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gilberthey everybody :)04:14
gilbertCheri703: we should think about another irc meeting this month04:14
Cheri703yeah04:14
Cheri703did you get my pm?04:14
gilbertyeah04:14
Cheri703k04:15
gilberti'll get the election email started04:16
gilbertwould you mind sending a doodle?04:16
Unit193Don't elect me, and you'll be good.04:16
Cheri703yeah, preferred days?04:16
gilbertok Unit193 ;)04:16
Unit193Though I suppose we should pretend to have a local meetup.04:17
Unit193Oh, Akron area active?04:17
gilberti dunno04:19
gilbertreloco activity has been concerningly low lately :(04:19
Cheri703yeah04:19
Unit193LoCos, generally.04:20
Cheri703we could just try to shift focus to having more online activity04:20
Cheri703vs in person04:20
gilbertUnit193: you've seen same problems in other states as well?04:20
Cheri703like doing google hangout bug jam vs in person04:20
Cheri703or stuff like that04:20
gilbertCheri703: i really like the online direction04:20
Unit193gilbert: That was the conclusion of someone from another state. yeah04:20
Cheri703that way people can blog it and spread the word in various ways04:21
gilbertUnit193: do you know which state that was?04:21
Cheri703and it's easier for folks to pop in04:21
Cheri703I know colorado has similar issues04:21
skellatSo, we're looking at a meeting?04:22
gilbertCheri703: definately :)04:22
Unit193gilbert: tn.04:22
Cheri703I think focusing on having online events, getting the mailing list more active, the forums, etc would be good. way easier to have a "ohio bug jam day" and post to various local forums (non ubuntu-specific) or g+ or stuff than to mess with driving 2 hours to try to sit in a room and work on a computer :/04:22
gilbertCheri703: agreed.  i think people fell less of a need for real-world interaction anymore04:23
Cheri703yeah, so I think that might be a good topic of discussion at our next "business" meeting04:24
gilbertskellat: yep, another irc04:24
skellatWhat's our educational/roundtable/discussion topic preceding the biz meeting?04:25
Cheri703skellat: we can put that part off til next month OR have it as a separate session04:25
gilbertwho was going to lead that?04:26
skellatCheri703: Well, I'm still unemployed so I've got all the time in the world to prep.  Can you put up a Doodle for a Joy Of BeagleBoard session?04:26
Cheri703you can make one too ;)04:26
Cheri703that way you can choose dates/times that work for you04:26
gilbertskellat: don't feel constrained.  go ahead without council approval :)04:26
skellatI kinda want to schedule it near the business meeting, though04:27
skellatMaybe day before or day after04:27
gilberti think next week tues, wed, or thurs would be good for the general meeting04:28
gilbertlike at 7 or 804:28
gilbertCheri703: does that time range sound good for the doodle?04:28
skellatHmm...will people be able to tear themselves away from Bones and/or How I Met Your Mother on Monday...let alone Kevin Pereira hosting Let's Ask America?04:29
Cheri703yeah, that works for me.04:29
gilbertif not, i'm sure they can multitask ;)04:30
skellat:-)04:30
skellatSee: http://www.letsaskamerica.tv/04:30
gilberti'm in a weird joy division music phase right now04:30
gilbertwhat channel is that on?04:31
Cheri703link sent04:32
Cheri703and for those here: http://doodle.com/w3aipwvvys79rh3p04:32
gilbertthanks Cheri703!04:33
gilbertyou're awesome :)04:33
Cheri703it's on the forum too04:33
gilbertcool04:33
gilbertwe really need a bridge between ml and forum04:33
Cheri703yeah :s04:34
Cheri703might poke the higher ups about that04:34
skellatgilbert: We've asked about that bridge and poked higher ups.  Canonical holds the cards on that one as something's up with the software.  Heck, openID log-in to the Forum wasn't working last time I tried.04:34
skellatCheri703: Here's link for the educational session: http://doodle.com/99swcya8pp5u2fpe04:35
Cheri703is that supposed to be 11pm and 12am?04:35
skellatYeah.  It didn't show up right?04:36
gilberteither way those are really really late04:36
Cheri703I mean, if you want to do the session then, go for it, but...just wanted to make sure that was correct04:37
