psivaa | hello, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ still has yesterday's images and 20130117 images are not under the 'current'tab. Is there any known reasons? | 09:35 |
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Laney | psivaa: They sure look like today's images to me | 09:37 |
Laney | what's the current tab? | 09:37 |
psivaa | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 09:38 |
Laney | raring-desktop-i386.iso 17-Jan-2013 08:52 | 09:38 |
psivaa | ha all of a sudden, thanks anyway | 09:40 |
cjwatson | You seem to regularly check at just about the time when new builds are typically syncing | 09:43 |
cjwatson | I suspect you'd save yourself some heartache if you just checked a bit later :) | 09:43 |
psivaa | ok, ill remember that. Is there a specific time daily when i could be sure that the images would be there for use? from the right location? | 09:49 |
cjwatson | Not really, just a bit later than what you've been trying | 09:51 |
infinity | psivaa: Hard to guarantee a specific time when build lengths vary. | 09:52 |
infinity | psivaa: Unless you want us to build them a few hours earlier and artificially delay publishing them. :P | 09:52 |
psivaa | infinity: i agree that the time varies and for the same reason i can't sit and wait for ever. But ill wait some more time from now :) | 09:58 |
infinity | psivaa: Sadly, there's no time to build/publish all images that would be ideal for everyone. If we could work out such magic, we would. :) | 09:59 |
psivaa | infinity: i understand | 10:01 |
smartboyhw | Any release team members here??? | 11:16 |
cjwatson | better to ask what you want ... | 11:22 |
smartboyhw | cjwatson, sorry for not asking:P | 11:22 |
smartboyhw | If you guys saw the email on the ubuntu-release mailing list, I found that there isn't any x86 live images for Ubuntu Studio 12.04.2 | 11:23 |
cjwatson | I think I just fixed that | 11:23 |
smartboyhw | cjohnston, when do you mean "just"? (since I just didn't see a new build having it) | 11:24 |
smartboyhw | Sorry wrong ping | 11:24 |
* smartboyhw hates tab failure | 11:24 | |
cjwatson | just now | 11:25 |
cjwatson | like a few minutes ago | 11:25 |
cjwatson | I didn't kick off any new builds - cron can do that | 11:26 |
smartboyhw | Oh:D | 11:26 |
smartboyhw | Thanks cjwatson :D | 11:26 |
cjwatson | you should get one later today | 11:26 |
smartboyhw | Thanks | 11:29 |
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mdeslaur | ScottK: any idea why bind9 is stuck in raring-proposed? | 14:09 |
ScottK | mdeslaur: libnss-lwres would become uninstallable. | 14:15 |
ScottK | (apparently) | 14:16 |
mdeslaur | ScottK: ah, are you going to upload a rebuild? | 14:19 |
ScottK | Let me look into it. | 14:19 |
ScottK | I'd forgotten it didn't migrate. | 14:19 |
mdeslaur | ScottK: thanks | 14:19 |
ScottK | mdeslaur: Done. | 14:35 |
mdeslaur | ScottK: thanks! | 14:35 |
ScottK | Thanks for reminding me. | 14:35 |
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plars | infinity, balloons: we are still planning to start the release candidate/qa process for 12.04.2 next week correct? | 17:31 |
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Riddell | anyone able to review qaccessibilityclient in New? it's needed for new KDE due today | 17:35 |
infinity | plars: Ish. Though we'll have two extra weeks to play with there, so I suspect a few more fixes may slip in. | 17:42 |
bjf | infinity, the kernel in -proposed/-updates today is the 12.04.2 kernel | 18:02 |
infinity | bjf: That was my hope, yes. | 18:03 |
bjf | infinity, we are going to skip the next kernel SRU cadence cycle | 18:03 |
infinity | bjf: Kay, that should let things settle nicely. | 18:07 |
infinity | bjf: Though, with the .2 release delay, you may be skipping two cycles. | 18:07 |
infinity | bjf: Or, I guess, once we stop building against -proposed, we can let a new kernel into -proposed and just make sure not to promote it. | 18:07 |
bjf | infinity, i think my next kernels my sit in my ppa for a bit | 18:09 |
bjf | infinity, but we can work with whatever comes | 18:09 |
infinity | bjf: *nod*... We'll figure it out. | 18:10 |
