[05:27] Goodmorning everyone [05:36] Morning everyone [05:40] morning all [05:40] hi nlsthzn [05:40] nice to have you active again [05:53] hi Squirm you yawning? [05:53] dag mazal barrydk [05:53] yo Banlam bakuman [06:07] good morning [06:07] hi magespawn [06:08] temp and humidity is up here, whats up there? [06:08] still nice and coolish but sun starting to bake [06:09] you over 30 today [06:09] makes it a bit hard to work on pc's when when you dripping on everything [06:09] yip [06:09] get fans [06:09] for that place big ones [06:09] got fan and aircon [06:09] ai [06:10] it helps [06:11] especially if you do not move [06:11] yeah [06:13] kind of hard when you have to work lol [06:13] hahaha [06:13] i hope you saved all the ssh info that time [06:14] looks like i gonna need help maybe later [06:14] server can ssh here but not vice versa [06:15] you can ssh from the server to the desktop but not the reverse? [06:15] yip [06:16] ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.2 port 22: No route to host [06:16] i still gotta try a few commands i think [06:16] think ive sorted the conf thing [06:29] that not route to host means that your pc cannot connect to the server [06:29] check ip address, check firewalls [06:30] see if you can ping it [06:30] isnt that because the server was sshed first so it thinks this is the host now [06:30] nope [06:31] brb , update reboot [06:31] nope not either way today [06:31] last night it could [06:31] lemme see wassup [06:32] actually i need to as well [06:32] lotsa network manager updates today [06:32] wbb [06:32] k [06:37] afternoon all [06:38] That time in the Cape superfly Good morning [06:44] hmm i moved the network card to make it easier to press the lock clip. maybe that pci socket not good [06:44] grrr [06:54] then it would not go either way [06:54] it doesnt ping either way and last night pinged both ways [06:54] sigh [06:55] and i gotta do a few commands before they can ping. iptables stuff [06:55] did you check the ip address [06:56] they worked till i did a reinstall here when unity crashed member and have tried the server since [06:57] havent [06:57] hi Vince-0 [06:57] ifconfig [06:59] must that show something of the server too? [07:01] no it show the ip addy of the machine that you are on [07:01] Hi Kilos ! [07:01] and ubuntu-peeps [07:01] so you need to check both [07:01] hi Vince-0 [07:01] good morning [07:02] oh ya they show right [07:02] hi inetpro [07:02] superfly: it's morning, really [07:02] ohi superfly [07:02] hi inetpro [07:02] inetpro: really? I didn't notice... it's so hot and the sun is high in the sky [07:03] one never knows in capetown with that weather what time of the day it is inetpro [07:03] ai! [07:03] whew we got clouds and wind at least [07:03] Kilos: was it you who took a shot at Squirm? [07:03] because it was not me [07:03] oh ya but missed [07:04] still haven't had rain here [07:04] they say saterday we should get [07:05] at least not so hot any more [07:05] yeah lekker today [07:05] even got a shirt on [07:05] hehe [07:06] yay can ping server from here so far [07:07] yay both ways [07:07] hi jrgns [07:07] morning Kilos, all [07:07] should one run ssh from the server first or from your desktop? [07:09] Kilos: man ssh [07:09] and then [07:09] man sshd [07:10] or the other way around [07:10] eeek [07:11] instant headache [07:11] sshd [-46DdeiqTt] [-b bits] [-C connection_spec] [07:11] [-c host_certificate_file] [-f config_file] [-g login_grace_time] [07:11] [-h host_key_file] [-k key_gen_time] [-o option] [-p port] [-u len] [07:11] Kilos: http://www.openssh.com/faq.html [07:11] ty that might be in english [07:11] Kilos: don't stop reading on the first few lines of a a man page [07:12] ok i got to past first few [07:12] those first few lines are what you typically need as a reminder once you know how to use things [07:12] there's huge lot of detail [07:17] yay i did sudo ssh from here and it did that fingerprint thing which it wouldnt do last night [07:18] only did it from server last night [07:18] and it shows miles@slowP4:~$ [07:18] so i can command that one now [07:21] which machine is the client? the server? [07:23] the client is the machine you ssh from so that depends [07:24] oh [07:24] so this be the client now then [07:26] thanks guys [07:27] was rattled there for a while [07:28] i go sort sheep [07:30] that statement, if taken out of context of Kilos, whould have most ppl asking for an explanation [07:30] especially following on the heals of the last conversation about ssh [07:35] what now? [07:35] the whole 'i go sort sheep' [07:36] rofl [07:37] new comers be going "What?" [07:40] hahaha [07:42] todays task is get ie to tun in wine [07:42] s/tun/run [07:49] eek ie sucks [07:56] yup but need it for this online course i am doing and wife has the other machine [07:56] ai [07:57] one of those things [08:03] hi drussell all good? [08:21] hi henkj [08:22] hi Kilos [08:37] Kilos: don't do sudo ssh! [08:38] that is so wrong! [08:38] uh oh [08:38] how do they then get to fingerprint each other [08:38] why would you even want to do that? [08:39] i dunno? [08:39] ai! [08:39] thought it was