[00:00] <Slart> i386? they still compile for that? I thought everything was at least 586 by now
[00:00] <escott> Slart, it is
[00:00] <riderplus> OmnipotentEntity cat /var/log/messages | fpaste
[00:00] <Slart> escott: ah.. thanks.. my faith in a proper world order is restored =)
[00:01] <OmnipotentEntity> riderplus, I don't have a /var/log/messages, did you want /var/log/syslog instead?
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> escott: I just got done retrofitting a Gateway 500 SE for Lubuntu 12.10
[00:01] <OmnipotentEntity> or dmesg?
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> and Slart: ^^
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> (Wow I hate typing the 1st name that comes to mind)
[00:02] <riderplus> yes /var/log/syslog and dmesg then
[00:02] <OmnipotentEntity> I don't seem to have fpaste either, what package is that in?
[00:02] <riderplus> sorry it was for fedora
[00:02] <riderplus> i forgot i'm on ubuntu
[00:02] <riderplus> :)
[00:02] <riderplus> go to pastebin.com and paste it there
[00:02] <OmnipotentEntity> I'll just paste bin it ;)  here's my /etc/network/interfaces:
[00:02] <OmnipotentEntity> http://pastebin.com/baJNau68
[00:02] <Slart> SonikkuAmerica: the memories.. amd k6 .. up to 256 mb of ram.. probably had a turbo button as well.. I'm getting off topic now, sorry =)
[00:04] <OmnipotentEntity> riderplus, dmesg: http://pastebin.com/QxajzYSb and tail -1000 syslog: http://pastebin.com/A3ksqt59
[00:04] <riderplus> OmnipotentEntity do you use networkmanager or wicd?
[00:05] <OmnipotentEntity> networkmanager I believe
[00:05] <OmnipotentEntity> I def don't use wicd
[00:07] <riderplus> why are you struggling with ipv6 do you really need it?
[00:07] <OmnipotentEntity> I'm unaware of my doing anything special to get ipv6, my ISP doesn't support it
[00:08] <Ben64> i'm wondering more about br0
[00:08] <OmnipotentEntity> I have this computer set up to act as a wifi access point.
[00:08] <OmnipotentEntity> It's working, but
[00:08] <OmnipotentEntity> it's not something that will come back after a reboot
[00:09] <OmnipotentEntity> which is why I'm fighting networking
[00:09] <Ben64> what?
[00:10] <ryan_turner> I have a new external harddrive that i just formatted using Disks in Ubuntu 12.10. It's formatted to FAT. I have it mounted, and when I try to access it to create/delete/transfer files etc, I get the error "The destination is read only"
[00:11] <riderplus> ryan_turner permission issues
[00:11] <ryan_turner> How do I resolve this permissions issue?
[00:11] <bwong> riderplus yeah its a 64bit...
[00:11] <bwong> riderplus i dont know why its looking for i386 normal.mod...
[00:11] <LarrySteeze> out of curiousity, anyone here attending scale?
[00:11] <riderplus> !chmod | ryan_turner
[00:12] <Ben64> riderplus: that won't work on fat
[00:12] <ryan_turner> riderplus, , I understand file permissions roughtly.
[00:12] <thec4ke>   OmnipotentEntity: does /etc/default/hostapd have RUN_DAEMON set to yes?
[00:12] <ryan_turner> I tried to chmod 077 /media/$me/$drive_name
[00:12] <ryan_turner> no errors, just didnt fix the problem.
[00:12] <ryan_turner> 0777*
[00:12] <Ben64> ryan_turner: chmod doesn't work on fat, do you need it as fat?
[00:12] <OmnipotentEntity> thec4ke, no, not yet.
[00:12] <riderplus> did you also chown -R youruser:youruser /mnt/yourdisk ??
[00:13] <thec4ke> you need to set that to yes to have hostapd started at every boot
[00:13] <escott> ryan_turner, ignore what riderplus is telling you. your disk is FAT it has no permissions
[00:13] <OmnipotentEntity> so just RUN_DAEMON=yes?
[00:13] <thec4ke> yes
[00:13] <bwong> ouch
[00:13] <ryan_turner> Ben64, escott, Im trying to use this as a 2tb external drive to transfer music between ubuntu desktop and mac laptop.
[00:13] <blkadder> ryan_turner: Perhaps it is mounted read only?
[00:13] <escott> ryan_turner, what is the output of "mount"
[00:13] <ryan_turner> NTFS a better options?
[00:13] <OmnipotentEntity> rebooting and seeing if it comes back all nice like
[00:14] <escott> ryan_turner, NTFS is non-POSIX so it has no Linux permissions
[00:14] <francesco_> riderplus: I made the usb, but still when I boot the laptop the usb blinks a few seconda and then I come to Grub rescue
[00:14] <bwong> cant solve this problem please help if available : http://askubuntu.com/questions/169600/fix-grub2-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04
[00:14] <Ben64> ryan_turner: if mac works with ext4 i'd use that, otherwise fat32 is the best for compatibility.
[00:14] <ryan_turner> Output of "mount": http://pastebin.com/smQsDNGj
[00:14] <AN7> does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a rooted android tablet?
[00:14] <ryan_turner> "Relliott" is the drive Im trying to use.
[00:15] <ryan_turner> Ben64, yeah osx does no ext2/3/4
[00:15] <blkadder> vfat...
[00:15] <escott> ryan_turner, the user named "ryan_turner" should be able to write to the folder /media/ryan_turner/Relliott. what is the output of "touch /media/ryan_turner/Relliott/test"
[00:15] <Ben64> ryan_turner: how did you mount it? it should have auto mounted
[00:16] <escott> bwong, boot is 386 mode. it doesn't enter long mode until the kernel starts
[00:16] <escott> bwong, unless you are using efi64 (which you arent)
[00:16] <ryan_turner> Ben64, I formatted it from NTFS to FAT using Disks. It auto mounted after that.
[00:17] <Ben64> ryan_turner: try unmounting it, unplugging it, and plugging it back in
[00:17] <ryan_turner> escott, nada. Just an empty line (aka it worked?)
[00:17] <riderplus> escott about permissions http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/miscellaneous/53527-cant-change-permissions-mounted-fat32-partition.html
[00:17] <escott> ryan_turner, yes it was successful
[00:17] <ryan_turner> And now there is
[00:17] <ryan_turner> -rw-r--r--  1 ryan_turner ryan_turner     0 Jan 16 18:17 test
[00:17] <ryan_turner> so, wth
[00:17] <riderplus> escott it's called "faking permissions"
[00:18] <ryan_turner> but back in the browser (nautilus is it?) I still cant make a directory, for instance
[00:18] <ryan_turner> or make a new doc
[00:18] <Ben64> riderplus: mount options are different than trying to chmod an already mounted fat32 system
[00:18] <escott> riderplus, you instructed him to chmod. there are no permissions to modify
[00:19] <riderplus> escott I didn't notice it was FAT
[00:19] <Ben64> ryan_turner: but you can see the file you just touched from nautilus?
[00:19] <escott> riderplus, the kernel maintains a single static unchangeable umask and owner for the mountpoint and all inodes in the mountpoint
[00:19] <riderplus> that link is helpful though
[00:19] <ryan_turner> Ben64, yes it is now there.
[00:19] <magn3ts> How do I get to the *Actual* network configuration panel instead of what All Settings -> Network gives me?
[00:19] <magn3ts> Since it's broken and miserable and useless
[00:19] <escott> riderplus, its not meant to be critical. i just saw its and cut him off before he went down the wrong path
[00:20] <bwong> solutions? anybody.
[00:20] <Ben64> ryan_turner: what if you right click the test file, and try editing it?
[00:20] <riderplus> escott yes my fault didn't see FAT
[00:20] <escott> bwong, sounds like your grub modules are not where they should be.
[00:20] <escott> bwong, reinstall grub?
[00:20] <ryan_turner> Ben64, opened it gedit, modified, and saved without error.
[00:21] <ryan_turner> Ben64, verified that it took the changes too.
[00:21] <Ben64> ryan_turner: ... then if you try to right click and create a new folder or something?
[00:21] <escott> ryan_turner, if you use another username that is not ryan_turner that user may be unable to modify the disk when ryan_turner was the one who opened it
[00:21] <ryan_turner> Error while copying to "Relliott". The destination is read only.
[00:22] <ryan_turner> escott, I have no other profiles on this computer
[00:22] <Ben64> i still think it's weird that it's mounted as vfat as opposed to fuse
[00:22] <Ben64> my fat32 external drives all come up as fuse
[00:22] <ryan_turner> Ben64, I've not been able to get any of my SD media to work either.
[00:22] <escott> Ben64, vfat is correct and normal? why would it be fuse
[00:22] <Ben64> escott: /dev/sdd1 on /media/94201C92201C7D84 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[00:22] <riderplus> someone edited the /etc/fstab with /dev/sdaX /windows/RW vfat rw,fat=32,umask=000,noexec,quiet 1 1
[00:22] <riderplus> and it worked
[00:22] <ryan_turner> I generally haven't been able to get nautilus to let me edit mounted stuff recently.
[00:23] <escott> Ben64, fuseblk is common for NTFS. is that NTFS or fat?
[00:23] <riderplus> where /windows/RW is the mount point
[00:23] <Ben64> i thought it was fat32....
[00:23] <riderplus> and /dev/sdX is the device
[00:23] <escott> Ben64, there is no reason to use a fuse driver for fat. its in kernel. for exfat or ntfs you might have a fuse driver
[00:23] <Ben64> /dev/sdd1   *          63     8027789     4013863+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT \\\\ my mistake, i must have changed it to ntfs at some point
[00:24] <escott> ryan_turner, what does "ps aux | grep nautilus" say
[00:24] <ryan_turner> I just did a sudo nautilus in terminal and launched it, of course there are no issues using nautilus under root. Any idea why nautilus is not getting the write or delete perm?
[00:24] <riderplus> ryan_turner try to edit /etc/fstab as I told you
[00:24] <escott> ryan_turner, (a) never sudo a gui program, (b) don't sudo nautilus, (c) thats probably what is going on
[00:24] <ryan_turner> escott, http://pastebin.com/ADunDrz9
[00:25] <escott> !gksudo | ryan_turner
[00:25] <riderplus> identify your device, choose a mountpoint and use those mount options
[00:25] <Ben64> why is nautilus running as "1000"
[00:25] <escott> ryan_turner, why is ps aux not printing your username?
[00:25] <blkadder> You have other issues ryan_turner...
[00:25] <ryan_turner> escott, I have no idea.
[00:25] <escott> ryan_turner, can you paste the contents of /etc/passwd please
[00:25] <ryan_turner> blkadder, point me in a direction :)
[00:26] <blkadder> UID to username mapping for one. :-)
[00:26] <Ben64> yeah definitely uid related problem
[00:26] <ryan_turner> Here's my passwd, escott: http://pastebin.com/6QTtCb0A
[00:26] <ryan_turner> e
[00:26] <ryan_turner> err 1000
[00:27] <Ben64> hmm
[00:27] <escott> ryan_turner, 1000 is the correct uid and matches the mount options for the fat disk, but ps should resolve 1000 to ryan_turner
[00:27] <blkadder> >8 char?
[00:27] <escott> ryan_turner, something is going on if it prints the numeric
[00:27] <ryan_turner> hrm
[00:28] <escott> blkadder, perhaps. ryan_turner can you ps aux and see if other usernames (namely root) are printed in the first column
[00:28] <ryan_turner> Ah
[00:28] <blkadder> Shouldn't be an issue but just thinking...
[00:28] <ryan_turner> "if it can be obtained and the field width permits"
[00:28] <ryan_turner> aka my username may be too long for ps to display it.
[00:29] <blkadder> Well do you see other names?
[00:29] <ryan_turner> root
[00:29] <ryan_turner> nobody
[00:29] <ryan_turner> yes :)
[00:29] <blkadder> Ok that's good.
[00:30] <ryan_turner> Errr
[00:30] <ryan_turner> ok
[00:30] <ryan_turner> I can delete files
[00:30] <ryan_turner> I just deleted the test file in nautilus
[00:30] <ryan_turner> but I cant create files or paste files in.
[00:30] <blkadder> But you can from the command line?
[00:31] <ryan_turner> yes.
[00:31] <riderplus> then it's nautilus
[00:31] <escott> ryan_turner, what is your locale
[00:31] <ryan_turner> en_US.UTF-8
[00:32] <ryan_turner> escott, ^^
[00:33] <escott> ryan_turner, yeah i saw... im fresh out of ideas
[00:33] <ryan_turner> damn
[00:33] <ryan_turner> This may or may not be related?
[00:33] <jrib> ryan_turner: press "reload" in nautilus
[00:33] <ryan_turner> about a week ago I rebooted
[00:33] <ryan_turner> display was all whacky
[00:33] <Gerowen> I have a desktop PC that I share with my wife. We have an external hard drive that is formatted in EXT4, and I created a user group that contains both of our usernames and has full permissions to the external drive. The problem is that if I log in first she is unable to browse the drive because even though she has permissions to the it, it gets automatically mounted in /media/marcus/Storage , which only my user account has permi
[00:33] <Gerowen> ssion to view.  Is there a way to change the default mounting location of removable devices from /media/username to just /media?
[00:33] <ryan_turner> and no USB would work once it hit the login screen
[00:33] <ryan_turner> power was still there, but none of the ports were resonsive anymore
[00:33] <escott> ryan_turner, likely  something else
[00:33] <ryan_turner> Did recovery, ended up running off an older kernel
[00:34] <ryan_turner> that resolved the problem
[00:34] <ryan_turner> ok.
[00:34] <blkadder> ryan_turner: Do you have usbmount installed?
[00:34] <ryan_turner> usbmount: command not found
[00:34] <ryan_turner> no idea other than that.
[00:34] <escott> ryan_turner, so naut complains it is read-only. but you could touch a file right now correct? (without removing/replugging the usb disk)
[00:34] <ryan_turner> escott, yep.
[00:34] <ryan_turner> blkadder, no usbmount is not installed.
[00:34] <jrib> Gerowen: huh.  I wonder when that got implemented.
[00:34] <escott> Gerowen, add it to fstab
[00:34] <escott> jrib, 12.10
[00:34] <ryan_turner> jrib, how do I press reload.
[00:35] <jrib> ryan_turner: view -> reload.  Check the menus.
[00:35] <Gerowen> I never noticed it in 12.04, and I was going to add it in /etc/fstab, but I'd like to change that behavior for "all" removable devices so I don't have to worry about it in the future.
[00:35] <ryan_turner> jrib, Ok. Didnt resolve.
[00:35] <escott> Gerowen, "sudo blkid" and find the UUID for the disk, then create an entry like the one for "/" in fstab but with /media/Storage as the mountpoint and the final numbers should both be zero
[00:35] <escott> Gerowen, and of course change the UUID
[00:36] <ryan_turner> blkadder, should i install usbmount?
[00:36] <escott> Gerowen, its a needed security feature when dealing with FAT/NTFS disks
[00:37] <Gerowen> escott: I've formatted in in ext4, but if that's the reason the behavior was implemented it's not the end of the world, I can work around it.
[00:37] <Gerowen> it*
[00:37] <jrib> ryan_turner: so what touch command can you execute ok on the drive to create a file?
[00:37] <ryan_turner> jrib, ryan_turner@ryan-turner-desktop:~$ touch /media/ryan_turner/Relliott/test2
[00:37] <jirido> Hi can i add any flag to: sudo dpkg --get-selections > installed-software, to get a list with only manually installed packages without dependencies or originally installed packages in it?
[00:37] <escott> ryan_turner, you can dmesg | tail just to make sure that nothing funky is going on with the disk, but it sounds like naut is having some weird issues
[00:38] <blkadder> ryan_turner: No.
[00:38] <jrib> jirido: try apt-mark or use the aptitude command that ubottu tells you when you /msg ubottu !clone
[00:38] <ryan_turner> escott, here's the result: http://pastebin.com/qwbhRq2W
[00:39] <jirido> ok
[00:39] <Ben64> ryan_turner: could you use nautilus to create a folder in your home directory, then "ls -ln" it
[00:39] <nybbler> Is it possible to install 12.04, add apps & drivers, & remaster to DVD-R?
[00:39] <escott> !remaster | nybbler
[00:39] <jrib> !uck | nybbler
[00:39] <ryan_turner> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/kuQ9tbMu
[00:40] <Ben64> ryan_turner: i meant so we could see the folder, not the contents
[00:40] <ryan_turner> ok
[00:40] <Ben64> i'm just wondering if nautilus is trying something strange in creating files/folders
[00:40] <ryan_turner> Ben64, drwxrwxr-x   2 1000 1000        4096 Jan 16 18:39 test_naut
[00:41] <Ben64> hmm that looks fine
[00:41] <ErdMutter> Is there a Ubuntu IRC for Macbook Pro owners?
[00:41] <Ben64> ErdMutter: if you're running ubuntu, we don't care which hardware it is on :)
[00:41] <robman> morning all
[00:41] <Lofde_> what command can i run from linux to see all of the processes and memory usage.. i have used it before but my mind has gone blank
[00:42] <ErdMutter> Ben64, I am looking for help with installation.
[00:42] <ryan_turner> Lofde_, top
[00:42] <Ben64> Lofde_: top, htop, atop, ps aux, free -m
[00:42] <jrib> !mac | ErdMutter
[00:42] <Lofde_> ryan_turner, thats it thank you :)
[00:42] <ryan_turner> Lofde_, np!
[00:44] <jrib> ryan_turner: and then when you try to edit /media/ryan_turner/Relliott/test2 with gedit say, what happens?
[00:44] <robman> heya...I got a dumb sys admin question - need to upgrade libcaptcha-recaptcha-perl on a 10.04LTS box but can't seem to find any ppa's - any tips on how to do that easily?
[00:44] <escott> robman, upgrade the OS
[00:44] <robman> har
[00:45] <robman> we will do but not right this second
[00:45] <robman> any other tips
[00:45] <escott> robman, compile from source is your only other option
[00:45] <robman> 8( ok...thnx
[00:46] <ryan_turner> jrib, works fine
[00:46] <ryan_turner> I cant right click and make a new document
[00:46] <jrib> ryan_turner: can you rename the file in nautilus?
[00:46] <ryan_turner> but if I try to edit the touched file, its fine.
[00:46] <ryan_turner> jrib, yes.
[00:47] <ryan_turner> cant copy and paste files in
[00:47] <ryan_turner> cant drag and drop fiels in
[00:47] <ryan_turner> files*
[00:47] <ryan_turner> cant right click create folders or files
[00:47] <jrib> ryan_turner: and you pressed reload while in that directory?
[00:47] <ryan_turner> yep, just did it again
[00:47] <ryan_turner> view -> reload
[00:47] <jrib> ryan_turner: go up a directory and press reload
[00:47] <ryan_turner> ok
[00:47] <ryan_turner> want me to try to edit again?
[00:48] <ryan_turner> err create**
[00:48] <jrib> ryan_turner: yes, try to create a file inside the directory you were in before
[00:48] <ryan_turner> the destination is read-only.
[00:48] <qwiksilver711> using a laptop with nvidia 555m trying to use dual monitor laptop screen with external monitor via hdmi
[00:48] <qwiksilver711> its not  detecting
[00:48] <jrib> ryan_turner: when you right click on the directory, what permissions does it show you?
[00:48] <bean> qwiksilver711: and you have the driver installed?
[00:49] <ryan_turner> Owner ryan_turner folder access create and delete files, file access --
[00:49] <blkadder> ryan_turner: umount /dev/sde1; mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/ryan_turner/Relliott -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000,dmask=0000
[00:49] <ryan_turner> Group ryan_turner folder access none, file access --
[00:49] <ryan_turner> Others folder access none, file access ---
[00:49] <qwiksilver711> bean: yes i do, it caused some resolution issues on the laptop screen but i fixed those
[00:50] <riderplus> blkadder yeah when i suggested that it was of no good
[00:50] <ryan_turner> blkadder, going to try; gotta sudo
[00:50] <blkadder> riderplus: Did he do it?
[00:50] <ryan_turner> mount: mount point /media/ryan_turner/Relliott does not exist
[00:50] <riderplus> he should have done it in the first place
[00:50] <qwiksilver711> any suggestions?
[00:50] <ryan_turner> so mkdir it?
[00:51] <riderplus> yes ryan_turner mkdir
[00:51] <blkadder> Yes.
[00:51] <ryan_turner> as sudo?
[00:51] <ryan_turner> or regular user.
[00:51] <blkadder> sudo
[00:51] <craigbass1976> is there a way to browse through the software repository and sort by keyword, then popularity?
[00:51] <blkadder> We can always change owner/permissions later...
[00:51] <escott> blkadder, udisks will nuke the mountpoint when it is unmounted
[00:51] <craigbass1976> Software Center ^^ sorry
[00:52] <qwiksilver711> using a laptop with nvidia 555m trying to use dual monitor laptop screen with external monitor via hdmi
[00:52] <blkadder> Sorry wasn't sure how he was mounting it...
[00:52] <ryan_turner> blkadder, ok, unmounted and remounted as per your command
[00:52] <blkadder> I am a little old school when it comes to these thing.
[00:52] <ryan_turner> now create folder and document are greyed out in nautilus
[00:52] <ryan_turner> did view->reload
[00:52] <ryan_turner> went back to read only error
[00:53] <blkadder> ryan_turner: please pastebin the output of mount
[00:53] <riderplus> i'd kill nautilus if i were you ^^
[00:53] <blkadder> riderplus: I think I agree.
[00:53] <riderplus> literally
[00:53] <jrib> ryan_turner: out of curiosity, can you create files *anywhere* (for example in your home) using nautilus?
[00:53] <ryan_turner> blkadder, heres mount's output: http://pastebin.com/iADd9C77
[00:53] <riderplus> nautilus -HUP
[00:53] <ryan_turner> jrib, just made a doc in my home./
[00:54] <ryan_turner> no problem
[00:54] <jrib> ryan_turner: ok
[00:54] <ryan_turner> should I -HUP it? :)
[00:54] <ryan_turner> Could not parse arguments: Unknown option -HUP
[00:54] <riderplus> nautilus -q
[00:54] <blkadder> sudo nautilis -q
[00:54] <blkadder> Sorry spelling.
[00:55] <ryan_turner> ok did that
[00:55] <ryan_turner> what now?
[00:55] <blkadder> Well, is stuff still greyed out?
[00:56] <escott> ryan_turner, make sure its dead "ps aux | grep nautilus" then open naut again
[00:56] <ryan_turner> ... I still have a window open
[00:56] <ryan_turner> 3 actually.
[00:56] <escott> ryan_turner, killall nautilus
[00:56] <ryan_turner> pooof :)
[00:56] <blkadder> Yes, you need to kill then restart. :-)
[00:56] <ryan_turner> escott, there are none open now.
[00:56] <ryan_turner> Time to open it back
[00:56] <ryan_turner> Yay!
[00:57] <ryan_turner> It worked!
[00:57] <escott> ryan_turner, laugh in your most evil fashion.
[00:57] <escott> ryan_turner, then reopen nautilus
[00:57] <ryan_turner> So did we just "solve" the problem by just restarting nautilus... lol
[00:57] <ryan_turner> sounds like a windows solution
[00:57] <escott> ryan_turner, it must not have realized the inode for the mountpoint changed?
[00:57] <riderplus> yeah...it's no laughing matter...
[00:58] <Guest87078> oh my penis
[00:58] <Guest87078> its o hard
[00:58] <Guest87078> FUCK ME~!
[00:58] <escott> ryan_turner, in any case when you umount the drive again you need to cleanup and remove the folder you "mkdir"ed
[00:58] <ryan_turner> riderplus, escott, blkadder, jrib, Ben64, thanks much!
[00:58] <riderplus> no worries ^^
[00:59] <blkadder> There is probably sum issue with the notification chain to the app...
[00:59] <blkadder> err some that tis.
[00:59] <blkadder> Crap I can't type today.
[00:59] <Hilikus> is it possible to install a bluray rom and watch HD movies in ubuntu?
[00:59] <Hilikus> directly from the disk, without having to rip anything
[00:59] <francesco_> sorry to bother again. My problem persist. Even if I used live USB creator to create a USB stick with bootable Ubuntu, when I boot my laptop I get only grub rescue. The pen drive blinks, but then nothing happens and then I see grub rescue. Is there a way to change the MBR from grub rescue?
[01:01] <riderplus> francesco_ well, let's put it the stupid way: did you change the boot device order in bios?
[01:01] <escott> !bluray
[01:01] <escott> Hilikus, see ^^^^
[01:01] <escott> francesco_, what is the bios configured to boot first?
[01:02] <francesco_> yes. and I have also another problem. I don't know why, I can't access the bios every time, but the message "press f2 or f12" appears only from time to time, so don't ask me what is the exact order after the USB. I managed once to enter the bios and put the USB as 1st, but I don't remember what was following.
[01:04] <riderplus> now if you have BIOS issues..i'm out of ideas
[01:04] <pepee> is anyone having problems with USB ports, and DVD recorders?
[01:05] <escott> francesco_, you have to make a ritual sacrifice before entering the bios. are you doing that?
[01:05] <riderplus> lol
[01:06] <pepee> I'm getting "exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen" from TWO different DVD burners :/
[01:06] <escott> francesco_, being serious now. they will give you about a nano-second between initializing the keyboard and displaying the post on screen to allow you to hit the key. best bet is to hit is repeatedly and as quickly as possible
[01:07] <dcope> Anyone know why Ubuntu would be reporting the wrong size TV when connected via hdmi?
[01:07] <Hilikus> is there a guide to install win7 so that i don't lose grub/ubuntu?
[01:07] <francesco_> I googled my problem all yesterday and saw that many people can't access their bios in their lenovo laptops
[01:07] <riderplus> i wonder if he has two usb entries like i have in BIOS ...
[01:07] <qwiksilver711> having problems running a second monitor on my laptop with 12.04
[01:07] <pepee> Hilikus, reinstall grub after installing windows
[01:08] <qwiksilver711> am i stuck with bumblebee?
[01:08] <pepee> dcope, that depends on the graphics driver
[01:08] <pepee> qwiksilver711, same as ^
[01:08] <Hilikus> pepee: how can i do that from windows?
[01:08] <pepee> Hilikus, AFAIK you can't, but you can use the same live cd to reinstall grub
[01:09] <dcope> pepee: i'm just using Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[01:09] <dcope> should be pretty standard
[01:09] <passenger> hello
[01:09] <qwiksilver711> I have installed the nvidia driver
[01:10] <pepee> dcope, I'd ask in #intel-gfx
[01:10] <Sylphie> hello passenger
[01:10] <pepee> hi passenger
[01:10] <francesco_> riderplus: I have 2 usb entries in BIOS, but I know which one I put first
[01:10] <qwiksilver711> I assume bumblebee would work?
[01:10] <riderplus> francesco_ yeah I guessed so
[01:11] <riderplus> I'm 60% sure it's hdd usb
[01:11] <pepee> qwiksilver711, try #nvidia
[01:11] <bumblebee> Yeah, I work... :)
[01:11] <pepee> heh
[01:12] <francesco_> riderplus: what I find strange is that I should be able from grub rescue to see the grub file in my pen drive, but I'm not.
[01:12] <escott> dcope, the TV may be lying in the edid information
[01:12] <pepee> dcope, also, run xrandr in the console
[01:13] <riderplus> francesco_ your problem is with the boot device order...you need to set the right USB flash first
[01:13] <riderplus> otherwise it won't boot your USB
[01:13] <riderplus> it shouldn't boot any grub rescue crap
[01:14] <francesco_> riderplus: I'll try to access the bios again and put both usb at the top of the order, followed by dvd and then all the hard disks
[01:14] <francesco_> riderplus: but is there anything I can do from the stupid grub rescue?
[01:14] <riderplus> francesco_ ok try both USB-s and see which one boots up
[01:14] <riderplus> francesco_ no, leave that out
[01:15] <riderplus> francesco_ focus on what you can do
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> Okay guys
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> How do I install ubuntu on a windows laptop
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> dual boot that is
[01:15] <riderplus> one of the USBs must boot francesco_
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> trying to do it for a friends
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> friend*
[01:15] <FloodBot1> BroUnicorn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <riderplus> BroUnicorn insert the Ubuntu disk and follow the instructions
[01:16] <escott> BroUnicorn, well you stick the disk into the CD slot, and you reboot...
[01:16] <blkadder> BroUnicorn: Would you like a pointer to Let me google that for you?
[01:16] <escott> BroUnicorn, maybe some part of this isn't working and you want to ask us a specific question about what is not working?
[01:17] <dcope> pepee: ok, what am i looking for in xrandr?
[01:17] <BroUnicorn> No, just after having issues with it not correctly creating a partition on my computer I want to make sure not to mess up my friends computer
[01:17] <escott> dcope, it will show all the screensizes that have been auto-configured
[01:17] <pepee> dcope, the supported resolutions
[01:17] <BroUnicorn> because he does not have dual boot. He only has windows, so if it messes up windows he loses it
[01:17] <dcope> escott: it claims 1920x1080 is there
[01:17] <riderplus> BroUnicorn you can't mess it up
[01:17] <dcope> escott: but when i use that resolution i can barely see the sidebar on the left
[01:18] <escott> dcope, does it have a * next to the 1080 resolution
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: False, it totally screwed mine up
[01:18] <escott> dcope, thats called overscan
[01:18] <riderplus> BroUnicorn the ubuntu installer is pretty clear on what it does
[01:18] <blkadder> riderplus: You sure you want to throw down the gauntlet like that?
[01:18] <dcope> escott: nope, it has a + next to it. the * is next to 1400x1050
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: Right, until it throws an install error and messes up your partition table
[01:18] <escott> dcope, you might be able to disable overscan correction in the TV itself or you can modify the +h +v in the modeline with xrandr to fix it manually
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: lol I'm just making sure I don't mess it up
[01:18] <riderplus> BroUnicorn that might be your fault, not ubuntu's
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: So I don't have to priorly make sure there is free space that isn't attached to the windows partition?
[01:19] <escott> dcope, then the resolution you are currently using is the 1050. ctrl-alt-+ maybe increases you to the 1080 resolution... i always use the gui
[01:19] <dcope> escott: cool, ill try on the tv
[01:19] <Sylphie> of course, it's never the fault of the too many chefs
[01:19] <riderplus> well, you MUST be sure you have free space
[01:19] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: It says he has free space, but it's attached to his windows partition
[01:19] <BroUnicorn> Do I have to unpartition it from his windows drive first?
[01:20] <blkadder> BroUnicorn: Then you need to repartition.
[01:20] <BroUnicorn> blkadder: See, that's what I was trying to ask lol. How do I do that on a windows?
[01:20] <blkadder> Use a gparted boot disk or something...
[01:20] <riderplus> partition magic
[01:20] <escott> BroUnicorn, you should do the resizing of the windows partition from the livecd or the installer
[01:20] <riderplus> but back up your data
[01:20] <riderplus> if you have any...
[01:20] <BroUnicorn> From the ubuntu livecd?
[01:20] <blkadder> Yes, please backup first.
[01:21] <riderplus> yes you can use the ubuntu livecd
[01:21] <riderplus> just be careful when you repartition
[01:21] <BroUnicorn> How would I repartition his windows from the ubuntu lived? I don't want to mess with the partition table on the advanced options.
[01:21] <BroUnicorn> That's how mine got messed up
[01:22] <qwiksilver711> is there any way to make nvidia optimus cards function with a second monitor
[01:22] <usr13> BroUnicorn: Was your win7?
[01:22] <riderplus> that's why it's better to have at least two partitions...always
[01:22] <BroUnicorn> usr13: Yes
[01:22] <escott> BroUnicorn, you could do the "install alongside" and have ubuntu do it automatically, or you could use the installer gui (which I hate) or you could use gparted in the livecd
[01:22] <usr13> BroUnicorn: How did you mess it up?
[01:23] <BroUnicorn> usr13: The installer threw me an error, but I think it's because all of the memory was either partitioned to windows or osx
[01:23] <BroUnicorn> then it tried to install ubuntu alongside it, threw an error, then popped up the partition table
[01:24] <riderplus> was it windows or osx? that's important
[01:24] <escott> BroUnicorn, the OSX business is going to make things confusing. you should setup the bootcamp for linux from mac
[01:24] <BroUnicorn> escott: So doing the automatic install alongside will automatically repartition it making room on his windows?
[01:24] <usr13> BroUnicorn: Well, just wondering.  I've done it a number of times and haven't had a problem yet.
[01:24] <escott> BroUnicorn, because you probably have a hybrid partition table... and its very possible ubuntu picks the wrong one to mess  with
[01:24] <riderplus> me 2
[01:24] <BroUnicorn> escott: I'm doing this on my friends windows. I've figured out my computer already. So I just need to make sure I'm doing the windows correctly
[01:24] <ae86-drifter> hey there, my system specs are 4GB ddr800, gtx 640 1gb, 2x160GB hdd, quad core cpu(q6600), I was thinking of doing a software raid0, how much of a performance gain will i get for hdd r/w?
[01:24] <BroUnicorn> escott: So on a windows all I have to do is put in the live-cd and let it automatically do its thing?
