.. I go to startup disc utility thing in ubuntu...and it wants me to erase disc...and everytime i do.. goes back to FAT @_@ .........00:05
TheNoobyProHi, I'm experiencing a bit of a problem with Ubuntu. I have a lot of lag when opening the Dash Home. I don't know if it's my GPU, it's an old GeForce 7300 LE, but I've used it on Linux Mint and it performs well.00:05
Xeagossh from local network (via another host on the network) without problems00:05
ubuntu-tester1Xeago: tomeout?00:05
Xeagotime-out yes00:05
tekkslowwritespeed, are you using ubuntu server or desktop?00:05
ubuntu-tester1Xeago: *timeout00:05
slowwritespeeddesktop00:05
slowwritespeed32bit00:05
wagle12.10, connecting to samba server.  if I click on "homes", it doesn't let me specify a loginname/password to try logging in as?  how do i get it to work like macosx and win7?00:05
ubuntu-tester1Xeago: ping?00:05
orbitwhitei'm just curious if anyone used to boot from microsd card blugged into usb reader adapter dongle00:05
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ubuntu-tester1Xeago: router ping?00:06
tekkslowwritespeed, try launching gparted, its a nice visual interface to parted etc… makes life a bit easy, under the menu you'll find Device -> Create Partition Table00:06
tekkfrom there you can create new partitions and format them to ext4 or your desired fs00:06
XeagoI don't forward ping, I can ping the router locally (disabled at wan) pinging the broadcast does not include the host, pinging the ip directly does include the host00:06
ubuntu-tester1orbitwhite: i did, what's a problem00:06
Xeago(e.g. ping 192.168.0.255 only shows me, 192.168.0.123 shows ubuntu host)00:07
slowwritespeedand please don't tell me to do terminal commands, it never works :p...and I know my passward... whenever i installing apps from ubuntu store and it asks for password.. it always works... but when i do a sudo command it terminal...and it asks for password and enter it... always says incorrect :/00:07
Xeagoand the router responds at lan just fine aswell00:07
tekkslowwritespeed, gparted should be available from the menu… and i hate to say it, but if you're scared of terminal commands… perhaps you shouldn't be using ubuntu00:07
slowwritespeedtekk: but is Creating a Partition Table neccessary? Can ext4 work on msdos parition or no?00:08
orbitwhiteubuntu-tester1, i tried it once and the problem is that grub didn't start for some reason while it was "somewhat properly installed", maybe dongle itself was a problem?00:08
tekkslowwritespeed, yes it can, but if you have a larger than 2.5tb drive, you'll experience strange behaviour depending on your spin of ext400:08
orbitwhitemaybe u could tell which one u were using so i could remember it just in case00:08
tekkbut creating a partition table isn''t a big deal00:08
ubuntu-tester1Xeago: check if sshd is really listening on the port00:09
XeagoI can connect to it fine from other hosts in the network00:09
playonlinux_needHeyas00:09
playonlinux_needCan anybody help me with a question on an error when trying to use the program playonlinux?00:09
slowwritespeedk... maybe its not the format thats giving me issue.. but installing ubuntu on SD...how? what tool? i think the startup utility giving me issues.. no matter what i do in gpart.00:09
ikoniathe playonlinux guys can help00:09
ubuntu-tester1orbitwhite: some BIOSes can't boot from secondary USB devices00:09
ikoniait's a comercial product00:09
playonlinux_needOh ok. Can I find them here on IRC?00:10
ikoniaor is it?00:10
XeagoI think playonlinux is just a wine wrapper00:10
tekkyou wanna install ubuntu on an SD card?00:10
orbitwhiteubuntu-tester1, maybe it is the case, but it was on a list like of that "f8 menu" where u pick the boot device lol00:10
tekkbooting from that will depend on your BIOS/efi and also… it'll be shit slow00:10
ikoniasorry, I was thinking of crossover00:10
JonEdneyplayonlinux_need, try #playonlinux00:10
playonlinux_needAlright, thanks JonEdney :)00:11
ubuntu-tester1slowwritespeed: if you won't insist on ext4, things will go smoother...00:11
orbitwhitetekk, nope just was curious to have bootloader on microsd card00:11
tekkwell you can orbitwhite… but its not gonna be great00:11
tekkif you wanna run ubuntu on some portable flash00:11
tekkthen get a fast(ish) usb 3.0 thumb drive00:11
tekkmicrosd and the likes have really bad IOPS00:12
sebastiansam55what is a current audacity like program?00:12
orbitwhitetekk, i want to carry my bootloader and keys for luks-encrypted instance on microsd00:12
AndChat504Can some one please help me, i need to add nomodeset into grub... i can only boot into grub and i dont know to to work it00:12
orbitwhitethats all00:12
tekkah, shouldn't be an issue then00:12
sebastiansam55or is audacity still one of the better ones around?00:12
tekkbut BIOS dependent of course00:12
ubuntu-tester1orbitwhite: yes it may be in the list but not boot. i have two laptops an one boots and the other not00:12
tekkmost do IDE emulation for SD00:12
komputesSebastianFlyte: what does it lack?00:12
orbitwhitesd won't fit, my sd port depends on firmware00:12
komputessebastiansam55: : what does it lack?00:12
orbitwhiteso it doesn't work at that state when everything boots up00:13
sebastiansam55well i don't know i was wondering if there were any better programs than audacity00:13
orbitwhitei guess ubuntu-tester1 is right and its just a bios issue because i'm 100% sure grub was installed correctly on that microsd i tried00:13
sebastiansam55really have no idea bout this stuff seeing if anyone here knew bout anythin00:13
AndChat504Can someone help me edit grub from inside of grub00:13
orbitwhiteanother reason could be that chinese usb dongle as microsd card reader adapter00:13
tekkorbitwhite, if booting with the card reader connected and card present, does it show up in your BIOS as a boot device / hard drive?00:14
icerootAndChat504: press "e" when you are on an entry in the grub menu, after that press "b" to press the changed line00:14
iceroot!grub2 | AndChat50400:14
ubottuAndChat504: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)00:14
ubuntu-tester1slowwritespeed: it may also depend on SD size. smaller ones have more chances i guess00:14
orbitwhitetekk, yup00:14
tekkorbitwhite, you should be able to load your boot loader from it then00:14
tekkand point it to a physical hard disk00:14
orbitwhitebut even hardware id is different to microsd card itself because there is another supah adapter that shows ids for cards that plugged00:15
tekkhkmm00:15
orbitwhiteso it makes me think that dongle could be a problem otherwise its a bios issue00:15
tekkyeah, one characteristic of the SD spec is… not all readers follow it properly00:15
tekkheh00:15
orbitwhiteas mentioned above00:15
tekkif you buy say… SUPERCHINABRAND SD CARD READEr00:15
tekkthe device will show as SUPERCHINABRAND SD CARD READER 4GB00:16
tekkfeather than SanDisk Extreme 4GB00:16
tekklabels get fucked up00:16
ubuntu-tester1slowwritespeed: sorry, it was intended for orbitwhite00:16
Xeagoufw and iptables are not interfering either00:16
xangua!language | tekk00:16
ubottutekk: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:16
orbitwhitethe problem is that only chinese dudes produce such small dongles lol00:16
AndChat504Iceroot: how do i pull up the boot file or w/e it is in grub ubuntu is booting into black screen.  I need to add "quite splash nomodeset"00:16
orbitwhiteas far as i've seen00:16
tekkbut if using got won't the label come from the bytes in partition table rather than hardware?00:16
tekkim not sure00:16
orbitwhiteubuntu-tester1, tried 64mb one =)00:17
AndChat504Iceroot: i dont even know where to begin inside of grub00:17
ubuntu-tester1Xeago: then it must be a router problem00:17
tekkanyways, netflix time for me00:17
tekkciao00:17
orbitwhitegood luck =)00:17
Sgt_Shultztekk & or Orbitwhite , Can u make a ubuntu "tiny" install like dslinux ? (damm small linux) that will run off a 64 meg usb ..key00:18
ubuntu-tester1Xeago: check forwarding setup, remove and re-add it, try another port00:19
orbitwhiteSgt_Shultz, i was never curious00:19
orbitwhiteSgt_Shultz, just need a bootloader stored in there and working00:19
tekkSgt_Shultz, with a very custom kernel and a lot of stuff stripped back… maybe… but probably not.00:19
orbitwhitemicrosd is destroyed easily and cozy to carry lol00:19
orbitwhitesmartcard for dummies and anti evil-maid thing00:20
AndChat504Orbitwhite: can you pointout how to add "quite splash nomodeset" to grub file from inside of grub00:20
wagleubuntu 12.10 (and 10.04).. if I click on homes, it doesnt allow me to specify username and password, it just tries to login as the username I'm logged into on the ubuntu box. how to fix?00:20
wagleoops, thats sambda00:21
orbitwhiteAndChat504, im afraid of grub and i do everything reading manpages lol00:21
ubuntu-tester1wagle: samba shares?00:21
orbitwhiteso i'm not a good advisor for sensitive cases00:21
Sgt_Shultzi was i am playing with the ardrone it 128meg ram, 1gig data, pc, really but a tight version of linux is needed, that is what i am looking for ...00:21
wagleubuntu-tester1: samba home dir00:21
wagleworks on win7 and macosx00:21
AndChat504I dont think it hard i just have no clue about grub00:21
ubuntu-tester1wagle: on the network?00:21
waglenetwork file server00:22
AndChat504Kinda dead in the water no pc on phone00:22
orbitwhiteAndChat504, i assume its somewhat not possible00:23
orbitwhitebut i'm kinda newb00:23
AndChat504Lol 4 real?00:23
orbitwhiteat least to make permanent change00:23
AndChat504Im pretty sure its possible00:23
orbitwhiteto grub configuration00:24
Hunter HRB WAR REPORT 13-13-13 => http://pastebin.com/vHkssVAJ00:24
icerootAndChat504: /etc/default/grub00:24
Hunter HRB WAR REPORT 13-15-13 => http://pastebin.com/LygzDmLH00:24
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AndChat504Or not even prement i just need to be able to boot into ubuntu 1 at least00:24
icerootAndChat504: for permanent changes on grub00:24
orbitwhiteoh00:24
icerootAndChat504: and to edit the current config use "e" on the line you want to boot as i already said00:24
AndChat504Installed gpu drive now booting into black screen00:25
orbitwhiteAndChat504, could u please remind what is the problem exactly, because iceroot already told how its done00:25
iceroot!nomodeset | AndChat50400:26
ubottuAndChat504: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:26
AndChat504So"e /etc/default/grub" from inside grub?00:26
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icerootAndChat504: press "e" on the line when you are in grub to change in (e)dit mode00:26
orbitwhite"e" itself allows to edit boot params00:26
icerootAndChat504: also read the link from ubottu00:26
orbitwhiteconfig is something u will edit after it will be loaded00:27
orbitwhiteadter what u will apply changes to grub instance00:27
orbitwhiteaccording to this config00:27
hackeronis there a defacto standard ffmpeg repository for a bleeding edge ffmpeg version?00:30
ubuntu-tester1wagle: check if username/password for this share is stored in Passwords and Keys00:30
iceroot!ppa | hackeron00:30
ubottuhackeron: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge00:30
hackeroniceroot: I saw that, but searching for ffmpeg shows like a 100 repositories, lol - is there a way to see the one that has been frequently supported the longest?00:31
AndChat504Duh im stupid thought i needed to be in grub terminal ty00:31
ubuntu-tester1hackeron: 'bleeding edge' comes only from source i guess00:31
hackeronubuntu-tester1: I'm looking for something that is nightly or compiled every few days00:32
icerootAndChat504: no problem, you are welcome00:32
orbitwhitehackeron, they got their own git00:32
orbitwhiteif it fits00:32
iceroothackeron: http://ffmpeg.org/download.html  ->  FFmpeg Ubuntu packages for Precise, Oneiric, Natty, Maverick, and Lucid (amd64, i386) are available at Jon Severinsson's FFmpeg PPA.00:33
hackeronorbitwhite: they got their own ubuntu repository?00:33
hackeroniceroot: ah, thanks, so Jon Severinsson00:33
iceroothackeron: they even have ther own ppa00:33
orbitwhitehackeron, git is always the very latest thing00:33
ubuntu-tester1hackeron: Jon Severinsson's ppa is mentioned on off site, so check how often it updates00:33
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hackeronorbitwhite: iceroot: ubuntu-tester1: thanks, that's perfect :)00:34
hackeronorbitwhite: iceroot: ubuntu-tester1: seems very outdated, over 2 months old :( - don't even have the segment stuff00:35
ubuntu-tester1iceroot: simple googling gives 85% of answers :)00:35
ubuntu-tester1hackeron: but not 100% unfortunately :)00:36
hackeronubuntu-tester1: the commit I care about was 5 weeks ago, heh, Jon Severinsson's ppa is 9 weeks old :(00:36
orbitwhitegit is the very latest thing00:36
hackeronorbitwhite: git won't build00:36
orbitwhiteoh00:36
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Guest87571can someone help me with a question?00:36
orbitwhitethats the price00:36
orbitwhitelol00:36
hackeronorbitwhite: did a few days ago, heh00:36
Sgt_ShultzMay I ask for clue where to look next, my cursor, Its driving me nuts, Its a wandering cursor it keeps leaving & moving while I type, I looked @ focus, and keyboard but can't seem to fix the problem, any ideas ?00:37
hackeronorbitwhite: right, so I'm looking for a PPA that's reasonable up to date (5 weeks ago is fine), heh00:37
ubuntu-tester1hackeron: email Jon00:37
hackeronnot a bad idea00:37
Guest87571why does it freeze up when i try to exit solaitire?00:38
orbitwhiteit wants u to stop gambling i suspect00:38
qwiksilver711how to add something to my boot commands?00:38
qwiksilver711specifically usb.autosuspend-000:39
Guest87571not gambeling00:39
qwiksilver711specifically usb.autosuspend=0 sorry00:39
bentinataqwiksilver711, I don't know00:39
ubuntu-tester1Sgt_Shultz: known problem with some mices. observed it on many times windows but never on ubuntu00:39
bentinataqwiksilver711, but AFAIK, you can put it on log in00:39
ero-jiji@ubuntu-tester1 got everything working, thanks again00:39
qwiksilver711how00:40
hackeronubuntu-tester1: emailed jon :P00:40
ubuntu-tester1ero-jiji: you're welcome00:40
wagleubuntu-tester1: nothing in passwords and keys (fresh 12.10 install)00:40
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phunyguyugh... I can't get this PC to get a DHCP lease.  I have link lights, AND activity, and all the rest of the systems are operating normally.00:41
phunyguynetwork manager just waits, and waits, and then says disconnected.00:41
bentinatajust put your script in /etc/init.d00:41
Sgt_Shultzubuntu-tester1,  thanks ill research that by changing, mice see if it works00:41
qwiksilver711bentinata: how00:41
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harrishow do i add google plus app to mail notification applet dr_willis00:42
ubuntu-tester1phunyguy: check logs00:42
orbitwhiteqwiksilver711, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions00:43
orbitwhitei guess its time to bookmark it already lol00:43
phunyguyubuntu-tester1, I have a hunch that it is cable/switch related00:43
xanguaharris: enable mail notifications in google+ :P00:44
ubuntu-tester1phunyguy: try static config00:44
harrisxangua,  no in the mail notificaition appler00:44
harris*applet00:44
ubuntu-tester1orbitwhite: ubottu knows 'boot'00:46
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orbitwhiteubuntu-tester1, the problem is that i don't know ubottu lol00:46
xanguaharris: configure google+ to send you mail notifications :P00:46
harrisadd how00:47
ubuntu-tester1orbitwhite: meet it: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi00:47
xanguaooh you mean the message indicator, you mean you add the webapp harris ¿00:47
orbitwhiteubuntu-tester1, thx00:47
harrismo00:47
harrisno00:47
harrisidenticator00:47
Sgt_Shultz!triggers00:48
harrisand i use 12.04 so i have the app00:48
harrisnot webapp00:48
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fishsceneGreetings! Where should I go to ask about Ubuntu one? It isn't synchronizing properly on my Mac.00:51
MrokiiHello. What could be the reason that my usb webcam isn't detected by the system or the usb-hub? It has been working just some days ago...00:51
ubuntu-tester1fishscene: at #ubuntuone00:52
fishsceneThanks00:52
orbitwhiteMrokii, is it dead? =)00:53
phunyguyubuntu-tester1, I can try static config but it is not ideal.  Syslog tells me that the DHCPOFFER comes in, but then i get a DHCP timeout after that00:53
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: pastebin what appears in syslog in 30 sec after plugging it in00:54
phunyguyand then it cancels DHCP request00:54
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: sorry, was intended for phunyguy00:55
AndChat504Iceroot: u still there?00:55
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: sorry again, was for you ^)00:55
phunyguyubuntu-tester1, static config works fine, just the finishing stages of DHCP fails.00:56
phunyguyI am afraid I cannot pastebin from that machine :(00:56
ubuntu-tester1phunyguy: ok, network itself is fine00:56
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phunyguyubuntu-tester1, yes.  No other devices fail to receive an IP, but the reason I suspect hardware still, is I used to have a PC plugged into that port which did the exact same thing, just once in a while, not all the time.00:57
phunyguysuch an odd issue.00:57
orbitwhiteand why settin it manually is not an option?00:57
phunyguyI think I am going to get in my attic this weekend and run another cat5e cable, but this time to my wifi AP, which has a 4 port switch as well.  That way I can make that the main switch for the house, and I KNOW that one works fine.00:58
phunyguyorbitwhite, never said it wasn't an option, just not ideal.00:58
orbitwhiteoh ok00:58
phunyguyalso it seems to pick up a different IP on the lease when it tries and fails00:59
phunyguygot a million entries on the lease table on my router00:59
ubuntu-tester1phunyguy: may be watching tcpdump will give a clue00:59
tony1 how can i fix this problem.... while installing mysql, i got this messege on terminal        mysqld: Can't change dir to '/var/lib/mysql/' (Errcode: 2)01:00
ubuntu-tester1phunyguy: maybe router table got overloaded01:00
ashamedHi! I'm pretty new to Linux and IRC. Is it okay to ask how to get context menus in 12.04?01:01
Hans_Henrikquestion, why is pastebinit_1.3-2ubuntu3_all.deb  's default pastebinit   paste.debian.org  ? (when there is a paste.ubuntu.com  :p )01:01
orbitwhitetony1, is it the case? http://superuser.com/questions/173179/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-1001:01
phunyguyubuntu-tester1, I doubt that.  It is a full on security appliance01:02
phunyguynot a home router01:02
orbitwhitefirst link on google01:02
Mrokiiorbitwhite: How should I know?01:02
memandwould someone write me a msg, I need to test something?01:02
ubuntu-tester1!ask | ashamed01:02
ubottuashamed: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:02
dr_willisashamed: theres a nautilus scripting feature that may do what you want01:02
ashameddr_willis: link, please?01:02
dr_willisashamed: it adds right ckick items to files01:03
Hans_Henrikis there any alternative to pastebinit  btw?01:03
Hans_Henrikhaving issues with it.. it fails "echo test | pastebinit"  for example x.x01:03
dr_willisashamed: no idea. it has a site of examples01:03
Mrokiiubuntu-tester1: How exactly do I check the syslog?01:03
tony1orbitwhite my case is the same01:03
tony1u right01:04
ashameddr_willis, the issue is more that many HP laptops don't register the right-click. I'm thinking that there's some kind of key-combo click you can do instead?01:04
ashamedLike, on a Mac, it's ctrl-click.01:04
MidecI'm performing a clean install of ubuntu 12.04 and i have some questions regarding partitions.  I know i need to have a '/ partition' and a 'swap partition', what do i do with the rest of the HDD(i will only be using linux, will not be dual booting)  please  and thank you.01:04
dr_willisashamed: thats a totally different thing then.01:04
orbitwhitetony1, google halps in most cases, use it ;)01:04
memand!ask | memand01:04
ubottumemand, please see my private message01:04
Hans_Henrikafaik, a swap partition is optional :o01:04
Hans_Henrik(but often recommended)01:05
dr_willisswap is optional... but reccomend01:05
qwiksilver711all nvidia drivers are current and ubuntu doesnt detect my display thats running through hdmi01:05
ashameddr_willis: I just want to make the context menus show up. It doesn't matter if I right click to do it, or ctrl-click to do it... I just need to know how to do it.01:05
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: in terminal, run tail -f /var/log/syslog, plug the camera, wait, press Ctrl+C in terminal, copy output01:06
Midecwell I have 500 gb, how should i allocate it?  i have 4gb ram, so im going to allocate 8024mb to swap, and i read online to put roughly 10-25gb into the / partition, what do i do with the rest of it? leave it as free space?01:06
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dr_willisashamed: id say check askubuntu.com01:06
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: paste to pastebin, not here01:06
ashamedWill do. But... how do YOU get context menus?01:06
dr_willisashamed:  i just right  click...01:07
ashameddr_willis: OK, thanks! So there's no secret combo... I just need to troubleshoot.01:07
ashamedI'll try your suggestion, thanks!01:07
ubuntu-tester1Midec: alocate and mount it to /home01:08
ubuntu-tester1Midec: or leave unallocated to have some flexibility in the future01:09
Mrokiiubuntu-tester1: There isn't much to paste. I think the relevant line may be this one: Jan 16 02:09:01 stephan udevd[28962]: timeout: killing 'mtp-probe /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-1/1-1.4/1-1.4.4 1 60' [511301:09
ubuntu-tester1!pastebin | Mrokii01:09
ubottuMrokii: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:09
tony1i'll try your suggestion, thanks!01:11
Mrokiiubuntu-tester1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1536140/01:11
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: please grab more lines, from the time before you plugged it01:12
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: (scroll console up)01:13
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: sorry, didn't notice timestamps. have you tried rebooting?01:16
MrokiiNo, haven't tried rebooting yet.01:17
MrokiiGuess I'll try.01:17
ubuntu-tester1Mrokii: try then. seems like udevd had some problem and got stuck01:18
Mrokiiubuntu-tester1: Okay, thanks. I'll see.01:18
Quinn_Hello everyone01:19
ubuntu-tester1Quinn_: hi01:19
Quinn_I'd like to test out the propietary driver for my Radeon 6290 on Ubuntu 12.10 in a live USB environment. How can I do this?01:19
orbitwhitegood question lol01:21
Quinn_Okay, if anyone knows, please let me know :)01:22
schmitt953hi, so I am installing a 12.10 ubuntu server guest in kvm, for some reason the bootloader loads but then the screen in the virtual terminal is just black01:26
schmitt953any ideas?01:26
MidecI'm doing a clean install of 12.04 and im currently setting up the partitions, I am going to put 8Gb into the swap, 25gb into the / folder, but what do I do with the rest of the space?  it's a 500gb HDD, so what do I do with the remaining 467gb of HDD?  leave it as free space?  (i will not be dual booting)01:26
orbitwhiteMidec, what amount of ram ur machine has?01:27
ubuntu-tester1Midec: see my last answer01:27
Midecorbitwhite, 4gb, I read online that you should double that if you have the space01:27
orbitwhiteu won't need such a huge swap in that case01:28
orbitwhiteMidec, consider this rule as recommendation only, until its above 1gb01:28
orbitwhite2G should be enough for sure i assume01:28
schmitt953sorry I did something dumb and suspended the laptop01:28
Midecubuntu-tester1, ah gotcha, so allocate the rest as /home?01:29
ubuntu-tester1Midec: or leave unallocated if you don't need it now01:29
orbitwhiteMidec, u can cut / to 12 gb and to map the rest of space for /home01:30
orbitwhiteif u don't plan for dual-boot for sure01:30
Midecubuntu-tester1, so i'll have 25Gb in  '/', 467Gb in '/home', and 8Gb in 'swap',   ?01:30
Midecorbitwhite, nope, if i need to use windows, i'll just run a VM01:30
ubuntu-tester1Midec: yes01:30
orbitwhiteD:01:31
Mrokiiubuntu-tester1: Guess, the restart resolved the issue. Thanks again.01:31
Midecubuntu-tester1, thank you so much, i just spent 5 hours trying to figure out why I had a 'input/output error during read on /dev/sda"  It was I had my HDD locked in bios, I cleared that and it solved it. I am exhausted. So again, thank you very much.01:32
lee8oiWhats the best say to set the menu on the top panel bar to always-visible?01:32
ubuntu-tester1!nox | schmitt95301:32
ubottuschmitt953: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode01:32
ubuntu-tester1Midec: :)01:33
DudeFacehi01:34
DudeFaceHello Everyone!01:35
lee8oireally wish my menu would stay visible.... I had hoped dconf would provide an answer.01:35
sean_hi01:37
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DudeFaceSign this to help people with RSD/CRPS: http://signon.org/sign/fda-approval-for-ketamine/01:41
dr_willishow to not get petitions signed...01:42
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psusiI started getting an RSI recently.. I didn't get high ( well, one night when the pain was keeping me up ).. I fixed my work environment01:43
ubuntu-tester1lee8oi: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/25785/can-auto-hide-for-the-application-menu-be-turned-off-in-unity01:44
DudeFaceI bet I'll get more signatures than you.01:44
DudeFaceJust got one.01:44
orbitwhitewhat is rsi tell me someone01:45
psusirepetitive stress injury01:45
ubuntu-tester1orbitwhite: ask wiki01:45
orbitwhiteubuntu-tester1, physics related relative strength index?01:46
lee8oiubuntu-tester1,  so in other words I have to use the ppa which hasn't been updated since september01:46
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orbitwhiteor some01:46
orbitwhiteecomonics whaterver01:46
orbitwhitei'm too stupid for this life lol01:46
ubuntu-tester1lee8oi: you don't *have to*. you can wait, you can use Mate or something. Unity have much, much to improve on usabilty01:48
lee8oiis the compiz stable in Unity? if I use ccsm to configure things?01:48
_helios_lee8oi, it just depends.  I have had problems with it before01:49
* lee8oi says a prayer and dives in.01:49
ubuntu-tester1lee8oi: that option is missing in current Unity settings, just have checked01:49
DudeFaceSign this to help people with RSD/CRPS: http://signon.org/sign/fda-approval-for-ketamine/01:49
lee8oirats01:50
ubuntu-tester1DudeFace: don't spam please01:50
psusiDudeFace, off topic, stop or you will be kicked01:50
DudeFaceSo kick me then01:50
DudeFaceSign this to help people with RSD/CRPS: http://signon.org/sign/fda-approval-for-ketamine/01:50
DudeFaceSign this to help people with RSD/CRPS: http://signon.org/sign/fda-approval-for-ketamine/01:50
DudeFaceSign this to help people with RSD/CRPS: http://signon.org/sign/fda-approval-for-ketamine/01:50
FloodBot1DudeFace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:50
xpistosIf i try to install and get a strange colored screen01:51
DudeFaceIt's not my fault you don't want to be helpful.01:52
_helios_DudeFace, you would have better luck posting on your facebook or something not here, we stay on subject around here.01:52
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dr_willisits yiyr fault for faiiling to be helpfull.01:52
_helios_ty bazhang01:53
lee8oiwell, I can see unity is making strides of improvement. But I'm sad I can't make that menu bar stay visible. Its a deal breaker because its annoying that I can't see it.01:53
_helios_lee8oi, what menu bar?01:54
dr_willislee8oi:  what menu bar are you refering to01:54
lee8oitop one01:54
_helios_lee8oi, it should be staying visible.01:54
lee8oithe one that you gotta hover to see01:54
lee8oinot the panel, the menu01:54
dr_willisYou wan tto always see the  file.. open .. settings.. type menu entriss?01:54
lee8oiwindow menus01:54
lee8oiyea01:54
psusithat and the fact that even non maximized windows get their menu sucked up there, and you can't minimize windows by clicking the icon on the dock... very annoying01:54
dr_willislee8oi:  its designed to hide them, so you can see the actual window title.01:55
_helios_lee8oi, it does that because all menus from other applications are integrated into the top menu like on a mac os.01:55
dr_willischeck into global menu tweaks/settings perhaps01:55
ubuntu-tester1lee8oi: pressing Alt+F or Alt+H can be a palliative01:55
lee8oithere's enough room for both01:55
psusican see the actual window title at the top of the window for non maaximized windows01:55
dr_willislee8oi:  not on my netbook01:55
dr_willistheres also ways to disable the global menu01:55
lee8oiI'd rather have the menu than the title anyways. I got the window for all that.01:55
lee8oiI don't need the title of the program to use it, just a launcher icon and a damn window menu01:56
psusiand actually unity doesn't show the title, just the name of the app, which is kind of silly too01:56
_helios_lee8oi, the menu will auto hide not just for the title but for other reasons, like when you switch an application etc.01:56
psusiat least for non maximized windows01:56
lee8oiWell its annoying. I'm going to see about putting Cinnamon on here. That's less annoying.01:57
psusignome-shell?01:57
dr_williscinnamon can break your system.. good luck01:57
lee8oibreak? ba01:57
_helios_I think it's a good idea to hide the menu until it is needed,  Actualy I love that that is why I switched back to Ubuntu from Xubuntu just for that reason...lol01:57
psusiit's a great idea... for maximized windows... sucks otherwise01:57
lee8oiyou got used to it, but I use my menu's a lot01:57
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_helios_lee8oi, if you switch to Xubuntu which is a good desktop manager it always shows menu's the old fashion way.01:57
dr_willislearn  to use the HUD if you use menus a lot. its designed to make menu access faster01:58
psusiHUD?01:58
lee8oiwell yea I'm familiar with all the desktops. I mainly hopped back to ubuntu to stay with the gaming trends01:58
dr_willisthe HUD iis an easyaly overlooked feature01:58
dr_willis!hud01:58
lee8oiI don't mind the hud, I just want the dam window menus to stay visible.01:58
dr_willisHmm. no factoud. check out videos of it in use on youtube and the blog sites like webupd8 and omgubuntu01:58
lee8oieven back on the windows for all I care01:59
dr_willislee8oi:   look in to the globasl menu tweaks and  perhaps disable it.. guides out there.01:59
_helios_lee8oi, switch to Xubuntu it has menu's always visible on the actual window.01:59
sean_i need girlfriends .01:59
lee8oiglobal menu? is that what its called?01:59
lee8oiget over the xubuntu :P02:00
dr_willislee8oi:  yes.. ive been calling it the global menu for some time now. ;:)02:00
_helios_lee8oi, but you will loose all the eye candy of Ubuntu and it is sexy.02:00
dr_willisglobal menu can be disabled on a per app  basis, or competley02:00
lee8oiok disabling global menu, thats my next step.02:00
ubuntu-tester1lee8oi: if you use it a lot, i bet you should remember it, top level at least :)02:00
psusiI just don't understand why they can't only use the global menu for maximized windows02:00
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dr_willislet those menus mocvce around! :)02:01
dr_willisor jusst maxamize everything02:01
dr_willis!info maximus02:01
ubottumaximus (source: maximus): Automaximizing window management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.14-3 (quantal), package size 19 kB, installed size 97 kB02:01
psusiI have a 27 inch wide screen monitor, why would I maximize everything? ;)02:01
dr_willis27 - too tiny.. get 3 more monitors02:02
jaimefso why is miitool installed by default when it's been deprecated by ethtool, which is not?02:02
sean_I dont understand02:02
ubuntu-tester1dr_willis: i wonder how many people have single-threaded, single-windowed mind (no offence)02:03
lee8oiwhat the....am I seeing QT and GTK both in unity?02:03
dr_willisubuntu-tester1:  theres 'task' focused peopel, then theres 'job' focused people.02:03
ZiberHm. Free VPS, 3GB HD space. Sign-up so I get more space? http://chunkhost.com/r/charlie389202:05
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dr_willisZiber:  pleese dont spam  stuf flike that.02:05
ZiberNot exactly spam. But okay.02:05
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: please, no02:05
dr_willisit is spam.02:06
ZiberIt could be a way for people to learn about ubuntu, at literally no cost to them.02:06
dr_willisits not SUPPORT related so its spam in here..02:06
ZiberWhen I first started learning about Linux, I knew very little about paritioning so I was scared to do it on my own computer. I would've loved having a place to mess around with it.02:07
dr_willis!ot02:07
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:07
dr_willisZiber:  experiment in virtualbox. its easier to deal with02:07
lee8oifat lotta good that did. Some dudes idea of removing the menu was to remove the appmenu packages02:07
lee8oimenu still up there02:07
ZiberSpeaking of support related, know about mysql-server package being broken in 12.04?02:07
dr_willisi belive the omgubuntu or webupd8 site had a guide on tweaking the 'global menu'02:08
ikoniain what way broken02:08
Ziberikonia: Not starting, tables in mysql.* arriving corrupt.02:08
_helios_Alright guys I'll prob be on tomorrow ttyl ;)02:08
BlackDalekSpeaking of support related..... Where in god's name do I find custom colour congifurations which Unity unfortunately imported from old gnome 2 custom colour config in my wife's PC when she upgraded from ubuntu  11.04 to 12.04?02:08
lee8oiI really hope Ikey gets the Solus desktop tweaks setup so we can use them in Ubuntu.02:08
ikoniaZiber: it's certainly not a broken package02:08
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: not actually free, paid in fb likes :)02:09
Ziberikonia: I beg to differ.02:09
ZiberIt seems to be very broken, freshly installed two 12.04 lts VMs, same issue with the package on both.02:09
ikoniaZiber: `lets see.......thousands of people install the same package, myself included, no problem, you install the package, it's got corrupt tables.....what do you think the problem is02:09
ConGiunhey guys02:09
dr_willisIts very likely its a issue with the VPN/VMS service02:09
ikoniaZiber: what makes you think the tables are corrupt ?02:10
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Ziberikonia: Other than syslog saying they were and running mysql with the option to ignore privleges saying that the host.MYI was not a valid format?02:10
BlackDalekI need to know how to remove custom colour configuration, because currently Unity wants to make all top of screen menus in black on black and icon text in black... Where do I find custom colour configs so I can delete them? I can find no way to change the font colours etc...02:10
ikoniaZiber: I suspect the syslog doesn't actually say the tables are corrupt,02:11
Ziberikonia: One sec. I'll show you.02:11
dr_willisBlackDalek:  used to be a tweaktool for that. but i caant recall if it was 'myunity' or some other named tool02:11
ikoniaZiber: and mysql will only run skipping grant tables if you tell it to, it does not fall back to it02:11
Ben65i'd vote the problem is either the user, or the host that receives payment in "likes"02:12
lee8oihmm 'kubuntu-low-fat-settings' package02:12
BlackDalekdr_willis, already tried that - myunity has no options at all for configuring colours of a theme.02:12
dr_willisBlackDalek:  perhapos it was gnome-tweak or in ubuntu-tweak. im not on a ubuntu box to look.02:12
ubuntu-tester1BlackDalek: system settings -> appearance -> theme02:12
zebaszphey, does anyone know if/when Upstart will be replaced with systemd?02:13
Ziberikonia: Yes, I know. I did it manually02:13
dr_williszebaszp:  from what ive read. not for a few releases yet.02:13
dr_williszebaszp:  but they have been known to get radical with non lts releases02:13
BlackDalekubuntu-tester1, that is also equally useless... that only allows choice of theme, but no way to fix colours which were changed in gnome 202:13
zebaszpdr_willis: hopefully 14.04 will be systemd?02:14
Ben65much too soon to speculate02:14
lee8oiUnity desperately needs configurability. These extra tools are cool but its getting messy having to search through multiple tools to tweak everything.02:14
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ikoniazebaszp: it's not on the roadmap yet - so it's a pointless discussion02:14
Ben65lee8oi: thats why i don't use it02:14
lee8oiI'm installing kubuntu-desktop as we speak :)02:14
zebaszpI'm a little more anxious about Wayland, though, but I'd guess that's gonna take longer than a year02:14
dr_willisor go back to some default theme...02:14
ubuntu-tester1BlackDalek: if you change theme and change back, it get reset to default colors, no?02:15
Ben65nvidia isn't on board with wayland02:15
zebaszpI know02:15
dr_willisi find that often end user tweaking configurability - causes many of the issues02:15
BlackDalekWhat I really need to know if the location of customised theme colours because unity has obviously imported them from somewhere... so far no one seems to know where. I tried switching themes, but the messed up colour config seems to stick..02:15
zebaszpbut for one thing, Gallium3D driver are quite something right now, and Nvidia's plans are far from predictable after this whole Steam on Linux thing02:16
Ziberikonia: http://pastebin.com/f0S5LnYj02:16
BlackDalekubuntu-tester1, no, it doesn't. :( customized colours are stuck02:16
dr_willisBlackDalek:  in .config or .gnome* or .gtk*    would  be my guess.. look for files that are owned by root.. that can cause weird issues02:16
dr_willisBlackDalek:  such as a user not being able to change a setting02:16
ikoniaZiber: why are you not using the init script to run it02:16
Ziberikonia: This is a freshly installed system, running 12.04 lts, installed yesterday.02:16
ikoniaand why are you root02:16
Ziberikonia: Because it doesn't run if I do that.02:16
Ziberikonia: Because I wanted to run a few commands for which I'd need to sudo and running sudo -i was easier.02:17
ikoniaInnoDB: The log sequence number in ibdata files does not match02:17
ikoniaInnoDB: the log sequence number in the ib_logfiles!02:17
ikonia130115 21:12:06  InnoDB: Database was not shut down normally!02:17
ikoniaZiber: the database was started - someone shut it down in a mess02:17
ConGiunwat problem02:17
ikoniaZiber: I would check the repository you are pulling mysql from, that is not ubuntu's mysql-server's package behaviour02:17
Ziberikonia: I'm telling you, this was a freshly installed system, yesterday. I have not done anything to any part of the file system, save removing apparmor.02:17
Ben65should wipe all mysql stuff and re-do it properly02:17
ikoniaZiber: these vm's, what is the hypervisor02:18
Ziberikonia: Xen.02:18
Ziberikonia: Starting with /etc/init.d/mysql, syslog reports "init respawning too fast."02:18
BlackDalekwhat is .gtk directory stand for? Gnome... tool kit?02:18
ikoniaZiber: that sounds like another problem with your install02:19
Ziberikonia: Rather "init: mysql respawning too fast, stopped".02:19
ikoniaZiber: I would look at the repositories you are using, that is not the behaviour of the ubuntu packages02:19
Ziberikonia: How do I check that?02:20
ikonia!info mysql-server02:20
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.5): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.10.2 (quantal), package size 11 kB, installed size 113 kB02:20
ikoniaZiber: looks at your repo sources02:20
Ziber/etc/apt/sources.list?02:20
ikonia!info mysql-server 12.0402:20
ubottu'12.04' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable02:20
ikonia!info mysql-server precise,02:20
ubottu'precise,' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable02:20
ikonia!info mysql-server precise02:20
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.5): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.3 (precise), package size 11 kB, installed size 113 kB02:20
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ikoniaZiber: package version matches up from the current ubuntu repo package.02:21
ikoniaZiber: I'd watch the install process and see if anything is not downloaded properly02:21
ikoniaalso check the install logs / dpkg log see if there are any warnings02:21
Ziberikonia: Alright, how do I safely remove everything and start over with the package?02:22
ikoniajust purge the package02:22
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Ziberikonia: Does that actually remove the files?02:23
Ziberapparently not.02:24
ZiberCan I rm -rf /var/lib/mysql?02:24
Ziberikonia: I purged it, can I safely rm -rf /var/lib/mysql?02:25
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: why not, purge does remove files02:25
dr_willis look and see whats left in there?02:25
ZiberIt doesn't remove files. Or it didn't. And installing it back didn't put the files back.02:26
lee8oiWow....KDE is more responsive than Unity02:26
ZiberThoughts?02:26
schmitt953ubottu: no luck02:27
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: show the files02:27
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: no luck :(02:27
Ziberubuntu-tester1: Of?02:27
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: /var/lib/mysql02:27
ubuntu-tester1schmitt953: no luck with what02:28
schmitt953text only mode02:28
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: trying to make a 12.10 server for something using kvm02:28
schmitt953(qemu usermode)02:28
ZiberWell, I purged the package. After my purge, I rm -rf'd the directoy assuming reinstalling would bring them back. It didn't.02:29
schmitt953and the guest is not booting02:29
zebaszpi wanna try one of those ubottu commands, they look like a lot of fun :P02:29
bazhang!usage | zebaszp02:29
ubottuzebaszp: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots02:29
schmitt953ubuntu-tester-1: does the ubuntu server installer support spice (qxl vga)02:29
zebaszp!botsnack02:30
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:30
bazhangzebaszp, do it with /msg ubottu02:30
zebaszplol, this thing is full of surprises02:30
ZiberSo uh... now what?02:31
ubuntu-tester1schmitt953: and grub?02:31
schmitt953I'm using the vanilla 12.10 iso install cd02:31
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: the bootloader loads02:31
ZiberIs there a way to get the files I need back in /var/lib/mysql?02:31
ubuntu-tester1schmitt953: what options listed in grub02:32
schmitt953I select english and it dies02:32
lee8oiPurging unity02:32
schmitt953well not dies, just gives me a black screen02:32
ZiberAnyone?02:32
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schmitt953ubuntu-tester-1: rebooting the guest02:32
skinnymg1hello everyone02:33
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: what files fom the package are missing, example?02:33
schmitt953Language options start02:33
whoeverhi all, anyone using  or has used a trackball with ubuntu : I am looking at getting the kensington expert mouse, and would like  to know if I will have to make the left and right keys to get to work, or will I need to create some mouse config file to get the keys to function propperly02:33
schmitt953going to text mode02:33
schmitt953I type help and I get the options02:33
Ziberubuntu-tester1: /var/lib/mysql/*. I rm -rf'd that directory after the purge, no files were put back there after the install.02:33
dr_williswhoever:  the other day i noticed the arch linux wiki poages had some neat guides for a lot of the obscure mice and other input devices.  i learned a few tweaks to use on ubuntu from it. ;)02:34
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: would acpi be a reason for it hanging02:34
dr_willisZiber:  many packages/servers have a server package, then a config/data package with the support files02:35
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: and what should be there? list package contents, i don't have one02:35
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: dpkg -L |grep '/var/lib'02:35
whoeverdr_willis: the wikki off the home page  or some wikki articule barried within ? thx, and got a link02:35
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: trying acpi=off02:35
dr_williswhoever:  i just use the arch linux wiki search, or googles search02:36
cfhowlettwhoever, suggest you search kensington+trackball+ubuntu02:36
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: trying install text02:36
Ziberdr_willis: Can't find the config/data package for mysql server02:36
whoeverdr_willis: thx, cfhowlett thx02:36
ubuntu-tester1schmitt953: sorry, don't know much about qemu02:36
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: no luck :(02:36
schmitt953alright02:36
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: know any reason that the installcd should fail to boot02:37
ZiberSo, mysql-server data/config package?02:37
ubuntu-tester1schmidtm: oh, do you boot from cd image or vhd?02:38
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: I think it's an issue with audio and acpi02:39
ubuntu-tester1schmitt953: not likely, since text mode don't work either02:40
Guest38758hey. I'm somewhat new to ubuntu, can anyone point me in a direction for multitouch gestures?02:40
ZiberGuest38758: natural scrolling.02:40
ZiberI think it's a package.02:40
Ziber!info naturalscrolling02:40
Guest38758I tried touchegg but I don't think it supports the touchpad i have02:40
ubottuPackage naturalscrolling does not exist in quantal02:40
Ziber!info natural-scrolling02:40
ubottuPackage natural-scrolling does not exist in quantal02:40
Ziber!search natural scrolling02:40
ubottuFound:02:40
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: I'll let you know in a second02:41
pac1I'm having trouble with the 12.10 install disk.  It won't go beyond the first screen.02:41
ZiberOh, interesting. Purge mysql-server-5.5. Reinstall. "Unable to set password for root mysql user."02:41
cfhowlettpac1, hardware?02:42
pac1same hardware I installed every previous ubuntu.02:42
cfhowlettpac1, OK.  did you checksum your iso?02:42
pac1yes02:42
pac1the download anyway.02:42
Guest38758i don't think i can get natural scrolling02:43
pac1how to checksum the disk.02:43
cfhowlettpac1, and you're doing a clean install from USB?02:43
pac1clean install from dvd02:43
ZiberSo, anyone wanna try helping me with mysql?02:43
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cfhowlettpac1, we had a case recently where the ram had silently failed that sounds somewhat similar.  Suggest you do a hardware diagnostic.  Memtest for instance.02:44
zebaszpZiber, did you install mysql-server from a deb package?02:44
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: i realy didn't get what files are you searching for02:44
Ziberzebaszp: apt-get install mysql-server-5.502:45
gormanatorAnyone here have any multitouch gestures suggestions02:45
zebaszpZiber: try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5"02:45
ghsI'm with problem with the Eclipse. See the log: http://pastebin.com/PJvSEwYg How to fix that ?02:45
Ziberubuntu-tester1: there are supposed to be files in /var/lib/mysql with table information and such, for the tables in the mysql database.02:45
gormanatori don't mean to repeat myself so I apologize, I just thought it would be clearer with a username attatched to me02:45
Ziberzebaszp: "mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed."02:46
pac1Ziber do you have databases you are trying to preserve?02:47