part os recognising each other [08:39] of [08:39] but i can go out again not so? [08:39] and come back with ssh plain [08:40] and where does sudo fit in there? [08:40] or is it too late [08:40] when i did ssh i saw no change in $ [08:40] prompt [08:40] ai! [08:40] just ssh username@ipaddress [08:41] ok will do in future [08:41] what damage have i now caused? [08:42] probably nothing, but using sudo runs a command as root which if compromised could cause all sorts of hassels [08:43] if i am not mistaken [08:43] ah [08:43] actually last time i did sudo as well first time then just ssh after [08:44] Kilos: you need to understand what sudo does [08:44] in your case you only ssh to your server but you can ssh to any machine in the world going through the internet which you do not want to sudo [08:44] man sudo [08:44] ok [08:44] so the fingerprint is not necessary [08:45] Kilos: has nothing to do with sudo [08:45] oh ya when i went to your server i didnt use sudo [08:46] oh would the fingerprint have come anyway or arent they needed [08:46] Kilos: man ssh [08:46] ai [08:46] lol [08:46] sjoe [08:47] the two of you with your 'ai' [08:47] rofl [08:49] long time since i have used wine = learning curve (again) [08:56] ai every time i try install stuff on wine i make my pc sicker [09:20] ai twice power went off for a bit and ups disconnected for repairs and investigtion [09:20] im sure they switch it off and on to see if their circuit breakers still work [09:21] swines [09:21] investigation , now that is a nice way of putting it :) [09:22] hehe [09:23] Don't worry electricity prise are going to double in the next 3 years and then the disruptions will also double up [09:23] ai [09:24] for a third world country these peeps steal like first world pros [09:25] brb reboot [09:25] k [09:31] back [09:31] not working here either [09:42] Kilos: it's been hectic [09:42] I hit the off button on 4 alarms this morning and fell asleep right after each one [09:43] yes, I set 5 alarms in the morning to get me up [09:44] wow [09:44] you need a wife to kick you outa bed [09:45] power gone there magespawn [09:45] ? [09:48] Julle stadsjapies kan slaap ne. Is that because the nightlife? [09:48] lol [09:48] hy leer tot laat [09:49] hopelik [09:49] ok might explain [10:23] yay ssh worked without the sudo this time [10:54] no power was fine just mine laptop was unplugged [10:54] ah [10:56] i unplug the power to use the battery [10:56] supposed to be better for the battery [10:58] magespawn: that's only true for older batteries [10:58] yeah the lappy is about 6 years old [10:58] surprised the battery still holds much of a charge then [10:59] about 2 hours [10:59] but does not give any warning really when it goes off [10:59] when you here the beeps you have to be plugging it in or it is gone [11:00] but i was gifted this machine so i do not mind [11:22] I wonder how long mine would last , it's almost 7 years old now [11:22] The battery I mean , when plugging out the power [11:34] brb going to get fish [11:35] k [11:51] so mr superfly hows the family and you? [11:58] Kilos: fine thanks [12:07] good [12:08] Maaz, list plugins [12:08] Kilos: Plugins: admin, calc, conversions, core, eval, factoid, feeds, film, fun, games, geography, google, help, icecast, identity, karma, languages, log, lotto, meetings, memo, memory, network, oeis, quotes, rfc, seen, social, sources, strings, sysadmin, test, urlgrab and urlinfo [12:20] See you guys tommorow Lekke slaap [12:26] hey all [12:26] man is it baking out there today [12:26] lol [12:29] big clouds over Pretoria [12:29] ya but biggish wind too [12:30] never trust the wind to leave the clouds where they can do best [12:30] you wannah back win use brains show them a full screen video on one desktop and another on the 2nd and so on [12:30] s/back/bake [12:31] s/use/user [12:38] look like rain? [12:43] not yet sun out here by me again [12:48] Bye all [12:48] Enjoy the evening [12:59] Kilos: yes! all good here, how's the weather with you now? [13:00] still very dry here drussell weeds are even wilted [13:00] we need lotsa rain here in the tvl [13:01] and the other weed is still tumbling along as well [13:01] drussell: wb [13:01] inetpro: thx [13:01] lol [13:01] Kilos: heh when the weeds are dying, that's when you know things are bad [13:02] yip drussell its been a bad few years [13:02] Kilos: no [13:02] we had good rains this season already [13:02] was just lately that it became a bit dry [13:03] when you have good rains everything grows inetpro and keeps groing [13:03] lol [13:03] good rains are no good with droughts in between [13:03] natal has good rains [13:04] peeps gotta swim now and again [13:08] ello [13:10] hi rorr [13:10] oh my [13:10] roryy, [13:10] hey Kilos [13:10] how goes? [13:11] good ty roryy and you? [13:11] not bad - on leave today and tomorrow [13:11] nice [14:37] hello [14:39] hi bebras [14:39] welcome to ubuntu-za [14:39] lithuania [14:39] yes [14:40] how did you end up here with us [14:40] are you an ubuntu user? [14:41] you are our first lithuania visitor [14:42] had experience with ubuntu [14:43] i am playing with raspberry pi but have different