[01:25] <riderplus> BroUnicorn choose to install ubuntu alongside
[01:25] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: If anyone claims they know, they are most likely confused.
[01:25] <escott> ae86-drifter, a bit less than 2x
[01:25] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: Okay
[01:25] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ software raid, little gain, possibly run slower
[01:25] <riderplus> but it's windows, not osx i hope
[01:25] <escott> BroUnicorn, im confused as to what computer you are talking about. does this have OSX or not?
[01:25] <riderplus> if it's osx you'll screw it up
[01:25] <ae86-drifter> always get mixed answers, lol...
[01:26] <BroUnicorn> escott: It does not. It's a windows.
[01:26] <BroUnicorn> escott: Windows 7 specifically that we want to boot alongside
[01:26] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ with software  raid it's duplicating writes through a controller which will still have the same bandwidth
[01:26] <riderplus> BroUnicorn then you shouldn't have any issues...
[01:26] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: It is largely dependent on the disk, the workloads involved, etc. There isn't one right answer.
[01:26] <blkadder> It is a trick question. :-)
[01:26] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: are you sure about that?
[01:26] <dylan> I need to convert .mkv files to something else like a .mp4.  How do I do that?
[01:27] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: theyre seagate 7,200rpm's
[01:27] <riderplus> dylan find a suitable converter
[01:27] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: You can tell me and it won't help in the slightest. :-) I am just giving you some variables, not an indication I have a clue.
[01:27] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ that's how software raid works, each write the OS wants to do it written multiple times to multiple disks. Problem is, it's using the same diskcontroller and does those multiple writes sequentially
[01:27] <ae86-drifter> my understanding is that it will consume CPU, which is what i am worried about
[01:28] <dylan> riderplus:  Was asking if anyone knew a good one.
[01:28] <riderplus> dylan http://lmgtfy.com/?q=convert+mkv+to+mp4+ubuntu
[01:28] <blkadder> Slyphie: Not RAID-0 (striping) I believe...
[01:28] <MonkeyDust> dylan  ffmpag or avconv
[01:28] <blkadder> Although software raid might be different.
[01:28] <MonkeyDust> dylan  ffmpeg or avconv
[01:28] <escott> Sylphie, are sata controllers not capable of accessing different disks synchronously?
[01:28] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: i think you're thinking of RAID 1 ??
[01:29] <usr13> dylan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50433/how-to-convert-mkv-file-into-mp4-file-losslessly
[01:30] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ which software raid were you thinking of?
[01:31]  * riderplus goes to sleep
[01:31] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: I haven't decided, doing research atm..
[01:31] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Also, are there only two disks in your system? If so doing raid-0 on them is a pretty bad idea unless you are really good about backups and are willing to rebuild everything if you lose a single drive.
[01:31] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: I am leaning towards mdadm...
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: the only thing i am worried about losing in my ssh keys which i have a backup of
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> i don't care about my data, i have enough backups
[01:32] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ hardware raid isn't too hard to buy
[01:32] <escott> Sylphie, really?!
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: get my IT dept to approve it then, lol.
[01:33] <RollinV2> cloud storage
[01:33] <dylan> thanks usr13!
[01:33] <Sylphie> SAS raid controllers can handle SATA drives
[01:33] <escott> Sylphie, i guess technically its not hard to buy them... but they are still crazy expensive
[01:33] <blkadder> LOL
[01:33] <Sylphie> a surplus SAS controller can be relatively affrdable on ebay
[01:34] <blkadder> escott: For sata drives?
[01:34] <blkadder> A number of MBs have raid support built-in these days...
[01:34] <blkadder> And it is anything but expensive.
[01:34] <escott> blkadder, which is not real RAID
[01:34] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: I would if it was my personal machine :) but I'm not going to spend money on this, it was hard enough gettting them to approve a gtx 640
[01:34] <blkadder> Oh that tired argument.
[01:35] <blkadder> Well let's just say that the "fake RAID" provided by such solutions has served me well. :-)
[01:36] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: my motherboard doesn't hence why i wanna use software raid, i have never done software raid, but I have done hardware raid close to 100 times or more.
[01:38] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Understood. I'm just saying that no one is going to be able to tell you what sort of performance improvement (if any) you are going to see. That is something you will have to test for yourself. People may claim to know, and they are generally confused. :-)
[01:39] <Sylphie> thee is a lsi sas controller on ebay right now for 29.95 buy-now
[01:40] <th3pun15h3r> has anyone tried using those ethernet av kits for internet instead of wifi?
[01:41] <rob_p> ethernet av kit?
[01:41] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ sounds interesting, could you describe?
[01:41] <blkadder> You mean powerline?
[01:42] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: yeah okay, i've only ever done RAID1,5 &6, never RAID0 also have never done software RAID, do you think that there will be bottlenecks in the SATA controller or my CPU? i'm thinking CPU as q6600 is a POS
[01:42] <th3pun15h3r> dude q6600 still a good cpu
[01:42] <th3pun15h3r> I use a q6700 still
[01:43] <ae86-drifter> th3pun15h3r: q6600 is rubbish
[01:43] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ so you do mean powerline ethernet
[01:43] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: My understanding of software RAID as it pertains to Linux in general is that the CPU hit is pretty minimal these days.
[01:43] <blkadder> So I wouldn't be overly-concerned about it.
[01:43] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ how would you go about setting that up for outside internet connection?
[01:45] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ so you'd want to connect to the lan-side of her outside connection?
[01:46] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: But I'd seriously consider spending $50 or $100 or whatever and getting a SSD for a boot drive and then striping the spindles. That is most likely going to smoke anything you are going to do with simply RAID-0'ing the two drives you have.
[01:47] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ if so, that's what powerline ethernet is designed for
[01:47] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ yes, that could work
[01:48] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ true. the only way you can tell about line quality is to actually try it
[01:48] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: yeah, i know, lol, my home computer has an ssd boot drive, my manager wont approve it for my work machine
[01:49] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i'm trying for performance for $0
[01:49] <th3pun15h3r> brb
[01:49] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ firber optic from your isp won't help your connection problems between rooms
[01:49] <escott> ae86-drifter, if the choice is between RAID0 and non-raid... RAID0 should be faster
[01:49] <ae86-drifter> was hoping to speak to someone who has done it before on 12.10
[01:49] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Tough boss. You should talk to them about the performance improvements associated with being able to boot and access business-related data faster. :-)
[01:50] <ae86-drifter> escott: yeah, that's correct, but i am worried about it impacting my CPU too much
[01:51] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: I already have a 2nd machine which is an i7, 8gb ram etc, the problem is, it must remain windows 7
[01:51] <ae86-drifter> so i wantto make my linux machine a beast
[01:51] <escott> ae86-drifter, the slower memory performance of a ddr2 system isn't going to help, but you were already facing that
[01:52] <ae86-drifter> escott: I assumed that would be irrelevant to hdd r/w speeds
[01:52] <escott> ae86-drifter, the big problem with RAID0 is having to split/zip those memory blocks as they go on/come off the disk
[01:52] <ae86-drifter> in my case
[01:53]  * th3pun15h3r hates raid
[01:53] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ fiber optic from your isp won't help your connection problems between rooms. But have you considered being a home handyman and laying down a length of normal ethernet cable?
[01:53] <BroUnicorn> Okay guys
[01:53] <BroUnicorn> So I'm trying to install ubuntu on my friends windows
[01:53] <escott> ae86-drifter, the disk is slow enough that the CPU shouldn't have any trouble processing the actual requests
[01:53] <ae86-drifter> okay cool
[01:54] <ae86-drifter> i'm going to do a benchmark before and after software raid on 12.10
[01:54] <BroUnicorn> It came to a menu after clicking install, but the install alongside option wasn't given
[01:54] <ae86-drifter> and hdd benchmark tools recommended?
[01:54] <pi__> Hello, from my raspberry pi
[01:54] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: If I understand you correctly, you are saying the hard drive needs to remain Windows 7. :-)
[01:55] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ a tapemeasure would give you a rough idea
[01:55] <escott> blkadder, on the other machine
[01:55] <blkadder> escott: I understand...
[01:55] <KBentley57> hey guys, in light of the recent Java bug, oracle patched the jre up to version 7u11.  The repos show that ubuntu is on 7u9.  Is there any plans to roll out a java update for Ubuntu any time soon?
[01:56] <escott> ae86-drifter, bonnie++ comes to mind... but thats cause its the only one i can remember
[01:56] <escott> KBentley57, you shouldn't even have Oracle Java from ubuntu anymore
[01:56] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: no, i have 2 pc's one linux , one windows
[01:56] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ the DHS says even 7u11 still has undixed bugs so they aren't unsaying their warning
[01:56] <escott> KBentley57, they arent allowed to distribute oracle java. you must be getting it from a PPA or something
[01:56] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: I understand and my point still stands.
[01:57] <ae86-drifter> escott: I had to use oracle version because the open one kept crashing, lol... I needed it to do my job
[01:57] <KBentley57> escott, Sylphie, perhaps I'm mistaken.  Is the openjdk in ubuntu based on oracle's release, or is it based on something different?
[01:57] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Is the windows machine locked down? Are you prevented from booting from USB, etc.?
[01:57] <escott> KBentley57, the other way around oracle/sun java7 is based on openJDK
[01:58] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ it's the jre package you have to worry about
[01:58] <escott> KBentley57, but it was originally a whiteroom implementation
[01:58] <escott> iirc
[01:58] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: installing linux on that machine is NOT an option, rofl...
[01:58] <KBentley57> Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up.
[01:58] <ae86-drifter> i would potentially lose my job
[01:58] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: I did not say anything about installing Linux on it.
[01:58] <ae86-drifter> i could if i wanted to, but that's beside the point
[01:58] <blkadder> I asked if you are able to boot from USB?
[01:58] <blkadder> Actually it isn't.
[01:58] <xangua>  Sylphie escott so there should be no problems if i use the openjdk plugin for the browser¿
[01:59] <KBentley57> So, the security hole that was introduced somewhere in oracles altering of the openjdk?
[01:59] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: what would i use that machine for then?
[01:59] <escott> BroUnicorn, if you select the "try ubuntu first" option and then run "sudo parted -l" and send that to us it would help
[01:59] <BroUnicorn> Okay, what will that do?
[01:59] <BroUnicorn> escott: Thank you for the response by the way
[01:59] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: yes, they both boot from usb....
[01:59] <Sylphie> xangua \ right now I wouldn't use any java until there is a safe version
[01:59] <blkadder> Boot from USB, enjoy all the power for your Ubuntu needs and point storage to your q6600 machine.
[01:59] <escott> xangua, some of these java vulnerabilities were fundamental API issues was my understanding.
[02:00] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: what are you getting at? i dont understand..
[02:00] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: that is not an option, as i said before, lol...
[02:00] <escott> KBentley57, the reported problems were for java6 which is not a common codebase with openjdk
[02:00] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Do you understand that you can boot from a USB device without touching the disk on a host machine?
[02:01] <KBentley57> escott, I was under the impression that it was java7 that was the culprit
[02:01] <blkadder> Meaning you can use your Windows box to boot Linux without altering anything on the windows box?
[02:01] <escott> KBentley57, but some (not all) of the problems are API issues and would affect any java implementation
[02:01] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ so far there has never been a completely secure version of java
[02:01] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i'm completely aware of that
[02:01] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i'm not an idiot
[02:01] <KBentley57> Understandable, it's impossible to have a completely secure version of any nontrivial software package really
[02:02] <escott> KBentley57, that was my reading about 6 months ago... the new one could be different, my eyes have glazed over WRT java vulns
[02:02] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ it's just that in 7u-whatever, the security holes are too major to ignore
[02:02] <ae86-drifter> there is a such thing as company policies
[02:02] <escott> BroUnicorn, allow us to see how the disk is partition
[02:02] <KBentley57> http://tinyurl.com/cvw6ghy
[02:02] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Then why do you keep referring to "installing Linux" not being an option, given that we aren't discussing installing anything?
[02:03] <ae86-drifter> as i was trying to explain to you before - it is not an option..
[02:03] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: shhh
[02:03] <blkadder> LOL
[02:03] <BroUnicorn> How do I open a terminal on ubuntu on windows?
[02:03] <KBentley57> inside a virtual maching Bronie?
[02:04] <Dammit> question - is there a .exe installer available for ubuntu? i can only find the .iso on the website. thx.
[02:04] <xangua> BroUnicorn: control+alt-t
[02:04] <bumblebee> ctrl+alt+t
[02:04] <pinkpelican> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu onto a computer.
[02:04] <pinkpelican> I'm trying a live USB, but the grub only recognizes the previous Windows installation.
[02:05] <Sylphie> Dammit \ you mean something like wubi?
[02:05] <ae86-drifter> i have a windows PC for a reason, i need to use it, just like i have a linux PC, i have to use it, lol simple as that, not to mention it is against the companies policy and i may get fired for running unauthorized software, let alone another OS, where as with my linux machine i can do whatever i want to. do you understand now?
[02:05] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay, I did that
[02:05] <lee8oi> The E17 desktop is hands down the most fun I've had customizing in a long time.
[02:05] <BroUnicorn> escott: sudo parted -l
[02:05] <Dammit> @sylphie -yes. exactly.
[02:05] <escott> KBentley57, CVE-2013-0422 is a java7 and probably also affects openJDK.. the whole reflection API is just getting torn apart by white hats these days
[02:05] <ae86-drifter> linux doesnt have active directory, exchange etc so i will need windows unfortunaelty
[02:06] <ae86-drifter> for my job
[02:06] <escott> !paste | BroUnicorn
[02:06] <Dammit> the .iso is whre the wubi shouls be
[02:06] <ae86-drifter> they are also on seperate networks, so i would need to also setup some sort of router
[02:06] <KBentley57> escott, what is what it sounded like to me too.   Apparently oracles jre and the openjdk-jre version numbers don't sync, unless the ojdk hasn't been patched up as quickly
[02:07] <escott> KBentley57, it hasn't
[02:07] <Sylphie> Dammit \ the iso is a bit large for slow connections ... :(
[02:07] <escott> KBentley57, thats part of why DHS and the like are saying disable it. Oracle has completely dropped the ball on the updates
[02:07] <blkadder> ae68-drifter: Absolutely! That is all I was asking. I totally get company policy, etc. I was just trying to understand the constraints, as they aren't techincal.
[02:07] <KBentley57> is there a settings panel for the jre in ubuntu?
[02:08] <blkadder> technical even. :-)
[02:08] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ you can actually uninstall the whole jre
[02:08] <Dammit> Sylphie \ I was able to get the iso...I was hoping there would be a simple .exe file. am I looking in the wrong spot for the .exe?
[02:08] <pinkpelican> Oh God XChat can't scroll up
[02:08] <KBentley57> yeah, I know that, but I do have a program which requires java to run, so I'm sort of stuck
[02:08] <escott> BroUnicorn, ie you need to send me what that output was. i need to see it
[02:09] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i appreciate the help
[02:09] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, mouse wheel up
[02:09] <pinkpelican> I don't have a mousewheel!
[02:09] <pinkpelican> Is there a channel where I can receive help installing Ubuntu?
[02:10] <escott> pinkpelican, this channel
[02:10] <BroUnicorn> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1540058/
[02:10] <escott> BroUnicorn, you have 4 partitions already. you have to delete one first
[02:10] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, use page_up key
[02:10] <Sylphie> Dammit \ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: What's the third partition for?
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, one of those is windows, another is windows backup a third i have no idea. the fourth is probably something that the laptop manufacturer created to store drivers and the like
[02:11] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, and also the page down key :)
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: So it's probably safe to delete the third.
[02:11] <pinkpelican> Yes that worked.
[02:11] <Dammit> Sylphie \ heh...that gives me the iso image.
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, i would look at the contents of partition 4 and see if you can remove it
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: Or the third is the livedisc?
[02:11] <Sylphie> oh :) sorry.
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: Even though it contains drivers?
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, the livecd is /dev/sr0
[02:11] <Dammit> no worries : )
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, the drivers are installed by now.
[02:12] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay. So how do I see what's on these partitions?
[02:12] <pinkpelican> I deleted the partition hoping that it would boot from USB
[02:12] <escott> BroUnicorn, open the file browser
[02:12] <pinkpelican> Now a grub prompt comes up that says no partition.
[02:13] <escott> BroUnicorn, match them up by size. sda1 is 209MB (windows boot??), sda2 is 300GB (windows proper), sda3 is 20GB (windows backup?), sda4 is 108MB (OEM drivers?)
[02:13] <Dammit> Sylphie \ thanks anyways...i will work it out with the iso.
[02:13] <pinkpelican> I really just want to shred the partition and restart with an Ubuntu install.
[02:13] <Sylphie> Dammit \ when you insert the disk, the autorun should take over. If you need to see what app the autorun pointed to, type out the autorun.inf file
[02:14] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay so on the file browser says the 104.2MB one is HP Tools containing recycling bin and BIOS boot files
[02:14] <escott> BroUnicorn, the big headache is you probably want to steal space from sda2, but there is no free space adjacent to sda2 unless you remove sda3 which you might or might not want tot
[02:14] <escott> do
[02:14] <Sylphie> Dammit \ so you'r basically almost there
[02:14] <BroUnicorn> I can't figure out which is sad 3
[02:14] <BroUnicorn> sda*
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> There are three Devices showing up on the ubuntu desktop list
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> HP_TOOLS
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> 300 GB Volume
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> and SYSTEM. (sorry for the spacing)
[02:15] <escott> BroUnicorn, HP_TOOLS is sda4, 300GB volume is sda2
[02:16] <Ben64> BroUnicorn: if you type "mount" on a terminal, it will show you what is mounted where
[02:16] <blkadder> That is likely an emergency restore partition.
[02:16] <pinkpelican> I have a live USB and also a Win 7 install cd and the computer won't recognize either.
[02:16] <ae86-drifter> thanks for the help everyone, lol, i'm now closing all applications to benchmark my machine XD
[02:16] <blkadder> :-)
[02:16] <KBentley57> ha, hot damn.  escott Sylphie I just ran apt-get update and behold, a new jre update is available
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: Is sda 3 System?
[02:17] <escott> BroUnicorn, not sure
[02:17] <ae86-drifter> rofl b4 i go
[02:17] <ae86-drifter> lol
[02:17] <escott> BroUnicorn, you can open it in nautilus and then check "mount"
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay. I'm not sure how to figure out either.
[02:17] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ according to the DHS it's not safe yet
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: What's nautilus?
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: I'll do that.
[02:17] <pinkpelican> It says grub loading, error no such partition, grub rescue.
[02:17] <KBentley57> Sylphie, Yes, I'm reading that now
[02:18] <pinkpelican> Is there anything I can do?
[02:18] <escott> KBentley57, at the rate the white hats are finding these the blackhats already have a half-dozen in their pockets
[02:18] <KBentley57> BroUnicorn, nautilus is your file manager
[02:18] <th3pun15h3r> hey anyone have a recommended os to use for a sun microsystem ultra 5? I dont have solaris to install on it...was thinking of checking out bsd or just toss ubuntu on it
[02:18] <BroUnicorn> KBentley57: Okay, how do I open that?
[02:18] <escott> !sparc | th3pun15h3r
[02:18] <DaemonicApathy1> How about Puppy, th3pun15h3r? ;-)
[02:19] <KBentley57> BroUnicorn, are you using the live CD? or are you in a normal desktop.  sorry, I haven't been paying attention to your conversation
[02:19] <escott> th3pun15h3r, also solaris is GPL these days
[02:19] <BroUnicorn> KBentley57: livecd.
[02:19] <KBentley57> click on the picture of the file
[02:19] <KBentley57> or folder I suppose
[02:19] <BroUnicorn> Okay
[02:21] <KBentley57> according to the tech notes,  CVE-2013-0422 was fixed in this update
[02:21] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ if you've got awesome hardware like a sparc, freebsd is well regarded
[02:21] <KBentley57> CVE-2012-3174
[02:23] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ I don't know if you can run jail from linux, but if you could it would make even java safe to use
[02:23] <machicola> if i have an mp3 player connected to my laptop & am viewing its files where would I access these via command line? i'm at /mnt but the dir is empty
[02:24] <escott> machicola, depends on the mp3 player. and removable devices are mounted to /media
[02:24] <pinkpelican> How do I enter the bios on my machine?
[02:24] <escott> pinkpelican, one of the keys on your keyboard
[02:24] <Sylphie> machicola \ the device should come up as /dev/sd-something
[02:24] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, usually f2, or del as it is booting
[02:24] <pinkpelican> escott, how do I know which key?
[02:24] <escott> pinkpelican, usually a function key, sometimes shift or control. it should flash it at you during boot
[02:24] <specious> pinkpelican: hit them all
[02:24] <machicola> ahh, there it is, thankyou
[02:25] <specious> pinkpelican: F1 F2 F10 F12
[02:25] <pinkpelican> It says I can press tab to display bios, but they just flicker on the screen for a second.
[02:25] <escott> pinkpelican, and hit them repeatedly and quickly
[02:25] <machicola> it was in /media under some obscure name
[02:25] <escott> pinkpelican, so reboot and hit tab as many times as you can
[02:25] <specious> pinkpelican: mash that keyboard :)
[02:26] <escott> pinkpelican, finger workout. 40reps, ready 1.2.3.
[02:26] <Lupita> help I just edited my fstab and now I can edit again and I can boot ubuntu. what can i do ?
[02:26] <escott> Lupita, sounds like you can edit your fstab... was there a missing "not" somewhere in that sentence
[02:26] <blkadder> I hate it when I can boot ubuntu.
[02:27] <Sylphie> Lupita \ anything you wish
[02:27] <pinkpelican> Thanks that worked.
[02:27] <pinkpelican> What comman shows the partitions?
[02:27] <pinkpelican> flist?
[02:28] <pinkpelican> something -l
[02:28] <escott> pinkpelican, in the bios? none
[02:28] <escott> pinkpelican, sudo parted -l
[02:28] <pinkpelican> No, in Ubuntu
[02:28] <Sylphie> pinkpelican \ "df"
[02:28] <pinkpelican> Theres' another that shows sda
[02:28] <TrohlGewohl> ERBUNTR!
[02:28] <ctmjr> sudo fdisk -l
[02:28] <escott> pinkpelican, cat /proc/partitions
[02:30] <pinkpelican> Is it fdisk -l
[02:30] <escott> pinkpelican, you should use parted -l over fdisk -l since fdisk cannot read gpt disks
[02:30] <ctmjr> pinkpelican, yes sudo fdisk -l
[02:31] <iFlip> Does anyone know how to setup (HMA)-VPN on DD-WRT? Or a good tutorial site...
[02:32] <blkadder> iFlip: Well, is HMA PPTP or OpenVPN or ?
[02:33] <usr13> iFlip: I've done dd-wrt
[02:34] <usr13> iFlip: just go to dd-wrt.com and look up your router in the database and follow instructions.
[02:35] <usr13> iFlip: You mean, install?  Or using it?
[02:35] <blkadder> HMA seems to have documentation as well... Why/how is that not working for you?
[02:36] <iFlip> usr13 I've tried PPTP and unfortunately OpenVPN is not available as a choice on this v.
[02:37] <iFlip> I have a friend in Germany that needs it setup and I've spent 6 hours total on call trying different setups through TeamViewer with no luck
[02:37] <iFlip> I even followed the WRT setup guide, HMA setup giude and several third party guides.
[02:38] <iFlip> I flashed my e2500 here in the states to see if it had different features and still couldn't get it to work.
[02:38] <blkadder> iFlip: So where does it fail?
[02:39] <JoeyB2> lol, hello
[02:39] <JoeyB2> anyone here?
[02:39] <blkadder> iFlip: And perhaps you should choose a better channel as this has nothing to do with ubuntu...
[02:40] <iFlip> blkadder Here is his setup - T-MOBILE router that connects him to the cloud. On the other side is the WRT router that needs the VPN. Sometimes I get all the PPTP info entered in the fields and reboot the WRT router and goto www.ip2location.com to check if it worked and it still saysy he is in germany
[02:40] <usr13> iFlip: Upgrade to the full featured image
[02:40] <JoeyB2> FYI - to the community in general... if you use tasksel to try to install a LAMP server, DON'T unselect ubuntu-desktop.  Just don't do it!
[02:41] <usr13> iFlip: /join #dd-wrt
[02:41] <iFlip> I thought it was... how do i distinguish between FULL and well not FULL... I thought I was downloading the FULL
[02:41] <usr13> JoeyB2: Having problems?
[02:41] <iFlip> usr13 Point taken - I guess VPN doesn't under networking anymore. ;)
[02:42] <JoeyB2> lol, you could say that!
[02:42] <usr13> iFlip: You can upgrade.
[02:42] <iFlip> usr13 I will try that
[02:42] <iFlip> usr13 I'd rather have OpenVPN anyway for him.
[02:43] <JoeyB2> trying to decide if I should just do a clean install or try to let tasksel reinstall everything before I shutdown
[02:43] <usr13> JoeyB2: What's the problem?
[02:43] <HRB> http://pastebin.com/6a9Zmj5f Magizian WAR Report
[02:44] <JoeyB2> I unselected ubuntu-desktop in tasksel and it uninstalled just about everything.  It finally stopped with it uninstalled aptitude
[02:44] <usr13> JoeyB2: I'm just kind-of curious so don't take this wrong, but why did you install ubuntu-desktop if your intention was just to build a server?
[02:44] <jrib> JoeyB2: yeah tasksel uninstalling was not recommended last time I checked
[02:45] <jrib> !tasksel | JoeyB2
[02:45] <JoeyB2> I unselected it because it was already installed... I didn't think it would uninstall everything
[02:45] <jrib> JoeyB2: can you install it back? :)
[02:46] <usr13> JoeyB2: What ever your problem is, you can more-than-likely fix it.
[02:46] <JoeyB2> I'm trying to reinstall using tasksel, but I think I'm going to have to just do a clean install
[02:46] <usr13> JoeyB2: Why do you need aptitude?
[02:48] <usr13> JoeyB2: Sounds like you may have the right idea; to just start over.
[02:48] <JoeyB2> aptitude is installed as a dependecy with tasksel, so I guess tasksel uses it
[02:48] <JoeyB2> yeah, it's a new install anyway, it just reinstalled, but I'm going to reboot and see what happens.  Grub will probably choke on it.
[02:49] <Sylphie> sometimes it's useful to have a gui on server
[02:49] <JoeyB2> Sylphie, it's my desktop, I wans just installing LAMP for development purposes.
[02:49] <usr13> JoeyB2: Yep, sure is.  (aptitude is a dependency for tasksel)
[02:50] <K350> what to pick: qemu-kvm or virtualbox?
[02:50] <JoeyB2> dang, and I'd just got tmux set up like I like it
[02:51] <Sylphie> there's some server tasks that never seem to work right when the server is the same machine as the client
[02:52] <JoeyB2> Sylphie: I'm doing some Wordpress stuff, just building themes, it works fine for that and that's all I really need it for.
[02:52] <Sylphie> ok
[02:53] <usr13> JoeyB2: Not sure I understand why you need tasksel
[02:53] <Sylphie> there's some money to be made in wordpress themes
[02:54] <JoeyB2> usr13: I was using it to easily install a LAMP server
[02:55] <usr13> JoeyB2: It's been my experience that sometimes when you install applications that configure or install things that you could have done yourself... well they don't always do exactly what you want them to do.  Even if it takes you a little longer, you're sometimes better off doing it on your own.
[02:55] <Sylphie> JoeyB2 \ I've been thinking of trying out a wordpress setup, but I'd prefer postgresql, would that work as well as mysql?
[02:56] <eloi> ?
[02:57] <Sylphie> oh no , gyre is back and someone keeps reseting his.her connection
[02:58] <JoeyB2> usr13: noted!  haha, usually I AM the sort to install the proper way, but this seemed so easy.   Lesson learned.  Everything still works, btw, but I'm going to clean install anyway
[02:59] <JoeyB2> Sylphie: I think there's a plugin for version of Wordpress for postgres, you can try googling it
[02:59] <jrib> JoeyB2: tasksel is the proper way imo, just don't use it to uninstall things because of that bug...
[02:59] <craigbass1976> Anyone had trouble with a latop number pad not behaving as expected?  If numlock is off, I think hitting Shift and 7 (Home) should be highlighting everything from where my cursor is back to the beginning of the line.  I get a 7.
[02:59] <JoeyB2> jrib: That's an AMAZING bug.. reminds me of one ubuntu beta that formatted all attached drives when you installed... ALL of them!
[03:00] <Sylphie> I always found it was easy enough to install apache and some-sql-php from source
[03:00] <jrib> Sylphie: /why/ would you install from source...
[03:00] <JoeyB2> Sylphie is a closet BSD user i bet.
[03:01] <Flannel> craigbass1976: Does it function as [home] if you don't push shift?
[03:01] <Sylphie> when you install from source, you get the options you chose, not the options someone else chose
[03:01] <jrib> Sylphie: you also get to maintain it though
[03:02] <Sylphie> jrin \ but that's no big task is you keep with stable versions
[03:03] <jrib> Sylphie: I suppose if you *need* some custom compiling options you have no choice, but otherwise you need to make sure you stay on top of security issues that come up and patch them yourself whereas with apt someone else worries about that
[03:05] <usr13> JoeyB2: I suppose you should take jrib's word for it, I've never uset tasksel  so....
[03:06] <JoeyB2> yeah, it seems legit, but dang, they should fix that bug PRONTO!
[03:06] <usr13> Sylphie: You can always re-configure to your taste
[03:07] <jrib> usr13, JoeyB2: nothing wrong with not using tasksel to setup lamp either (you can get the exact list of packages to install from ubottu's !lamp factoid), it's just a little quicker (in the sense that you "install" one thing: lamp-server)
[03:07] <craigbass1976> Flannel, yes, which makees it all the more maddening...
[03:08] <Sylphie> out of all the subcomponents, I'd quess php is the one with a need for continuing security vigilance
[03:12] <gueriLLaPunK> I was wondering what cmd or program I can use to make my terminal look "busy" I got a second monitor and want it to look like putty is doing something other than displaying htop. Any suggestions?
[03:13] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: do you want it useful too?
[03:13] <dr_willis> gueriLLaPunK:  colortail -f /var/log/dmesg /var/log/messages
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> Eh. dpesm
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> eh, doesnt have to be
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> -bash: colortail: command not found
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> :(
[03:13] <dr_willis> so install it.....
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> lawl
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> ok
[03:14]  * dr_willis wonders why people have a hard time with that...
[03:14] <dr_willis> theres several log colorizers in the repos ;)
[03:14] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: you might add iftop in there
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> Package colortail is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> is only available from another source
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> E: Package colortail has no installation candidate
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> eeps
[03:15] <dr_willis> !info colortail
[03:15] <Sylphie> there used to some freeware package that would randomly generate technical-looking numbers and stats
[03:15] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: and since you don't need it to be useful, you might try fortune and cowsay...
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks guys! gimmie a minute to look this stuff up
[03:15] <dr_willis> watch  $(fortune | cowsay)
[03:16]  * jrib has a feeling dr_willis has used that before
[03:16] <dr_willis> or  watch df -h
[03:16] <bileday> .
[03:16] <dr_willis> colortail or  the other log colorizers are nice to havce going to keep an eye on things
[03:17] <dr_willis> or put an irc client on the other monitor. ;)
[03:17] <jrib> fetch some stock quotes
[03:17] <gueriLLaPunK> lol i already have xchat on the second monitor
[03:17] <Sylphie> there was also a screensaver that looked like a spreadsheet
[03:17] <dr_willis> or for the really leet try 'bb'
[03:17] <dr_willis> !info bb
[03:18] <gueriLLaPunK> i cant install fortune or colortail. im running 9.10 on this box
[03:18]  * gueriLLaPunK runs away
[03:18] <Sylphie> wow
[03:18] <gueriLLaPunK> and its gonna be a pain in the ass to update
[03:18] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: why?
[03:18] <Sylphie> you might as well reinstall
[03:19] <jrib> one update to a supported release: 10.04
[03:19] <jisawesome> test
[03:19] <jrib> jisawesome: fail
[03:19] <lauratika> ?
[03:19] <dr_willis> 3+1=?
[03:19] <gueriLLaPunK> i have TBs of data on it and since the server is in france and im in cali, its a pain to transfer all that data without forking over some cash
[03:19] <gueriLLaPunK> but you're right. i need to update
[03:19] <dr_willis> just a few TB?
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> yeah
[03:20] <dr_willis> how quaint.
[03:20] <dr_willis> ;P
[03:20] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: well presumably you have backups, so just do the upgrade
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> :P
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> i do no have backups and this data is all personal so its not mission critical.
[03:20] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: you don't lose data during upgrades (unless something goes wrong)
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> its media
[03:20] <dr_willis> gee.. put the output of your backing up commands of your TB;s of data... in the 2nd monitor. ;)
[03:20] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: if you don't have backups then the data is not important and you should just upgrade ;)
[03:21] <gueriLLaPunK> lol jrib
[03:21] <gueriLLaPunK> this is true
[03:21] <Sylphie> everything goes wrong during upgrades
[03:21] <dr_willis> Im cloning a 3TB usb hd to a 2nd one right now... over usb2  ;)
[03:21] <gueriLLaPunK> i think my DC offers a temp USB drive, but it wont be enough. i guess i have to pick and choose what data i want to save.