infinity | bjf: Given that I do 99% of the kernel SRU processing, you know who to talk to when we need to coordinate this. :) | 18:10 |
bjf | infinity, yup | 18:11 |
infinity | bjf: Oh hey, and everything got marked for promotion earlier today. Shiny. | 18:11 |
infinity | Well, everything except lowlatency. Those slackers. | 18:12 |
infinity | apw: Are your studio minions doing some smoketesting on lowlatency? | 18:12 |
apw | infinity, i have not heard specifics, will ask | 18:13 |
infinity | apw: Kay. Honestly, I just want 'em to boot them and make sure their hardware doesn't set on fire, since they should otherwise be able to piggyback on master's verification testing. | 18:14 |
apw | i concur indeed, and if i was at home i would do it myself nwo | 18:15 |
ogra_ | go home then, quick ! | 18:15 |
infinity | Hah. | 18:15 |
* apw will go the pub, that is home, right? | 18:16 | |
infinity | Sounds like a good home to me. | 18:16 |
* ogra_ doubts thats a good place to test low latency | 18:16 | |
* infinity sets about releasing all the other kernels. | 18:17 | |
infinity | Oh, I guess I should verify all the meta and dkms bits first. | 18:20 |
bjf | infinity, maybe we should extend shank-bot that when it's run by you it does all the release stuff for the various packages | 18:21 |
infinity | Bah. The changelog for linux-meta-lowlatency was broken. | 18:24 |
infinity | Oh well, not releasing that one right now anyway. | 18:24 |
infinity | apw: Is linux-meta-lowlatency in git somewhere, or can I just upload to fix your changelog syntax oops? | 18:25 |
rtg | infinity, I'd say just upload with a fix and apw can figure it out after the fact. | 18:28 |
infinity | rtg: Fair enough. | 18:28 |
rtg | drop him a note perhaps | 18:29 |
infinity | cjwatson: Can I get a quickie review/accept of that linux-meta-lowlatency? | 18:38 |
scott-work | oooooh :-D | 18:40 |
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infinity | bdmurray: *poke* | 19:07 |
bdmurray | infinity: hmm what? | 19:09 |
infinity | bdmurray: I'm trying to be a good citizen and not self-accept my own SRUs. Can you give a quickie review/accept to linux-meta-lowlatency in precise? | 19:09 |
infinity | bdmurray: Should be a 5-second review. :P | 19:10 |
bdmurray | what a coincidence - I uploaded apport to quantal. | 19:12 |
infinity | I'm betting this won't be a fair trade... | 19:12 |
infinity | But I probably still owe you for making you look at glibc SRUs at one point, don't I? | 19:12 |
bdmurray | not fair because your definition of 5 minutes is funny | 19:12 |
infinity | bdmurray: No, my review really is 5 seconds. Just fixing changelog syntax so dpkg-parsechangelog doesn't vomit. :P | 19:13 |
infinity | Many thanks. | 19:15 |
infinity | Now, where's this apport you spoke of? | 19:15 |
infinity | bdmurray: Oh, the upload from 6 days ago? | 19:15 |
bdmurray | infinity: yes that's the one | 19:16 |
infinity | bdmurray: This doesn't need to go to precise as well? | 19:17 |
infinity | (I'm guessing precise is entirely missing that codepath, or...?) | 19:17 |
bdmurray | infinity: the only thing I know that is affected is the release upgrader and catching issue upgrading to quantal didn't seem as important... | 19:20 |
infinity | bdmurray: So, who's going to rewrite apport in C, so it actually performs? :) | 19:23 |
xnox | infinity: ev has urges to rewrite stuff in C from time to time =) | 19:25 |
infinity | xnox: Well, with the push to mobile and other wimpy devices, the more we can purge python from the base system, the happier I'll be. :P | 19:26 |
xnox | infinity: cause javascript is so much faster than python?! | 19:27 |
* xnox chuckles | 19:27 | |
infinity | xnox: Yeah, not quite what I was driving for. | 19:30 |
cjwatson | Thanks, but that sawfish won't build unless somebody also reviews rep-gtk. | 19:35 |
cjwatson | (Though the version in precise was fine) | 19:36 |
cjwatson | ah yes, and let's close the rep-gtk raring task in case that confuses anyone | 19:47 |
infinity | cjwatson: Alright, that bcmwl in proposed just shaved another ~12M off the precise images. Getting closer. | 20:51 |
