=== dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM [04:14] hey everybody :) [04:14] Cheri703: we should think about another irc meeting this month [04:14] yeah [04:14] did you get my pm? [04:14] yeah [04:15] k [04:16] i'll get the election email started [04:16] would you mind sending a doodle? [04:16] Don't elect me, and you'll be good. [04:16] yeah, preferred days? [04:16] ok Unit193 ;) [04:17] Though I suppose we should pretend to have a local meetup. [04:17] Oh, Akron area active? [04:19] i dunno [04:19] reloco activity has been concerningly low lately :( [04:19] yeah [04:20] LoCos, generally. [04:20] we could just try to shift focus to having more online activity [04:20] vs in person [04:20] Unit193: you've seen same problems in other states as well? [04:20] like doing google hangout bug jam vs in person [04:20] or stuff like that [04:20] Cheri703: i really like the online direction [04:20] gilbert: That was the conclusion of someone from another state. yeah [04:21] that way people can blog it and spread the word in various ways [04:21] Unit193: do you know which state that was? [04:21] and it's easier for folks to pop in [04:21] I know colorado has similar issues [04:22] So, we're looking at a meeting? [04:22] Cheri703: definately :) [04:22] gilbert: tn. [04:22] I think focusing on having online events, getting the mailing list more active, the forums, etc would be good. way easier to have a "ohio bug jam day" and post to various local forums (non ubuntu-specific) or g+ or stuff than to mess with driving 2 hours to try to sit in a room and work on a computer :/ [04:23] Cheri703: agreed. i think people fell less of a need for real-world interaction anymore [04:24] yeah, so I think that might be a good topic of discussion at our next "business" meeting [04:24] skellat: yep, another irc [04:25] What's our educational/roundtable/discussion topic preceding the biz meeting? [04:25] skellat: we can put that part off til next month OR have it as a separate session [04:26] who was going to lead that? [04:26] Cheri703: Well, I'm still unemployed so I've got all the time in the world to prep. Can you put up a Doodle for a Joy Of BeagleBoard session? [04:26] you can make one too ;) [04:26] that way you can choose dates/times that work for you [04:26] skellat: don't feel constrained. go ahead without council approval :) [04:27] I kinda want to schedule it near the business meeting, though [04:27] Maybe day before or day after [04:28] i think next week tues, wed, or thurs would be good for the general meeting [04:28] like at 7 or 8 [04:28] Cheri703: does that time range sound good for the doodle? [04:29] Hmm...will people be able to tear themselves away from Bones and/or How I Met Your Mother on Monday...let alone Kevin Pereira hosting Let's Ask America? [04:29] yeah, that works for me. [04:30] if not, i'm sure they can multitask ;) [04:30] :-) [04:30] See: http://www.letsaskamerica.tv/ [04:30] i'm in a weird joy division music phase right now [04:31] what channel is that on? [04:32] link sent [04:32] and for those here: http://doodle.com/w3aipwvvys79rh3p [04:33] thanks Cheri703! [04:33] you're awesome :) [04:33] it's on the forum too [04:33] cool [04:33] we really need a bridge between ml and forum [04:34] yeah :s [04:34] might poke the higher ups about that [04:34] gilbert: We've asked about that bridge and poked higher ups. Canonical holds the cards on that one as something's up with the software. Heck, openID log-in to the Forum wasn't working last time I tried. [04:35] Cheri703: Here's link for the educational session: http://doodle.com/99swcya8pp5u2fpe [04:35] is that supposed to be 11pm and 12am? [04:36] Yeah. It didn't show up right? [04:36] either way those are really really late [04:37] I mean, if you want to do the session then, go for it, but...just wanted to make sure that was correct [04:37] Let me delete the midnight one 'cuz that didn't go where I wanted it [04:39] There we go...I think I fixed it... [04:40] Sorry, just reading the earlier conversation now, but I think the idea of doing online events on G+ hangouts would be a really good idea too! [04:41] I just think it's the only way to have group activities with >3 people [04:41] might be, especially the way we're all dispersed around the state3 [04:41] yeah [04:41] *state [04:42] not to end it by drawing attention to it, but this IRC channel seems to be more active lately too [04:42] Is there an alternative to G+ Hangouts? We've executed a de-Google here and to the extent possible don't use their services. [04:42] and like if we do "x day" events, then we could have someone just keep the hangout open and folks can hop in and out through the day [04:43] skellat: if you can find a free, reliable, easy to implement, *buntu friendly group video chat option, please suggest it! [04:43] i've never used google hangouts, so i'm really open to any option [04:43] it's one of few [04:43] Cheri703: I'll look into it [04:43] what are the alternatives? [04:43] Is Ustream still around? [04:43] like...none? skype can do group video chat, but iirc you have to pay [04:43] I really don't know anything else that can do that kind of multi-video streaming for free [04:43] ustream is more broadcasting, not multiple people discussing afaik [04:44] I've watched the problems with Linux Outlaws have had keeping such working right. G+ Hangouts can go haywire fairly easily too. [04:44] friend of mine is de-googled, and she basically made an "f***google" account and uses it to video chat... [04:45] yeah, I'm just saying: we need something that can do the same thing as google hangouts [04:45] haha [04:45] not a broadcast, then it's just someone talking *at* people, not a group thing [04:45] are there any free software apps that do that? [04:45] not afaik [04:46] we could always use gobby for text collaboration [04:46] *action item* skellat: research