[03:21] <lauratika> dr_willis how long take sthta?
[03:22] <lauratika> that
[03:22] <Sylphie> gueriLLaPunK; maybe esata would be fast enough
[03:22] <dr_willis> lauratika:  since its on my rasperberry pi... so far.. a few days..  been doing it in batches
[03:22] <gueriLLaPunK> Sylphie, it would  be, but i dont think the datacenter im using offers esata drives.
[03:23] <lauratika> does raspberry runs good  with ubuntu?
[03:23] <dr_willis> lauratika:  it dosent run ubuntu.
[03:23] <Sylphie> gueriLLaPunK; how many terabytes was a few?
[03:24] <gueriLLaPunK> under 3TB
[03:24] <lauratika>  :o
[03:24] <gueriLLaPunK> ok, it looks like i can order a 2x2TB usb drives
[03:25] <gueriLLaPunK> the thing is, once i order it, they cannot (wont) remove the drives, so i dunno if i have to keep paying for them.
[03:25] <izx> I need to configure a Ubuntu server to follow a strict company password policy that specifies the following:
[03:25] <izx> at least one upper case
[03:25] <izx> , one lower case, one digit, one special character.. How do i do that??
[03:26] <dr_willis> yet more idiotic compaly policies.. ;)
[03:26] <jrib> izx: look into pam.  I have no idea of the details, but that's where I would start
[03:26] <escott> izx, i love those kinds of policies... it should be short and memorable so no more than 4 characters total
[03:26] <dr_willis> they started doing that here.. so over night 3000+ people forgot their passwords
[03:26] <JoeyB2> Password1! will be everyone's password within a week
[03:26] <Sylphie> gueriLLaPunK; I would then estimate it would take approx 18 hours to save 3tb to usb2 drives, assuming an effective practical speed of 50mb.sec
[03:27] <dr_willis> I have to have this super complex password for work.. just to enter my overtime... yet my bank lets me get by with a simple password
[03:27] <dr_willis> and uses a 2 part confirmation scheme
[03:27] <escott> dr_willis, didn't you go to my high school
[03:27] <escott> the trojans right?
[03:27] <dr_willis> ive never seen a USB2 Hd get 50mb/sec
[03:28] <dr_willis> escott:  In new castle.
[03:28] <gueriLLaPunK> Sylphie, nice. good thing I have time on my hand. I'm sending a tweet to the provider to get clarification on their USB external drives.
[03:28] <gueriLLaPunK> 9.10 aint cutting it
[03:28] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ with amax theortical speed of 60mb/sec, 50 seemed safe
[03:28] <escott> dr_willis, that helps, now all i need is your mothers maiden name
[03:29] <dr_willis> in england.
[03:29] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:31] <Sylphie> seems odd for someone in CA to use data hosting in france
[03:31] <wikill> spanish # ?
[03:31] <dr_willis> I definatly seem to have slow USB2 hd speeds in ubuntu.  for a simple 2 drive setup  what should transfer speeds be around?
[03:31] <elisa87> Hi, do you know how I can find Eclipse root folder for installing "Eclox"? When using the packaged feature, you must extract the archive content into your eclipse's root location. For additionnal details, please refer to eclipse's user guide.
[03:32] <dr_willis> elisa87:  try locate eclipse
[03:32] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ I was figuring on a single drive setup in two passes, 18 hours to backup and another 18 to restore
[03:32] <jrib> izx: « man pam_unx » search for "obscure".  That seems to do what you want.  You can probably google for example usage
[03:32] <jrib> izx: « man pam_unix » search for "obscure".  That seems to do what you want.  You can probably google for example usage
[03:32] <izx> THankyou jrib
[03:33] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  well ive noticed the rather low end rapberry pi doing anywhere from 1MS/sec to 8MB/Sec (rare)
[03:33] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ that is slow
[03:33] <elisa87> dr_willis I know where eclipse is ... it's in home/mona/.eclipse so basically I don't know where eclipse root location refer to? is it the same as .eclipse ?
[03:33] <qwopuni> I have mysql client and server installed, but if /usr/bin/mysql has been deleted before can anyone tell me how to replace it? (reinstalled packages already)
[03:33] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  both usb hds are on the same hub.. but ive not really noticed the ubutntu box doing much better
[03:33] <dr_willis> elisa87:  i would assume that is the root location
[03:34] <jrib> izx: there's a pretty good post here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156850/setting-minimum-password-requirements
[03:34] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ I used to have an iipod that could do 7.5 mb/sec in hdd mode
[03:35] <izx> jrib: Thanks a lot, exactly what i want
[03:35] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  every so often i see the pi get up to  7mb/sec  but i am transfering a lot of big 1gb files.. so not sure if thats  has an affect on it or not
[03:35] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ might go faster if they weren't both on the same usb hub
[03:36] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  with the pi. thats not really an option. ;)
[03:36] <Sylphie> ok
[03:36] <dr_willis> but ive noticed similer speeds on a normal ubuntu box also with differnt ports
[03:36] <dr_willis> well i gotta run. bbl.
[03:37] <memand> is it the raspberry pi you are talking about?
[03:37] <Sylphie> yes, it was
[03:37] <memand> Sylphie: How was his opinion of it?
[03:38] <Sylphie> I don't know, he wasn't impressed with it's speed in doing backups to usb drives
[03:38] <elisa87> dr_willis I cannot go forward in the first stage (installation of eclox in Ubuntu)! Can you help me what I should do after putting the update files in .eclipse folder?
[03:39] <memand> elisa87: He just left
[03:39] <memand> what is the issue?
[03:39] <memand> Sylphie:
[03:39] <Sylphie> saving to a usb drive he was getting usually 1mb/sec to at most 8mb/sec
[03:40] <memand> Sylphie: Well I'm not surprised, as far as I remember the pi only has 1 usb hub
[03:41] <memand> so to use a mouse and keyboard you have to split it with a powered hub, and those thing are geemerally terrible for speed
[03:41] <memand> *generally
[03:41] <Sylphie> ok. so not much like a full sized machine
[03:42] <pinkpelican> How do I change the resolution of a game? I'm running FTL on a netbook.
[03:42] <memand> well it is what it is, it would probably be faster to do backups over ethernet
[03:43] <Sylphie> memand \ true
[03:43] <memand> pinkpelican: is it a wine game?
[03:47] <lcabreza> need help on pkcs11_listcerts : not detecting my activkey certificate
[03:48] <homecable> whats does EFI/UEFI
[03:48] <homecable> do ?
[03:49] <ikonia> homecable: a little resarch is needed
[03:49] <homecable> i got a new motherboard
[03:50] <homecable> didnt know if its need or for me to disable it
[03:50] <ikonia> homecable: a little resarch is needed
[03:50] <homecable> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EFIBootLoaders
[03:50] <pinkpelican> memand, no it's a game for linux.
[03:53] <memand> Sylphie: I've actually thought about getting one just because they are cool. But I havent found a use for it yet so...
[03:53] <Shiva_> hmm
[03:53] <memand> what did the dr use his for?
[03:54] <dr_willis> Im using my Pi for a znc server ;)
[03:54] <dr_willis> and its backing up some USB hds
[03:55] <memand> That's why you don't do it over ethernet
[03:55] <dr_willis> the network port on the pi shares resoruces with the USB ports..  somehow..
[03:56] <codenomics> seeing as Mint is based on Ubuntu, is it totally frowned upon to ask a question in here that no one can figure out in the Mint channels?
[03:56] <codenomics> about nvidia drivers?
[03:56] <xangua> !mint | codenomics
[03:57] <dr_willis> the main mint channel is not on this server.
[03:57] <codenomics> never said it was.
[03:58] <codenomics> so since it is not supported, although the issue is on both distros, I cant get help?
[03:58] <codenomics> ouch
[03:58] <escott> homecable, its like bios except with more code
[03:58] <aliendude5300> Hi, I have a quick question. I'm currently in a Business Management and Information Systems class in college, and we are working on databases. I have a bunch of database files in Microsoft Access format (accdb), and in order to do my work, I need to be able to open these files and run SQL queries on them, then submit the queries I ran and the resulting database to my professor. I want to be able to do my work in Ubuntu. What would you recom
[03:58] <aliendude5300> mend? I don't want to have to use Access through WINE if it can be avoided.
[03:58] <codenomics> glad to see the linux community sticking together
[03:58] <memand1> Wow my net is unstable right now
[03:58] <codenomics> thanks anyway
[03:58] <dr_willis> given all the tweaks and things mint does... a ubuntu fix may not apply to mint. and visa versa
[04:02] <memand1> dr_willis: did you also just get a msg from some melisa?
[04:02] <dr_willis> saw nomsgs here
[04:02] <dr_willis> shouldi feel left out
[04:03] <memand1> hmm, no it was spam. I've just never seen spam on irc before recently
[04:03] <dr_willis> it happens in here onoccasion.
[04:03] <dr_willis> theres a mode you can set where you can only get msgs from regiestered users
[04:04] <memand1> Nice, I have to check up on that later
[04:04] <mysteriousdarren> aliendude5300: here is wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12
[04:05] <mysteriousdarren> aliendude5300: I dual-boot so I can work on my access crap from work, sorry I can't help more
[04:06] <memand1> I'm thinking maybe it's posible to do it with some sort of pen-testing tool?
[04:07] <ImDoT> hey guys. does anyone how to install the  steam beta on 64bit ?
[04:07] <dr_willis> ImDoT:  the blog site/guides worked here on 64bit
[04:07] <dr_willis> !steam
[04:08] <Celso> Hello ubuntu felows! does someone knows if gstreamer libraries of vaapi is curently working with intel hd3000? some say yes, some say no.
[04:08] <escott> aliendude5300, if you really want to do it from linux there are tools to extract ACCESS to mysql
[04:08] <ImDoT> well. thx for the hints guys
[04:08] <ithinktoomuch> Is lenovo g580 series well supported by ubuntu? I am about to buy it and I see lots of issues on the internet with brightness control and making wired/wireless internet work
[04:09] <escott> aliendude5300, but ACCESS sql varies significantly from other SQLs so you really do need to be using windows to complete your assignments properly
[04:10] <aliendude5300> escott, That's unfortunate, I figured SQL was pretty standardized... we're learning Access and Oracle SQL in the course I'm in, so I figured that wouldn't be too difficult to do in Linux
[04:11] <aliendude5300> What about LibreOffice Base? Would that be compatible with Access? Does anyone have experience using it?
[04:11] <memand1> ithinktoomuch: first hit on google http://blog.peacon.co.uk/ubuntu-12-10-on-the-lenovo-g580-i5-3210m/
[04:12] <escott> aliendude5300, for very simple queries things might work on both, but ACCESS in particular has a piece of junk query parser (in fact it has two piece of junk query parsers) so even standard queries will break it
[04:12] <aliendude5300> ithinktoomuch, I have the Y570 and it works wonderfully under Ubuntu
[04:12] <mysteriousdarren> libreoffice uses odb
[04:13] <ithinktoomuch> @memand1 - that link doesnt work for me
[04:13] <memand1> ithinktoomuch: It says that ubuntu 12.10 should feel like a pig in mud on it
[04:14] <dr_willis> memand1:  very happy? :) and slimey?
[04:15] <ithinktoomuch> @memand1 L I will go for it then! thanks
[04:15] <mysteriousdarren> aliendude5300: http://askubuntu.com/questions/187389/is-it-possible-to-open-a-office-2010-access-files
[04:16] <memand1> dr_willis: Like jelly
[04:16] <memand1> ithinktoomuch: :)
[04:17] <memand1> Why am I memand1 ..... ?
[04:18] <arunkumar413> anyone know how start with qml
[04:19] <memand> dr_willis: Can I ask why you use the pi for usb updates when it only has 1 usb entrance?
[04:20] <dr_willis> memand:  the other pcs were busy
[04:20] <memand> lol
[04:20] <dr_willis> and i wanted to test its stability
[04:20] <dr_willis> coppying hds for 6 days on and off. no crashes
[04:21] <memand> it runs some flavor of arch right? Or is that the beaglebone?
[04:21] <dr_willis> theres differnt disrots for the pi.  using rasbian. sunce theres no ubuntu for the pi
[04:22] <dr_willis> ive heard they work well as a x-terminal setup where you can offload stuff onto the main server but havent rried that yet
[04:22] <dr_willis> they do work decently well as a ssh/terminal box
[04:25] <AntiSol> Hello #ubuntu! :)
[04:25] <AntiSol> I'm seeing a very very strange bug in networkmanager and I'm wondering if a) anybody else can replicate it and b) if anybody has any ideas how I can get around it? How to replicate: 1) open nm-connection-editor 2) select a network connection and hit 'edit' 3) change the name (just to confirm that your keyboard works) 4) go to the 'IPv4 settings' tab 5) choose 'manual' in the 'method' dropdown. 6) observe that a message " WARNING **: Inv
[04:25] <AntiSol> alid setting IPv4 Settings: addresses" has been spat out at the terminal, and that this form no longer accepts keyboard input.
[04:25] <FloodBot1> AntiSol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <memand> It sounds like stability wise you could easily (is that how it's spelled?) use it to ssh in and wake other pc's on lan and then control the more powerfull stuff through it dr_willis
[04:26] <dr_willis> memand:  the other pc had all its usb ports in use  ;) i bought a usb3 card for it. and it dident fit. ;p
[04:26] <dr_willis> cloning a 3tb usb to a 2nd 3TB usb seemed like a good test
[04:26] <zhig> Äîáðûé äåíü!
[04:26] <zhig> ãäå ðóññêèé êàíàë ïðî ubuntu&
[04:26] <dr_willis> not reallyu a clone.. im ssh;d into the pi and ccopying stuff over and removeing extra duplicated files also
[04:27] <gitesh> Hi
[04:27] <titanix> anyone has any experience with x2goclient and enlightenment??
[04:27] <memand> but it must have taken forever
[04:27] <dr_willis> memand:  it still is. ;)  but im consoladateing some drives onto a bigger hd also.
[04:28] <dr_willis> moving 3  1TB usbs onto a 3TB usb. and removeing dupliacates ive got stuck in sub dirs and so forth
[04:28] <dr_willis> i really need to figure out one of those find duplicate files tools
[04:29] <memand> dr_willis: I wonder if anyone has ever made a usb hub you can just put on ethernet and access
[04:29] <dr_willis> just now i found 3gb of files in side a identical directory..  foo was also in foo/foo
[04:29] <escott> dr_willis, /usr/share/fslint/fslint/findup -m /paths/go/here
[04:29] <dr_willis> Not seen a Hub that way. i do have some  cheap USB NAS's but they are usb2 so would be as slow i imagine
[04:30] <dr_willis> i remmber back in the days thinking usb2 was fast. ;)
[04:31] <yeehi> Just installed Gnome. I know wireless card works ok with free software and the wireless router signal is ok. I cannot reach internet. NetworkManger.conf has be set to managed=true and restarted. It says wireless is unavailable in network manager gnome. Aeroplane mode is off. Wireless is set to on. No wireless networks have been detected. How can I get to the internet?
[04:31] <memand> dr_willis: that was back when a 100GB hdd was equakky amasing
[04:32] <memand> yeehi: are you sure that you have the propper drivers?
[04:33] <dr_willis> memand:  and now we are back to 100GB Hds only they are SSD's :)
[04:33] <yeehi> i know this wireless card works ok with free software / shouldn't need drivers, memand, - it works with Trisquel, the fully free version of Ubuntu
[04:33] <vasvas> Äîáðûé äåíü!
[04:33] <vasvas> íóæíà ïîìîùü
[04:33] <memand> dr_willis: and cost the same as the bussines end of a stinger missile
[04:34] <memand> vasvas: ?????????????????????
[04:34] <gitesh> How do I install lampp on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?.  I don't have localhost. I just 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server. But while ' sudo service lampp restart' ==> lampp: unrecognized service
[04:34] <vasvas> i am from russia
[04:36] <vasvas> where a channel about ubuntu in Russian?
[04:36] <memand> yeehi: I actually havent used ubuntu for a while now, so I don't remember which network manager is used. but try netcfg-menu in terminal
[04:36] <memand> !ru
[04:37] <replica> how do i remove this bug ?Ubuntu 12.10-waiting to mount /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 in /etc/fstab at startup
[04:38] <replica> any1 can help me out on tht one
[04:38] <dr_willis> yeehi:  it may be a good idea to figure out wht module its using.
[04:39] <dr_willis> replica:  i seem to recall somein here the other day just commenting out the line in fstab. Im not sure why/how they had swap  enrypted but it wasent..
[04:39] <dr_willis> or the ystem thought they did.. and they dident.
[04:39] <vasvas> ñïàñèáî íî ïî÷åìó òî íå ìîãó ïèñàòü â îáùåì ÷àòå
[04:39] <vasvas> thanks but why I can not write in the general chat
[04:40] <replica> what if i remve crpytswap
[04:40] <replica> ?
[04:40] <replica> will tht work
[04:40] <replica> ?
[04:40] <FloodBot1> replica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <memand> vasvas: maybe you need to be registered
[04:40] <dr_willis> replica:  no  idea. I just recall the guy having a simile rissue last week. you could search the logs.
[04:40] <dr_willis> i dont see much point in encrypting swap
[04:41] <memand> vasvas: write /msg nickserv register
[04:41] <escott> replica, without an encrypted swap the encrypted home will leak plaintext to the swap
[04:41] <replica> :O
[04:42] <replica> but wats the point whn my encrypt dosnt work escott ?
[04:42] <arunkumar413> how to do a middle click on a touchpad on ubuntu
[04:42] <replica> i can remove it tho rather thn facing those problemd
[04:42] <dr_willis> arunkumar413:  try both buttons at the same time
[04:42] <escott> replica, did you disable encrypted home?
[04:42] <replica> how do i do tht ?
[04:43] <arunkumar413> dr_willis: can i assign a particular area on touch pad for a middle click
[04:43] <replica> escott -> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap nobootwait 0 0
[04:44] <escott> replica, which was setup for you when you clicked the "encrypt my home directory" option during install
[04:44] <replica> it dosnt help
[04:44] <memand> arunkumar413: do you have a synaptics?
[04:44] <vasvas> exactly how to register?
[04:44] <escott> !register | vasvas
[04:44] <replica> :| i forgot ? can u help me out escott
[04:45] <escott> replica, i have no idea what you are asking
[04:45] <arunkumar413> memand: synaptic packagemanager?
[04:45] <crus`> Hi guys, Is there anyway i can confirm that the iptables package in Ubuntu 12.04 has been compiled with TPROXY support?
[04:45] <vasvas> ÿ ñ windows âûõîæó
[04:45] <vasvas> I'm out windows
[04:45] <excesseye> !register excesseye
[04:46] <memand> arunkumar413: no synaptics touthpad, do xinout in terminal
[04:46] <memand> arunkumar413: xinput
[04:46] <arunkumar413> memand: yes
[04:47] <memand> what do you see under Virtual core pointer?
[04:47] <arunkumar413> memand: Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
[04:47] <arunkumar413> ⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[04:47] <arunkumar413> ⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[04:47] <replica> escott could not mount /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 during the startup
[04:48] <replica> tht is wat i am asking
[04:48] <usr13>  crus` https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/iptables/+changelog
[04:48] <replica> it says s to skip mounting and m for mannual recovery
[04:48] <sup-b> hello all! anyone here have experience running a playstation emulator on ubuntu 12.10?
[04:49] <escott> replica, and you asked if removing that would break things. to which i answered: "the reason swap is encrypted is because otherwise the kernel can place plaintext pages from the encrypted home onto the swap disk, thereby leaking plaintext"
[04:49] <escott> replica, you were the one who selected the encrypted home, you are the one who must decide if that risk is acceptable. im just telling you what the risk is
[04:50] <crus`> usr13: that doesn't have the compile time options used?
[04:50] <arunkumar413> memand: r u there
[04:51] <usr13> crus`: That doesn't tell us much...
[04:51] <memand> arunkumar413: can you do xinput |& curl -F 'sprunge=<' http://sprunge.us
[04:51] <memand> arunkumar413: can you do xinput |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:51] <memand> arunkumar413: the second one
[04:52] <memand> arunkumar413: then send me the link it gives you
[04:53] <arunkumar413> memand: http://sprunge.us/DaAW
[04:54] <yeehi> dr_willis, how do i find out the module?
[04:55] <memand> arunkumar413: xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:55] <arunkumar413> memand:  http://sprunge.us/CABi
[04:56] <usr13> crus`: It's in the man file.
[04:57] <usr13> crus`: See my PM
[04:57] <Sail> unable to install emerald package in ubuntu ?
[04:57] <memand> arunkumar413: xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" | grep Capabilities |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:58] <arunkumar413> memand: http://sprunge.us/BEMW
[04:59] <memand> arunkumar413: just a sec...
[04:59] <Sail> unable to install emerald package in ubuntu ?
[05:00] <Guest16925> "gnome-control-center sound" is giving me a segmentation fault
[05:00] <somsip> !details | Sail
[05:01] <Guest16925> I am running ubuntu 12.10 32 bit desktop
[05:02] <Sail> somsip: http://dpaste.com/hold/880190/
[05:02] <memand> arunkumar413: ok, i think we can set it up so you can use tree finger touch to middle click
[05:02] <Sail> i hav latest ubuntu12.1 install
[05:02] <memand> arunkumar413: synclient - |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[05:03] <memand> sry
[05:03] <aod_> beep
[05:03] <aod_> bop
[05:03] <aod_> boop
[05:03] <memand> arunkumar413: synclient -l |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[05:03] <aod_> beep
[05:03] <FloodBot1> aod_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <usr13> Sail: Are you using a guide somewhere?
[05:03] <dr_willis> !emerald | sail
[05:03] <somsip> !info emerald
[05:03] <aod_> any cool themes?
[05:03] <dr_willis> Best to avoid emerald
[05:03] <arunkumar413> memand:  http://sprunge.us/jLEi
[05:04] <Sail> is there any way to add-repository for emerald
[05:04] <somsip> Sail: so...you need to look at a PPA or something like http://handytutorial.com/install-emerald-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
[05:04] <Guest16925> I am running ubuntu 12.10 32 bit desktop  "gnome-control-center sound" is giving me a segmentation fault
[05:04] <dr_willis> Sail:  use the various ppa serch sites.. but i doubt if anyone is maintaining emerald for 12.10
[05:04] <usr13> Sail: Are you on Ubuntu 12.10?
[05:04] <arunkumar413> memand: i want to assign the top right corner of the touchpad for middle click
[05:05] <usr13> Sail: http://handytutorial.com/install-emerald-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
[05:05] <Soe1en> hello, I have a problem with my backupsystem
[05:05] <Sail> usr13: yup 12.1 thanx i will try
[05:06] <Sail> somsip: thanx will let u know when i implement this
[05:06] <usr13> Sail: It's 12.10 not 12.1
[05:06] <usr13> Sail: Ok, good luck.
[05:06] <aod_> how do you check if your on 12.4 or 12.10
[05:06] <dr_willis> !version
[05:06] <aod_> thanks!
[05:06] <usr13> aod_: lsb_release -a
[05:07] <memand> arunkumar413: just give me a sec, I'm not gone...
[05:07] <Soe1en> I create a backup with "tar cfz" -> my file which got backuped is named "geschäftsplan.odt", but in the backup the filename got all scrambled: "gesch├ñftsplan.odt"
[05:07] <arunkumar413> memand: ok, i'll wait for you. take your time
[05:08] <gitesh> How to solve this ==> 'sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040777), should be mode 0700'
[05:08] <Soe1en> I dont see the reason for this, looks like an utf-8 issue to me but I dont know where this happened, anyone made the same experience?
[05:11]  * Onixs ["Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/"]
[05:12] <memand> arunkumar413: what happens if you tap the top right corner now?
[05:12] <frewsxcv> why am i unable to ping my desktop's host name (same subnet), but pinging their ip is fine
[05:14] <arunkumar413> memand: i clicked the link in browser, its opening in new taop
[05:14] <arunkumar413> tab
[05:14] <arunkumar413> memand: how did u do that
[05:15] <memand> it was allready set up...
[05:15] <dr_willis> frewsxcv:  its always worked tbat way for me..  in the past ive set up /etc/hosts file to map hostname and ip3
[05:18] <memand> arunkumar413: is there anything else you would like to do with your mouse now that we are at it?
[05:18] <arunkumar413> as of now that's it, but please let me  know how did u do that
[05:19] <arunkumar413> memand: if i draw an arc or circle the image should rotate
[05:20] <memand> arunkumar413: I did nothing, it was allready set up. But you can read about settin up synaptics touchpads here, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration_on_the_fly
[05:26] <BroUnicorn> Deleted ubuntu partition
[05:27] <BroUnicorn> trying to start computer and error comes up
[05:27] <BroUnicorn> error: no such partition
[05:27] <BroUnicorn> grub rescue>
[05:27] <Sail_> in my menu system contain no preferences and administartion icon?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, this in still on the mac?
[05:28] <memand> is there a command that I can use to sound the computers bell
[05:28] <memand> ?
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: No, this is on a friends windows
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: was installing ubuntu. Had an error, so I had to delete the partition.
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> Now I can't get through to his windows.
[05:28] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, ok ... wait, WINDOWS?  so you installed via the windows installer?
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> The partition table isn't messed up
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> yeah
[05:29] <BroUnicorn> I could get into windows a few minutes ago, as the menu showed up at the beginning, but it wouldn't load into ubuntu
[05:29] <memand> windows installer is sheite no offence...
[05:29] <BroUnicorn> so I'm going back onto the ubuntu livedisc
[05:29] <BroUnicorn> so how can I fix this?
[05:30] <BroUnicorn> I think it's still trying to load the partition that I deleted and I just need to get it to load the windows bootloader
[05:30] <BroUnicorn> which is on sda1
[05:30]  * Onixs Bye!
[05:30] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, *wubi* shudder.  FYI: wubi is for TESTING ubuntu, not long term installation according to the developers.  Dual booting is the preferred method.  To fix the windows boot you need to use the windows disk and "repair/recover"
[05:30] <memand> BroUnicorn: and you'r sure you did not delete the windows partition?
[05:31] <BroUnicorn> memand: Yes.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, if you can still see the windows partition, then you should be able to recover/repair the MBR with the windows disk.
[05:32] <BroUnicorn> the MBR?
[05:32] <memand> I must say that I have never used wubi, so I'm on bare ground here...
[05:32] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, MasterBootRecord ...
[05:33] <cfhowlett> memand, personally, I say if you only want to test, use a virtual install ... virtualbox is good ...
[05:33] <memand> indeed
[05:33] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: I think I'm going to try reinstalling ubuntu to the partition that I deleted it from
[05:33] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: That ought to fix it
[05:33] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:33] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, ok.  proceed carefully.
[05:33] <merica> im having trouble with bumblebee again
[05:34] <cfhowlett> raddy, greetings
[05:34] <BroUnicorn> it only threw an error because we tried to have it download the updates at the same time
[05:34] <merica> Cannot access secondary GPU
[05:34] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: and our internet is terrible
[05:34] <raddy> Is Microsoft Exchange support removed from Ubuntu version of Evolution?
[05:34] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, I don't want to hear it.  I'm in China.  Trust me, THIS is terrible internet.
[05:34] <memand> BroUnicorn: Is there a specific reason you installed it with wubi? And Is there anything very critical you don't want to loose on the drive?
[05:35] <BroUnicorn> memand: No. There is not.
[05:36] <BroUnicorn> memand: I simply downloaded the most recent version and put it onto a dvd.
[05:36] <memand> BroUnicorn: then I would just wipe everything and install ubuntu clean on the disk
[05:36] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, really, seriously, find a dual boot tutorial and consider that option
[05:36] <BroUnicorn> memand: That's what I'm doing.
[05:36] <memand> Good :)
[05:36] <BroUnicorn> memand: Because I'm 99% positive the only reason I was getting the error is because it was trying to load the partition of ubuntu that I had just deleted
[05:37] <raddy> Is Microsoft Exchange support removed from Ubuntu version of Evolution?
[05:37] <memand> BroUnicorn: Again I don't have experience with wubi, but it sounds like a fair assumption
[05:38] <memand> cfhowlett: do you know how wubi actually works?
[05:38] <jambeedrum> does different browsers and different window managers have change of image quality ?
[05:38] <memand> cfhowlett: I mean does it make a ubuntu install, or is it kind of like the ubuntu version of wine?
[05:38] <cfhowlett> memand, in tech terms?  it emulates a new computer.  NOT wine..
[05:38] <memand> jambeedrum: not really
[05:39] <memand> cfhowlett: ok, so it's like a virtual machine?
[05:39] <elisa87> Hi I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on HP Pavilion dv3 beside no other OS. It wasn't slow at all but it's about one month that it has become damn slow and hangs and freezes every now and then. Do you know what's the reason and what are the solutions? I really need urgent help regarding this
[05:39] <cfhowlett> memand, it is an ubuntu install but as it exists in the windows filesystem, it's subject to windows errors that ubuntu/linux normally avoids, e.g. fragmentation
[05:40] <memand> cfhowlett: I'm really not conviced that wubi is a good idea...
[05:40] <dr_willis> in convinced its a bad idea
[05:40] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:40] <cfhowlett> memand, used for it's purpose, it's great.
[05:41] <memand> elisa87: is it slow to log in or slow in general?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> memand, interestingly, in 12.10, wubi was removed from the iso.  You can still get it but ...
[05:42] <elisa87> memand it's had become slow in login a little bit but mainly when I am working with internet or run spotify or just use ALT+TAB it just hangs and I should wait more than 30 seconds till it comes back to the normal operation
[05:42] <memand> cfhowlett: I just dont see the scenario where you would want to go with wubi instead of just trying it from the live disk
[05:43] <cfhowlett> memand, a little research goes a long way.  As I recall, wubi seemed less dangerous than trying to set up dual booting.  Of course, when wubi flamed out with the grub 2 upgrade, I was compelled to reconsider
[05:43] <memand> elisa87: have you installed anything reacently that could be sitting in the background taking up recources?
[05:44] <elisa87> everyday I have to install lots of things memand so I don't know which one is hurting the Ubuntu. Is there anyway to realize this?
[05:44] <skp1> anyone know how to stop all running pulseaudio processes?
[05:45] <memand> cfhowlett: Meh, I'm still not convinced, just get rid of windoze and go *nix all the way ;)
[05:45] <cfhowlett> skp1, killall pulseaudio
[05:45] <cfhowlett> memand, :)
[05:45] <memand> elisa87: try runining htop in the terminal
[05:45] <memand> *running
[05:46] <cheo> hey que onda alguien habla español???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[05:46] <memand> !es
[05:46] <cfhowlett> !es|cheo,
[05:47] <cheo> (y)
[05:47] <cheo>  w d f
[05:47] <grawity> Does Ubuntu's "Sound menu" have separate volume controls per player, or only one "master" control?
[05:47] <memand> Just one master as far as I know
[05:47] <cheo> a la ch con esto
[05:48] <dr_willis> i think ive seen it for differnt playuers and other apps making sounds
[05:48] <decci>  I setup a lustre filesystem with MDS/MGS, OSS and Client on each RHEL 6.3 machine. How to test if the configuration is working fine?
[05:48] <grawity> dr_willis: "sound settings" has them, yes, but I'm curious about the "Sound Menu" specifically
[05:48] <dr_willis> but  the app may need to regiester itself in the menu. You are refering to the top right audio sound volumd  icon?
[05:48] <grawity> yes
[05:48] <dr_willis> ive seen that icon have sevveral players shown
[05:49] <memand> elisa87: did htop reveal anything?
[05:49] <WeThePeople> where is the .trash located
[05:50] <dr_willis> !trash
[05:50] <elisa87> memrand ok what should I realize from that !? I am a newbie
[05:50] <elisa87> memrand I don't know how to realize if it's revealing anything! There's lots of things shown after I wrote htop in terminal
[05:50] <dr_willis> elisa87:  whats listed as the top cpu hog? it sorts high to low
[05:51] <elisa87> dr_willis are you meaning CPU percentage?
[05:51] <elisa87> nothing more than 2%
[05:51] <memand> yes
[05:52] <elisa87> memand dr_willis compiz 12%
[05:52] <elisa87> dr_willis memand pidgin 21%
[05:52] <dr_willis> keep htop running and see if anything  pops to the top when the system hangs/lags
[05:53] <elisa87> OK
[05:53] <elisa87> Any other solution?
[05:53] <elisa87> I have not used anything from swap
[05:53] <elisa87> it says 119,000 task running! Is that normal?
[05:53] <memand> no
[05:56] <elisa87> dr_willis + memand I ran eclipse right now and it used 146% of CPU
[05:56] <dr_willis> mine says tasks: 132, 341   but im not sure what that really means
[05:57] <dr_willis> mine says tasks: 121, 341      Thr: 1
[05:57] <memand> dr_willis elisa87: ok maybe it is normal, I'm running a pretty striped down version of linux
[05:57] <memand> it just sounded like a lot
[05:57] <elisa87> So any solution all in all
[05:57] <elisa87> ?
