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psivaahello, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ still has yesterday's images and 20130117 images are not under the 'current'tab. Is there any known reasons?09:35
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Laneypsivaa: They sure look like today's images to me09:37
Laneywhat's the current tab?09:37
psivaahttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/09:38
Laneyraring-desktop-i386.iso              17-Jan-2013 08:5209:38
psivaaha all of a sudden, thanks anyway09:40
cjwatsonYou seem to regularly check at just about the time when new builds are typically syncing09:43
cjwatsonI suspect you'd save yourself some heartache if you just checked a bit later :)09:43
psivaaok, ill remember that. Is there a specific time daily when i could be sure that the images would be there for use? from the right location?09:49
cjwatsonNot really, just a bit later than what you've been trying09:51
infinitypsivaa: Hard to guarantee a specific time when build lengths vary.09:52
infinitypsivaa: Unless you want us to build them a few hours earlier and artificially delay publishing them. :P09:52
psivaainfinity: i agree that the time varies and for the same reason i can't sit and wait for ever. But ill wait some more time from now :)09:58
infinitypsivaa: Sadly, there's no time to build/publish all images that would be ideal for everyone.  If we could work out such magic, we would. :)09:59
psivaainfinity: i understand10:01
smartboyhwAny release team members here???11:16
cjwatsonbetter to ask what you want ...11:22
smartboyhwcjwatson, sorry for not asking:P11:22
smartboyhwIf you guys saw the email on the ubuntu-release mailing list, I found that there isn't any x86 live images for Ubuntu Studio 12.04.211:23
cjwatsonI think I just fixed that11:23
smartboyhwcjohnston, when do you mean "just"? (since I just didn't see a new build having it)11:24
smartboyhwSorry wrong ping11:24
* smartboyhw hates tab failure11:24
cjwatsonjust now11:25
cjwatsonlike a few minutes ago11:25
cjwatsonI didn't kick off any new builds - cron can do that11:26
smartboyhwOh:D11:26
smartboyhwThanks cjwatson :D11:26
cjwatsonyou should get one later today11:26
smartboyhwThanks11:29
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mdeslaurScottK: any idea why bind9 is stuck in raring-proposed?14:09
ScottKmdeslaur: libnss-lwres would become uninstallable.14:15
ScottK(apparently)14:16
mdeslaurScottK: ah, are you going to upload a rebuild?14:19
ScottKLet me look into it.14:19
ScottKI'd forgotten it didn't migrate.14:19
mdeslaurScottK: thanks14:19
ScottKmdeslaur: Done.14:35
mdeslaurScottK: thanks!14:35
ScottKThanks for reminding me.14:35
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plarsinfinity, balloons: we are still planning to start the release candidate/qa process for 12.04.2 next week correct?17:31
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Riddellanyone able to review qaccessibilityclient in New?  it's needed for new KDE due today17:35
infinityplars: Ish.  Though we'll have two extra weeks to play with there, so I suspect a few more fixes may slip in.17:42
bjfinfinity, the kernel in -proposed/-updates today is the 12.04.2 kernel18:02
infinitybjf: That was my hope, yes.18:03
bjfinfinity, we are going to skip the next kernel SRU cadence cycle18:03
infinitybjf: Kay, that should let things settle nicely.18:07
infinitybjf: Though, with the .2 release delay, you may be skipping two cycles.18:07
infinitybjf: Or, I guess, once we stop building against -proposed, we can let a new kernel into -proposed and just make sure not to promote it.18:07
bjfinfinity, i think my next kernels my sit in my ppa for a bit18:09
bjfinfinity, but we can work with whatever comes18:09
infinitybjf: *nod*... We'll figure it out.18:10
infinitybjf: Given that I do 99% of the kernel SRU processing, you know who to talk to when we need to coordinate this. :)18:10
bjfinfinity, yup18:11
infinitybjf: Oh hey, and everything got marked for promotion earlier today.  Shiny.18:11
infinityWell, everything except lowlatency.  Those slackers.18:12
infinityapw: Are your studio minions doing some smoketesting on lowlatency?18:12
apwinfinity, i have not heard specifics, will ask18:13
infinityapw: Kay.  Honestly, I just want 'em to boot them and make sure their hardware doesn't set on fire, since they should otherwise be able to piggyback on master's verification testing.18:14
apwi concur indeed, and if i was at home i would do it myself nwo18:15
ogra_go home then, quick !18:15
infinityHah.18:15
* apw will go the pub, that is home, right?18:16
infinitySounds like a good home to me.18:16
* ogra_ doubts thats a good place to test low latency 18:16
* infinity sets about releasing all the other kernels.18:17
infinityOh, I guess I should verify all the meta and dkms bits first.18:20
bjfinfinity, maybe we should extend shank-bot that when it's run by you it does all the release stuff for the various packages18:21
infinityBah.  The changelog for linux-meta-lowlatency was broken.18:24
infinityOh well, not releasing that one right now anyway.18:24
infinityapw: Is linux-meta-lowlatency in git somewhere, or can I just upload to fix your changelog syntax oops?18:25
rtginfinity, I'd say just upload with a fix and apw can figure it out after the fact.18:28
infinityrtg: Fair enough.18:28
rtgdrop him a note perhaps18:29
infinitycjwatson: Can I get a quickie review/accept of that linux-meta-lowlatency?18:38
scott-workoooooh :-D18:40
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infinitybdmurray: *poke*19:07
bdmurrayinfinity: hmm what?19:09