Ziberpac1: Not on this server, not yet.02:47
ZiberI just want the damn thing to run.02:47
mjuszcza1Anyone know a good program for Ubuntu (12.04 Unity) that easily allows you to filter through photos?  I've got a ton I'd like to go through and delete the bad ones, etc.02:47
zebaszpZiber: try "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.5" (delete package cache and redownload it)02:47
mjuszcza1Some of them are blurry and others are duplicates, but there's like 2000+ and going through them manually will be annoying.02:48
pac1Ziber, what do you get when you use the mysql command?02:48
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whoeverdr_willis: thx again02:48
cfhowlettmjuszcza1, shotwell is the default photo manager in ubuntustudio ...02:48
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: from the package you install server, not any databases. you create db yourself afterwards, and all related files are put where you specify. maybe last time it was /var/lob/mysql accidentally02:48
GinTonicoolhi guys ,configure: error: cannot find sources (src/amule.cpp) in . or . DEBIAN SYSTEM,help me please02:49
mjuszcza1sweet, that's installed.  Thanks!02:49
zebaszpin case the package was downloaded incorrectly (which shouldn't happen, anyways)02:49
Ziberzebaszp: http://pastebin.com/MeeXHZhT02:49
Ziberpac1: It's not running.02:49
ubuntu-tester1mjuszcza1: darktable maybe02:49
whoevermjuszcza1: well what do you mean filter ? you can put the photos in to folders by year02:49
Ziberubuntu-tester1: It was a corrupt user table, when downloaded/installed via apt.02:49
bazhangGinTonicool, debian?02:49
whoeverthere is really nothing to filter on in a photo02:49
GinTonicoolyes,debian02:49
bazhangGinTonicool, #debian , not here02:50
ghsSomeone that uses Eclipse, can help ?02:50
zebaszpZiber: "sudo apt-get -f install" should fix it02:50
bazhangghs, tried the eclipse channel yet?02:50
GinTonicoolubuntu maybe the same with debian02:50
ghsbazhang, Yes. But, no response.02:50
bazhangGinTonicool, wrong02:50
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: there's no tables in the package, do you understand? check it yourself with my cmd above02:50
bazhangGinTonicool, /join #debian02:51
whoevermjuszcza1: you can write a quick script to grab the data about the image , ie: date taken and place all with date == xxxx into a specific folder02:51
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: I copied host cpu features, didn't have support, I guess it's not as customizable as Gentoo :(02:51
Ziberubuntu-tester1: it comes with the mysql database, which has a number of tables, for user access and things.02:51
mjuszcza1whoever: well that would help as a start.  Are dates stored with the photos themselves?  I have *years* of photos all in the root of $HOME/Pictures, completely unorganized.02:52
Ziberzebaszp: Didn't work. "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"02:52
mjuszcza1But the atime/mtime on them is definitely inaccurate as I've renamed some of them, etc.  Filtering by month/year would be awesome.02:52
whoevermjuszcza1: digikam02:52
zebaszpZiber: well that's weird, try "sudo dpkg -r mysql-server-5.5"02:53
mjuszcza1whoever: is that a CLI tool?02:53
escottmjuszcza1, there is usually a date inside the photo. exif information02:53
Ziberzebaszp: Alright, that removed it. Now try reinstalling?02:53
mjuszcza1ah, I just RTFM :) Thanks!02:54
zebaszpZiber: yup02:54
pac1ziber,  there's two pieces client and server.. Did you install both?02:54
ubuntu-tester1mjuszcza1: try Google Picasa first. it is freezed now, but last released version may suffice02:54
Ziberpac1: I have mysql-client installed. It's a server issue.02:54
zebaszpZiber: hopefully it'll work, but ultimately google will have an answer :P02:55
whoevermjuszcza1: its got . gui02:55
mjuszcza1Thanks ubuntu-tester1 and whoever02:55
ubuntu-tester1mjuszcza1: picasa automatically group pictures by year, month etc. (from EXIF)02:55
Ziberzebaszp: It's not working. There's some underlying issue here. http://pastebin.com/4fYgafPs02:55
schmitt953Ziber: why are you using mysql?02:56
schmitt953Ziber: Mysql is depricated now02:56
schmitt953s/depricated/deprecated02:56
Ziberschmitt953: Oh, yes, let's question my entire reason for being while we're at it.02:56
schmitt953Ziber: you could always upgrade to postgres02:56
ZiberThat's just simply not true. And I want to use it.02:56
schmitt953ok02:56
schmitt953Ziber: I'm curious why02:56
cfhowlettmjuszcza1, see this maybe  http://www.rileybrandt.com/2012/07/31/linux-photo-1/02:57
ZiberI hate with a passion when people, rather than trying to help me fix a problem, simply say "oh, just don't use it." That's not a solution.02:57
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: manuals have some steps after installing, did you follow?02:57
Ziberubuntu-tester1: I've installed mysql hundreds of times, I know how to do it. I've never seen this issue.02:58
cfhowlettZiber, suggest you also ask in the forums.  The answers you want may not be instantly available to you in the irc channel.02:58
schmitt953Ziber: xD02:58
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schmitt953Ziber: I do actually agree with you about that, I had people tell me not to use ethernet bonding on a bridged interface saying if I wanted to use a bridge for KVM that I simply can't use  dynamic link aggrigation02:59
schmitt953figured out the bug (3 hours of wireshark) and fixed it02:59
zebaszpZiber: I've done a little searching, it seems someone had a similar issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176360403:00
zebaszpZiber: ultimately, the part we care about is this: "sudo dpkg -P --force depends mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server-core-5.5 php5-mysql mysql-client-5.5 mysql-client-core-5.5"03:00
Ziberzebaszp: What's that do?03:01
ubuntu-tester1Ziber: if so, you can do it once more in a clean environment (virtual for ex), maybe on other ubuntu release, nail down those missing files and tell us at the end03:01
mjuszcza1sweet, thanks!03:01
cfhowlettmjuszcza1, http://www.enfew.com/image-editors-photo-organizer-for-ubuntu-linux/03:01
schmitt953why can't apt-get have USE flags like portage :(03:02
mjuszcza1cfhowlett: I think I'm writing a shell script to read the exif data and move the files from there.  Looks like it's working :) Thanks for your suggestions!03:02
pac1schmitt953, where do you get mysql is deprecated?03:02
cfhowlettmjuszcza1, great.  have fun, be safe.03:02
urlwolfcan unity use gnome shell extensions?03:02
schmitt953in response to zebaszp's solution to Ziber03:02
urlwolfconcretely shellshape03:02
zebaszpZiber: force-purges the packages and raises dependency errors03:03
schmitt953pac1: most people are switching to postgres9, ever since postgres9 came out (a long time ago) it now outperforms mysql and is more robust, in addition there are still many vulns in mysql03:03
schmitt953even php (IMO it is rather deprecated) is distancing itself from mysql03:03
pac1interesting... any articles on this subject?03:04
schmitt953pac1: look at postgresql 9 and its new features03:04
scott_hello03:04
schmitt953then tell me mysql is at all useful03:04
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Guest11162anybody?03:04
pac1I'm looking for independent published opinion...03:05
escotturlwolf, no03:05
schmitt953pac1: I'll find one, I can paraphrase a book that I have about administering databases03:05
ubuntu-tester1!ot | schmitt95303:05
ubottuschmitt953: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:05
schmitt953saying that postgresql is not a direct competitor to mysql and is more compariable with Oracle Database (no reason)03:06
schmitt953pac1: see you in #ubuntu-offtopic?03:06
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: Sorry for that we tend to be more relaxed about that in #gentoo-hardened :), feel free to visit sometime03:07
expressofaHi everyone, I have a critical problem at an unfortunate time. I've posted my problem to AskUbuntu but I was wondering if there was a place I could pay someone to focus on my problem. I don't need a whole year's worth of support (as offered by Canonical), I hope. Do I have any options or should I just try to bug people here until my problem is solved?03:07
whoeverexpressofa: first what is your problem03:08
cfhowlettexpressofa, "bug" people?  well, you could ASK people and MAYBE someone in the channel might have just the answer you want at the moment you ask.  You could even post on the forums...03:08
ubuntu-tester1schmitt953: that's because of lack of questions from i guess :)03:09
* whoever nodes at cfhowlett 03:09
expressofacfhowlett: I meant "ask very politely"03:09
expressofawhoever: best documented here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/243641/x-suddenly-stopped-working-cant-boot03:09
cfhowlettexpressofa, :)  I know.  so ask away.03:09
schmitt953ubuntu-tester1: I may be biased towards dev channels :)03:09
expressofaBasically boot fails, not sure what I did to instigate this or why it's happening or most importantly how I can fix.03:10
expressofaI believe that as soon as X tries to do something it blacks out the screen and then decides to become totally unresponsive.03:10
whoeverexpressofa: boot into recovery and select recover, and you are good to go03:10
ubuntu-tester1expressofa: if your're looking for paid support/administration, odesk may be the place to go03:10
expressofawhoever, I don't recall "recover" being an option. But I have tried all the options.03:11
expressofawhoever: most of them run fsck and then sit there blinking an underscore until I hit ctrl+c, then I get into a shell03:11
whoever expressofa here is one way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:13
expressofawhoever: it's been running fine since installing windows for like a few months....03:13
whoeverrun fsck -ya on /dev/sda103:13
expressofabut I can try that03:13
whoeverexpressofa: and the hard drive is interna0l03:14
whoeverwhen did it stop workin'03:14
whoevertoday, yesterday,03:14
expressofawhoever, yesterday I believe03:14
ronsonI have Ubuntu 12.04LTS on a server I lease, how can I change the way the disk is partitioned so I can allocate a chunk of space to one directory?  It has some predefined allocations which I don't like (found with df -h)03:15
whoeverexpressofa: here is the recovery i was talking about , works for me http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch08.html03:15
whoeverronson: create your dir you want to use then create a mount point for that directory in /etc/fstab03:16
ubuntu-tester1ronson: with parted03:16
whoeverubuntu-tester1: that works too03:16
expressofawhoever, what did you want me to do from that page? I've been doing recovery mode all day03:18
ubuntu-tester1expressofa: i suggest you get to the shell, and read through logs. or post it somewhere and ask someone to analyse03:19
whoeverexpressofa: if you hit escape it should bring up a recovery terminal with option and you select the kernel you want to recover , it will go to work and you should be up and running in about 20min03:19
escottronson, ?03:20
ronsonI'm supposed to have two drives on this server but only see one, how can I see the other drive?03:20
ubuntu-tester1expressofa: *analyze03:20
escottronson, cat /proc/partitions or "sudo parted -l"03:20
whoeverexpressofa: also if the data is this importand to you , why not have a backup of the data, or have a disk image03:20
expressofaubuntu-tester1: I read through logs and tried to post photos of the relevant ones, but if there's something else I should look for, I can try03:20
expressofawhoever: I have backups but I need to be productive and being productive means not being on Windows03:21
warrior_i have network printer lbp 810. but i cant print.. how to soft that problem and how to get LBP 810 printer driver03:21
expressofawhoever: is there documentation for this magic escape recovery console thing somewhere?03:22
ubuntu-tester1is network working? if yes, try to get the logs in text03:22
ronsonIs it dangerous to resize partitions that are raided?03:22
whoeverexpressofa: so then shouldn't a restore of the backup solve both problemms, youll be back at a known good point, with ubuntu and windows03:22
escottronson, its a little bit harder, but so long as they are unmounted its fine03:22
expressofawhoever: it's just file backups, not good comprehensive ones.03:22
expressofanot disk images03:22
expressofaunfortunately03:22
ubuntu-tester1ronson: almost as much as not raided i think03:23
whoeverexpressofa: so you don't even get grub ?03:23
expressofawhoever: I get grub03:23
ronsonI can't unmount a disk I'm using to ssh can I? :P03:23
expressofaI get all the way to here: http://i.imgur.com/f1Hxc.jpg03:23
whoeverexpressofa: so you get the ubuntu logo {03:23
whoever?\03:23
escottronson, no03:23
ronsonLooks like I'm stuck with this partitioning03:24
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BroUnicornOkay, I've got a big problem03:24
whoeverexpressofa: then when you get the ubuntu logo hit escape03:24
expressofaafter grub?03:24
BroUnicornI put in my ubuntu Dvd and everything opened great03:24
BroUnicornI pressed install03:24
expressofawhoever: I think it might freeze before escape could do anything, I'm not sure. I can try if you think that's the right course of action.03:24
BroUnicornThen it wanted to automatically partition the drive, so I let it. I have Mac and Windows already on here. It did some stuff for a while, then threw me a partitioning error. Now My Windows hard drive doesn't show up on my Mac desktop, or in disk utility on my mac. Also, it doesn't allow me into my windows. I can choose it from the boot menu but it won't load all the way. The windows load screen is up for a good few seconds before the screen turns blue03:26
BroUnicornmomentarily and then exits.03:26
Sylphielooks like ubuntu trashed your partition table03:27
whoeverexpressofa: if that is the case get a live linux disto and run the disc utilliity to check drive health, you may have bad secotores on the drive , and in that case your stuck, replace the drive (all docs I saw to low level formate to fix bad sectors only put a bandaid on the problem )03:27
BroUnicornSylphie: Yes. Yes it does. How do I go about being able to get back into my Windows?03:27
BroUnicornI understand some files may be lost.03:27
schmitt953I'm blanking on the command to upgrade to 12.10 from whatever version is running, anyone know it off the top of their head03:28
whoeverexpressofa: does the harddrive make any kind of loud noises03:28
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, first let's assume your Mac/Windows parts are present.03:28
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, so the install did NOT complete, right?03:28
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, and you're install on a Mac, I take it?03:28
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, a real Mac, not ihackintosh?03:28
SylphieBroUnicorn \ norton utilities (esp disk editor) might let you repair the partition table03:28
whoeverexpressofa: ie: "tricking"03:28
BroUnicornNo, it did not complete03:28
BroUnicornYes, I am on a real mac. Macbook pro c. mid 201003:28
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, OK .. is this a mac or a windows machine?03:29
BroUnicornMac.03:29
expressofawhoever: it's an SSD so no noise whatsoever03:29
BroUnicornSylphie: Okay, Where do I find that?03:29
expressofawhoever: also, fsck says nothing is wrong03:29
whoever BroUnicorn sudo atitude dist-upgrade03:29
SylphieBroUnicorn \ unfortunately norton utilities is commercial software you'd need to purchase03:30
BroUnicornSylphie: Is it expensive?03:30
BroUnicornwhoever: What's that?03:30
whoeverexpressofa: when did you get this ssd03:30
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Is there anything I can do?03:30
BlackDalekIf I remove all installed desktops (unity, gnome, etc.) with purge option then re-install unity desktop... would that clear any customized colour settings?03:30
expressofawhoever: recently, I got the computer less than 4 months ago03:30
whoeverexpressofa: also on linux the docs say to do cartin theings in bios or you'll get problems03:31
whoeverexpressofa: what brand is the ssd03:31
Sylphiehttp://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7071/norton-utilities03:31
BroUnicornSylphie: The problem is that I can't even get into the Windows…. I can begin to open it but it reaches the loading screen, loads for a few seconds, then is gone03:31
BroUnicornSylphie: Ahh. Scratch that03:32
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, I suspect you windows and mac partitions were not overwritten but your partition table was trashed.  You could try booting the ubuntu CD again to see if the other parts show up.  IF those partitions were truly overwritten, you could try to recover them with various tools,  but I'm no mac expert.03:32
expressofawhoever: OCZ Agility 403:32
SylphieBroUnicorn \ there might be other free disk utilities for your mac03:32
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Okay. The partitions were not overwritten, I'm almost sure you are correct. In which case, what do I need to do?03:33
BroUnicorncfhowlett: The partitions were not overwritten.03:33
BroUnicornI'm not sure why colloquy said that twice haha.03:33
SylphieBroUnicorn \ does OsX have anything liek a command line "fdisk" util?03:34
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, this is where I bail; I can't give mac advice, but assuming the data is present, recovery should be "easy"?03:34
expressofawhoever: in a root shell from GRUB I can access all my files (at least, the ones I tested)03:34
BroUnicorncfhowlett: I'm simply asking for ubuntu advice :D03:34
escottBroUnicorn, if the NTFS was resized its possible it was corrupted in the process. boot a windows rescue disk and see if you can run chkdsk on that disk03:34
BroUnicorncfhowlett: How can I fix this from Ubuntu? I believe that I may have even caused the issue by accidentally resizing something.03:35
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, understood, but there's that whole "bootcamp" thing.  Anyway, the MacTel crew can probably advise on this.03:35
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, wait 1 and I'lll get the link.03:35
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Okay, thanks03:35
Crazy_Spai_Greetings!03:35
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, also, check the mactel ubuntu forums.  You're neither the first nor the last ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages03:36
whoeverexpressofa: i read the reviews and some people write about wha your discribing... it sounds like you make just have a flawed drive03:36
whoeverexpressofa: is this the first time this has happend to you with this drive03:37
dr_willishard drives seem to be the weakest link these days in hardware.03:37
expressofawhoever: is there a definitive way to see if it's a hardware thing?03:37
expressofawhoever: yes, it's been stellar up to now03:38
BroUnicorncfhowlett: If I were to go back into my mac and add size back to what I accidentally removed it from, would it correct the issue?03:38
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Or would that do nothing.03:38
BroUnicornBack into ubuntu*03:38
whoeverexpressofa: since your were talking about windows on ssd , here is a link http://www.overclock.net/t/700470/tutorials-real-world-windows-7-ssd-tweaks-and-optimization03:39
SylphieBroUnicorn \ adding size back might zero the space you add. better to ask the macexperts first03:39
expressofawhoever: my windows installation is on a different HDD03:39
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, as I said, macs are beyond my experience.  When I hackintoshed my lappy, I configured OSX, then Win7 then Ubuntu, but that's not what you've got.  I'd suggest recovering the native OS first, OSX, then windows and finally ubuntu.03:39
whoeverexpressofa: well that is pretty much the test, unless you want to go bu another ssd to repeate the process , you have already done it03:40
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Surprisingly, OSX is perfectly fine03:40
BroUnicorncfhowlett: It's only windows having the problem03:40
whoeverexpressofa: ah, i assumed it was dual boot, but never the less the link minght help you03:40
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, OK. try windows "recovery/repair" with the windows disk03:41
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Meaning the disk that I originally installed it with?03:41
whoeverexpressofa: .... and just to make you fell better.... that will $6003:41
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, preferrably yes.03:41
expressofawhoever: cool, thanks, I'll read it over. If it's NOT a hardware thing, could the fact that I'm missing an xorg conf file have anything to do with it? Or maybe the apt-get upgrade I ran?03:41
whoeverexpressofa: +-)03:41
BroUnicornAlright03:41
dr_willisexpressofa:  xorg.conf is sort of optional these days03:42
expressofadr_willis: ah, ok. Do the error messages in my X log file mean anything to anyone?03:42
expressofahttp://i.imgur.com/L7Hp7.jpeg and http://i.imgur.com/5S9bY.jpeg for reference03:42
whoeverexpressofa: with no xorg.conf you would get server not connect errors03:43
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Do I do this while on OSX or Ubuntu? Or where do I put the cd in and try this?03:43
BroUnicorncfhowlett: I very much so appreciate the responses btw03:43
whoeverexpressofa: and what happend to your xorg.conf03:43
joshua__how do i get root access on xubuntu03:43
SylphieBroUnicorn \ better not to touch ubuntu again until you fix the partition table. a second time might really ruin things permanently03:44
Ben65joshua__: use sudo before the command you're trying to run03:44
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, no worries.  as far as installing windows on a mac, All I know is "bootcamp".  Check the Apple pages for the precise sequence.03:44
whoeverexpressofa: apt-get upgrade will not revome your xorg.conf03:44
cfhowlett!root|joshua__,03:44
ubottujoshua__,: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:44
joshua__why doesnt su work03:44
Ben65!root | joshua__03:44
ubottujoshua__: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo03:44
cfhowlettjoshua__, sudo su but you really shouldn't require that ...03:44
dr_willisjoshua__:  you dont su to root in ubuntu.03:44
BroUnicorncfhowlett: Okay, Update. In disk utility The bootcamp partition still shows up.03:44
BroUnicorncfhowlett:03:45
whoeverexpressofa: you should remembr how long from the time you installed ubuntu to the time it quit , and now reinstall ubuntu03:45
dr_willisjoshua__:  use sudo..   and dont do sudo su either03:45
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, good times.03:45
whoeverjust to make sure its not you03:45
Ben65yeah i didn't think "sudo su" was good03:45
BroUnicornSylphie: The bootcamp partition is still showing up in the Disk Utility, however when pressing Repair Disk It says "Repairing volume failed: Invalid request"03:45
whoeverand do you get any i/0 errors durring boot03:45
dr_willisyou caN SU TO OTHER NON-ROOT USERS03:45
dr_willisoops ;)03:45
joshua__?03:46
joshua__on linux mint i could dp it that way03:46
joshua__well thanks anyways03:46
dr_willisubuntu is not mint...03:46
BroUnicornwhoever: Me?03:46
whoeverBroUnicorn: no that for expressofa03:46
SylphieBroUnicorn \ I know little about macs, except that they used to be too expensive for my budget. But I do no a little about windows partition tables03:46
whoeverdr_willis: have you made the jump to ssds03:46
BroUnicornSylphie: Okay, so what should be my first steps in attempting to correct this? Or is my best bet still norton03:47
dr_williswhoever:  i have one..  bene lookingat getting more. but the sizes are still too small03:47
SylphieBroUnicorn \ ask the mac experts, they might know a free disk utility for OS X that might work03:48
BroUnicornAny mac users that can help me with a messed up partition table?03:48
expressofawhoever: where would I see IO errors? It says something about KVMs when booting that seemed strange.03:48
whoeverdr_willis: i think some brands arn't that reliable and yes the size on all brands is to small03:49
expressofawhoever: would reinstalling nuke all my data and configuration? I spent freakin' forever getting things set up right and it'd take forever to redo it all03:49
whoeverexpressofa: durring the boot process,  i think you can hit "i" durring boot to get the output03:49
dr_williswhoever:  i just have a 128gb one for my ubuntu install i got for $100 ons sale a few months back.  luckly linux makes it trivial  to have /home and daa drives on other  drives03:50
whoeverexpressofa: is it all on the same partition03:50
alexhairyman/etc/fstab magic03:50
expressofawhoever: yes03:50
whoeverdr_willis: where did you get it03:50
dr_williswhoever:  staples ;)03:50
cfhowlettBroUnicorn, http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=32803:51
whoeverexpressofa: well  do you have another hardrive03:51
dr_williswhoever:  saw 200gb in the $200 range the other day. but thats still too tiny.03:51
whoeverdr_willis: damn  is it still on sale03:51
whoeverdr_willis: what brand03:51
dr_williswhoever:  128gb goes for  about $100 on amazon i think03:52
BroUnicornThe hell is a Linux swap partition?03:52
expressofawhoever: I do, the one my Windows is on03:52
czzHi. Is there a way to find the directory location of a program I just installed?03:52
cfhowlett!swap|BroUnicorn,03:52
ubottuBroUnicorn,: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info03:52
dr_willisBroUnicorn:  where the swap data is kept03:52
dr_willisczz:  installed how?03:53
Ben65why am i getting tons of crash reports all of a sudden03:53
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whoeverdr_willis: I do data minning, (i guess you could call it ) so i have about 4T of satas03:53
SylphieBroUnicorn \ it's just like a windows swap file, except it gets it's own partition03:53
czzdr_willis, apt-get03:53
Gyro54Hi!03:53
cfhowlettczz, whereis foo03:53
cfhowlettGyro54, greetings03:53
dr_williswhoever:  i got a stack of 3TB usb hds for the wifes  shows ;)  and backups of her shows...03:53
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dr_willisczz:  the apt/package manager tools have a way to show what files it installed03:54
dr_willisczz:  what app? what are you trying to do with it?03:54
Gyro54How do I list all the computers on a local network to see if I have an ip conflict?03:54
dr_willisGyro54:  you could use nmap to scan the network03:54
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Ben65Gyro54: you should have a dhcp server to avoid stuff like that03:55
Gyro54Thanks dr_willis will do that!03:55
whoeverexpressofa: well remove that hard drive and place it in your linux box , boot up , do an fdisk -l to get the drive , mount that drive someware and create a folder to hold all data in , and then copy the data you want to that folder, unmount it, power off remove that harddrive and reinstall ubuntu03:55
whoeverthen you hook the drive back up ai]nd transfer your files back over03:56
Gyro54Ben65:  I have a DHCP win 2003 server but there is an error and everyone blames the Ubuntu machines.03:56
SylphieBroUnicorn \ if ubuntu overlaid a linux swap partition onto a part of what was your windows partition, then your windows is probably corrupted beyond repair03:56
expressofawhoever: it's the same computer, two HDDs03:56
Ben65Gyro54: I'd blame the windows dhcp server.... but anyway nmap is great, but if two machines have the same IP, it could be hard to determine03:57
czzdr_willis, I've already installed the app, just trying to file the folder of settings,files,etc03:57
BroUnicornI mean I have win clone with a working back up of windows, I just don't want to immediately jump to that because I would lose some recent things I've done03:57
whoeverdr_willis: ... does she watch them ,? i can't get mine to watch the ones she has on dvr03:57
Ben65czz: what did you install03:57
SylphieBen65 \ how many machines on your lan?03:57
czzBen65, Suricata03:57
Gyro54Ben65: Installing now!03:57
Ben65Sylphie: that doesn't matter, but about 1503:58
androidHello, World!03:58
dr_williswhoever:  she plays Little House on the Prarrie all day long... ;(03:58
dailiweirene03:58
RNK6hello03:58
RNK6im having some problems with wine03:59
whoeverdr_willis: ear plugs ... 80's heavy mettle03:59
whoeverdr_willis: i fell for you03:59
SylphieBen65 \ for only 15 machines "arp -a" should tell you about duplicate addresses03:59
whoeverRNK6: wow you don't have to cry about it03:59
RNK6whenever i try to run something it says there was a serios error04:00
dr_willis>hic< Wine is the answer.. not the problem....   ;) please  tell us whasat you are trying to run with it.04:00
whoeverRNK6:  so what the prob04:00
RNK6but those same things have platinum ratings on the winehq and ran fine 3 months ago04:00
Ben65hmm, i'm getting lots of segfaults on unrelated programs04:00
SylphieBen65 \ for only 15 machines "arp -a" should tell you about duplicate addresses04:01
android>04:01
Tom`hi04:01
Tam`hi04:01
Tam-hi04:01
Tom-hi04:01
whoeverRNK6: whine is a heaping pile of code and there will alway be problems with it, you best bet is to set up a windows VM and run all your windows programs in there04:01
Ankur_AgarwalI want to update kernel from 3.2 to 3.804:01
Ankur_Agarwalcan somebody help04:01
android> /var/log/auth.log04:01
RNK6yeah, i know that04:01
Tam-ask Tom Ankur_Agarwal04:01
androidoop wrong terminal04:01
Tam-he's good with that04:02
Tom-lol04:02
androidi'm drunk04:02
Ben65Tom- Tom` Tam-: do you really need 3 clients in here04:02
Tom-How are we all today?04:02
Tom`Ben65: its not 3 clients04:02
Tom`whois us04:02
Tam-dood, just watch our hosts..04:02
Ben65if you want to spam, go somewhere else04:02
Tom`howdy everyone!04:02
RNK6whoever: but i have nowhere near the power to do that, even with starcraft04:02
whoeverdr_willis: i thaught that movie was only 3 hours long, you should get the cliff notes, and quizz here .. "what happens at 85 minuts in "04:02
RNK6whorever: which is about 14 years old04:03
Tom-This is awesome04:03
Tom-Ben65, we're not spamming?04:03
Ben65!ot04:03
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:03
Tam`Tam`: How are we today?04:03
Tom`Ben65: we are just friendly ubuntu users, seeking a community04:04
whoeverrmbell: you should not be playing games in wine, or a vm, make windows your host and ubunu your guest, , get more ram, still not enough power then you need a new box04:04
Ben65this is the support channel, this isn't to show off how you can have 3 ip addresses, we're not impressed. take it elsewhere if you don't have a question04:04
Gyro54Ben65: Thats very useful. No conflicts. Thanks04:04
alexhairymanTom- Tam` Tom`, I bet you guys have wicked parties, do you complete each others sentences too?04:05
Tom-Tom` what are you doing today?04:05
rmbellwhoever:  tab completion failed you there :P04:05
Tam`alexhairyman: Nope04:05
Tam-we don't04:05
Tom-No party04:05
Tam`Whois us all04:05
BroUnicornSo anyone know how I can fix my partition table? My windows partition still exists but is not bootable04:05
Ankur_AgarwalTom can you help me ?04:06
Ben65!ask | Ankur_Agarwal04:06
ubottuAnkur_Agarwal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:06
Tom- Which tom?04:06
Tom`Ankur_Agarwal: with?04:06
Ankur_Agarwali want to update kernel 3.2 to 3.804:06
SylphieBroUnicorn \ what were saying about a linux swap partition?04:06
BroUnicornSylphie: I just didn't know what it was.04:06
Tom`Ankur_Agarwal: i believe you have a launchpad for that?04:06
alexhairymanrmbell, how so?04:06
alexhairymanoops04:06
Tam-yes Ankur_Agarwal?04:06
Tom-ankur_agarw, apt-get update ?04:06
whoeverrmbell: y, thank you my good man , yes it dit04:07
Ben65Ankur_Agarwal: which version of ubuntu04:07
whoeverRNK6: you should not be playing games in wine, or a vm, make windows your host and ubunu your guest, , get more ram, still not enough power then you need a new box04:07
Ankur_Agarwalapt-get update dont show 3.8.04:07
Tom-wait.. 3.8 exists?04:07
alexhairymanAnkur_Agarwal, compile it04:07
Tom`Ankur_Agarwal: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/04:07
alexhairymanTom- some release candidate I believe04:07
Tom-We need more tom/tam's Get moar symbols boys!04:08
Tom`Tom-: we need unicode names04:08
Tam`Oh yes unicode ♥04:08
deus-exgot a major problem04:08
Tam`If only feff was valid in nicks.04:08
Ben65!ot |  Tom- Tom`  Tam-04:08
ubottuTom- Tom`  Tam-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:08
deus-exi just updated ubuntu after a few weeks with no internet access04:09
SylphieBroUnicorn \ a mac guru might be able to help you fix the partition from os x, but there's a 50/50 chance critical stuff in the windows partition has been overwritten and thus require a reinstall of windows04:09
Tom-deus-ex what's your problem?04:09
Tom`Ben65: i helped someone already04:09
deus-exand now x can't find my screen04:09
Tam-Ben65: what did I say ?04:09
Ben65!ops04:09
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Tam-don't drag with them04:09
Tam-+me04:09
Tom-Tom`:What did you do yesterday?04:10
Tom`Ben65: i answered a question i knew how to answer, im not being useless04:10
Tom`therefor we are following rules04:10
Ben65not the offtopic rule04:10
Tom-How are we offtopic?04:10
Ben65<Tom-> Tom`:What did you do yesterday?04:10
Tom`Ben65: he has turrets04:11
evilthoughtI am trying tune2fs but doesn't seem to work. Can anyone look at http://pastebin.com/p7KnXzwJ .. what am I doing wrong?04:11
Tam-why am I involved with that Ben65?04:11
RNK6whoever: but this worked just fine up until now, and it has platinum rating on the wine appdb04:11
Tom`RNK6: wine is very version specific04:12
Tom`please refer to the tested conditions others used04:12
Tom-Tom` Where should we go tomorrow?04:12
deus-excan anyone help me with an x issue?  The latest batch of ubuntu updates have broken something and now x won't detect my screens04:13
Tom`Tom-: probably fedora04:13
vedicHow much memory a process is allowed to lock? I am using SPhinx search mlock call which actually calls mlock(2) . I am getting Warning for not able to lock memory. How to fix this?04:13
Tom-Tam1 You too04:13
evilthoughtCan anyone look at http://pastebin.com/p7KnXzwJ .. what am I doing wrong?04:13
expressofawhoever: is there a way to reinstall X in case it got corrupted somehow?04:13
Tom-Tam` *04:13
deus-extried that04:13
RNK6tom': i have the latest release of 1.4 wine and it was given a platinum rating for starcraft04:13
Tam`I'm going to join Tom` with Fedora. :)04:13
Tom-Same, sounds like a plan. :D04:13
FlannelTom-, Tam-, Tom`, et al.  Please take the social chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic, so we can keep this channel support only, thanks.04:13
Ankur_Agarwalthese are debian files so i need not to compile them bt just install them?04:14
Tom`Tam`: Tom- ect, wanna go to offtopic and be nice?04:14
Tom-Ankur_Agarwal: bt -> backtrack?04:14
Tam`Tom`: Sure04:14
Tom-Nahh they are just gonna have to kick us all. :)04:14
Tam`Tom-: lol...04:15
Ankur_Agarwalbut04:15
whoeverexpressofa: yes04:15
cubhow do i make ubuntu look like windows 95?04:16
Sylphiecub \ ewwww04:16
cub?04:16
daxuse GTK2 apps and the Raleigh theme. I assume there's a Windows 95 window decorations theme out there somewhere04:16
Shortstraw8Where/how do I find my ssh/pub key? I don't remember creating one for this computer04:16
giorgiserver irc.mibbit.net04:17
Sylphiecub \ anyways, kde looks sort of like win95, so you could do a kubuntu configuration04:17
giorgioops04:17
evilthoughtwhat am I doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/p7KnXzwJ04:17
giorgilol04:17
daxKDE looks nothing like Windows 95.04:17
Tam-kde > gnome.04:17
cubok04:17
cubif i cant get that then04:17
cubhow do i make it look like amiga04:18
Sylphiekde looks more like win95 than any of the other WMs04:18
whoeverexpressofa: expressofa but you would be much better off doing it the way i described, backing up and reinstalling, because it will be much more work to do what your wanting to do04:18
Ben65evilthought: you want to put the device in there, not the device and mount point merged together04:18
dr_willisslystone:  not really... go get IceWM and its themes04:18
expressofawhoever: this laptop has a discrete and an integrated graphics card that it switches between based on AC status and stuff. Could it be that it shut down in one and then is trying to boot up with the other or something? Or maybe there's saved hibernation data that's corrupted?04:18
deus-excan anyone help me with an x issue?  The latest batch of ubuntu updates have broken something and now x won't detect my screens04:19
Sylphiedeus-ex \ is this nvidia?04:19
whoeverexpressofa: what ... i have never heard of a laptop with two graphics cards that changed witch one controlled graphics from what the current power state is04:20
deus-exSylphie: yes04:20
evilthoughtsudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdb1/ still doesn't work nor does sudo tune2fs -m 0 /media/owner/WD_Drive .. same error04:20
expressofawhoever: okay, so maybe it doesn't do that. But I feel like that could cause confusion to X04:20
Shortstraw8Can anyone help me locate my  my ssh/rsa key that I do not remember making and now can't fin is there an terminal command?04:20
whoeverexpressofa: hibirnation does not start untill you atleast get to the logon screen04:21
expressofawhoever: I know it runs some programs with discrete using optirun04:21
Sylphiedeus-ex \ were you using the open source driver or the proprietary driver?04:21
deus-exproprietary I believe04:21
expressofabut also maybe Windows told it to use discrete and that messed things up? I dunno how GPU state is handled between shutodwns04:21
Ben65evilthought: don't have a slash at the end of sdb104:21
Ben65evilthought: its not a directory04:21
deus-exSylphie \ proprietary I believe04:21
Sylphiedeus-ex \ you might try the open source driver then, just for the short term04:22
evilthoughtok thabks04:22
deus-exhow can I switch to that from the command line?04:22
whoeverexpressofa: that uould probably be wheatthre or not the the display will display on battery with x% of battery life left04:22
deus-exSylphie \ how can I switch to that from the command line?04:22
escottexpressofa, it likely depends on hot or cold shutdown04:22
whoeverexpressofa: brb smk 3004:22
vedicHow much memory a process is allowed to lock? I am using SPhinx search mlock call which actually calls mlock(2) . I am getting Warning for not able to lock memory. How to fix this?04:22
SylphieI'm thinking. I don't use a nvidia, I just see a lot of people with the same exact trouble you'be got04:23
expressofaescott: any way I can give it a cleansing bath of Bash commands and clean up whatever mess might be hanging around?04:23
Sylphiedeus-ex \ it seems the nvidia drivers aren't so good for a lot of people04:23
Ben65nvidia drivers are fine04:23
dr_williscompared to some of the disasters ive seen with other drivers. ;)04:24
escottexpressofa, a full shutdown (vs a reboot) should get the firmware to boot in the default settings04:24
Shortstraw8Can anyone help me find my rsa/ssh key that I do not remember making? is there a command in terminal? I need it for git so I can start programming for school.04:24
SylphieBen75 \ nvidia drivers are like the number 1 video complaint04:24
deus-exSylphie \ I didn't switch drivers when I updated, and I don't think it switched because there were beta versions I wasn't using04:25
escottShortstraw8, your rsa ssh key would be in ~/.ssh/id_rsa04:25
SylphieAti drivers being the number 2 video complaint04:25
Ben65Sylphie: its also the number one used driver04:25
Ben65deus-ex: so what happened?04:26
jubeihello guys. Everything was working fine but all of a sudden the nvidia driver decided to stop working04:26
jubeiany ideas how to troubleshoot it?04:27
Ben65jubei: define "all of a sudden"04:27
dr_willisreinstall the nvidia driver perhaps04:27
Shortstraw8escott, tried that gave me no such file or directory04:27
jubeiBen65, went home, came back to the office next day booted up, resolution was weird04:27
dr_willismove/rename your xorg..conf and restart the xx serrver as another test04:27
jubeiBen65, tried to load nvidia-xconfig thingie and it told me the nvidia driver isn't running04:27
Ben65jubei: nvidia-settings?04:28
SylphieBen65 \ drivers arent suppose to suddenly stop working04:28
jubeiBen65, yes nvidia-settings04:28
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Ben65then yeah, i'd try reinstalling nvidia as dr_willis suggested04:28
escottShortstraw8, then you dont have your key on that computer04:28
jubeiso nvidia-settings tells to run nvidia-xconfig as root to fix it04:28
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jubeiI did that but nvidia-xconfig said it cannot find xorg.conf (as far as I remember ubuntu doesn't use that anymore, right?)04:29
Ben65right04:29
dr_willisi have an xorg.conf on my nvidia ssytems.04:29
dr_willisbut its only needed for special settings04:29
Ben65well to be more accurate, ubuntu doesn't _need_ xorg.conf anymore04:29
dr_willis12.10 auto configured my nvidia cards with nvidia drivers without an xorg.conf for the most part04:29
jubeiany ideas on how to proceed?04:29
dr_willisnvidia-xconfig -a   should generate a xorg.conf for your system i belive04:30
dr_willisthen restart the x server and see if it loads uo annd uses the nvidia drivers04:30
Shortstraw8escott, when I try what bitbucket has to set up git it tells me that I have one. So I have been looking through ubuntu help and get the same message entering what they say.04:30
jubeihttp://codepad.org/KhHwYvHg04:31
escottShortstraw8, if you created an rsa key it would be in ~/.ssh/id_rsa unless you specified an alternate location (and why would you do that)04:31
dr_willisjubei:  looks to me like its not loading the nvidia drivers04:32
escottShortstraw8, its possible you created a dsa key instead of rsa or an elliptic curve key of some kind04:32
Ben65jubei: could you pastebin "lsmod" and "dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia"04:32
Shortstraw8escott,  do i just switch rsa and dsa to find out?04:32
escottShortstraw8, baring your putting the key in a strange location it would be in ~/.ssh04:32
deus-exSylphie \ I'm also getting an error that my Nvidia driver doesn't match the kernel version04:33
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deus-exand I can't download the correct version from apt-get04:33
Ben65deus-ex: did you install it from the website04:33
rkhshmmy laptop which is running 12.04 lists VPN in network settings but my office desktop also running 12.04 does not list VPN at all..04:33
rkhshmis there any pkg i need to install to get setup VPN in the first place?04:33
Shortstraw8escott,  When I enter that I get (Is a directory)04:34
jubeiBen65, http://codepad.org/jLyZcWTb04:34
deus-exBen65: No, only apt-get.  I don't think I can use their website - my only browser access right now is through lynx04:34
coknok so i did minimal install i have no unity and gnome install i want to install mate desktop while adding repo og mate in source list getting gpg error no key found while updating?04:34
Ben65deus-ex: no its good, installing the drivers from the site could cause problems04:34
deus-exok04:35
escottShortstraw8, yes it is a directory04:35
deus-exi got the 304 driver to install04:35
deus-exBen65: got the 304 driver to install, removing the old one, not sure how to activate the new one from the commandline04:35
coknok so i did minimal install i have no unity and gnome install i want to install mate desktop while adding repo og mate in source list getting gpg error no key found while updating?04:36
jubeiBen65, In case you missed it: http://codepad.org/jLyZcWTb04:36
Ben65jubei: what does "uname -r" say04:36
jubeioh sorry^^04:36
Ben65no problem :)04:37
jubei3.5.0-21-generic04:37
dr_willis!gpg04:37
ubottugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts04:37
Shortstraw8escott, so when I enter mkdir ~/.ssh  I'm not making a new ssh so would I already have one? Sorry I'm new to this.04:37
dr_willishmm there a factoid on finding  gpg keys04:37
Ben65jubei: sudo apt-get install nvidia-common nvidia-experimental-310-dev nvidia-settings-experimental-310 linux-headers-generic04:37
Shortstraw8escott,  So would I use ssh-keygen -t rsa?04:38
jubeiBen65, so what happened I got a kernel upgrade and the driver stopped working?04:38
escottShortstraw8, you said you wanted to find your ssh key. it would be in the folder ~/.ssh. Unless you did something really strange when you ran ssh-keygen thats where it would be04:38
cokndr_willis: i have gpg key but when i am adding it it says connection refused no pgp data found04:38
Ben65jubei: i'm not sure, but you're missing a couple packages that should have come with the driver04:38
escottShortstraw8, ssh-keygen will prompt you through the process of generating a new key04:38
jubeiBen65, I see. Thanks so much for the help! Appreciated!04:38
dr_williscokn:  could be their key server is down.   you may want to check the mate support forums/channels04:39
Ben65jubei: it might not be done after that command though04:39
jubeiBen65, let me restart the xserver brb04:39
cokndr_willis:  ok i will try04:39
jubeiBen65, it worked like a charm thank you!!04:40
Ben65jubei: awesome04:40
Shortstraw8escott, Yeah I haved looked through ALL my folders and can't find it.04:40
deus-exBen65: by doing a sudo apt-get purge nvidia* I got a basic gui up and running04:41
escottShortstraw8, you could just generate a new one. ssh keys are not as important as gpg identity keys. in fact its normal to have a different one for each machine04:42
Ben65deus-ex: but you still want nvidia?04:42
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Shortstraw8escott, OK so stupid question I don't need to erase the exsisting one?04:43
escottShortstraw8, you shouldn't leave a key on bitbucket that no longer identifies you04:44
Shortstraw8escott, Ok thank you thank you!!04:44
deus-exwell yeah, the resolution is at like 640x48004:45
escottShortstraw8, honestly think of it like a key. keep it safe... if it gets stolen or a copy gets lost. think about changing the locks04:45
deus-exBen65: yeah, the resolution is at like 640x480 i'd like to use my graphics card04:45
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Shortstraw8escott, I have been looking for that for an hour04:45
escottShortstraw8, ie generate a new key to replace it, upload the new public key, and disable the old public key04:45
escottShortstraw8, it doesn't cost you anything to create a new one04:45
Sylphiedeus-ex \ you might try the neuvou driver if the nvidia driver is a failure04:45
escottShortstraw8, i don't know why you would bother looking for more than a minute honestly04:46
Ben65deus-ex: which card do you have04:46
Shortstraw8escott, I'm new to this and did'nt want to mess anything up.04:46
Shortstraw8escott, I appreciate your help.04:47
deus-exBen65: Not sure, it's been a while since I bought the computer.  How do I find out?04:48
BroUnicornAlright so04:53
BroUnicornFew more questions. I figured out how I can save my files (for anyone following my issues today)04:54
BroUnicornI can access the files on my trashed partition table windows partition from ubuntu. However, I don't have full access to Macintosh HD or Windows, so how can I edit my administrative privileges to where I can move files between them easily from ubuntu?04:55
spizzoI resized my ubuntu partition and installed fedora, but did not allow fedora to install its bootloader; how do I add fedora as an option to ubuntu's bootloader?04:56