[05:57] <dr_willis> whats the load average line say
[05:59] <dr_willis> my raspberry pi says     tasks:  60, 58  threads: 2
[05:59] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:59] <dr_willis> i think its not saying  121,341 thousand.. but something like 121 out of 341 are active... (but im not sure)
[06:00] <dr_willis> the way the #s are formated seem odd
[06:00] <memand> dr_willis: that is 7, 000 less than i'm running on my laptop :P
[06:00] <memand> yes very odd indeed
[06:00] <memand> elisa87: how old is the computer?
[06:01] <elisa87> It's less than two years that I have it
[06:01] <dr_willis> elisa87:  and your video card is?
[06:01] <elisa87> IDK dr_willis how can I realize that?:P
[06:02] <dr_willis> look at lspci output  or the scickers on the outside
[06:02] <memand> elisa87: lspci | grep VGA
[06:02] <memand> in the terminal
[06:03] <elisa87> memrand and dr_willis 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[06:03] <elisa87> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[06:03] <elisa87> Is it a good one or no?
[06:05] <memand> elisa87: sounds allright, and the drivers should be working since it's not nVidia
[06:05] <memand> elisa87: when did you apdate your system last?
[06:05] <elisa87> How can I realize if the drivers are not compatible with Ubuntu?
[06:05] <dr_willis> this is a desktop or laptop
[06:06] <elisa87> I mean if there's something wrong with the driver how should I realize it?
[06:06] <elisa87> memrand I guess I didn't so far
[06:06] <elisa87> sudo apt-get update ?
[06:06] <memand> dr_willis: I don't remember if there is a way to apt-get upgrade just the vide drivers?
[06:07] <ikonia> memand: apt-get upgrade $PACKAGE
[06:07] <Borked> is GoDaddy any good for ubuntu domans?
[06:07] <memand> elisa87: first sudo apt-get update
[06:07] <ikonia> Borked: there is no such thing as "ubuntu domains"
[06:07] <memand> elisa87: just a sec
[06:07] <Borked> ikonia, sorry. I mean is GoDaddy good to use with a ubuntu server?
[06:08] <Borked> ikonia, i want to register a URL domain-style TLD name
[06:08] <ikonia> Borked: the registrar has nothing to do with the service you are using
[06:11] <memand> elisa87: sudo lshw -c video | grep configuration
[06:12] <elisa87> OK what should I do? Seems like I'm in an interactive place in terminal starting with PCI memrand
[06:13] <memand> elisa87: It will take a moment before it gives the output
[06:15] <elise001> I have a question, but do not want to flood the channel. Where and how do I post to?
[06:15] <ikonia> elise001: summerise your question into a short 2 - 3 line query
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> longer than that, then use pastebin
[06:15] <elisa87> memrand what do you realize by this result ?  configuration: driver=radeon latency=0       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[06:15] <ikonia> if your question needs to go in a pastebin - very few people will read it
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: yeah, i guess. If you were pasting 40-50 lines of console output, it'd be better to sign up and wait on the forum
[06:17] <ikonia> agreed
[06:17] <elise001> Am unable to install Opera on my Ubuntu laptop.
[06:17] <ikonia> ok, so what's the actual issue with the installtion process ?
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> elise001: what happens when you try?
[06:18] <elise001> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:18] <elise001> libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.1-0ubuntu7) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.3 is installed
[06:18] <elise001> Recommends: libc6-i686
[06:18] <elise001> python-louis: Depends: liblouis0 (>= 1.7.0-2) but it is not installable
[06:18] <elise001> ubuntu-minimal: Depends: libc6-i686
[06:18] <elise001> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[06:18] <elise001> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[06:18] <FloodBot1> elise001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:18] <meet> i set login without password in user accounts. Now everytime i use any sudo command or grub-customizer etc i am asked for my password. when i put my earlier password it says authentication failed. what is the problem?
[06:19] <memand> elisa87: It tells me what drivers we need to look for. Now do sudo apt-cache search radeon |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[06:19] <ikonia> wow the "not flooding" the channel really sunk in with you elise001
[06:19] <elise001> I said that I did not want to flood. Sorry.
[06:19] <memand> and send me the link that it gives you
[06:19] <Borked> ikonia, ok thank you for that. Is there any registrator you would personally recommend?
[06:19] <ikonia> Borked: no
[06:19] <elisa87> thank you memrand  http://sprunge.us/TcJc
[06:19] <Borked> ikonia, what is the official ubuntu.com registrator?
[06:20] <ikonia> elise001: the version of opera you are trying to install is too "old" for the version of ubuntu you are running
[06:20] <ikonia> Borked: look it up
[06:20] <meet> i set login without password in user accounts. Now everytime i use any sudo command or grub-customizer etc i am asked for my password. when i put my earlier password it says authentication failed. what is the problem? i am not able to change my password from the user accounts in settings.
[06:20] <ikonia> meet: yes, you said that less than 65 seconds ago
[06:20] <Borked> ikonia, ok, so to confirm; 1) Look up ubuntu.com registrator, 2) Use that registrator
[06:20] <Borked> ikonia, thank you!
[06:20] <ikonia> Borked: errr no
[06:20] <meet> ikonia: i made some additions
[06:20] <ikonia> that's not what I said
[06:21] <memand> elisa87: btw if you just start typing part of my name and press tab it will auto complete it ;)
[06:22] <elisa87> memand: ok so what should do we do with this result?  http://sprunge.us/TcJc
[06:22]  * Onixs ["Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/"]
[06:22] <memand> elisa87: did you do sudo apt-get update yet?
[06:22] <elisa87> no
[06:22] <memand> do it now
[06:22] <elisa87> I am going to do that first
[06:22] <Borked> ikonia, I'm afraid it is impossible to determine ubuntu.com's registrator
[06:23] <ikonia> Borked: no its not, but what does it matter, you don't have to use what they are using
[06:23] <Borked> ikonia, yes it is
[06:23] <Borked> ikonia, they are using www.markmonitor.com to obfuscate their registrator
[06:24] <ikonia> no, that means they act as the registrar,
[06:24] <elisa87> memand:  I had some warnings like : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:24] <ikonia> they are probably a registrar themselves with most of the tld providers
[06:24] <ikonia> Borked: but  you don't have to use what ubuntu.com uses
[06:24] <ikonia> use what you want
[06:24] <memand> elisa87: that's fine for now
[06:24] <Borked> ikonia, ok. Can you please help a little. Everyone tells me not to go with GoDaddy
[06:24] <ikonia> then do that
[06:24] <ikonia> use who you want
[06:25] <memand> elisa87: now do sudo apt-get upgrade xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[06:25] <ikonia> this channel is not here to give reviews on domain registrars
[06:25] <Borked> ikonia, are you sure it won't hurt my ubuntu? I usually use Windows Vista
[06:25] <ikonia> Borked: if you think it will - you should not be hosting a domain as you have zero concept of how it works
[06:25] <Borked> ikonia, ok. I just needed to know if there was a specific ubuntu registrator that was recommended
[06:25] <Borked> ikonia, really? I find that a little insulting
[06:25] <ikonia> the registrar has nothing to do with the OS of rht ehosting provider
[06:26] <ikonia> Borked: if you are insulted by the truth, I suggest you deal with it
[06:26] <Borked> ikonia, I run my own bind server
[06:26] <ikonia> so ?
[06:26] <memand> lol
[06:26] <Borked> ikonia, I am more than aquainted with the vagaries of domains, DNS, and the like
[06:26] <Borked> ikonia, I ask you to withdraw, sir
[06:27] <ikonia> Borked: then why are you asking questions like if a domain registrar will damage  your OS
[06:27] <Borked> ikonia, I like trolling
[06:27] <ikonia> Borked: or questions such as which registrars are better for ubuntu ?
[06:28] <memand> elisa87: how's it doing?
[06:28] <elisa87> memand:  it's yet upgrading
[06:28] <memand> ok
[06:29] <memand> elisa87: tell me when it's done :)
[06:29] <elisa87> ok sure
[06:29] <memand> we'll update you'r nvidia driver too
[06:30] <memand> sorry intel i mean
[06:30] <dr_willis> i thought he had an ati card
[06:30] <dr_willis> actually 2 cards
[06:30] <dr_willis> or am i confused again.
[06:31] <memand> dr_willis: no I'm just talking jiberish :P
[06:31] <dr_willis> i cant even rember his original problem. ;)
[06:32] <memand> elisa87: and at some point when we are done here you should really do a sudo apt-get upgrade to update everything, but that will probably take a loong tim if you have never done it before...
[06:32] <memand> dr_willis: laggy system
[06:32] <memand> :P
[06:32] <elisa87> memrand : IDK why that upgrade for Radeon is taking such a long time
[06:33] <dr_willis> is this a desktop system with 2 video cards? or a laptop with that annoying dual-gpu stuff?
[06:33] <elisa87> are you talking about me? I am a SHE :}
[06:33] <memand> it will take a while
[06:33] <elisa87> it's Pavilion dv3
[06:33] <memand> especially if you have a slow internet connection
[06:34] <BroUnicorn> memand: Installing ubuntu back to the partition that I deleted fixed the issue.
[06:34] <dr_willis> Pavillion DV3 dosent tell me if its a desktop or laptop....
[06:34] <BroUnicorn> :D
[06:34] <memand> BroUnicorn: nice :)
[06:34]  * Onixs 
[06:34] <vaskaloidis> hey my ubuntu server can ping other clients on my network but it cannot ping outside IP's like google.com
[06:34] <vaskaloidis> I just confined the network file
[06:35] <elise001> Will try to do sudo apt get update now
[06:35] <memand> BroUnicorn: but i really recomend getting rid of wubi and going for a dual boot system if you really need windoze
[06:36] <vaskaloidis> I think its a simple problem
[06:36] <rob_p> vaskaloidis: Missing default gateway, perhaps?
[06:36] <vaskaloidis> I set the gateway 192.168.1.200 in the config
[06:36] <memand> vaskaloidis: how does your /etc/hosts look?
[06:37] <BroUnicorn> memand: What even is wubi?
[06:37] <BroUnicorn> memand: and isn't it dual booted now?
[06:37] <vaskaloidis> it has 127 line twice
[06:37] <BroUnicorn> memand: when he turns on the computer he can choose between windows and ubuntu
[06:37] <vaskaloidis> then a bunch of ff00: ff01: and some stuff after it
[06:37] <MTW> How do I run Microsoft Office 2013 in ubuntu? I downloaded the .exe but it won't run
[06:38] <memand> BroUnicorn: did you install ubuntu from inside windoze?
[06:38] <dr_willis> !appdb | mtw
[06:38] <ikonia> MTW: I'd not try that in honesty
[06:38] <BroUnicorn> memand: No definitely not
[06:38] <ikonia> MTW: if you want to use office....use windows/mac platforms where it's suported
[06:38] <rob_p> vaskaloidis: route -n
[06:38] <BroUnicorn> memand: did it with a livedisc
[06:38] <ikonia> (that's only my personal opinion though)
[06:38] <MTW> What is the port of Ubuntu if you can't use Word?
[06:38] <MTW> ;(
[06:38] <dr_willis> I dont need word
[06:38] <memand> BroUnicorn: ok, then you don't have wubi. I just understood you had a wubi install...
[06:38] <vaskaloidis> rob_p: there are two destinations 192.168.1.0 and the other is 0.0.0.0
[06:38] <dr_willis> whats the point of word if  it wont run on Linux and my other  Os;s ;)
[06:38] <vaskaloidis> is that good?
[06:39] <vaskaloidis> rob_p: is that good???**
[06:39] <BroUnicorn> memand: Nope! :P
[06:39] <BroUnicorn> memand: But I'll definitely stay away fromm it.
[06:39] <memand> BroUnicorn: Do that
[06:40] <memand> BroUnicorn: Why do you need to have windoze installed anyways?
[06:40] <vaskaloidis> I gotta go real quick ill be back in 10 minutes rob_p can you help me then buddy?
[06:40] <elise001> I think the sudo apt-get update went well. Didn't take that long. I'll try to pastebin it.
[06:41] <dr_willis> elise001:  update dosent do much.. the upgrade does it all
[06:41] <dr_willis> you upDATE the list of packages you can upGRADE
[06:41] <miroesq> I got an error when using make && make install if someone could help me out with that
[06:41] <memand> elise001: who are you talking too?
[06:41] <elise001> So how do I upgrade?
[06:41] <dr_willis> so 'sudo apt-get upgrade' is the big command.
[06:41] <dr_willis> always update befor you upgrade
[06:41] <memand> elise001: sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:42] <heroclitis> dr_willis: is it necessary to run update to update the information from the repositories before running update?
[06:42] <dr_willis> and a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'   pulls in some held packages if needed
[06:42] <memand> yes
[06:42] <dr_willis> heroclitis:  if you want to be truely  up to date - yes
[06:43] <rob_p> vaskaloidis: Under the, "Gateway" heading, you should see your default gateway listed. If it's not there/incorrect, etc., then you need to fix it.
[06:43] <heroclitis> dr_willis: I thought so, thanks.
[06:43] <dr_willis> or at least have ran it some short time befor. ;)
[06:43] <elise001> I will try that sudo apt-get upgrade first.
[06:43] <Stark> Anyone willing to help me set up psyBNC?
[06:43] <memand> elisa87: still upgrading?
[06:43] <dr_willis> Stark:  a lot  of people perfer znc to psybnc these days
[06:44] <dr_willis> !info psybnc
[06:44] <elisa87> yes it's yet upgrading the radeon I'm eating my Special K red berries :|
[06:44] <memand> ANyTHING FOR A Stark!
[06:44] <dr_willis> elisa87:  it will most likely want to reboot after upgradeing also
[06:44] <elisa87> yeah
[06:44] <elise001> System suggested that I do apt-get -f install to correct unmet dependencies. Will try that.
[06:44] <dr_willis> at least it wont want to reboot several times like ive seen windows do
[06:44] <tucemiux> is it still possible to take a hard drive from one machine into another machine and have ubuntu pick up the hardware and work???
[06:44]  * Onixs 
[06:44] <memand> Stark: but seriously I don't even know what psyBNC is :P
[06:45] <BroUnicorn> memand: on my mac I need it because there's a program I use that's windows specific. Plus my Uni gives me windows 8 for free so might as well
[06:45] <BroUnicorn> night guys
[06:45] <dr_willis> !info znc
[06:45] <Stark> Is znc easy to set up?
[06:45] <Stark> I cannot figure psybnc out at all.
[06:45] <dr_willis> Stark:  fairly simple
[06:45]  * Stark is fairly a noob
[06:45] <heroclitis> When bridging a connection in virtualbox, does that bypass iptables?
[06:46] <dr_willis> psybnc has 1000's of docs/web sites/guides.. but i never use it
[06:46]  * Stark has used Ubuntu for years but never consistently or as a primary OS
[06:46] <elise001> correcting dependencies failed
[06:46] <memand> elisa87: lol, it sure is taking its sweet time, do you have a bad internet connection?
[06:47] <memand> dr_willis: I would say you should wait with rebooting untill we also have the intel drivers updated (then you dont have to reboot twice)
[06:47] <elisa87> I am using our complex wireless! It could be bad! I have no idea!
[06:47] <dr_willis> it shouldent reboot twice anyway.. it will insttall the drivers.. then say the system needs to reboot
[06:48] <elisa87> dr_willis is the problem originating from the not upgraded drivers?
[06:48] <dr_willis> elisa87:  the output of sudo apt-get ugrade      and the errors -  may be worth pastebining
[06:49] <dr_willis> which problem. ;) you should be able to update and upgrade just fine.. unless youve done some weird stuff to the ssytem
[06:49]  * memand welcomes Stark to *nix
[06:49] <elisa87> dr_willis how can I see the outputs of -erros of upgrade
[06:49] <elisa87> ?
[06:49] <Stark> memand: I used to use OS X primarily, so it's not entirely new
[06:49] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade   and paste the output to a pastebin site.. or use pastebinit
[06:49] <elise001> 'curl' is currently not installed
[06:50] <elisa87> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[06:50] <elisa87> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[06:50] <elisa87> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:50] <elisa87> mona@mona-HP-Pavilion-dv3-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:50] <elisa87> The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[06:50] <elise001> By the way, I am elise001 not elisa87.
[06:50] <elisa87> lol yes I am elisa
[06:51] <dr_willis> the whole idea of a pastebin site..  seems hard to grasp.
[06:51] <dr_willis> so we have 2 differnt elisas?
[06:51] <elisa87> I have to restart please don't write msg to me till I come back
[06:51] <dr_willis> or one person on 2 pcs ;)
[06:51] <memand> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQkB-WWzsbg lol
[06:51] <elise001> The 2 dl.google.com/linux links above give me 404s
[06:52] <dr_willis> the 404 on google.. are meaningless warnings
[06:52] <dr_willis> and you really should remove the entries from your soruces i imagine
[06:52] <elise001> Sorry elise87
[06:52] <memand> shes rebooting
[06:53] <Stark> My Ubuntu machine's WiFi connection is extremely unstable, and randomly dies every 15 minutes at most, requiring a manual re-connect.
[06:53] <memand> Stark: Is there a lot of wifi-networks in your are?
[06:53] <memand> *area
[06:53] <Stark> This is extremely annoying as I intend to use it via SSH and instead I continuously have to go to the machine and re-start it. Additionally, it makes it completely useless as an IRC bouncer.
[06:54] <Stark> memand: There are not
[06:54] <dr_willis> might be a good idea to get a differnt wifi card/dongle.. or run a wire
[06:54] <memand> Stark: is it when making popcorn in the microwave? .P
[06:54] <memand> :P
[06:55] <elise001> Trying to install Opera again on my ubuntu laptop.
[06:55] <memand> elisa87: welcome back
[06:55] <elise001> Broken dependencies.
[06:55] <ikonia> elise001: I told you this earlier
[06:55] <gumption> does anyone know how to add an application to startup?
[06:55] <elisa87> memrand dr_willis thx I restarted! How can I make sure if the problem is totally erased?
[06:55] <memand> elisa87:
[06:56] <memand> sry
[06:56] <elise001> This application can't continue until fixed.
[06:56] <memand> elisa87: did it log in faster this time?
[06:56] <skp1> how do i use ppa-purge?
[06:57] <heroclitis> skp1: http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[06:57] <elise001> To fix it run gksudo synaptic or sudo apt-get install -f in terminal window.
[06:57] <elisa87> it reboot faster but yet hangs a little :| memrand
[06:58] <elise001> Tried to run 'gksudo synaptic'
[06:58] <memand> elisa87: I would recomend finding a better internet connection and then running sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:59] <elise001> It says that I have 4 broken dependencies, and that I should use the "Broken" filter to locate them.
[06:59] <memand> elisa87: with the connection you have now it will take ages it seems
[07:00] <elise001> What is the syntax to use the Broken filter to locate them?
[07:00] <memand> what is the command to list all running deamons?
[07:00] <dr_willis> elise001:  use the broken filter  feature of synaptic and see  whats broken
[07:00] <dr_willis> elise001:  it has a button at the bottom left i recall]]
[07:00] <dr_willis> by source, by state, by broke,  - i cant rember the details
[07:01] <misterswag> What's the most popular irc now?
[07:01] <memand> misterswag: client you mean?
[07:01] <memand> misterswag: a lot of ppl use Xchat
[07:02] <memand> It's nice
[07:02] <misterswag> Yeah client, gotcha. I'm using it too.... Is there a way to generate SSL for channels
[07:03] <elisa87> memrand do you know why nothing happens when I run this? psql -h server.domain.org database user
[07:03] <heroclitis> I can't find much on the Amateur radio packages in synaptic, anyone know about these?
[07:03] <memand> misterswag: I don't use it myself, so I don't remember how to do it in Xchat. But I'm sure that google will tell you ;)
[07:03] <SeraphR> I can't use the Multi-touch feature. I am in Ubuntu 12.04.1 and I found that there is a bug report in launchpad (308191). I have read that but did not see any workarounds. Anyone can help?
[07:03] <misterswag> I sure am :-)
[07:04] <elisa87> memrand dr_willis mona@mona-HP-Pavilion-dv3-Notebook-PC:~$ psql -h server.domain.org database user
[07:04] <elisa87> psql: could not connect to server: Connection timed out
[07:04] <elisa87> 	Is the server running on host "server.domain.org" (216.34.94.184) and accepting
[07:04] <elisa87> 	TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
[07:04] <memand> elisa87: no idea, maybe because of bad connection
[07:04] <elise001> Buttons are on bottom left. Thanks Dr_Willis.
[07:04] <Ben64> elisa87: you own domain.org?
[07:04] <dr_willis> You are using an actual server and not some example server from a book? ;)
[07:04] <MTW> Office 2013 will not run in Wine...
[07:05] <MTW> installer exits
[07:05] <dr_willis> MTW:  im not suprised really
[07:05] <Ben64> MTW: libreoffice :D
[07:05] <elisa87> no I don't Ben64 should I own one for configuring postgresql?
[07:05] <MTW> What is the point of an operating system incompatible with Word processing?
[07:05] <pinkpelican> How do I change the resolution of a linux game? I want to play FTL on a netbook.
[07:05] <Ben64> elisa87: look at what you pasted. its trying to connect to it
[07:05] <heroclitis> MTW: What do you mean?
[07:06] <memand> try ping domain and see how much package loss you have elisa87
[07:06] <MTW> heroclitis: Word = word processing. libreoffice is a joke.
[07:06] <vaskaloidis> hey rob_p so any other ideas why my laptop cant connect to the internet but can ping other laptops on my network
[07:06] <vaskaloidis> or anyone else know why
[07:06] <Ben64> MTW: libreoffice works fine for word processing, its just not called "Word"
[07:06] <dr_willis> MTW:  some would say word is a joke.. but  do you have an actual support qquestion?
[07:06] <MTW> It doesn't have the same functionality, and libreoffice documents look 'weird' in Windows
[07:07] <elisa87> memand: Ben64 I was following this manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL can you follow it and see if you have the same error on the second step?
[07:07] <memand> vaskaloidis: maybe your router does not have an internet connection. So it can only ping localy
[07:07] <Ben64> elisa87: you're supposed to enter your server's hostname there
[07:07] <vaskaloidis> demand i am on the same router
[07:08] <vaskaloidis> memand: i am using the same router and I have internet
[07:08] <memand> vaskaloidis: is it your router?
[07:08] <elisa87> Ben64 can my own computer be counted as a server or what should I enter in your opinion if I don't have a server?
[07:08] <elise001> I did a pastebin. Can you all read it? Any suggestions, please?
[07:08] <Ben64> elisa87: read the document you pasted more carefully
[07:08] <SeraphR> I can't use the Multi-touch feature. I am in Ubuntu 12.04.1 and I found that there is a bug report in launchpad (308191). I have read that but did not see any workarounds. Anyone can help?
[07:08] <florian> hello, can someone help me with my usb hub failure? I'm gonna pastbin a dmesg log in a minute
[07:08] <vaskaloidis> memand: not the router
[07:09] <elise001> Getting food from kitchen
[07:09] <meet> i am posting my question again. sry for that. I selected the login without password from the user account settings. But now I am not able to perform any sudo commands or any setting changes which require password. my earlier password is not being recognized. How do I solve this?
[07:10] <memand> vaskaloidis: maybe it has some weird firewall rules, or maybe your /etc/hosts is set up wrong
[07:10] <SeraphR> meet: Do you have your Installation CD or Live USB? boot from there and then mount your hard disk and chroot to your linux. Then you might be able to use passwd command to reset the password.
[07:10] <vaskaloidis> no i was using the wrong gateway demand thank you it works
[07:10] <memand> vaskaloidis: :)
[07:10] <Ben64> meet: reboot into recovery and reset the password
[07:11] <memand> Ben64: Is it that simple?
[07:11] <memand> Ben64: that sounds majorly unsafe
[07:12] <Ben64> memand: if someone has physical access to your computer, theres no such thing as safe
[07:12] <meet> Ben64: what command should i use?
[07:13] <Ben64> meet: "passwd <your user>"
[07:13] <memand> Ben64: true that :) but still...
[07:13] <meet> Ben64: can i do that from the ctrl+alt+f1 screen?
[07:13] <Ben64> meet: nope, that needs a login
[07:13] <florian> my usb hub is failing once in a while. I usually have my keyboard in it and flash drives. when it fails, I can't use the flash drives directly in the ports. It seems as there is something wrong with the ports.
[07:14] <memand> florian: get it repaired
[07:14] <meet> Ben64: so when i select the advanced options and use the command prompt there, will i be directly in the root shell?
[07:14] <vaskaloidis> I would like a subdomain of my website vkaloidis.com IE macbook.vkaloidis.com to lead to my home network - I have port forwarding ready
[07:14] <Ben64> meet: yeah
[07:15] <florian> memand, the hub? or the ports?
[07:15] <memand> florian: whatever is broken, if it's a hardware problem there is really nothing we can do here...
[07:16] <florian> this is the pastebinned log of "dmesg | grep -i -b2 usb | pastebinit": http://pastebin.com/dk6PnhyL
[07:16] <florian> memand, yes, sure. but I'm not sure ( ;-) ) whether its a hardware or software failure.
[07:17] <elisa87> why am I receiving this error ? mona@mona-HP-Pavilion-dv3-Notebook-PC:~$ psql
[07:17] <elisa87> psql: FATAL:  role "mona" does not exist
[07:17] <pinkpelican> Can I resize windows to fit a netbook in Ubuntu?
[07:17] <memand> florian: I'm not sure what to make of that paste, maybe someone else is...
[07:17] <memand> I have to p
[07:18] <florian> I got the command from someone who knows more about computer systems than I do -- I can't figure out what the log dmesg log says.
[07:18] <florian> memand, thanks anyway.
[07:18] <ikonia> elisa87: the database role does not exist
[07:18] <ikonia> the error is quite clear
[07:19] <florian> histo, I didn't have any failure until this morning with the hub on a different port. The recent dmesg pastebin is http://pastebin.com/dk6PnhyL, from the same command you told me yesterday.
[07:26] <subdesign> can I change the size of nautilus icons?
[07:27] <meet> after i apt-get update, i am showed 4 5 errors everytime. The update completes and these errors are shown at the end. can someone please have a look and tell me what can i do to remove them? http://fpaste.org/tgnD/
[07:30] <amagee> where is the best place to ask questions about multiple monitors and X and xrandr?  i can't get ubuntu's "display" widget or xrandr to see that i have two monitors connected to my machine, regardless of whether both are plugged into my ati graphics card (open source drivers) or my intel graphics card
[07:30] <memand> lol I just saw that my gf has a shirt from trol design :P
[07:31] <Tecan> is there a pkgbuild for debian ?
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> Tecan: wut?
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> Tecan: if you wanted all debian packages, just install debian
[07:35] <Tecan> i run/make alot of apps that im not sure how to put into the repository's
[07:37] <elise001> ikonia: The Opera version is new. The Ubuntu version is older.
[07:42] <_raven> how to remove/repair a "half-installed" broken file?
[07:44] <_raven> apt-get: how to remove/repair a "half-installed" broken package?
[07:46] <dr_willis> apt-get -f    perhas
[07:47] <_raven> dr_willis does not work
[07:47] <dr_willis> pastebin the error messages perhaps
[07:49] <ikonia> elise001: according to the message, the ubuntu version is still too new
[07:49] <ikonia> elise001: the opera version wants an older version of libc
[07:52] <_raven> dr_willis www.pastebin.com/52kDZDfA
[07:53] <MonkeyDust> _raven  3.5.0.21 is newer than the current kernel
[07:54] <_raven> MonkeyDust ???!!!
[07:54] <_raven> my problem currently is the nautilus-dropbox
[07:55] <dr_willis> looked like several packages had ussues
[07:55] <_raven> yes
[07:58] <johnyboss1> john
[07:58] <adam__> cool
[07:58] <adam__> how do i change my name?
[07:59] <adam__> I'm new to IRC, are there any useful commands that I should know?
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> adam__  /nick blah
[08:00] <thatwhiteboy666> any other tips?
[08:00] <thatwhiteboy666> like how to leave a channel?
[08:00] <dr_willis> !irc
[08:00] <thatwhiteboy666> !irc
[08:01] <dr_willis> irc guides at freenode website also
[08:01] <dr_willis> and your client docs
[08:01] <thatwhiteboy666> docs?
[08:01] <dr_willis> yes.. read the fine manuals
[08:01] <_raven> dr_willis any idea?
[08:02] <dr_willis> xchat had good ones at one time
[08:02] <thatwhiteboy666> oh ok, sorry i misunderstood, i thought you were meaning docs as a verb not it has documents with it
[08:02] <dr_willis> docs is a verb?
[08:03] <thatwhiteboy666> as in "your irc client docs what you do"
[08:03] <dr_willis> boats dock at the warf.
[08:03] <dr_willis> :)
[08:04] <elise001> Downloading package files using Synaptic package manager.
[08:08] <elise001> Tiling on monitor on my Ubuntu laptop. Will have to restart computer in middle of stuff. Sigh.
[08:08] <anathema_> hi after succesfull dual boot + boot repair I have these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538249/    There are 2-3 entries that are not working and 2 entries for windows 8 Uefi boot. What I must keep and What I must delete?
[08:08] <meet> what can i do when during installation a dependencies not satisfied message is displayed? how do get those files or libraries etc?
[08:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey how can I make my server run SSL?
[08:09] <_raven> meet sudo apt-get -f install
[08:10] <meet> _raven: thanks
[08:11] <BotaniCar> Jutro, junacine
[08:11] <ketan985> info ketan985
[08:11] <BotaniCar> Njuze su zakon: "Koji program je najbolje instalirati da blokira AMD ili Intel procesor? "
[08:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how can i enable SSL on phpmyadmin?
[08:11] <ketan985> INFO  ketan985
[08:11] <subdesign> hey I have "Checking battery state" problem, installed current nvidia driver, now my screen is like 800x600.. any idea how to set up driver now?
[08:11] <thatwhiteboy666> ok, ive read some basic texts for the client im using, are there any good general chat servers you guys could recomend?
[08:12] <skp1> thatwhiteboy666: irc.fuckoff.net
[08:13] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hahaha
[08:13] <anathema_> hi after succesfull dual boot + boot repair I have these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538249/    There are 2-3 entries that are not working and 2 entries for windows 8 Uefi boot. What I must keep and What I must delete?
[08:16] <djono> hello i have a windows partition on my system. is it possible to delete it change it to ext4 then merge it to my 1 linux partition?
[08:18] <meet> _raven: not able to do that
[08:18] <anathema_> hi after succesfull dual boot + boot repair I have these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538249/    There are 2-3 entries that are not working and 2 entries for windows 8 Uefi boot. What I must keep and What I must delete?
[08:20] <djono> hello i have a windows partition on my system. is it possible to delete it change it to ext4 then merge it to my 1 linux partition?
[08:20] <meet> djono: you can use gparted for that
[08:20] <djono> should i use the live usb from a distro or just the gparted live disk?
[08:21] <nixbag> i wish there was a way to do that via fdisk
[08:24] <subdesign> how can I change screen resolution from command line ?
[08:25] <nixbag> xrandr -s XXXXxYYYY
[08:25] <nixbag> eg: xrandr -s 1024x768
[08:32] <subdesign> nixbag: thx
[08:36] <anathema_> hi after succesfull dual boot + boot repair I have these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538249/    There are 2-3 entries that are not working and 2 entries for windows 8 Uefi boot. What I must keep and What I must delete?
[08:39] <elise001> Am playing around with Synaptic Package Manager.
[08:39] <elise001> By the way, I'd like to eventually be good enough to help on here.
[08:39] <fas> I'm running 12.04 server and am seeing that it wants me to reboot. Being an inexperienced admin idk what package I installed caused this. How can I find out and what can I do to mae that message safely go away?
[08:39] <elise001> I know somebody in LA who used to. I live near Stanford.
[08:41] <elise001> Unable to munmap?
[08:42] <elise001> Dynamic MMap out of room. Please increase the size.
[08:43] <elise001> the size of APT::cache-limit. Current value 25165824 (man 5 apt.conf)
[08:44] <elise001> Error occurred while processing libtermios-ruby1.8 (NewVersion1)
[08:46] <elise001> Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[08:47] <elise001> This package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[08:47] <elise001> _cache->open() failed, pleasereport.
[08:48] <elise001> Any ideas please?
[08:51] <elise001> Am tired. Should go to sleep. 12:50 am here. Working tomorrow teaching.
[08:53] <anathema_> hi after succesfull dual boot + boot repair I have these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538249/    There are 2-3 entries that are not working and 2 entries for windows 8 Uefi boot. What I must keep and What I must delete?
[08:53] <somsip> erlnoob: well, my bad for assuming DateInterval could be compared. But yes - it's weird. Nearly had me biting the table for a while there...
[08:57] <skp1_> what's the keyboard shortcut to unmaximise a window?
[09:00] <iceroot> skp1_: ctrl + super + arrow down
[09:00] <iceroot> skp1_: to max again  ctrl + super + arrow up
[09:02] <anathema_> hi after succesfull dual boot + boot repair I have these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1538249/    There are 2-3 entries that are not working and 2 entries for windows 8 Uefi boot. What I must keep and What I must delete?