skellatLet me delete the  midnight one 'cuz that didn't go where I wanted it04:37
skellatThere we go...I think I fixed it...04:39
drkokandySorry, just reading the earlier conversation now, but I think the idea of doing online events on G+ hangouts would be a really good idea too!04:40
Cheri703I just think it's the only way to have group activities with >3 people04:41
drkokandymight be, especially the way we're all dispersed around the state304:41
Cheri703yeah04:41
drkokandy*state04:41
drkokandynot to end it by drawing attention to it, but this IRC channel seems to be more active lately too04:42
skellatIs there an alternative to G+ Hangouts?  We've executed a de-Google here and to the extent possible don't use their services.04:42
Cheri703and like if we do "x day" events, then we could have someone just keep the hangout open and folks can hop in and out through the day04:42
Cheri703skellat: if you can find a free, reliable, easy to implement, *buntu friendly group video chat option, please suggest it!04:43
gilberti've never used google hangouts, so i'm really open to any option04:43
Cheri703it's one of few04:43
skellatCheri703: I'll look into it04:43
gilbertwhat are the alternatives?04:43
skellatIs Ustream still around?04:43
Cheri703like...none? skype can do group video chat, but iirc you have to pay04:43
drkokandyI really don't know anything else that can do that kind of multi-video streaming for free04:43
Cheri703ustream is more broadcasting, not multiple people discussing afaik04:43
skellatI've watched the problems with Linux Outlaws have had keeping such working right.  G+ Hangouts can go haywire fairly easily too.04:44
Cheri703friend of mine is de-googled, and she basically made an "f***google" account and uses it to video chat...04:44
Cheri703yeah, I'm just saying: we need something that can do the same thing as google hangouts04:45
gilberthaha04:45
Cheri703not a broadcast, then it's just someone talking *at* people, not a group thing04:45
gilbertare there any free software apps that do that?04:45
Cheri703not afaik04:45
gilbertwe could always use gobby for text collaboration04:46
Cheri703*action item* skellat: research group video chat options04:46
Cheri703;)04:46
Cheri703we need more than text04:46
gilbertgogo skellat ;)04:46
drkokandywell we have the IRC for text "-)04:46
Cheri703we have 3 text options04:46
gilberti know, but its useful04:46
Cheri703mailing list forum irc04:46
skellatE-mail me a reminder04:46
gilbertwe'll text as in collaboratively editing meeting notes/code04:46
Cheri703yeah04:46
skellatGobby...aren't we forgetting lernid?04:47
gilbertdifferent workflow than irc chat04:47
Cheri703lernid never got off the ground iirc04:47
Cheri703at least, last time I looked at it04:47
gilberti've never looked into lernid04:47
gilbertgobby is dead simple04:47
drkokandyoh, mingle04:48
drkokandyer whatever it's called04:48
gilbertlernid does have some interesting features - view slides in real time04:48
skellatgilbert: Problem is that it is hard coded to #ubuntu-classroom04:48
gilbertwhy oh why are all free software video options such a pain04:50
Cheri703YEP04:50
Cheri703hence the googlies04:50
gilbertanyone used cheese?04:51
Cheri703that's just like a photo booth thing04:51
gilbertoh04:51
gilbertnevermind then :(04:51
Cheri703brb04:51
gilbertwould people working on a bug jam actually want to see video of the other particpants?  would an audio chat be sufficient, e.g. via mumble?04:53
drkokandyThat's it - mumble04:53
drkokandynot mingle04:53
gilberti actually already run my own mumble server04:54
drkokandyI know a gamer or two who does too04:54
Cheri703mumble might work04:54
Cheri703just have a u-ohio mumble server for general availability too?04:54
gilberti would actually shy away from video04:54
Cheri703might be another option04:55
Cheri703yeah, fair enough04:55
drkokandyI wish there were a maybe option for Doodle... I might be able to do 9PM, but I'll probably be late. Should I say yes or no?04:55
gilbertyeah, that would be quite useful04:55
Cheri703I do think some things should be video though04:55
gilbertdrkokandy: we don't have a 9pm option04:55
Cheri703might be for the educational session gilbert04:55
drkokandyI'm on the Beagleboard one gilbert04:55