BroUnicornWhen I say I don't have full access, I mean that it won't let me move my files to my Mac hard drive. Says I don't have permission.04:56
rkhshmi'm not able to see the VPN tab at all in network settings on 12.0404:56
rkhshmany ideas of what is going on here?04:56
rkhshmmy laptop has the same OS version but there I'm seeing the VPN tab but not on my desktop04:56
raz__hello04:57
dr_willisjello05:00
BroUnicorndr_willis: Hello, would you mind answering merely a few more questions for me?05:01
dr_willisBroUnicorn:  i can try.05:01
escottBroUnicorn, are you sure it was permissions and not that the hfs+ was read only05:02
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BroUnicornescott: It very well could have been that..05:02
dennyabrain.05:02
escottBroUnicorn, i believe that the current hfs tools disable writing to HFS+ when the journal is enable05:02
escottd05:03
BroUnicornescott: Okay, that makes sense. What's the journal, and can I disable it in order to save some files?05:03
escottBroUnicorn, http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write05:03
rkhshmany solutions guys?05:05
rkhshm12.04 has by far been the worst releases.. can't believe it05:06
BroUnicornOkay, I really appreciate it. Although this leads to another question or two. When I click "try ubuntu" terminal doesn't seem to be on the os. How do I get it on there?05:06
dr_willisBroUnicorn:  alt-ctrl-t or use the dash search feature to sesrch for 'terminal'05:06
djonohello is it possible to delete my windows partition and join it with my linux partition?05:07
igor__i'm having trouble installing a game05:10
igor__can someone help05:11
Theodorehi igor__05:11
igor__hi05:11
Theodorewhat game05:12
NexQuick question about the dock. I upgraded from 10. something to 12.04 and now it's always on top of my windows. That's valuable screen space I would like back. And no, autohide is not what I'm looking for. Thanks.05:12
igor__supermeatboy05:12
igor__linux distro05:12
dksainihello05:12
joe9this is my "sudo crontab -l" http://codepad.org/ZavUVt78 and I get these messages in auth.log: http://codepad.org/WdR4OUuk . Any thoughts on what I am missing, please?05:13
dksainihow i can install TVS MSP 250 dot matrix printer05:13
igor__anyone?05:14
dksainihello05:15
dksainihello05:15
dksainihello05:15
FloodBot1dksaini: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:15
djonohello is it possible to delete my windows partition and join it with my linux partition?05:15
dksainihow i can install TVS MSP 250 dot matrix printer05:16
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HappyJoeHey guys do you know to monitor temps in Kubuntu or lower cpu freqency?05:17
joe9whereas when I run the same from the command line everything works fine: "sudo service ssh restart" works fine. but from cron, I get that dbus error05:18
HappyJoeNo one can help :(05:20
NexQuick question about the dock. I upgraded from 10. something to 12.04 and now it's always on top of my windows. That's valuable screen space I would like back. And no, autohide is not what I'm looking for. Thanks.05:20
escott!info sensors | HappyJoe05:21
ubottuHappyJoe: Package sensors does not exist in quantal05:21
HappyJoecool05:21
escottHappyJoe, lm-sensors rather05:22
escottHappyJoe, there was a cpufreq utility in the past, but you can directly manage the governor through /sys05:22
psusiHappyJoe, cpu frequency is automatically raised and lowered as demand requires05:23
escottjoe9, cron execve's the line. it doesn't have a backing sh05:23
renzyyyhello05:23
HappyJoeThanks05:23
joe9escott: any suggestions on what I should be doing, please?05:23
NexQuick question about the dock. I upgraded from 10. something to 12.04 and now it's always on top of my windows. That's valuable screen space I would like back. And no, autohide is not what I'm looking for. Thanks.05:23
escottjoe9, for multi-line things you want to run in cron you should have cron run a shell script with your desired shell05:23
joe9escott: ok, I will break it 2 lines in the cron script.05:24
joe9escott: will that help?05:24
escottjoe9, why not just put those in a shell script and call that shell script?05:24
Abhijithello. any ffmpeg libavg expert here?05:25
renzyyyanyone able to assist me with a touchpad issue reading as "PS/2 Generic Mouse" ...?05:25
escottjoe9, also running something in cron every 10 minutes is a bit too often05:26
BroUnicornOkay so, I don't know how to fix my trashed partition table.05:26
joe9escott: I was just testing that out. it does not run every 10 mins, once every 10th minute of the hour, isn't it?05:26
BroUnicornI'm attempting to just delete the windows partition so I can restore it to a backup, but it won't even let me do that.05:27
escottjoe9, yeah nevermind05:27
NexQuick question about the dock. I upgraded from 10. something to 12.04 and now it's always on top of my windows. That's valuable screen space I would like back. And no, autohide is not what I'm looking for. Thanks.05:27
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escottjoe9, you might want to investigate why you are having to restart your tunnel. that would seem to be the real problem05:27
escottjoe9, you can ask ssh to send keep alives, or keep the channel open for a longer period of time05:27
joe9escott: yes, I have the keepalives and all that sorted.05:28
joe9I have ssh and autossh in the boot process too.05:28
joe9escott: I was just trying to restart from cron as a backup measure.05:28
joe9escott: at this point, I am just testing it out.05:29
wormI have just installed a new Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86_64 with btrfs for /. However when I boot, I see something like "ERROR: sparse file not allowed". I pressed somekey to continue and found no problem. What happened?05:30
escottworm, thats going to be awful. would strongly recommend you switch back to ext405:31
Inoushell all05:32
Inoushello*05:32
NexQuick question about the dock. I upgraded from 10. something to 12.04 and now it's always on top of my windows. That's valuable screen space I would like back. And no, autohide is not what I'm looking for. Thanks.05:32
InousI'm in need of some help05:32
InousI'm using ubuntu 12.0405:33
dr_williswhat do you want instead of aut ohideing?05:33
dr_willis! ask05:34
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:34
wormBut I've heard that someone recommend me to use btrfs for the new features, and the system is already installed. Will that cause any problems or how can I ignore such notification?05:34
dr_willisworm:  btrfs is experimental05:34
NexI want it to function how it previously did. If I go to the desktop it's there, but if I'm in a window I want it to stay behind what I'm doing.05:34
wormdr_willis: I think that he is looking for the dock in 11.04 to 11.10... That dock is much better.05:35
dr_willisNex: the intelihude feature is. gone. autohide or always show are the options05:35
wormdr_willis: I know that it is experimental, but I think that to try something experimental is important.05:36
NexWhich is bogus.05:36
dr_willis! btrfs05:36
ubottuBtrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs05:36
NexI'm aware that it's gone, but is there any way to correct that horrible mistake in judgment?05:36
NexWhoever decided it should behave as it currently does needs slapped around a good bit.05:37
dr_willislook for unofficial ppas or replacements perhaps05:37
dr_willisthe code had major bugs I recall05:37
dr_willisit was discussed in blogs ages ago05:37
NexI'm incredibly new to ubuntu. I'm not sure how to do, or understand, much of anything05:38
dr_willisbest fix is to use autohide then05:38
polarhi05:38
polaranybody here?05:39
worm!help|polar05:39
ubottupolar: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:39
dr_willisI always use always show05:39
NexBleh, that's craptastic and a half. Autohide is a nuisance.05:39
dr_willis! brainstorm05:39
ubottuPost your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!05:39
polarafter installing ubuntu, can i upgrade it to ubuntu server later from within ubuntu?05:39
dr_willispolar: theres no upgrade to do.05:40
NexIf I wasn't using a laptop I would mind a lot less but it's a horrible waste of screen space.05:40
dr_willispolar: install the services you need05:40
dr_willisyou can change the icon sizes nex05:40
mesquka!patience05:41
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:41
Nexyeah, but that isn't really the issue you know? It seems like my only real options are to make it slightly less bothersome, and try to ignore it05:41
dr_willisthe ussue is the big bugs in intelihide...05:42
polari have win7 dell i3 laptop with 4G RAM. i am running a application which takes up 100% of the processor. And if i continue to run, it overheats. That application has ubuntu version too...Will using it in ubuntu help with using less processor?05:43
dr_willisso pick the options mentioned that you want.05:43
dr_willispolar: what app?05:43
polarthat application's name is GNS3 - it is a networking simulator05:43
NexI find it hard to believe there isn't a million and one code monkeys out there that can make a dock that works well and doesn't break all the time...05:43
dr_willisodd it can overheat a cpu.05:44
dr_willis! dick05:44
dr_willis! dock05:44
ubottuUbuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.05:44
dr_willis:)05:44
renzyyylol...05:44
polarif i use more than 8 router simulators at a time in that app, yes, my laptop overheats05:44
polarso my question is, will i see less processor usage when i use the app in ubuntu?05:46
dr_willisi see gns3 mentioned here every so often. never used it.. if no one else in here knows. you may want to check on askubuntu.com and the forums about it.05:47
polarGNS3 is used by networking professional to simulate networks, these simulators works exactly like CISCO routers and switches used in the industry. so it is very helpful to build and study and test complex networks, As for me , I am a student studying for CCIE exam.05:49
dr_willismy degree is in Agricultural Engineering. ;)05:49
polarwow05:50
dr_willisI cant even comprehend what a network simulator would actually simulate.. ;P05:50
dr_willisor why it would run so fast it would need to overload the cpus so much05:50
polarFor example, if you have like a highlllyyyyyy capable server which is extreeeemely powerful, GNS3 is capable of simulating your entire ISP including you and me05:51
dr_willisBut  as i said.. askubuntu.com or the forums may have some info on its  useabilty05:51
polarok05:52
dr_willisunless anyone else in here knows.. but if they did , they would have chimmed in by now i imagine05:53
* Not_a_cop Hi everyone06:02
sandeeprhi, i'm installing a packgae06:03
sandeeprand when i do ap-get install <package>06:03
sandeepri get this error06:03
sandeeprFailed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-gflags/python-gflags_1.5.1-1build1_all.deb  Hash Sum mismatch06:03
sandeeprE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?06:03
Guest31016hello, how could i change grub to lilo?06:03
sandeeprany idea how to get past this?06:04
* Not_a_cop can someone query me, I have some questions about nmap..06:04
* Not_a_cop I'm sure someone out here uses nmap..06:05
Abhijit!ask | Not_a_cop06:05
ubottuNot_a_cop: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:05
* Not_a_cop oh that's right, sorry!06:05
Abhijitsandeepr, do sudo apt-get update and then try to install the package06:06
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sandeepri did both apt-get update and upgrade06:06
sandeeprdid not help06:06
dr_williscould be its currupted on the server06:06
sandeeprcould anyone check if it works for them06:08
Abhijitsandeepr, you can go to packages.ubuntu.com and download yourself06:09
InousI really need some help06:11
Inousif anyone had some time06:11
InousI'd aprreciate it06:11
dr_willisstte the issue see who can answer06:11
madpropsis the notification area modular? i want to use the battery monitor on my tray...06:11
dr_willisstate06:11
Not_a_copIs there anyway I can edit or create a file in gedit using the terminal? The only thing I've accomplished with this so far is installing the plugs-ins and being able to create files in gedit however, it opens gedit. I don't want it to open gedit.06:11
dr_willisNot_a_cop:  theres dozens of console based text editors06:12
madprops!ask Inous06:12
serioushow to check that may nvidea driver is installed in blackbuntu06:12
Inousthanks06:12
dr_willisNot_a_cop:  and other ways to 'create a file' without using a text editor06:12
madprops!ask | Inous06:12
ubottuInous: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:12
dr_willisserious:  package manager tools show whats insgtalled... nvidia-setting shows whats in use06:13
dr_willis!version06:13
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »06:13
InousMy friend is allowing me to use his ubuntu server to install a dedicated server for Counterstrike06:13
Inousbut I'm using putty to login06:13
sandeepri'm setting up openstack, so apt-get is the best option rather than manual download06:13
Not_a_copI know there are other text editors. I just wanted to create text files in the terminal and then later be able to open them using gedit. What other ways can I create a file without using a text editor?06:13
madpropsNot_a_cop: touch filename06:14
dr_willisNot_a_cop:    echo 'this is going into a file'  > file.txt06:14
InousMy friend is allowing me to use his ubuntu server to install a dedicated server for Counterstrike, but I'm using Putty to login via SSH. Is there a way I can login in to a remote desktop? If not how can I install a remote desktop in order to install the dedicated server06:14
dr_willisyou can edit things in vi or nano or other editors and  then edit them later in gedit...06:14
dr_willisInous:  ssh  and the x forwarding feature. or vnc.06:15
giNeeRingHow can I reload the kernel that came with my install?06:15
dr_willisInous:  or  freenx06:15
giNeeRingI modified it according to a guide and now have errors06:15
Not_a_cophm. Thanks guys @madprops &  dr_willis06:15
dr_willisgiNeeRing:  modified what exactly?06:15
Not_a_copAnother question I have is: why is it that I am not able to join #aircrack-ng? It tells me that I need to be verified or something.. (+r) BTW this is literally my first time using irc. I saw a video of weechat it seems legit so far.06:17
skp1Not_a_cop: gtfo06:17
dr_willisNot_a_cop:  most likely you need to I Register with the services06:18
seriousi'm getting error when downloading any app  from software center "failed to download respository information"06:18
dr_willis!register06:18
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode06:18
seriousany1 help me06:18
giNeeRingdr_willis, followed a guide for a Airlink wireless card, then did kernel config, and I get06:18
giNeeRingError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.6 (i686)06:18
giNeeRingjust one of the errors06:18
dr_willisserious:  try a different software source/server/repo perhaps?06:19
Not_a_copI'm serious I've never used irc before. What does +r mean?06:19
seriousbut how to ?06:19
dr_willisgiNeeRing:  if you never did a make install. then it dosent sound like anything installed06:19
giNeeRingi did a make install06:19
dr_willisNot_a_cop:  REGIESTERED nicks only06:19
seriousi'm new on blackbuntu06:19
dr_willis!register | Not_a_cop06:19
ubottuNot_a_cop: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode06:19
giNeeRingE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:20
Not_a_copoohh, simplicity can be so confusing when you don't know it. and thanks ubottu06:20
giNeeRingdr_willis, I'm running Bt5 r3, have the install on a hard disk, how could I go about resetting it.06:21
dr_willisgiNeeRing:  you can insrall/remove kernels via the package manager tools. and backtrack has its own support channels.06:21
dr_willis!bt06:21
giNeeRingI know, but it is based off of ubuntu06:21
giNeeRingand no help in the channel06:22
dr_willisdosent matter... it has its own channels on a differnt server06:22
dr_willis!backtrack06:22
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)06:22
giNeeRingno there is one here, maybe i should try different server06:22
dr_willisthir main channel ISon a differnt server06:22
dr_willischeck their homepage06:22
Guest31016hello, how could i change grub to lilo?06:24
dr_willisGuest31016:  given the limits of lilo. that is most likely not a good idea.06:24
dr_willisim not even sure its doable06:24
magn3tsAny reason why out of the blue FB and HN would stop resolving on my network... and then be fixed after disabling IPv6 on eth0?06:25
Theodorehello06:26
Theodorehow do i paste AACS files to ./config when ./config file permissions are grayed out06:26
Guest31016dr_willis , when installing ubuntu 12.04 using the erase and install option my computer gets freeze at boot couldnt even enter the bios06:26
dr_willisTheodore:  set the owner and/or permissions of the file to be owned by your current user, would be one way06:27
dr_willisTheodore:  or edit the file as the root user.06:27
dr_willisGuest31016:  i dont see how the OS can keep the pc from entering the bios. Unless you got some weird hardware06:28
Guest31016dr_willis , when installing ubuntu 12.04 using the erase and install option my computer gets freeze at boot couldnt even enter the bios. i had the same problem with 11.04 but solved it using the everything else install option (strange??) unfortunately im not being able to install 12.04 that way06:29
dr_willisid partion it by hand using gparted how you wanted then use  the 'somthing else' option to set the proper mount points06:29
dr_willisyou may wan tto try 12.10 also06:30
Guest31016 unfortunately im not being able to install 12.04 that way06:30
Theodoredr_willis, wouldn't it be easier to just move them to that ./config dir in terminal?06:30
dr_willisand what does it do when you try..06:30
r4yI want to know your thoughts about http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/06:30
dr_willisTheodore:  i not sure whata you mean. but ifyou want your user to be able to edit files.. then the permissions need to be set to allow it.06:31
Stephinisince when can linux be installed INSIDE of windows?06:31
Guest31016dr_willis , it crashes at system locales (something like that)06:31
dr_willisStephini:  for ages... last 4+ releases at least06:31
dr_willisGuest31016:  id cerify the cd/download and make sure it was a good burn. perhaps use a usb/flash drive instead.06:32
dr_willisverify06:32
Stephinimy last linux was fedora moonshine...so i'm a bit out of the loop...but that is bloody awesome! especially since it turns out i have 4 primary partitions so cant make a new one...06:32
dr_willis!md506:32
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:32
Guest31016dr_willis , it crashes at system locales (something like that) to be honest i could do it once (this computer is old and unstable)06:32
dr_willisStephini:  thats a wubi install.. and tends to be problematic.. i would suggest not using wubi06:32
Stephinigahh...then what should i do?06:33
Guest31016dr_willis , i forget to mention that im doing this on an usb pen drive06:33
dr_willisStephini:  you can do a full install to an external usb if you wanted..06:34
Stephinimy laptop doesn't have the usb power for an HDD nore do i have one spare.06:34
dr_willisor redo your partitions06:34
madpropswhat's the name of the notification area that includes the battery, volume icons etc?06:34
umanassuming a bug was fixed in Debian on November 17th, 2012, when can I expect to see it fixed in Ubuntu?06:34
umanA bug in a package, that is06:34
dr_willisuman:  depends on the bug and how critical it was06:35
umandr_willis: very non-critical06:35
umandr_willis: just some pkg-config files were missing from a package06:35
dr_willisthen it may never get  updated untill the next relesase06:35
umandr_willis: that was the thrust of my question06:35
umandr_willis: which Ubuntu release will include it06:35
uman13.04 ?06:35
dr_willisperhaps the NEXT release. ;)06:35
Guest31016dr_willis , what could be different between "erase and install" and everything else options that could make this happen?06:35
umandr_willis: ok :)06:36
dr_willissilly irc client crashed. ;()06:37
BroUnicornI'm really worried now.06:37
dr_willishorray for znc06:37
BroUnicornI can't delete the windows partition.06:37
BroUnicornIt won't let me restore my Mac OSx partition to one single partition06:37
Stephininot sure how i would do that...acer has a partition that i'm not sure is wise to remove...(hate mesing with partiotions...) windows 8 has two...then all the files i want to go through still is on the other...06:38
dr_willisStephini:  if the HD is  GPT partioned - you can have more then 4 primary partitions06:39
umanhow can I use apt-get (or aptitude, or a related tool) to show the contents of an installed package?06:39
dr_willisi dont think GPT partioned is the right word... ;P06:39
StephiniGPT partiotioned? not sure what that is...but gparted said i cant have more than the 4...06:39
BroUnicornI'm not sure what I can do if I can't even delete the bootcamp partition06:39
dr_willisguess its not a Gpt disk then.06:39
BroUnicorntrying to install ubuntu really screwed my partition table06:39
dr_willisuman:  one of the apt  cli tools can do it.. but i dont recall the one or the syntax.06:40
dr_willis!apt06:40
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)06:40
BroUnicornCan anyone help me to simply restore my Mac to one partition, since my partition table messed up?06:41
wesyk2n1guys I'm coming to the chat here to see if anyone has seen this issue before and perhaps has a solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210488806:41
dr_willisBroUnicorn:  the osx channel might know the best way.  i sure dont06:41
BroUnicornIs that on freenode?06:41
dr_willis!alis06:41
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:42
BroUnicornI'm being told I need to identify with network services06:43
dr_willis!register06:43
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode06:43
dr_willisregiester your nick and identify with the nickserv06:43
dr_willis  #ubuntu  is one of the few channsels that dosent require this06:43
Gemclipi just installed a webserver on ubuntu server lte. how do I serup ftp access to the server please06:44
BroUnicornHow do I identify with the nickserv?06:44
dr_willisBroUnicorn:  i think the bot gave a url to the howto guide06:44
Guest31016is it possible to edit the mbr?06:44
BroUnicornOh I see it06:44
dr_willisGuest31016:  i imagineits possible.. but may not be a good idea06:45
Gemclipweb servers running fine just cant access it via ftp06:45
dr_willisGemclip:  install a ftp server perhaps? or  better idea.. use ssh/scp/sftp06:45
dr_willis!ssh06:46
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)06:46
ehc__how do people combine and minify css/js in wordpress? w3_total_cache in't working for me06:46
BroUnicornlol there are two people in the osx irc06:47
Gemclipim really new to linux. sftp Id like to use. I have putty already06:47
dr_willisinstall the ssh server. use winscp  transfer stuff  back and forth06:47
Gemclipis sftp enabled by default?06:47
dr_willisonly if you install the ssh service06:48
Gemclipi installed the ssh server06:48
sijeis there any ip mesenger for ubuntu like iptux06:50
Inous -bash: ./steam.sh: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:51
InousWhats this mean? It should have a directory I just installed a file to this directory06:51
InousHow can I fix this?06:51
dr_willisInous:   how did you make tghe steam.sh file?06:51
Inousmkdir /home/USERNAME/go06:52
Inousmkdir /home/USERNAME/go/steamcmd06:52
Inousthen06:52
Inouscd ./go/steamcmd06:52
Inouswget http://blog.counter-strike.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/steamcmd.tar.gz06:52
Inoustar xvfz steamcmd.tar.gz06:52
Inous./steam.sh06:52
Inousthats when i get the error06:53
dr_willischeck the steam.sh file.  see what the first line is.. and double check that it dosewnt have dos type line endings06:53
Inousand yes, i put my username in the directory06:53
dr_willissoule be like    #!/bin/bash06:53
Inoushow do i do that06:53
dr_williswith a text editor06:54
dr_willis I just got a job call... may be back in an hr.. not sure.. bbl06:54
Inoushmmm im working from an ssh06:54
Inousthanks06:54
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yrc06:59
linwish_nice07:00
fqj1994Hello, I have a question on mirror:// protocol. After apt download the mirror list from http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt, how does it choose the best one ? ping latency, http download test, geolocation or random ? thanks.07:04
giNeeRinghttp://pastebin.com/08dZDkqt  -- not sure how to fix07:05
r4yI just wanted to come here and say I am sorry about being upset the other day on this channel. My apologizes to anyone that was here then when I was expressing how I don't like the new Ubuntu because of things missing I wanted but I was being an idiot. There are things that can be installed07:09
r4yI haven't tried07:09
r4yI tried Ubuntu but failed in knowing how to make it my own. I am using Ubuntu 10.04 right now07:10
r4yI meant I tried Ubunt 12 and failed at making it mt own07:10
r4yI have some bookmarks for some directions to go07:10
linwish_dont be shy, just try07:12
r4yAlso I have been upset because my computer's motherboard or bios is messed up and I am currently using our other computer which is an emachines computer. Yes I know, ha ha07:12
linwish_good, practice makes perfect07:13
Stephinithose still exist?07:13
r4yWe, I guess I will be using a virtual program of some type. What should I use for anything other then Ubuntu that is Linux?, I will also be testing Ubuntu as well, as I found this, wait a sec07:14
r4yhttp://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/07:14
r4yThere is also this http://askubuntu.com/questions/61567/how-do-i-change-to-a-theme-not-listed-in-the-appearance-screen07:15
r4yAnyways, that's all I have to say. Any other suggestions?07:15
joe9i installed a dual boot windows and ubuntu. grub always boots into windows. I cannot figure out why, /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFALT=saved, GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true, and then ran update-grub.07:16
joe9/boot/grub/grubenv shows the saved_entry as "Ubuntu"07:16
joe9http://codepad.org/BClAijHA07:16
joe9http://codepad.org/8KY1QtDA07:17
joe9results of : grep -ir menuentr grub.cfg07:17
DaemonicApathyr4y: Depending on how much reading you want to do, you can get some pretty decent results from a standard Ubuntu install: http://i.imgur.com/eDX26.png ; http://i.imgur.com/CR4er.jpg07:18
joe9do I have to do a grub install or something like that after the above?07:18
CCKAhey all, question I got a question. After trying to uptade the system the update process failed and /boot is full07:20
CCKAit filled up with newer kernels and now if I reboot the machine it will not start (so I did not reboot)07:20
CCKAgrub was trying to update from 1 to v207:21
CCKAany heal would be great07:21
CCKAhelp07:21
subdesignis it true if I uncheck moduls in tasksel, it'll uninstall them?07:21
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r4yI thought I might as well: http://imagebin.org/24307207:22
BroUnicorn:(07:23
BroUnicornubuntu ruined my partitions07:23
r4yAnyways, I should go07:23
r4yTY and sorry again to anyone here before07:24
r4ywhen I was here I mean07:24
r4ybye :) /07:24
darksis[BNC]Hello i need please help i try to create in database and this no work i write07:31
darksis[BNC]psql -h cservice.mIRCxNet.org database gnuworld07:31
darksis[BNC]and i see07:32
darksis[BNC]psql: could not translate host name "cservice.mIRCxNet.org" to address: Name or service not known07:32
darksis[BNC]what i need to do for this?07:32
Dionsyushello07:32
dr_willisdouble check tge address is correct?07:33
darksis[BNC]address like my ip?07:33
nabblethi, i can use alsamixer, mplayer only as root - why i tried to fix it, i learned that i SHOULD NOT add my user to the audio group - what's the correct fix07:33
dr_willisthe cservice......... sddress07:34
chrismideni need to get m highpoint rocket raid 2720 controller working with ubuntu, some advices?07:34
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histochrismiden: have you tried it yet?07:35
Dionsyushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RocketRaid07:36
chrismideni tried it07:37
chrismideni get always a dkms kernel error07:37
chrismideni followed those rocket raid stuff but it is for the 26xx not 27xx07:37
chrismidenand i don't like to fiddle on the source code like in 26x needed07:38
darksis[BNC]no07:38
darksis[BNC]10.0.0.1 this address07:38
Kajoverhi. i am trying to install ubuntu on the macbook air 3,2 and get constant graphic glitches. how do i install ubuntu 12.10 with nomodeset? when pressing e to change the command.. where do i insert nomodeset?07:40
Sailok so i did ubuntu minimal install i select manaul package in select nd install sofware thn it opens aptitude but i didnt choose any package for install now i want to install unity all features without extra packages like thunderbird music player games etc?07:41
ldz420I am using ubuntu 12.04 and wanted to know if there was an easy way (hopefully without having to install anything) to temporarily switch to unity 2d07:42
Aravind_geekIdz420:logout and select unity2d on windowmanger07:43
Aravind_geekIdz420:logout and select unity2d on loginmanager.07:43
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nabbletIdz420 logout and choose unit2d on login - if that is not working https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity2D07:44
nabbletSail: you want to install unity or you don't want to install unity?07:45
nabbletSail: try this ' sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop ' source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/109430/commands-for-installing-unity-on-ubuntu-minimal-desktop07:46
enavhello, im havong the following bugs on 12.10, nautilus does some random resize of the columns every time i click on the window, startup disk creator crashes all the time, for some reason when i call the dash or HUD it hides behind the windows and i cant see what im doing same happens to fash video on full screen, when i open more than 6 windows i experience video degradation, if i got any window with negative color when i call the window scale ctrl + w the windo07:47
nabbletSail: if you want a minimal desktop environment, you might consider something slicker too - how about Xfce?07:47
dr_willisor Lubuntu07:48
nabbletSail: also Lxde might be of interest for you07:48
dr_willisbbl07:48
nabbletbbl?07:48
enavxubuntu is officially maintained by canonical afaik07:48
nabbletenav: think so too - although i always run into bugs with it :(07:49
khaoshi i can't boot ubuntu 12.10 (64bit) live dvd in laptop with installed windows 807:50
enavdo you ahve the same problems as me? im just wanted to know got to roll back to LTS because i simply cant work with this release07:50
Kajovergot it07:50
nabbletkhaos: does the cd start at all?07:50
nabbletenav: are you talking to me?07:51
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enavno me, i described a list of bugs im experimentign, wanted to know if im the only one with all those bugs07:51
androidtry 32bit07:53
khaosnabllet: yes it shows the menu for trying ubuntu (If i set UEFI CD boot first) but after entering try ubuntu it gets black screen07:53
r4yhttp://imagebin.org/24307407:54
khaosI want to dualboot win8 + ubuntu 12.10 in this laptop (asus) 8 gig ram so I need x64 version. The laptop has uefi enabled07:54
nabbletkhaos: disable uefi?07:55
androidi dualboot my acer atom 1ghz, 1gb ram windows 7 + ubuntu 12.1007:55
androidwork great07:55
nabbletkhaos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:56
khaosnabblet, In my bios I have the option for 1st boot: HARD DISK UEFI, CD UEFI AND NONE07:56
BroUnicornTo anyone following my issues today... I deleted the partition. :|07:56
khaosnabblet, If I set it to None so I can boot?07:56
nabbletkhaos: if the other systems (Windows Vista/7/8, GNU/Linux...) of your computer are installed in EFI mode, then you must install Ubuntu in EFI mode too.07:56
helmut_hi07:57
histoBroUnicorn: I can look back but what problem are you having now?07:57
khaosnabblet, i have read this article and tried to follow , but ubuntu splash screen in live mode doestn appears, Only black screen. I disabled Quick boot, but the results are the same :(07:57
histo!uefi | khaos07:57
ubottukhaos: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:57
khaoshisto, i know that. I just can't boot on my live dvd in order to install ubuntu side by side with win807:58
nabbletkhaos: sorry, i can not help you further - i did it only once and it worked following the link i sent you07:58
histokhaos: Have you read steps 1 & 207:59
khaosnabblet thanks, one question only. I can't find how to disable the UEFI CD boot from bios07:59
androidhave you try boot from usb08:00
histokhaos: make sure you are using 64bit and ubuntu 12.1008:00
androidubuntu 12.10 usb08:00
khaoshisto in step #2 I get black screen after the Try Ubuntu option08:00
androidflash drive08:00
BroUnicornhisto: None other than the empty hole in my heart from the information I lost. ;(08:00
histoBroUnicorn: did you already write to the drive or are you trying to recover the data?08:00
khaosOk but in my Bios I have only two options: Boot UEFI CD AND Boot UEFI HD (Windows) and NONE08:01
khaosIF I put Windows it will boot windows08:01
khaosIf I put UEFI CD it boots ubuntu and after blackscreen. That's why I need help08:01
histokhaos: which ubuntu cd are you using?08:02
BroUnicornhisto: I already completely erased the partition....08:03
androidtry burn the iso to cd r dvd again08:03
histoBroUnicorn: so the data is still there08:03
androidsometime burning error08:03
BroUnicornhisto: Haha no...08:03
BroUnicornhisto: How could it be? I erased the partition using disk utility.08:03
histoBroUnicorn: Okay well I work in computer forensics and data recovery but believe what you want.08:04
histoBroUnicorn: because deleting a partition does not delete any data.08:04
nabbletBroUnicorn histo is right08:04
histoBroUnicorn: it just erases a few bits on the master partitioin table of the disk08:04
histoBroUnicorn: bytes I should say not bits08:04
histoBroUnicorn: Even formatting doesn't erase the data. Unless you do a low level format. Or overwrite all he data with 0's08:05
histoBroUnicorn: So again I ask you what type of file system was it?08:05
BroUnicornhisto: Okay.. That's awesome. I'm a CS student so I understand what you're saying. How can I recover some? All of this originated from have partition table errors from trying to install ubuntu.08:05
histoBroUnicorn: Well did you finally install ubuntu or did you just stop eventually?08:06
BroUnicornhisto: NFTS I believe. It was a Windows 7 bootcamp.08:06
androidyou can say 8bits or byte the same08:06
BroUnicornI just installed ubuntu...08:06
histoandroid: I know but there are several bytes int he master partition table that are changed.08:07
BroUnicornAfter deleting the non-working partition.08:07
histoBroUnicorn: on the drive you want to recover files off of?08:07
BroUnicornYeah it's on the drive. I had given up on recovering files.08:07
histoBroUnicorn: do you have a removable drive laying around?08:07
BroUnicornDamn if you had been here just slightly earlier.08:07
histoBroUnicorn: there is still time.08:07
histoBroUnicorn: you'd be suprised what is still on yoru disk.08:08
BroUnicornI have DVDs sadly08:08
histoBroUnicorn: do you have more than one drive in the machine?08:08
BroUnicornNo. It's a MacBook pro.08:08
BroUnicornNow dual-booted with Osx lion and ubuntu08:09
histoBroUnicorn: What type of files are you most concerned about?08:09
BroUnicornI do have a backup version of my windows but its pretty old.08:09
TimeRider_UKBroUnicorn : did you read the link I posted yesterday, cos that mentions about corruption and how to avoid08:09
BroUnicornThere are actually only a few files I want. Im into making music using this program called fl studio.08:09
nabbletBroUnicorn: not sure if histo mentioned it but i think first thing is to make sure that noting gets written to the hdd now08:10
histoBroUnicorn: so like wavs and mp3's etc..08:10
histonabblet: yeah08:10
BroUnicornI had a few new tracks id love to save if at all possible.08:10
histoBroUnicorn: well I'd boot to the install cd immediately.  Then sudo apt-get install testdisk   that will give you accesss to a wonderfull program called photorec.08:10
BroUnicornhisto: Actually its a specific filetype for the program. Its a .flp08:10
BroUnicornI have the install cd.08:11
histoBroUnicorn: you can use photorec to search your hdd int he unallocated space for files of a specific type.  I'll look if it has support for flp if not you can make your own header filter with a program like scapel and carve those files.08:11
androidFL = Fruity Loops08:11
TimeRider_UKBroUnicorn http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/13706/recover-deleted-files-on-an-ntfs-hard-drive-from-a-ubuntu-live-cd/08:11
BroUnicornI have testdisk on my osx.08:12
histoBroUnicorn: you need to boot the live cd so you stop using the drive.08:12
histoBroUnicorn: otherwise you are limiting the chance that you will recover the flp files.08:13
BroUnicornOkay. Im using irc from my phone.08:13
histoBroUnicorn: but photorec does recover flp files08:13
kunjiBroUnicorn: I came into this conversation a bit late.  So, you wiped the partition table and installed an OS?  So there is a chance your files were overwritten and gone for good.  Or did you only lose the partition table?  Because there's a way you can try to recover that.08:13
histoBroUnicorn: okay boot the ubuntu cd on that box now08:13
histokunji: no he installed08:13
androidAndroIRC08:13
histoBroUnicorn: just ignore them due to the way windows is structured you may have not overwritten any data. There are swap files etc... that take up a large first portion of the disk.08:14
BroUnicornDude where the hell were you guys earlier hahaha. Earlier no one had a clue what I was talking about so I gave up lol.08:14
histoBroUnicorn: atleast any user data in windows 708:14
BroUnicornBooting from cd now08:14
histoBroUnicorn: well not often that a data recovery person is around.08:14
histoBroUnicorn: I happen to be an expert in computer forensics.08:14
BroUnicornhisto: You're incredible. I think I love you.08:14
nabbletBroUnicorn: to be honest - the big flaw of irc is that this conversation is not documented as well - imagine tomorrow an other dude will come with a similar problem :P08:15
dr_willisnabblet:  the channel is logged08:15
BroUnicornDo I need to get testdisk on my ubuntu boot disk?08:15
histonabblet: I'm pretty sure this channel is logged but most people don't search it.08:15
histodr_willis: hey what's up long time no see08:15
dr_willishisto:  back on 3rd shift now. ;)08:16
nabbletdr_willis: histo that's the point - it will not be searched08:16
BroUnicornhisto: Man I appreciate this a lot. And yeah I definitely see that happening.08:16
histodr_willis: yessir08:16
kunjihisto: T.T, well, this situation is ugly.  Also aren't those swaps < 500 megs, I wouldn't call  it a large portion, that said, an Ubuntu install is < 5 gigs, so there's a good chance of recovering stuff.  Hmm, expert in computer forensics, if I have any trouble I'm PMing you :P08:16
dr_willisi just got back on 3rds.. and now they are discussing chanvgeing the shift hours here again next month. ;()08:16
histokunji: most likely he will get lucky recovering just user files. You are forgetting the windows 7 data also at the front of the drive.08:17
nabbletat chance - does anyone know the avaerage respones time in the ubunut forum?08:18
histodr_willis: yeah i'm on 12hr shifts.08:18
BroUnicornhisto: Okay, ubuntu is nearly booted. When it is I need to download testdisk first, correct?08:18
histonabblet: it's pretty quick while you wait I would search askubuntu.com08:18
kunjihisto: Hmm, that's true, I forget because my partitions tend to be less standard than the typical install.08:18
histoBroUnicorn: yeah photorec is included in the testdisk package. so once it's booted select try ubuntu.  Then get internet connected. open a terminal and sudo apt-get install testdisk08:18
histokunji: I learned this because you wouldn't believe the attempts people fail at trying to delete child pornogrpahy08:19
nabblethisto: where does the packages get installed to?08:19
histonabblet: which packages?08:19
histonabblet: when you are booting off the live cd?08:19
nabblethisto: of you apt-get on a livecd08:19
histonabblet: ram drive08:20
kunjihisto: lol, oh man, I guess no one told them about degaussing :P08:20
histokunji: you don't catch the smart ones08:20
BroUnicornhisto: Okay. Connecting to internet and trying to find terminal. I dont know if terminal is on here as I cant find it.08:20
BroUnicornhisto: And also, thats messed up haha08:21
histoBroUnicorn: press the apple key should bring up the dash then start typing terminal08:21
* dr_willis recalls telling someone this earlier today..08:21
dr_willis;)08:21
nabblethisto: but it has limited space - what will happen if you go for something with plenty dependencies?08:21
dr_willisor alt-ctrl-t08:21
histodr_willis: he's on a mac08:21
kunjinabblet: I agree about IRC not being easily searchable, I've searched it, but you find so many things that aren't relevant or were never resolved, it gets old pretty fast.  It's too bad we don't have the time to curate the logs for the useful bits.08:21
dr_willishes on a ubuntu live cd i thought,08:21
histodr_willis: probably like apple-ctrl-t if they have a control key08:22
umanhisto: heh, do you work for the Long Arm of the Law ?08:22
histodr_willis: no the mac keyboard is different08:22
histouman: yes08:22
* dr_willis sticks a mr uck over the appls08:22
BroUnicornhisto: Got terminal up!08:22
dr_willisheh. I used a logitech keybosard on the mac i had years  ago08:22
androidhttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk08:22
histoBroUnicorn: sudo apt-get install testdisk08:22
nabbletkunji: i would really like to see something like in aksubuntu... where you can "upvote" helpful answers08:23
BroUnicornUnable to locate paxkage testdisk08:23
histoBroUnicorn: you may have to enable the universe repo first08:23
histoBroUnicorn: yeap08:23
BroUnicornpackage*08:23
BroUnicornhisto: Okay, how is that done?08:23
nabbletkunji: of course it has flaws (usually the answer comes in parts and not as one message)...08:23
histoBroUnicorn: click on the softwware store > then mouse up to the top bar there are options up there for sources08:24
histoBroUnicorn: actually we could do it in terminal08:24
histoBroUnicorn: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:25
kunjinabblet: yeah, I was trying to envision how that might work, it would probably be more work that it's worth, we should probably just try to remember to put useful things we see in here on the wiki.08:25
BroUnicornhisto: Okay! Terminal'd it- bunch of stuff popped up08:25
histoBroUnicorn: then find the line that has deb http://us.ubuntul..... precise main   just put a universe on the end of that line and ctrl+x to exit it will ask you to save08:25
histoBroUnicorn: not the lines that start #  those are comments the ones that start with deb08:26
nabbletkunji: if that would work, it would be already so :P08:26
florian_hello, my usb hub is failing once in a while. how can I find out if it's the hub, or the usb ports, or a software issue?08:26
histoBroUnicorn: let me know when you are done with that.08:26
nabbletkunji: i am sure, few are even doing this...08:26
cloudgeekI want to convert my resume to pdf to odt ?08:26
histoflorian_: check dmesg08:26
histocloudgeek: you mean from pdf to odt?08:27
cloudgeekany tool for convert from pdf to odt08:27
cloudgeekhisto: yes08:27
florian_histo, is this a command to run in the terminal?08:27
histoflorian_: yes08:27
_sachinu cant fully convert08:27
florian_histo, ta, I'm trying08:27
histoflorian_: it will show you a log of what is happening behind the scenes so to say08:27
BroUnicornhisto: The only lines I have all start with deb, one starts with cdrom, the others are http://archive;http://security;http://archive08:27
nytrixwhat can really erase or scramble you HD so testdisk wont recover?08:28
histoBroUnicorn: okay on the one thats not the cd that has main add the word universe on the end of the line08:28
umannytrix: DBAN08:28
umannytrix: or throw your drive in a river08:28
histoBroUnicorn: and hit ctrl+x to exit it will ask you to save the file08:28
_sachindd can really screw ur HD08:28
florian_histo, hm ... "bash: check: command not found" can I install this application via synaptic?08:28
histoflorian_: dmesg  should be on your system08:29
florian_histo, yeah! what lines should I have a look at?08:29
histoflorian_: anything related to usb  you could do something like dmesg | grep usb08:29
dr_willisflorian_:  the command is ''dmesg" as in  check the output of the dmesg command....08:29
BroUnicornThat has main? All three say main restricted. One says quantal, one says quantal-security, one says quantal-updates08:29
histoBroUnicorn: the quantal main one  put universe at the end08:30
histoBroUnicorn: if you can pastebint he file you are looking at I can tell you the line number08:30
nabbletnytrix: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15037/use-an-ubuntu-live-cd-to-securely-wipe-your-pcs-hard-drive/08:30
histo!paste | BroUnicorn08:30
ubottuBroUnicorn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:30
florian_dr_willis, thanks08:31
histoflorian_: I would start with something like dmesg | grep -i usb08:31
BroUnicornhisto: Added universe and ctrl+x saved08:32
histoBroUnicorn: okay sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install testdisk08:32
BroUnicornWait posting a picture still looking at something08:33
florian_histo, thank you, the  only error messages I got are "cannot enable port 1" "cannot enable port 2". What does that mean?08:35
nabbletBroUnicorn: just out of interest - are you using IRC from the LiveCD or other device?08:35
histonabblet: irc from his phone08:35
florian_by the way the hub is working right now.08:36
histonabblet: you can use irc from the live cd though08:36
histoflorian_: means it can't enable port 1 and 2 I assume.08:36
histoflorian_: try dmesg | grep -i -b2 usb08:36
BroUnicornhisto: Okay picture not working: it's saying "File Name to Write: /etc/apt/sources.list" then options. This is after ctrl + x08:36
nabblethisto: yeah - might be more convenient - epecially for pasting stuff08:36
BroUnicornnabblet: Colloquy on iPhone :D08:36
histoBroUnicorn: yeah press enter08:36
BroUnicornhisto: Okay.08:37
histoBroUnicorn: did it exit?08:37
florian_histo,  yeah, that's what I thought  ;-) but what exactly is failing? trying your command suggestion08:37
BroUnicornhisto: Yeah. Doing update08:37
histoflorian_: that new command will print a few lines before whatever line mentions usb08:37
florian_histo, yeah, I got that08:38
florian_got them, I mean08:38
BroUnicornhisto: Out of curiosity how will I save the files? All I have are DVD-R's08:38
florian_they're green numbers08:38
BroUnicornhisto: Unless I can somehow move them to my other partitions08:39
_sachininsert to an external USB storage or another partition08:39
histoBroUnicorn: we will save the flp files to the ram drive.  and you could burn them or write them back to the drive but I would advise against that.08:39
dr_willisDropbox or ubuntu one08:39
BroUnicornhisto: Installing testdisk08:39
histoBroUnicorn: k08:39
histoBroUnicorn: flp files aren't that large right?08:39