[09:03] <wupeng> when 13.04 is going to be released?
[09:05] <iceroot> wupeng: 04.2013
[09:05] <iceroot> wupeng: #ubuntu+1
[09:05] <wupeng> cool
[09:11] <c4pt> hello I am having problems with my usb devices sometimes my usb mouse will stop working and i have to unplug it and plug it back in and same thing with my usb web cam
[09:20] <worm> My Synaptics touchpad can't use two finger scrolling. Can anyone help? The option in system settings is unavailable(gray).
[09:21] <worm> I am using Ubuntu 12.04.1 in Dell Inspiron 1464.
[09:22] <Joe23> Hi Guys
[09:22] <Joe23> is there a way to find out what scripts are called on bootup?
[09:22] <Joe23> i am in a VM
[09:22] <cousteau> Installed the NVidia drivers manually (the .run).  Now each time I get a kernel update, X fails, and I have to reinstall them and reboot  (which doesn't happen if I install the driver from repositories).  Any way to automate this reinstall?
[09:23] <Joe23> and im trying to figure out which scripts were called as part of bootup that queried the meta-data server
[09:23] <Joe23> any ideas?
[09:23] <anathema_> Is there any way to fix fn hotkeys for asus laptop (Brightness) ?
[09:24] <cousteau> plan B is to completely uninstall Nvidia drivers and install from repos
[09:26] <Dr4k3> @joe23 if you want to look up your start-up-scripts in init.d. You could the following: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[09:26] <Dr4k3> @joe23 use in terminal as root
[09:28] <Joe23> Dr4k3: thanks! I will try it out
[09:28] <researcher> how to gewt website contents using command window
[09:28] <_raven> apt-get: how to remove/repair a "half-installed" broken package?
[09:32] <decci> I followed http://wiki.whamcloud.com/display/PUB/Create+and+Mount+a+Lustre+Filesystem and setup MDS, MGS and Client. How shall I test it if its working fine
[09:33] <decci> I followed http://wiki.whamcloud.com/display/PUB/Create+and+Mount+a+Lustre+Filesystem and setup MDS, MGS and Client. How shall I test it if its working fine
[09:33] <decci> Sorry for the double click
[09:35] <Fudge> hi having trouble on lucid with ralink 2860, I believe a driver is in the kernel. gnome network manager just prompts me for password all the time, pw is correct
[09:37] <Fudge> a guide suggests to go get the source,  then remove the sta driver from kernel, why would that be
[09:39] <elise001> Still awake.
[09:39] <elise001> Substituting for chemistry teacher tomorrow.
[09:39] <eruditehermit> c
[09:40] <joey8> elise can we call water di-hydrated oxeygen
[09:40] <joey8> oxygen*
[09:40] <elise001> Maybe.
[09:40] <dr_willis> hydrognazed ozygen
[09:40] <joey8> ah ha
[09:40] <cousteau> or hydrogen hydroxide
[09:41] <dr_willis> dihydrogenbioxide
[09:41] <joey8> but if it is h2o where is the 2 noted?
[09:41] <joey8> bioxide?
[09:41] <cousteau> or oxygen hydride
[09:41] <cousteau> or hydrogen oxide
[09:42] <sevoxx> or super nerds
[09:42] <joey8> wouldnt hydrogen oxide be "ho" not "h2o"
[09:42] <dr_willis> monoxide
[09:43] <cousteau> joey8, no, the chemical name is not the formula
[09:43] <joey8> oh really thanx
[09:43] <cousteau> unless ambiguous
[09:43] <cousteau> Iron(III) oxide is Fe2O3, not FeO
[09:43] <Fudge> dr_willis  do you know about the ralink firmware
[09:43] <cousteau> and it's not called "diiron trioxide"
[09:44] <dr_willis> Fudge:  not really. when  i buy a Wifi card/dongle -  i make sure it works with the default open soiurced drivers.
[09:44] <rushboy> joey8: try a channel which pertains to a question such as yours :-)
[09:44] <joey8> yeah yeah yeah
[09:44] <dr_willis> Fudge:  i would think any module  would be built as a module.. not built into the kernel . so it could be blacklisted if needed
[09:44] <Fudge> dr_willis good idea, I do too but when I get a laptop or netbook I dont knock it back coz of the wireless :p the thread is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476007
[09:45] <Fudge> funny thing is that the card I am sure is covered by the default kernel so I dont know why that step is needed
[09:45] <dr_willis> Fudge:  you can get a usb wifi dongle for like $8 thst works in ubuntu :) i picked up 3 lst month. of differnt brands to test out\
[09:45] <dr_willis> if nothing else.. it would let me get to the internet from a picky laptop - via wifi - to get drivers for any built in wifi
[09:46] <dr_willis> and i needed them for my raspberry pis ;)
[09:47] <Fudge> true, I have it wired now but sitll cant make it work, the interface is there, it scans networks but wont connect
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> +
[09:49] <cousteau> OK, I'm going to remove the Nvidia drivers, and then install them manually from repositories.  Any tip before I continue?
[09:49] <dr_willis> manuallyu from the repositories?
[09:49] <dr_willis> youmean apt-get install nvidia-current ?
[09:49] <Bastichou> Hi everybody, i would like to upgrade my squid3 (3.1.19) installed by binary into the lasted version (3.2.6) not available on the ubuntu repo yet.
[09:50] <cousteau> er, install them from repositories; minus the "manually"
[09:50] <Bastichou> Is it possible to upgrade it by compiling source ?
[09:50] <belgianguy> how do I find out if my current Eclipse was installed through the PPA or the website?
[09:50] <cousteau> dr_willis, actually it's nvidia-experimental-304 the one I need
[09:51] <belgianguy> I'd like to try out the Juno version, without breaking my Indigo (current) install
[09:53] <Fudge> dr_willis the problem I have found, the 2.6.32 kernel does not have the fix, its in the 2.6.33 loL
[09:56] <cousteau> ok, so this is my plan:  http://codepad.org/GYhJmdM1
[09:57] <cousteau> stop X - uninstall nvidia driver provided by the cuda installer - remove xorg.conf - reboot - install nvidia-experimental-304 - start X
[10:01] <cousteau> I'm afraid to do this...
[10:02] <jiltdil> How to create my own filesystem
[10:05] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  what do you mean?
[10:05] <Dr4k3> belgianguy: its possible to install the eclipse binary in your home directory
[10:06] <dr_willis> cousteau:  you will need to reboot after installing the nvidia-experimental drivers i imagine
[10:07] <cousteau> dr_willis, ok.  I'll try to start lightdm first anyway.
[10:07] <belgianguy> Dr4k3: I'm currently on Indigo and have that in my home dir as well and have quite some projects in it
[10:07] <cousteau> Or no, better not risk.
[10:07] <Dr4k3> belgianguy: You should uninstall the eclipse-version from ppa, first.
[10:07] <belgianguy> I wonder if the two distributions will 'fight'
[10:07] <belgianguy> I can't really afford to get rid of Indigo now, but was wondering what Juno was about
[10:09] <Guest66936> i just create swap partition with gparted, how to attach that swap to system ?
[10:10] <Dr4k3> belgianguy: if you backup your .eclipse and workspace directory.s You could try out juno without risk.
[10:10] <Dr4k3> belgianguy: just make a copy of them
[10:12] <dr_willis> or try the other  under a differnt user
[10:13] <dr_willis> Guest66936:  make a fstab entry for it.  and reboot.. or use the proper swapon command to activate it
[10:14] <dr_willis> !swap
[10:16] <cousteau> "to make your system faster"?
[10:16] <Dr4k3> ubottu: Swap usage make the system faster? I dont think so
[10:16] <Dr4k3> *loL*
[10:16] <cousteau> Dr4k3, it somehow does
[10:18] <cousteau> if the programs that end up on swap aren't the ones you're using mainly, the other ones might take advantage of having more RAM
[10:18] <Dr4k3> Yes, it does. if you have..lets say 500MB of RAM
[10:18] <cousteau> but if the ones on swap are the ones you're using, everything will get slow as hell
[10:19] <cousteau> also, disks today aren't that slow
[10:19] <cousteau> anyway, I tend to keep my swappiness to 10
[10:20] <belgianguy> keeps the system from "thrashing" IIRC
[10:22] <pinkpelican> How can I find the IP for my router?
[10:22] <pinkpelican> I want to change its settings.
[10:23] <jpds> pinkpelican: Well, usually it'll be the gateway of your network settings.
[10:24] <pinkpelican> I tried 192.168 which usually works, but this time it went to my modem.
[10:24] <pinkpelican> I've never seen my modem settings before.
[10:26] <iceroot> pinkpelican: "route" should show the router in the "Router" field for the default connection
[10:27] <pinkpelican> Where do I find that? Is it a terminal command?
[10:27] <catphish> are tray icons hidden by default in ubuntu?
[10:27] <iceroot> pinkpelican: yes
[10:27] <pinkpelican> What is the command?
[10:27] <iceroot> catphish: no
[10:27] <iceroot> pinkpelican: route is the command
[10:28] <catphish> iceroot: interesting, i've heard of some problems with tray icons showing up in unity, will have to investigate further
[10:28] <subdesign> am I right i have to copy Thunderbird profile only if I set up main on a new Ubuntu install?
[10:28] <iceroot> catphish: i am not missing any icons (steam, hplib, skype) so there is nothing hidden by default
[10:28] <subdesign> *mail
[10:29] <catphish> iceroot: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Show_tray_icons_in_unity
[10:29] <iceroot> subdesign: if you are using imap your mails are stored on the server
[10:29] <catphish> maybe those applications whitelist themselves, or maybe i'm misunderstanding
[10:29] <iceroot> catphish: ah ok, didnt know that, thanks for the link
[10:30] <iceroot> catphish: as you see skype and hp-systray are in there, because of that i am not missing them :)
[10:30] <catphish> looks like the answer to my own question is yes, also looks like skype is one of those that is whitelisted by default
[10:30] <pinkpelican> Oh my these parental controls are such shit.
[10:30] <iceroot> !language | pinkpelican
[10:30] <catphish> i have an application that lives mostly in the tray, looks like i'll need to make it whitelist itself under unity
[10:31] <pinkpelican> I want it to block internet at 2am -  6pm
[10:31] <iceroot> catphish: i think so to
[10:31] <pinkpelican> 6 am
[10:31] <iceroot> pinkpelican: then have a look at your router manual
[10:32] <pinkpelican> iceroot more useful advice would be a third party program that offers parent filter.
[10:32] <iceroot> pinkpelican: you want filtering on the router not on the client
[10:32] <pinkpelican> This router doesn't offer a filter start after midnight.
[10:33] <pinkpelican> Or before noon
[10:33] <catphish> all times are after midnight...
[10:33] <pinkpelican> inb4
[10:33] <bibi23> I have a directory with my global scripts that I've exported to the $PATH in my .bashrc file, but it isn't available for cronjobs, do you know why?
[10:34] <iceroot> bibi23: cron does not have PATH set by default
[10:34] <iceroot> bibi23: put it in your cronscript
[10:34] <catphish> search the software centre for parental control tools maybe?
[10:34] <dr_willis> does cron use sh or bash by default? i never noticed
[10:35] <catphish> i'm not familiar with them
[10:35] <JJordan> hello
[10:35] <pinkpelican> It needs to be cross platform, I'm just on Ubuntu right now.
[10:35] <dr_willis> opendns has some parental controls also.
[10:35] <bibi23> iceroot: ok
[10:35] <JJordan> i need help :x
[10:35] <pinkpelican> Off to #windows
[10:35] <iceroot> dr_willis: the shell which is set in /etc/passwd for that user
[10:35] <catphish> pinkpelican: it won't ever be cross platform, unless you do it on the router
[10:35] <iceroot> dr_willis: imo
[10:36] <dr_willis> iceroot:  ive not messed with cron in years. ;)
[10:36] <JJordan> i purchased a new computer 2 days ago but i didnt buy a operating system, when i turn the computer on it just says something about dmi tool
[10:36] <dr_willis> JJordan:  so what os have you installed on it?
[10:36] <JJordan> nothing :s
[10:36] <catphish> JJordan: then you probably need to install one :)
[10:36] <dr_willis> JJordan:  test out a live cd?
[10:36] <JJordan> i was wondering would i be able to put ubuntu on it?
[10:36] <iceroot> dr_willis: yes today you dont need cron that often, most tools already have a cron-config (logrotate for example)
[10:37] <dr_willis> JJordan:  test out a live cd?   that would tell yoiu
[10:37] <catphish> looks like DMI tool is an HP BIOS thing?
[10:37] <JJordan> a live cd? sorry im not that computer savvy :[
[10:37] <dr_willis> JJordan:  ogo to ubuntu.com and get a ubuntu cd. boot it up
[10:37] <catphish> wouldn't worry about it, you just need a linux (ubuntu presumably) install cd
[10:37] <catphish> it should boot with an ubuntu cd in the drive
[10:37] <dr_willis> If you are not computer savvy... err.. why would you buy a pc with no os?
[10:38] <catphish> after that it will prompt you to install it
[10:38] <wbinvd> or in a usb pen
[10:38] <catphish> ubuntu is very easy to install
[10:38] <wbinvd> you can launch ubuntu live from a usb pendrive
[10:38] <catphish> but you will need to make or buy an install cd or usb stick
[10:38] <JJordan> thanks for the info guys
[10:38] <catphish> no problem
[10:38] <JJordan> iv got a blank 8gb cd
[10:38] <dr_willis> Huh>
[10:38] <catphish> ok, you just need to burn an ubuntu disk then (desktop, 64 bit)
[10:38] <JJordan> thats enough space to burn it onto
[10:38] <catphish> yes
[10:39] <dr_willis> an 8gb USB flash drive you mean?
[10:39] <JJordan> nope, a blank dvd disc
[10:39] <catphish> you only need a redular 4GB dvd
[10:39] <Ancient|2> Does anyone have any experience with fdisk's "move start sector" functionality on existing partitions? I'm looking to move a partitions start point from sector 63 to 2048 to fit a larger grub2 install, and I'd like to do it non-destructively if possible.
[10:39] <catphish> but that's fine
[10:39] <dr_willis> easier to put it on a flash drive. ;)
[10:39] <JJordan> my friend told me to use poweriso to burn files onto a disc
[10:39] <catphish> i find it much easier to burn a dvd personally
[10:40] <catphish> JJordan: yes, do that
[10:40] <dr_willis> i just dd the iso to flash. ;)
[10:40] <dr_willis> but im okd-skool
[10:40] <catphish> dr_willis: he has a dvd burning tool and a dvd, and likely doesn't have dd, why confuse matters
[10:40] <dr_willis> justr dont drag/drop the iso onto the cd and think it will work
[10:40] <JJordan> i cant believe i paid nearlly £1000 for a computer and didnt add a OS
[10:40] <catphish> dr_willis: he is using poweriso
[10:40] <catphish> which is fine :)
[10:41] <wbinvd> JJordan: ive did the some
[10:41] <catphish> JJordan: it's ok, ubuntu is free :)
[10:41] <dr_willis> we had someone in here last week opening the.iso file with winrar and mad at us because it was wnting  money for the full version... ;P
[10:41] <wbinvd> JJordan: but a pc without a computer and launch first time with a live cd ubuntu
[10:41] <catphish> no need to waste money getting someone else to install an OS
[10:41] <bobweaver> nice name catphish
[10:42] <JJordan> yeah i was worrying about that, i kept getting told on another forum i was needing to pay like £80
[10:42] <JJordan> i was like what.....
[10:42] <catphish> i've had this nick for about 10 years
[10:42] <Onkeltem> Hi! Does anybody own "Wacom Bamboo Pen" CTL-470K tablet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12459741
[10:44] <bibi23> I'm looking at the manpage of crontab, it says "will look at MAILTO if it has any reason to send mail", but what is this "any reason"?
[10:45] <subdesign> qtn: should I copy the old Thunderbird profile content into the new profile, or separate?
[10:45] <bibi23> I first tought it is when the script doesn't return 0, but apparently it's not the case, it just sent me an email while there were no error
[10:45] <soahccc> Hello! Did I get this wrong or what is the search thing in resolv.conf for? https://gist.github.com/54b37b06ae144fdcbc39
[10:45] <bibi23> by email I mean in /var/mail/user
[10:46] <dr_willis> bibi23:  i thought if there was any program output.
[10:46] <bibi23> dr_willis: ok thx
[10:46] <dr_willis> normally your cronjobs shouldent be 'chatty'  and print messages. but put things in a log.. i seem to recall from ages ago
[10:48] <bibi23> dr_willis: ok, I'm just going to redirect stdout to /dev/null, and if there is any error it's going to be prompt because it should be stderr and the crontab should send a mail I guess in that case
[10:49] <catphish> cron will email any output of a script
[10:49] <catphish> normally cron scripts are silent, but if there's a problem they should output an error and that gets emailed to the user
[10:49] <doom> which ubuntu version is good 12.04 or 12.10?
[10:49] <catphish> doom: depends on your requirements
[10:49] <catphish> 12.10 is newer, but 12.04 has long term support
[10:50] <doom> ok i need fast performance i have dell mini with atom processor with 2 gb ram
[10:50] <catphish> so for normal use, 12.10, but where the installation needs to be supported a long time without major changes / upgrades, 12.04
[10:50] <doom> which version should i choose?
[10:51] <catphish> i believe you should generally always use the latest (12.10) for features and performance
[10:51] <dr_willis> doom  for low end systems. you may wan tto use Lubuntu
[10:51] <dr_willis> !lubuntu | doom
[10:51] <catphish> that's also true, a lightweight ubuntu like lubuntu or xubuntu will be faster
[10:52] <dr_willis> speed for what however?  ;) a netbook is no powerhouse
[10:52] <doom> .exi
[10:52] <catphish> for general use and browsing i would assume
[10:53] <anathema_> Hi I have just installed Ubuntu 12.10 in Asus K55VD (A55VD-SX406H) I7-3630M, RAM 8GB, nvidia GEFORCE 610M 2GB. I have installed bumblebee nvdidia drivers. But the brightness keys (FN F5,F6) are not working.  any idea? thanks
[10:57] <wbinvd> anathema_: u try with the control panel
[10:57] <wbinvd> anathema_: if u can change the bright
[10:57] <anathema_> wbinvd, works with cp, i need the hotkeys to work. Is there any way? I tried acpi_backlight=vendor but no luck
[10:58] <anathema_> wbinvd, my dmesg: asus_wmi: Backlight controlled by ACPI video driver
[10:58] <wbinvd> anathema_: you have to map the keycode of your keyboard
[10:58] <marahin> anathema_, for my case I had to enable function keys in BIOS.
[10:59] <anathema_> wbinvd, how i can do that?
[10:59] <anathema_> marahin, the other fn keys (volume works ok) function keys in my bios are enabled
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: what do the keys that don't worek do?
[11:00] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, Brightness keys FN f5 f6 for asus
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: what model asus?
[11:00] <anathema_>  ActionParsnip Asus K55VD (A55VD-SX406H) I7-3630M, RAM 8GB, nvidia GEFORCE 610M 2GB
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: oh, dual GPU fun huh
[11:01] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, I have installed Bumblebee nvidia driver
[11:01] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, other fn keys works great. Is there any way to fix that?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: if you run:  echo 8 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/asus-laptop/ls_level
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: does it help?
[11:05] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, no such file or directory
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: do you have the /sys/devices/platform/asus-laptop folder?
[11:06] <soahccc> What do I have to do so that ubuntu is able to resolv local hosts without that .local extension? I randomly tried several solutions but none of them seems to change anything
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> soahccc: do you mean systems on the same subnet?
[11:06] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, no there is a asus-nb-wmi folder in platform dir
[11:07] <soahccc> ActionParsnip: exactly... I have a VM for developing a specific application but I use my local database. At home it could resolve my hostname, but at work (soho) it only can find it with the .local extension
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> soahccc: you could add the resolution in /etc/hosts I guess
[11:09] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, but in the asus-nb-wmi there is no ls_level :(
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: anything else looking suspect?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: i suggest you report a bug but bumblebee is far from perfect
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: i assume you tried the usual backlight boot options
[11:11] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, I dont know. Is there a problem because i dont have the asus-laptop folder? I have tried the acpi_backlight to vendor setting...
[11:11] <soahccc> ActionParsnip: I would prefer something where I do not have to change it 2 times a day when I switch the network :)
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: i hope you are running your web browser and media players with the nvidia gpu too. helps a lot
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> soahccc: not sure then, could ask in ##networking
[11:12] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, also I dont think that is a bumblebee problem. No I dont run them with this :P
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: why not, you are running everything on the intel gpu, you aren't using the nvidia
[11:13] <ethang> hey guys - anyone know if they addressed that huge Java vulnerability in OpenJDK yet?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ethang: are there bugs reported and closed?
[11:13] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, If I dont run it with the bumblebee command is there a problem? Also the fn keys are not working with the ubuntu default driver. So i suppose that is a kernel issue
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: yes, it will run on the intel gpu, not the nvidia
[11:13] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, How to fix that?
[11:13] <bartzy> Hi
[11:13] <bartzy> How can I change Caps lock to be turned on only when pressing Ctrl+Capslock ?
[11:13] <ethang> ActionParsnip: where do I check that?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ethang: launchpad
[11:14] <Bobezzi> Hi
[11:14] <Bobezzi> !list
[11:14] <ethang> ActionParsnip: thanks.  ok. I'll check
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: use: optirun vlc    for example, to have it run onm the nvidia
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: did you try the boot option:    acpi_osi=
[11:16] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help. I will report the bug in launchpad. One last thing: I think that the brightness fn issue is kernel issue for this model and not bumblebee nvidia. because fn brightness keys are not working with the default drivers in live usb. What do you think
[11:17] <anathema_> ActionParsnip,  I have tried the acpi_osi=Linux setting. No luck. I must set it = NULL ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: did you try the boot option: acpi_backlight=vendor
[11:17] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, Yes sir. No luck too
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: did you try the boot option: acpi_osi=Linux
[11:17] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, Yes sir acpi_osi not null but with the Linux parameter. No luck
[11:18] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, my dmesg:  asus_wmi: Backlight controlled by ACPI video driver
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: its the dual gpu nonsense, it causes issues. ALl I can suggest is report the bug and wait.
[11:18] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, Thanks I will report. :)
[11:19] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, my dmesg ouput asus_wmi: Backlight controlled by ACPI video driver is correct?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: no idea mate
[11:19] <anathema_> ActionParsnip, thanks again. no problem :)
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> anathema_: makes sense for an nvidia I guess
[11:23] <JJordan> ok im now burning the ubuntu onto a disc
[11:23] <Bastichou> Hi, i'm using squid3 repo version (3.1.19) and i would like to upgrade into the lasted version 3.2.6, but she is not available on ubuntu repo yet. Can i upgrade my squid instance with compiling source?
[11:23] <Bastichou> (Ubuntu 12.10)
[11:24] <worm> Bastichou: If you decided to compile from the source code, the only problem is that you might need to manage and upgrade it manually in the future.
[11:25] <worm> dpkg can't handle source codes.
[11:25] <DJones> !checkinstall | Bastichou This may help,
[11:27] <Bastichou> Djones, Thx i will check it.
[11:28] <Bastichou> worm, yes i know but i have to upgrade my squid asap :S
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Bastichou
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Bastichou: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=squid3
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Bastichou: check those out, remember to filter for your release
[11:30] <ethang> I have a problem with the "sleep suspend to RAM".  It crashes when you try to wake it back up.
[11:30] <Bastichou> Ok ! Thx everybody, sorry for my ignorance ! ;)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ethang: what make and model system?
[11:31] <ethang> ASUS G74S running 12.10
[11:31] <radopi> ethang: tried 'echo "mem" > /sys/power/state' as root?
[11:32] <ethang> will now
[11:33] <ethang> permission denied
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> radopi: or   echo "mem" | sudo tee /sys/power/state
[11:33] <ethang> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:34] <WXZ> is the terminal just a really powerful regex engine?
[11:35] <dr_willis> Bash has a regex engine
[11:35] <WXZ> dr_willis: that's what I meant
[11:35] <dr_willis> the one sh has - is not as complex. ;)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> ethang: http://thecodecentral.com/2011/01/18/fix-ubuntu-10-10-suspendhibernate-not-working-bug
[11:35] <WXZ> I'm trying to write my own, it's pretty hard
[11:36] <WXZ> well it's hard to do it concisely
[11:38] <ethang> ActionParsnip: had to reboot
[11:39] <ethang> works fine in Debian
[11:40] <JJordan> ty guys i have succesfully installed ubunta
[11:41] <JJordan> special thanks to catphish
[11:42] <newbie300> how to get my swap partition UUID ? No results with "blkid "
[11:43] <iceroot> newbie300: then you dont have a swap partition
[11:43] <iceroot> newbie300: maybe you have a swap-file instead?
[11:43] <newbie300> no, i create swap partition with gparted
[11:43] <iceroot> newbie300: what is the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[11:44] <iceroot> !paste | newbie300
[11:45] <newbie300> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541171/
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> ethang: add that to your bug
[11:46] <iceroot> newbie300: as i said, you dont have a swap partition
[11:47] <iceroot> newbie300: you clicked "apply" after you did the changes in gedit? because gedit did not create an extra partition
[11:47] <ethang> ActionParsnip: ok will do
[11:47] <newbie300> ah, no i dont :)
[11:47] <iceroot> newbie300: :)
[11:47] <newbie300> thank you :)
[11:47] <iceroot> newbie300: you are welcome
[11:50] <newbie300> I create swap now, but when i do " blkid /dev/sda4" i get no output...
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> newbie300: just run:   sudo blkid
[11:51] <newbie300> thanks, im so stupid :D
[11:52] <dr_willis> that tricky apply button! ;)
[11:52] <iceroot> newbie300: blkid means blockid and the block is sda not sda4, sda4 is just a partition and sda is the device itself (your hdd)
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ethang: are the kernels vastly different?
[11:54] <mkar> Hola buenos días
[12:02] <Kryptos> Hi. I have som questions regarding dualbooting ubuntu on my mac
[12:02] <Kryptos> I have tried the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[12:05] <_raven> apt-get: how to remove/repair "half-installed" broken packages?
[12:06] <jrib> _raven: you should give context: 1) what packages?  2) pastebin full input/output with the relevant messages  3) what do you know about why they are in that state?
[12:08] <_raven> jrib i am on another machine right now and cannot paste for the moment but apt-get remove, purge, install does not work, -f does not work, dpkg-reconfigure, dpkg --configure does not work and i am a bit out of ideas
[12:09] <decci> I have a VM currently running that i need to move to linode.  The VM is an OpenVZ container using Proxmox as a host. The VM runs web sql and Postfix that sends newsletters. It is running Debian 5.0 32bit.  I require an exact replica on linode and will then remove the OpenVZ virtual machine once complete.
[12:09] <jrib> _raven: can't really help without you answering the 3 questions I asked.  You should be able to answer (3) without being on the machine.  For (1) and (2), can you get to the machine or can you ssh to the machine?
[12:10] <auronandace> decci: we don't support debian here, only ubuntu
[12:11] <jrib> decci: I would suggest #linode (I think they're on the OFTC network)
[12:15] <_raven> jrib how i can give you information: www.pastebin.com/zhN1QPkB
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> _raven: you could take a picture with a camera then use imageshack tyo host it
[12:15] <_raven> ActionParsnip ?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> radopi: never mind, let me read
[12:16] <jrib> _raven: prefix your command with "LANGUAGE=C LANG=C ".  For example: LANGUAGE=C LANG=C apt-get ...
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> _raven: try:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install  linux-image-3.5.0-21-generic
[12:19] <Jjordan> hi
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> hi Jjordan
[12:19] <Jjordan> im new to ubuntu and im trying to download java
[12:19] <Jjordan> what do i download it under, which linux?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Jjordan: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Jjordan: use TAB and ENTER when asked to accept the license
[12:21] <belgianguy> I installed the new Eclipse, and now want the Unity launcher to start the new one
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest77314
[12:21] <belgianguy> but the icon still points to the old one
[12:21] <belgianguy> even when I remove it, start the new one, anchor it to the launcher, it launches the old version
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: if you make a bash alias, does it work?
[12:22] <jrib> !java | Jjordan, there's also openjdk that you may want to consider
[12:22] <belgianguy> ActionParsnip: I don't know what that is
[12:22] <jrib> belgianguy: how did you install the new eclipse?
[12:22] <belgianguy> from the site, not through ppa
[12:22] <jrib> belgianguy: ok, but how?
[12:22] <belgianguy> (per advice on #eclipse)
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: if you open the .desktop in /usr/share/applications    you can edit the Exec=  line to make it run the different binary
[12:23] <belgianguy> extract and start
[12:23] <jrib> belgianguy: where did you extract it to?  And how do you start it?
[12:23] <belgianguy> /home/myname/eclipse
[12:23] <belgianguy> and just double click the binary
[12:24] <jrib> belgianguy: my guess is that it's because eclipse is not in your PATH.  Try just creating a symlink to the binary in ~/bin
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> belgianguy: make a copy of the current eclipse launcher in /usr/share/applications   and edit the Exec=  line. This will mean updates do not change your efforts, then drag it to the Unity launcher
[12:25] <belgianguy> ah k, will try those suggestions
[12:25] <belgianguy> thanks!
[12:25] <jrib> belgianguy: you can also check the .desktop file as ActionParsnip points out, but I'd suggest looking in ~/.local/share/applications since I believe that's where user .desktop files get created
[12:26] <belgianguy> jrib: yeah, it wasn't in local, the remnants of my web apps are there though
[12:26] <belgianguy> which I thought I uninstalled
[12:26] <jrib> belgianguy: k
[12:27] <Evon> hello
[12:30] <plzhelp> hi
[12:30] <jonascj> Hi everyone. I am trying to make a setup with xmonad (with xmobar) as window manager and without gnome but I am simply out of ideas with respect to how I can get volume, brightness indicators. Could anyone point me in the right direction
[12:30] <jonascj> hi plzhelp
[12:30] <Baribal> Hi. How can I update just a specific package and the ones it depends upon?
[12:31] <plzhelp> does anyone know how to force my system to update, it's failing to load the files, and it doesn't show any system updates available in update manager
[12:31] <plzhelp> (i'm using 11.04 natty narwhal)
[12:31] <Evon> I tried to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my desktop computer and I've had quite a bit of problems with it. I suspect it has something to do with my Nvidia GTX460 video card because the graphics gets rendered all weird.  I also get a lot of errors when trying to install stuff with the software centre.  I've decided to install 12.04 instead (it's installing right  now).  I was just wondering if ubuntu inherently has problems wi
[12:31] <Evon> th nvidia cards?
[12:32] <jrib> Baribal: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[12:32] <jrib> !11.04 | plzhelp
[12:32] <Baribal> install handles upgrades too? Wow, didn't know that... Thanks, jrib
[12:33] <jrib> plzhelp: you should upgrade to a supported release.  11.04 is no longer supported which may mean the repositories aren't available where they were before and may explain your issues
[12:33] <EMPHASIS_> I've got lots of DVD ISOs but want to rip the main movies out to AVI, MP4. etc to save space.  What's a good ripper app to use?
[12:33] <jonascj> emphasis_: ffmpeg is very nice tool
[12:34] <jrib> EMPHASIS_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/RippingDVDs
[12:34] <jonascj> emphasis_: it's a command line tool though
[12:34] <plzhelp> i should, and i've been trying to for months, question is, how can i upgrade? (whithout reformatting my disk)
[12:34] <sree> I want to build a Linux based OS which is custom made for only one application and is totally light-weight and uses minimum system resources. How do I go about this?  Would stripping down an already existing OS such as Ubuntu be a good idea? i found tinycorelinux helpful. do u suggest any better option than this
[12:34] <jrib> !eolupgrades | plzhelp
[12:34] <Jjordan> im sorry to be a pain actionparsnip but for the java all i see is to put in a code :s
[12:35] <jrib> !remaster | sree
[12:35] <AxonetBE> I add in ubuntu the repo of chris lea ( chris-lea/zeromq ) but it use 3.2.2, and I want to use the 2.2.0.1-1chl1~lucid1, how can I specify this when I add a new repo for ubuntu?
[12:35] <jrib> !pin | AxonetBE
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Jjordan: yes, run the 3 commands and it will install oracle java
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Jjordan: was that not obvious?
[12:36] <EMPHASIS_> jonascj: thanks
[12:36] <Blauskae1M> Hello, does anyone in here know how ubuntu one was implemented?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Blauskae1M: can you expand the question pleas
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> blaprobably using C++ / C and Python
[12:37] <Blauskae1M> ActionParsnip: I want to make my own cloud network
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Blauskae1M: have you tried owncloud?
[12:37] <Blauskae1M> ActionParsnip: More which programs they used and so on
[12:37] <Blauskae1M> ActionParsnip: No, is it good?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Blauskae1M: i know a few peopl ewho use it
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Blauskae1M: check it out, might fit your needs
[12:38] <negi> hi
[12:38] <Blauskae1M> ActionParsnip: looks good
[12:38] <negi> hell sir
[12:38] <Blauskae1M> ActionParsnip: Do you know if they have clients for both windows and linux?