group video chat options [04:46] ;) [04:46] we need more than text [04:46] gogo skellat ;) [04:46] well we have the IRC for text "-) [04:46] we have 3 text options [04:46] i know, but its useful [04:46] mailing list forum irc [04:46] E-mail me a reminder [04:46] we'll text as in collaboratively editing meeting notes/code [04:46] yeah [04:47] Gobby...aren't we forgetting lernid? [04:47] different workflow than irc chat [04:47] lernid never got off the ground iirc [04:47] at least, last time I looked at it [04:47] i've never looked into lernid [04:47] gobby is dead simple [04:48] oh, mingle [04:48] er whatever it's called [04:48] lernid does have some interesting features - view slides in real time [04:48] gilbert: Problem is that it is hard coded to #ubuntu-classroom [04:50] why oh why are all free software video options such a pain [04:50] YEP [04:50] hence the googlies [04:51] anyone used cheese? [04:51] that's just like a photo booth thing [04:51] oh [04:51] nevermind then :( [04:51] brb [04:53] would people working on a bug jam actually want to see video of the other particpants? would an audio chat be sufficient, e.g. via mumble? [04:53] That's it - mumble [04:53] not mingle [04:54] i actually already run my own mumble server [04:54] I know a gamer or two who does too [04:54] mumble might work [04:54] just have a u-ohio mumble server for general availability too? [04:54] i would actually shy away from video [04:55] might be another option [04:55] yeah, fair enough [04:55] I wish there were a maybe option for Doodle... I might be able to do 9PM, but I'll probably be late. Should I say yes or no? [04:55] yeah, that would be quite useful [04:55] I do think some things should be video though [04:55] drkokandy: we don't have a 9pm option [04:55] might be for the educational session gilbert [04:55] I'm on the Beagleboard one gilbert [04:56] Cheri703: i think video is more useful for things like the educational sessions, rather than collabortive sessions [04:56] for those, i would go mumble+gobby [04:56] +irc [04:56] fair enough [04:57] ok, sounds like we have a plan [04:57] Or we could even have the presenter do broadcast on Ustream and the rest of us live on mumble and irc [04:57] now we just need to wait for the next global jam date [04:57] heh, we can plan for a release party [04:58] we could also have a random ohio jam [04:58] true [04:58] might be a nice "welcome to ohio mumble" [04:58] or something [04:58] we do need events to add to our re-application [04:58] we should make sure to announce the stuff on g+ I know there's probably people IN ohio who don't know about Ohio [04:58] yeah [04:59] The educational session will involve at this round a slide deck and a text discussion with a partner taking questions via PM that will be answered [04:59] That'll mimic #ubuntu-classroom as closely as possible [04:59] how are you broadcasting the slide deck? [05:00] no audio? [05:00] Not unless a Mumble server was up and running. Folks attending would have time to download the PDF from a designated site prior to beginning. [05:02] The text would be paced and questions would be taken via private message to probably stringedluthier who would be separately logged in who could read them to me so I could address them while we continued. [05:04] If we kept it strictly textual, the transcript plus slide deck could be posted to the wiki in whole at least as part of evidence for the LoCo Council [05:04] if you wanted, I could talk to the u-classroom people and we could just use that maybe [05:05] Maybe. User Days are coming up, though, so it may be best to try that set up out of our own resources first [05:07] bed time, later [05:07] Goodnight gilbert [05:08] just let me know. I can ask pleia2, I have an in ;) [05:08] Cheri703: Okay [05:08] I'll shoot for putting an outline together by the afternoon and then I may e-mail it to ya [05:16] * skellat needs to wander off and get ready for bed perhaps as he's fighting the flu === jrgifford_ is now known as jrgifford === dniMretsaM is now known as dniMretsaM_away === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM [22:39] hawdy everybody [22:40] Haldo [22:41] Today in Mogadishu-on-the-Lake: http://starbeacon.com/local/x1303520707/Drive-by-purse-snatching-at-Wal-Mart-is-investigated-by-sheriff-s-deputies [22:42] o/ [22:42] hi-ho [22:43] skellat: they call that (when done with people typing on Phones in public) "Apple Picking" (iPhones) [22:43] people will bike down a sidewalk very fast and snatch phones from out of people's hands [22:43] or on the subway as doors close [22:43] very common in the city [22:45] paultag: If I ever get this bloody nominating petition done, the platform may change to simply: "Peace Through Strength" [22:45] interesting [22:45] that was on the GOP platform for years [22:46] I'd like to have more than 2 sheriff's deputies to look after the public safety of 5k people [22:46] "Peace Through Strength" appeared in the Republican Party platforms of 1980,[14] 1984,[15] 1988,[16] 1992,[17] 1996,[18] 2000,[19] 2008[20] and 2012.[21][22][23][24] [22:46] [edit] [22:46] ah yeah, wikipedia agrees [22:50] So, how are gilbert and Cheri703 today? [22:51] pretty good [22:51] going to have the first meeting of my 4 person electronics kit group :) [22:51] Cool [22:51] my brother, dad, friend, and I all got the same kit and we're going to work on them together, eventually working up to arduino projects [22:54] So, what are ya building specifically? [22:54] nothing in particular, the kit has projects to go through to learn various circuitry stuff and how to use/wire things. we're all novices at the electronics stuff, hence the kit :) it comes with a booklet and also video lessons online [22:56] Sorry to split guys...gotta get some stuff ready for dinner [22:56] Chat more later... [22:56] * skellat departs === jrgifford is now known as Guest89729