BroUnicornhisto: No they aren't. They store settings for different plugins.08:40
BroUnicornhisto: Done installing testdisk!08:40
florian_histo, no, there are more lines! what should I be looking for?08:41
histoBroUnicorn: okay can you go to paste.ubuntu.com and copy and paste the output of sudo fdisk -l08:41
histoflorian_: do you remember what time those errors were at?08:41
florian_histo, a few minutes ago08:42
histoflorian_: or if you can pastebin the output of dmesg I'll take a look in a minute see if I can make heads or tails of it.08:42
florian_histo, yeah, just a minute, I'll pastebin the whole stuff08:42
gumptionhello all! can anyone tell me how to add an app to my startup in ubuntu 12.10?08:43
cloudgeekis there any pdf to odt converter ?08:43
BroUnicornhisto: sure. Can we take it to messages?08:43
BroUnicornhisto: Or is this info not revealing08:43
cloudgeekif there is pdf to .doc converter why not .odt converter08:43
cloudgeek?????08:43
histoBroUnicorn: no it's not revealing just post it to paste.ubuntu.com08:43
NvidiaProblems hello, I have a lenovo thinkpad e530 (Nvidia's GT 630M graphic card) and I'm using lubuntu 12.04. After the last kernel update my monitor resolution is nomore correct. On the main monitor I can't swith to a resolution higer than 640x480 but on the external monitor I can configure the right resolution (1680x1050). I'm using arandr to configure the resolution. I tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers but jockey didn't show me any08:43
NvidiaProblemsI tried to install the drivers from the nvidia site but it isn't fixing anything. May you please help me?08:43
BroUnicornhisto: paste.ubuntu.com/153700608:43
histoNvidiaProblems: uninstall the ones from nvidia.com and sudo apt-get install nvidia-current08:44
kunji1cloudgeek: There's a plugin that will let you do somethings.  But if you can convert it to .doc, then why not just convert the .doc to .odt?08:44
histookay photorec /dev/sda08:44
_sachin@Nvidia** : kill and restart jockey08:44
histoBroUnicorn: photorec /dev/sda08:44
histoBroUnicorn: let me install photorec so I can remember the options08:45
cloudgeekkunji1: what is that plugin ?08:45
_sachinphotorec comes in testdisk08:45
histo_sachin: I know we're beyond that08:45
BroUnicornhisto: Okay. Did it. Im in the menu directly after that08:45
NvidiaProblemshisto: doing that thanks. _sachin just did it and it is not working08:45
histoBroUnicorn: okay sudo photorec /dev/sda08:46
histoBroUnicorn: press enter to proceed at the first screen08:46
BroUnicornEven though I already did photorec /dev/sda?08:46
histoBroUnicorn: no ignore that.08:46
BroUnicornOkay. Pressing enter08:47
histoBroUnicorn: just press enter to proceed to the next screen08:47
BroUnicornOn the "select a media" screen08:47
histoBroUnicorn: no go to File Opt08:47
histoBroUnicorn: pres s to unselect all  and scroll down and make sure that flp is selected as a filetype since those are the only files we are concerned with08:48
BroUnicornOkay does it matter what partition is selected?08:48
NvidiaProblemsrebooting, thanks for the help, let's see if it works :)08:48
histoBroUnicorn: not while we are selecting file opt08:48
_sachin@Nvidia: try installing 'nouveau' drivers using synaptic08:49
florian_histo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1537014/ Thanks in advance. I'm not in a hurry, by the way.08:49
computerHow does one find out If Celeron 2.4 is i386 from terminal? Not the running version of Ubuntu but the CPU?08:49
nabblet!pastebin08:49
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:49
_sachinits an open source alternative to Nvidia08:49
BroUnicornOkay how do I select flp?08:49
histoflorian_: oKay will be a sec08:49
histoflorian_: oKay will be a sec08:49
florian_!pastbinit08:49
histoBroUnicorn: highlight it and press spacebar08:49
florian_!pastebinit08:49
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com08:49
BroUnicornhisto: Did it!08:50
histoBroUnicorn: it should be the only one X'd right?08:50
BroUnicornYes.08:50
histoBroUnicorn: select No partition the whole disk line08:51
NvidiaProblems_histo: thanks for the help but it didn't works. I uninstalled the nvidia.com drivers and installed nvidia-current using apt-get but the main monitor is still avaiable just in the 640x480 resolution08:51
BroUnicornhisto: Where is that? Im still on the list08:51
histoNvidiaProblems_: did you reboot08:51
NvidiaProblems_yes08:51
histoBroUnicorn: oh press enter to get back to the partitions list08:52
_sachin@Nvidia: try installing 'nouveau' drivers using synaptic08:52
BroUnicornOkay I'm on the whole disk line08:52
BroUnicornChoose search?08:52
NvidiaProblems__sachin: I'm trying to avoid the nouveau drivers because they sucks a lot of resources in my experience, but I'll try that if I will not able to install the proprietary drivers08:53
histoBroUnicorn: yeap08:53
BroUnicorn"To recover lost files, Photorec need to know the file system type"08:53
BroUnicorn"...where the files were stored"08:54
histoBroUnicorn: choose Other08:54
computerTried a few commands and looked on the net but how does one find out If Celeron 2.4 is i386 from terminal? Not the running version of Ubuntu but the CPU? Even Intel website does not say if i386, i586 or i686?08:54
BroUnicornOkay! Now what?08:54
histoBroUnicorn: becuase it was ntfs partition08:54
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BroUnicornhisto: Ahh, I see.08:54
histoBroUnicorn: okay now you can select a directory to save them to. you can just hit C to save to your current directory that you ran photorec from08:54
BroUnicornhisto: "Please select a destination to save"08:55
nabbletcomputer: cat /proc/cpuinfo08:55
BroUnicornSo this will just save to the temporary boot live disc?08:55
computerThank u. Will try.08:55
nabbletcomputer: oh sorry - my command will not help you - was typing faster than i was thinking :P08:56
histoBroUnicorn: no it will save to a fake had drive made from RAM08:56
computerSorry but "cat /proc/cpuinfo" does not say if i386, i586 or i686?08:56
histoBroUnicorn: so right now if you open a file browser and you should see some recup_dir's08:56
icerootcomputer: lscpu08:57
histocomputer: clflush size and cache alignment08:57
computer64, 128?08:57
histoBroUnicorn: it wil place any recovered flp files in the recup_dir08:57
histocomputer: 64bit cpu08:57
BroUnicornHmm im not seeing recup_dir08:58
histocomputer: and lscpu will show you the architecture08:58
BroUnicornI chose desktop08:58
dufaquit08:58
computerThanks. It's i686 32bit.08:58
histoBroUnicorn: well when you open the file browser look int eh Desktop folder08:58
BroUnicornI just see examples and install ubuntu08:59
histoBroUnicorn: is photorec still running?08:59
BroUnicornBut in the home folder I see photorec.ses08:59
wpl_How do i set the encoding for nfs shares? The man page doesnt specify any options for the encoding. Non-ASCII-characters are displayed as '?' in Terminal and Nautilus in NFS shares...08:59
histoBroUnicorn: yeah it creates a .ses file so that if you hit stop in the photorec window you can resume where it left off.09:00
BroUnicornhisto: Yes09:00
histoBroUnicorn: It will probably only create teh recup_dir.1 folder once it finds some files.  If it doesn't find any it will also create one to put a report.xml in09:00
histoBroUnicorn: be patient it will take a whiel.09:00
histoBroUnicorn: It's going through your hard drive sector by sector looking for any flp files.09:01
BroUnicornhisto: Okay. That makes sense09:01
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BroUnicornIt'll be like an hour or so... So I have to go to sleep. I have Calc 3 in 4 hours. Haha09:01
histoBroUnicorn: when it finds the start of an flp file it will copy the data from the drive and dump it in the recup09:02
BroUnicornhisto: Can I add you to my buddy list?09:02
histoBroUnicorn: just remember you need to save those flp files from the recup directory to something before rebooting the livecd.  If you reboot you'll ahve to start over.09:02
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Stephini2does anyone know what OEM partitions are usually for?09:02
histoBroUnicorn: I don't think there are buddy lists on irc.09:03
histoStephini2: recovery09:03
BroUnicornOkay. Is there a way I can save this chat!09:03
BroUnicorn?* there's a buddy list with my client09:03
histoBroUnicorn: copy and paste or it's logged09:03
histoBroUnicorn: well then I don't care if you add me to that.09:03
Stephini2histo, so if you are on a totally different OS than the original it should be fine to format. no? (if gparted can even that is...09:03
BroUnicornAwesome. Man, I appreciate this incredibly.09:03
histoBroUnicorn: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/09:03
BroUnicornEven if nothing is recorded this is fantastic09:04
Stephini2most GUId clients have client side logging too... no?09:04
histoStephini2: they usually put an image of the factory installed partitino with all the software the machine came with on that partition. So you can press like F12 while booting to recover to factory specs.  If you no longer want that you can delte that partiton and free up the space.09:04
BroUnicornOkay, I looked at that log website09:04
BroUnicornHow would I find our conversation?09:05
Stephini2histo, i'm more worried about the fact that that partition is counting against my 4 partition limit preventing me from installing both win8 and ubuntu...heh09:05
histoBroUnicorn: BroUnicorn click on 2013 then the date the conversation took place09:05
histoBroUnicorn: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/01/16/%23ubuntu.txt09:06
Stephini2histo can you conferm that gparted can delete that partition by chance? or does it require special jiggering? i noticed windows couldn't touch it...09:06
histoStephini2: you can use extended partitoins09:07
histoStephini2: no any partitioning tool should be able to delete it.09:07
Stephini2i was thinking about that...but does windows play nice with extended partitions? most times win doesn 't seem very smart about advanced features...09:07
histoStephini2: it doesn't know the difference09:07
Stephini2ahh sweet thanx...09:08
histoStephini2: well I wouldn't install windows to an extended I should say09:08
Stephini2ohh...09:08
histoStephini2: You could try it though.09:08
histoStephini2: I haven't played with the windows 8 installer09:08
qcthink big09:08
histoflorian_: sorry forgot i'm looking now09:08
qchelloooooooooooooooooo all09:08
Stephini2if i could just get the "install inside windows 8" button to not crash my laptop that woulda sorted everything...heh09:08
florian_histo, no worries09:08
BroUnicornhisto: I am very appreciative of what you've helped me with here. So when it saves... How can I save it with a DVD-r?09:08
BroUnicornhisto: Or can I not?09:09
robaif I have physical disks, can I have / on one and /var and /opt on the other?09:09
roba*2 physical disks09:09
histoflorian_: is /dev/sdb plugged in via usb?09:09
BroUnicornhisto: Could I save it to a USB that already has a Ubuntu boot loader on it?09:09
dr_willisroba:  yes.  Or on partitions on the same disk09:10
histoBroUnicorn: yeah09:10
histoBroUnicorn: just plug the usb thumb drive in and tehre should be some free space still on there.09:10
histoflorian_: and /dev/sdc perhaps?09:10
robadr_willis, do I need to do it post-install? I want to avoid separate partitions because I dont know how they will grow as its a dev box09:10
Stephini2well thanx histo... sicne you advice against windows and extended parts i guess i'll just delete the OEM one.. thanx for all the help...*aways to work on her craptop*09:11
dr_willisSeperate partitions can make it easier at timez09:11
histoStephini2: I would try it whats the worst that can happen.09:11
BroUnicornhisto: I aspire to be at your level. This is a perfect example of why I chose computer science as a major.09:11
dr_willisYou could do it post install via a live cd09:11
histoBroUnicorn: keep in mind these aren't really advanced data recovery too9ls but they are free and they work.09:12
robadr_willis, just modify fstab or is there something I need to be aware of?09:12
Stephini2BroUnicorn, just make sure it's not a crappy comunity college or tech uni...i made that mistake..they thought java was the end all be all of programming and it was the only language you needed for any job period... >.<09:12
florian_histo, I don't know. How can I find out?09:12
histoflorian_: do you have external drives plugged in to the usb hub or thumb drives09:13
dr_willisIf you got the fstab e skills. Go for it.09:13
Kartagis!sen09:13
Kartagis!xen09:13
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen09:13
robadr_willis, alright thanks mate.. worst that could go wrong is that I just have to restore from backups I guess09:14
BroUnicornStephini2: That sucks. I feel for you. I go to a pretty good university. High ranked engineering school, Atleast for a state university09:14
BroUnicornStephini2: Definitely no Ivy League, but definitely no community college09:14
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florian_histo, it changes. When the hub is working, I have my mouse and the hub in the two usb ports, and I have my keyboard in the hub, and two flasdrives for backup as well09:15
BroUnicornhisto: Hell, ill take it. Appreciate it.09:15
florian_when the hub is failing, I plug the keyboard directly into the usb port.09:15
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BroUnicornGoodnight/morning all- be up in 3 hours09:15
Stephini2asta09:15
_sachin#Act 109:15
kunji1Stephini2: ouch... Java...09:15
histoflorian_: okay the two flash drives are /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc when the machine was upu. they were both getting I/O read errors when the hub went nuts09:16
florian_and the flash drives go into the ports as well, but I take the keyboard and the mouse out because otherwise the flash doesn't fit in. It's too thick(tall?? -- I'm not native with English)09:16
florian_histo, what are those kind of errors?09:17
histoflorian_: I would suspect the hub is bad. Try plugging some stuff into your machine instead of the hub. sudo dmesg -c   to clear the dmesg log.  then after a while check dmesg see if the flash drives have any buffer I/O errors09:17
histoflorian_: input output errors.09:17
florian_histo, I still have no idea what those kind of errors are and what they could come from. Someone else had suggested the ports might be "worn out", broken.09:18
florian_histo, I remember the flash drives themselves had similar problems as well when in the ports.09:19
florian_just failing without notice or warning09:19
histohisto: to translate... The errors start out hey can't communicate with your flash drive.  The furtehr on Hey can't communicate with your hub....09:19
nabbletif i want to install ubuntu on a SDD - do i need to use a specific filesystem or any other tool to make sure the SDD will not be unevenly stressed?09:20
histoflorian_: It's hardware so it's hard to say but I would suspect the hub is bad.  Or try a completely different usb bus on the mother board to plug the hub into09:20
nabbletsomething like trying to spread the reads/writes evenly over the whole SSD and reducing log writes09:21
histonabblet: yeah you can get rid of swap and do some other tuning09:21
aeon-ltdnabblet: trim? no swap? i'm not really an expert on ssds09:21
histonabblet: http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/09:22
wormI have just installed a new Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86_64 with btrfs for /. However when I boot, I see something like "ERROR: sparse file not allowed".  Nothing wrong will happen if I just press somekey to continue. Is there anyway for me to ignore this error?09:22
nabblethisto: yeah tuning - i was just wondering if there is a packages for that or an official guide line (didn't find one) - after all there are some discussions about tuning and wht would be best - with a lot of voodoo-knowledge09:22
florian_histo, ok, I do as you suggested, clean the log and wait and see. I already thought I might buy another hub and see if it's working better. I don't know if there's another usb bus I could plug the hub into, but I'll try that as well, using a docking station. I'll be back earliest in an hour, rather in two hours. THANK YOU!09:23
histonabblet: looks like a bunch of stuff on askubuntu or that page.09:23
histoflorian_: it looks liek you have several usb bus's on your mother board09:23
nabblethisto: jep - have already seen most of the links - thanks. jsut was wondering if there is a one-liner i might have missed09:24
histoflorian_: I see 3 in dmesg and the hub plugged into #109:24
histoflorian_: correction 4 and the hub plugged into #109:24
florian_histo, thanks. I know that the errors occured also on the other usb port. I'll try the docking station next.09:25
histoflorian_: just out of cureosity what is the video device plugged into usb?09:26
histoflorian_: a webcam or something?09:26
florian_histo, there's none09:27
florian_maybe the video card uses a usb bus?09:27
florian_wouldn't think so, though09:28
histosome video device does09:28
histoflorian_: oh nevermind09:29
histoflorian_: it's posting that becuase you did -b209:29
cloudgeekhow to auto complete words in open office like on bash we just do with pressing tab?09:29
florian_histo, allright, I'll be back in an hour with another paste from dmesg09:29
histocloudgeek: also found this09:30
histocloudgeek: http://document.online-convert.com/convert-to-odt09:30
histoflorian_: K I might be in bed09:30
* histo has to get some sleep09:30
cloudgeekhisto: :) hope09:31
histocloudgeek: ahh doesn't look like it does pdf09:31
cloudgeekI am preparing my CV as fresher student ,hope i got hired all credit to you man, i wanna to edit format from pdf to some other09:32
histocloudgeek: this is another one. mediaconverter.org09:33
cloudgeekhisto: i found a technique , i use a calibre , now i am editing my resume09:33
cubhow do i make it so when ubuntu starts, it does not start X unless i want it to09:33
dr_willis!text | cub09:33
ubottucub: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode09:33
dr_willistext option in /etc/default/grub  ;)09:33
histodr_willis: doesn't that still start gdb etc..09:34
cloudgeekhisto: If you know how auto-complete words in office while we type?09:34
histodr_willis: or whatever login manager we are using now adays09:34
dr_willistext mode does not start lightdm09:34
dr_willisthats like about the only thing it does... disables the login manager09:34
histocloudgeek: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_word_completion09:34
dr_willisand the framebuffer i think09:35
histoligthdm that's it09:35
cubty09:35
histodr_willis: ewww why do they have to hate on teh framebuffer. It's nice having that in a console only system.09:35
dr_willishisto i find it slows down my console greatly at times09:36
dr_willisand some times you get framebuffer trying unsupported modes on some monitors09:36
dr_willisthen theres the old issues the fb used to have with some drivers for X09:36
dr_willis;)09:36
xsobex787does anyone here know how to support joomla?09:37
cloudgeekhisto: it using enter instead of tab in bash09:37
histodr_willis: I just want a full featured framebuffer browser is all09:37
histodr_willis: some of them like chrome and webkit can be comiled with framebuffer but I haven't seen anyone with it working.09:38
histodr_willis: when They do I can say goodbye to X09:38
dr_willisframebuffer is a neat idea.. but just never really took off.09:38
histodr_willis: and all the text based browsers are dying.09:38
histodr_willis: like you can play video in framebuffer no problems09:40
Stephini2histo, are they? i figured there were still enough "hardcore" people out there to give a demand.09:40
dr_willissome videos...09:40
dr_willisused geexbox for ages.. they eventually switched from framebuffer to X due to limitations09:40
histodr_willis: vlc framebuffer09:41
Stephini2geexbox...isn't that something similar to XBMC?09:41
dr_willisits like a xmbcish live disrto.09:41
dr_willisi havent ised it in ages09:41
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dr_willisOpenelec is a similer idea09:42
Stephini2lolz i haven't touched my xbox classic in years...09:42
dr_willisthey have xbmc ported to android now09:42
Stephini2partly because i cant find my cables...a few times i've wanted it so i could stream movies to my 50" SDTV09:42
histoand xbmc for rasberrypi also they are puttingn it on everything.09:42
dr_willisI have several xbmc variant disrtos for my raspberry pi09:43
Stephini2everything except xbox 360... :P09:43
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histoI want to get a rpi but i've been too busy playing with arduino stuff.09:43
dr_willistheres that xbmcbuntu variant also09:43
dr_willisi got 2 pi's - on one right now via znc09:43
aeon-ltdhisto: but they have different range of uses...09:44
dr_willisshame theres no PiBuntu.09:44
aeon-ltddr_willis: isn't raspbian close enough?09:45
dr_willisyep. for me09:45
japplohi guys, is a  /boot btrfs partition possible?09:45
dr_willishmm. i think its possible.. but i would bet its not a good idea09:46
histodr_willis: why do you use znc why not jsut use screen?09:46
rmbelllogging, using other irc clients, etc09:46
dr_willisim using my android phone and andchat --> znc   to here09:46
Guest47059hi , pls how to create empty directory structure on fat32 usb?09:47
histodr_willis: yeah I just ssh to my server and resume my scrreen session usually09:47
histoGuest47059: like format it you mean?09:47
dr_willisi just jump on any pc/irc client and znc in.. and im here09:47
histodr_willis: so what is znc jstu an irc server that bounces out?09:48
rmbellirc bouncer, yeah09:48
dr_willis!info znc09:48
ubottuznc (source: znc): advanced modular IRC bouncer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.206-2 (quantal), package size 1246 kB, installed size 2967 kB09:48
dr_willisits handy09:49
histodr_willis: so any irc client can connect to it basically right?09:49
dr_willisexactly09:49
histoWe're basically doing the same thing i'm just using ssh09:49
dr_willisat the same time even09:49
Guest47059histo yes, only copy of my ubuntu dir structure, without files09:50
dr_willisi have 3 pcs going and a phone.. all are connected to the znc server.. i  can hop around09:50
histoGuest47059: what ubuntu dir structure on a fat32 drive?  I'm really confused now.09:50
histodr_willis: Yeah you could accomplish the same with ssh and screen09:50
dr_willisi can do more with ssh09:50
dr_willisand i dont have to find a ssh client for the phone thats useable.. :) still havent foiund a good one09:51
Guest47059ok on empty usb key, not fat32 usb09:51
dr_willisznc has other features however then i use09:51
histodr_willis: connect_bot is good. there's another one I can't think of that I use.09:51
Stephini2i'm going to go out on a limb and assume that ext4 is the best partition type for ubuntu?09:51
dr_willisconnectbot is not good.. i had major issues with it09:51
histo!best | Stephini209:52
ubottuStephini2: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.09:52
dr_willisthen theres the connectbot-rip-off clones09:52
histodr_willis: yeah there was one I found that worked awesome with screen like sideways swipe moved from each screen09:52
dr_willisbeen using ''server auditor' as a ssh client on the phone lately. it has issues.. but it works09:52
histodr_willis: can't remember the name of it now09:52
dr_willisi have issues with many ssh clients on android not working well with the keyboards on android09:53
Guest47059histo: ok on empty usb key, not on fat32 usb09:53
dr_williseither virtual or real keybords09:53
histodr_willis: I'm searching play store now09:53
Stephini2histo, ok then if best is the wrong term...is there any reason to choose it against say ntfs? (really hope this isn't a poll...doesn't seem to be to me...but i'm rather daft so who knows)09:53
histoGuest47059: what "ubuntu" directories do you mean?09:53
histoGuest47059: you aren't making any sense09:53
rmbellStephini2:  lots of reasons to pick a native linux FS over NTFS09:54
ponzeGuest47059: you mean you want / and all subdirs on the usb?!09:54
Guest47059histo: i dont have hdd, only usb and dvd09:54
dr_willisi can do shell commands via my irc client through znc.  so i dont ssh in much these days09:54
Stephini2things such as greater stability and speed?09:54
histodr_willis: irssi connect bot is nice09:54
rmbellStephini2:  yes09:54
histodr_willis: if you use irssi09:54
dr_willishisto:  i had to many issues with it. and i use weechat.09:55
histodr_willis: yeah /exec -o is nice09:55
dr_willisi can get a shell in a irc window with znc no need for  /exec09:55
histoGuest47059: What do you want on the usb drive? Just a blank drive that you can plop files on?09:55
histodr_willis: yeah with weechat09:56
dr_williswithout weechat. ;)  with any irc client - i can have a shell via znc09:56
histodr_willis: actually i'm in weechat now. didn't notice09:56
dr_willisa slightly limited shell.09:56
Guest47059yes where i can install new programs and after that i can update my dvd with it..09:56
dr_willisinstall programs onto a flash drive then do what with them?09:57
histoGuest47059: do you want to run ubuntu from a usb?09:57
histoGuest47059: ex: plug it in to your computer restart and boot to it and use Ubuntu off of that?09:57
* histo scratches head09:58
Stephini2ok a bit of research makes it seem like windows doesn't play well with ext3 and ext4. is that about right or am i reading old info?09:58
Guest47059yes, run sys from dvd, work with usb space, and someties move usb files to dvd/ update09:58
rmbellStephini2:  windows doesnt play well with most things09:58
dr_willisyou can boot  the dvd. then copy select files to the usb.. but not install apps to the usb09:58
histo!usb | Guest4705909:59
ubottuGuest47059: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent09:59
histoGuest47059: also what files are you trying to send me?09:59
Stephini2lolz quite true but for my needs i need to take into concideration windows.09:59
Guest47059i think with same dir structure i can09:59
histoGuest47059: you want persistent live usb09:59
histoGuest47059: directions it sounds like.09:59
rmbellStephini2:  you can access NTFS fine from linux, but you cant acess ext4 from windows09:59
dr_willisyou do a live install to the usb or a full install.. you can.. Im not sure you can boot a dvd and setup  a persistant file on a usb that will work with the dvd09:59
dr_willisand you dont just make   /SYSTEM type directories on the usb and expect the usb to automatically use them10:00
Guest47059dr_willis: k thx10:01
Stephini2rmbell any tips on a good alternative for someone who wants windows to have access to all partitions? like is ext2 too ancient to be concidered, ect. sorry for all this newbishness...last time i used linux was fedora moonshine and i had a third party vista app to access ext3...although it was buggy as heck.10:01
zalgorhello. I want to remove the "shutdown/reboot" item from the system menu (LTS 12.04, gnome). I don't want to disable or touch the lightdm poweroff/reboot options. Any hints or ideas?10:02
dr_williszalgor:  gnome shell or unity?10:02
zalgordr_willis, gnome shell10:02
histodr_willis: isnt' ther a weechat plugin/script that lists all the scripts availible online?10:03
dr_williszalgor:  check out the gnome shell extensions web site10:03
dr_willishisto:  'weeget'    i belive10:03
dr_willishisto:  ive cloned my weeget  settings dir to so many pcs i forget what all ive installed ;)10:04
dr_willishisto:  i did figure out how to make all mode changes go to a select channel buffer also - so i dont see all the bans and kicks in here.10:04
histodr_willis: yeah I think that's it10:04
histoyeap10:05
dr_willisweechat has some very nice features once you learn the basics of it10:05
rmbellStephini2:  serve the files over IP instead of accessing the partition directly, most likely easiest10:06
histodr_willis: Yeah I set it up ages ago and can't remember how I did my ignores and all that. I bounce betweent irssi and weechat just depends on what I type in if this box ever restarts.10:06
AtomskHello. Can anyone tell me how to use Ububtu 12.10 to chkdsk a hardrive with windows installed on it?10:06
histoStephini2: You could create samba shares and windows could browse them.10:07
Stephini2rmbell that wont help on dual boot will it?10:07
Stephini2same question to histo... :P10:07
AtomskP.S. running 12.10 from live CD10:07
rmbellno, but might as well just run ubuntu from a VM on windows then :)10:08
Stephini2decided "screw windows" anyway...heh...will the installer auto create the swap or do i hafta do that?10:08
rmbellguided partitioning creates a swap10:08
subdesigninstalling an app from software center and with apt installs the same verzion?10:09
histoAtomsk: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfsprogs   then use sudo fdisk -l to figure out which /dev/sdax is your NTFS drive. Then sudo ntfsfix /dev/devicename10:09
rmbellsubdesign:  yes10:09
subdesignthx10:09
Stephini2ahh kk...now i just gotta worry that windows, windows sys, ubuntu, and ubuntu swap will prolly eat my 4 partitions so i wont have the ability to create a storage partition...this is starting to be a PITA...10:09
dr_willisi dident think ntfsfix actually fixed anything.. it just flagged it as 'good'10:09
histoAtomsk: the ntfsfix program may be included ont he livecd by default.10:10
Atomskhisto: keeps saying package ntfsprogs has no insallation candidate10:10
rmbellStephini2: storage can be a logical partion, doesnt need to be primary10:10
rmbellyou can also use LVM10:10
dr_willisyou can instgall linux in logical partions in  an extended partition  Stephini210:10
Stephini2logical? hrm earlier the part manager wouldn't even let me create more than 4 period...10:10
histo!info ntfsprogs10:11
ubottuntfsprogs (source: ntfs-3g): read/write NTFS driver for FUSE (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2012.1.15AR.5-4ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 1 kB, installed size 45 kB10:11
histo!info ntfs-3g10:11
ubottuntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read/write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:2012.1.15AR.5-4ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 429 kB, installed size 1510 kB10:11
Stephini2well thanx i'mma go try to figure this crap out.10:11
vamadirhi, ubuntu have some vacancy forums?10:11
histoAtomsk: yeah so it's included on livecd10:11
dr_willis!forums | vamadir10:12
robacifs still used for ntfs?10:12
ubottuvamadir: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. Kubuntu Forums are found at http://www.kubuntuforums.net. There is also a channel on freenode IRC #ubuntuforums10:12
histoAtomsk: sudo fdisk -l   and findout which devices is NTFS10:12
dr_willisvamadir:  also check out askubuntu.com10:12
vamadir!vacancy10:12
histoAtomsk: then sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdx# <--- change accordingly10:12
vamadir!job10:12
histo!botabuse > vamadir10:12
ubottuvamadir, please see my private message10:12
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histoAlright goodnight10:13
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jilhello10:14
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jilExcepte from a bad memory, any idea why I would get different md5sum on the same ubuntu.iso ?10:14
Stephini2gerr..installer just told me i need to manually create my swap partition... >.< well off to figure out hwo big i'm supposed to make it10:15
dr_willisStephini2:  deoennds on your needs.10:15
jilStephini2, make it 2GB10:15
jilnot more10:15
dr_willisStephini2:  ram+ a little bit moar if you want to uise the hibernate features10:15
Stephini2lolz is there any way to look it up? i have either 1 or 2 on that system...10:16
dr_willisif you have 2gb of ram.. id make a 2.5 gb swap.. unless you are really tight on hd space10:16
Stephini2from within the installer i mean10:16
Stephini2lolz sadly my laptop is doing great for space...my gaming rig on the other hand... >.<10:16
jilfrom the installer I don't know but as you start your computer it should tell you how much ram you have.10:17
Stephini2so should i just do 2500 or actually do the math for the actual MB figure?10:17
jilif not go in the bios.10:17
dr_willisdosent really matter.. just get close10:17
Stephini2ahh kk10:17
Stephini2thanx10:17
Atomskhisto: thx, got in to it and ran ntfsfix, seemed to run pretty quick... did that actually chkdsk???10:18
dr_willisAtomsk:  i thought it dident actually fix anything...10:18
dr_willisAtomsk:  best to recheck from a windows box asap10:18
ActionParsnipStephini2: 2500 will do10:19
jilExcept from bad memory, what can cause my brand new netinstall of ubuntu to give different md5sum on the same image disk?10:19
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dr_willisjil where did the image come from? differnt from what?10:20
x-os_palhello! after installing mplayer and smplayer and verifying that all the media codes in the world are in /usr/lib/codecs i'm still not able to play wmv in smplayer...help please?10:20
jilit's the ubuntu LTS image10:20
ActionParsnipx-os_pal: install w32codecs from medibuntu10:20
dr_willisx-os_pal:  wmv can contain DRM and other codecs that dont exist on linux.  (or cant work on linux)10:21
jilI'm running md5sum several times on the same ubuntu.iso file and I several results.  :)10:21
dr_willisnormally you can run th e player from a terminal and it will spit out codec info about the files10:21
dr_willisjil that is odd..10:21
dr_willisjil could be a hd issue10:22
jilI get several resulst.  I suspect my memory to have a problem but I'de like to hear other stories if you have10:22
Stephini2now i just gotta get the latest websphere or whatever it's called on win8 and a good ftp client on my linux and i can start working on my website...10:22
x-os_palActionParsnip: just verified that i have installed that10:22
x-os_paldr_willis: works fine on arch -_-10:22
dr_willisbetter to use ssh/sftp then  ftp Stephini210:22
Atomskugh, yeah, xecpt it's a laptop, the hard drive is burried deep inside, can't run windows chkdsk from command line cause don't now admin password, orphcrack password hack can't find anything, plus I think it's got two bad sticks of memory10:22
dr_willisx-os_pal:  determine what codec the file is using10:22
ActionParsnipx-os_pal: try installing vlc10:22
x-os_paldr_willis: MSS210:23
dr_willisi find vlc beats mplayer most of the time these days10:23
x-os_palActionParsnip: i have..VLC tells me there isnt any way to play MSS210:23
x-os_paldr_willis: agreed10:23
Stephini2dr_willis my godaddy has FTP access...dunno if it even supports ssh/sftp...but if it does i suspect that will cost extra so should wait till my site is actually receiving traffic before worrying about security...heh10:23
dr_willischeck the mplayer and vlc forums  - and search for the mss2 codec - there may be known issues10:23
x-os_paldr_willis: will do. be back soon with news.10:24
Ben64Atomsk: its very easy to remove passwords from windows installs10:24
dr_willisif its a wmv.. id convert it to a better format. ;)10:24
x-os_paldr_willis: after finding solutions like convert the files or use windows...that really arent solutions at all i tried playing one of those MSS2 wmv vids with mplayer from terminal and it worked just fine...any clue as to what i should do for smplayer to have similar reseults10:30
Ben64smplayer is mplayer, they should work the same : /10:31
dr_willissmplayer uses mplayer as its backend..10:31
x-os_palBen64: that's what i though.10:31
dr_willisyou mean mplayer on a differnt disrto vs smplayer on ubuntu?10:31
x-os_paldamn...my typing is all over the place today...sorry all10:31
dr_willisrun from terminal. look for error messages when you play it10:31
x-os_paldr_willis: i'm using bodhi on an atom netbook with 2GB ram...i really wanted to see whats up with E17 final. i come from arch. everything i've tried just now with the wmv files is on bodhi10:32
x-os_paldr_willis: righto10:32
Ben64you realize this is #ubuntu , right?10:33
dr_willisso let s clarify... mplayer works on bodhi for the same file.. thsat dosent work on smplayer on ubuntu?10:33
x-os_palBen64: bodhi is ubuntu10:33
Ben64no10:33
dr_willisbodhi is not ubuntu.10:33
* tuannie test10:34
dr_willissmplayer calls mplayer with specific options.. so it may be some incompatable option10:34
Ben64i don't even have smplayer installed, mplayer is all the player I need10:34
x-os_palit's an ubuntu derivative..i don't see how trouble shooting my issue on ubuntu or on bodhi can have that big a difference...anywho, smplayer ran from terminal gives me no errors. howerever smplayer does 'play' the video in 8 second inrements with no audio10:35
dr_willisthey could be compiling in differnt options or all sorts of things...10:36
dr_willisso..  now its 'neither smplayer or mplayer' play the video correctly?10:36
Ben64we just can't support every single thing that is based on ubuntu. they change things and stuff we say could not work, or break it.10:36
Ben64plus the number of derivatives is already huge and growing still10:37
x-os_paldr_willis: well thanks for your patience any way. mplayer plays it just fine..via terminal of corse. smplayer plays video in 8second increments with no audio10:37
x-os_palBen64: in understand that. but i doubt theres a better place to go than here. only looking for help finding a solution..not looking for someone to do all the work for me buddy10:38
Ben64#bodhilinux10:39
x-os_paldr_willis: oh...now smplayer is playing the video just fine with no audio..ha!10:40
dr_willisgoogle says mplayer supports mss2 via  the avcodec package.. that package has dozens of compile time options as to what  it may or may not support on a given disrto10:40
dr_willisand the mss codec seems to be very much experimental from the google hits ive seen10:40
x-os_paldr_willis: excellent. that's a great place to start. thanks.10:40
dr_willisonly wmv files i see on a regular basis are.. well.. lets say.. from adult ssites..10:41
x-os_palBen64: it's naive to think that i haven't already tried that but thanks anyway..10:41
ActionParsnipdr_willis: could convert the file :)10:42
x-os_paldr_willis: in my googling and personal issue ive fonud lots of people looking for answers for certification track videos other than porn =p10:42
dr_willisActionParsnip:  if ffmpeg or mpolayer have the right options compiled in10:42
dr_willisx-os_pal:  and those would have DRM protection on them10:42
x-os_paldr_willis: its all educational..i supppse10:42
Ben64x-os_pal: "i doubt theres a better place to go than here." #bodhilinux is literally the place to go on irc for bodhi support10:43
dr_williswhich would be why players on linux have such issues10:43
* dr_willis says WMV - Just let it Be!10:43
nabblethisto: btw, did the filerecovery of that dude previously work? (fruity loops on mac book and win OS)10:44
Hell_FireI've got an issue, been trying to work out of ubuntu would be a decent replacement for my debian server, is just a home server, nothing production quality :P.  But it's main storage is btrfs on LUKS cryptdisks, and replicating that setup on a VM, I'm seeing all kinds of race conditions in the init side.  Originally I was getting btrfs-tools not adding an upstart job to scan devices for mounting (debian has a similar bug in it's init10:44
Hell_Firefor it, which is why I looked), but now I've got cryptdisks-enable not getting run till after mountall has run, workaround would be to have another upstart job mount the fs as cryptdisks-enable enters stopped, but it's a hack and doesn't give me the nice functionality of halting the boot if the filesystem is unavailable (since my home is a subvolume on the btrfs system, I'd like it to come up with the rest of the local filesystems)10:44
dr_willisI wont even mention this Malware WMV one co-worker  managed to find...    still not sure how it infected his windows box.. but  i made $20 with a ubuntu live cd recoverying the data10:44
zvacetx-os_pal: do you use 64 bit version?10:44
Ben64dr_willis: $20? man you gotta start charging $60 an hour at least10:45
dr_willisBen64:  he would do machine shop work for me. ;)10:46
x-os_paldr_willis: you think so? thanks for all the guidence! off to put it to good use.10:46
Ben64or that :D10:46
spexiHi! When I want to find out is certain software installed, is there a way to do it without knowing the exact name? e.g. apt-cache policy apache finds nothing, I have to first do apt-cache search apache (with lots and lots of rows) and then I scroll the results and find out package name apache2. After that I can only do the apt-cache policy apache2.10:46
x-os_palzvacet: no 32-bit10:46
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dr_willisspexi:  look into apt-file perhaps?10:46
Ben64spexi: dpkg -l | grep apache10:46
nabbletspexi: i think dpkg -l will give you a lsit of all installed packages - then you can use grep oir scroll10:46
nabblet*or10:46
spexiah, okay10:47
spexithanks to all of you10:47
x-os_palBen64: you would have a great point provided that the fine folk at #bodhilinux knew as much about ubuntu t-shooting over E17 t-shooting10:47
zvacetx-os_pal: because I found (maybe it is changed in mean time) that you can use that codecs only in 32 bit version with w32 codecs installed see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207122910:47
Ben64x-os_pal: then maybe you should use ubuntu10:48
kunji1Where did you even find an MSS2 file....10:49
x-os_palBen64: i tried that once...then i couldnt for the life of me figure out how to become root...like real root. i don't mean to start a dirto-war in an ubuntu irc channel so i won't start comparing arch to ubuntu..not in here at least. =p10:49
x-os_palzvacet: yea i stumbled upon that too in my google-ing thanks though!10:49
zvacetx-os_pal: real root    sudo -i10:50
zvacetx-os_pal: bodhi comes with very few things installed did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras w32 codecs etc...10:50
x-os_palzvacet: not a fan of the way ubuntu basterdized the whole sudoers thing...yes of course10:51
Ben64you don't make any sense. you don't like ubuntu so you use bodhi, but you refuse to use their help and come to #ubuntu instead10:51
Hell_Firewhat's bastardized about it? sudo is sudo, su is su :P10:52
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zvacetBen64: bodhi is based on 12.04 with e17  ;)10:52
Ben64but we don't support "based on"10:52
nearsthi ppl10:52
jpds!root | x-os_pal10:52
ubottux-os_pal: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:52
icerootzvacet: and ubuntu is based on debian but this is not the debian-support channel and debian is not the ubuntu support channel10:53
Ben64!backtrack10:53
ubottuThere are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)10:53
ActionParsnipx-os_pal: how is it bastardized?10:53
zvaceticeroot: but ubuntu doesn´t use debian repos itsn´t it? basiclly he use precise with e1710:54
ActionParsnipzvacet: no, and mixing the 2 will give you issues10:54
icerootzvacet: he is not using an official ubuntu release so its offtopic10:54
dr_willishmm i thought ubuntu used sudo pretty much as it was written10:54
ActionParsnipdr_willis: me too, its used as designed10:54
dr_willisor at least thats what i gathered from the sudo home page. ;)10:55
Ben64just can't do "su" to get a root shell like you can on other distros10:55
dr_willisactually im finding more and more disrtos going that route.10:55
ActionParsnipBen64: you can use su to become other users though10:55
Ben64yep10:55
Hell_FireBen64: sure you can, but su isn't just for (s)witch (u)ser to root though :P10:56
ActionParsnipHell_Fire: you'd need the root pass, which doesn't exist in ubuntu10:56
anathema_hi i get a black screen after trying to boot from usb/dvd the ubuntu 12.10 (in laptop with preinstalled win8)10:56
Hell_FireActionParsnip: sudo passwd root :P10:56
anathema_using x6410:56
ActionParsnipanathema_: what video chip do you use10:56
Ben64Hell_Fire: nooo10:56
ActionParsnipHell_Fire: thats not needed, or advvised10:56
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dr_willissudo sudo sudo cd10:56
ActionParsnipHell_Fire: you can use:  sudo -i    and get a root prompt10:57
anathema_ActionParsnip, nvidia10:57
Hell_FireI know that :P10:57
ActionParsnipanathema_: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=110:57
anathema_ActionParsnip, nvidia (Asus Laptop)10:57
Hell_FireI'm an oldhat, ignore me :P10:57
Ben64anathema_: does it have the dual gpu thingy?10:57
ActionParsnipHell_Fire: so why enable the account when its not needed?10:57
anathema_Ben64, idk10:57
kunji1What do you mean you can't su to be root?10:58
Ben64anathema_: could you give us the model number?10:58
anathema_yeah10:58
Ben64kunji1: on other distros, you can do "su" then type in your root password to become root. that doesn't work on ubuntu10:58
kunji1Ben64: huh, but you just sudo su, no?10:58
Hell_FireBecause /root is on the root device, and for those running /home on a seperate partiton/nfs/whatever it's handy to not scatter stuff all over the system10:58
icerootkunji1: sudo su is wrong10:59
zvacetBen64: sudo -i10:59
Ben64sudo -i if you really need to10:59
nearstsu -10:59
Hell_FireBut again, oldhat, ignore me :P10:59
kunji1iceroot: Could you explain why, it's all I had heard for it until quite recenlty10:59
nearstnah.. sudo is beauty of ubuntu, why dont use it!10:59
ActionParsnipkunji1: sudo -i   uses the user profile. dead handy10:59
icerootkunji1: sudo su = calling su as root and that is setting the env wrong, because sudo already gave you root access, so you are using su as root to become root11:00
ActionParsnipHell_Fire: yues but its a security risk, so i'd say its a bad hat to have, not old11:00
anathema_Ben64, ASUS A55VD-SX406H with Geforce 610M (2gb)11:00
anathema_I've tried to disable Fast boot / secure boot11:01
kunji1iceroot: does that introduce any actual issues?11:01
ActionParsnipanathema_: yep, dual gpu11:01
Hell_Fireno, insecure passphrases are a security risk full stop, once an attacker is in the system, they're only a local exploit or poorly configured system away from root anyway11:01
icerootkunji1: sure11:01
ActionParsnipHell_Fire: but reducing active accounts, especially common ones like root is advantageous11:01
icerootkunji1:  a wrong enviroment11:01
icerootkunji1: maybe a wrong PATH or wrong locale settings11:02
ActionParsnipanathema_: you will want the ubuntu bumblebee how to11:02
anathema_ActionParsnip, ok where i can find it11:02
nearstgo debian if wanna use root user :)11:02
ActionParsnipHell_Fire: plus its not supported or advised in Ubuntu11:02
ActionParsnipanathema_: seek and ye shall find11:02
anathema_ActionParsnip, this laptop has UEFI and Win8 Preinstalled, Is there away for dual boot?11:02
ActionParsnipnearst: you can use root in ubuntu, just getting to it is slightly different11:03
ActionParsnipanathema_: not sure with uefi, never had the misfortune to use it11:03
Hell_Firesure, but so is running things like denyhosts, linux is linux is linux, doesn't matter the distro :P11:03
nearstActionParsnip, ya. i know. im always use root anyway :)11:03
x-os_pali appologize for starting this sudo debate. i guess it's a personal thing cause i lost a great job moving everything over to linux in a medium-sized A/V equipment company because their full time sysadmin couldnt literally log in as root with ubuntu and when i mentioned something like arch he said 'what..no..'11:03
crkanathema_: There is a way11:03
icerootnearst: debian expert installation is not creating a root account, its using the same sudo thing that ubuntu is using11:03
crkIt's documented on the Ubuntu site11:03