[12:38] <negi> hi
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Blauskae1M: i'd imagine so
[12:40] <Blauskae1M> ActionParsnip: Thank you for the tip ActionParsnip, will look into it tonight :)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Blauskae1M: http://owncloud.org/sync-clients/  yes
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Blauskae1M: also has android :)
[12:40] <negi> no sir good'
[12:42] <negi> no sir
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> negi: do you have a support question?
[12:43] <negi> ok so tell me
[12:43] <satdav_> can anyone tell me does ubuntu come pre installed with django
[12:43] <cfhowlett> negi, what do you need help with.
[12:43] <AxonetBE> jrib: but how to add for example this specific version to the sources https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/zeromq/+build/3592392
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> negi: tell you what?
[12:44] <jrib> AxonetBE: what does « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » return at the moment?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> satdav_, doesn't appear in the repos so no.
[12:44] <satdav_> cfhowlett, its https://www.djangoproject.com
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> satdav_: run:  sudo apt-get install python-django
[12:45] <satdav_> what version is it running ActionParsnip
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> negi: we aren't psychic, despite what you may have heard
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !info python-django
[12:45] <satdav_> how would i update that
[12:45] <satdav_> on the template
[12:45] <negi> yes i have android cell phone sir
[12:45] <AxonetBE> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4555708
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> satdav_: there may be a ppa
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !android
[12:46] <jrib> AxonetBE: ok, good.  So now what does the link ubottu gave you say to do?
[12:46] <satdav_> how can check that out ActionParsnip
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | satdav_
[12:48] <jrib> AxonetBE: also, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html has addition examples (it's linked at the bottom of ubottu's page)
[12:48] <satdav_> how do i update the one on the ubottu repo
[12:49] <AxonetBE> jrib: but that is to pin versions, the old version was never installed on that server
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> satdav_: you don't, that is the job of the repo maintainers
[12:49] <satdav_> do you know who they are
[12:49] <jrib> AxonetBE: yes, do you not want to pin versions?  What do you want to do then?
[12:50] <AxonetBE> install a previous version of the package
[12:50] <Evon> what's the terminal command to exit x?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> satdav_: the ppas will probably have a laterversion
[12:50] <jrib> AxonetBE: this isn't what you asked... Can you be more specific.  What version is it that you want to install?  And for what package?
[12:55] <AxonetBE> jrib: I will give you the situation. We have a production server running libzmq-dev 2.2.0-1chl1~lucid1 installed from repo https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/zeromq/. Now if we boot are staging server it use the same repo but since zeromq is updated it installs version 3.2.2-1chl1~lucid1 of  libzmq-dev, but one Ruby gem that depends on zeromq does not work with the latest version. So I want to install version libzmq-dev 2.2.0-1chl1~lucid
[12:56] <jrib> AxonetBE: if the repository has been updated to 3.2.2 then you need to grab the source package for the old version and build debs for that version (or just grab the debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/ on your production server)
[12:56] <jrib> AxonetBE: actually you have the debs there on the launchpad page.  Afaik, you won't be able to get that old version through apt with that repo anymore
[12:57] <AxonetBE> jrib: ok that is sad, because we use chef to automatize this process.
[12:57] <jrib> AxonetBE: you could make your own ppa
[12:59] <AxonetBE> jrib: can it be also in another folder then /var/cache/apt/archives/ becaude that is empty on production
[13:00] <atlef> !uefi
[13:00] <jrib> AxonetBE: that's the only place I know of that apt stores debs it downloads.  But the launchpad link you gave also has the .deb files at the bottom of the page
[13:01] <rikimaru90> Hey guys, is there a way to move a program from one workspace to the other like you can on Cinnamon?
[13:02] <remd> Hello, anyone knows how to change the default language from the command line ?
[13:02] <atlef> rikimaru90: right click window and select to send to workspaces
[13:03] <remd> I generated the locales, changed the conf at several places like /etc/default/locale .profile .bashrc etc… dpkg-reconfigure will just show all languages but not let me modify. I seem to run into this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/belocs-locales-bin/+bug/48573
[13:03] <remd> Any advice ?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> remd: there is a text config file I am aware of, let me check
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> remd: in /etc/default/keyboard
[13:04] <rikimaru90> atlef, I don't see such option?
[13:05] <atlef> rikimaru90: right clicking on windows title line top of window?
[13:06] <remd> :ActionParsnip I don't have that file in the /etc/default folder, should I create it ?
[13:07] <rikimaru90> atlef, Do you mean where file, edit and help drop downs are?
[13:07] <atlef> top of window
[13:08] <atlef> where the name of window is
[13:08] <remd> :ActionParsnip Thanks for the help anyway, I'll google some more ..
[13:09] <jrib> remd: what is it that you want to do?  You said you generated the locales and set them up in /etc/default/locale, so now what?
[13:09] <usr13> remd: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[13:09] <remd> well part of the system like apt is still in German…and "locale" shows the default local is German and I can't change that..
[13:09] <remd> 10.0.4
[13:10] <remd> 10.04
[13:10] <jrib> remd: what's in /etc/default/locale now?
[13:10] <remd> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[13:11] <jrib> remd: and what's the output of « loacle »?
[13:11] <jrib> erm, typo
[13:11] <remd> (I tired with and without "", didnt change..)
[13:11] <usr13> remd: Is that what you want?
[13:11] <remd> yep
[13:11] <usr13> remd: Try:  LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[13:11] <remd> locale shows de_DE… for all
[13:11] <jrib> remd: so did you reboot since editing /etc/default/locale?
[13:12] <remd> I logged out/in not reboot.I'd rather avoid if possble (distant vm.)
[13:12] <remd> usr13 I tried that it didnt help..
[13:13] <jrib> remd: well I doubt anything will read /etc/default/locale unless you reboot or "do something"
[13:13] <remd> well I tried dpkg-reconfigure but that didnt seem to work..
[13:13] <ioria> remd: do you have a /usr/share/doc/keyboard-configuration ?
[13:14] <remd> ioria: no
[13:14] <ioria> remd: f....
[13:15] <_raven> jrib ActionParsnip www.pastebin.com/zhN1QPkB nautilus-dropbox is now solved but the linux-* packages still have problems and are not reinstallable
[13:15] <jrib> _raven: you're still pasting things in a language I do not understand :/
[13:16] <zalun> hi, I'd like to configure synaptics via config files - where should I find it?
[13:16] <jrib> remd: ah, actually seems like pam digs into /etc/default/locale
[13:16] <ikonia> zalun: what do you want to change ?
[13:16] <zalun> looking to implement https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Natural_Scrolling
[13:17] <_raven> jrib ill upload a translated version
[13:17] <zalun> ikonia: and althought I could switch to the default WM to configure that I believe this setting is not present
[13:17] <ikonia> zalun: you'll need to make an xorg.conf
[13:17] <zalun> interesting :)
[13:17] <zalun> ikonia: thx
[13:17] <jrib> remd: you should check if you have something overriding your locale settings elsewhere though. Maybe: /etc/environment, /etc/bash*, /etc/profile*, ~/.bash*, ~/.profile*, ~/.pam_environment .  Look for LANG or LANGUAGE, etc....
[13:17] <satdav_> found a bug
[13:17] <satdav_> with ubunto desktop
[13:17] <jrib> _raven: you don't need to translate, just prefix your command with "LANGUAGE=C LANG=C "
[13:17] <ikonia> satdav_: log it then
[13:18] <ikonia> !bug | satdav_
[13:18] <remd> jribI've checked some of them already, but will check further
[13:18] <_raven> jrib yes i do
[13:19] <_raven> jrib ActionParsnip www.pastebin.com/m9FryqDq
[13:19] <satdav_> how do i pre install firefox on desktop
[13:19] <jrib> satdav_: doesn't ubuntu come with firefox?
[13:19] <ioria> remd: loadkeys de ?
[13:20] <jrib> _raven: output of « uname -r »?
[13:20] <ikonia> satdav_: it's already installed
[13:20] <remd> ioria: what will that do ?
[13:20] <_raven> jrib 3.0.5-19 generic
[13:20] <satdav_> what build does it use
[13:21] <ioria> remd: load the german keys ... but maybe you need console-tools
[13:21] <jrib> _raven: you're sure?
[13:21] <zalun> ikonia: wouldn't it be sufficient to just create the directory and the file?
[13:21] <ikonia> !info firefox
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> satdav_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[13:21] <ikonia> zalun: what directory and file ?
[13:21] <_raven> jrib thats uname -r
[13:21] <zalun> ikonia: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> _raven: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.5.0-21-generic
[13:21] <remd> ioria: will look at that option..
[13:21] <remd> thx
[13:21] <ikonia> zalun: does ubuntu use xorg.conf.d.....
[13:22] <jrib> _raven: you're sure it's 3.0.5 and not 3.5.0?
[13:22] <_raven> jrib ah i see sry 3.5.0-19 gen
[13:22] <zalun> ikonia: does it? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[13:22] <cfhowlett> zalun, enter whereis synaptic in your terminal
[13:23] <jonascj> Hi everyone. I'm trying to make a xmonad+xmobar setup in Ubuntu 12.10 but it is giving me a hard time. I would like to just run the gnome-settings-daemon to take care of laptop hotkeys (vol, brigghtness ect.) but when starting the gnome-settings-daemon (in the xmonad session) i get warnings such as: "gnome keyring:: couldn't connec to pkcs11", "Unable to register client: GDBUS". Does anyone...
[13:23] <jonascj> ...have any experince?
[13:23] <ikonia> zalun: that's an xorg.conf...that has nothing to do with the question I just asked you
[13:23] <zalun> cfhowlett: synaptic:
[13:23] <zalun> and that's it
[13:23] <_raven> ActionParsnip anything like "internal error, no file name for linux-image-3.5.0-21-generic:386"
[13:23] <jrib> jonascj: are you using a dm?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> _raven: what is the output of:  uname -a
[13:23] <ioria> remd: look also for setxkbmap -layout
[13:24] <usr13> satdav_: Are you just wanting an icon?
[13:24] <thehumanelement> I need help please, I just installed Ubuntu 12.10, got Unity up, did all the updates, installed FGRLX and rebooted. Now I am looking at the desktop, no Unity, no nothing. I did get a "System problem detected" (which happen quite frequently in any case) and also got a "Your Ethernet network connection is up".
[13:24] <jonascj> jrib: I am using lightdm (all i did was apt-get install xmonad in a fresh Ubuntu 12.10 and a xmonad session was made available via the lightdm login screen - and now i'm trying to customize it to load what I need ect.)
[13:24] <jrib> remd, ioria: I think remd just needs to make sure LANG and LANGUAGE get set to right instead of to german.  Not sure that keyboard layout would be necessarily related
[13:24] <thehumanelement> Ctrl+T brings up the terminal
[13:25] <_raven> ActionParsnip linux 3.5.0-19 #30-Ubuntu SMP November 13 i686 i868 GNU/Linux
[13:25] <ioria> jrib: true
[13:25] <ioria> my bad
[13:25] <jrib> jonascj: I see.  I use ~/.xsession, then select user xsession script from lightdm.  In there I make sure to start gnome-keyring with « eval $(gnome-keyring-daemon --start) ».  I start dbus in there too (see « man dbus-launch »)
[13:26] <zalun> http://askubuntu.com/questions/26290/50-synaptics-conf-options-not-working it should read from it - checking
[13:27] <jrib> i868 :x
[13:28] <cecilia> hello guys, i've just installed 10.10 but for whatever reason i got the GRUB menu at startup even tho i don't have multiple OS running. How do i get rid of this without messing up things?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> _raven: mkdir ~/kern; cd ~/kern; wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.5.0-21-generic_3.5.0-21.32_i386.deb; wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/125464921/linux-image-extra-3.5.0-21-generic_3.5.0-21.32_i386.deb; sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> _raven: manual style :)
[13:28] <jonascj> jrib: a couple of insalls ago (i've been at this for two days) I made a setup which used ~/.xsession so I could do that again. Do you know if gnome keyring needs any special arguments upon invocation?
[13:29] <usr13> thehumanelement: Look at xrandr
[13:29] <jrib> jonascj: --start will start it as well as spit out the environment variables you need to set
[13:29] <thehumanelement> okay, looked at it
[13:29] <thehumanelement> what am I looking for?
[13:29] <usr13> thehumanelement: What screensize are you using?
[13:30] <thehumanelement> just noticed that fglrx isn't in lsmod
[13:30] <thehumanelement> that's not a good sign
[13:30] <thehumanelement> 1920x1080
[13:30] <usr13> thehumanelement: is it relative to your monitor?
[13:30] <thehumanelement> yeah, that is the native res for my monitor
[13:30] <thehumanelement> there is only one display adaptor in this system, only one monitor
[13:30] <usr13> thehumanelement: Ok, well, that's not it.
[13:30] <thehumanelement> DVI
[13:30] <thehumanelement> nope, maybe it's something to do with fglrx not being installed correctly
[13:30] <ethang> anyone know where the htdocs directory for Apache is?
[13:31] <usr13> thehumanelement: Tell us again what the desktop looked like?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ethang: could ask in #httpd too
[13:31] <thehumanelement> it's literally just the wallpaper
[13:31] <ethang> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:31] <jrib> remd: you find anything overriding LANG or LANGUAGE in one of those files I listed?
[13:31] <thehumanelement> it looked fine before I did the updates on top of the 12.10 iso
[13:32] <nomike> hi
[13:32] <thehumanelement> or before I installed fglrx
[13:32] <thehumanelement> now I just get a "System problem detected box" after a "Your Ethernet is go" notif
[13:32] <usr13> thehumanelement: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1068411
[13:32] <thehumanelement> and then a blank desktop
[13:32] <thehumanelement> it's a 7750
[13:33] <thehumanelement> and it worked a few weeks ago, but then I switched to Fedora temporarily
[13:33] <usr13> thehumanelement: remove the drivers and restart unity.
[13:34] <thehumanelement> okay, I will try that next, I just tried a dpkg-reconfigure fglrx fglrx-amdcccle xorg
[13:34] <thehumanelement> no worky, okay will try apt-get remove those drivers
[13:34] <usr13> thehumanelement: DId you follow the link?
[13:35] <usr13> thehumanelement: Or have you already read it?
[13:35] <jonascj> jrib: Thank you for helping. "gnome-keyring-daemon --start" reports "Message: couldn't access conrol socket: /run/user/jonas/keyring-SjkH2N/control" (the same keyring-sJkH2N which is in the original gnome-keyring warning)
[13:35] <thehumanelement> didn't follow it, I thought it wouldn't impact my card
[13:35] <thehumanelement> as it isn't in that range
[13:35] <thehumanelement> am reaidng it now
[13:35] <nomike> I have a WS who's LAN connection is managed by network manager. I now want to add some search domains. I opened "System Settings" --> "Network" --> "Wired" --> "Options" --> "IPv4 Settings" and wrote "mydomain.com, myseconddomain.com, mythirddomain.com" into "Additional search domains"
[13:35] <usr13> thehumanelement: I don't really know if it is relevant or not but look and see.
[13:36] <thehumanelement> it does seem similar
[13:36] <thehumanelement> thanks
[13:36] <jrib> jonascj: echo $GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL
[13:36] <nomike> However it doesn't work (I cant resolve "blubb.mydomain.com" by just using "blubb"). Also "/etc/resolv.conf" does not contain "search " entries for them. There is only one entry which I get from DHCP.
[13:36] <jonascj> ethang: if you haven't alrady found out it is in /var/www/ (look in /etc/apache/sites-available for the vhost configs, they point to the htdocs also)
[13:37] <remd> argh update-locale seemed to have updated some locales, but when I reboot tried dpkg-reconfigure it went back to DE, and now update-locale doesnt do anything anymore…  So still looking..
[13:37] <usr13> thehumanelement: NP
[13:37] <jonascj> jrib: well that is not the same keyring which is mentioned in the warnings. So should I somehow manually point to this keyring when invoking the gnome keyring?
[13:38] <_raven> jrib ActionParsnip ok manual install solved the problem tnx :)
[13:39] <thehumanelement> I hope this works...
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> _raven: yay
[13:40] <usr13> remd: Did you do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup  ?
[13:42] <jrib> jonascj: is your gnome-keyring already be started somehow?
[13:43] <remd> jrib: yep set all to USA , but still have "DE" in locale
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> remd: did you check the file I gave you
[13:45] <jonascj> jrib: I have to switch this chat to the desktop computer so I can freely restart this laptop to investigate. I'll be back with the answer in a few minutes (again thank you for helping out, not just me, but for hanging out here, communities need that and luckily we have people who do that)
[13:45] <remd> Still going through those files… everything I see so far is all set to "en_US.." but my locale are still in DE.
[13:47] <stigrancazzi> nickserv register stigrancazzi francescomelani@alice.it
[13:47] <stigrancazzi> \join italiano
[13:48] <usr13> remd: dpkg-reconfigure locales  ?
[13:48] <remd> usr13: results in this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/belocs-locales-bin/+bug/48573
[13:49] <jrib> remd: you shouldn't need to do that though
[13:50] <stigrancazzi> \list
[13:51] <jonascj> jrib: After a reboot and login to the xmonad-session (setup by Ubuntu) "ps aux | grep gnome" shows pid 1805 is "/usr/bin/gnome-keyring -daemon --daemonize --login"
[13:52] <FunkyELF> I installed a new video card (AMD 7770) and I'm trying to get tear-free playback of 1080P video but seem unable to.  I see mplayer, X.org and cinnamon hogging the CPU.  Any ideas?
[13:54] <KylieBrooks> hello
[13:54] <usr13> remd: What's that comment by "Rolf Leggewie (r0lf) wrote on 2008-02-08:" ?
[13:54] <KylieBrooks> not a new user here
[13:54] <KylieBrooks> but hi
[13:54] <mokujin> hi, anybody here speak Russian?
[13:54] <KylieBrooks> and im just getting ubunntu now
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !ru|mokujin,
[13:55] <jrib> jonascj: without starting anything?  Just selecting xmonad in lightdm and logging in?
[13:55] <Achylles> How do I install Arch in a windows 8 laptop with all that EFI issues?
[13:55] <remd> usr13: dunno the link is 404
[13:56] <KylieBrooks> befre i get ubuntu
[13:56] <KylieBrooks> i just need a reminder
[13:56] <remd> thx for the help, I've been on this fopr the past 3hrs I'll take a break...
[13:56] <mokujin> !ru|mokujin
[13:56] <KylieBrooks> so uh
[13:56] <jonascj> jrib: yup - of course there is a million configs / potential shell scripts lying all over the place (.desktops, .sessions ect.). Some of those might have it specified
[13:56] <KylieBrooks> so uh
[13:56] <KylieBrooks> i manly really only use windows to browse the internet
[13:57] <KylieBrooks> and play games occassionally
[13:57] <mokujin> the Russian channel - requires registration, okay then ask for the English with Google translator ...
[13:57] <Achylles> How do I install Ubuntu in a windows 8 laptop with all that EFI issues?
[13:57] <jrib> jonascj: well there's some stuff in /etc/xdg/autostart dealing with gnome-keyring.  But pam is also suppose to start gnome-keyring if you login (with your password I believe).  So I'd guess pam starts it
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Achylles, ask in #archlinux ... not supported here
[13:57] <imacake> Meow. Hi.
[13:57] <geektech713> Can't install ubuntu on Windows 8 because Microsoft put protected boot
[13:58] <geektech713> maybe if you did Wubi thru windows 8
[13:58] <mokujin> How do I install Windows on a computer that already has Ubuntu?
[13:58] <PatrickDickey> I thought it depended on whether the manufacturer allowed you to set up Secure Boot or not.
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !uefi|geektech713,
[13:59] <stigrancazzi> ciao!!
[13:59] <PatrickDickey> mokujin you simply run the Windows DVD and install it. If you want to dual-boot, you'll have to set things up before hand. Then you'll have to run a Live CD to get GRUB working again.
[14:00] <jrib> jonascj: I guess first thing to do is check what the environment looks like (does it mention anything about the keyring) after you first login.  Then do « gnome-keyring-deamon --start » which should just output the info for the already-running keyring-deamon.  Then starting your app with that info in the environment and see if anything changes
[14:00] <imacake> I'd need some little help with networking. Tried setting up qemu TAP/TUN things and now 'eth0' isnt even there.
[14:00] <jrib> jonascj: then maybe killing the existing one and starting a new one and see if the apps like it better.  That should give you some sort of info about what's happening anyway
[14:01]  * PatrickDickey wonders where kernel panic logs are stored before the system completely dies...
[14:02] <Achylles> mokujin, The thing is that the laptop came with Win8 p pre-installed
[14:02] <AtuM> Hello.. I'm having issues trying to upgrade kernel on 12.04 desktop.. mkinitramfs keeps failing after packager runs dpkg --configure linux-image<version>. Can someone help me solve it? I've already done "apt-get install --reinstall initramfs-tools"
[14:03] <jrib> jonascj: you said you run gnome-settings-daemon too?
[14:03] <AtuM> there's also a bunch of old kernels on the system.. only the 3.2.0-27 runs normally.. the newer ones don't
, Yes, I want to boot the computer, I had a choice - what to boot, windows (xp) or ubuntu, that's just the question of how to do it the easiest way
[14:03] <jonascj> jrib: the environment have to variables: "GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/run/user/jonas/keyring-xxxxx" and "GNOME_KEYRING_PID=xyz".
[14:04] <PatrickDickey> AtuM could you pastebin the original error for us please? Without knowing why it's failing, we probably can't help you. But, I'd venture a guess that you have proposed updates checked, and it's not ready for public consumption.
[14:04] <jrib> jonascj: and that's the right pid for what you see in ps aux?
[14:04] <politron> Hello
[14:04] <politron> I dont know if someone here can help me
[14:04] <cfhowlett> politron, greetings
[14:04] <imacake> Can haz some help with networking ?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> politron ask your question ... details matter
[14:04] <politron> I'm trying to configure tomcat6 to run in port 80 and afeter read and try all internet posted soluition I still cannot
[14:04] <politron> prermisions denied to connect on port 80
[14:04] <PatrickDickey> mokujin Probably your easiest way is to create a partition for Windows XP. Then install that. Afterwards, run your ubuntu Live CD and update grub.
[14:05] <PatrickDickey> !grub | mokujin
[14:05] <jonascj> jrib: This whole show is undertaken because I would like to use gnome-settings-daemon but when i start it warnings are reported (for example that the keyring cannot connect to something) and I just kn ow those warnings will come back to haunt me so I try to deal with them :P
[14:05] <imacake> 'ifup eth0' outputs dhcp which assigns a correct lan address. but things just dont work anyway.
[14:05] <imacake> like pinging google gives no output
[14:05] <politron> I try ipTables, put in the tomcat default file  authbd=yes even run tomcat as root and nothing
[14:05] <PatrickDickey> What's wrong with your network imacake?
[14:05] <jrib> jonascj: I see.  So now when you start gnome-settings-daemon, what does it complain about?  Is it the same as what's pointed to in GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL?
[14:05] <mokujin> ok. thx all
[14:06] <imacake> PatrickDickey: i have a LAN connection to my router, but i tried getting QEMU TUN/TAP things working, which failed, and I didn't delete anything from config files(only added),
[14:07] <coinup> hi, is there anyone that know where i can find the power management settings of ubuntu, like processor speed and so on?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:07] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, pastebin.com/af30u6k3
[14:07] <imacake> in network manager no wired connections are listed at all.
[14:07] <imacake> and if i issue ifup eth0, dhcp address assignment seems to work, but pinging still fails.
[14:08] <AtuM> Kernel upgrades fail on my 12.04 desktop.. every time the same problem with mkinitramfs http://pastebin.com/af30u6k3
[14:09] <PatrickDickey> AtuM try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:09] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, almost identical output
[14:09] <jonascj> jrib: It appears gnome-keyring-daemon is started with --daemonize and --login upon login (i can see it in ps aux) with a pid matching the environment variable GNOME_KEYRING_PID but it appears the gnome-keyring-daemon is killed again at some point. In a previous session 5min ago it was gone when i did ps aux and I did not kill it manually (right now I'm waiting for it to happen again)
[14:10] <AtuM> post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[14:10] <jrib> jonascj: weird.
[14:10] <PatrickDickey> AtuM do you have proposed updates checked in your Software Settings?
[14:10] <AtuM> yes
[14:11] <AtuM> The kernel updates install, but then fail at post-install with mkinitramfs..
[14:11] <PatrickDickey> AtuM go into Software Sources and uncheck that. I can attest personally, that sometimes the kernel updates aren't ready in Proposed, and you get this problem.
[14:11] <AtuM> oh... let me check the "proposed updates" stat...
[14:12] <jonascj> jrib: I disappeared again not (after similar to 2 minutes of being logged in). But the envvars of course stay
[14:12] <imacake> mew?
[14:12] <jonascj> jrib: *it disappeared (not I)
[14:12] <jrib> jonascj: so that must be the issue, it comes back as something new and your environment doesn't know about. Now as to why it died, I have no idea
[14:13] <jrib> jonascj: maybe check ~/.xsession-errors
[14:14] <PatrickDickey> AtuM sudo dpkg --remove --pending will get rid of the updates that are failing. After that, and after you've verfied that Proposed are not checked in Software Sources, you should be able to update and upgrade again.
[14:15] <jonascj> jrib: .xsession-erros is empty (warnings appear if I try to include gnome-settings-daemon in the start up scripts of course, but right now I'm just trying to start things manually after login to get a better idea of what is going on)
[14:15] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, precise-proposed is disabled
[14:15] <jonascj> jrib: but the keyring could be killed again for various reasons I guess. If it is no longer needed (after all no other gnome-stuff is being launched)
[14:17] <PatrickDickey> AtuM try the command that I just gave you then. And then try your sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (or sudo apt-get upgrade)
[14:19] <jrib> jonascj: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/RunningDaemon take a look at this
[14:20] <usr13> PatrickDickey: do-release-upgrade ?
[14:21] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, I don't want to dist-upgrade.. 12.04 is just fine.. as long as i get it to work
[14:22] <imacake> please help,
[14:22] <Pici> AtuM: dist-upgrade does not mean move to the next release.
[14:22] <imacake> in the network manager applet i get "Wired network" and below it "device not managed"
[14:23] <AtuM> Pici, ok
[14:24] <imacake> meow ? anyone?
[14:24] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, ok.. apt-get dist-upgrade  gave me the same result as all previous update attempts
[14:24] <llutz> imacake: check /etc/network/interfaces if the iface is already configured there
[14:25] <freakynl> hi, what's the mysql password after install? According to several sites (older versions) it should prompt for the pw on installation
[14:25] <freakynl> it did not :/
[14:25] <imacake> eth0 was not there, only lo and br0 (which i added according to some qemu tuntap guide),
[14:26] <usr13> PatrickDickey: AtuM https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/769116 ?
[14:26] <jonascj> jrib: it appears the keyring is killed becausee it was not further initialized with "gnome-keyring-daemon --start". If I run "gnome-keyring-daemon --start" right after login it starts without reporting any errors. I'll go on to try gnome-settings-daemon (which was what reported those keyring warnings in the first place)
[14:26] <usr13> PatrickDickey: AtuM https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/769116 ?
[14:26] <usr13> sorry,
[14:27] <AtuM> usr13, something like this, yes
[14:28] <PatrickDickey> AtuM how long has this been happening?
[14:28] <jonascj> imacake what does your /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf look like?
[14:28] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, for half a year now
[14:28] <imacake> llutz: auto eth0 <newline> iface eth0 inet dhcp (this is /etc/network/interfaces)
[14:28] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, it's my coworker's laptop.. I used to set grub to default to an older kernel
[14:29] <PatrickDickey> AtuM well that ruled out my dpkg --purge --pending and wait until tomorrow to update, plan then.
[14:29] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, I should fix it...
[14:29] <imacake> jonascj: file doesnt exist. NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf does instead ?
[14:29] <llutz> imacake: thats why networkmanager doesn't manage this device. either remove it from /etc/network/interfaces or configure it there
[14:29] <jonascj> imacake: yes
[14:30] <imacake> [main] <newline> plugins=ifupdown,keyfile <newline> dns=dnsmasq
[14:30] <imacake> [ifupdown] managed=false
[14:30] <killer> what is the name of package in ubuntu  that lets in xmonad enter command by using alt-p
[14:30] <AtuM> PatrickDickey, I remember doing something to crypt because at some point it didn't ask for password at boot time.. that might have set off all this
[14:31] <jonascj> imacake: also do what llutz says - remove it the eth0 line from /etc/network/interfaces - i didn't realize this because you said in words that eth0 wasn't there (imacake	eth0 was not there, only lo and br0 )
[14:31] <usr13> AtuM: PatrickDickey What about Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD ?
[14:32] <imacake> jonascj: yes, i tried fixing it that way. On the other hand i have br0 in interfaces, which has 'bridge_ports eth0'. Will that still work ?
[14:32] <imacake> now i removed eth0
[14:32] <imacake> how do i restart networkmanager ?
[14:32] <PatrickDickey> AtuM and usr13 if AtuM wants to upgrade, that would be a good plan. I think what his issue is right now, is that he's trying to update to the latest kernel available for 12.04, and it's failing.
[14:33] <usr13> imacake: service NetworkManager restart
[14:33] <imacake> NetworkManager: unrecognized service.
[14:33] <jonascj> imacake: that's probably because a vpn guide you followed or the like specified you to bridge something  to eth0. So removing eth0 lines from /etc/network/interfaces might break some vpn setup or the like
[14:33] <usr13> imacake: service network-manager restart
[14:33] <PatrickDickey> AtuM Was that the /home encryption that you were talking about? That shouldn't affect updates. However full-drive encryption might.
[14:34] <imacake> usr13: thanks!
[14:34] <imacake> restarted. Still 'device not managed' in the icon's dropdown menu.
[14:35] <jonascj> imacake (if it still does not work would you please show the /etc/network/interface via http://paste.ubuntu.com because reading it in the chat is a bit confusing, typos ect.)
[14:35] <PatrickDickey> imacake out of curiosity, where are you reading the QEMU guide from? They *should* walk you through getting everything set up properly.
[14:35] <imacake> PatrickDickey: i did. Well, I dont know myself where i made the mistake.
[14:35] <imacake> sec, ill get the link..
[14:36] <PatrickDickey> imacake if they have other options for using the eth0, I'd try one of those. NAT or something else.
[14:36]  * PatrickDickey this is why I stick with Virtualbox or VMWare...
[14:36] <usr13> imacake: I think if you have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for a device, it will show "Device not managed" in network-manager.
[14:37] <imacake> i wanted to link multiple qemu virtual things together, wanted to learn networking so started experimenting.
[14:37] <remd> ok the right file to update was apparently /etc/profile then update-locale and it worked, any other conf file isnt taken in consideration in this setup apparently..
[14:37] <jrib> remd: what did you put in /etc/profile?
[14:37] <imacake> http://toast.djw.org.uk/qemu.html this guide
[14:37] <PatrickDickey> imacake try checking this link please http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[14:38] <remd> export LANG="en_US.utf8"
[14:38] <remd> export LANGUAGE="en_US.utf8"
[14:38] <remd> export LC_ALL="en_US.utf8"
[14:38] <jrib> remd: was anything there before?
[14:38] <remd> yep same with DE...
[14:38] <jrib> remd: you should just get rid of all that
[14:38] <remd> I overlooked this file until now.I was in /etc/default/locale ~/.Profile /etc/environement etc.. but not that one..
[14:39] <remd> anyway its working how I want it to now :)
[14:39] <jrib> remd: if you get rid of those lines, the setting from /etc/default/locale shouldn't be overridden
[14:39] <remd> oh ok thx for the tip
[14:39] <usr13> remd: I have a much different /etc/profile in my 10.04 system.
[14:40] <jonascj> jrib: now I get those dbus-erros. Did you have a suggestion as how to start digging into those? (gnome-settings-daemon:1996) WARNING **: Unable to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The Name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any service files"
[14:40] <remd> either way they both shoe en_US now
[14:40] <usr13> remd: Well, if it works, it works.
[14:40] <jrib> jonascj: well you probably don't have a session manager :P  You could start gnome-session if you want I guess.  I don't bother with this
[14:40] <jrib> remd: the reason I suggest removing those lines is because a few months from now when you go to change your locale you will again be stumped :)
[14:41] <PatrickDickey> imacake: two questions. 1. Did you follow that guide exactly, including the IP Addresses? 2. Before you followed the guide, was your IP Address a 192.168.1.x number?
[14:41] <imacake> PatrickDickey: both yes.
[14:41] <remd> yea, after the hrs I spent now, I'm not sure I'll forget this any time soon! :) but good tip, I'll go ahead and comment it in the profile file..
[14:41] <remd> so the default locale settings apply
[14:42] <imacake> i read that askubuntu thing, and i got a "connection estabilished" popup.
[14:42] <imacake> pinging google, however, fails.
[14:42] <PatrickDickey> imacake, what does ifconfig eth0 show for an IP address?
[14:42] <jonascj> jrib: to be honest I didn't even know there was such a thing as the dbus untill I tried xmonad and got all these errors. So would you suggest I just forget all about dbus and the session-manager (which might be the reason for the dbus warnings)?