gilbertCheri703: i think video is more useful for things like the educational sessions, rather than collabortive sessions04:56
gilbertfor those, i would go mumble+gobby04:56
gilbert+irc04:56
Cheri703fair enough04:56
gilbertok, sounds like we have a plan04:57
drkokandyOr we could even have the presenter do broadcast on Ustream and the rest of us live on mumble and irc04:57
gilbertnow we just need to wait for the next global jam date04:57
Cheri703heh, we can plan for a release party04:57
gilbertwe could also have a random ohio jam04:58
Cheri703true04:58
Cheri703might be a nice "welcome to ohio mumble"04:58
Cheri703or something04:58
gilbertwe do need events to add to our re-application04:58
Cheri703we should make sure to announce the stuff on g+ I know there's probably people IN ohio who don't know about Ohio04:58
Cheri703yeah04:58
skellatThe educational session will involve at this round a slide deck and a text discussion with a partner taking questions via PM that will be answered04:59
skellatThat'll mimic #ubuntu-classroom as closely as possible04:59
gilberthow are you broadcasting the slide deck?04:59
gilbertno audio?05:00
skellatNot unless a Mumble server was up and running.  Folks attending would have time to download the PDF from a designated site prior to beginning.05:00
skellatThe text would be paced and questions would be taken via private message to probably stringedluthier who would be separately logged in who could read them to me so I could address them while we continued.05:02
skellatIf we kept it strictly textual, the transcript plus slide deck could be posted to the wiki in whole at least as part of evidence for the LoCo Council05:04
Cheri703if you wanted, I could talk to the u-classroom people and we could just use that maybe05:04
skellatMaybe.  User Days are coming up, though, so it may be best to try that set up out of our own resources first05:05
gilbertbed time, later05:07
skellatGoodnight gilbert05:07
Cheri703just let me know. I can ask pleia2, I have an in ;)05:08
skellatCheri703: Okay05:08
skellatI'll shoot for putting an outline together by the afternoon and then I may e-mail it to ya05:08
* skellat needs to wander off and get ready for bed perhaps as he's fighting the flu05:16
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gilberthawdy everybody22:39
skellatHaldo22:40
skellatToday in Mogadishu-on-the-Lake: http://starbeacon.com/local/x1303520707/Drive-by-purse-snatching-at-Wal-Mart-is-investigated-by-sheriff-s-deputies22:41
Cheri703o/22:42
paultaghi-ho22:42
paultagskellat: they call that (when done with people typing on Phones in public) "Apple Picking" (iPhones)22:43
paultagpeople will bike down a sidewalk very fast and snatch phones from out of people's hands22:43
paultagor on the subway as doors close22:43
paultagvery common in the city22:43
skellatpaultag: If I ever get this bloody nominating petition done, the platform may change to simply: "Peace Through Strength"22:45
paultaginteresting22:45
paultagthat was on the GOP platform for years22:45
skellatI'd like to have more than 2 sheriff's deputies to look after the public safety of 5k people22:46
paultag"Peace Through Strength" appeared in the Republican Party platforms of 1980,[14] 1984,[15] 1988,[16] 1992,[17] 1996,[18] 2000,[19] 2008[20] and 2012.[21][22][23][24]22:46
paultag[edit]22:46
paultagah yeah, wikipedia agrees22:46
skellatSo, how are gilbert and Cheri703 today?22:50
Cheri703pretty good22:51
Cheri703going to have the first meeting of my 4 person electronics kit group :)22:51
skellatCool22:51
Cheri703my brother, dad, friend, and I all got the same kit and we're going to work on them together, eventually working up to arduino projects22:51
skellatSo, what are ya building specifically?22:54
Cheri703nothing in particular, the kit has projects to go through to learn various circuitry stuff and how to use/wire things. we're all novices at the electronics stuff, hence the kit :) it comes with a booklet and also video lessons online22:54
skellatSorry to split guys...gotta get some stuff ready for dinner22:56
skellatChat more later...22:56
* skellat departs22:56
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