kunji1iceroot: Hmm, you're saying that sudo then you use the user's environment, and sudo su you will use root's?  But then sudo -i, you still use the regular user's , or root's?11:03
icerootkunji1: roots11:04
crkanathema_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting11:04
anathema_ActionParsnip, i found that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee but I cannot boot with live usb/dvd only Black11:04
ActionParsnipanathema_: try the boot option I gave earlier11:04
nearsticeroot, ya. i agree that. root use will damage the system. especially rm -rf / :)11:04
Hell_Firex-os_pal: sounds like their fulltime sysadmin didn't know what they were on about11:04
icerootnearst: that will do nothing11:04
kunji1iceroot: If what I said above was correct, then I don't see the difference between sudo su (use root's) and sudo -i (again use root's).11:04
icerootnearst: but yes i know what you mean11:04
x-os_palHell_Fire: that's how things work in greece man...11:05
nearsticeroot, np. sharing is caring :)11:05
Hell_Firex-os_pal: happens alot everywhere :)11:05
icerootkunji1: as i already said sudo su = calling su as root, 1. it must be su - instead of su, 2. it will set the env wrong11:05
anathema_ActionParsnip, after the quiet splash --?11:06
icerootkunji1: sudo su is the same as11:06
anathema_ActionParsnip, I typed "e" in "Try ubuntu..."11:06
icerootkunji1: su -c su11:06
nearstif wanna use root at ubuntu. do sudo passwd (root passwd) then su - (root passwd) for root@localhost name :P11:06
icerootkunji1: and that is wrong because you will not have the correct environemtn11:06
icerootkunji1: sudo i is not calling a program as root to become root11:06
Myrttinearst: no.11:07
icerootkunji1: sudo su is calling a program as root to become root. for further infos see "man sudo"11:07
Ben64why do people keep wanting a root password?11:07
lhavelundnearst: We don't support that here.11:07
lhavelund!root | nearst11:07
ubottunearst: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:07
icerootnearst: you dont need a root shell, use sudo  like sudo apt-get11:07
MonkeyDustBen64  I guess because they don't like enetering the password a lot11:08
ActionParsnipanathema_: remove quiet splash and in its place add nouveau.blacklist=111:08
MonkeyDustentering*11:08
anathema_ActionParsnip, thanks11:08
Ben64MonkeyDust: but it remembers it for a while11:08
nearstya. i know. im use sudo instead.11:08
kunji1iceroot: take a second and try it, works fine as "sudo su" doesn't need to be "sudo su -" 2. how is the environment wrong, root's environment should be expected in this case?  I'll read that man page though, maybe we're miscommunicating.11:08
icerootnearst: fine :)11:08
lhavelundnearst: Then please don't suggest it to the channel.11:08
ActionParsnipnearst: just use:  sudo -i    no need for anything else...simples11:08
x-os_pali tried telling him all that including things about the interative flag but he said he wanted to type 'root' as a login and throw a pass at it and become root. any who....11:08
Hell_Fireyou guys go around bickering over basic stuff too much, still nothing about my cryptdisk + btrfs + mountall upstart problem :P11:08
nearstokies. no worries. just sharing11:08
kunji1ActionParsnip: sudo cd ... oh wait...11:09
dydguys what's a nice shell with colored text?11:09
ActionParsnipkunji1: you will be able to traverse all folders as user11:09
lhavelunddyd: ...bash?11:09
ActionParsnipdyd: ncurses ...?11:09
x-os_paldyd: zsh11:09
wdpActionParsnip, ncurses is a shell?11:09
dydthanks11:09
anathema_ActionParsnip, worked! one last question, I run now Ubuntu in Live mode, Can I install it dual booting with Win8 by partitioning the disk in Ubuntu installer?11:09
ActionParsnipwdp: no idea, it has nice colours though11:09
ActionParsnipanathema_: not used win8 at all. I can't really comment. Maybe there are videos on youtube and similar. The dual gpu will probably give you grief11:10
icerootnearst: sudo su does not preserve the environment variables of the original shell.11:10
zvacetanathema_: I think it is better idea to shrink partition from Windows11:10
icerootnearst: its that simple. try it out yourself11:10
anathema_zcacet ok thanks I will try it in Windows11:10
zvacetanathema_:then on unallocated space install ubuntu11:11
nearsticeroot, allright11:11
kunji1ActionParsnip: not true, and trying sudo cd <filename> returns "sudo: cd: command not found"  has done this for ages.11:11
icerootnearst: you will see sudo su will act different then sudo -i or su11:11
anathema_ActionParsnip, thanks for the help. After Installing Ubuntu 12.10. I must install some restricted drivers for nvidia dual ?11:11
BluesKajHi all11:11
ActionParsnipanathema_: you can use bumblebee11:11
hexabitGodmorning! :)11:12
lhavelundGood morning, hexabit.11:13
kunji1iceroot: So what you're actually saying is that what I said earlier was incorrect, aka, using sudo -i you actually do NOT use root's environment, I asked if what I said was correct.11:13
Hell_Firesu by itself passes the current environment to the new shell, su - or su -l sets it up more like a fresh login shell, as does sudo -i11:13
nearsticeroot, ty for info11:13
Hell_Firesudo -i does use roots environment11:13
hexabitlhavelund: lhavelund is that a swedish name?11:14
Hell_Firejust run export under the new shells to see the differences :P11:14
anathema_ActionParsnip, is that a kind of restricted drivers?11:14
nearstanathema_, drivers?11:14
lhavelundhexabit: It isn't. Men det ár11:14
lhavelundär offtopic för denna kanal ;)11:14
lhavelund(This channel is support only.)11:15
ActionParsnipanathema_: its a project to accommodate optimus. nvidia stated they would not be supporting it outside of windows (they latr joined the linux foundation so this may change). Imho it is best avoided11:15
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hexabitlhavelund: Jag förstår. Sorry! :)11:15
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icerootkunji1: The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified by the password database entry of the target user as a login shell.11:16
icerootkunji1: it will create the env because its a initial login11:16
icerootkunji1: This means that login-specific resource files such as .profile or .login will be read by the shell11:16
icerootkunji1: also see "man sudo"11:16
kunji1iceroot: yeah, I just finished reading the man page entry for it11:17
kunji1iceroot: that's the man page I was talking about11:18
kunji1Regardless, I almost always use sudo, was only using sudo su for that folder traversal issue, I'm not adverse to using sudo -i, I just wanted to actually know the rationale, ^_^11:18
icerootkunji1: folder traversal issue?11:19
icerootkunji1: you mean because after that you are in a different directory?11:19
x-os_paldr_willis: this is funny...changed the 'mplayer executable' field in smplayers general options from 'mplayer' to '/usr/bin/mplayer' then video was perfect. then changed the audio output driver field to alsa (rather than pulse) and now everything is just fine. ha! ..fun stuff. thanks again for all your support!11:19
kunji1iceroot: No, I mean, there are folders you need root access to cd to, but sudo cd does not work.11:22
Hell_Firecd is a bash internal11:22
woohello everybody11:22
Hell_Firethere's no actual system command called "cd" :) when you "run" cd, you're telling the current copy of bash to change the working directory to another dir11:23
Hell_Fireif you run "help" from a bash shell, it'll show you the other bash internal commands11:24
meooolast attempt11:24
kunji1Hell_Fire: Right, but I need to do that with root level access, so sudo -i is considered the way to roll for that right?11:24
meoooany gui app for recording month internet data usage ?11:25
meooofor ubuntu 11.0411:25
Hell_Fireyeh, sudo -i gives you a bash shell running as root, which you can then do whatever with11:25
ActionParsnipmeooo: natty is no longer supported11:25
MonkeyDustmeooo  first upgrade, then ask again11:25
ActionParsnipmeooo: i recommend a clean install of Precise, it is LTS and supported til April 201711:25
meoooi cna't upgrade11:26
Ben64sure you cna11:26
kunji1Hell_Fire: Right, and that's what the conversation was about, I used to sudo su, but now that I know about sudo -i, and why it's preferred, ^_^11:26
meooono space for it11:26
meoooand my system is ollllld11:26
ActionParsnipmeooo: clean install Xubuntu 12.04, you'll be fine11:26
kunji1meooo: Have you tried apt-get clean?11:26
ActionParsnipmeooo: bet my systems are older11:26
Ben64or bleachbit11:27
MonkeyDustmeooo  and apt-get autoremove11:27
meooo i don't want to remove anyting11:27
wookujin1, I use " sudo sh" but I break things with it sometimes11:27
ActionParsnipmeooo: natty isn't supported any more and there are no packages for it11:27
schnoodlesHey what is the best way to install chrome and skype in ubuntu ?11:27
ActionParsnipschnoodles: there is no single best way11:28
kunji1meooo: If you have a larger disk you could try ddrescue, to image to that, swap the drives, then upgrade.11:28
ActionParsnipschnoodles: you can grab the deb files from the websites for both apps. Skype is also in the partner repo. You will need to manually download chrome11:28
midnight_hi11:28
meooowhy clean install ? why not upgrade ?11:28
Hell_Firekunji1: if you look into the manpage for su as well, you'll see that the equivilent for sudo -i would actually be sudo su -, or sudo su -l, the sudo equivilent for sudo su would be sudo -E bash, but I really wouldn't recommend it, it keeps all your environment the same, so HOME is still set to the users home dir, and because of that, when you're in "~", you're not in /root, but in /home/username :P gets a little funky11:28
MonkeyDustmeooo  clean install is faster and more efficient11:29
kunji1Might it be possible to store files downloaded for upgrading on external media?11:29
ActionParsnipmeooo: because it installs the OS as it is supposed to be installed. You will also need t upgrade to Oneiric then to Precise.11:29
meooothen i will need to re install all the apps11:29
ActionParsnipmeooo: indeed. You can restore user data from your backups11:29
icerootkunji1: and for something like that you have "sudo -i" its the same problem as "echo "true" > /proc/foobar"  only the first command is running as root but not the next steps the command is doing11:30
kunji1Hell_Fire: Thanks11:30
MonkeyDustmeooo  first make list of the installed programs, so you can apt-get install them after the upgrade11:30
ActionParsnipkunji1: you can get around it with:  echo "true" | sudo tee /proc/foobar11:30
kunji1iceroot: Thanks as well ^_^11:31
meoooi'm afraid after doing that the tv tuner will fail to work11:31
icerootkunji1: no problem, you are welcome11:31
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ActionParsnipmeooo: then you have 2 choices. Stay and have no support or any upgrades at all, or upgrade and get support11:31
kunji1ActionParsnip: and you too :P.11:31
Ben64it's not likely that a device that works in 11.04 will stop working in 12.0411:32
kunji1meooo: If you can, make a backup, then go for the clean install.11:32
MonkeyDustmeooo  it's best to not reject or refuse every and any advice you're getting here11:32
ActionParsnipkunji1: to add to a file, use:  | sudo tee -a /proc/foobar    the -a means (a)dd :)11:32
meoooubuntu tv tuner support is very poor11:33
meoooneed a lot of work to get it work11:33
Ben64which tuner11:33
MonkeyDustmeooo  maybe it's easier after you upgraded11:33
meooophiliops turner11:33
ActionParsnipmeooo: depends on the chip. Ive had them work out of the box11:33
Ben64need a model number11:33
kunji1I do have a wireless adapter I might need to put back to 11.10... never did get my tuner to work, but I haven't tried since 9.10.11:33
Ben64my tv tuner works great, but its one designed for linux :)11:34
MonkeyDustBen64  you're a linux-geek11:35
meoooPhilips SAA713011:35
Ben64MonkeyDust: you say that like its bad11:35
kunji1Ben64: Which one is it?11:35
ActionParsnipmeooo: try the 12.04 liveCD and see if the device works11:35
MonkeyDustmeooo  if you can download programs, then you can download the 12.04 iso11:36
Ben64kunji1: pchdtv hd-550011:36
kunji1Ben64: Thanks11:36
Ben64i have it hooked up for OTA hdtv, works perfectly with mythtv on ubuntu11:37
Ben64meooo: looks like it works with a bit of configuring in 12.0411:38
EaglemanI am looking for a script that runs fetchmail at an succesfull imap login11:38
MonkeyDustEagleman  better ask in #bash11:39
stephiniok every guide says to install themes to ~/.themes... but no such folder seems to exist... >.<11:39
Ben64stephini: then make it :)11:40
MonkeyDuststephini  mkdir ~/.themes to create it11:40
meooook11:41
midnight_Hi, i've seen the ubuntu phone video. Is there a sort of simulator around ?11:41
stephinitheme download still only has the 4 defaults in it.11:41
stephinitheme dropdown*11:41
ActionParsnipmidnight_: try in #ubuntu-phone11:42
midnight_thanks ActionParsnip11:43
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Ben64stephini: you might need to log out and back in or something11:43
stephiniben64 i'll try that when my updates are done11:45
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BrittanyHey everyone. Just curious, using an ubuntu 12.10 64b distribution, I've noticed that the few games I play are rather slow in frame rate on my AMD 6870 card. I'm not sure why this may be, but it's almost as though there's no GPU acceleration, anyone have any idea what I can do?11:48
midnight_try to use the accelerated graphics driver11:49
ActionParsnipBrittany: did you install the proprietary video driver/11:49
midnight_@Brittany: install first linux-headers11:50
midnight_@Brittany and then fglrx package11:50
Theodorehello11:50
ActionParsniphi Theodore11:50
Theodorewhat is the best app to network two ubuntu os's ?11:50
Theodoreto view each others desktops?11:50
dr_willisTheodore:  the term network is a little vague in that ussage. ;)11:50
Kartagisvinagre11:50
dr_willisTheodore:  shared desktops. gnome has vino/vinigre built in11:51
dr_willisTheodore:  check out synergy if you can see each pcs monitor also from the same location11:51
dr_willisTheodore:  and learn about ssh and its X forwarding feature11:51
BrittanyActionParsnip : I haven't. Any idea where I'd grab that?11:51
Brittanymidnight_ : Thanks I'll give that a go.11:51
ActionParsnip!ati | Brittany11:52
ubottuBrittany: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto11:52
stephiniwelp still just the 4 defaults... >.<11:52
BrittanyCheers.11:52
MonkeyDustTheodore  i've used teamviever between linux-host and linux in virtualbox, for testing puproses11:52
midnight_@brittany: ive a ati radeon 7970 . use apt-get install linux-headers and then apt-get install fglrx .. then reboot pc11:52
BrittanyHaha , matrox, woow.11:52
Brittanylinux-headers --- generic package or a certain distro?11:53
ActionParsnipold skool11:53
midnight_headers for your kernel version11:53
Ben64Brittany: depends on your kernel11:53
ActionParsnipBrittany: linux-headers-generic if memory serves11:53
TheodoreMonkeyDust, how did you get teamviewer to install on ubuntu 13.04?11:53
Ben64ActionParsnip: only if she's on generic kernel11:53
midnight_headers are need to recompile the module kernel11:53
ActionParsnipTheodore: ask in #ubuntu+1 for prerelease support11:54
Ben64i installed a 32 bit system recently, and it uses -generic-pae, so you can't just trust -generic to work11:54
ActionParsnipBrittany: i believe the headers will be pulled in as deps11:54
BrittanyI am on  generic kernel.11:54
ActionParsnipBen64: true11:54
ActionParsnipBrittany: what is the output of:  uname -r11:54
Brittany3.5.0.-21-generic11:54
Brittanyminus the period after the 0.11:54
ActionParsnipBrittany: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic11:54
midnight_so try to launch sudo apt-get install linux-headers11:55
Ben64there's got to be an easy way11:55
midnight_you should see a list of valid package11:55
ActionParsnip!info  linux-headers-generic11:55
ubottulinux-headers-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.21.27 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB11:55
Brittanymymy.. fglrx is quite large.11:55
midnight_eh yep11:55
Brittanymight as well go make some food whilst on this line.11:55
ActionParsnipBrittany: its a video driver, its largish in windows too11:56
Ben64sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*\-/-/g`11:56
Ben64there, that should work on every system11:56
Ben64:D11:56
ActionParsnipBen64: showoff :)11:56
Ben64oh wait, i think it might mess up on pae...11:57
Ben64sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`11:58
Ben64fixed11:58
dtrubyI'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and I did a system update yesterday. Since this update my lxc containers won't boot, they just hang with some mount errors. Anyone know how to fix this?12:02
BrittanyActionParsnip : Shall I reboot before doing the binarydriverhowto?12:03
ActionParsnipBrittany: i would12:03
Brittanycheers.12:04
MonkeyDustdtruby  some 70 people in the channel #lxcontainers12:08
dtrubyMonkeyDust: Ok, I'll try asking there. Seemed like an ubuntu specific problem to me though, since it was working before the update12:08
mediacenterix12:10
Brittanymidnight_ actionparsnip , thanks! Now I can play Minecraft between my work. :)12:10
wooI uninstalled and reinstalled compiz now unity fails to load. 12.04 64 Ubuntu12:10
stephinidoes ubuntu only support 4 workspaces or am i missing an option somewhere?12:10
ActionParsnipstephini: you can use ccsm to add more12:11
folivora_Hi, I have disk *sdb* which is Dell iDRAC disk, I need to exclude it from the system, how I should do this ?12:11
ActionParsnipwoo: can you give the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a12:11
wooActionParsnip: Im in tty112:11
bobweaverwoo, you can use pastebinit ?12:12
ActionParsnipwoo: you can use pastebinit12:12
wooActionParsnip: bobweaver: I'll try12:13
bobweaverwoo,  when you say that when unity tries to load it does not does this mean that you get to login screen and sign in and it just goes black ?12:13
MonkeyDustwoo  type sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a | pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel12:13
woobobweaver: background wallpaper displays no buttons12:13
a111Is there a way to install grub on a EFI based system?12:14
bobweaverwoo,  also with what ActionParsnip  and MonkeyDust  said can you wnter in to terminal  /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p     is it all yes's ?12:14
MonkeyDust!uefi | a111 start here12:14
ubottua111 start here: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI12:14
a111I need to boot in EFI mode for my RAID to work in windows, but I need Ubuntu for something and want to put it on the same system12:14
ActionParsnipwoo: can you log into Unity2D?12:15
dtrubyHere's the specific errors I get when trying to start containers since the update I did yesterday: http://pastebin.com/w50X4B6b12:15
a111ok thanks12:15
woobob unity_support_test -p is "Error: unable to open display"12:16
bobweaverwoo,  yeah you are going to need to have a x started for that sorry aoout thta12:16
bobweaverabout *12:16
bobweaverwoo,  what happens when you type in unity --replace    ?12:17
bobweaverseg fault ?12:17
woohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1537486/12:17
woounity is currently not installed :P12:17
bobweaverOo12:18
bobweaverthat is not right woo  you might want to install if you want to use it12:18
stanman246hi anyone any knowledge on nfsen?12:18
wooit has been installed idk where it could have gone12:19
bobweaverwoo,  maybe when you removed a part of compiz it also removed unity 3d12:20
wooaight reboot time12:20
user___hello.  help me please with data recower. I get this messsage from testdisk http://storage5.static.itmages.ru/i/13/0116/h_1358338567_7561878_e4293fe9ff.png12:21
woothat was fun12:21
woothanks bobweaver12:22
bobweaverwoo,  good !12:22
bobweaverwoo,  why where you removing compiz ?  j/w12:22
woobobweaver, with compiz extras12:23
woobobweaver, tried to just remove what I had added12:23
woobobweaver, messed that all up12:23
bobweaverwoo,  you can see what unity needs with command   apt-cache show unity |awk '/Depends:/,/Recommends:/'12:24
bobweaverwoo,  or better yet   apt-cache show unity |awk '/Depends:/,/Recommends:/'|sed 's|\,|\n|g'12:25
woobobweaver, nice script! ya I still have compiz.  never completely deleted it12:26
woobobweaver, unity vanished after I had reinstalled12:27
bobweaverwoo,  what do you mean "vanished"12:27
bobweaverlike it crashed ?12:27
woobobweaver, the download was strange.  apt-get said I didn't have unity installed.  also said it was like a 3,700kb (if I remember) size download.  It happened in a few seconds.12:28
bobweaverwoo,  you can see what version and if there is new versions read to install with command    apt-cache policy <name of thing>   like apt-cache policy unity12:30
ActionParsnipwoo: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit12:30
woooh and lshw didn't pipe to pastebin but I'll wrk on that12:30
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ActionParsnipwoo: what is the product line and what is the driver in use?12:31
woohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1537521/12:31
ActionParsnipwoo: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig12:32
ActionParsnipwoo: then reboot12:32
wooIntelCore: Nvidia experimental-30412:33
woox is up and working again with unity12:33
woobrb after reboot ActionParsnip12:33
jmscomtechyhow do i install buntu to a android tablet?12:34
woothanks ActionParsnip NVIDIA flashed before the user session start-up12:35
ActionParsnipwoo: probably a cheap monitor12:36
wooI guess standard dell12:36
ActionParsnipwoo: oh well, all ok now :)12:37
wooActionParsnip, better than before12:37
wooI learned about Mark Shuttleworth today12:38
luca__hi i have a problem with empathy, someone can help me?12:38
OerHeksjmscomtechy, all i know is a howto on a nexus7, not sure there are more tablets possible yet > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation12:38
luca__nobody?12:39
bobweaver!details  | luca__12:39
ubottuluca__: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:39
OerHeksjmscomtechy, you might want to try #ubuntu-arm if your device runs on arm12:40
jmscomtechyyeah there too but been there 20 mins now and noones talking12:40
luca__ok sorry. i have ubuntu 12.10, and when i run empathy, i'm always offline, and it's impossible to go online. and facebook and google are red12:41
luca__*facebook chat and google talk12:42
bobweaverluca__,  you have set it up ? press f412:43
bobweaverwith empathy open ^^12:43
luca__yes, sure12:43
luca__and facebook doesn't work also in gwibber12:44
asilhouette1hey guys, whats an average cpu temp for a 3.0 Ghz intel dual core desktop processor?12:45
bobweaverhuh I do not have facebook luca__  yeah i know middle ages over here let me see if I can set up G+ with it12:45
asilhouette1i have psensors, and temp1 is 51 and temp2 is 78 C12:45
MonkeyDustasilhouette1  (51+78)/2 = average12:46
asilhouette1is temp1: 51 and temp2:78C normal?12:46
luca__ok try12:46
johnnyonflameidk whether I should ask this here- but I'll ask away: I'm running a dualboot LUbuntu + Window 7 setup in a 1TB harddrive, and now I got a SSD Drive12:47
bobweaverluca__,  yeah it worked I will make a fake facebook to test , Could you PATEBIN  the output of this in terminal ?  apt-cache  policy  empathy12:47
asilhouette1MonkeyDust: aren't they for different cores12:47
johnnyonflameand I'd like to copy my windows install from the 1TB drive to my SSD, any tips on how to?12:47
asilhouette1and i wasn't asking for the average for my pc, i was asking for a global normal working 3GHz pc. :D12:48
luca__patebin? i've do that12:48
luca__how can i show it to you?12:49
OerHeksjohnnyonflame, wrong channel, try #windows ?12:49
bobweaver!pastebin | luca__12:49
ubottuluca__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:49
asilhouette1MonkeyDust: any ideas?12:49
evgenyhello12:50
luca__!pastebin12:50
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:50
evgenyhow to use set conky on ubuntu 10.1012:50
bobweaverluca__,  yeah fbook works for me with fake fbook account had to make a username for me though12:50
johnnyonflameOerHeks, I was hoping for a Linux solution, but k, thanks anyways12:50
evgenyhow to set conky on ubuntu 10.1012:51
luca__wait12:51
luca__i don't know how to use pastebin!!12:51
bobweaverluca__,  just go to  http://paste.ubuntu.com    enter in text that I asked and press paste then give us link after paste12:52
OerHeksjohnnyonflame, i ( we) don't know if you have the rights to migrate your windows to a SSD, copying is easy with DD12:52
luca__http://paste.ubuntu.com/1537559/12:53
luca__good, sorry12:53
bobweaverthanks12:53
dAnjouhey, i found a bug in the german translation of the adduser manpage. where do i report it?12:53
bobweaver!bug | dAnjou12:53
ubottudAnjou: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.12:53
jacklkCan I play Minecraft on Ubuntu?12:53
UbuntuWarrior@ dAnjou can you show me the bug?12:53
adamkjacklk: Sure.12:54
OerHeksjacklk, sure, you can buy minecraft in softwarecentre12:54
dAnjouUbuntuWarrior: uuh, i can quote it?12:54
bobweaverluca__,  that version is newer then mine but seems to work fine with mine.  can you tell us what happens after you try to add accounts ?12:54
dAnjouUbuntuWarrior: section "Einen System-Benutzer einrichten"12:55
dAnjoufirst sentence: Wird  adduser  ohne  die Option --system und ...12:55
dAnjoushould be: *mit* der Option12:55
bobweaverdAnjou,  is this your 1st bug ?12:55
MonkeyDustasilhouette1  not a clue, sorry12:55
UbuntuWarriorok hab schon verstanden danke :D12:55
dAnjoubobweaver: well, not really. i reported other bugs in other projects. but since this is in a translation, i didn't know where to go.12:56
luca__ok. the online account is added good, but when i open empathy its like this http://imagebin.org/24309412:57
luca__if i click on connect, nothing happen12:57
jacklkName of the MATE package in Ubu?12:57
bobweaverdAnjou,  after entering in ubuntu-bug <name of package>  it will take you to launchpad where you enter what is goinng on it then searchs launch pad to see if it is double if not file it. that is it :)12:58
bobweaverluca__,  I am stupid american can not read that12:58
asilhouette1!temp12:58
dAnjoubobweaver: it's on a server, so i guess i can't use that12:58
dAnjoui'll just do it on my desktop -.-"12:59
asilhouette1!sensors12:59
ubottuTo access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.12:59
dAnjou(that was stupid ^^)12:59
MonkeyDustjacklk  mate is a mint thingy, i guess12:59
bobweaverdAnjou,  thanks for making Ubuntu better by filing a bug !12:59
jacklkMonkeyDust: Really?12:59
dAnjoubobweaver: lol, no problem man :D12:59
jacklkI thought is was a seperate GUI13:00
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dAnjoui'm an advanced user (using it for >5 years now)13:00
luca__it simply said to go online to see my contacts, but if a click on disponible in the notification  center, nothing happen13:00
luca__my empathy is always offline13:00
thec4kemate is basically gnome 213:00
polygons_hey guys, i have a 5 year old laptop with a 160gb laptop.  i've been a linux user for 15 years, but i need windows for work.  so i want to dual boot.  how would you partition with win8 and xubuntu?  thanks!13:00
jacklkthec4ke: That's why I want to install it.13:00
thec4kedunno if its in the ubuntu repos but source is available and there are tons of binary packages online13:00
EaglemanAre there commands to give the group owner of a file the same permissions as the user owner ?13:01
luca__i've already tried pidgin, but it doesn't work well13:01
MonkeyDustjacklk  thec4ke it *looks* like gnome2, but it is gnome313:01
luca__there's nothing to do?13:01
thec4keMonkeyDust: youre thinking of cinnamon13:01
thec4kemate is gnome2 based13:01
jacklkyah13:01
bobweaverpolygons_,  I would bootlive cd then make a partition for windows to install to with gparted. then install windows to that. Just one way though13:01
jribEagleman: you mean to copy the user permissions automatically to the group?13:02
jacklkCan MATE be installed on Ubuntu?13:02
k5673!dualboot13:02
Eaglemanyes jrib13:02
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot13:02
bobweaver!info  mate13:02
ubottuPackage mate does not exist in quantal13:02
jribEagleman: not really.  Just use chmod to set them to what you want13:02
k5673!dualboot | polygons_13:02
ubottupolygons_: please see above13:02
polygons_bobweaver, thanks ,i'm thinking of 130 win8 and then 2 swap and 28 xubuntu.  i can use the big win8 partition to store files.13:02
philinuxpolygons_: I would use virtualbox13:02
jacklkSo Ubuntu has no support for Gnome 2 and MATE the best DEs ever>13:02
jacklk?13:02
thec4kejacklk: http://mate-desktop.org/install/13:03
Eaglemanjrib, i got like 500 files, i cant do everything mannually13:03
polygons_philinux, my computer is too crappy for that :)13:03
bobweaverphilinux,  +1 if you have the ram13:03
thec4keyou add the mate repo then sudo apt-get install13:03
OerHeksjacklk, ubuntu does not support mate, join the mint channel13:03
jribEagleman: you want different permissions on 500 files?  You don't just want g=rwx or g=rw?13:04
thec4kemate isnt mint specific13:04
thec4keit was actually conceived by an arch user13:04
jarlathShutting down 12.04 takes me to the greeter. I have tests, bootcharts etc. Anyone guess what's going on? http://askubuntu.com/questions/243630/shut-down-takes-me-to-greeter-now#comment301883_24363013:04
Eaglemanjrib, i want the exact same user permissions on the group permissions13:04
Eaglemaneach file could have different permissions on them13:05
philinuxjacklk: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-mate-14-desktop-in-ubuntu.html13:05
jribEagleman: you're going to have to script it, but honestly the possibilities are so few that it will be easier to just use find for each possibility that does actually show up (I'd be surprised if it's more than 2) and then use chmod on that group13:05
ActionParsnipjarlath: if you run:   sudo shutdown -h now     does it die?13:05
philinuxjacklk: loads of other links from an "ubuntu mate" search13:05
jribEagleman: can I ask why you want to do this by the way?13:06
midnighthello, i've an amd fx 8350 on my ubuntu box and i've noticied a very high temperature on the CPU. I've also activate cool'n' quiet but the temperature is over than windows. Is there anything to control the power management?13:06
jribEagleman: hmm, apparently you *can* copy them with: chmod g=u.  See if that works.13:07
Ben64midnight: how are you seeing the temperature13:07
ActionParsnipmidnight: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue13:07
Eaglemanjrib, in my apache2 web folder, i have for example this:  -rw-r--r--  1 robin    www-data  2719 Jan 14 23:31 xmlrpc.php   However i want the second r to be replaced with rw13:07
midnightBen64: in primis i hear the cpu fan13:07
midnightBen64: then i see the value of the bios13:08
Ben64midnight: you reboot to check temp?13:08
midnightyes13:08
jribEagleman: ok, but do note that it's a bad idea security-wise to give www-data (presumably the group that your web-server is running as) write permissions on files the web server doesn't actually need to write to13:08
Eaglemanjrib, thats the problem, it needs write permissions on those files. its how they were extracted13:09
Ben64midnight: unless the temperature causes a shutdown, you shouldn't worry abou it13:09
polygons_geez, sorry i got kicked out.  what do you guys think of 130 win8 and then 30 ubuntu and using win8 to store docuements?13:09
jarlathActionParsnip: yes, that works. As does sudo reboot.13:09
jribEagleman: k, just making sure you are aware13:09
ActionParsnipjarlath: sounds like a permissions thing then13:09
ActionParsnipmidnight: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue13:10
midnightActionParsnip: i cant see now, im in office13:10
philinuxpolygons_: you could have a dedcated ntfs data partition13:10
polygons_philinux, i could, but i'm not sure how big to make the win8 partition, ya know?13:10
ActionParsnipno worries, if its 12.10 then you may want to try XFCE13:11
philinuxpolygons_: no idea. someone else might13:11
polygons_philinux, but if i use win8 to store files, then i don't haev to know?  how big should i make hte xubuntu partition?13:11
jarlathActionParsnip: Okay, I don't know a lot about the shutdown process. I've changed permissions on a shared partition but nothing on the root filesystem. Any idea where I should be poking around?13:12
polygons_philinux: i was thinking 30 gigs?13:12
ActionParsnippolygons_: 30gb for for / is plenty :)13:12
ActionParsnipjarlath: not sure, I suggest you report a bug. State that the sudo thing works13:13
philinuxpolygons_: if ubuntu is not used to store files then 10 gigs would do.  my root is only showing 4 gig out of 10 used13:13
philinuxafter 2 years running13:13
polygons_ActionParsnip: philinux  thanks!  can i mount the home directory inside of a windows partition?  wierd eh?13:13
philinuxpolygons_: and I remove old kernels13:13
philinuxno13:14
polygons_philinux: wow, that's really tight!13:14
Eaglemanjrib:  chmod g+u file13:14
jacklkpolygons_: That's what she said.13:14
jribEagleman: no, g=u13:14
polygons_ActionParsnip: philinux: is ubuntu bigger and slower than xubuntu in reality?13:14
polygons_jacklk: lol13:14
ActionParsnippolygons_: usually, xubuntu is designed to be light13:15
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AndChat|296121Hi13:15
ioriaplygons_: i have a dual boot xp - ubuntu maverick on an ibm netvista 40G13:15
midnightAndChat: hi13:15
vjacobhiya. will a 3,0 Gbps (SATA 2.0 it seems) adaptor allow connection to an ATA-600 disk normally?13:15
icerootvjacob: ##hardware13:15
ActionParsnippolygons_: I suggest a 10Gb /home partition and use your NTFS for storing casual data, if yuo are intending to dual boot13:15
polygons_ioria: that shounds brave!13:15
Eaglemanjrib why = ?13:15
AndChat|296121Midnight: i13:16
jribEagleman: because you said you wanted the permissions to be the same13:16
polygons_ActionParsnip: thanks!13:16
midnightAndChat|296121: are u using a phone to chat?13:17
polygons_phi13:17
polygons_philinux: thanks!13:17
AndChat|296121@yes13:17
polygons_ActionParsnip: thanks!13:17
AndChat|296121@midnight yes13:17
AndChat|296121Midnight: yes13:17
jacklkAndChat|296121: Which phone do you have?13:17
AndChat|296121Samsung note13:18
AndChat|296121I have put ubuntu on it13:18
ActionParsnippolygons_: or, have an entirely separate partition for casual data which both OSes use, maks backups easier too13:18
philinuxpolygons_: data partition is the way to go +113:19
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midnightis there a way to see the cpu and power management state via some command?13:21
fidel_midnight: top/htop are nice for monitoring current cpu usage13:22
fidel_if that helps13:22
jarlathActionParsnip: I've added myself to this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/83879213:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 838792 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) ""Restart" logs out, even when there are no other people logged in" [High,Confirmed]13:22
midnightfidel_: sure i use them and the monitor program13:22
midnightfidel_ but i want to know what power management is in use13:22
Kowalczykhi.. anyone run xen on ubuntu 12.10 server? I dont get network in my domU. I have setup bridged networking. but still no network in domU.. I followed the ubuntu xen page. + networking from xen wiki.13:24
petergkhey all13:24
thebananafishis there an easy way to gpg encrypt a multipart 7zip archive?13:26
ActionParsnipthebananafish: anything in the man page for 7z ?13:27
Kowalczykanything im doing wrong?13:27
thebananafishActionParsnip: what do you mean? I don't totaly trust 7zip to do it I guess, I would just like to use gpg after I make the archive13:28
ActionParsnipthebananafish: http://superuser.com/questions/95522/best-secure-encryption-for-zip-files-via-linux13:29
saju_mHow to text squid authentication,  have any tool for that ? http://dpaste.com/879040/13:29
Test5555test chat13:29
thebananafishActionParsnip: everyone on that page gpg is best choice...13:30
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ActionParsnipthebananafish: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/encrypting-and-decrypting-files-with-gnupg/16813:30
llutzthebananafish: create a single archive in 7zip, encrypt it, split it (man split)13:30
thebananafishllutz: I was considering that, would that come back together easily on a windows host? I need my backups to be universal13:31
saju_mError when trying to access $ squidclient -p3128 -h 192.168.1.5 -u proxy    http://dpaste.com/879043/13:32
ActionParsnipsaju_m: have you asked in the squid channel?13:32
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llutzthebananafish: i would think so, copy /b foo* out.archive13:32
thebananafishhmm ok thanks gys13:34
thebananafish*guys13:34
llutzthebananafish: "copy /b foo* out.archive /b" even13:34
LartzaWhat package is add-apt-repository command in?13:36
jrib!find add-apt-repository13:36
ubottuFile add-apt-repository found in software-properties-common13:36
ActionParsnipLartza: python-properties if memory serves13:36
ActionParsnip!find add-apt-repository13:37
ubottuFile add-apt-repository found in software-properties-common13:37
PiciActionParsnip: python-software-properties13:37
LartzaActionParsnip, python-software-properties :) Thanks13:37
Lartza-common installs useless stuff :P13:38
ActionParsnipgotcha13:38
ActionParsnipLartza: isn't it already installed?13:38
LartzaActionParsnip, Nope, VPS13:39
ActionParsnipLartza: ahh i see13:40
nearsthi ppl13:42
jribLartza: it depends on your ubuntu version which package you want to install13:42
averangealli want to join ubuntu13:46
jribaverangeall: in what way?13:46
nearstwelcome to ubuntu13:46
philinuxaverangeall: you are in. have u a problem?13:47
OerHeksaverangeall, register on launchpad, sign the CoC, join the groups of your interest, and you are in business.13:48
averangeallopen source development13:48
averangeallor bug fixing13:48
nearstyeah.. or bugs hunter :P13:49
ActionParsnipaverangeall: find a project and offer your services13:49
averangealli subscribed the mailing list13:49
ActionParsnipaverangeall: or you can trawl the bug lists on launchpad and suggest fixes etc13:50
averangeallbut i didn't see anyone fixing bugs13:50
averangealli believe there are still quite a lot of bugs in ubuntu13:50
meetcan i change the lock screen in gnome 3.6. at present it is the same as my wallpaper.13:51
averangeallActionParsnip: what kind of projects13:52
nearstpolipo or squid .. hmm13:52
midnightaverangeall: what bug want to fix?13:52
ActionParsnipaverangeall: there are bugs in all OSes13:52
midnightfor example?13:52
ActionParsnipaverangeall: any package you like or want to help13:52
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averangeallActionParsnip: thank you but i have more interest in fixing ubuntu itself13:54
averangeallmidnight: when i press "super + w"13:54
nearstwhat super + w do ?13:55
OerHeksaverangeall, maybe start with bug 113:55
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113:55
nearstepic bug 113:55
averangeallmidnight: the windows in current workspace should be arranged13:55
ActionParsnipaverangeall: ubuntu itself isn't a package per se, if you want to code. If you want to fight general issues then join in at answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu :)13:55
averangeallmidnight: but sometimes it will mess up13:55
averangeallmidnight: i had to press "super + w" one or two more times13:56
ActionParsnipaverangeall: you can set a hot corner for it, very Mac OS / KDE stylee13:57
nearstit has been long time im not use kde browser :)13:57
averangeallubottu: bug 1 is cool lol13:57
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113:57
ActionParsnipbug 1 is a joke imho13:58
ehluHey i went from xubuntu to ubuntu, when i start my computer it complains about graphics and nothing happends13:58
ActionParsnipehlu: what video chip do you use?13:58
ehluIt says low graphic something13:59
ehluActionParsnip: intel i think13:59
ehlulaptop13:59
ActionParsnipehlu: if you press ctrl+alt+T do you get a terminal?13:59
nearstehlu, try with "nomodeset" at boot grub13:59
ehluActionParsnip: yes im in the terminal now14:00
mila_Hi14:00
ehlui could choose loogin console mode14:00
ActionParsnipehlu: run:  sudo lshw -C display14:00
averangeallActionParsnip: thank you for tell me answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu14:00
mila_Ubuntu is for mobile only?14:00
averangeallActionParsnip: i will check it out14:00
RathekaCan the wubi installer completely clear an existing drive instead of splitting it?14:01
ehluActionParsnip: how do i copy it and paste?14:01
ehluterminal tricks isnt my best :P14:01
averangeallActionParsnip: but what do you mean by setting a hot corner14:01
Tex_Nickmila_ : no ... mobile, server, desktop, tablet and now phone :)14:02
nearstcant wait for phone14:02
BluesKaj!wubi | Ratheka14:02
ubottuRatheka: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please  file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe14:02
ActionParsnipaverangeall: its a setting in ccsm, instead of keys, you can set a corner so that when the mouse enters the corner it activates the feature14:02
mila_Thank you  Tex_Nick14:02
ActionParsnipehlu: you can just summerise it14:02
Tex_Nickmila_ : np :)14:03
ehluit was ati mobile controller14:03
ehluradeon hd14:03
ehludriver=radeon14:03
averangeallActionParsnip: just like what mac do?14:03
Rathekasupport page not found, and it's not exactly troubleshooting as config i'd think?14:03
BluesKajRatheka, wubiwon't clear any data off a drive or partition , it only exists as a file within windows14:05
nearstive some question, wubi allow me to boot linux and chroot fs ? ive no usb drive for boot my lost mbr14:05
ActionParsnipehlu: which ati chip?14:05
Rathekaok, so i need a boot disk or usb stick   ehhh, should be fun to find14:05
ActionParsnipaverangeall: sure14:05
ehlu4200 seriers14:05
ehluActionParsnip: ..14:05
ActionParsnipehlu: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue14:05
averangeallActionParsnip: thank you for telling me this trick :)14:06
ehluUbuntu 12.10 \n \l14:06
ActionParsnipehlu: the xorg version in quantal hates your gpu14:06
ActionParsnipehlu: there is a PPA to fix it some14:06
lee8oiCrazy that KDE is running faster than Unity. Is all that Python stuff getting heavy or something?14:06
ehluActionParsnip: but it worked with xubuntu?14:07
ehlui did a terminal command i found on psyhostats something ubuntu site, pure ubuntu from xubuntu14:07
averangeallActionParsnip: i will check answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu14:07
ActionParsnipehlu: xubuntu doesn't use compoziting for the desktop14:07
ehluActionParsnip: i did14:07
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ActionParsnipehlu: it worked with xubuntu?14:07
ehluActionParsnip: yes14:08
ActionParsnipehlu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/209876/upgraded-ubuntu-from-12-04-to-12-10-ati-radeon-hd-3450-catastrophe14:08
averangeallActionParsnip: but what's different between it and askubuntu.com?14:08
ehluActionParsnip: i cant go there only have my laptop that doesnt have graphic14:08
ActionParsnipaverangeall: location as far as I know, both are fine and both are used by ubuntu users.14:08
ActionParsnipehlu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install fglrx-legacy14:09
averangeallActionParsnip: thank you, you are so very kind!14:10
averangeallActionParsnip: i am from Taiwan14:10
ehluActionParsnip: thank you14:10
nearsteww14:10
averangeallActionParsnip: i will visit here everyday!14:11
Theodorehello14:12
Theodorehow do i overwrite a lightdm.conf file?14:12
circleWhat's a lightweight photo editing application I can use to do very basic things like create lines and shapes, add text to images and past screenshots in to?14:12
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Theodoreif file permissions denys me access?14:13
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Tex_Nickcircle : have you looked at libreOfficeDraw14:16
ehluActionParsnip: then?14:16
circleTex_Nick, seems a bit complex14:16
makerbreakrhi, I have an intel hd2500 graphics card, with hdmi/dvi output, how do i stop the screens from mirroring?14:17
makerbreakrI cant get them to work seperately, and I have messed with the xorg/xrandr etc14:17
Tex_Nickcircle : i would really suggest you learn gimp ... it looks complicated, but the basics are pretty easy to learn ... as you learn more, you're options are practilly unlimited :-)14:20
cfhowlettTex_Nick, too late, he's gone ...14:21
Tex_Nickcfhowlett : just saw that ... guess i was talkint to myself :)14:22
Klojummakerbreakr: Doesnt the "Displays" option from the menu bar respond at all?14:24
makerbreakrIm using fluxbox14:24
ehluActionParsnip: now when i boot it says stoping mount file system on boot14:25
makerbreakrIm trying to get everyting working from the command line/no interaction, so I can write some scripts to set it up automatically for a bunch of machines14:25
jcamfieldMorning all.14:25
makerbreakrbut nothing i try, whether its custom xorgs, or xrandr will not mirror14:25
Creedhello folks14:26
ArcaneWaterHello, can someone please help me with my problem at ubuntu i have dual boot and at ubuntu 12.10 my wifi is not working i have Lenovo G780 laptop.14:26
ehluwhen i boot it says stopping mount filesystems on boot14:27
ehluwhy? :O14:27
Gr3kL0V3R:D14:27
Creedi don't know if I can ask here and if not, if you know the right channel... I've been banned from a undernet channel14:27
midnightArcaneWater: what kind of wifi adapter do you have?14:27
cfhowlettArcaneWater, surprising.  lenovo usually works out of the box.14:27
Creedthe have banned my proxies ips as well14:27
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ArcaneWatermidnight cfhowlett i have Network Card Broadcom 802.11n and Qualcomm Atheros AR8162/8166/8168 PCI-E14:28
llutzCreed: and your question is?14:29
DJonesCreed: As long as its an Ubuntu support question, thats fine in this channel, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic14:29
midnightArcaneWater: did you try with the non open source driver?14:29
EaglemanWhich package contained incrontab ?14:29
cfhowlettArcaneWater, has your wifi ever worked with ubuntu?14:29
llutz!info incron14:29
ubottuincron (source: incron): cron-like daemon which handles filesystem events. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.10-1 (quantal), package size 96 kB, installed size 282 kB14:29
llutzEagleman: ^^14:30
icerootEagleman: apt-file search incrontab14:30
icerootincron: /usr/bin/incrontab14:30
ArcaneWatercfhowlett yes it was working before i formated ^^ BUt somehow not realy ok, at windows i have full signal at ubuntu i had 1 or 2 signal only,14:30
isthakurHi everyone I m new on IRC I want to set up thinclient server that can boot windows over tftp can anyone suggest me is it possible14:30
cfhowlettisthakur, ltsp14:31
cfhowlett!ltsp14:31
ubottuLTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project14:31
Eaglemanthanks14:31
cfhowlettArcaneWater, so you had a previous version of ubuntu then?14:31
jcamfieldCan anyone help me?  I'm wrestling with a synaptics touchpad that I can't get Ubuntu (12.10/64bit) to "see" - tpconfig recognizes it, but synclient complains there is no driver loaded.  I've pulled in /usr/share/X11/*-synaptics into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooted, to no avail.14:31
isthakurI tried to use ltsp but could not configure is successfully14:32
