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gilbert | hey everybody :) | 04:14 |
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gilbert | Cheri703: we should think about another irc meeting this month | 04:14 |
Cheri703 | yeah | 04:14 |
Cheri703 | did you get my pm? | 04:14 |
gilbert | yeah | 04:14 |
Cheri703 | k | 04:15 |
gilbert | i'll get the election email started | 04:16 |
gilbert | would you mind sending a doodle? | 04:16 |
Unit193 | Don't elect me, and you'll be good. | 04:16 |
Cheri703 | yeah, preferred days? | 04:16 |
gilbert | ok Unit193 ;) | 04:16 |
Unit193 | Though I suppose we should pretend to have a local meetup. | 04:17 |
Unit193 | Oh, Akron area active? | 04:17 |
gilbert | i dunno | 04:19 |
gilbert | reloco activity has been concerningly low lately :( | 04:19 |
Cheri703 | yeah | 04:19 |
Unit193 | LoCos, generally. | 04:20 |
Cheri703 | we could just try to shift focus to having more online activity | 04:20 |
Cheri703 | vs in person | 04:20 |
gilbert | Unit193: you've seen same problems in other states as well? | 04:20 |
Cheri703 | like doing google hangout bug jam vs in person | 04:20 |
Cheri703 | or stuff like that | 04:20 |
gilbert | Cheri703: i really like the online direction | 04:20 |
Unit193 | gilbert: That was the conclusion of someone from another state. yeah | 04:20 |
Cheri703 | that way people can blog it and spread the word in various ways | 04:21 |
gilbert | Unit193: do you know which state that was? | 04:21 |
Cheri703 | and it's easier for folks to pop in | 04:21 |
Cheri703 | I know colorado has similar issues | 04:21 |
skellat | So, we're looking at a meeting? | 04:22 |
gilbert | Cheri703: definately :) | 04:22 |
Unit193 | gilbert: tn. | 04:22 |
Cheri703 | I think focusing on having online events, getting the mailing list more active, the forums, etc would be good. way easier to have a "ohio bug jam day" and post to various local forums (non ubuntu-specific) or g+ or stuff than to mess with driving 2 hours to try to sit in a room and work on a computer :/ | 04:22 |
gilbert | Cheri703: agreed. i think people fell less of a need for real-world interaction anymore | 04:23 |
Cheri703 | yeah, so I think that might be a good topic of discussion at our next "business" meeting | 04:24 |
gilbert | skellat: yep, another irc | 04:24 |
skellat | What's our educational/roundtable/discussion topic preceding the biz meeting? | 04:25 |
Cheri703 | skellat: we can put that part off til next month OR have it as a separate session | 04:25 |
gilbert | who was going to lead that? | 04:26 |
skellat | Cheri703: Well, I'm still unemployed so I've got all the time in the world to prep. Can you put up a Doodle for a Joy Of BeagleBoard session? | 04:26 |
Cheri703 | you can make one too ;) | 04:26 |
Cheri703 | that way you can choose dates/times that work for you | 04:26 |
gilbert | skellat: don't feel constrained. go ahead without council approval :) | 04:26 |
skellat | I kinda want to schedule it near the business meeting, though | 04:27 |
skellat | Maybe day before or day after | 04:27 |
gilbert | i think next week tues, wed, or thurs would be good for the general meeting | 04:28 |
gilbert | like at 7 or 8 | 04:28 |
gilbert | Cheri703: does that time range sound good for the doodle? | 04:28 |
skellat | Hmm...will people be able to tear themselves away from Bones and/or How I Met Your Mother on Monday...let alone Kevin Pereira hosting Let's Ask America? | 04:29 |
Cheri703 | yeah, that works for me. | 04:29 |
gilbert | if not, i'm sure they can multitask ;) | 04:30 |
skellat | :-) | 04:30 |
skellat | See: http://www.letsaskamerica.tv/ | 04:30 |
gilbert | i'm in a weird joy division music phase right now | 04:30 |
gilbert | what channel is that on? | 04:31 |
Cheri703 | link sent | 04:32 |
Cheri703 | and for those here: http://doodle.com/w3aipwvvys79rh3p | 04:32 |
gilbert | thanks Cheri703! | 04:33 |
gilbert | you're awesome :) | 04:33 |
Cheri703 | it's on the forum too | 04:33 |
gilbert | cool | 04:33 |
gilbert | we really need a bridge between ml and forum | 04:33 |
Cheri703 | yeah :s | 04:34 |
Cheri703 | might poke the higher ups about that | 04:34 |
skellat | gilbert: We've asked about that bridge and poked higher ups. Canonical holds the cards on that one as something's up with the software. Heck, openID log-in to the Forum wasn't working last time I tried. | 04:34 |
skellat | Cheri703: Here's link for the educational session: http://doodle.com/99swcya8pp5u2fpe | 04:35 |
Cheri703 | is that supposed to be 11pm and 12am? | 04:35 |
skellat | Yeah. It didn't show up right? | 04:36 |
gilbert | either way those are really really late | 04:36 |
Cheri703 | I mean, if you want to do the session then, go for it, but...just wanted to make sure that was correct | 04:37 |