infinity | cjwatson: (compare 20130117 and 20130117.1) | 20:54 |
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infinity | bdmurray: If I can get you to review (again, sorry, missed a bug) linux-meta-lowlatency in both precise and quantal? :) | 21:17 |
infinity | bdmurray: (Yeah, this wouldn't normally be time-sensitive, but trying to keep the meta SRUs and verifications lockstep with the kernels they match) | 21:18 |
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bdmurray | infinity: sure no problem | 21:37 |
infinity | bdmurray: My hero. | 21:37 |
infinity | bdmurray: Is there any specific order you're attacking the queues today? I can start from the other end and try to get some done too. | 21:38 |
bdmurray | I'm looking at Q and anything since 2013-01-01 | 21:38 |
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xnox | infinity: 4 easy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/alsa-lib/+bug/1085392 | 21:41 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1085392 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu Quantal) "Merge Chromebook UCM profiles into ALSA packages" [High,In progress] | 21:41 |
infinity | xnox: Yeah, I know. I'm not looking for just easy. :P | 21:41 |
infinity | xnox: But I'll get to those. | 21:41 |
bdmurray | infinity: I'm just going to accept it not sru-accept - okay? | 21:42 |
infinity | bdmurray: Sure. | 21:43 |
infinity | bdmurray: I normally never sru-accept kernely things anyway, since there's a whole out-of-band process there. | 21:43 |
xnox | infinity: ack. I guess I should verify precise things that are in -proposed and are on the cd. | 21:44 |
infinity | bdmurray: You're a scholar and a gentleman. | 21:46 |
infinity | bdmurray: You might also smell nice too. Can't say. | 21:46 |
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cjwatson | Could somebody process the dosfstools-udeb binaries in raring/NEW? It's time-sensitive because I need to get matching SRUs in for 12.04.2 to meet a customer requirement | 22:42 |
cjwatson | Should go into main - I'll be changing partman-basicfilesystems to depend on it shortly | 22:43 |
infinity | cjwatson: I'll have a stab at it right now. | 22:59 |
infinity | cjwatson: No postinst, contents look sane, looks good to me. | 23:00 |
cjwatson | Yeah, I'd have had to try to get it wrong. I dithered about whether to put dosfslabel in as well, but decided I didn't need it in partman-basicfilesystems. | 23:01 |
infinity | cjwatson: You may regret that decision in a few months. dosfslabel is pretty handy. | 23:02 |
cjwatson | Easy enough to change if we do need it. I don't believe I've ever used it though. | 23:02 |
infinity | cjwatson: (though, in partman, you can sort of assume you're setting labels as a function of formatting filesystems, which mkdosfs does fine on its own) | 23:02 |
cjwatson | Exactly | 23:02 |
cjwatson | In fact it doesn't have a code path for doing otherwise AFAICS | 23:03 |
cjwatson | (It arguably should, but) | 23:03 |
infinity | We use(d) dosfslabel in jasper to hide the uboot VFAT partition. | 23:03 |
infinity | Which, actually, partman-uboot could leverage, if it wasn't a steaming heap. | 23:04 |
infinity | What I can't sort out is why dosfslabel is twice the size of mkdosfs... | 23:06 |
cjwatson | Beats me | 23:07 |
infinity | You'd think one could make it reeeeally tiny, as just a subset of mkdosfs. Or, in fact, a hardlink/symlink that just invokes mkdosfs with a label-changing mode. | 23:07 |
infinity | But whatever. | 23:07 |
infinity | Carefactor: 0. | 23:08 |
cjwatson | I think it links a buttload of objects it doesn't need | 23:08 |
cjwatson | And something doesn't notice | 23:08 |
cjwatson | but yeah, whatever. maybe it's harder because it's reading an existing filesystem as well as writing bits out, and doing an overachieved job of it | 23:08 |
cjwatson | mkdosfs just has to go "yeah, screw you, blat" | 23:09 |
infinity | Heh. | 23:09 |
infinity | Fair point. I imagine writing a FAT is about the easiest filesystem creation there is. | 23:09 |
infinity | And requires zero understanding of how to read it. | 23:09 |
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