isthakurI was using ubuntu14:32
ArcaneWatercfhowlett i had 12.10 same one as i have now installed but it was working last time :D BUt this time is not working.14:32
isthakur12.0414:32
ArcaneWatercfhowlett brb i am going to try this right now http://askubuntu.com/questions/205582/how-do-i-get-an-atheros-ar8162-working14:33
cfhowlettisthakur, OK.  Possible side issue, but do you REALLY need 12.10?  12.04 is LTS so is supported for 5 years.  12.10 is not.  Unless you really need the latest shiny stuff ...14:33
cfhowlettisthakur, err ,sorry.  that should have gone to arcanewater ...14:33
cfhowlettisthakur, what you've described sounds like ltsp.  might I suggest that you'll find full tutorials in the forums and wiki's.  Also see #ubuntu-server14:34
isthakurthanks cfhowlett14:35
cfhowlettisthakur, best of luck14:35
Kentarouhi guys, i have setup a samba shared printer but when i try to view printing preferences the windows explorer got crashed, i'm using x64 both the server and the client. Any Idea?14:37
isthakurthanks once again . switched to #ubuntu-server14:37
jribEagleman: is incrontab related to your earlier permission question?14:39
jcamfieldAnyone for my synaptics problem?  The internets have led me in a circle so far.  A pointer to a next step would be greatly appreciated14:40
jrib!helpme | jcamfield14:40
ubottujcamfield: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude14:40
jiridoHi. is there some program to make an installer from a installed copy of ubuntu with all manually installed programs so one can use virtual box to install everything in beforehand before installing to disk?14:40
jribjcamfield: i.e. please just repeat your question because most of us have no idea what your question is14:40
jrib!uck | jirido14:41
ubottujirido: uck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/14:41
jribjirido: maybe that?14:41
jiridojrib, yes maybe that!14:41
jcamfieldSorry, didn't intend to channel-flood; I'm wrestling with a synaptics touchpad that I can't get Ubuntu (12.10/64bit) to "see" - tpconfig recognizes it, synclient complains there is no driver loaded; System->Mouse and Touchpad doesn't have a tab for touchpad (because there's no driver).  I've pulled in /usr/share/X11/*-synaptics into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooted, to no avail.  Where should I be looking to get the system to rec14:42
jiridoubottu, thanx i gonna look!14:42
ubottujirido: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:42
ArcaneWaterHello, i am back, no luck with the tutorial i linked  :(, what else should i try i found thath at additional drivers tab there is not additonal drivers listed.14:44
Kentarouhi guys, i have setup a samba shared printer but when i try to view printing preferences the windows explorer got crashed, i'm using x64 both the server and the client. Any Idea?14:45
EaglemanShould i use su - user  -c "fetchmail -d 60"   OR   su - user  -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 60"  in rc.local?14:45
jribEagleman: why not use an @reboot line in the user's crontab?14:46
ArcaneWaterWhat else should i use to fix thath WiFi problem?14:46
jiridojrib, Does uck work for lubuntu to?14:46
jribjirido: I don't know14:46
ActionParsnipjirido: i'd imagine it does14:46
Eaglemanjrib i guess this is easier to maintain, central location. I dont want to edit 5 crontabs in the feuture14:46
jribEagleman: use /etc/crontab then?14:47
Eaglemanjrib, this wasnt the original question14:47
jribEagleman: I know14:48
Cajun_Lan_ManHello Everyone. I'm looking to run RAID1 on a Dell desktop for cheap disk based backup. If I turn on onboard RAID on the Dell, is there any for me to monitor the RAID health in Ubuntu? Intel has software for doing it in Windows, but I was hoping to use Ubuntu for the OS. Any suggestions?14:48
vitimitisalut14:49
Eaglemanjrib, everything i ask something, i get new suggestions, i work them out, and next time i ask something that looks like the previous question, they suggest something new ( and sometimes better ). And there i am rebuilding everything14:49
jribEagleman: you should just state what you want to accomplish then :)14:49
EaglemanShould i use su - user  -c "fetchmail -d 60"   OR   su - user  -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 60"  in rc.local?14:50
jribEagleman: well, what's the difference between the two commands?14:50
skylio y a il un bon serveur ou pas ?14:51
Eaglemanjrib sometimes you have to include the location of the command to be able to use it. But i dont know if i have to do this now, i am a bit noob on bash enviroments14:51
jribEagleman: it depends on whether /usr/bin is in PATH or not.  You can just play it safe and give the full path if you're not sure (that's what I would do).  But like I said, I suggest just using crontab instead14:52
Kentarouhi guys, i have setup a samba shared printer but when i try to view printing preferences the windows explorer got crashed, i'm using x64 both the server and the client. Any Idea?14:52
ActionParsnipKentarou: ask in #samba too14:54
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Eaglemanjrib @reboot added to my todo list, it was getting emtpy anyway :)14:57
bibi23on a cronjob, what is the current working directory?15:00
warrior_hi15:00
jribEagleman: heh15:00
warrior_i have problem15:01
Eagleman!ask15:01
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:01
jribbibi23: my guess is HOME.  I would have to check the man page.  I wouldn't rely on it; I would just use full paths15:01
warrior_my laptop lenovo g460 bluetooth not appear15:02
TorbenBetaI would like to install Steam. But I get the following error message: "Dependency is not satisfiable: libjpeg-turbo815:02
TorbenBeta"15:02
TorbenBetaI am using Ubuntu 12.1015:02
testjtjtTorbenBeta: sudo apt-get install libjpeg-turbo815:02
warrior_any one can help me?15:02
warrior_please pm me15:03
TorbenBetatestjtjt, Package cannot be found.15:03
bibi23jrib: ok, yes that's about full paths, I do a cd to the current directory for all my scripts that are also run as cronjobs, but I was wondering if I could set an option so that the cwd is set to the directory containing the cron script?15:03
testjtjtTorbenBeta: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install libjpeg-turbo8 ?15:04
warrior_#kuching15:05
escottbibi23, thats why you always put the full path in your crontab15:05
TorbenBetatestjtjt, Package cannot be found.15:06
TorbenBetastill15:06
warrior_hii.15:06
warrior_my laptop lenovo g460 bluetooth not appear15:06
warrior_my laptop lenovo g460 bluetooth not appear15:06
Eaglemanbibi23, have a look at PATH=15:06
testjtjtTorbenBeta can you paste somewhere your /etc/apt/sources.list15:07
jsmonkey_If Im buying a domain from lets say godaddy. Is it easy to "bind/hook up" it to a ubuntu computer so that I can use that domain instead of the ip15:08
jsmonkey_?15:08
TorbenBetatestjtjt, into the main chat or private message?15:08
testjtjtTorbenBeta: better private :)15:08
bibi23Eagleman: what should I do with he PATH? it's where I register all my directories having scripts that can be run from anywhere15:08
warrior_my laptop lenovo g460 bluetooth not appear15:08
k1l_!nopaste | TorbenBeta15:08
k1l_!paste | TorbenBeta15:09
warrior_what should i do15:09
ubottuTorbenBeta: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:09
warrior_what should i do15:09
warrior_my laptop lenovo g460 bluetooth not appear15:09
FloodBot1warrior_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:09
k1l_!patience | warrior_15:09
ubottuwarrior_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:09
TorbenBetak1l_ thanks for the reminder.15:10
jiridojrib, ActionParsnip I did not find a wiki so i wonder if it is so that one boot into the live cd and install software and modify settings and so on and they become persistant and also install if one choose to install permanent from the installer on the live cd?15:10
TorbenBetatestjtjt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1537859/15:10
navetzhello i need some help with my nvida drivers. I just installed ubuntu and have a gforce 560m graphics card. I did my software updates then switched to nvidia propritiary drivers but the display broke15:11
navetzis it possible that the nvidia drivers don't work with the new kernel I upgraded to?15:11
BluesKajnavetz, how did you upgrade to the new kernel , and which kernel ?15:12
bibi23There is something I don't understand about cronjobs and PATH, I have added a dir to $PATH in my  /home/user/.bashrc file, scripts inside are accessible from anywhere, but when I run a cronjob it says it cannot find them, do you know why?15:12
testjtjtTorbenBeta: that is very strange ... try downloading it and installing it from here15:12
navetzBluesKaj: I did it through the software centre. I don't know what one, I would assume whatever the newest one in the ubuntu repos is15:13
testjtjtTorbenBeta:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libjpeg-turbo8 ( install it with sudo dpkg -i <PACKAGE_NAME>15:13
jsmonkey_can anyone recommend a software to fix so that my dynamic ip is mapped to a domain?15:13
navetzBluesKaj: is there a way I can find out which kernel I'm on?15:13
TraumatizerI probably don´t know the awnser to your question navetz. But I think it´d help if you tell us what driver you are using. You can find this out by using the lspci command.15:13
testjtjtjsmonkey_: http://no-ip.org15:13
navetzTraumatizer: I was using nvidia-current. I'll check lspci15:13
crankharderI increased the disk size of a VM, restarted it, but now I need to "resize the partitions and LVM structure within it normally" -- I guess that's done from within ubuntu.  how do I do that?  ubuntu-server 12.04 here15:13
BluesKajnavetz, uname -a15:14
navetzBluesKaj: Linux navetz 3.5.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 11 18:51:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:14
testjtjtTorbenBeta: Ohhh are you sure that you run 12.10 and not 11.1015:15
jsmonkey_testjtjt: thanks, is it free?15:15
navetzTraumatizer: I'm not sure what i'm looking for in lspci15:15
testjtjtjsmonkey_: as long as you click a link and enter capcha every month yes15:16
BluesKajnavetz, fine ,doiung updates and upgrades is the method to use . describe your graphics issue15:16
testjtjtTorbenBeta: you run an old version of ubuntu please upgrade and apt-get the file15:17
CrovesHello folks! I'm trying to install vsftpd in my Ubuntu Server 12.10, but when I try to connect it with FileZilla the error message appears: Could not connect to server15:17
CrovesI've made the same configurations that I always did when installing vsftpd15:17
TorbenBetatestjtjt, damnit I wanted to type 11.10. :0D15:17
TorbenBetaEmbarrising15:17
TorbenBetaEmbarrassing sorry.15:17
testjtjtTorbenBeta .... and I sit here wondering how is it not there :D15:17
jsmonkey_testjtjt: I can live with that, thanks for the tip15:18
testjtjtTorbenBeta: really just upg to the latest LTS for example and apt-get it15:18
Cajun_Lan_ManHello Everyone. I'm looking to run RAID1 on a Dell desktop for cheap disk based backup. If I turn on onboard RAID on the Dell, is there any for me to monitor the RAID health in Ubuntu? Intel has software for doing it in Windows, but I was hoping to use Ubuntu for the OS. Any suggestions?15:18
testjtjtTorbenBeta: you could try to install it on the old ubuntu, but there will be problems15:18
navetzBluesKaj: I switched to the nvidia drivers, then when I rebooted the login screen was in low resolution. I typed in my password and only got a background of ubuntu and nothing else. When I typed things I could see them show up in a box on the bottom right but I couldn't do anything else. I went back to open source drivers but I would like to get 3d acceleration working15:18
TorbenBetatestjtjt, nah, I will stay with 11.10 as long as I can.15:19
Sailok so i fresh install ubuntu12.10 after installing i install gnome-panel now my question how to make gnome default login?15:20
midnightnavetz: yes you should have to do sudo apt-get install linux-headers15:20
midnightfirst15:20
midnightnavetz: it happens either with amd, and with nvidia15:21
navetzmidnight: which headers do I need ot install?15:21
midnightnavetz: i use uname -a15:21
midnightto see what version need15:21
midnightand append to sudo apt-get install linux-headers15:21
navetzmidnight: Linux navetz 3.5.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 11 18:51:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:21
BluesKajnavetz, which nvidia driver ? do glxinfo | grep OpenGL , you may ahve to install mesa-utils to use that command15:22
navetzmidnight: okay i'll install those15:22
midnightjust launch apt-get install linux-headers you should have a list of valid packages15:22
jcamfieldHey all; I'm wrestling with a synaptics touchpad that I can't get Ubuntu (12.10/64bit) to "see" - tpconfig recognizes it, synclient complains there is no driver loaded; System->Mouse and Touchpad doesn't have a tab for touchpad (because there's no driver).  I've pulled in /usr/share/X11/*-synaptics into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rebooted, to no avail.  Where should I be looking to get the system to recognize my touchpad as such (it15:23
Sailok so i fresh install ubuntu12.10 after installing i install gnome-panel now my question how to make gnome default login?15:23
navetzBluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/QkhRizxJ15:23
sogeking99Hey guys, my videos are really choppy, lots of screen tearing. Flash videos seem okay but videos like MP4 and AVI on HDD do it.15:23
navetzBluesKaj: I had to revert from nvidia back to nouveau because I couldn't get a graphical interface15:24
sogeking99This is with VLC and totem, less noticeable on VLC but still a pain.15:24
arnabhow do I change my primary monitor? I'm going to system settings-> display, but I can't say how I can do this there :o15:24
midnightnavetz: use a terminal with Ctrl-ALT F115:24
navetzmidnight: I did that to revert to nouveau15:25
navetzmidnight: i'm installing 21-generic right now15:26
navetzmidnight: why do I need to install these headers? I thought I already had them15:26
midnightand after install the nvidia driver again15:26
TraumatizerHow can ubuntu be so small. The iso is only 753 Mb, the one for windows 7 is like 1.5gb15:26
navetzmidnight: okay15:26
midnighteither amd and nvidia recompile the kernel module15:26
navetzmidnight: okay headers are installed, now i'll install nvidia15:27
midnightyes15:27
midnightand the reboot15:27
midnight*then15:27
navetzmidnight: should I do nvidia-current, nvidia-current-updates, nvidia-experminteal-310, nvidia-experminteal-304?15:28
BluesKajnavetz, nvidia-current15:29
sogeking99Anyone able to help me?15:30
navetzBluesKaj: thanks :) here it goes15:30
navetzBluesKaj: do you know why I had to install the headers for generic? I thought that was part of the kernel15:31
jsmonkey_anyone know of a free service for hooking up a already bought domain to my dynamic ip? I was recommended no-ip but it does not seem to be free if the domain is not from them15:31
llutzjsmonkey_: get a free dyndns-account, create a cname record for your domain pointing to that dyndns-domain.15:33
jsmonkey_llutz: I am completly new when it comes to these terms (I am "just" a developer). What is cname and will that solution work if I already have purchased a domain elsewhere and just want to map my dynamic ip to it?15:34
navetzNvidia drivers working!!!!15:34
navetzthanks a lot for the help guys15:35
navetzif there is a software update for new linux headers, should I not update because they might break nvidia?15:35
ikonianavetz: they are only used at compile time15:35
llutzjsmonkey_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNAME_record  and yes it will work in most cases. it fails with MX-records etc. but you don't want those with dyn-ip15:35
navetzikonia: oh okay15:36
navetzikonia: thanks15:36
jsmonkey_llutz: what is mx-records? any good resource that I can read to get a insight in cname, mx-records, dns etc?15:36
jsmonkey_not a book tho :P15:36
makerbreakrwhy would xranr, be seeing 2 hdmi's when I have 1 hdmi, and 1 dvi?15:36
jsmonkey_llutz: thanks15:36
makerbreakrI cant get ubuntu to not mirror the screens w/ fluxbox15:36
sogeking99Hey guys, my videos are really choppy, lots of screen tearing. Flash videos seem okay but videos like MP4 and AVI on HDD do it. This is with VLC and totem, less noticeable on VLC but still a pain.15:36
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jsmonkey_sogeking99: I don't actually run ubuntu for a desktop user anymore but I had the exact same problem 2 years ago when I was. Video in linux is pretty poor if you don't have hardware with good drivers I guess.15:37
jsmonkey_sogeking99: xbmc worked better for me if that is an option15:38
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sogeking99jsmonkey_, Yeah I have a really good system if that opens anymore options15:38
Xetiusjsmonkey_, you could try wikipedia for link info on MX records http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mx_record15:40
jhutchinsjsmonkey_: The DNS and BIND book is available on-line, and you can read the DNS howto at http://tldp.org15:40
llutzjsmonkey_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System     register a free-dyndns host, lets say "myhost.zapto.org" at no-ip.com, then you create a new entry in the dns-settings of your own domain "www.yourdomain.com  cname myhost.zapto.org"   and with this, your computer will be reachable as "www.yourdomain.com" from internet. this might work with web-access/ssh etc. but not with email15:41
Cajun_Lan_ManHello Everyone. I'm looking to run RAID1 on a Dell desktop for cheap disk based backup. If I turn on onboard RAID on the Dell, is there any for me to monitor the RAID health in Ubuntu? Intel has software for doing it in Windows, but I was hoping to use Ubuntu for the OS. Any suggestions?15:41
midnightnavetz: use nvidia-current15:41
jsmonkey_llutz: thanks! I will use it for some web services, ssh for files etc, no email required so it's fine. thanks for the expliatnion15:43
jsmonkey_really appriciate15:43
jsmonkey_thanks Xetius jhutchins15:43
EaglemanWhy keeps apache saying this in the logs? File does not exist: /var/www/website/HTTP/html  ?15:44
Tex_NickEagleman : if you don't get an answer here ... you might try #httpd15:45
MonkeyDustEagleman  or in #ubuntu-server15:46
makerbreakrwhy would my xserver disregard xorg.conf?15:52
fretyhi15:53
midnightfrety: hi15:53
irontrex33315:53
irontrexits lonely here15:54
makerbreakris there anyhting I have to force to get it to read xorg.conf?15:55
frety|LIST15:55
MonkeyDustfrety  noet here15:55
MonkeyDustfrety  not here15:55
fretyOK15:55
fretySORRY15:55
irontrex#ubuntu-phone15:56
ehluIs it possible to "remove" the unity dock, i want to use docky instead15:56
BluesKajirontrex, only lonely if you don't have question or any answers15:56
MonkeyDustehlu  sudo apt-get install cairo (or cairo-dock), logout, select cairo, login15:57
escott!fakeraid | Cajun_Lan_Man16:01
ubottuCajun_Lan_Man: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto16:01
escottCajun_Lan_Man, use mdadm16:01
skribblezatchawhats up peoples. i was wondering if i could ask a question concerning wine?16:02
usr13skribblezatcha: yes16:02
skribblezatchacool usr..thanks..16:03
skribblezatchai just installed wine in mint14 KDE..and was wondering if i just download and install the windows program that i want to run..or is there a process about doing so that i need to know about?16:04
MonkeyDust!mint16:04
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:04
usr13skribblezatcha: Just install the windows programs16:04
skribblezatchaok thanks usr..will do.16:05
OerHeksskribblezatcha, as usr13 says, and you might want to check the wineHQ database for tips16:05
skribblezatchaif it messes things up i wll just do a fresh install of mint and start over again.16:05
circleWho here uses Unity?16:05
skribblezatchaok cool..thanks OerHeks.16:05
usr13skribblezatcha: But what do you need? (Most all of the windows programs will just be a redundancy.)16:05
skribblezatchaits yazak chat client to be exact.16:06
k1l_circle: we dont do surveys here16:06
usr13skribblezatcha: We have several. (I use irssi.)16:06
skribblezatchai accidentally wiped out windows..lol so i am used to chatting with a few yahoo heads in a room there..16:06
usr13skribblezatcha: IRC?16:07
skribblezatchawell i am on pidgin..which is what i prefer usr13..even on windows i used pidgin..so i am good. although pidgin cant go into the yazserv rooms.16:07
BluesKajyahoo heads ? ...strange16:07
skribblezatchano..its anothr protocol..16:07
usr13skribblezatcha: Not IRC?16:08
skribblezatchanot really BluesKaj..if you are me its home.;)16:08
skribblezatchano..its not IRC usr13..16:08
usr13skribblezatcha: Not Yahoo IM?16:08
usr13skribblezatcha: Ok, well I don't know what it is.  Sorry, my comments are irrelevant16:08
skribblezatchano..its a yahoo chat client. the writer of the client started his own server where we created rooms as yahoo refugees once yahoo chatrooms closed down.16:08
skribblezatchaso if i can get it to run in linux mint..it would be cool..16:09
k1l_skribblezatcha: like mentioned before. for mint ask the mint support16:09
skribblezatchathats the point..forget the protocol. its a windows app that i would like to get to run using wine. if i need to pull wine up..or direct the installation to wine or something i need to know that.16:10
skribblezatchasee what i mean?16:10
Cajun_Lan_Manescott: Thanks for the links.16:10
skribblezatchaor do i simply install..wine being a platform that has installed the necessary dlls for me to run a windows program natively?16:10
escottCajun_Lan_Man, avoid at all costs that intel raid junk16:11
k1l_!mint | skribblezatcha ask the mint guys16:11
ubottuskribblezatcha ask the mint guys: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org16:11
skribblezatchathats what i am wondering..if wine is kinda like a VM type of thing..or has installed iteself within the OS to allow me to run a windows app.16:11
MonkeyDustskribblezatcha  wine is a layer16:12
usr13skribblezatcha: Are you sure pigin won't do it?16:12
skribblezatchathere is no such channel ubottu..16:12
escottskribblezatcha, it translate win32 API calls to POSIX calls. Wine Is Not an Emulator16:12
skribblezatchaok..cool. so i should simply install yazak and see if it runs then. good deal. if i have issues i will reinstall mint and start over again. thanks all.;)16:13
usr13skribblezatcha: Noone sait there was, ( a ubottu channel ).16:13
k1l_skribblezatcha: read the message again. its another network, not freenode. if you have problems to connect get in touch with their support forums or other things mentioned on their side16:13
skribblezatchadope sense of humor there usr13.16:13
usr13skribblezatcha: Why would you re0install mint?16:13
usr13ok16:14
dalsgaardHello guys. I want to remove the "alt+RMB" drags window function, but when I do it in dconf-editor, it's like it inverted the key. So all of a sudden I have to hold down ALT to click regularly16:14
skribblezatchato eliminate wine if it doesnt help me out usr13.16:14
dalsgaardAnyone had that oddball issue?16:14
skribblezatchano need for it in the pc if it wont help me out.16:14
dalsgaardemulator16:15
skribblezatchamint is actually ubuntu based..although i guess that i heard they have a debian version..hence me showing up here thinking that heads could help me out. its cool though..16:15
skribblezatchai am used to getting the run around.16:15
dalsgaardYou guys need a bot to trigger when you write the word "Emulator" :P16:15
soeeare there any tool that might help to calibrate monitor ?16:16
enapupeHi There, I'm looking for a way to output a local video to /dev/video0 (webcam), any ways?16:16
OerHeksenapupe, output a video to a webcam ?16:17
usr13enapupe: Depends on what video card you have.  If it's Nvidia, you prolly have a GUI for it.  If not you may need to just use xrandr.16:17
enapupeI mean, output some AVI video I have here, onto /dev/video016:17
usr13enapupe: What?  Can you elaborate on that just a bit?16:18
OerHeksenapupe, so you want to watch a video om your webcam /dev/video0 ?16:18
k1l_i think he wants to stream something16:18
enapupeI don't have a webcam, I want to have a fake output to work with html5 getusermedia16:18
k1l_i dont think a webcam can output something16:18
enapupewithout having a webcam, I just need some fake output16:19
enapupeon windows I used this 'fake webcam' software16:19
enapupeon which I select a video to play 'on' the webcam output16:19
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rasha666what is the best program for screen capture16:20
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k1l_!away > zz_cornfeed16:20
ubottuzz_cornfeed, please see my private message16:20
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cornfeedubottu: k1l_:  i know i am sorry, i am cleaning up my freenode configs, and ungrouping this old horrible scheme16:21
ubottucornfeed: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:21
MonkeyDustenapupe  http://sourceforge.net/projects/webcamstudio/16:21
OerHeksenapupe, this is an commandline solution, http://askubuntu.com/questions/139239/fake-a-webcam-using-a-video-loopback-device16:21
OerHekswebcamstudio could do simular too16:22
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rasha666thanks i'll check both16:22
enapupeOerHeks: perfect!16:22
enapupeOerHeks: I was trying something with gst-launch before without success.. Now it's working fine16:23
enapupethanks a lot16:23
OerHeksenapupe, have fun16:23
rasha666is anyone interested for some programming for Linux. Don't have idea, just have la pasion :)16:24
Cajun_Lan_Manescott: Problems with the Intel RAID stuff? I'm just looking to mirror two drives, and have crashplan backup data to them.  Any other suggestions for RAID1?16:25
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escottCajun_Lan_Man, its not real raid. just use mdadm16:26
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Cajun_Lan_Manescott: mdadm is what you're recommending me use instead?16:26
Cajun_Lan_Manescott: time to google, because I dont know what that is. But I'll definately look into it.16:26
escottCajun_Lan_Man, yes16:26
escottCajun_Lan_Man, mdadm is the pure software implementation16:27
rasha666<rasha666> is anyone interested for some programming for Linux. Don't have idea, just have la pasion :)16:27
Tex_Nickrasha666 : try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##c++ ... this is an ubuntu support channel16:27
Cajun_Lan_Manescott: can mdadm inform me via email or some other method of a drive failure?16:27
escottCajun_Lan_Man, yes16:28
escottCajun_Lan_Man, you should also make sure that smartmon-tools is installed16:28
rasha666Tex_Nick, tnx16:29
ehluI cant start rhythmbox16:29
ehluNothing happends16:29
ehluJust installed ubuntu16:29
Cajun_Lan_Manescott: Thanks for the great info.16:29
sogeking99How do I get that thing for Nautilus where you right click a folder and can open it in terminal?16:29
phoenixsamprashelp, how to get more information from a package, before installing it ? using APT16:29
MonkeyDustsogeking99  nautilus-scripts package16:29
TheLordOfTimephoenixsampras, apt-cache show [package]16:30
TheLordOfTimephoenixsampras, that'll give you cursory information, what are you specifically looking for in terms of information about a package?16:30
sogeking99MonkeyDust, the nautilus scripts manager?16:31
MonkeyDustsogeking99  that's the correct name16:32
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phoenixsamprasTheLordOfTime: Thank you!!16:32
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TheLordOfTimephoenixsampras, you're welcome.16:33
sogeking99Okay thanks MonkeyDust16:33
TuxmascotI keep getting this error in terminal:16:35
TuxmascotFailed file save: .//resume.dat.new16:35
TuxmascotUnable to save the resume file. Another program might have the file open, or the disk is full.16:35
TuxmascotHow can I get rid of it?16:35
sogeking99MonkeyDust, I have the manager open but I don't see a way to add th eopen in terminal option?16:35
j`eyis there a way to install newer packages on an older system?16:36
j`eyI need a newer gdb than 10.04 has16:36
escottj`ey, then upgrade your OS16:36
TheLordOfTimej`ey, upgrade to 12.04?16:36
TheLordOfTime(which is an LTS)16:36
MonkeyDustsogeking99  looking, moment...16:36
j`eywithout upgrading16:37
escottj`ey, compile it yourslef16:37
MonkeyDustsogeking99  my mistake, apologies, it's nautilus-open-terminal16:37
j`eyescott: ok16:38
sogeking99Okay thanks again16:38
TheLordOfTimej`ey, install build deps and compile yourself.16:38
TheLordOfTimej`ey, but i think gdb requires newer versions of build-deps, so it may not work16:38
jakepianohey i'm back again with another problem. when i tried dualbooting ubuntu and windows and letting it do its thing, i found that a lot of the drivers for windows were missing and i had no way to install it. for instance, the network driver was gone and i had no way to connect to the internet in any way.16:38
TheLordOfTimej`ey, and if that's the case, you're stuck at needing to upgrade your OS (probably to 12.04)16:39
TheLordOfTime(since the rdeps may break other things.16:39
j`ey04 or 10 is LTS?16:39
TheLordOfTime)16:39
TheLordOfTimej`ey, 12.04 is LTS16:39
j`eyok16:39
TheLordOfTimejust like 10.04 is LTS16:39
shade34321how do I check to see what file started a process?16:39
MonkeyDustjakepiano  better ask in ##windows16:39
j`eymaybe Ill look into upgrading16:39
j`eywas just wondering if there was a quick fix for now16:39
goudkovhi guys. i just installed 12.04, copied my ttf windows fonts into ~/.fonts and ran fc-cache, but firefox still seems to be using the default fonts. is there some place else i need to look at?16:40
escottshade34321, pstree?16:40
jakepianooh oop you're right. wrong question. my question for #ubuntu is how to partition half of my 500 gb hard drive for it manually. is it ext2 or ext4 and linux swap and how big?16:40
TheLordOfTimej`ey, your first step is to try and compile it from source.16:40
TheLordOfTimej`ey, but if it FTBFS (Fails to build from source), then you may have to upgrade.16:41
MonkeyDust!partitions > jakepiano read this to get an idea16:41
ubottujakepiano, please see my private message16:41
jakepianoubottu yes i did16:41
ubottujakepiano: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:41
MonkeyDustjakepiano  I have 15GB for / and the rest for /home    swap is about my ram size + a bit extra16:43
ehluHow do i restore all the default home folders?16:43
MonkeyDustjakepiano  (telling you as example)16:43
ehluLike pictures etc.16:43
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usr13ehlu: What do you mean restore?  Did you delete them?16:44
jakepianoMonkeyDust, so if i were to dual boot with windows, what should the sizes and types for these partions be? For example, i'm thinking of just starting with half my hard drive, 250/250. with that, what other partitions does the ubuntu part need?16:44
usr13elky: mkdir Pictures ?16:45
usr13ehlu: mkdir Pictures Documents etc..?16:46
MonkeyDustjakepiano  sounds similar to what i have, i suggest you do the same16:46
ehluwith correct emblems etc16:46
usr13ehlu: What are correct emblems?16:47
jakepianoyes, but what else does ubuntu need? i've tried to install with just an ext2 partition but it didn't work, it says i need to add more. what are those partitions?16:47
usr13ehlu: They are just directories16:47
MonkeyDustjakepiano  ext4 is the most common16:47
funktHi there really small problem I keep getting my hidden files showing all the time even after I untick show hidden files it always seems to keep showing them in 12.04 anyone have any ideas?16:48
usr13ehlu: Just open a terminal and do:  mkdir Pictures Documents Music Videos16:48
usr13ehlu: That's it....16:49
jakepianoMonkeyDust, does that partition need anything else?16:49
shade34321escott, sorry for the late reply...thanks16:49
MonkeyDustjakepiano  like what?16:49
jakepianolike a linux swap or something?16:50
MonkeyDustjakepiano  yes, swap too16:50
usr13jakepiano: Yes, create a swap partition too.16:50
usr13jakepiano: Are you asking for recommendations?16:51
jakepianoalright, what are the specifics on that?16:51
usr13jakepiano: 8G for swap, 30G for /   the rest for /home16:51
usr13jakepiano: something like that ^^16:52
tom22rhello16:52
jakepianousr13, recommendation for, say, a 100g partition?16:52
Axio`Hi, I want to do: "cat file  | grep blabla". Problem. It says: "grep : commande introuvable" (translation: can't find the command)16:52
usr13jakepiano: 8G for swap, 30G for /   the rest for /home16:52
tom22rin windows 8 with the metro gui I can write apps with javascript, is this possible with a linux gui (unity, gnome etc.) ?16:53
jribAxio`: where are you doing this?16:53
Axio`jrib: terminal16:53
jribAxio`: pastebin the output of « env »16:53
MonkeyDusttom22r  start here http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/16:54
jakepianoalright thanks16:54
Axio`jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538094/16:54
Axio`jrib: It is weird, I have just done: env | pastebinit. It worked. I want to pastebinit something else, but it says command not found16:54
usr13jakepiano: You can just do swap and /  if you want.   8g swap, rest for /  (but I recoommend /home/ too.)16:55
tom22r@MonkeyDust thanks16:55
jribAxio`: yes, that's weird.  What happens when you run « /bin/grep » ?16:56
tom22rbut is the answer to my question yes or no?16:56
Axio`jrib: Usage: /bin/grep [OPTION]... MOTIF [FICHIER]... Pour en savoir davantage, faites: « /bin/grep --help ».16:56
jribAxio`: run « hash -r » and then try your grep command again.  If it errors again, pastebin your command and full output16:57
Axio`jrib: I run hash -r, still the same with cat file | grep blabla: grep command not found16:59
Axio`jrib: I don't have any output to pastebin16:59
vagtasticI got this script that works well from shell. Is there something I can do to make the terminal close while not closing the program?16:59
MonkeyDusttom22r  ask in #ubuntu-app-devel16:59
jribAxio`: but you are pasting (presumably paraphrased things) her.  I'm asking you to pastebin the actual command you ran and the actual output (in full)16:59
jribvagtastic: you can... do one of the following: 1) command & disown    2) nohup command    3) screen or tmux17:00
Axio`jrib: cat /home/xavier/.xbmc/temp/xbmc.log | pastebinit17:00
Axio` pastebinit : commande introuvable17:00
vagtasticOh yeah its in BASH, awk with some sed .17:00
jribAxio`: let's stick to grep17:01
jribfor now17:01
vagtasticjrib so you think I should mux the term ? Can I still run the script as su even if I disown it?17:01
jribvagtastic: sure.  I don't know exactly what you mean by "run the script as su"17:02
Axio`jrib: cat file | grep blabla17:02
Axio` grep : commande introuvable17:02
jribAxio`: now with "/bin/grep" instead of "grep"17:02
tom22rMonkeyDust: ok17:03
Axio`jrib: cat file | /bin/grep blabla17:03
Axio`bash:  /bin/grep: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type17:03
Axio`No file or no folder of that type (quick translation)17:03
vagtasticjrib I am running debian but sure I can install sudo. No big deal. Done now. So you mean sudo ./myscript.sh -p udp & disown ?17:03
jribvagtastic: sure.  Though if you use tmux or screen, then you can reconnect to the process later17:04
vagtasticjrib sry this vm was indeed Ubuntu and I have sudo installed. I am on the wheel too17:04
jribvagtastic: uh, what version of ubuntu?  wheel hasn't been used in a long time...17:05
vagtasticjrib OK I use tmux for things like irssi and weechat to split my terms up.17:05
jribAxio`: what happens when you do: « grep blabla file »17:05
vagtasticjrib I take it I am on the wheel since I can use super user cmds.17:06
Axio`jrib: grep blabla file17:06
Axio`blabla blabla17:06
vagtasticjrib its 12.04 headless17:06
CiraThis may be the wrong place to ask, but does anyone know where I could get decent free linux shell? Shellmix isn't working nowadays for some reason...17:06
vagtasticjrib but 90 % of the them I am in Squeeze. GNU/Linux all the same thing. Just some have blobs and GUIs.17:07
jribvagtastic: ok, maybe you have a nostalgic sysadmin17:07
vagtasticjrib that would be me =) Yes I even have a root user account.17:07
jribAxio`: you're doing all these things in the same exact terminal, right?17:08
michealPWIs there a way to manually instruct Ubuntu One clients to sync?17:08
Axio`jrib: yes17:08
jrib!ot | Cira17:08
ubottuCira: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:08
Cirasorrz17:08
michealPWI open up my UbuntuOne for Mac client and it says it's all sync'd, but it's not.. The work I just put in my /Ubuntu One directory is not yet pushed to the server.17:08
vagtasticSo there is no root user in Ubuntu? I mean under /root ?17:09
jribvagtastic: there is a root user, the account is just locked by default17:09
jrib!root17:09
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:09
jribAxio`: cat file | LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C grep blabla17:09
Axio`jrib: I just tried with sudo su, "cat file | grep blabla" works fine17:10
vagtasticjrib but what if you do not have the program sudo installed?17:10
vagtasticI just installed it17:10
jribAxio`: ok, but « sudo -i » is recommended over « sudo su »17:10
Axio`jrib: cat file | LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C grep blabla17:10
Axio`blabla blabla17:10
jribAxio`: this is outside of sudo su?17:10
Axio`jrib: last one is the output without sudo17:10
jribvagtastic: ubuntu comes with sudo and gives sudo access to the first user setup during install17:10
jribAxio`: and when you get rid of "LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C", you get an error?17:11
vagtastic@,@ wow GNU/Linux has come a long way since 95 !17:11
Axio`jrib: huh it works now, without it17:11
jribAxio`: this is strange...17:11
Axio`jrib: nope, I don't know what happened, it worked only once17:12
jribAxio`: so what happens now with the language stuff in there?17:13
Axio`jrib: There is something REALLY weird: xavier@desktop:~$ cat file | grep blabla17:13
Axio`blabla blabla17:13
Axio`xavier@desktop:~$ cat file | grep blabla17:13
Axio` grep : commande introuvable17:13
michealPWIs there a channel for Ubuntu One?17:13
vagtasticNormally I remove old kernels like this "   sudo apt-get remove $(dpkg -l|egrep '^ii  linux-(im|he)'|awk '{print $2}'|grep -v `uname -r`)   "17:13
jribAxio`: do other users have access to this system?17:13
vagtasticIs there a Ubuntu way of doing this?17:13
Axio`First grep of that log was done by deleting the language stuff from your the previous command I entered, second grep was done by re-writting everything17:13
jribvagtastic: maybe with the gui, but not that I know of in the shell17:14
Axio`jrib: Only me, I have ssh access on it also17:14
jribAxio`: haha maybe what you write is not "grep" but some other letters that look like grep17:14
vagtasticjrib good to know. I am in a Xen based Debian slice what in this case has a slice with Ubuntu on it. All though ssh into a headless server. So yeah I am in a terminal.17:15
Axio`jrib: that's awful17:16
sardiorBeen having a problem with nautilus. When I cut then paste a bunch of files it will copy a few and then hang.17:17
jribAxio`: try deleting space before the 'g' as a test.  So try typing: cat file |grep blabla17:17
keko-Hello. I need some help and i dont know how to solve this problem. So here is what i did: gedit ~ /. xprofile  After this export UNITY_LOW_GFX_MODE = 117:18
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Axio`jrib: It works, but now everything is working (grep, pastebinit...)17:18
Axio`With and without space17:18
sardiorI installed dolphin and it seems to work fine.17:18
Axio`I don't understand at all17:18
jribAxio`: even when I copied your command here with that space, it gave me command not found17:19
keko-I loged out of my user profile and now i cant login... the password aint leting me in.17:19
Axio`jrib: Problem seems to be solved, I don't know how17:19
jribAxio`: you are producing weird spaces somehow :x17:19
Axio`Axio`: I don't know, but now it is all fine17:21
keko-jrib Axio` or anyone else who is maybe here. I need some help and i dont know how to solve this problem. So here is what i did: gedit ~ /. xprofile  After this export UNITY_LOW_GFX_MODE = 117:21
keko-I loged out of my user profile and now i cant login... the password aint leting me in.17:21
Axio`jrib: From the moment I typed this "cat file |grep blabla", I wasn't able to reproduce the problem anymore17:21
sardiorlooks like splits and lags. Should I repost my question?17:21
keko-also i cant open the gedit ~/.xprofile17:22
Axio`jrib: thanks btw!17:22
Shortstraw8I'm new to this. I installed lamp according to (http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/11/how-to-install-lamp-in-ubuntu-1110.html) but when I enter the sudo vi /var/www/info.php and restart I get a 404 error. Any ideas17:22
jribAxio`: here try copy and pasting this: cat file | grep blabla17:22
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Axio`jrib: cat file | grep blabla17:23
Axio` grep : commande introuvable17:23
jribAxio`: see :)17:23
Axio`I don't get it17:23
jribAxio`: that space before the 'g' is not a regular space17:23
sardiorI'll try later...17:24
Axio`jrib: So I probably copy pasted a command with a weird space which caused the problem?17:24
Axio`jrib: And to solve it I have to not put a space after "|", right?17:24
jribAxio`: ah if you copy and pasted it from somewhere else, that would explain it.  I thought maybe you had a weird setup on your keyboard17:24
Axio`jrib: That's a bit weird that just copy pasting it one time, breaks all the next commands that wouldn't be copy pasted, no?17:26
jribAxio`: yes.  Here you can see there is a difference if you do this: echo " X " | hexdump17:27
Axio`jrib: I see17:28
drahtihow can i ask becaus xserver problems?17:28
Axio`jrib: I was too optimistic the problem isn't gone: cat file | grep blabla (I typed everything manually)17:29
Axio` grep : commande introuvable17:29
Axio`xavier@desktop:~$ cat file |grep blabla (I removed the space)17:29
Axio`blabla blabla17:29
Axio`xavier@desktop:~$ cat file | grep blabla (I added manually a space)17:29
Axio`blabla blabla17:29
FloodBot1Axio`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:29
jribAxio`: do you have deadkeys or something like that in your keyboard layout?17:29
Axio`jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538190/17:30
Shortstraw8I'm new to this. I installed lamp according to (http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/11/how-to-install-lamp-in-ubuntu-1110.html) but when I enter the sudo vi /var/www/info.php and restart I get a 404 error. Any ideas17:30
Axio`jrib: I don't think so, how do I check?17:31
Grandpa_smashyAnyone have any success dual booting win8 and ubuntu?17:32
jribAxio`: so your keyboard generates http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/a0/index.htm apparently17:32
jribAxio`: hmm, in system settings go to keyboard settings and then layout options17:32
kunji1Grandpa_smashy: yes, I am17:33
Axio`jrib: My layout is called: "Français (variante obsolète)" Maybe I should try one that isn't obsolete17:33
Grandpa_smashyDid you use wubi?17:33
jribAxio`: worth a try17:33
kunji1Grandpa_smashy: nope, not at all17:33
jribAxio`: very familiar title here but haven't read through: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3693628?start=15&tstart=017:33
Grandpa_smashyGot any good walkthurs u know of... im terrible with grub17:34
jribAxio`: what terminal do you use?17:34
threex5Hi, I tried moving /home to its own partition and now i'm getting all kinds of permisisons errors and nothing will load. Could someone help me understand what I did wrong?17:35
Grandpa_smashyTerminator i like for terminal17:35
jribthreex5: how did you move the files?  And what are the permissions of the files in /home now?17:35
Axio`jrib: it seems to work with the non-obsolete version17:35
nep1xhi buddies. Is there any way for the path you are in does not appear in the terminal. When the path is long is quite annoying...17:35
kunji1Grandpa_smashy: The process I use is usually to first set up my partitions with Gparted the way I want them for the whole setup, then I install windows, then I install Ubuntu, and GRUB finds everything very nicely automatically.  If you do the opposite, Ubuntu, then Windows 8, then Windows will overwrite the MBR with it's own bootloader and you need to go the the hassle of reinstalling GRUB using a livecd or the like.17:36
jribAxio`: ok17:36
nep1xthanks17:36
threex5jrib, I moved them from parted magic live disk17:36
SierraARI have a 64 bit Intel CPU, and VirtualBox gives me an option to DL an AMD64 or i386 version; not sure which one I should install17:36
threex5I can't open the file manager to get file permissions now17:36
threex5but I can ssh in from another computer17:36
jribthreex5: ok17:36
kunji1Grandpa_smashy: This assumes of course that you have the option of starting with a blank disc, otherwise you might have to go the other way17:36
threex5however, permissions look unfamiliar from here17:37
Grandpa_smashyK thx ima give it a shot lol.. always a pain with windows17:37
threex5if i ssh into that machine and go to my new /home directory17:37
Axio`jrib: thanks a lot17:37
threex5there's a user folder in there and it says the owner is '1000'17:37
threex5who can create and delete files17:38
threex5the group is also '1000'17:38
threex5and can only access files17:38
kunji1Grandpa_smashy: googling should turn up quite a few good guide, the Win 7 ones are perfectly applicable to Win 8, even for things like making a USB to boot WIn 8.17:38
threex5these permissions are the same in my old home directory17:38
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threex5that makes me think that permissions look different from remote ssh17:38
threex5I don't know17:38
threex5I could also check from command line17:38
threex5on that computer17:38
usr13threex5: ls -l /home/threex5 | pastebinit  #Let's have a look.17:38
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usr13threex5: Don't use enter for punctuation, please.17:39
threex5ok17:39
cubwhat does #let's have a look. do17:40
usr13cub: Lets us have a look.17:40
cubok17:41
usr13cub: (He will send us a URL017:41
jribcub: it's just a comment17:41
cubok ty17:41
usr13cub: I should have said, ( #Send resulting URL and well look and see.)17:42
usr13*we'll17:42
iterthreex5: if you want to overwrite/repair permissions you can cd to /home and do 'sudo chown -R threexusername:threexusername *'17:43
threex5ok let me try that first17:43
iterthreex5: do it in your homedir17:43
iterthreex5: and of course you want that threexusername to be whatever user you need17:43
threex5i'm having a hard time getting my ls output from the terminal on one computer over to the other so i can put it in pastebin17:43
threex5right17:43
usr13threex5: The other computer is not connected to the internet?17:44
jribthreex5: you really want to be careful where you run that command.17:44
micheleafter installing ubuntu, how do I recall this screen? http://i.stack.imgur.com/Nu44s.jpg17:44
iterrighto, that command can break things if you run it in the wrong dir17:44
ActionParsnipiter: may want to specify a path, removes possibility for error17:44
cubuser82,  i just thought it would automatically send it to this channel window heh17:44
usr13jrib: Yea, it would be better to use full path:  sudo chown -R /home/threex5/17:45
iterActionParsnip: good idea17:45
threex5shoot, i already ran it in /home17:45
iterthreex5: do you have other user dirs in there?17:45
threex5n17:45
threex5no17:45