infinitybdmurray: I'm trying to be a good citizen and not self-accept my own SRUs.  Can you give a quickie review/accept to linux-meta-lowlatency in precise?19:09
infinitybdmurray: Should be a 5-second review. :P19:10
bdmurraywhat a coincidence - I uploaded apport to quantal.19:12
infinityI'm betting this won't be a fair trade...19:12
infinityBut I probably still owe you for making you look at glibc SRUs at one point, don't I?19:12
bdmurraynot fair because your definition of 5 minutes is funny19:12
infinitybdmurray: No, my review really is 5 seconds.  Just fixing changelog syntax so dpkg-parsechangelog doesn't vomit. :P19:13
infinityMany thanks.19:15
infinityNow, where's this apport you spoke of?19:15
infinitybdmurray: Oh, the upload from 6 days ago?19:15
bdmurrayinfinity: yes that's the one19:16
infinitybdmurray: This doesn't need to go to precise as well?19:17
infinity(I'm guessing precise is entirely missing that codepath, or...?)19:17
bdmurrayinfinity: the only thing I know that is affected is the release upgrader and catching issue upgrading to quantal didn't seem as important...19:20
infinitybdmurray: So, who's going to rewrite apport in C, so it actually performs? :)19:23
xnoxinfinity: ev has urges to rewrite stuff in C from time to time =)19:25
infinityxnox: Well, with the push to mobile and other wimpy devices, the more we can purge python from the base system, the happier I'll be. :P19:26
xnoxinfinity: cause javascript is so much faster than python?!19:27
* xnox chuckles19:27
infinityxnox: Yeah, not quite what I was driving for.19:30
cjwatsonThanks, but that sawfish won't build unless somebody also reviews rep-gtk.19:35
cjwatson(Though the version in precise was fine)19:36
cjwatsonah yes, and let's close the rep-gtk raring task in case that confuses anyone19:47
infinitycjwatson: Alright, that bcmwl in proposed just shaved another ~12M off the precise images.  Getting closer.20:51
infinitycjwatson: (compare 20130117 and 20130117.1)20:54
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infinitybdmurray: If I can get you to review (again, sorry, missed a bug) linux-meta-lowlatency in both precise and quantal? :)21:17
infinitybdmurray: (Yeah, this wouldn't normally be time-sensitive, but trying to keep the meta SRUs and verifications lockstep with the kernels they match)21:18
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bdmurrayinfinity: sure no problem21:37
infinitybdmurray: My hero.21:37
infinitybdmurray: Is there any specific order you're attacking the queues today?  I can start from the other end and try to get some done too.21:38
bdmurrayI'm looking at Q and anything since 2013-01-0121:38
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xnoxinfinity: 4 easy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/108539221:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 1085392 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu Quantal) "Merge Chromebook UCM profiles into ALSA packages" [High,In progress]21:41
infinityxnox: Yeah, I know.  I'm not looking for just easy. :P21:41
infinityxnox: But I'll get to those.21:41
bdmurrayinfinity: I'm just going to accept it not sru-accept - okay?21:42
infinitybdmurray: Sure.21:43
infinitybdmurray: I normally never sru-accept kernely things anyway, since there's a whole out-of-band process there.21:43
xnoxinfinity: ack. I guess I should verify precise things that are in -proposed and are on the cd.21:44
infinitybdmurray: You're a scholar and a gentleman.21:46
infinitybdmurray: You might also smell nice too.  Can't say.21:46
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cjwatsonCould somebody process the dosfstools-udeb binaries in raring/NEW?  It's time-sensitive because I need to get matching SRUs in for 12.04.2 to meet a customer requirement22:42
cjwatsonShould go into main - I'll be changing partman-basicfilesystems to depend on it shortly22:43
infinitycjwatson: I'll have a stab at it right now.22:59
infinitycjwatson: No postinst, contents look sane, looks good to me.23:00
cjwatsonYeah, I'd have had to try to get it wrong.  I dithered about whether to put dosfslabel in as well, but decided I didn't need it in partman-basicfilesystems.23:01
infinitycjwatson: You may regret that decision in a few months.  dosfslabel is pretty handy.23:02
cjwatsonEasy enough to change if we do need it.  I don't believe I've ever used it though.23:02
infinitycjwatson: (though, in partman, you can sort of assume you're setting labels as a function of formatting filesystems, which mkdosfs does fine on its own)23:02
cjwatsonExactly23:02
cjwatsonIn fact it doesn't have a code path for doing otherwise AFAICS23:03
cjwatson(It arguably should, but)23:03
infinityWe use(d) dosfslabel in jasper to hide the uboot VFAT partition.23:03
infinityWhich, actually, partman-uboot could leverage, if it wasn't a steaming heap.23:04
infinityWhat I can't sort out is why dosfslabel is twice the size of mkdosfs...23:06
cjwatsonBeats me23:07
infinityYou'd think one could make it reeeeally tiny, as just a subset of mkdosfs.  Or, in fact, a hardlink/symlink that just invokes mkdosfs with a label-changing mode.23:07
infinityBut whatever.23:07
infinityCarefactor: 0.23:08
cjwatsonI think it links a buttload of objects it doesn't need23:08
cjwatsonAnd something doesn't notice23:08
cjwatsonbut yeah, whatever.  maybe it's harder because it's reading an existing filesystem as well as writing bits out, and doing an overachieved job of it23:08
cjwatsonmkdosfs just has to go "yeah, screw you, blat"23:09
infinityHeh.23:09
infinityFair point.  I imagine writing a FAT is about the easiest filesystem creation there is.23:09
infinityAnd requires zero understanding of how to read it.23:09

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