[14:43] <usr13> remd: I have a 10.04 system with /etc/profile and it looks like this:  http://pastebin.com/4Whergqx
[14:43] <imacake> 192.168.2.100, the one as always, so thats good.
[14:43] <PatrickDickey> Ahhh. We have a winner. You said you followed the guide exactly, including the IP Addresses they list, correct imacake?
[14:43] <imacake> yes
[14:43] <jrib> jonascj: if the system behaves as you want without it, then I wouldn't bother
[14:44] <imacake> I dont know why br0 should be killing my normal network...
[14:44] <PatrickDickey> imacakeYou need to change their IP Addresses from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.2.x because your network is on 192.168.2.x.
[14:44] <imacake> oh.
[14:46] <PatrickDickey> and imacake you want to make sure that the IP Addresses you use are not ones that are in use on your network.  Typically your router is either 192.168.2.1 or 192.168.2.254.
[14:46] <imacake> changed. Still I don't know how br0 relates to eth0... and pinging google still fails.
[14:46] <jrib> jonascj: the one nice thing you may miss is that when you exit using the session manager it might warn you: hey you haven't saved your doc in gedit!.  Without it, well goodbye doc :)
[14:46] <usr13> imacake: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[14:46] <imacake> my router is 102.168.2.1, and this one is not in use, im sure of that. (the .100 one).
[14:47] <PatrickDickey> br0 is bridge connection 0, eth0 is the first ethernet that your computer has (most likely the only one).  Everything in the computer world starts with 0 and works up from there.
[14:47] <imacake> ping 8.8.8.8 destination host unreachable.
[14:47] <usr13> imacake: what is the IP of your router?
[14:47] <PatrickDickey> imacake you need to choose something else for br0 than .100. That's what your eth0 is using.
[14:47] <imacake> PatrickDickey: I'm a C/C++ programmer.
[14:48] <imacake> (well, hobbyist)
[14:49] <imacake> PatrickDickey: i think i start understanding now...
[14:50] <PatrickDickey> imacake the way they relate is like this. Your QEMU is using virtual network cards. They have to connect to the physical network somehow. A bridge between them (br0) and eth0 is the way to do that.
[14:50] <hilo> hello. Is there a way to see what processes have memory which is swapped out? I am trying to see what's happening with my system. It has 16GiB physical RAM, is only using about 5, yet over 1.5GiB of swap is in use. Swappiness is set to 1.
[14:50] <usr13> hilo: htop
[14:50] <PatrickDickey> It's one way of doing that, I mean. You might be better off using NAT. But I'm not sure how that all works with QEMU. I typically use virtualbox, and on one computer, I have to use NAT, and on the other, bridged.
[14:51] <imacake> and br0 is that virtual network. and br0 acts like another dhcp client to my physical router ?
[14:51] <hilo> usr13, how can I see which processes are swapped out
[14:51] <hilo> usr13, I got that info from htop
[14:51] <usr13> hilo: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html
[14:51] <PatrickDickey> imacake sort of. it's a bridge connecting them. So your router thinks the virtual cards are physical cards.
[14:52] <imacake> cool.
[14:52] <sogeking99> Hey guys, can any one help me install ms-sys please. Step 1, unpack the archive:tar -xzvf ms-sys*.tgz Step 2, compile: cd ms-sys make Step 3, become root and install su (and give password) make install
[14:52] <sogeking99> I extracted the file with right click extract here. Then typed make from the folder in the terminal. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1541720/ what did I do wrong? This is the terminal output
[14:53] <llutz>  sogeking99 sudo apt-get install gettext
[14:54] <PatrickDickey> sogeking99 is there an INSTALL file or a README file in the directory? If so, that should give you the exact steps for compiling and installing.
[14:54] <imacake> PatrickDickey: So i killed the entire br0 block, do i need to restart the machine ?
[14:54] <fas> I'm having trouble mounting an external usb drive
[14:54] <jonascj> jrib: any notion of what applications might rely on this dbus?
[14:54] <hilo> usr13, I have plenty of free memory. And I understand the linux file cache. But according to htop, even including the file cache, only about 8GiB of the physical memory is in use.
[14:54] <sogeking99> llutz, What does this do?
[14:54] <fas> mount /dev/sdd1 tells me it's not found in fstab or mtab
[14:54] <jrib> jonascj: you mean on the session manager?
[14:55] <llutz> sogeking99: installs the package containing msgfmt
[14:55] <fas> How can I mount this drive?
[14:55]  * PatrickDickey is off to bed...  Night all (moring all really).
[14:55] <hilo> fas, you have to specify an empty directory to mount to
[14:55] <fas> I did
[14:55] <sogeking99> PatrickDickey, Yeah those steps I pasted are the install instructions.
[14:55] <fas> Same error
[14:55] <sogeking99> llutz, Sorry but I'm not sure what that is?
[14:55] <fas> mount -o /dev/sdd1 /mnt/mountpoint
[14:56] <banda>  /msg nickserv identify 989870ahdfoiaudnf*()&)(*&
[14:56] <imacake> damn, what do i do now? patrick left and i have no internet on my main computer x)
[14:56] <llutz> sogeking99: have you even read your own paste and seen those lines like "make: msgfmt: Command not found"
[14:56] <fas> banda, ouch
[14:56] <banda> oops
[14:56] <c2tarun> My one friend is still Using 10.10 and he is saying that when he is trying to install something he is not able to reach certain IPs. Is it possible that when Canonical closes support, repositories go down?
[14:56] <hilo> fas take away the -o
[14:56] <jrib> c2tarun: yes
[14:56] <fas> hilo, thanks
[14:56] <jrib> !eolupgrades | c2tarun
[14:56] <fas> that worked
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> fas: why the -o ?
[14:57] <fas> I saw it on a site
[14:57] <jrib> c2tarun: they're still available (so people can upgrade) but moved to a different place.  See ubottu
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> fas: you add -o for adding extra mount options
[14:57] <fas> ohhhh
[14:57] <fas> That makes sense
[14:57] <fas> Thanks for the info
[14:58] <jirido> Can someone inform me what theme engine synaptic use. the gtk theme is not effecting it anyway..
[14:59] <subdesign> anybody developing here? apt cant find mysql-admin :/
[14:59] <jonascj> jrib: No. "gnome-settings-daemon" complains "WARNING **: Unable to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The Name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any service files". So I figured that maybe some something related to dbus-somthing
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> !info  mysql-admin
[14:59] <subdesign> ah
[15:00] <subdesign> thanks
[15:00] <jrib> jonascj: it just means you don't have a session manager running.  If you run gnome-session, that should go away
[15:00] <llutz> subdesign: its mysqladmin and comes with mysql-client package
[15:00] <somsip> subdesign: mysqladmin as part of mysql-client innit?
[15:00] <somsip> snap!
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> subdesign: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1971381
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !info mysql-workbench
[15:00] <AtuM> I ran mkinitramfs manually and then ran update-grub.. now it works no failure anywhere.. what's the problem with post-install scripts?
[15:01] <subdesign> now clear. thanky again!
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> AtuM: i suggest you report a bug
[15:01] <jonascj> jrib: so it's not a problem with the dbus (don't know if applications uses this interprocess com bus) but a problem with the session manager?
[15:01] <jrib> jonascj: seems like it
[15:01] <AtuM> ActionParsnip, I will forward your idea to the user... he might rethink his distro choice :-)
[15:01] <AtuM> ActionParsnip, I will forward your idea to the user... he might rethink his distro choice :-)
[15:02] <acer_> are you chines
[15:02] <Pici> !Zh
[15:02] <acer_> china
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> AtuM: i see
[15:03] <AtuM> ActionParsnip, I have no beef with ubuntu.. I don't mind these quirks.. but he apparently does.. and then I have to solve things..
[15:04] <AtuM> ActionParsnip, the way I see it one has to learn his os
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> AtuM: as bugs get reportd, things get better
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> AtuM: a little learning helps a LOT
[15:05] <ncsquid22> test
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !test | ncsquid22
[15:05] <ncsquid22> thanks!
[15:05] <AtuM> ActionParsnip, oh.. if I was to report bugs that could be my job.. in the end that would be the end of my job ;-)
[15:05] <ncsquid22> How can enable/disable drivers in Ubuntu?
[15:06] <AtuM> gotta run.. have fun all
[15:06] <imacake> :3
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: driver for what?
[15:06] <ncsquid22> nic or video cards
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: which nic chip?
[15:07] <jrib> I didn't do it I swear
[15:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:08] <ncsquid22> Sorry, let me rephrase the question....you know how there are drivers already installed by default? well let's say i want to disable drivers for nVidea cards...
[15:08] <ncsquid22> how do you do it in Ubuntu?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: which nvidia GPU?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: does the system have a switchable GPU (optimus)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display      you will see the GPU
[15:09] <ncsquid22> Hi I found it...
[15:09] <ncsquid22> /etc/modprobe.d
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: oh you mean blacklisting?
[15:10] <ncsquid22> I can blacklist it there
[15:10] <ncsquid22> yup
[15:10] <ncsquid22> Thank you ActionParsnip
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: yes. run:   echo "blacklist modulename" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null      and it will add to the file :)
[15:11] <ncsquid22> the > /dev/null  "what is that for?"
[15:12] <ncsquid22> did you mean 2> /dev/null ?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: tee outputs to the file as well as stdout, it just supresses the output to stdout
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> ncsquid22: its not necessary, just neater
[15:15] <ncsquid22> awesome!
[15:16] <p1l0t_> How do I switch between workspaces in unity?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t_: use the icon on the unity launcher
[15:17] <usr13> p1l0t_: Ctrl-F1 F2 etc
[15:17] <p1l0t_> ActionParsnip: thanks (I'm a GUI padawon)
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t_: had to look up padawon, makes sense
[15:18] <p1l0t_> :) can go back to my other nick on the screen now
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> p1l0t_  ctrl-alt arrow
[15:19] <ur0pl> hi
[15:19] <p1l0t> ah that's better
[15:19] <Unicorn001> hi all, anyone who has experience with adding a linux boot entry to the Wiindows 8  Boot Manager while using UEFI bios boot option/disk setup?
[15:20] <ur0pl> i just now installed 12.04, my admin user password is say, 111,  now when i try to do  "su -" and i enter 111 , it says i have the wrong password. I do not udnerstand. i log in the syste with 111
[15:20] <Unicorn001> (windows 8 - windows boot manager)
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Unicorn001  ask in ##windows how to do something in windows
[15:20] <_helios_> ur0pl, you have not set a unix password yet
[15:20] <BlueEagle> !sudo | ur0pl
[15:20] <_helios_> ur0pl, type sudo su then enter your 111 then type passwd and set a new password
[15:21] <usr13> p1l0t_: Ctrl-Alt Right or Left arrow
[15:21] <_helios_> ur0pl then you can su and use the new password you set for the unix account.
[15:21] <p1l0t> usr13: Yes that's nice!
[15:22] <_helios_> ur0pl, do you understand?
[15:22] <BlueEagle> ur0pl: You don't need to enable the root account, you know. sudo -s does the same as su -
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ur0pl: use:  sudo -i
[15:23] <jrib> ur0pl, BlueEagle: sudo -i will sanitize the environment like su - does
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> ur0pl: su -   would need a root password, whichj doesn't exist
[15:23] <_helios_> ur0pl, I gave you instructions to make a root password.
[15:24] <ur0pl> ok thanks
[15:24] <ur0pl> i did it
[15:24] <usr13> ur0pl: sudo -i is the recommended method.
[15:24] <p1l0t> usr13: Can do ctrl-alt-^ or v too :) (up and down not actually ^v)
[15:24] <WarringStates> 点餐系统的点餐功能是怎么实现的呀，求思路
[15:24] <usr13> p1l0t: Oh, ok
[15:24] <Pici> !zh | WarringStates
[15:24] <ur0pl> what is the program called that is like screen, but with colors?
[15:25] <IceCas> ur0pl, tmux
[15:25] <Pici> ur0pl: screen has colors. Maybe you mean tmux or byobu?
[15:25] <ur0pl> byobu
[15:25] <ur0pl> that is what i use
[15:25] <ur0pl> is that better than tmux?
[15:25] <Pici> byobu is just a set of wrapper scripts for screen or tmux. It can use either.
[15:26] <ur0pl> i like byobu
[15:26] <ur0pl> is that universal and on fbsd too?
[15:26] <ur0pl> or do they use tmux
[15:26] <BlueEagle> ur0pl: Screen has colors.
[15:26] <Pici> ur0pl: you'd need to ask them.
[15:28] <fas> Hey guys, anyone here running utorrent webgui?
[15:28] <fas> I can't get mine to start downloading
[15:28] <cpruitt> First time changing memory on a Linux box. Before I do I want to confirm that I'm right in saying there is no problem with shutting down an ubuntu (server) machine, swapping out memory (increased amount) and rebooting.  I know at one point this would really goof up a Windows machine and I don't want to hose my computer because I didn't think to ask.  Can anyone confirm that changing the amount of memory after install is NOT a problem on Ubuntu?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> fas: ask and see
[15:29] <Pici> cpruitt: its no issue
[15:29] <Chujak> Kas cm?
[15:29] <fas> I got it to load torrents and they are started but no downloading
[15:29] <usr13> cpruitt: Not a problem
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> fas: is there a utorrent irc channel
[15:29] <fas> Let me check
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> fas: do other torrent clients work ok under ubuntu?
[15:30] <fas> This is all I've tried
[15:30] <cpruitt> Pici: usr13: Many thanks
[15:30] <fas> It's ubuntu server
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> fas: you do know that ubuntu comes with transmission in a default install...
[15:30] <fas> I want to use it solely through webbui
[15:30] <_helios_> I've had really good like with qbittorent
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> fas: ah, you can try server torrent clients like rtorrent in ubuntu server, transmission can also run headless
[15:31] <fas> Well, Idk why utorrent wouldn't work
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> fas: other clients have web UIs. its not something unique to utorrent
[15:31] <fas> Still, I like utorrent a lot
[15:31] <fas> And it's up and running, just it's not actually downloading...
[15:35] <vekexasia> hello all after installing shorewall i cannot ping6 ipv6.google.com anymore
[15:35] <BlueEagle> vekexasia: Did you configure it correctly?
[15:36] <vekexasia> i think so
[15:36] <vekexasia> but even with shorewall stop & shorewall reset
[15:36] <vekexasia> i cannot ping .. I always get operation not permitted
[15:36] <riply> hi guys, is there anyone here who is rather good with 'wget'? I am trying to write a little script to download all of the pics in a 4chan board.. I have it working if I specify the thread, but I'd like it to recursively do it so that I can, in theory, get my box to download/crawl all the photos posted in the /hr threads.. This' what I have so far:wget -P 4chanHR -H -nd -r -Dimages.4chan.org -A '.jpg,.jpeg,.png,.gif,' -erobots=off http://boards.4chan.org/hr
[15:36] <riply> /res/5422184
[15:36] <BlueEagle> vekexasia: !pastebin your /etc/shorewall/rules
[15:37] <vekexasia> it's disabled now ..
[15:37] <vekexasia> i think it was not shorewall
[15:37] <vekexasia> but something else
[15:37] <vekexasia> that was installed
[15:37] <JuJuBee> I just set up a 12.10 box and installed NIS as client.  The login screen doesn't show the users from the NIS server.  If  I log into the terminal Alt-F1 using an account on the server and reboot the client then that account will show on login screen.
[15:39] <riply> mmmm I think that I've got it working - I just omitted some of the URL..
[15:40] <BlueEagle> vekexasia: Ok. When you find out what it is, get back to us. In the mean time please read http://www.shorewall.net/FAQ.htm
[15:40] <KeyboardNotFound> Do you recommend to use a proxy when surfing?
[15:40] <BlueEagle> vekexasia: There's a dedicated section in the FAQ for ip6
[15:41] <day> entertain me! i completed reddit
[15:41] <AridDecay> Hi
[15:42] <BlueEagle> !ot | day
[15:42] <AridDecay> I am unable to use my logitech mouse in Ubuntu. It is an Anywhere MX mouse (MX 910-old). The unifying reciever has been detected, as when I run lsusb it shows up
[15:42] <coinup> foo!
[15:42] <coinup> me!
[15:42] <AridDecay> Is there any information on this mouse being used in Ubuntu that I couldn't find?
[15:44] <WarringStates> hello world
[15:44] <AridDecay> Hello, WarringStates
[15:45] <WarringStates> Hello AridDecay:-D
[15:46] <Guest70134> hi
[15:46] <AridDecay> WarringStates: If I remember, last I used this channel was around two years ago, and you had to be authed for everyone else to hear you. Is this correct?
[15:47] <Guest70134> just joined in for the very first tinme
[15:47] <AridDecay> Hm
[15:47] <Guest70134> hows it ??
[15:47] <AridDecay> I am unable to use my logitech mouse in Ubuntu. It is an Anywhere MX mouse (MX 910-old). The unifying reciever has been detected, as when I run lsusb it shows up
[15:47] <AridDecay> It's going well
[15:47] <AridDecay> Trying to get my mouse to work in Ubuntu
[15:47] <computer> Hi. QjackCtl Just stoped working with this message: Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory. ???? Tried remove and install....But still the same message. ???
[15:48] <Guest70134> get ur packages updated using synaptics
[15:48] <Guest70134> introductions pls
[15:49] <AridDecay> Guest70134: Already done that =P I'm not new to linux.
[15:49] <AridDecay> That was the first thing I did.
[15:49] <Guest70134> k.. well im new to this chat so thgt u for a newbie
[15:50] <AridDecay> No, no, it's fine though
[15:50] <JuJuBee> My ltsp server is an NIS client on my LAN.  I used nfs to mount /home on the ltsp server.  my users can log into a ltsp client computer but their /home is not mounting properly .  They get a message that "Transport endpoint is not connected"
[15:50] <AridDecay> Specially with a simple problem like mine, i'd assume I was too.
[15:50] <Guest70134> :)
[15:52] <computer> Hi. Half my biscuit broke off and is somewhere at the bottom of the cup? Any ideas what to do? Is this the right channel??
[15:53] <AridDecay> Also. Is there an easy way to shy away from this DE and install something godly like fluxbox? New to the newer versions of Ubuntu. I'm from the gnome kind of time.. It's all so different
[15:53] <ncsquid22> computer ==> 'reboot'
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> computer  #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:53] <dr_willis> !info fluxbox
[15:54] <computer> I tried rebooting?
[15:54] <ncsquid22> don't do that...
[15:54] <ncsquid22> computer....what is your issue?
[15:54] <computer> QjackCtl Just stoped working with this message: Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory. ???? Tried remove and install....But still the same message. ???
[15:56] <ncsquid22> humm..
[15:56] <ncsquid22> it seems as if its trying to connect to a server....your routing is setup correctly?
[15:56] <ncsquid22> default gateways and dns servers?
[15:57] <ncsquid22> try this....ping yahoo.com and see if its resolves the IP and you can ping it
[15:57] <computer> QjackCtl is an audio interface?
[15:58] <ncsquid22> yea but if you look at the error....the interface seems to connect to a server ....perhaps to download artist info etc...who knows...anyway check your network connection
[15:58] <llutz> ncsquid22: connect a "server socket"
[15:59] <llutz> computer: jack-server is up and running?
[15:59] <ncsquid22> llutz that's right! define a socket: A socket is nothing more than source ip, source port destination ip, destination port.
[16:00] <JannePeltonen> hi guys, i'm having a problem with a driver.. i know what the problem is in the source level, and a fix, but i cant seem to be able to compile it. can anyone help, maybe point me to a quide?
[16:01] <computer> Me don't fink u know wot ur talkin bout.  I tried Ubuntu Studio but no one there :(
[16:01] <JannePeltonen> the problem is this, in case anyone is curious; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1082215
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> computer  speak normally please, non-native speakers may nit understand
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> not
[16:02] <ncsquid22> ok computer....you seem to know a lot about your problem.
[16:03] <mbeierl_> computer: did you change any of the jackd settings?  I've had that issue when jackd was unable to start up due to unrealistic values
[16:03] <mbeierl_> computer, you might have better luck asking in #opensourcemusicians as there are more people there that are familiar with the ins and outs of audio
[16:03] <ncsquid22> computer perhaps you should try this....."watch -n 1 netstat -tupn" when you try to start your audio application....and see what happens.....you can also try "sudo ss -nap"
[16:04] <Guest20365> hello
[16:04] <Guest20365> hello everynoe
[16:05] <ncsquid22> hello
[16:08] <kieron-desktop> hallo guys
[16:08] <kieron-desktop> i need your opinion
[16:08] <kieron-desktop> i have a computer with the following specs
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> kieron-desktop  no opinions here, please
[16:10] <kieron-desktop> 80gb hdd ,512mb ddr memory ,pentium 4 2.53ghz and a dmx 6fire 24/96 soundcard with front panel
[16:10] <kieron-desktop> i need to know what kernel is best for it
[16:10] <Pici> kieron-desktop: Any.
[16:10] <kieron-desktop> its for my friends music studio
[16:11] <AridDecay> I am still having my issue with my logitech MX-910 mouse. I have done a synaptic update twice and restarted. I cannot find information on a driver for my mouse, do any of you have any information on using it in Linux?
[16:11] <JannePeltonen> kieron-desktop: I'd go with xubuntu since it's not the fastest computer
[16:11] <DJFUCHACK3R> http://www.whitehouse.gov/videos/2013/January/011613_PlantoReduceGunViolence_HD.mp4
[16:11] <jarlath> I have had a problem where choosing 'Shut Down' or 'Restart' only brought me to the Greeter, and I couldn't do it from there either. Now I've discovered that if I disable networking this problem goes away. Does that stand out for anyone? I'm happy to re-install, but if it's because of an update I'll only end up with the same issue again.
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> kieron-desktop  3.5.0-19 is the current kernel in ubuntu
[16:11] <kieron-desktop> i have told him to upgrade the memory
[16:12] <kieron-desktop> is it good for music production
[16:12] <LeMike> Hello. I like to log the servers load with "top -b -i -n 20" but i only want to have those processes that have a cpu load of higher than 50%. is that possible?
[16:12] <DJFUCHACK3R> I CAN TAKE THE BUS IF I HAVE TO.
[16:12] <kieron-desktop> cos ive gone on this page here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[16:13] <kieron-desktop> and i would prefer to use one from their
[16:13] <AridDecay> I am still having my issue with my logitech MX-910 mouse. I have done a synaptic update twice and restarted. I cannot find information on a driver for my mouse, do any of you have any information on using it in Linux?
[16:14] <meet> my login keyring is not getting unlocked on startup. i tried removing the keyring password and set it to blank but still the problem persists. any solution?
[16:14] <kieron-desktop> so which one should i pick
[16:14] <kieron-desktop> the soft kernel or the hard kernel
[16:15] <xangua> meet: do you have automatic login enabled¿
[16:15] <xangua> kieron-desktop: soft or hard kernel¿¿¿ what are you talking about¿
[16:15] <meet> xangua: no. but i have set login without password.
[16:15] <kieron-desktop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> LeMike: you will need grep and sort
[16:17] <AridDecay> Does no one have any information on running a wireless mouse in Ubuntu?
[16:17] <AridDecay> =/
[16:17] <kieron-desktop> hallo
[16:18] <Sven_vB> does anyone have an idea how to make SSH give up if RSA key auth failed, instead of asking me for a password, blocking execution of my script?
[16:18] <xangua> meet: that's always such a bad idea :) please use a password
[16:18] <meet> AridDecay: mine worked automatically.
[16:18] <kieron-desktop> so
[16:18] <kieron-desktop> what kernel do i use
[16:19] <kieron-desktop> bear in mind my system is 32bit
[16:19] <ljxkey> hello,everyone ,who has some time to have a talk
[16:19] <meet> xangua.. but why cannot it unlock? because I don't really need a password. and its annoying to put password everytime.
[16:19] <xangua> kieron-desktop: you were already told that wich such low spec you should try Xubuntu, or even Lubuntu
[16:19] <kieron-desktop> memory i will be upgrading
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> ljxkey: this is pur support, talk is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:19] <AridDecay> meet: Odd. My Logitech mouse (with the unifying adapter, the small one) doesn't want to work. But it is seen by lsusb
[16:19] <AridDecay> Is there a logitech diver i'm missing perchance?
[16:20] <Sven_vB> also, in cases where RSA key auth succeeded, i'd like to be able to pass data on stdin, which precludes my otherwise working use of DISPLAY= </dev/null setsid ssh
[16:20] <meet> AridDecay: i have a logitech m225 mouse. no problems. did you perform the first update ?
[16:20] <kieron-desktop> so ... what they dont do a 32bit realtime kernel
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> kieron-desktop  best use the normal kernel that ubuntu uses by default
[16:20] <AridDecay> meet: I did perform the first update. Updated quite a bit
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> LeMike: you can use:  top -c 1    and pipe to:  sort -k 4    assuming colomn 3 is the cpu use colomn
[16:21] <TexNixk> AridDecay : what does this say ... xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer
[16:21] <DJFUCHACK3R> DJFUCHACK3R? :No such nick/channel
[16:21] <DJFUCHACK3R> * [DJFUCHACK3R?] End of WHOIS list.
[16:21] <kieron-desktop> how come
[16:22] <kieron-desktop> im upgrading the memory so itl be 2gb for a starters
[16:22] <TexNixk> !ot | DJFUCHACK3R
[16:22] <user_> hi,i tried to do "sudo apt-get update" i got this error and more... "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xorg_7.5+6ubuntu3.1_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]" Can somebody help me to solve this problem? I already tried different things on forums but noting helped so far. Here is a link to my "sources.list" http://pastebin.com/deL5TjmL danke im vorraus thanks in advance !
[16:22] <AridDecay> TexNixk: Virtual Core pointer, Virtual core XTEST pointer.
[16:22] <kieron-desktop> and a 400gb firewire drive
[16:22] <AridDecay> XPointer and XExtensionPointer
[16:22] <kieron-desktop> plus
[16:22] <kieron-desktop> ubuntu builder does take a while to build
[16:23] <DJFUCHACK3R> UBUNTU 12.9!?
[16:23] <DJFUCHACK3R> UBUNTU PHONE?!
[16:23] <hilo> Which permission takes precedence? I have a file owned by USER and GROUP. USER is a member of GROUP. With permissions 004 and 040, USER cannot read the file even though the file is set to be readable by everyone or a group to which USER is a member (respectively).
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !caps | DJFUCHACK3R
[16:24] <DJFUCHACK3R> Thank You.
[16:24] <TexNixk> AridDecay : how about ... xinput list
[16:24] <Sven_vB> nevermind, found -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=0 was still on todo :)
[16:24] <DJFUCHACK3R> How's The Weather. It Is Cloudy With A Snow Drift Where I Am.
[16:24] <Pici> !ot | DJFUCHACK3R
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> DJFUCHACK3R  wrong channel
[16:25] <DJFUCHACK3R> Thank You.
[16:25] <hilo> Does the owner of a file get denied access if the user section of the permissions is not set regardless of the group and everyone permissions?
[16:26] <xangua> user_: please use a supported ubuntu version, you can get latest in ubuntu.com :)
[16:26] <AridDecay> TexNixk: http://pastebin.com/54i9v5RP
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> kieron-desktop: the i386 kernel.
[16:26] <usr13> hilo: Can you rephrase that?
[16:26] <kieron-desktop> ok
[16:26] <kieron-desktop> is that on that page i posted
[16:26] <llutz> hilo: Group permissions apply if the user is not the owner but is in the group, user permission apply if the is owner
[16:27] <llutz> s/the/he/
[16:27] <AridDecay> TexNixk: New update! It only wants to work in the right hand side USB ports. It still detects in the left, but wont actually work.
[16:27] <hilo> llutz, so if a user is the owner, all other permissions are ignored?
[16:27] <llutz> hilo: yes
[16:27] <user_> xangua: actually, it's linux mint, but on #linuxmint-help and "-chat" no one can help me. :(
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[16:28] <hilo> llutz, if a user is in the group, are everyone permissions ignored then as well?
[16:28] <bcgrown> Running Xubuntu 12.04.1 amd64 with all the latest updates,  my Nvidia driver won't ever save its settings.   why not?
[16:28] <llutz> hilo: user, then group then other
[16:28] <hilo> llutz, first match is all it uses
[16:29] <llutz> hilo: "other permission" only apply if the user is neither owner nor in the group
[16:29] <usr13> hilo: http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/tutorials/linux-file-permissions.html
[16:29] <TexNixk> AridDecay : xinput list should show an entry as such ... 8: "Logitech USB Receiver"	[XExtensionPointer]
[16:30] <TexNixk> AridDecay : have you just installed this mouse ?
[16:30] <LeMike> thanks ActionParsnip . i piped a bit and used egrep. but the server is that fast, no process is going over 10 percent right now. so i log for some time and then sum up the results by command.
[16:31] <hilo> llutz, usr13, thanks!
[16:31] <usr13> hilo: http://www.ahinc.com/linux101/permission.htm
[16:32] <AridDecay> TexNixk: Well, yes. I installed UBuntu with the mouse on, but it never worked
[16:32] <vifanq> Do you know any network monitor, that would log events from local network, e.g. connections on nonstandard ports?
[16:33] <AridDecay> TexNixk: I got it to work, temporarily
[16:33] <DJFUCHACK3R> Good Morning.
[16:33] <TexNixk> AridDecay : have a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/218370/how-to-make-logitech-anywhere-mx-work-in-ubuntu-12-x ... mabe that will help
[16:34] <TexNixk> AridDecay : which distro are you using
[16:34] <kieron-desktop> i take it these realtime kernels work on all versions of ubuntu
[16:34] <JuJuBee> How do I change ubuntu 12.10 so I get a simple username/password login rather than a list of users?
[16:34] <usr13> vifanq: You can just use tcpdump |grep something-or-other
[16:34] <meganerd> is there a way to run android apps *natively* (not in an emulator), something similar or equivalent to bluestacks.com for Ubuntu?  Through googling it seems that Ubuntu demonstrated this back in 2009 but I have not been able to find running code.
[16:36] <TexNixk> DJFUCHACK3R : stop that
[16:36] <AridDecay> TexNixk: Ubuntu 12.10
[16:36] <usr13> DJFUCHACK3R: /join #smalltalk
[16:36] <tata> now I install Ubuntu 10.4 lts,  and have problem: why my Gnome Mplayer not work on sound and fullscreen?
[16:37] <usr13> tata: alsamixer ?
[16:37] <AridDecay> Okay. One last stupid question
[16:37] <AridDecay> I'm from the times of like, Gnome in Ubuntu. What use would Ubuntu one be for me? I've read about it, but don't really understand it's use
[16:38] <usr13> tata: sudo apt-get install mplayer ?
[16:38] <xangua> AridDecay: Ubuntu still uses gnome
[16:38] <AridDecay> Isn't it some unity DE now?
[16:38] <AridDecay> I figured it was something Ubuntu developed itself.
[16:38] <AridDecay> Certaintly looks the part
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> AridDecay  unity is a layer on top of gnome
[16:38] <AridDecay> Interesting
[16:39] <AridDecay> Is it possible to just remove Unity alltogether?
[16:39] <dcherniv> AridDecay, just install debian
[16:39] <tata> alsamixer is corect, why sudo apt...
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> AridDecay  install a different DE, logout, select DE, login
[16:39] <AridDecay> dcherniv: Oh good lord
[16:39] <usr13> AridDecay: There are other Desktop Environments.  xubuntu lubuntu
[16:39] <AridDecay> You've got to be kidding =P
[16:39] <AridDecay> I know about other DE's
[16:39] <tata> problem is with MP4
[16:39] <AridDecay> But I would like straight gnome
[16:39] <dcherniv> AridDecay, whats the problem with debian
[16:39] <AridDecay> Is that not possible anymore? If so, Fluxbox is my go to then.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> AridDecay  then there's gnome-shell
[16:40] <AridDecay> Perfect.
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> dcherniv  wrong channel
[16:40] <AridDecay> dcherniv: I don't enjoy Debian, that is all
[16:40] <dcherniv> oh well
[16:40] <usr13> AridDecay: There is mate but..... I dono, seems that folks have problems trying to get it installed.
[16:40] <meganerd> AridDecay: I regularly use KDE and XFCE.  Simple apt-get away :)
[16:41] <usr13> AridDecay: So, you don't like Unity and you don't want to switch to another DE?
[16:42] <AridDecay> usr13: Nope. I'm a minimalist kind of person. Hence why I just apt-got fluxbox
[16:42] <AridDecay> Will be logging out in a minute. (:
[16:42] <usr13> AridDecay: Well, there you go.
[16:42] <vifanq> usr13: will it catch all computers in my network? I am wondering if someone can catch my wifi password and connect
[16:42] <vifanq> usr13: so I would then catch if he would take some actions after connecting
[16:43] <user_> hi, i tried to do "sudo apt-get update" errors: "http://pastebin.com/cwiZs2fQ" How can i fix it? Here is a link to my"sources.list" http://pastebin.com/deL5TjmL Thanks in advance!
[16:43] <usr13> vifanq: Just your own.
[16:43] <xangua> user_: please use a supported ubuntu version
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> user_  maverick is dead
[16:43] <usr13> vifanq: ... and the ones you connect to.