skellat | Let me delete the midnight one 'cuz that didn't go where I wanted it | 04:37 |
skellat | There we go...I think I fixed it... | 04:39 |
drkokandy | Sorry, just reading the earlier conversation now, but I think the idea of doing online events on G+ hangouts would be a really good idea too! | 04:40 |
Cheri703 | I just think it's the only way to have group activities with >3 people | 04:41 |
drkokandy | might be, especially the way we're all dispersed around the state3 | 04:41 |
Cheri703 | yeah | 04:41 |
drkokandy | *state | 04:41 |
drkokandy | not to end it by drawing attention to it, but this IRC channel seems to be more active lately too | 04:42 |
skellat | Is there an alternative to G+ Hangouts? We've executed a de-Google here and to the extent possible don't use their services. | 04:42 |
Cheri703 | and like if we do "x day" events, then we could have someone just keep the hangout open and folks can hop in and out through the day | 04:42 |
Cheri703 | skellat: if you can find a free, reliable, easy to implement, *buntu friendly group video chat option, please suggest it! | 04:43 |
gilbert | i've never used google hangouts, so i'm really open to any option | 04:43 |
Cheri703 | it's one of few | 04:43 |
skellat | Cheri703: I'll look into it | 04:43 |
gilbert | what are the alternatives? | 04:43 |
skellat | Is Ustream still around? | 04:43 |
Cheri703 | like...none? skype can do group video chat, but iirc you have to pay | 04:43 |
drkokandy | I really don't know anything else that can do that kind of multi-video streaming for free | 04:43 |
Cheri703 | ustream is more broadcasting, not multiple people discussing afaik | 04:43 |
skellat | I've watched the problems with Linux Outlaws have had keeping such working right. G+ Hangouts can go haywire fairly easily too. | 04:44 |
Cheri703 | friend of mine is de-googled, and she basically made an "f***google" account and uses it to video chat... | 04:44 |
Cheri703 | yeah, I'm just saying: we need something that can do the same thing as google hangouts | 04:45 |
gilbert | haha | 04:45 |
Cheri703 | not a broadcast, then it's just someone talking *at* people, not a group thing | 04:45 |
gilbert | are there any free software apps that do that? | 04:45 |
Cheri703 | not afaik | 04:45 |
gilbert | we could always use gobby for text collaboration | 04:46 |
Cheri703 | *action item* skellat: research group video chat options | 04:46 |
Cheri703 | ;) | 04:46 |
Cheri703 | we need more than text | 04:46 |
gilbert | gogo skellat ;) | 04:46 |
drkokandy | well we have the IRC for text "-) | 04:46 |
Cheri703 | we have 3 text options | 04:46 |
gilbert | i know, but its useful | 04:46 |
Cheri703 | mailing list forum irc | 04:46 |
skellat | E-mail me a reminder | 04:46 |
gilbert | we'll text as in collaboratively editing meeting notes/code | 04:46 |
Cheri703 | yeah | 04:46 |
skellat | Gobby...aren't we forgetting lernid? | 04:47 |
gilbert | different workflow than irc chat | 04:47 |
Cheri703 | lernid never got off the ground iirc | 04:47 |
Cheri703 | at least, last time I looked at it | 04:47 |
gilbert | i've never looked into lernid | 04:47 |
gilbert | gobby is dead simple | 04:47 |
drkokandy | oh, mingle | 04:48 |
drkokandy | er whatever it's called | 04:48 |
gilbert | lernid does have some interesting features - view slides in real time | 04:48 |
skellat | gilbert: Problem is that it is hard coded to #ubuntu-classroom | 04:48 |
gilbert | why oh why are all free software video options such a pain | 04:50 |
Cheri703 | YEP | 04:50 |
Cheri703 | hence the googlies | 04:50 |
gilbert | anyone used cheese? | 04:51 |
Cheri703 | that's just like a photo booth thing | 04:51 |
gilbert | oh | 04:51 |
gilbert | nevermind then :( | 04:51 |
Cheri703 | brb | 04:51 |
gilbert | would people working on a bug jam actually want to see video of the other particpants? would an audio chat be sufficient, e.g. via mumble? | 04:53 |
drkokandy | That's it - mumble | 04:53 |
drkokandy | not mingle | 04:53 |
gilbert | i actually already run my own mumble server | 04:54 |
drkokandy | I know a gamer or two who does too | 04:54 |
Cheri703 | mumble might work | 04:54 |
Cheri703 | just have a u-ohio mumble server for general availability too? | 04:54 |
gilbert | i would actually shy away from video | 04:54 |
Cheri703 | might be another option | 04:55 |
Cheri703 | yeah, fair enough | 04:55 |
drkokandy | I wish there were a maybe option for Doodle... I might be able to do 9PM, but I'll probably be late. Should I say yes or no? | 04:55 |
gilbert | yeah, that would be quite useful | 04:55 |
Cheri703 | I do think some things should be video though | 04:55 |
gilbert | drkokandy: we don't have a 9pm option | 04:55 |