usr13threex5: ooops.  not good.17:45
iteryou're good then17:45
threex5ok one person says good, one says 'not good'17:46
iterit's not good if you have multiple user dirs in home17:46
iterit's not a problem if there is only one user dir17:46
threex5ok. well i'll log out and back in and we'll see what happens17:46
usr13threex5: right.17:46
usr13iter: That was for you.  Right.17:47
iterfor i in `ls`; do chown -R $i:$i $i; done17:48
iterthat would repair your home dir perms for multiple users17:48
iterI suppose that needs a sudo in there17:49
jribiter: you're making a few assumptions there :)  Also, don't parse ls17:49
threex5alright17:49
iterhow would you do it jrib17:49
iterfind exec?17:49
threex5we're in business. Thank you so much. sorry for all the line breaks. i'll try to be better about it in the future.17:50
iterglad to hear you're fixed threex17:50
jribiter: well for not parsing ls, you should just do: for i in *; do blah; done17:50
jribiter: here's a good explanation about it: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs17:50
iterhm interesting17:50
iterthanks17:51
iteroic, xargs then17:51
Shortstraw8I'm new to this. I installed lamp according to (http://www.linuxcandy.com/2011/11/how-to-install-lamp-in-ubuntu-1110.html) but when I enter the sudo vi /var/www/info.php and restart I get a 404 error. Any ideas17:52
usr13Shortstraw8: For what URL?17:54
makerbreakrwhat is the package name for display preferences?17:55
makerbreakror what package is it found in?17:55
usr13Shortstraw8: For loclahost/info.php ?17:56
Shortstraw8usr13, localhost/info.php17:56
usr13Shortstraw8:  pastebinit  /var/www/info.php17:56
Shortstraw8usr13, I have the feeling that apache2 is not working right but can't find anything17:57
usr13Shortstraw8: Did you do  sudo service apache2 restart  ?17:57
usr13Shortstraw8: What does firefox localhost  tell you?17:58
iterShortstraw8: ls -l /var/www | pastebinit  && cat /var/www/info.php | pastebinit17:58
Shortstraw8usr13, Server error17:59
Shortstraw8The website encountered an error while retrieving http://localhost/info.php. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.17:59
Shortstraw8Here are some suggestions:17:59
Shortstraw8Reload this webpage later.17:59
Shortstraw8HTTP Error 500 (Internal Server Error): An unexpected condition was encountered while the server was attempting to fulfill the request.17:59
FloodBot1Shortstraw8: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:59
usr13Shortstraw8: lynx -dump /var/www/index.html18:00
Shortstraw8usr13, yes I did a restart18:00
usr13Shortstraw8: lynx -dump /var/www/index.html | pastebinit18:00
yuri__testing18:00
giteshHow to install Localhost?18:01
usr13Shortstraw8:  pastebinit  /var/www/info.php  #Send resulting URL18:01
giteshI am on ubuntu 12.04 LTS18:01
anathemahi guys I have succesfully dual booted windows 8 and 12.10 64 and in my grub there are many entries18:01
usr13gitesh: YOu dont.  (It's already there.)18:01
anathemaone of them is Windows 8 loader that it reports some UEFI fails18:02
whoevergitesh: localhost is already there, what do you mean18:02
giteshlampp server18:02
anathemaI bootrepaired and I succesfully booted in to windows 8 with windows 8 uefi loader, Is there any way to clear GRUB Entries?18:02
giteshusr13: php, mysql18:02
whoevergitesh: localhost is already there , and you can't install localhost18:03
whoevergitesh: brower http://localhost , with server running18:03
giteshFirefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost.18:04
giteshI am on desktop edition18:04
Shortstraw8usr13, sorry I was installing pastebinit18:04
usr13gitesh: sudo apt-get install mysql-server18:04
anathemahow to remove some invalid windows 8 entries from my grub menu?18:05
usr13Shortstraw8:  pastebinit  /var/www/info.php  #Send resulting URL, or tell us if it gives error of some sort.18:05
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whoevergitesh: service lamp restart18:06
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giteshdo you people use lampp ?18:09
littlebearzgitesh: lnmp18:09
iterwhat's the second p18:09
billybob000hi.. i'm running 12.04 server, and i have unusually slow pings18:09
giteshfrom xampp18:09
billybob000when using a dns name18:09
billybob000if i ping the ip directly, it works just fine18:09
iternslookup hostname billybob00018:09
anathemaanyone to help me with grub and uefi entries?18:09
usr13billybob000: what nameserver(s) are you using?18:09
iteralso cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebinit18:09
littlebearzbillybob000: blame u're dns server18:10
Shortstraw8usr13, bash: /var/www/info.php: Permission denied18:10
littlebearzbillybob000:  www.ebay.com/itm/12098820717118:10
littlebearzbillybob000: ops, use 8.8.8.818:10
littlebearz www.ebay.com/itm/12098820717118:10
littlebearzsry18:10
littlebearzmy right click auto paste18:10
usr13Shortstraw8: cat /var/www/info.php   #What do you see there?  Anything?18:10
usr13Shortstraw8:  pastebinit  /var/www/info.php  #Send resulting URL.  Show us.18:11
whoevergitesh: this is ubuntu channel not really lamp channel, although offtopic, i have given you suggestions18:11
giteshok.18:11
Shortstraw8usr13,  <?php18:11
Shortstraw8phpinfo();18:11
Shortstraw8sorry18:12
billybob000yeah, weird..18:12
billybob000i came across this article  http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-dns-resolution.html18:12
iterShortstraw8: ls -l /var/www | pastebinit && cat /var/www/info.php | pastebinit18:12
iterbillybob000: cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebinit18:12
usr13Shortstraw8: Open a terminal, type [or paste]:  pastebinit /var/www/info.php  #And send us resulting URL. Or, tell us what error you get.18:12
rypervencheiter: You're a cat grepper, aren't you?18:13
iterhahah18:13
iternon-gnu grep18:13
kunji1whoever: I'm pretty sure it's on topic so long as the LAMP stack is being run on Ubuntu, didn't catch if he said if it was or was not though.18:13
littlebearzrypervenche: :D18:14
Kion1I ran a Netstat check on my laptop and found a listenind program called asterisk, can someone tell me what that is?18:14
tgm4883Can someone recommend an alternative to the POS remmina that ships with 12.04?18:14
iterKion1: VOIP18:14
Kion1iter: is that Skype?18:14
littlebearzKion1: that's used for PBX18:15
iteryeah it's a phone server18:15
littlebearzKion1: unless you're running call office usually not required18:15
Kion1littlebearz: interesting since I have not started skype today!18:15
iterit's not skype18:15
Kion1littlebearz: I will kill it18:15
Kion1iter: I am wondering what launched it?18:16
usr13tgm4883: Sorry, I don't know anything about remmina18:16
iterprobably init :p18:16
iterapt-get remove --purge asterisk*18:16
littlebearzKion1: it's actually a service program rather than client program18:16
Shortstraw8usr13, when I enter pastebinit /var/www/info.php I do not get an error it send me to pastebinit18:17
Kion1littlebearz: Ok got it, so it is not a security threat?18:17
rypervencheShortstraw8: It should give you a link that you should then give to use.18:17
rypervencheus*18:17
Shortstraw8usr13,  sorry i get ya. http://paste.ubuntu.com/18:18
banchI have ubuntu and as I made an account for my friend. trouble is can I make apache work for his home directory or do I have to give him acces to /var/www/username18:18
littlebearzKion1: nope18:18
littlebearzbanch: add his user to www-data group18:18
banchsudo adduser username:www-data ?18:19
littlebearzbanch: useradd -G www-data username18:19
banchhow come if he has account already and setup znc and all. do I need to make it all over again18:19
littlebearzuse usermod18:19
llutzstop18:20
jribbanch: you probably don't want to do that... You could just enable userdir and then he could put his website it ~/public_html and it would be available at domain/~username18:20
llutzuseradd -aG www-data username18:20
banchhmm18:20
littlebearzbanch: usermod -a -G www-data username18:20
caddooAny know a good piece of open source cross platform contacts manager? Got someone who is used to the old contact manager Sidekick and need an upgrade.18:20
jribbanch: I disagree that you should make a user part of the www-data group18:20
llutzlittlebearz:  littlebearz> banch: useradd -G www-data username  <- will remove "username" from all other groups, you don't want that18:20
banchso usermod is the way to go18:20
llutzbanch: sudo adduser username www-data18:21
littlebearzllutz: i forgot secondary adding user18:21
littlebearzllutz: the -a means secondary group18:21
iterbanch: why not just enable public_html18:21
jribbanch: www-data is what your web server runs as.  So you should use www-data ownership to indicate "this file is something my web server should read/write to".  That usually is not going to be the same as "this file is something username1 should be able to read/write to"18:22
llutzlittlebearz: and that is why people should use adduser, there is no such "dangerous option" you might miss18:22
banchiter I did not know how to do it and yet i dont know exactly :)18:22
Shortstraw8rypervenche, usr13  I posted what message I got when I entered ls -l /var/www18:22
iterbanch: http://www.techytalk.info/enable-userdir-apache-module-ubuntu-debian-based-linux-distributions/18:22
littlebearzllutz: adduser is restricted to new user though18:22
llutzlittlebearz: its not18:23
littlebearzllutz: oh? i'll look it up18:23
littlebearzno manual entry for adduser :(18:23
llutzlittlebearz: man adduser /called with two non-option arguments/18:23
jriblittlebearz: you're likely not on ubuntu then :)18:24
littlebearzops, thehe, i'm on arch or debian18:24
llutzlittlebearz: debian has "man adduser" too18:24
usr13Shortstraw8: Open a terminal, type [or paste]:  pastebinit /var/www/info.php  #And send us resulting URL. Or, tell us what error you get.18:25
littlebearzllutz: k, got it thanks, I always thought all distro have same manual page18:25
usr13Shortstraw8: See my PM18:26
rypervenchelittlebearz: For Arch, I don't think it will have adduser, but useradd18:26
tgm4883usr13, it's an RDP client18:26
pcsouscc18:26
littlebearzrypervenche: yup, that's what I told the person earlier18:26
usr13tgm4883: you are looking for a Remote Desktop Client?18:27
tgm4883usr13, yes18:27
tgm4883one that actually works18:27
usr13tgm4883: Like tightvnc ?18:27
usr13tgm4883: There are several that work.18:27
tgm4883usr13, does tightvnc use the RDP protocol?18:28
littlebearztgm4883: use rdesktop18:28
usr13tgm4883: I sometimes use tightvnc and x11vnc for server.  Yes there is rdesktop18:28
Shortstraw8usr13,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/18:28
littlebearzShortstraw8: where's the URI that follows it?18:28
tgm4883littlebearz, usr13 rdesktop doens't seem to work well if you're managing more than 10 servers18:29
tgm4883since it doesn't seem to remember much about anything it's previously connected to18:29
littlebearztgm4883: um. concurrently? i think there's a frontend to rdesktop18:29
kickingvegasfwiw, I use Remmina which I believe is the Ubuntu default18:29
tgm4883kickingvegas, yes, remmina is a POS18:29
littlebearztgm4883: now i remember, remmina is the frontend18:30
Shortstraw8http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538321/18:30
kickingvegastgm4883: ymmv. I18:30
kickingvegasI18:30
Shortstraw8littlebearz, usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538321/18:30
kickingvegasI've had good results with remmina18:30
usr13Shortstraw8: Open a terminal, type [or paste]:  pastebinit /var/www/info.php  #And send us resulting URL. Or, tell us what error you get.18:30
usr13Shortstraw8: See my PM18:31
tgm4883kickingvegas, the issue I have with remmina, is that it will freeze sometimes when connecting to a VM, and that kills the entire program18:32
tgm4883s/VM/server/18:33
tgm4883so if you connect to multiple servers, you now have to reconnect to all of them18:33
tgm4883which is pretty annoying18:33
usr13tgm4883: Have you tried to figure out why it freezes?18:34
tgm4883usr13, does remmina produce any logs?18:35
Ankur_Agarwali have update kernel to 3.8  but /usr/include is not updated so how can i update that18:36
Shortstraw8usr13, Hey thank my brother is available he can deal with my noobie-self Thank you though and the rest.18:36
ActionParsnipAnkur_Agarwal: we can't support 3rd party kernels here18:36
ActionParsnipAnkur_Agarwal: try #linux18:36
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escottAnkur_Agarwal, check the targets in the makefile. probably a HEADERS target18:38
Ankur_Agarwalactually i download it from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ so is it 3rd party karnel18:38
usr13Shortstraw8: That's ok.  Good luck.18:39
ActionParsnipAnkur_Agarwal: yes, its not from the official repo18:39
Ankur_Agarwalescott i used debian packages from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline18:39
kslaterto anyone that wished me well going into my surgery last week, thanks. I made it through just fine and am home and trying to get back to normal strength.18:39
usr13Shortstraw8: I think all you need to do is retrace your steps and see what you did wrong.18:40
usr13kslater: Great!  Good to hear you are ok.18:40
john_ramboI want to extract audio form a mp4 video file & then convert it to mp3. Which tools should I use ?18:41
usr13john_rambo: ffmpeg18:41
elvinzjohn_rambo, maybe something like avidemux18:41
llutzjohn_rambo: ffmpeg -i foo.mp4 -ab 192k sound.mp318:42
usr13john_rambo: In the passed, I've used ffmpeg and lame     ffmpeg -i input.flv out.wav ; lame input.wav out.mp3   But looks like llutz's way is a bit simplier18:43
ActionParsnipjohn_rambo: is the mp4 from a flash video online at all?18:44
john_ramboActionParsnip, Yes18:44
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ActionParsnipjohn_rambo: then I suggest you use this: http://www.video2mp3.net18:45
ActionParsnipjohn_rambo: then you don't have to bother18:45
john_rambotrying that now18:45
wlodiseI have a windows machine won't boot.  Svchost (netsvc) taking up 30 - 90% CPU usage even after all updates applied and reboot18:47
rypervenchewlodise: Windows? Have you tried rebooting it? If so, try reinstalling the operating system. Troubleshooting complete!18:48
john_rambousr13,  Thanks. It worked18:52
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anathemai can't get the laptop fn brightness keys to work with bumblebee18:53
anathemaany help please18:53
usr13john_rambo Yea, I tried llutz's method and it didn't seem to work for me.  But this works:  ffmpeg -i video.flv sound.wav && lame sound.wav sound.mp318:54
ehluI installed kubuntu-desktop how do i get rid of ubuntu?18:54
oalI've set up KVM, and created a vm with ubuntu-vm-builder. I've also set up avahi-daemon, but I still can't access the vm from the host with myhostname.local. Any ideas?18:54
llutzusr13: avconv -i foo.mp4 -acodec libmp3lame out.mp3                      works18:54
Cyber_AkumaWould I need to reboot to install drivers on a livecd? Since oviously rebooting would remove them as it would only install in ram. I want to test if any drivers I find fo rmy hardfware work before installing them for real18:56
Cyber_AkumaIf I can find any18:56
usr13llutz: I'll try...18:56
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usr13llutz: Unable to locate package avconv18:57
usr13But ffmpeg -i video.flv sound.wav && lame sound.wav sound.mp3 && rm video.flv && rm sound.wav   works ok.18:59
usr13llutz: Where does avconv come from?  (What package?)19:00
rypervencheusr13: ffmgep19:00
rypervencheffmpeg even19:00
usr13I must have older version or... I dono19:00
llutzusr13: libav-tools   ffmpeg "successor"19:00
usr13Unable to locate package libav-tools19:01
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usr13Well, that's ok.19:01
llutz!find bin/avconv19:01
ubottuFile bin/avconv found in libav-tools19:01
NuSueyah.. gpared has been resizing my hfs+ partition for at least a hour.. :X if I cancel it wil it fu.k up my hfs+ partition probably? :/19:01
midnighthello, on my ubuntu box /proc/cpuinfo writepower management: ts ttp tm 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb eff_freq_ro19:02
midnightwhat means?19:02
rypervencheNuSuey: Yep.19:02
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NuSueyrypervenche: :(19:03
usr13NuSuey: Not sure what you are doing but if you are resizing it and moving it as well, there may be a bunch of files to move.19:03
toumboHow to check from terminal If I have or not pae kernel?19:03
NuSueyrypervenche: just resizing .. but last time I did it .. it took seconds.. now its more than a hour :o19:04
rypervencheNuSuey: Depends on how much data is being moved.19:04
NuSueyusr13: that last thing was meant to be send to you19:04
grohnehi. If package foo ships /etc/rsyslog.d/foo.conf, how does foo.postinst tell rsyslog to read that config?19:04
Proshotwhat, what 1794 people, what has happend to his channel19:04
NuSueyrypervenche: not moved. just resizing .. there was some free space and i was shrinking the partition from some of the free space19:05
dangersaladProshot: is that too many or too few?19:05
Proshotit used to be around 5 or 6 hundred last time i checked dangersalad19:05
jribgrohne: /etc/rsyslog.conf probably includes files in that directory (guess)19:05
llutztoumbo: grep CONFIG_X86_PAE /boot/config-$(uname -r)19:05
Proshotthis is amazing dangersalad19:05
k1lProshot: dangersalad that topic suits better into our offtopic channel :) #ubuntu-offtopic19:06
grohnejrib: yeah. once rsyslog is started, but I need it to read those files debhelper executes /etc/init.d/foo start19:06
rypervencheNuSuey: It moved data to shrink a partition.19:06
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rypervenchemoves*19:06
Proshotyes, sorry k1l19:06
jribgrohne: ah.  Not sure.  Check some package that puts a file there I guess?19:06
grohnejrib: s/debhelper/before &/19:06
SuperLagI have an IDE app that gets launched by running a shell script. It puts an icon for that app in the launcher. I asked how to make it persist and someone said to right-click on the icon and click the option to lock it to the launcher. Did that. Now when I try to start it from the icon, it won't start. However, it still starts if I run it from the shell script. What gives?19:06
toumbollutz, Many Thanks!!!!19:06
grohnejrib: I tried postfix and ufw. both fail to do so. postfix for good reason19:06
NuSueyrypervenche: ehm, the space wasn't used..19:06
jribgrohne: you might try #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu19:07
grohnejrib: thanks19:08
rypervencheNuSuey: You don't know that. Data could be anywhere on your harddrive.19:08
usr13NuSuey: MS Windows systems are bad about fragmenting data.  It gets scattered and you need to run scandisk and defrag often, (especially before trying to move or resize partitions).19:14
kenperkinscan anyone help me trackdown why an executable script in /etc/network/if-up.d doesn't appear to run on restart of the system?19:14
NuSueyusr13: i was talking about the HFS+ filesystem.. (mac os)19:15
usr13kenperkins: pastebinit /etc/network/if-up.d  #Send resulting URL19:15
[snake]I'm having a problem with apple shake for linux19:15
[snake]it won't start up.19:16
usr13NuSuey: O, sorry19:16
kenperkinsusr13: https://gist.github.com/454989219:16
usr13kenperkins: ls -l  /etc/network/if-up.d   #What does that say?19:17
[snake]with this error: /usr/nreal/shake-v4.00.0607/bin/shkx.exe: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory19:17
kenperkinsusr13: updated https://gist.github.com/454989219:17
rypervencheNuSuey: You're best dealing with HFS+ filesystems on Mac. From my experience, Linux isn't great with them.19:18
usr13kenperkins: That's not what I asked for.19:18
kenperkins… you asked for output of "ls -l /etc/network/if-up.d"19:19
kenperkinsright?19:19
[snake]I assume I just need that library file... but how do I get it?19:19
orbitwhite[snake], that file is provided over libstdc++5 package19:19
usr13kenperkins: Oh I see, /etc/network/if-up.d  is a directory.19:19
kenperkinsbingo bango bongo :D19:19
NuSueyrypervenche: crap :/19:19
kenperkinsusr13: that seemed to be the default for precise19:19
[snake]orbitwhite, thanks. my internet seems to be buggy, so if I said anything after your response, ignore it.19:19
kenperkinsi certainly didn't make the directories19:19
orbitwhite[snake], same here lol no worries19:20
usr13kenperkins: Yea I see that now.19:20
usr13kenperkins: Well, I don't know....19:21
llutzkenperkins: what script won't start?  my guess: load-firewall.sh19:22
kenperkinsllutz: yes19:22
kenperkinsbrb scrum19:22
usr13kenperkins: Mine has:  avahi-autoipd  avahi-daemon  ntpdate  openssh-server  upstart  wpasupplicant19:22
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NuSueyrypervenche: usr13: is there a way to get any log/something from the gpated during the time it is doing this resizing? so at least I would know if it is doing stuff19:22
llutzkenperkins: rename it into load-firewall    without extension19:22
llutzkenperkins: debian "run-parts" oddity with some namespaces. it doesn't run files containing a dot in the name, though i thought they changed that some time ago...19:24
[snake]orbitwhite, now shake is complaining that it is the wrong elf class. 64 bit, I suppose it want 32?19:24
SuperLagis there any way to edit an application launcher's properties?19:24
Jobbehi19:24
usr13kenperkins: Have you tried to run your firewall script manually?19:24
orbitwhite[snake], i would be more helpful if i only knew what is shake why is it exe and such lol, ur linux instance is x64?19:25
[snake]orbitwhite, yes I am on 64bit ubuntu 12.04. They simply named it .exe though it is linux executable, but the library is 64 bit and shake wants 32 bit.... :(19:26
orbitwhite[snake], is there some x64 version of that "shake" ?19:26
[snake]I thought it was universal binary.... but maybe I got the wrong one :( let me look19:27
lwizardlI am trying to install a new GUI mate. I upgraded my 10.04 lts to 12.04 last nght. I hate the unity bs. tried to follow the guide on mates wiki and i'm getting errors19:27
lwizardlcan someone help me with this ?19:27
lwizardlhttp://pastebin.ca/230350819:27
usr13lwizardl: Have you tried xfce or lxde ?19:27
lwizardlusr13, I have tried xfce not a fan, no i have not tried lxde19:28
dangersaladlwizardl: have you tries tiling wm's?19:28
usr13lwizardl: sudo apt-get install -f19:28
lwizardlusr13, tried that same issue.19:30
orbitwhitei got mate without -f or something like that problem19:31
orbitwhitethere is something definitely wrong was done19:31
lwizardlokay just tried the lxde. if I wanted to run something that looks like windows I would just run windows19:35
atc3030are there any other binaries like rngd that can significantly boost the performance of an installation.19:36
sherlockhlwizardl:try dwm19:36
sherlockhor ratpoison or xmonad they are nothing like windows and are really cool too19:36
navetzHi guys, I just got a new laptop and I'm trying to move my /home partition from my old laptop to my new one.  How can I do this while maintaining the permissions of the file system?19:37
lwizardlwhat I would like is to install mate. but I honestly think that the upgrade to screwed something in the system.19:37
rypervencheNuSuey: Not sure. I don't use gparted. Check the man page.19:37
phunyguynavetz, cp with the -p option.   "man cp" to see19:38
NuSueyrypervenche: havent found anything :(19:38
phunyguyalso, it goes my UID and GID, not by name, so as long as the UID is the same, it should carry over19:39
usr13lwizardl: I use xfce.  Now if you don't like the way it looks, that is negotiable.19:39
navetzphunyguy: My external is ntfs will this still work? Or is there a way to copy across the network so I can go laptop to laptop ?19:39
usr13lwizardl: Are you up-to-date?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade19:40
llutznavetz: tar your old-home, put it on the external, transfer to new laptop, untar, done19:40
lwizardlusr13, did that about 15 times so far19:40
usr13lwizardl: Once is enough ;)19:40
navetzllutz: tar -xfv is the command right?19:41
lwizardlusr13, I have tried following about 15 guides for installing mate all end in failure.19:41
usr13lwizardl: What didn't you like about xfce ?19:41
navetzllutz: actually I don't think i have enough disk space to tar it19:41
lwizardlthe ui19:41
geraldhi, my dell laptop running 12.04.1 has been halting spontaneously roughly once/day for the last month or so; anyone know how I might start tracing the cause? It seems correlated to mouse/keyboard activity, so maybe some kind of interrupt problem?19:41
lwizardli will say it is about a million times better then the shitty unity19:42
phunyguy!language | lwizardl19:42
ubottulwizardl: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:42
lwizardlphunyguy, thats nice19:42
usr13lwizardl: Actually, I like xfce better than I did gnome.   "the ui"  That's pretty general.  Not sure what to make of that.  Was it the file manager, thunar?19:42
k1llwizardl: for mate support talk to the mint guys19:42
phunyguy!mate19:43
BroUnicornusr13: Hey! I used photorec to go in and try to find some files from after I deleted the partition. It found the file extensions, but all the file names were alphanumeric strings. Im assuming this means they're corrupted lol19:43
phunyguyhrmmph19:43
phunyguy!info mate19:44
ubottuPackage mate does not exist in quantal19:44
usr13BroUnicorn: I don't know.19:44
usr13BroUnicorn: "photorec"?19:44
rypervencheBroUnicorn: There is no metadata from which to retrieve the names. This in normal.19:44
rypervencheis*19:44
crackerjackzi ran this program called bleachbit idr what the option was off of the top of my head but it said something about deleting some files and then overwriting them not sure which files it overwrited but i'd like to delete those files... how do i make bleach bit delete those files? it filled my hard disk up and now i don't have any free disk space19:44
BroUnicornrypervenche: Oh.. So they could be the files?19:45
rypervencheBroUnicorn: Yep. Most likely are. How did you delete them, on what file system?19:45
BroUnicornrypervenche: I was trying to recover fl studio files (which are music creation program files). NTSF. Bootcamped windows.19:46
rypervencheBroUnicorn: Did you just delete them or how were they removed?19:46
BroUnicornSadly it found over 2000 files... And I definitely didn't have over 2000project files.19:46
BroUnicornrypervenche: I had to erase the partition using disk utility due to the partition table getting screwed up when I attempted to install ubuntu, rendering windows unbootable.19:47
rypervencheBroUnicorn: You can probably get the partition table back using testdisk.19:48
rypervencheBroUnicorn: And this would have all of your file names.19:48
MattRacHi everybody, hope I can find some help here :-)19:50
MattRacToday, I updated from 11.10 to 12.04 .  At the end of the upgrade, there is a big list of packages that are proposed for removal. But it said it can take several hours to remove.19:50
lwizardlwell i have decided that I am no longer going to be using the main ubuntu distro. this happens too often for me to continue to use this version19:50
MattRacI chosen to keep them but I'm facing some issues and I find removing these packages could help. Is there a log where I can find the list of this packages that were proposed for removal ?19:50
MattRacThansk ;-)19:51
teazelHi. On an old hard drive, I used the Windows installer to install Ubuntu. Then my hard drive died and I had everything (from the Windows partition, but not the Ubuntu one) transferred onto a new disk. I can't find the installer iso file but I still have an "Ubuntu" folder in my user folder. Is it at all possible I can install from this somehow? I don't want to re-download the iso because it's19:51
teazela huge file and I have slow Internet/bandwidth cap.19:51
k1lMattRac: you could clean the apt cache and the old packages with: " sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean"19:52
MattRack1l: I know "apt-get autoremove" don't do anything (because packages are not orphans), but running autocmean before is a very nice idea. I'll try that for sure ;-)19:52
k1lteazel: the wubi (windows installer) installs the ubuntu into a container inside the windows system. i dont know how to recover that. and honestly i would recommend to make a native install19:53
BroUnicornrypervenche: Even after erasing the partition using disk utility?19:53
rypervencheBroUnicorn: Yep.19:53
BroUnicornrypervenche: And installing ubuntu?19:53
rypervencheYep.19:53
BroUnicornBecause I now have ubuntu partitioned on my mac as well as Osx19:54
rypervencheBroUnicorn: Don't touch the disk anymore. Get a live CD and run testdisk.19:54
BroUnicornrypervenche: Would you be able to walk me through the process?19:54
rypervencheBroUnicorn: Check out some Youtube videos on how to do it, because it can be a bit confusing on how to use it.19:54
FlowRiserhey all, i'm installing ubuntu on my asus eeepc 1001ex, any tips, problems i should know before that ?19:55
BroUnicornrypervenche: I don't know enough about testdisk to use it accurately, but I now how to get testdisk open19:55
teazelk1l: I don't have a CD/USB disk to burn on to... is there another way to do it?19:55
rypervencheBroUnicorn: testdisk comes in the same package as photorec.19:55
BroUnicornFlowRiser: If it has an error installing and pops up the partition tables, don't touch anything.19:55
rypervencheBroUnicorn: I'll be right back if you need any further help.19:56
FlowRiserBroUnicorn, i won't have that problem lol, i'm using wubi19:56
BroUnicornrypervenche: Right. I have a live disk I used to run photorec. I can get back to testdisk, I just don't know what to do inside testdisk19:56
k1lteazel: netinstall?19:57
k1lbut you will need some kind of medium, iirc19:57
MattRack1l: "autoclean" did something interesting (saying "Del [package name]" a lot of time), but "autoremove" doesn't seem to use it. Any idea how to 'apply' this autoclean ?19:58
teazelk1l: eh I will probably just use Wubi. Thanks though19:58
k1lMattRac: it cleans out old packages that are still stored in the cache. its done when it went through19:59
k1lteazel: wubi causes alot of problems that dont appear on native installs. so most user recommend a nativ instal19:59
MattRack1l: But does it really purge the installed packages ?19:59
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k1lMattRac: no20:00
k1lthats what i said is autoremove for20:00
MattRack1l: But autoremove does nothing (as packages are useless, but not orphans) ;-)20:01
truerocker_redhewhats going on, first time here. whats fun to do on here?20:03
drahtitalking about ubuntu!!20:03
k1l!ot | truerocker_redhe20:03
ubottutruerocker_redhe: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:03
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truerocker_redhethank you, so question for anyone who might know the answer. i can't get my webcam to work at all, recently new to linux based systems but learn fast as hell20:05
GaryNiggtruerocker_redhe is it a USB cam?20:06
kenperkinsusr13: yes, the script exectues by hand exactly as I suspect20:06
truerocker_redheno its built in to my laptop20:06
cubhow do i make it so when ubuntu starts, it does not start X unless i want it to20:06
GaryNiggtruerocker_redhe should just work. What program are you using for video?20:07
auronandace!text | cub20:07
ubottucub: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode20:07
kenperkinsllutz: you're a genious20:08
kenperkinsI never would have figured that out20:08
kenperkinsgenius rather20:08
texla!numlock20:08
ubottuTo enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock20:08
truerocker_redhenot sure that i am using one, i'm mostly interested because i can't chat or use any video based chat online. everytime i hit the start webcam the little box asking to allow pops up but freezes then and won't allow me to do nything then my flash player crashes and it asks me to restart it then all over again20:09
FlowRiserI have a problem, i used wubi to install ubuntu 12.04; the unity-greeter shows another username, i can still log in using ctrl-alt-f1 using my own username, but i have no ideea how to turn on the gui stuff; How do i turn on the gui stuff (unity+compiz) ?20:10
nisioh20:12
truerocker_redhesomething that may be related is that i have problems installing just about anything. i didn't use this laptop for about a year and forgot the password i had put on it in that time so i looked up how to go around it and via internet directions reset or added rather another user. have had problems ever since20:13
rypervencheBroUnicorn: Check you PMs.20:14
ubuntuhi20:14
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truerocker_redhei'm seriously considering just wipe and loading all over again just don't really want to go through all the hassle. any suggestions?20:15
abyss42how do i authenticate to a site via cookie using curl?20:16
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truerocker_redheanyone?20:17
turtl3whois truerocker_redhe20:17
truerocker_redhei am lol20:18
turtl3sorry trying to do the command20:18
auronandaceturtl3: /whois20:18
turtl3yeah, i figured it out20:19
turtl3just started using irc20:19
truerocker_redhei'm lost ha20:19
panchoroblesdoes anybody know what to do with popups about system program problem been detected? on ubuntu 12.04.1 Just disables apport but not sure if the problem still exists20:20
truerocker_redheguess its hard to find answers on here?20:20
truerocker_redheis this more for people who aren't linux impaired?20:21
FlowRisertruerocker_redhe, i would answer, but i really have no ideea what exactly is your problem20:21
auronandace!password | truerocker_redhe20:21
ubottutruerocker_redhe: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords20:21
FlowRiserpanchorobles, look at the logs, might be you removed something and the system can't find it20:22
panchoroblesthank you FlowRiser... will check that20:26
truerocker_redheubottu- i'll check that out thanks, but i have already reset my password and now when i install things i run across errors like20:26
ubottutruerocker_redhe: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:26
bekkstruerocker_redhe: Most easy approach would be to just reset the user password using a livecd.20:27
PiciIt sounds like the password was already reset....20:27
truerocker_redhecorrect i have already reset it and amcurrently using it just i get insane amount of error messages when installing anything20:28
Picitruerocker_redhe: We can't help unless we know what errors you are getting. Can you put them on a pastebin?20:29
truerocker_redhewhats a pastebin?20:29
Pici!pastebin20:29
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:29
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truerocker_redheok i just installed a random thing to get the error messages through ubuntu software center and copied the error messages but it won't let me paste them anywhere20:34
truerocker_redhenot even on the pastebin20:34
truerocker_redhescrew this lol, is there anyway to do a reset or wipeand load online like the is with windows? possibly partitiion my system or something?20:36
tDaHello, I'm planning to build a new desktop with an SSD as /. I've never used an SSD on Linux before - are there any precautions I must take, with regard to file system, swap space settings, etc?20:39
tDa(Swap space should, strictly speaking, be unnecessary - it's going to have 32GB of RAM)20:39
bekksWhen planning to use suspend2disk, you have to have 32gb of swap as well.20:40
tDaJono Bacon?20:40
wbinvdtDa: ehehe on windows 7 with 32gb of ram window created 32gb of swap file !20:40
bekkstDa: Who is "Jono Bacon"?20:40
tDaI need no suspend2disk - it's a desktop. I'm content with boot up / shut down.20:41
tDaWell, I seem to recall him being a member of a Linux podcast20:41
tDaLUG Radio I think it was... many years ago.20:41
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tDaThat's why, when I saw "jono" join, I instantly got that association20:41
disharmonicIsn't he a Ubuntu dev as well?20:41
bekkstDa: Then you dont need swap basically - unless the Out-Of-Memory-Killer knocks at your door when using all of your 32GB RAM.20:42
tDaMay well be. If I remember correctly, he has some kind of community manager type role20:42
monodHi everyone, I have that frustrating problem with pulseaudio or whatever, please don't redirect me to the wiki page of pulseaudio because I'm just a beginner and I don't understand those wiki so well (at the moment)20:42
tDabekks - exactly. I doubt I'll need 32GB of RAM any time soon - but it's cheap, so it doesn't hurt to have20:42
Hwkillerwhat is the problem, monod20:43
monodthe problem is that while I'm listening to mp3s with vlc, I can't open any other audio application that vlc stops streaming the audio stream20:43
monodHwkiller,20:44
monod^20:44
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Krustyklimberhi again... I am having trouble with connecting hdmi to my tv20:45
Antigakushal_kumaran: o..k..20:46
Krustyklimberall I get is my desktop... no cursor, no video20:46
AntigaKrustyklimber: You say you get your desktop, but "no video," can you elaborate?20:47
wbinvdKrustyklimber: you have extended the desktop?20:47
wbinvdi mean you see the wallpaper?20:48
AntigaKrustyklimber: if you see wallpaper, you probably just extended it instead of cloned it. You'll see your cursor if you move to the left or right, depending on where the TV is oriented :P20:48
Krustyklimbermy background "wallpaper" shows up, but the open firefox window (or even this chat) doesn't show up20:48
Krustyklimberno cursor20:48
AntigaKrustyklimber: you have two screens now, not a copy of one.20:48
Krustyklimberhuh? sorry I'm not very tech savvy20:49
wbinvdKrustyklimber: try to move firefox on tv20:49
monodKrustyklimber, it seems like you have enabled the extended desktop modality20:49
AntigaKrustyklimber: Click the firefox title bar and drag it to the right on your PC20:49
wbinvdKrustyklimber: try left or right20:49
Slartmonod: do you get some kind of error message from vlc when it stops playing audio?20:49
monodSlart, absolutely not20:49
monodstops streaming audio.20:49
Slartmonod: you can try running vlc from a terminal.. possible with some kind of --verbose or --debug switch to make it a bit more talkative20:50
monodo_O20:50
monodok..20:50
Krustyklimberleft or right what?20:50
Krustyklimberall dragging the firefox logo did is move it down the list20:50
monodKrustyklimber, drag your window, out of the right or left border of the main screen20:50
wbinvdKrustyklimber: pick the fireforx window and drag to tv20:50
AntigaKrustyklimber: Instead of [PC] being projected onto TV, you have [PC] [TV]20:50
AntigaKrustyklimber: Imagine them being next to each other.20:50
Krustyklimberto tv? I don't see any tv thing on my pc20:51
AntigaKrustyklimber: Move your cursor OFF of your PC screen and ONTO the TV.20:51
wbinvdKrustyklimber: imagine that you have only 1 giant desktop span on 2 video device20:51
KrustyklimberI can't imagine that, I dunno what you mean20:51
sogeking99hey guys I am getting screen tearing on my videos on my HDD. Anyway to fix this?20:51
AntigaKrustyklimber: Oh man.20:51
wbinvdKrustyklimber: you see only wallpaper on both video devices?20:52
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Krustyklimberright now... I see this chatroom on my pc, and my desktop on the tv20:52
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AntigaKrustyklimber: Listen. Look at your PC. Look at your cursor. Move your cursor to the very rightmost part of your monitor on your PC and keep going. Your cursor should now be on the TV.20:53
espressofa_Hi y'all, it appears that "X" is totally frozen for me. I turned on noquiet and nosplash in grub and I see it starts up LightDM then starts and stops Userspace bootsplash, then it's just hanging. I SSHed in and I see that X is running. I'm not presented with my login window or anything. Just see the boot messages. Any ideas of how to debug? No errors in Xorg.0.log.20:53
Krustyklimberok way way right I get the cursor :)20:53
sogeking99Enabling Tear Free on catalyst removes the tearing, but makes th emotion funny20:54
AntigaKrustyklimber: Ok, do you understand now? You are EXTENDING your desktop, not CLONING it.20:54
AntigaKrustyklimber: You can click and drag windows OFF of your PC and move them ON to your TV.20:54
Krustyklimberok so how do I get video or this chatroom on the tv?20:54
AntigaKrustyklimber: Click and drag.20:54
stigrancazziciao20:54
monodKrustyklimber, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtzAQ1hao7U @ 10:2020:55
Krustyklimberok I dragged firefox onto tv, but it jumps back to my launcher20:55
Krustyklimberok I'll watch video, thanks20:56
sogeking99Anyone know how to fix this screen tearing issue?20:56
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Krustyklimberawesome... dragged youtube onto the tv... you guys rock as usual20:58
monodwhat?20:58
monoddid work?20:58
monoddid you see that video?20:58
Krustyklimberyep :D20:58
monodgreat :)20:58
monodextended desktop20:58
monodis what it's called20:58
Krustyklimberlearn somethin new every day :)20:58
monodanother mode20:58
Krustyklimbernow I gotta fix the resolution20:59
monodis duplicated desktop, where you see a copy of your desktop on every plugged monitor20:59
MiebsterI can I get it so unity doens't move my tool bar to the top, and more importantly, doens't hide all of the menus (file, edit, etc) under the title of the window (you mouse over and it fades to show the menus)20:59
monodKrustyklimber, the resolution you can get it fixed as usual by the screen settings, I think20:59
maakuI'm trying to do password-less full-disk encryption, but `update-initramfs -k all -u` is not including the keyscript; anyone know why that might be?21:00
monodpassword-LESS encryption? :D21:01
histoKrustyklimber: what type of video card ar eyou using?21:02
maakumonod: yes, using a key file on a USB drive21:02
maakuyank the drive, system data is secure21:02
Krustyklimberno clue21:02
Krustyklimberwhatever is in my sony vaio21:02
wbinvdKrustyklimber: open a terminal and write lspci21:03
joe9is there any way I can change the network-manager settings from the command line?21:03
joe9I do not have access to the gui, just an ssh session.21:03
wbinvdKrustyklimber: some lines may have written ati or nvidia or intel21:03
histojoe9: you can try using nm-cli21:03
histojoe9: but i'm not sure it will allow you to change settings. It may just monitor them.21:03
joe9histo: you mean nmcli?21:03
joe9it just seems to monitor them.21:04
joe9as you mentioned.21:04
joe9where does it store the settings?21:04
histojoe9: perhaps you can use some other means. What are you trying to accomplish with network manager?21:04
joe9i just want to change it from dhcp to static ip.21:05
joe9I do not want to remove the network-manager package21:05
joe9as it appears that the networking script is not in /etc/rc*.d/21:05
Krustyklimberlots of things with intel21:05
histojoe9: then configure resolvconf21:05
joe9and I would have to do update-rc.d on the /etc/init/networking, which I do not want to do.21:05
joe9let me check resolvconf21:05
wbinvdKrustyklimber: paste in private your output if u want21:06
Krustyklimberlol paste where, my what? :P21:06
wbinvdKrustyklimber: the output of lspci21:06
histojoe9: actualy nvm21:06
joe9resolvconf is just for nameservers21:06
histojoe9: I meant /etc/network/interfaces21:06
Krustyklimberyou mean everything that's in that terminal?21:07
joe9histo, yeah, but how do I start /etc/init/networking21:07
histoWhy are people so against removing network maanger21:07
wbinvdKrustyklimber: select all and then click the whell to paste21:07
joe9the service is not part of upstart/init anymore21:07
Krustyklimberwhell? I dunno that word21:07
histojoe9: ther is /etc/init.d/networking21:08
wbinvdKrustyklimber: wheel21:08
wbinvdKrustyklimber: on mouse21:08
joe9histo: but, no startup scripts for that in /etc/rc*.d/21:08
histojoe9: so sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart should work21:08
joe9doesn't that need a S..21:08
joe9or K..networking21:08
joe9does that make sense?21:08
escottmaaku, password less full disk encryption is enabled by default21:09
maakuescott: that was my experience on a previous server. however in this case (a fresh install), the initramfs image does not contain the keyscript21:09
joe9histo, I can do sudo update-rc.d networking defaults ..21:09
sogeking99hey guys I am getting screen tearing on my videos on my HDD. Anyway to fix this? Enabling Tear Free on catalyst removes the tearing, but makes the motion funny21:10
Krustyklimberok I got it copied, where do I paste it?21:10
joe9histo: but, I am not sure what the startup number should be21:10
histojoe9: you asked how to restart networking just sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart works fine21:10
maakucrypt tab has "md0crypt /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-… none luks,keyscript=/sbin/md0script"21:10
wbinvdKrustyklimber: open a private chat21:10
joe9histo, but, I want that to happen after reboot too.21:10
Krustyklimberhow?21:10
wbinvdKrustyklimber: wait21:10
histojoe9: if you edit your interfaces file and set it properly it will happen after reboot21:10
joe9histo, you are wrong, imho.21:11
histojoe9: okay21:11
joe9i think it needs to be setup somewhere. either upstart or sysvinit.21:11
histojoe9: goodluckthen21:11
escottmaaku, i was joking about your "password-less" the initramfs.conf should specify what gets included in the initramfs, but won't you need bootloader support or is your kernel outside the luks partition?21:11
EmordnysThis is going to sound like a bizzare thing, but my terminal keeps outputting Pen Island in 10.04.21:12
EmordnysAny ideas on how to get it to stop?21:12
histojoe9: man interfaces if you don't believe21:12
histojoe9: also why ask for help and not believe me.21:13
joe9histo: you are probably correct. just checked /etc/init/network-interface.conf21:13
sogeking99Does no one know how to fix this screen tearing then?21:13
espressofa_Should I care that my kernel sometimes tells me "kvm disabled by bios"?21:13
maakuescott: the boot partition is on the unencrypted usb drive21:13
joe9seems to use the /etc/networking/interfaces file.21:13
joe9histo: i do not mean to offend you.21:13
joe9histo: I was just checking where in the upstart/sysvinit the /etc/network/interfaces file is used/called.21:13
joe9histo, thanks for pointing that out.21:14
joe9histo: btw, should I disable network-manager if I am using the interfaces file?21:14
joe9echo "manual" | sudo tee /etc/init/network-manager.override21:14
InvaderChrist I have no idea how to do this. Maybe someone here might have an idea.They customer access a webpage to run commands for there devices.. In the background is dumps the full commands to a text file. Could be 10-20-400 commands. It’s not normal Linux commands it’s all proprietary commands. So my question is How can I SSH to this thing and have it run all these commands in this text file.21:15
Invader<Invader> I can SSH or telnet to this thing as access..21:15
Invader<Invader> I just have no idea how I can tell it to just Run the commands in this file.21:15
bekksjoe9: Every interface configured in the interfaces file will be ignored by network manage by default.21:15
kahtahs_sogeking99: as it's more ubuntu specific, did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installation_via_the_Ubuntu_repositories for trying out the fglrx-updates driver21:15
kahtahs_sogeking99: and there's an even newer driver here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#AMD.2BAC8-ATI_Graphics21:16
escottInvader, you run whatever proprietary commands with whatever proprietary program is required21:16