dist on that :) [14:44] ah [14:44] some of the guys here have them as well [14:44] pretty things [14:48] i am searching for areas where people have difficulties with internet connection [14:49] have you got a cure for it? [14:50] we have some problems here especially with mobile broadband and slow internet in general [14:51] to be more specific, I want to solve problem: help people to check email, but have no/limited/slow internet [14:51] ah [14:53] mine solution: send sms text message as soon as important email comes to the inbox [14:53] ah [14:54] nice idea [14:54] smses are expensive in south africa unless one gets sms bundles from the service providers [14:55] you could use something google sms to do it [14:55] then it could come straight from the person own inbox [14:55] oh ya but it doesnt work all over magespawn [14:56] yes, i read that google provide this service in limited list of countries [14:56] true if you could work a way to get selected emails delivered vis sms/mms that would be awesome [14:56] i haven't tried it [14:57] if you are interested: http://bebrapp.appspot.com/ [14:58] it is free beta [14:58] trello sends smses in SA, at almost decent prices [14:59] it should be trivial to setup a ifttt.com recipe to sms certain mails to yourself [14:59] trello itself sends sms? or 3rd part solution? [14:59] trello is an api to send smses and make voice calls [15:00] soz, not trello. wtf. brainfart [15:00] twillio [15:00] http://www.twilio.com/ [15:02] i go get sheep [15:02] lost connection :/ [15:03] i've got to hit the road.. cheers guys [15:04] jrgns: yes, also zapier.com works in a very similar way as ifttt.com and provides free functionality i think [15:05] bebras what language are you using to write the program? [15:06] python [15:06] and for web platform it is google app engine [15:06] cool there are some python programmers here i am busy learning that myself [15:07] thats nice :) [15:07] some of the guys have a lot of experience [15:07] gotta go home time here, later all\ [15:08] ok, latter [16:02] I would be very hesitant to provide my cellnumber to third parties [16:02] but that's just me [16:03] yeah airtime disappears sometimes [17:18] yo Cantide stiff from can cycle? [17:18] nah :p [17:18] i just did 11 km [17:18] lol [17:18] so i am fine :) [17:18] didn't go to gym t his morning though haha [17:19] how are you? [17:19] good ty [17:19] :) [17:51] Good eve! I mean it is a good eve [17:51] or simply that I must be good this eve [17:52] Read the Hobbit lately? [17:52] lo Vince-0 [17:55] watched 3d HFR version last night with new dolby cinema [17:59] :) [18:01] got a G+ hangout on air here that needs testing - waiting for the LUG guys [18:01] no gals :-( [18:41] Evening all [18:41] hi magespawn [18:44] Hey Kilos [18:45] Hey Vince-O hows the hang out? [18:49] Must be good. [18:55] whew magespawn tracepath www.google.com is getting lotsa no replies tonight [18:55] hi theblazehen [18:56] normally i get lotsa ip addies [18:56] only 3 tonight and many no reply [18:58] nslookup gets them all [19:01] i been battling since yesterday with sharing 3g from the server and just found its ufw that was blocking it [19:01] grrrr [19:01] and it was disabled too [19:01] grrr [19:03] Lol [19:03] hi nlsthzn you on the g+ hangout thing too [19:03] Tracepath? Not traceroute? [19:04] leme check [19:05] nope i got the tracepath command saved here [19:05] got lotsa saved commands from the fly and Kerbero [19:05] hi Kerbero wen jy [19:06] i spose the pro and fly on the hangout too [19:06] uh? [19:07] Fo not know tracepath, wonder if there is a difference [19:07] lol it lives [19:07] Got a uh? Not an ai [19:07] thats one from kerby when first did the iptables stuff [19:07] lol ya [19:07] he must be half asleep [19:08] Kerbero ping [19:09] Kilos: sup? [19:09] server can ping www.google.com at last [19:09] Cool Kilos [19:09] ufw was blocking it [19:09] at last? [19:10] 2 days [19:10] so why you be so ... to block it? [19:10] it was disabled [19:11] and? [19:11] i purged it [19:11] and? [19:11] aptitude purge [19:11] now server can go online [19:11] and? [19:11] grrrr [19:12] ai! [19:12] and now no firewall [19:12] and i sukkel to setup that one of the fly [19:12] man ufw [19:12] arno-iptables-firewall [19:12] grrrr [19:12] man iptables [19:13] grrr [19:13] lol [19:13] oinker [19:13] i hate man [19:13] can never understand it [19:13] you must get to know the firewall if you want to use it [19:13] no man [19:13] if you want to play with fire you must be prepared to get burnt [19:14] if i get the right help i save what to do and it works next time [19:14] you can't have your cake and eat it [19:14] that arno looks good but i dunno where to put what in [19:15] i will bake another cake [19:15] ai! [19:15] lol [19:15] twit [19:15] learning the hard way is the right way [19:15] ai! [19:16] now if i install a firewall while server connected online will the fw configure itself correctly? [19:16] answer that at least [19:16] maybe [19:16] you forget i forget [19:16] nee [19:16] ai! [19:17] * inetpro never forgets [19:17] lol [19:17] rofl [19:17] * inetpro has selective memory [19:17]