Cheri703 | might be for the educational session gilbert | 04:55 |
drkokandy | I'm on the Beagleboard one gilbert | 04:55 |
gilbert | Cheri703: i think video is more useful for things like the educational sessions, rather than collabortive sessions | 04:56 |
gilbert | for those, i would go mumble+gobby | 04:56 |
gilbert | +irc | 04:56 |
Cheri703 | fair enough | 04:56 |
gilbert | ok, sounds like we have a plan | 04:57 |
drkokandy | Or we could even have the presenter do broadcast on Ustream and the rest of us live on mumble and irc | 04:57 |
gilbert | now we just need to wait for the next global jam date | 04:57 |
Cheri703 | heh, we can plan for a release party | 04:57 |
gilbert | we could also have a random ohio jam | 04:58 |
Cheri703 | true | 04:58 |
Cheri703 | might be a nice "welcome to ohio mumble" | 04:58 |
Cheri703 | or something | 04:58 |
gilbert | we do need events to add to our re-application | 04:58 |
Cheri703 | we should make sure to announce the stuff on g+ I know there's probably people IN ohio who don't know about Ohio | 04:58 |
Cheri703 | yeah | 04:58 |
skellat | The educational session will involve at this round a slide deck and a text discussion with a partner taking questions via PM that will be answered | 04:59 |
skellat | That'll mimic #ubuntu-classroom as closely as possible | 04:59 |
gilbert | how are you broadcasting the slide deck? | 04:59 |
gilbert | no audio? | 05:00 |
skellat | Not unless a Mumble server was up and running. Folks attending would have time to download the PDF from a designated site prior to beginning. | 05:00 |
skellat | The text would be paced and questions would be taken via private message to probably stringedluthier who would be separately logged in who could read them to me so I could address them while we continued. | 05:02 |
skellat | If we kept it strictly textual, the transcript plus slide deck could be posted to the wiki in whole at least as part of evidence for the LoCo Council | 05:04 |
Cheri703 | if you wanted, I could talk to the u-classroom people and we could just use that maybe | 05:04 |
skellat | Maybe. User Days are coming up, though, so it may be best to try that set up out of our own resources first | 05:05 |
gilbert | bed time, later | 05:07 |
skellat | Goodnight gilbert | 05:07 |
Cheri703 | just let me know. I can ask pleia2, I have an in ;) | 05:08 |
skellat | Cheri703: Okay | 05:08 |
skellat | I'll shoot for putting an outline together by the afternoon and then I may e-mail it to ya | 05:08 |
* skellat needs to wander off and get ready for bed perhaps as he's fighting the flu | 05:16 | |
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gilbert | hawdy everybody | 22:39 |
skellat | Haldo | 22:40 |
skellat | Today in Mogadishu-on-the-Lake: http://starbeacon.com/local/x1303520707/Drive-by-purse-snatching-at-Wal-Mart-is-investigated-by-sheriff-s-deputies | 22:41 |
Cheri703 | o/ | 22:42 |
paultag | hi-ho | 22:42 |
paultag | skellat: they call that (when done with people typing on Phones in public) "Apple Picking" (iPhones) | 22:43 |
paultag | people will bike down a sidewalk very fast and snatch phones from out of people's hands | 22:43 |
paultag | or on the subway as doors close | 22:43 |
paultag | very common in the city | 22:43 |
skellat | paultag: If I ever get this bloody nominating petition done, the platform may change to simply: "Peace Through Strength" | 22:45 |
paultag | interesting | 22:45 |
paultag | that was on the GOP platform for years | 22:45 |
skellat | I'd like to have more than 2 sheriff's deputies to look after the public safety of 5k people | 22:46 |
paultag | "Peace Through Strength" appeared in the Republican Party platforms of 1980,[14] 1984,[15] 1988,[16] 1992,[17] 1996,[18] 2000,[19] 2008[20] and 2012.[21][22][23][24] | 22:46 |
paultag | [edit] | 22:46 |
paultag | ah yeah, wikipedia agrees | 22:46 |
skellat | So, how are gilbert and Cheri703 today? | 22:50 |
Cheri703 | pretty good | 22:51 |
Cheri703 | going to have the first meeting of my 4 person electronics kit group :) | 22:51 |
skellat | Cool | 22:51 |
Cheri703 | my brother, dad, friend, and I all got the same kit and we're going to work on them together, eventually working up to arduino projects | 22:51 |
skellat | So, what are ya building specifically? | 22:54 |
Cheri703 | nothing in particular, the kit has projects to go through to learn various circuitry stuff and how to use/wire things. we're all novices at the electronics stuff, hence the kit :) it comes with a booklet and also video lessons online | 22:54 |
skellat | Sorry to split guys...gotta get some stuff ready for dinner | 22:56 |
skellat | Chat more later... | 22:56 |
* skellat departs | 22:56 | |
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