joe9bekks: oh, ok. so I do not have to bother disabling it per-se.21:17
joe9bekks, thanks.21:17
sogeking99Thanks kahtahs_ I will try that now. I tried the experimental one and it has a massive watermark21:17
cakebossIs there a health living channel on this network?21:18
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Invaderescott, They system that did this is dead. So I am left with the file that has all the commands perday that needs to get ran. You can SSH to the system to run these commands One by One if needed. I just want to know if there is a way with SSH to call a file to run these commands.21:18
kingfisher64anyone have cs6 running in wine strongly? Not individual programs but the suite like http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/design-web-premium.html21:19
SylphieInvader \ cut-paste?21:19
maakuInvader: scp file remote-host && ssh remote-host file?21:19
escottInvader, ./filename?21:19
InvaderHas to be an auto-process, and run every 5 minutes21:19
monoddoes anyone knows anything about multiple applications streaming audio? like 2 media players at the same time?21:20
kahtahs_sogeking99: that watermark is easy to remove: http://askubuntu.com/a/21673021:20
SylphieInvader \ to run something every 5 minutes, put the command in crontab21:20
sogeking99Ah, thanks again kahtahs_21:20
monodbecause I have this problem: I can't *open* two such applications that I can not hear sound anymore21:20
escottInvader, running something every 5 minutes is obnoxious, and prone to failure if runtime is greater than 5 minutes. a inotify-wait loop might be preferable21:20
makerbreakrwhy would ubuntu only detect 1 monitor?21:21
escottmonod, do you not have pulseaudio installed?21:21
makerbreakrI have an intel graphics card (sandy bridge);  I have two monitors connected via HDMI and DVI, they are both on, and mirroring the desktop21:22
monodI do not know how to install things, escott. That's hilarious, but that's true. Do all the things go into /bin? btw, how can I check if it's installed? I think so btw.21:22
escottmonod, what version/flavor of ubuntu did you install?21:22
makerbreakrwhen I click detect displays in gnome control center, they detect both displays as "samsung monitor", but onyl the display on the hdmi is samsung21:22
monodubuntu 12.04, escott (I don't know how to install/uninstall because ubuntu software center works just well, that's why)21:22
monodprecise panglin21:22
monodpangolin*21:22
InvaderIts can be 30 45 a day I dont care. I know I need to use cron thats a given. The time aside. SCP was an idea as well. But I was just woundering when I am SSH'ing to a machine if i can some how echo whats in the file to have it run the commands21:22
escottmonod, unless you changed something pulse should be installed and should be handling multiple streams21:23
InvaderSCP was my frist idea. But I wanted to keep it really simple SSH to host tell it the local file run and commands21:23
monodwell, is there a solution for resetting any thing done? escott21:23
Sylphiemakerbreakr \ is your video card designed to be fualhead, or is it just single head using dual outputs?21:23
makerbreakrsylphie, it id designed to be dual head21:24
escottmonod, does "ps aux | grep pulse" output anything21:24
makerbreakrI had it working actually up until a couple days ago, then I had to re-install, and I cant recreate how ti worked before21:24
monodhttp://pastebay.net/1174738, this, escott21:25
Mr_Cool59hear is my problem i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0421:25
Sylphiemakerbreakr \ in that case it should just be an X driver setting21:25
makerbreakrit looks like it is detecting the correct driver (intel21:26
escottInvader, i would say scp is better than looping and reading lines from the file. you don't know what the commands are so you don't know if the syntax is a line by line syntax. for all you know the commands are run from the end of the file to the beginning21:26
Sylphiemakerbreakr \ so go to the man page for your intel video and see what settings you have to work with21:27
escottmonod, pulse is running. what applications are not working together?21:27
Invaderescott, I agree its more work but oh well, Thanks!21:27
monodmixx and vlc. I'm listening to music in vlc now, but if I open mixx it stops streaming (but not playing, vlc goes forward with time)21:27
monodescot ^^21:27
joe9is there a way to switch from dhcp to static networking on a ssh connection?21:28
escottmonod, mixx is probably taking direct control over the hardware21:28
joe9histo, thanks for your help.21:28
escottmonod, its mentioned here http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/troubleshooting21:29
monodescott, damn, so I could have everything working fine, but not mixx because it's a particular situation? damn twice!21:29
monodI lost the entire evening for nothing then21:29
joe9bekks: any thoughts, please?21:30
quinn_Hey guys, trying to install Ubuntu alongside Win8 in (U)EFI mode...21:30
joe9bekks: I am wondering if there is a way to switch from dhcp to static networking on a ssh connection?21:30
blkadderjoe9: The question doesn't make a lot of sense. What is it you are trying to accomplish?21:30
escottmonod, thats a "high-end" audio processor. its expectation is that it will be the only thing making sounds21:30
manuel_hi, my ddrescue of a 1000G external HD runs for a few days now, but the last 5 G seem to take hours per MB. if i stop ddrescue now Ctrl+C, will i be able to use/mount the resulting image?21:30
monodok21:31
escottmanuel_, maybe21:31
joe9blkadder:  i am connected through an ssh connection to a remote ubuntu machine. The eth0 on that machine is dhcp, managed by network-manager. I want to switch it to static.21:31
monodseen now that link21:31
escottmanuel_, is ddrescue trying to reread sectors?21:31
Sylphiejoe9 \ it's easy to reconfig for static ip, but you'll have to shutdown the ssh connection at some point21:31
quinn_So if I free up some space by resizing down my WIn8 partition, I can install Ubuntu on the free space left over? Can/could/should I use the Win8 bootloader?21:31
joe9blkadder: as for some reason, whenever dhcpd refreshes the info, it is breaking the ssh connections.21:31
blkadderjoe9: Oh sure that is doable.21:31
escottquinn_, yes, yes, and no21:31
manuel_i guess so, i gave it -r 3 (try retry 3 times) but if the relevant data could be rescued in he image already i wont have to tripple check the rest... but i dont want to lose days of work either...21:32
vahnx2I'm looking for an active backup solution.21:32
Sylphiequinn_ \ just last night someone was doing what you're asking about and trashed their windows partition table21:32
blkadderhttp://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/21:32
vahnx2oops nevermind21:32
joe9Sylphie: I was thinking of adding this line to sudo crontab -e "sudo service network-manager stop ; sudo service networking start ; sudo service ssh restart ;"21:32
quinn_So what should I do?21:32
joe9blkadder: thanks.21:32
escottquinn_, with win8 its probably yes, no and no now that i think of it21:32
blkadderSure. Note that if you restart networking you will lose your connection.21:33
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escottjoe9, sudo should never be in cron jobs21:33
Sylphiequinn_ \ the safest thing to do is install ubuntu onto a second usb drive21:33
makerbreakrjoe9, you can just edit the interface and run /etc/init.d/networking restart21:33
joe9escott, good point.21:33
escottjoe9, on top of that there is no shell backing cron jobs so... ";" is a meaningless character21:33
quinn_And then what?21:33
monodg2g, thanks for the help21:34
monodbye!21:34
Mr_Cool59hear is my problem i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0421:34
Sylphiequinn_ \ and then you run ubuntu off that usb drive instead of off your main drive21:34
joe9escott: makerbreakr: blkadder: does this look alright: http://codepad.org/degRILzZ21:35
quinn_Hmm. Should I make an ext4 partition in gparted on the USB stick, and then install the bootloader and everything else to the USB stick?21:35
joe9escott: makerbreakr: blkadder: I did not add anything to /etc/resolv.conf though.21:35
joe9I figure the dns-nameservers will take care of that.21:35
joe9this is what dhcp is doing currently: http://codepad.org/3boiBAvM21:36
blkaddernetwork 192.168.0.021:36
quinn_Hmm. Should I make an ext4 partition in gparted on the USB stick, and then install the bootloader and everything else to the USB stick?21:36
Sylphiequinn_ \ you could do that, and it would work, but it would be better to use a mechanical usb drive than a usb stick, because all the writes to a stick would shorten it's life21:36
quinn_So a dual boot isn't possible?21:36
joe9blkadder: thanks.21:36
blkadderjoe9: And I am not certain about the dns-nameservers line... Where did you get that?21:37
joe9man reslovconf blkadder21:37
Sylphiequinn_ \ a dual boot off the same drive is possible, it's just not advisable. resizing existing partitions is risky21:37
quinn_I already resized the Win8 partition and it booted perfectly21:38
quinn_so is that the risky step over with?21:38
escottquinn_, then you are halfway there. disable secure boot, install ubuntu21:38
usr13blkadder: His router more-than-likely has caching nameserver21:38
quinn_Okay, secure boot is off. Will install Ubuntu to the free space.21:38
blkadderjoe9: Ok.... I would usually put that stuff in /etc/resolv.conf directly but it seems to be supported so it should be fine.21:38
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quinn_Do I install the bootloader to the hard drive like usual?21:39
RalliasIs there a way I can set a script to run after waking up from hibernate?21:39
escottquinn_, no21:39
Mr_Cool59ear is my problem i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0421:39
jribRallias: read the information in /usr/share/doc/pm-utils/ probably21:39
quinn_So don't install the bootloader? I have to manually do the partitions21:40
escottquinn_, grub-efi creates a folder in the "efi" partition which is a smaller FAT formated partition on the disk21:40
escottquinn_, there is no "mbr" or "pbr" for a GPT disk21:40
quinn_Okay, so just leave that dropdown box blank?21:40
usr13Mr_Cool59: What is "hd 6300"?21:40
escottquinn_, you still need to say what disk, but its not going to an mbr. it should be the disk that has the FAT formated efi partition21:40
quinn_That's my hard drive21:40
Mr_Cool59i have 2 graphacis cards form ati one is a hd 4200 series the other is hd 6300 series21:41
escottquinn_, and there is a decent chance you'll have to go in and manually fix things... all this is new so you are a bit lucky if it works out of the box21:41
quinn_it's formatted to efi according to Ubuntu21:41
quinn_So make an ext4 partition out of the free space and install ubuntu to there, right>21:42
quinn_?21:42
usr13Mr_Cool59: Are you sure you downloaded the correct file?  (What does lspci say about them. Any clues there?)21:42
quick-hi i am not able to install xvidcap from the tar.gz file .Please help21:42
escottquinn_, yes21:42
Sylphiequinn_ \ you need to make at least two partitions, one for ubuntu and one for ubuntu's swap partition21:43
quinn_it says "no root filesystem defined"21:43
Mr_Cool59from what i can tell the newer catalyst version does not include any of the legacy card drivers21:43
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joe9blkadder: now, ip addr ls gives me 2 ip addresses: http://codepad.org/SpaGOruk21:43
escottquinn_, you need to select "/" as the mountpoint for that ext4 partition21:43
joe9blkadder: anything I can do to make the secondary one the primary ip address21:43
joe9or, better yet remove the first line from "ip addr ls".21:43
quinn_I have to have a swap partition? OK21:43
Sylphiequinn_ \ a swap part isn't always mandatory if you have a huge amount of memory, but it's advisable21:44
Ben64quinn_: its not necessary, but if you don't have lots of ram you should have one21:44
escottquinn_, you dont have to, but its needed if you intend to hibernate and desirable in many instances21:44
boohI'm looking for a live solution to backup files in unbuntu server (shares folders for workstations and Maildir)21:44
quinn_I have 4gb of memory. What do i format the swap partition as?21:44
Ben64"swap"21:44
blkadderjoe9: Did you restart the network?\21:44
escott!backup | booh21:45
ubottubooh: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning21:45
k1lquinn_: do you even need a swap?21:45
Ben644GB isn't that much21:45
iwfGood Afternoon21:45
joe9blkadder: yes, sudo restart networking and sudo start networking.21:45
joe9blkadder: just to be sure.21:45
quinn_as escott and sylphie said, it's preferable to have one21:45
k1lquinn_: if you dont want to make suspend2disk or got a heavy ram consumption there is no need to have a swap with that much ram, imho21:46
blkaddersudo /etc/init.d/networking restart21:46
quinn_Is 2gb of swap enough?21:46
quick-hi , is there any alternative to xvidcap in ubuntu ?21:46
Ben64I don't know, I've maxed out my 4GB before21:46
Sylphiequinn_ \ at leastas much swap as how much ram you have21:46
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iwfI just tried to install a USB version of Ubuntu...I have a blinking cursor with boot:_21:47
k1lquinn_: if you make a swap you should make it equally to ram and add a bit21:47
quinn_So maybe a 6GB swap?21:47
joe9http://codepad.org/HPruOOZz21:47
iwfHelp!21:47
k1lquinn_: 4.1GB will do21:47
Sylphiequinn_ \ sounds good, or 8gb if you have the space21:47
joe9http://codepad.org/HPruOOZz blkadder21:47
blkadderjoe9: Thanks. Did you remove the dhcp client as well?21:48
k1lquinn_: but im still on the count on: do you really need one. but if you have alot of hdd space it doesnt matter most times21:48
quinn_Well I do use hibernated21:48
joe9http://codepad.org/Vh2HDS97 blkadder21:48
escottquinn_, then you need 4GB + however much swap you are likely to be using when you hibernate in order to hibernate21:48
joe9Virtual packages like 'dhcp-client' can't be removed blkadder21:48
lauratikadoes anyone knows how to check ink levels on a epson printer in ubuntu?21:49
blkadderjoe9: Please pastbin your /etc/network/interfaces I am a little perplexed as to where it is getting the .102 address...21:49
escottlauratika, its empty... its always empty.21:49
joe9blkadder: that was the ipaddress from the earlier dhcp-client21:49
lauratikahahahahah21:49
joe9http://codepad.org/osOXEWSi blkadder21:49
blkadderjoe9: Right but I would think that restarting the network should remove it.21:50
iwfI just tried to install a USB version of Ubuntu...I have a blinking cursor with boo21:50
blkadderBut perhaps not...21:50
lauratikaseriously another way21:50
joe9http://codepad.org/swAjGaFH blkadder21:50
Mr_Cool59hear is my problem i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0421:50
blkadderjoe9: Ah.21:50
blkadderRemoving the package should kill the service I would think but apparently not...21:50
joe9blkadder: but, the package was not removed.21:51
quinn_What do I mount the swap partition to?21:51
joe9Virtual packages like 'dhcp-client' can't be removed blkadder21:51
Sylphielauratika \ does your printer know how full it's ink is under any OS?21:51
blkadderkill 107621:51
lauratikajust in the phones whith epson "service and support" he want me to do this crap and as not having windows on my pc ... there you go21:51
iwfI just tried to install a USB version of Ubuntu...I have a blinking cursor with boot sorry for the repost any assistance would be appreciated...21:51
joe9blkadder: i killed the process, I still have 2 ip addresses.21:51
blkadderRight probably upstart...21:52
quinn_What do I mount the swap partition to?21:52
Sylphiequinn_ \ nothing, the instllaer will detect it21:53
Ben64just choose "swap" from the drop down menu21:53
escottquinn_, swapon /dev/whatever21:53
quinn_it says it wants me to choose a mount point or it won't use the partition21:53
escottquinn_, then you didnt select "swap"21:54
Bsimshow much can you update on a live usb before it breaks?21:55
nrdbcan the ubuntu setup resize a ntfs partition?21:55
Ben64nrdb: yep21:55
quinn_Okay, it's doing its thing21:55
nrdbBen64, good thanks.21:55
Sylphienrdb \ it can, but beware, it can also fail badly21:56
quinn_Now I have a Radeon HD 7290, should I use the open source or proprietary drivers?21:56
Sylphieopen source21:56
onlysonAnyone on here know if I can run backtrack 5r3 on a non-pae system?21:56
k1l!backtrack | onlyson21:57
ubottuonlyson: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)21:57
quinn_!mint21:57
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:57
onlysonThanks a lot.21:57
quinn_!mint21:57
quinn_My webcam light is on...21:58
Sylphiesomeone is watching you21:58
quinn_???21:59
Sylphiecover the lens21:59
quinn_on the IRC?21:59
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quinn_You're joking, right?21:59
Sylphiesadly, no21:59
skp1it's me21:59
quinn_How do I stop it?22:00
Sylphiecover the lens22:00
Ben64quinn_: nobody is watching22:00
Mr_Cool59ear is my problem i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0422:00
quinn_I was gonna say - I didn't think that could be done through IRC22:00
Sylphiesure webcams just turn themselves on for fun22:00
quinn_OH22:01
Ben64Mr_Cool59: does it work on 12.0422:01
quinn_it wants me to choose a picture! :D22:01
Sylphiequinn_ \ on irc everyone knows your ip address, and they can hack through to you camera knowing that22:01
Ben64Sylphie: stop22:01
escottquinn_, really useful in case you forget your name22:01
Mr_Cool59only with the legacy and then i can only get the hd 4200 to work22:02
quinn_Dammit, I just skipped it22:02
quinn_I can probably go and change it later, right?22:02
MyrttiSylphie: please stop with the FUD22:02
quinn_How can I improve my battery life in Ubuntu?/22:05
escott!info powertop | quinn_22:05
ubottuquinn_: powertop (source: powertop): Linux tool to find out what is using power on a laptop. In component main, is extra. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 164 kB, installed size 476 kB22:05
alabalaHi can someone give me a link from where I can download wubi22:06
escottalabala, ubuntu.com22:06
icerootalabala: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/wubi.exe22:06
quinn_!info powertop22:06
ubottupowertop (source: powertop): Linux tool to find out what is using power on a laptop. In component main, is extra. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 164 kB, installed size 476 kB22:06
quinn_Interesting22:07
quinn_So does it do anything to actively save power besides showing you what's using more power?22:07
alabalaescott, Link forwarded to me by not working on alternative like22:07
icerootquinn_: its suggesting other settings and can also set those changes22:07
quinn_oK22:08
alabala10q22:08
escottalabala, "on alternative like"???22:08
quinn_What happened to jupiter? I remember that22:08
k1lalabala: there migth be a support in your native language. what is your native language?22:09
quinn_!info jupiter22:09
ubottuPackage jupiter does not exist in quantal22:09
icerootquinn_: you can also use "msg ubottu info packagename or packages.ubuntu.com  or apt-cache search packagename22:11
icerootquinn_: /msg ubottu info packagename22:11
Mr_Cool59so no one can help me or attempt to help me22:12
quinn_WIsh I could22:12
quinn_Have you tried asking at askubuntu and ubuntuforums?22:13
icerootMr_Cool59: and ubuntu is not offering a non-free driver itself with the driver-dialog?22:13
iwf_Any way to get some help here?22:13
icerootiwf_: with a detailed question (in one line)22:13
p3rrorhello22:13
Mr_Cool59i do not know i have tryed with no help22:13
p3rrori need to use both of wired and wireless connections22:14
p3rrorwhen i activate the wired connection i have no wireless22:14
iwf_Have an install error from USB...could not find kernel22:14
p3rrorplease can you explain to me why ?22:14
quinn_What distro version, and what is your hardware?22:14
blkadderp3rror: Does the wireless work if you don't have the wired enabled?22:14
p3rroryes22:14
p3rrorblkadder, yes22:15
iwf_How do I fix? new to linux an need step by step22:15
Mr_Cool59hear is the  problem i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0422:15
blkadderp3rror: Probably because it is choosing one or the other for networking.22:15
iceroot!amd | Mr_Cool5922:15
iceroot!ati | Mr_Cool5922:15
ubottuMr_Cool59: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:15
p3rrorblkadder, please can you tell me how to fix this22:15
p3rrorI need both of them working22:15
p3rrorone for internet and second to access DMZ22:16
blkadderp3rror: Are they on different networks?22:16
Mr_Cool59amd baught out ati22:16
p3rroryep22:16
p3rrorblkadder, 10.0.0.1/24 and 192.168.0.1/2422:17
Mr_Cool59amd ati is now the same thing you want ati drivers you go to amd22:17
icerootMr_Cool59: i know22:17
icerootMr_Cool59: just the ubottu trigger was still ati instead of amd22:18
blkadderp3rror: Pastebin your ifconfig output22:19
makerbreakrhas anyone had trouble with a Intel® HD Graphics 2500?22:19
makerbreakrI cant get two displays working, with fluxbox/lightdm22:19
p3rrorblkadder, http://paste.debian.net/225464/22:19
makerbreakrI can use xrandr to span the desktop across two displays, but I want two seperate displays22:20
blkadderp3rror: Thanks. Now please pastebin netstat -nr22:20
p3rrorblkadder, http://paste.debian.net/225465/22:20
p3rrorblkadder, when i plug the cable into the ethernet interface22:21
p3rrorblkadder, the wireless icone became grey22:21
p3rrorblkadder, and the wireless is disabled22:22
blkadderp3rror: Got it. So is the output you gave me with the ethernet connected or disconnected?22:22
p3rrorblkadder, disconnected22:22
Mr_Cool59so i am in a room with more then 1500 and not one person is willing to try and help me22:23
blkadderp3rror: So now give me the same output with it connected please?22:23
blkadderp3rror: Probably something in networkmanager I am guessing.22:23
p3rrorblkadder, yes22:23
SylphieMr_Cool59 \ what are the symptoms of your ati problem?22:23
THP_Hey guys, using Ubuntu 10.04, where can I find the config file that controls my desktop toolbars/menus?22:24
blkadderp3rror: Read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager22:24
Mr_Cool59hera is the problem one last time i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0422:24
blkadderp3rror: It is the default behavior.... Will need to change that.22:24
icerootMr_Cool59: are you a troll? i gave you a link for the recommend non-free driver installation on ubuntu and you are telling noone is helping you?22:24
nibbler_p3rror: to me it looks like in the pasted ifconfig/routing like you packets should already be going wirelessß22:24
SylphieMr_Cool59 \ have you tried the open source drivers included with X?22:25
icerootMr_Cool59: dont repeat yourself, read the link from ubottu22:25
icerootMr_Cool59: and if something is not working there post here a message with usefull details what you did, what error messages and so on22:25
Mr_Cool59if i donr not use the ati drives the computer has horable batter life and runs very hot22:25
SylphieMr_Cool59 \ that's a different issue, but at least the open source drivers work, unlike the proprietary drivers22:26
Mr_Cool59i can get the ati drives to work only with teh hd 420022:27
SylphieMr_Cool59 \ that's am improvement, before you said neither was detected22:27
Mr_Cool59that is if i install the legacy drivers if i use the catylist 12.10 it says that  can not find a supported card22:28
Sylphiewhat's so bad with legacy drivers?22:29
Mr_Cool59i can not use ubuntu 12.10 do to the newer x verson22:29
lee8oidoes unity use GDM or something else?22:30
makerbreakrlightdm22:30
lee8oiah thanks22:30
makerbreakrman this is driving me crazy22:31
lee8oithen switch to e17 :P22:31
icerootlee8oi: unity can use gdm, lightdm, kdm and so on but ubuntu itself is using lightdm as default22:31
makerbreakrI had everything working 2 days ago, but now after a re-install, in whcih I believe I followed the same steps, I can not get the intel hd2500 to work22:31
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quinn_Hey, everyone. I don't know if anyone remembers my situation but I installed Ubuntu 12.10 alongside Windows 8 in UEFI mode. The install completed but defaults to Windows with no option at boot to choose Ubuntu.22:32
makerbreakrIm running ubuntu server, with lightdm, and fluxbox, but I cant get two seperate displays22:32
lee8oiiceroot, thanks, actually I just wondered what the default was, I swapped it out for kdm, but I want to switch back.22:32
lee8oi(playing with desktops)22:32
quinn_Hey, everyone. I don't know if anyone remembers my situation but I installed Ubuntu 12.10 alongside Windows 8 in UEFI mode. The install completed but defaults to Windows with no option at boot to choose Ubuntu.22:33
jribl22:33
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Mr_Cool59so we are done with the no help then22:35
quinn_Hey, everyone. I don't know if anyone remembers my situation but I installed Ubuntu 12.10 alongside Windows 8 in UEFI mode. The install completed but defaults to Windows with no option at boot to choose Ubuntu.22:35
Sylphiemakerbreakr \ it is fixable by using an xorg.conf file instead of letting it autodetect22:36
makerbreakrI am using an xorg file22:36
makerbreakrand I know the xorg file is correct22:36
Sylphiequinn_ \ you might need to install and configure grub22:37
maakuescott FINALLY full-disk encryption is working22:38
Sylphiemakerbreakr \ from your description, it sounds like you're getting two displays the way the fluxbox WM is set up to handle that22:38
quinn_I can't boot into Ubuntu though, so what do I do?22:38
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Sylphiequinn_ \ you need to boot again from the cd or whatever you booted from before22:39
maakubasically the new initramfs-tools crypt root system broke in 12.04 the method I had been using and which is well documented online22:39
maakuI had to create a initramfs-tools script to decrypt the RAID array and then cal vgchange -ay22:40
quinn_And then what?22:40
Sylphiequinn_ \ and then you need to install and configure grub, which is linux's bootloader22:40
quinn_Okay, let me go and boot from the USB22:41
francesco_Hi!22:41
francesco_I think someone here has got my same problem22:41
francesco_Boot problems?22:41
atlef!ask | francesco_22:42
ubottufrancesco_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:42
francesco_Ok! thanks for the suggestion!22:42
Mr_Cool59this room with more then 1500 people sucks when it comes to help22:42
atlef?22:43
SylphieMr_Cool59 \ most of those 1500 stay on channel 24/7 and never ever speak. they aren't people, they are window-dressing22:43
atlefthe ubottu msgs are there for a reason, i thought22:43
nightfly!patience22:44
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/22:44
nightfly!sadness22:44
SonikkuAmericaHey, what's the trouble?22:44
Papa-SmurfHi22:44
Mr_Cool59i have been on her for probley more then 30 min with no help22:44
Papa-SmurfAre all ports closed by default with ubuntu?22:44
SonikkuAmericaMr_Cool59: Well speak up! I'm all ears! :)22:44
francesco_My problem is: I was trying to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 in my computer running win7, but the installation went wrong and now the partition where Ubuntu was installed is formatted, so there is no Grub anymore and when I boot my laptop I only get to grub rescue and nothing else. I put ubuntu on a USB, then changed the booting order in the bios but still I come to grub rescue only22:44
k1lPapa-Smurf: yes. only when a programm uses a port its opended22:45
Super_DogI'm having a heck of a time with ia32-libs and getting Teamviewer installed.22:45
Super_Doghttp://pastebin.com/HZJfpq5C22:45
Mr_Cool59ear is my problem i have a laptop with two ATi cards on is a hd 4200 and the other is hd 6300 when i use ubuntu 12.10 and install the drives from amd website i get a mssage that says that it can not find a supported card pleas help i would like to use the newer verson of ubuntu instead of 12.0422:45
Papa-Smurfk1l How I may open then?22:45
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: I assume it was a native install.22:45
SylphieMr_Cool59 \ there is no solution for your problem at the present time, AMD's drivers suck and you don't want the open source drivers22:45
Papa-Smurfk1l,  shall i open them though iptables?22:46
SonikkuAmericaMr_Cool59: I would suggest Linux Mint.22:46
Mr_Cool59open source make the computer very hot and it also has horable battery life22:46
k1lPapa-Smurf: i think you got a wrong idea of ports22:46
SonikkuAmericaMr_Cool59: It's Ubuntu with a lighter desktop environment and extras that make it much much better.22:46
WeThePeopledo i need to input ip address to scan which ports are open using nmap22:46
Super_DogIs this a possible solution?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2000705 - Anybody else have these problems after going from 10.04LTS to 12.04 LTS 64-bit?22:46
francesco_so what can I do now?22:46
Papa-Smurfk1l, mmm.. i understand by port what i can track with nmap22:47
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_:  Try reinstalling it in the formatted partition.22:47
k1lSonikkuAmerica: suggesting mint would help with that issue is not the right way22:47
SylphieMr_Cool59 \ and AMD's drivers don't work at all at this present time, which might save on battery life from non-use, but it's a damned if you do damned if you don't choice22:47
Papa-Smurfk1l, so i guess port 22 is for ssh22:48
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SonikkuAmericak1l: True enough... but that beats out 3 zillion lines in the terminal.22:48
k1lPapa-Smurf: why you want a port to be opened? you still need a programm behind that port listening. so i would assume you wnat a programm that listens to that specific port22:48
Papa-Smurfk1l,  are we speaking about the same thing?22:48
Papa-Smurfk1l, yes I have a program that need to listen through that port22:48
k1lPapa-Smurf: like you wnat "something" on port 22 you install a sshd because its most common to listen on port 2222:49
Super_DogI get "Error: Cannot install 'ia32-libs'" when trying to install *.deb Teamviewer package 7 or 8 beta...  Used to work on my 10.04 LTS setup...22:49
quinn_I'm back.. how do I install grub?22:50
Papa-Smurfk1l,  yes... but what happen if i want to have ssh working on port 72?22:50
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k1lPapa-Smurf: you tell sshd to listen on port 72 in their config22:50
SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: IIRC for some reason ia32-libs managed to disappear...22:50
atlef!grub | quinn_22:51
ubottuquinn_: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)22:51
Papa-Smurfk1l do the config do the rest for me?22:51
SonikkuAmericaMr_Cool59: Or see if you can use another desktop environment22:51
sazawalI have installed tor-browser, but it is showing that ~/.tor-browser/Data/Tor is not owned by the current user but by the root. Help!!22:51
k1lPapa-Smurf: in the case of sshd, yes22:51
Sylphiequinn_ \ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435122:52
SonikkuAmericaMr_Cool59: You may not be able to run Unity, but I'm pretty sure some of the other flavors are less dependent on your GFX card22:52
quinn_I installed Ubuntu  in a dual boot with Win8, and when I go to turn on the machine, I don't get a prompt to choose WIndows or Ubuntu - it just goes to Windows22:52
Papa-Smurfk1l,  OK but i don't want to use sshd i need to open the ports to play WoW22:52
Super_DogSonnikkuAmerica:  Any fix for this?22:53
Papa-Smurfk1l,  and those do not seem to open automatically22:53
Sylphiequinn_ \ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto22:53
SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: I'm seeing what I can do currently (although I'm running Linux Mint at present but the operation is very similar)22:53
k1lPapa-Smurf: ok, that is a whol different situation. i would make sure that the router forwards that ports to your pc in the first place22:53
quinn_GrubHowTo goes to the GRUB page which doesn't help22:54
Papa-Smurfk1l,  yes my computer is in DMZ of my router22:54
atlefquinn_: is this a new machine22:55
Sylphiequinn_ \ it has a link to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing22:56
SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: Btw a small pro tip: Make sure Wine is installed.22:56
usr13Papa-Smurf: To answer your first question:  Are all ports closed by default with ubuntu?  Answer is no.  They are all open.22:56
usr13Papa-Smurf: What exactly are you trying to do?22:56
SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: Also, do you have GDebi installed?22:56
Super_DogCurrently trying these command:  http://pastebin.com/xids4bn0  - On 3rd line - we'll see what happens..22:57
Super_DogYes, I have Gdebi installed...22:57
k1lPapa-Smurf: that got to be some other problem. and im not finding any wow/wine/ubuntu problem  that deals with the ports22:57
Super_DogThis appears to suggest a solution...  Cross fingers...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200070522:57
Super_DogDidn't give error.... Now let's see...22:58
usr13Papa-Smurf: If there is no service listening on a certain port, then it might as well be closed because nothing will happen there.22:58
Papa-Smurfusr13, k1l  i just need to open the port 3724 for WoW, if i do netstat -anltp the only port that seems to listen inbound connections is 2222:59
Super_DogLooks like TeamViewer is working.  Forum fix looks like it's legit for this problem so far.22:59
usr13Papa-Smurf: Look at the application that is supposed to be listening for connection o port 3724 for your problem.22:59
Super_DogMust have been something that got screwed up in the 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS upgrade.  New install users don't seem to be experiencing this issue.23:00
Super_DogProbably a dependency snafu...23:00
Papa-Smurfusr13 you mean to change the port?23:00
SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: I installed 12.10 (and later Linux Mint 14) from scratch and it hated on me...23:01
usr13Papa-Smurf: No.  Why change the port?23:01
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SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: OK, I just downloaded the .deb file, installed it with GDebi with no problems.23:01
usr13Papa-Smurf: See my PM23:02
Super_DogSonnikkuAmerica: You running LInux mint 14 or Ubuntu 12.10?23:03
Super_DogBingo....  Up and running now with TeamViewer.  That Forum thread solution worked for me...23:03
SonikkuAmericaI had tried it with 12.10 (sans Wine) and failed, installed Wine and succeeded.23:03
Super_DogHopefully no more ia32-libs problems.23:03
SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: Later trashed 12.10 for LM 14 and did the same thing.23:04
Super_DogYeah, I've got WINE installed on this bad boy already....  At least it shows up in my synaptic as checked off...23:04
SylphieSonikkuAmerica \ does linux mint have working support for ipfilter rather than iptables/netfilter?23:06
Super_DogHaven't messed with Wine for a while.  Have you found some progress running Windows apps in Wine.  Tried CrossOver Linux a while back and was just too spotty for me.  Ended up running all windows apps I need in VM using Virtual Box.23:06
Super_DogDoes TeamViewer need Wine for some reason?  I installed the V8 TV beta...23:07
SonikkuAmericaSuper_Dog: Yeah it does. Don't ask why, I dunno.23:07
rmbellthey use their own build of it i think23:07
bobweaverSuper_Dog,  teamviewer uses wine and needs it yes23:08
OmnipotentEntityhey, I'm trying to set this computer up as a (wireless) router.  But for some reason bringing the interfaces up and down using "service networking start/stop" doesn't work23:08
OmnipotentEntityis there a newer way to manage network connections that I'm not aware of?  Or is there something completely broken with my configuration?23:09
Super_DogWhat's the latest version of IE you can run with Wine successfully on the Ubuntu desktop?23:09
svvitchexcuse me, but i have a very noob question, i can't switch between graphic cards on hp dv-6, kubuntu is installed ?23:11
francesco_sorry SonikkuAmerica, but I can't install anything now23:11
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: How come?23:11
francesco_Grub rescue does not allow me to install anything23:11
Super_DogThanks for helping me out guys.  Appreciate all the wisdom I get here on #ubuntu....23:12
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: I meant from whatever you originally installed Ubuntu with (Live media, etc)23:12
francesco_hi! Is there somebody able to help me? My problem is: I was trying to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 in my computer running win7, but the installation went wrong and now the partition where Ubuntu was installed is formatted, so there is no Grub anymore and when I boot my laptop I only get to grub rescue and nothing else. I put ubuntu on a USB, then changed the booting order in the bios but still I come to grub rescue only23:13
francesco_the problem is that I tried reinstalling it but I can't start the installation23:13
SonikkuAmericafran23:14
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: In other words it didn't recognize your USB device as bootable.23:14
francesco_exact23:14
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: You can't just drag the image onto a USB drive, you have to make it bootable (via Universal USB installer, YUMI, or whatever they use on a Mac)23:15
BliepoHey everyone23:15
francesco_I tried 2 different softwares but none of them gave the expected result23:15
BliepoI have got a really big problem: I was resizing an ext4 partition on my laptop, when I tripped over the cable and it lost power (battery is totally dead). What do I do now?!23:16
SonikkuAmericafrances23:16
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: (I keep forgetting to hit TAB) Seems like we'll have to use insmod for the time being.23:16
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: Boot up the problem machine. When the GRUB rescue prompt shows up, type "ls" (without quotes) and hit ENTER. Tell me what you see.23:17
francesco_I see hd0 hd0,msdos2 hd0,msdos1 hd0,msdos323:18
Bliepo32Woops, seems that nick was already taken. Anyway, can anyone help me with my problem (the interrupted resize)?23:18
francesco_when the USB is also inside I see also hd1 hd1,msdos1. I tried already the "set"command but it seems that in none of my partitions there is any trace of ubuntu23:19
Super_DogBliepo32:  Not sure if you can do anything other than try and reboot.    Could be rough.  Did you image your drive before resizing?23:20
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: Is (hd0,X) present? (X is anything)23:20
francesco_I have (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos3)23:21
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: 3 DOS partitions? Which is Windows 7?23:22
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francesco_I'm sorry but I really have no idea about this language. I'm totally beginner with that. Before doing all this mess on windows I could see 4 partitions and win7 was in the 1st one, while UBUNTU was in the last one23:23
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: Actually, what you'll have to do is fix your Windows MBR to boot into Windows and then give installing Ubuntu another shot.23:23
francesco_I tried to do that but I didn't succeed. I tried to follow some instructions found in google, but apparently from grub rescue there is no much that can be done23:25
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: It's not done from GRUB rescue.23:25
riderplusfrancesco_ you need to find a way to reinstall GRUB23:25
SonikkuAmericariderplus: His Ubuntu partition doesn't appear to even exist.23:26
fschuindtGuys, I am using Backtrack 5 R3 (I have the same problem on ubuntu before) on a VBox macbook host. I get the D-Link DWA-110 wiresless USB adapter, installed the mac drivers (working on mac) and shared this USB port to the guest machine (BT). But no one wifi device recognized by BT. Somebody can help me? :(23:26
p47When I Share a File in ubuntu with gnome I can't see the file smb.conf edited. why???23:26
SonikkuAmerica!backtrack | fschuindt23:26
ubottufschuindt: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)23:26
riderplusfschuindt try in #backtrack-linux channel23:26
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SonikkuAmericafschuindt: Unless you're running Ubuntu as the host OS in the Mac machine that is.23:27
fschuindtSonikkuAmerica: hm, ok23:27
riderplusfrancesco_ if you have the live USB or CD whatever then you should be able to boot Ubuntu23:27
PigDudewhat's up with the TOC in Document Reader? It's all jacked up: http://i.imgur.com/XZjb0.png23:28
PigDudeis there a better gtk+ document reader?23:28
PigDudei'm referring to how the arrows are flush with the left side and are not aligned with their items23:28
PigDudei like kpdf better i think but i want gtk+ system23:28
SonikkuAmericaOops, didn't mean to do that23:29
riderplusPigDude what app are you using again?23:29
PigDuderiderplus, evince (default)23:29
PigDuderiderplus, i remember a while ago when i used dapper drake evince was really nice looking23:29
riderplusi use evince with no issues at all23:29
riderpluswhat version of evince do you use?23:29
PigDude3.6.023:30
PigDudeyea, mine's all funky :P23:30
k1lnot that issue on a 12.10 here at all23:30
riderplusand what's bothering you?23:30
PigDudebut i'm not crazy ... that looks weird to you too?23:30
PigDudelook at the TOC ... it's really ugly23:30
PigDudearrows not aligned, items take too much vertical space23:30
PigDudehm epdfview has the same funky TOC display23:31
PigDudebut in Preview on mac it displays like any other TOC23:31
PigDudewonder if it's something w/ the tree widget23:32
k1lPigDude: you are sure the TOC is right? http://ompldr.org/vaDNydA23:32
riderplussorry but I don't see how the arrows are not aligned23:33
PigDudek1l, i mean this is just what shows on my screen. other gtk apps look fine23:33
PigDuderiderplus, that's fine, but they're plainly misaligned. compare w/ k1l's screen23:33
riderplusthe "child" arrows are not aligned, yes23:33
PigDudehm let's see how xpdf does23:33
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FloodBot1srx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:34
riderplusI would install okular. even in gnome it works like a charm23:35
srxalguien de madrid?23:35
riderpluswho the fuck are you, srx?23:35
k1l!es | srx23:35
ubottusrx: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:35
francesco_how can I get to reinstall grub or to modify the MBR of windows?23:35
k1lriderplus: please watch the language here in this channel. thanks23:36
riderplusfrancesco_ you seemed to have ignored me. do you have the live USB/DVD/CD?23:36
srxim the fucker of u mother23:36
PigDudehaha23:37
francesco_sorry riderplus, I didn't see your answer. Yes, I have a live USB23:37
riderplushow did you create it?23:37
riderplusI hope not with unetbootin...23:37
francesco_I used a software called LiLi USB creator23:38
riderplusfrom windows i guess23:38
riderpluswhat happens when you boot?23:38
brady2600sogeking99:  you should look into your graphics drivers23:39
francesco_yes, from windows23:39
riderplusyou should have used the Live USB Creator, but now it's too late23:39
riderpluswhat happens when you boot up from USB?23:39
wlosioHi. Im running Xubuntu. 1. i cannot change default video player / 2. in VLC in fullscreen i see panels from xfce ( vlc 2.0.5)23:40
BroUnicornOkay so23:40
BroUnicornI installed ubuntu using the install option,23:40
BroUnicornnow I want to add a Windows 8 partition but I can't edit the partition that was made for ubuntu.23:40
francesco_I have another computer, so I can remake the USB with live USB creator23:41
riderplusfrancesco_ do that23:41
BroUnicorn(from disk utility on mac). Also, when I try to boot to ubuntu it's named "Windows" for some reason23:41
francesco_I will try and let you know23:41
escottBroUnicorn, APPL is only slighly less self centered than MSFT. MSFT recognizes no other OS, APPL recognizes only MSFT23:42
riderplusBroUnicorn first install windows 8, then Ubuntu23:42
bwongHi I am having trouble installing ubuntu 2.10 64bit, can anyone help?23:43
BroUnicornOh, so I need to uninstall my Ubuntu partition?23:43
riderplusbwong what trouble?23:43
bwongI am running into this problem23:43
bwonghttp://askubuntu.com/questions/169600/fix-grub2-after-installing-ubuntu-12-0423:43
riderplusBroUnicorn just make a fresh install of windows 8, then install ubuntu23:43
bwongriderplus but none of the solution provided works23:44
BroUnicornI already have ubuntu installed though23:44
BroUnicornso I need to uninstall it?23:44
riderplusbwong are you trying to install 12.10?23:44
bwongyes23:44
riderplusBroUnicorn just follow the windows 8 installer instructions...better to wipe out your ubuntu partition though23:45
riderplusBroUnicorn then install Ubuntu23:45
bwongAfter installing ubuntu and reboot, this is the error it gives me error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found23:45
bwongand goes into Grub Rescue23:45
riderplusbwong crap how did you install it?23:46
bwongI pop the cd in23:47
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bwongand followed the instructions23:47
bwongi chose wipe the drive and install ubuntu23:47
riderpluswhich partition did you choose to install grub to?23:47
riderplusi see..23:47
bwongi dont know... it didnt ask23:47
bwongit just says wipe drive and install ubuntu23:47
bwongor keep whats win7 and install ubuntu on the side23:48
riderplusi guess you chose 32 bit install23:48
bwongumm23:48
bwongit didnt give an option23:48
bwongplus i downloaded the x64 bit one...23:48
riderpluswell, are you sure your computer supports x64?23:48
bwonghow do I find out23:49
bwongits a core i5 computer23:49
bwonglaptop*23:49
riderplushttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1760024.html23:50
francesco_riderplus: I have 3 different ISO for Ubuntu: 12.04.1 desktop amd64, 12.04.1 desktop-i386 or ubuntustudio 12.04.1 dvd-i386. Which one is better to make the USB bootable drive?23:50
riderplusfrancesco_ what proc do you have?23:50
riderplusfrancesco_ if you have intel, then go for 12.04.1 desktop-i38623:51
francesco_AMD A8 quad-core - 64bit... I don't know much more about it23:51
usr13desktop-i386 or dvd-i38623:51
wlosiodesktop-amd6423:52
wlosioLD23:52
wlosio=D23:52
riderplusthen obviously the first option23:52
usr13I guess it's really just a matter of opinion.23:52
francesco_riderplus: ok! thank you! I'll try now!23:52
riderplusit's a matter of compatibility also23:52
usr13riderplus: What do you man "if you have intel"?23:52
usr13riderplus: "amd64"  just means   64bit.23:53
riderplususually i386 is the best for intel that are not dual core23:53
riderplususr13 yes, so?23:53
Pici!amd6423:53
ubottuAMD64 and Intel 64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#AMD64_Processors and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.23:53
riderplusi told him to choose amd6423:54
p47can I set up a nautilus fileshared umask in the config file?23:54
usr13riderplus: Well, I just didn't understand your "if you have intel" phrase.23:54
usr13sorry23:54
riderplusnp23:54
usr13Wanted to clarify it not just for you but for anyone else that might be watching, (because I've seen that a number of people get confused by "amd64".23:55
OmnipotentEntityI have a box that isn't going on and offline when I issue /etc/init.d/networking start and stop, the script is just hanging, anyone know how to start troubleshooting it?23:57

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