[16:44] <user_> MonkeyDust: Can you tell me want i have to add in my "sources.list" ? idk
[16:44] <usr13> vifanq: man tcpdump
[16:44] <Duzzy> Hi, I've been googeling around on how to secure my server and one of them was to add correct records to the ip table, first I accept my internal ip but when I then add "the rest" I loose my connection and I have to go to the server and remove it again
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> user_  upgrade ubuntu to 12.04 or 12.10
[16:44] <meganerd> user_: also getdeb is down (and maverick is not supported)
[16:45] <CoreyBR> how do i change my cursor theme in ubuntu 12.10?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> user_  fastest and easiest would be a fresh install, after backup
[16:45] <Duzzy> "iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.1.0/24 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" is the command to accept my internal ip and "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP" is to drop the rest, but obviously that first line doesnt do the trick
[16:45] <misterswag> does anyone use hexchat
[16:45] <dare_> hi
[16:45] <misterswag> and is it better than xchat
[16:46] <user_> MonkeyDust: but "sudo apt-get upgrade" is also not working...
[16:46] <vifanq> usr13: is there some way to monitor my network? I have access to my wifi router
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> user_  that's because maverick is dead
[16:46] <usr13> vifanq: wireshark
[16:46] <CoreyBR> misterswag, i use pidgin irc plugin
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | user_
[16:47] <whoever> MonkeyDust: what are you trolliing for
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> whoever  that's called: ginving advice on how to do things
[16:47] <yann__> T
[16:47] <user_> ubottu: i'm on linux-mint. Can i also use this?
[16:48] <user_> MonkeyDust: : i'm on linux-mint. Can i also use this?
[16:48] <meet> user_: yes you can
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> user_  mint is a different distro, it's not supported here
[16:48] <whoever> MonkeyDust: thaught you whee tolling for an irc client.. so are you asking how one differers from another, or looking for a "good" client
[16:49] <user_> okay thanks so far MonkeyDust
[16:49]  * whoever says mind is a cheaper version of windows :-)
[16:49] <truerocker_redhe> hey all, i keep running across error codes related to samba4, any suggestions?
[16:50] <truerocker_redhe> furthermore, what the hell is samba4? haha
[16:50] <TexNixk> user_ : the official mint channel is on the  irc.spotchat.org server
[16:51] <auronandace> !samba | truerocker_redhe
[16:51] <usr13> user_: You need #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[16:52] <user_> usr13: I already was there no one could helped me there.
[16:53] <usr13> user_: Sometimes you have to wait until someone comes along with the info you need.
[16:53] <truerocker_redhe> why would i encounter issues with samba4 when i install things that have nothing to do with windows environments such as flash player or even xchat
[16:54] <usr13> truerocker_redhe: Good question.
[16:54] <whoever> truerocker_redhe: like what issue
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> truerocker_redhe  depends on what you are doing, i guess
[16:54] <user_> usr13: okay thanks i will keep trying and waiting.
[16:55] <custom_> hello
[16:55] <custom_> hello
[16:55] <whoever> hey custom_
[16:55] <usr13> user_: "Patience is a virtue"
[16:55] <custom_> ubiquity does not work in 12.04?
[16:55] <computer_> Hi people :). I need a solution....No not heroin this time. It's QjackCtl....D-BUS: JACK server could not be started. Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory.
[16:57] <usr13> computer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969862 ?
[16:57] <truerocker_redhe> well i just tried installing lightspark instead of flash since the new releases of flash don't have 64 bit integration and ran across error message 126 along with a stream of other errors reffering to unknown parameters
[16:57] <custom_> whover, I created a iso using remastersys and as I try to install from it the installation does not take place
[16:57] <computer_> Thanks :). I'll have a look.
[16:58] <truerocker_redhe> what is error message 126?
[16:59] <usr13> custom_: md5sum it and google the output
[16:59] <hilo> I am having what seems like a permissions issue with my samba shares. The permissions are set correctly on the directories and files which I confirmed by accessing and writing them when logged onto the server locally (and issuing all commands as the user samba uses). When I mount the share from Windows XP, everything works as expected (I can read/write). If I mount the share using Ubuntu 10.04, I can read and write anything that is already existing, but certai
[16:59] <hilo> n directories I can not create new items in. The affected directories have r-xrwx--- permissions (but the samba user is in the group and is not the owner).
[16:59] <custom_> how to do md5sum?
[16:59] <whoever> custom_: why use ubiquity when most distros have  that option when you mount the image and run it
[16:59] <auronandace> !md5sum | custom_
[17:00] <usr13> custom_: md5sum iso-image.iso
[17:01] <bazhang> !hashes | custom_
[17:02] <usr13> bazhang: (google is faster)
[17:02] <truerocker_redhe> f# all the dumb stuff, where do i download or whats the easiest way to wipe and load my computer and start fresh? think i've half installed enough things on here to make anyone's head spin'
[17:02] <ronnie_> how to make a full customize  dvd from my current ubuntu os ? anyone can help me?
[17:02] <bazhang> !remaster | ronnie_
[17:03] <bazhang> ronnie_, unless you mean clone. you can make a disk image from the Disks app
[17:04] <truerocker_redhe> i take it that wasn't a question worth answering?
[17:04] <usr13> bazhang: He must be looking for something like kickstart (from Fedora).
[17:04] <bazhang> truerocker_redhe, overwrite the partition with a fresh install
[17:05] <ronnie_> i want a clone disk which i install a second device any time. my current os ubuntu 12.10 64 bit.i need a full dvd that i am using now.
[17:05] <truerocker_redhe> how would i go about that?
[17:05] <bazhang> truerocker_redhe, the installer will do it for you
[17:05] <usr13> bazhang: ronnie_ https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[17:05] <bazhang> ronnie_, so look into the Disks app I just told you about
[17:06] <truerocker_redhe> bear with me here, i'm quite capable computer wise but new to ubuntu. where's the installer?
[17:06] <bazhang> usr13, I dont have the issue, no need to link me
[17:06] <bazhang> truerocker_redhe, on the live dvd/usb
[17:06] <custom_> hello
[17:06] <usr13> bazhang: FYI
[17:06] <custom_> here is the output of md5sum   "24d6a70ad7fcd74cf1873d2797a3b2c1  custom-dist.iso"
[17:07] <usr13> custom_: google it
[17:07] <truerocker_redhe> i don't have the cd anymore, recently moved, where can i get a copy or a flashdrive loadable version?
[17:07] <usr13> custom_: no match.  What is "custom-dist.iso" ?
[17:07] <custom_> you mean search only the key
[17:08] <custom_> custom-dist.iso is the I created using remastersys
[17:08] <usr13> custom_: Yes.  but What is "custom-dist.iso" ?
[17:08] <usr13> custom_: Oh, well a checksum will do you no good.
[17:08] <usr13> custom_: It is unique
[17:09] <custom_> Now earlier whenever I created this iso an icon was shown on the desktop to install the OS
[17:09] <truerocker_redhe> anyone? know a link to download a fresh exacutable version of ubuntu to flash drive?
[17:09] <custom_> Now in this iso I do not get that icon
[17:10] <usr13> custom_: And your question is _________________?
[17:10] <auronandace> truerocker_redhe: dd the iso to a usb
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> truerocker_redhe: use unetbootin
[17:11] <truerocker_redhe> whats unetbootin?
[17:11] <custom_> So I checked my earlier versions it was trying to execute "ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui"
[17:11] <KylieBrooks> hello
[17:11] <KylieBrooks> have an isue
[17:11] <KylieBrooks> im trying to install kvirc
[17:11] <custom_> usr13: my question how to get that installer icon back
[17:11] <KylieBrooks> but
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> custom_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:11] <xibalba> anyone know of a linux storage appliance (like freenas) that is highly available, redundant, and dedup's?
[17:11] <KylieBrooks> software center seems to be slow
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> KylieBrooks: it is
[17:12] <KylieBrooks> and appears freezing at times
[17:12] <usr13> ActionParsnip: It is custom-dist.iso
[17:12] <KylieBrooks> ActionParsnip: wat
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> usr13: oh
[17:12] <usr13> ActionParsnip: remastered...
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> KylieBrooks: software centre is slow
[17:12] <custom_> ActionParsnip: I am having a working version of 12.04 on my machine and I want to create a customised version of it
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> usr13: gotcha
[17:12] <truerocker_redhe> how do i use "unetbootin"?
[17:12] <custom_> So i use remastersys for it
[17:12] <KylieBrooks> how do i make it faster ActionParsnip
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> custom_: then add the shortcut to the ubuntu user's desktop
[17:13] <usr13> custom_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> KylieBrooks: i don't use is, you could try the lubuntu software centre
[17:13] <KylieBrooks> ActionParsnip: i dont use that
[17:14] <vitimiti> hallo
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> KylieBrooks: yes, but you can, is the point
[17:17] <KylieBrooks> test
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> !test | KylieBrooks
[17:17] <KylieBrooks> k brb
[17:17] <KylieBrooks|2> there
[17:18] <ZenMasta_> why would someone use ln -sf command vs a2enmod ?
[17:18] <KylieBrooks> ZenMasta_: different commands
[17:18] <llutz> ZenMasta_: because lots of guys just don't know about the a2en.... commands
[17:18] <ZenMasta_> KylieBrooks if the goal is to enable a mod wouldn't you just use a2en?
[17:19] <KylieBrooks> ZenMasta_: if u dont mind removing the colour from urr message
[17:19] <custom_> usr13: any idea why this installer shortcut is not shown on desktop?
[17:20] <ZenMasta_> llutz I see. just wondering as I figured out a problem I had was due to a mod not being enabled and I'd never seen the ln -sf method before wasn't sure if it was special :)
[17:20] <jhutchins> ZenMasta_: Using ln does the same thing as the scripts do.
[17:20] <ZenMasta_> jhutchins cool thanks for confirming
[17:20] <computer> Ubuntu Studio User. Hi. Log in as root? Tried ctrl+alt+f3. (Log in from command line root+my password) but didn't work?
[17:21] <rye> computer: you can't login directly as root, you need to log in as a regular user with sudo rights and "sudo -s" to become root
[17:22] <computer> Ok. Thanks.
[17:22] <meet> does apt-fast really work?
[17:28] <lastleo85> my ubuntu hangs
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> meet: its all I use
[17:28] <KylieBrooks> um
[17:28] <alexandr> hellp
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> lastleo85: have you tested your RAM
[17:30] <machicola> is there any ubuntu software that allows adding/editing of text boxes for .PDF , like the premium acrobat versions
[17:31] <machicola> hmm.... or maybe I should just use GIMP
[17:31] <happyface> why is the default niceness for new processes 20 on my ubuntu server? isn't it usually 0
[17:31] <machicola> yeah, might not be a bad idea
[17:31] <Blinkiz> Hi. I have a powerful computer with Intel HD4000 Graphics. Google maps (maps.google.com) is slow with firefox but fast with google chrome. I really would like to use firefox, why is it slow? When dragging the map around it is .. lagging.. in firefox. What does chrome have that firefox does not?
[17:35] <zoktar> What is in charge of the bottom right notifications?, it has glitched out and always shows up blank white. ubuntu 12.10 unity-compiz. Top right notifications are not affected. Also something that might be related is certain windows get unframed and or transparent copying whatever the background is when moved around. http://imgur.com/ROMHE , http://imgur.com/74ZrO
[17:35] <koolaidmini> Hello! :)
[17:36] <koolaidmini> I need help with my usb stick.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: what does the stick do?
[17:36] <koolaidmini> Whenever I boot, it will say syslinux 4.06 2012-10-23 when I try to boot.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:37] <koolaidmini> Elaborate?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | koolaidmini
[17:37] <koolaidmini> What if its corrupted?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: then you will need top redownload it
[17:38] <koolaidmini> Why would it become corrupted?
[17:38] <rioko_> i've gotten my hands on a scrolling marquee, can anyone direct to somewhere where i can program it in python or to somewhere that deals with hardware?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: because the internet is not a very reliable network (in the grand scheme of things)
[17:39] <koolaidmini> Hahah, fair enough.
[17:39] <hilo> When a samba share is mounted in nautilus, where in the filesystem is it actually mounted to
[17:39] <koolaidmini> So is that the root of my issue most likely?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> hilo: /run/$user/gvfs
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> hilo: the 'mount' command will show you
[17:39] <hilo> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: using torrents helps as the torrent protocol adds extra checks
[17:40] <koolaidmini> where do I torrent it from?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> 64bit desktop: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/quantal/desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[17:42] <koolaidmini> The Sums are correct :)
[17:42] <koolaidmini> So what now..
[17:43] <billybob000> i need help with dns... i configured /etc/resolv.conf with the dns server on my network, i can ping it and everything, but it wont resolve names
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: how did you put the ISO on the USB
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: in fuure, please MD5 test before using ISO files
[17:44] <billybob000> on another PC using the same DNS server, it works fine
[17:44] <llutz> billybob000: "grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf"
[17:44] <drahti> hi
[17:45] <koolaidmini> I tried installing it with UUI so it was bootable, didnt work, so i tried jus tthe iso. didnt work,
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: can the system ping the DNS server?
[17:45] <billybob000> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:46] <billybob000> i have a windows PC that uses the same DNS server and it works fine
[17:46] <billybob000> but using it on ubuntu server, it doesnt work
[17:46] <Discordian93> Hello
[17:46] <mr4eyes> whois mr4eyes
[17:47] <Discordian93> I need some help for a friend new to linux, his internet doesn't work
[17:47] <Discordian93> he's using ubuntu 12.04 and a webstar atlanta scientefic dpc 2100 series router
[17:48] <koolaidmini> Sorry, my laptop died, So I tried installing it so it is bootable with UUI,
[17:48] <koolaidmini> didnt work.
[17:48] <koolaidmini> Tried just dropping the iso, didnt work either.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: can you ping the DNS under Ubuntu ok?
[17:48] <jhutchins> Discordian93: Router should be irrelevant.
[17:48] <Discordian93> I know
[17:48] <billybob000> ActionParsnip: yes, i can ping the dns server just fine
[17:48] <Discordian93> but it doesn't work, for some reasonj
[17:48] <llutz> billybob000: "grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf"
[17:48] <jhutchins> !doesn't work
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: try unetbootin, dragging the ISO won't work
[17:48] <Discordian93> the netwrok apparently works
[17:49] <billybob000> yes, i have a name server configured in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:49] <koolaidmini> I tried unetbootin as well.
[17:49] <llutz> billybob000: the output is?
[17:49] <Discordian93> his connection appears on the network widget and appears o work succesfully
[17:49] <Discordian93> but he can't acess the internet
[17:49] <Vi> hey guys, i have been granted access to a friends server. it is hosted on ubuntu, and he is teaching me. figure out how the honeypot on port 22 works is my task. Now i wonder how it is possible that his sshd_config file still contains port 22 when you have to ssh to a different port to get in, and 22 is the honeypot?
[17:49] <Discordian93> access*
[17:49] <billybob000> nameserver 10.221.208.1
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: can you ping other systems on the LAN ok?
[17:49] <llutz> billybob000: nmap -p53 10.221.208.1
[17:49] <jhutchins> Discordian93: Is the router providing dhcp or is it a static connection?
[17:50] <Discordian93> I don't know
[17:50] <jhutchins> Discordian93: necessary information.
[17:50] <billybob000>  llutz: i am using this same exact dns server on antoher pc (windows). it works fine
[17:50] <koolaidmini> :ActualParsnip ; I tried unetbootin. Did not work either. stuck at the same screen.
[17:50] <Discordian93> How do you check taht?
[17:50] <billybob000> it must be something specific to ubuntu server
[17:50] <jhutchins> Discordian93: Did he set the address manually, or did it get it automatically from the router?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: or the 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux
[17:51] <Discordian93> automatically
[17:51] <koolaidmini> Tried that too..
[17:51] <jhutchins> Discordian93: If he can ping the router but can't ping 8.8.8.8 he doesn't have the router set as his gateway.
[17:51] <Discordian93> and how would he set the router as his gateway?
[17:51] <koolaidmini> Did not work.
[17:52] <zero_coder> hello
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Discordian93: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.254 eth0
[17:52] <methods> how does apt-get map packages to a given gpg key ?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: did you try it?
[17:52] <Discordian93> I'll tell him to try that
[17:52] <zero_coder> i have got ubuntu iso and a pendrive
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Discordian93: obviously change IP and interface as needed
[17:53] <koolaidmini> It was the first one I tried. No success.
[17:53] <zero_coder> how can i make that pendrive boothable
[17:53] <zero_coder> ?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> zero_coder: unetbootin does that for you
[17:53] <zero_coder> unetbootin ??
[17:53] <zero_coder> using windows right now?
[17:53] <hilo> Is there a way to use mount --bind so that I can change the apparent permissions without actually changing them? It seems when samba shares are mounted in Ubuntu, weird things happen with the permissions, uid and gid.
[17:53] <jhutchins> zero_coder: What are you using as a bootable image?
[17:54] <zero_coder> well , i downloaded the image file
[17:54] <zero_coder> from the ubuntu site
[17:54] <zero_coder> and , i even made the pen drive bootable
[17:55] <zero_coder> but, the thing is that i cant boot from it?
[17:55] <koolaidmini> ActionParsnip: I did previously. Didnt work
[17:55] <Traumatizer> In ubuntu I can´t program anymore. The quotation marks I type aren
[17:56] <Traumatizer> In ubuntu I can´t program anymore, the quatation marks are different and I get errors for it. See they are like this: ¨, they are different than the normal ones. What keyboard layout should I use I have tried a lot but always the same problem.
[17:57] <jhutchins> zero_coder: How did you make it bootable?
[17:57] <zero_coder> use the windows diskpart utility
[17:57] <zero_coder> thts khow i make
[17:57] <zero_coder> it bootable for windows
[17:58] <quick-> HI
[17:58] <quick-> Hi , can anybody please help me . i am gettting this error . ad_oss.c(103): Failed to open audio device(/dev/dsp): No such file or directory
[17:58] <bluebeat09> anyone here experiencing unstable wifi connection ubuntu 12.10?
[17:58] <Pici> quick-: When are you getting that?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: tried a different usb port?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> quick-: when do you get the error?
[18:00] <koolaidmini> Ive tried both.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: and a different usb port?#
[18:01] <quick-> Pici: ActionParsnip i am tryin to run a program that uses the micropone as an input device.
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> quick-: do other apps work ok with the mic (like the sound recorder)
[18:01] <Discordian93> sorry, lost my connection
[18:01] <koolaidmini> I have 2 on my laptop, and Ive tried both.
[18:01] <Discordian93> anyway, how do I know which Ip and interface I have to use?
[18:02] <koolaidmini> Note, I have the 64bit version
[18:02] <MobiRushi> Checking connection thru mobile
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: tried 32bit ?
[18:03] <koolaidmini> I dont want to redownload..
[18:03] <koolaidmini> okay, so wait,
[18:03] <koolaidmini> How do I know if its the 12.10 live64?
[18:03] <Klaypex> ppl hawe loots of problems with 64. rly try 32.
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: the filename tells you
[18:03] <Traumatizer> Is there any way I can configure ubuntu to use dumb quotes(" " ) in stead of smart ones(¨ ¨)
[18:03] <Klaypex> kool did u download 64 filename or 32
[18:03] <koolaidmini> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Klaypex: yeah in the early releases, its no harder now, specially  with multiarch
[18:04] <Klaypex> thne is 64 bit
[18:04] <quick-> ActionParsnip:  ya others work.i am trying to use the pocketSphinx thats uses Open sound system(OSS)
[18:04] <koolaidmini> It doesnt say wether its the live version though.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Klaypex: thats 64bit. May as well try the 32bit
[18:04] <bluebeat09> anyone here experiencing unstable wifi connection ubuntu 12.10?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> koolaidmini: its the desktop ISO, so will boot to the live desktop
[18:05] <Klaypex> hmm. well didnt try 64 for a loong time. 32 bits rly works like thunder =)
[18:05] <Discordian93> hello?
[18:05] <zero_coder> i cant boot ubuntu from the usb stick
[18:05] <Klaypex> did u install it corectly =)
[18:05] <koolaidmini> okay. I realized I might not have been mounting it correctly, but I believe I was.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Discordian93: the ip is the IP address of the router (internal ip) and the interface is the name of the interface used to connect to the web
[18:06] <MobiRushi> Zerocoder, how u made the usb bootable?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Discordian93: if its wired it will probably be eth0 and wifi may be wlan0 but these aren't hard and fast
[18:06] <zero_coder> MobiRushi : using windows diskpart
[18:06] <Discordian93> ok
[18:06] <Klaypex> try usb universal installer
[18:06] <bluebeat09> hello?
[18:06] <blackboxer> hello
[18:07] <zero_coder> but when i use to boot , the system says, no operating system found in the drive
[18:07] <MobiRushi> Zero, it works for me using universal usb installer
[18:07] <Klaypex> u change in BIOS to load usb first ?
[18:07] <zero_coder> yep
[18:07] <zero_coder> thts when it says.
[18:07] <Klaypex> try usb universall installer
[18:07] <bluebeat09> need some help please, im experiencing very unstable wifi connection.... any suggestions?
[18:07] <zero_coder> no os found in the device
[18:07] <Klaypex> works like eating nutella
[18:08] <koolaidmini> What does the mobi.exe do?
[18:08] <MobiRushi> Also, you can try unetbootin, but univ usb installr works in all cases
[18:08] <koolaidmini> or sorry, wube.exe
[18:08] <koolaidmini> or sorry, wube.exe
[18:08] <Daro> Hi all i have problem with libpam anybody know gui for this program, or any alternative?
[18:08] <koolaidmini> woops, double.
[18:08] <MobiRushi> Bluebeat, which manufacturer is ur lappy?
[18:08] <FloodBot1> koolaidmini: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <koolaidmini> wubi*
[18:08] <rye> koolaidmini: what system are you using to create the bootable stick?
[18:08] <koolaidmini> Accident..
[18:09] <bluebeat09> mobirushi, asus
[18:09] <koolaidmini> im using unetbootin
[18:09] <rye> koolaidmini: under what operating system?
[18:09] <Klaypex> ok. try usb universal installers
[18:09] <MobiRushi> Bluebeat, maybe you need a driver for ur lappy..not sure
[18:09] <koolaidmini> windows 7, home edition, 64b
[18:10] <truerocker_redhe> ok so i ran unetbootin and selected the 11.10 netinstall it downloaded unpacked asked me to reboot and then absolutely nothing happened. what the hell?
[18:10] <Klaypex> 11.10 or 12.10
[18:10] <truerocker_redhe> 12.10 sorry
[18:10] <Daro> yes for creating usb stick its really hard on linux i try and know if any gui program not works good
[18:10] <Klaypex> donwlaod 12.10 manuali. 32 bit. install it with usb universal installer
[18:10] <bluebeat09> but if it was a driver problem, would it connect at all?
[18:11] <Daro> on windows work fine usb uniwersall installer and LiLi
[18:11] <Traumatizer> Is there any way I can configure ubuntu to use dumb quotes(" " ) in stead of smart ones(¨ ¨)
[18:12] <truerocker_redhe> i have it downloaded, don't have a usb or dvd at moment with enough space, anyway around that
[18:12] <Klaypex> well unboot can install directly on hard drive. from windows ofc
[18:13] <truerocker_redhe> whats windows ofc?
[18:13] <Klaypex> what main sistem u use
[18:13] <Klaypex> os ^^
[18:13] <truerocker_redhe> ubuntu 12.04
[18:13] <rye> koolaidmini: is universal usb installer failing for you too?
[18:14] <Klaypex> oh. well. try unboot. he can install OS on some partition/hard if u hawe free one
[18:14] <Klaypex> i think he still can
[18:14] <JohnSmith82> Hello, if anyone got basic knowledge of bash scripts I could use some help with a (very) simple script. Shouldn't take more than 2-3 mins to do it. http://pastebin.com/crRFVbzw Thank's in advance.
[18:14] <xentity1x> Hi, my tty screens are black when I switch to them
[18:15] <Klaypex> but best is to install it on usb and then install on hdd
[18:15] <xentity1x> Can someone tell me how I can fix that
[18:15] <Traumatizer> Is there any way I can configure ubuntu to use dumb quotes(" " ) in stead of smart ones(¨ ¨)
[18:16] <sardior> Problem with Nautilus hanging when cutting and pasting files, hangs after moving a few of them.
[18:16] <sardior> Dolphin seems to work fine.
[18:16] <rye> Traumatizer: Ubuntu is an operating system, you may be referring to some application. Where do you see the quotes changing?
[18:17] <bluebeat09> unstable wifi connection- disconnects every now and then, have to manually disable wifi network and then enable it to regain connection
[18:17] <bluebeat09> any suggestions
[18:17] <bluebeat09> please...
[18:17] <JohnSmith82> Anyone got time to help me with the very simple bash script? should just check what number is in a file and then overwrite the number, so should be very easy to do
[18:18] <rye> bluebeat09: if youare running 802.11n network then there may be some driver issues (seen that on ath9k), downgrading to 801.11g has solved mine but YMMV
[18:19] <bluebeat09> thx rye, will try
[18:20] <Traumatizer> Rye, I know that but it applies to the whole operating system. I just can't type the dumb quotes and Qt creator only recognizes those. Not the smart ones. I suspect I need another  keyboard layout but don't know which one
[18:20] <sardior> Ok... try again later.
[18:20] <ubuntujo> I'm having massive write perfomance issues on my 12.10: 2 different drives (1TB, 150GB), Read 100MB/s, write 1MB/s, both on SATA, and on SATA over USB (same drive on external adapter); but the drive performs fine on a different machine. Any thoughts?
[18:21] <xentity1x> Hi, my tty screens are black when I switch to them. Any suggestions?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> bluebeat09: which wifi chip?
[18:21] <Cong> lubuntu doesn't have anything to handle fonts.
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Cong: in what way handle?
[18:21] <tion> 33
[18:22] <Cong> ActionParsnip, how do I install them? Put them in ~/fonts?
[18:22] <rye> JohnSmith82: Have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/168197 - maybe there is a more standar dway
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Cong: i have a full font set in linbreoffice, they are handling well here
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | Cong
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Cong: the font mechanism is identical across all 'buntus
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Cong: add font in /usr/share/fonts/truetype   and run: sudo fc-cache -f -v
[18:23] <hpfrantzy5> nice, what implications does BlueSystems supporting Kubuntu have on the project? As frustrated I am with unity and ubuntu, Canonical does have the right connections
[18:23] <JohnSmith82> rye: it's when i changed to LXDE then my function keys stopped working. i've downloaded samsung-tools and my function keys work in xfce and gnome classic, but its a netbook so resources are low so LXDE were better for me
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Cong: works in Ubuntu, kubuntu, Xubuntu, Backtrack, you name iy
[18:24] <Cong> ActionParsnip, about last time, thanks. I just went with the firmware-b43-installer.
[18:24] <Daro> lxde is greater on debian
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Cong: cool :)
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Daro: debian is a distro, lxde is a desktop, you can't compare the two
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Daro: you can run lxde on debian, the statement makes no sense
[18:25] <Daro> distro is software package compilation! and ubuntu god works name him distro ubuntu, lubutu, kubuntu etc
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Daro: then you probably meant Lubuntu is better than debian
[18:26] <Daro> always can install other evntorment writing apt-get install XXX ;)
[18:26] <Cong> I think he meant lxde + ubuntu is great.
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Daro: i know, i've used ubuntu and linux for a long while. i'm also an ubuntu member :)
[18:26] <rye> JohnSmith82: i guess you can base your script on this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Samsung_R505_Aura
[18:27] <Daro> no im really think if debian have beter configuration for lite eventorment
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Daro: it can, install debian cli only and then install fluxbox, slim and wicd. Super light OS, not even a DE taking up resources
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Daro: you are forgetting the flexibility of the OS
[18:29] <dpupp> hmm
[18:29] <Daro> flexibility hmm, I can always install a third-party add-ons one does not defend me
[18:29] <dpupp> My menu bar and status bar have gone missing ... Any ideas what to try to restore them?
[18:30] <ozpy> Hi. I Installed Ubuntu  on Windows 8 (Created a partition from windows. 2) Disabled UEFI. 3) Installed using USB. 4) Instalation succesful). I rebooted my laptop and now just logs into widows 8. No grub menu
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Daro: all 3 packages are in the official repos. how is that 3rd party?
[18:31] <Daro> is the ability to enable and added three companies
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Daro: if you use the open source apps from the official ubuntu repos, it is not 3rd party
[18:32] <Daro> for example, do not like and I use gnash flash player is available in the repo without adding anything
[18:32] <dpupp> after getting my nvidia card drivers working, everything seems to be working fine, except my menu bar and status bar are now missing from the desktop.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Daro: that is nothing to do with what we are talking about
[18:33] <rye> ozpy: you may want to check that grub was indeed installed on the hard drive and not the USB drive (seen this happened in virtual machines)
[18:33] <Daro> canconical is a 3rd party company
[18:33] <Achillion> Hello all. I'm running an 12.04 as a file server + media centre + other stuff. Once in a while I come home to find it completely turned off and not responding to wake-on-lan. Logs don't show anything out of the ordinary, not even an entry showing that the system is shutting down. Any ideas what I should look for?
[18:34] <rye> dpupp: i am not sure what you are referring to as a menu bar and status bar and what desktop you are referring to
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Daro: not when you are using Ubuntu, it is the 1st party for its users as it hosts the packages
[18:34] <Achillion> Sorry for the vagueness of my question, but I wouldn't be asking if I knew where to look
[18:34] <ozpy> rye: Can you tell me how to check that?
[18:34] <mark2013> I have an HD HomeRun Dual ATSC tuner. That connects to the Ubuntu Precise Pangolin ver. 12.04 via ethernet. My ubuntu does not handshake and MythTV finds no tuner cards. Device is working in Win7 w/o problem. MythTV has both working front/back end servers. How can I make handshake?
[18:35] <rye> ozpy: unfortunately the only way is to attempt to reinstall again and see what device is selected for grub installation - you will need to do manual partitioning for this
[18:35] <rye> Achillion: what's the setting for a power failure in BIOS, is it possible that the power simply went down?
[18:35] <dpupp> rye, in gnome i am missing the bottom desktop bar that shows running apps,  and top desktop bar where application menus are 0_0..
[18:35] <Daro> yes
[18:35] <rye> dpupp: what Ubuntu version are you running?
[18:35] <ozpy> Rye: Does it matter if the partition is not in the end or beggining?
[18:36] <ozpy> Rye: My linux partition is in the middle
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Daro: so how is Canonical 3rd party to it's users?
[18:36] <ubuntujo> Achillion: does your cleaning lady use that socket to plug in the vacuum cleaner?
[18:36] <Daro> no for me its 3rd party
[18:36] <Daro> i using debian
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Daro: debian isnn't supported here
[18:36] <Daro> with lxde
[18:37] <Daro> i know
[18:37] <rye> ozpy: I've seen some systems failing to boot when it was beyond first 1 GB (and that's in 2012, yeah...) but grub should be able to access its files. If grub is installed but not able to run then Windows would not boot as well
[18:37] <Achillion> rye: Other stuff in the house (and on the same multiplug extension) dont go down. For instance the router is plugged in on the same socket and I would notice if it went down. I even check the uptime.
[18:37] <Achillion> ubuntujo: :) no cleaning lady unfortunately
[18:37] <dpupp> rye, 10.04 ubuntu
[18:37] <rye> ozpy: therefore I think the bootloader was not installed in the proper location
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Daro: and mixing ubuntu repos in debian will cause a big mess
[18:38] <Achillion> Is it safe to assume that the lack of any kind of message in the logs points to a power failure -> instant shutdown?
[18:38] <rye> dpupp: I am afraid i don't remember how to add the panels in this case
[18:39] <dpupp> rye, I was messing around in synaptic and I might have unchecked something is hould not have. >_< and then I did an apt-get autoremove ... and the next time i rebooted... gone.
[18:39] <rye> Achillion: kernel panic would also leave no traces but the system will not power down unless there is a thermal setting in bios which shuts down everything when system overheats. So if system locked up, started using all the CPU... etc
[18:39] <rye> dpupp: ah, install ubuntu-desktop package
[18:39] <dpupp> OK will try that.
[18:39] <rye> dpupp: you can run terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T
[18:39] <Daro> installing frob deb packages
[18:39] <TexNixk> Achillion : you might monitor your CPU temperature ... if it's overheating that could cause a shutdown
[18:40] <Daro> or compile from soruce code
[18:40] <jhutchins> Achillion: Power sounds likely to me.  What about putting it on a UPS?
[18:40] <Daro> ;)
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Daro: what do you mean?
[18:40] <Achillion> rye, TexNixk: I've been stress testing using "stress" for the past 20 minutes. Temps and voltages look fine.
[18:40] <Achillion> Maybe I'll just check the cabling
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Daro: saying randomn stuff doesn't do anything, no is it a question
[18:40] <ozpy> Rye: As a summary:  Option  (1) I should reinstall ubuntu from USB. It does not matter if the partion is in the middle. Option (2) Can I install just the bootloader with the USB?
[18:41] <ubuntujo> Achillion: PSU overheat and safety shutdown?
[18:42] <rye> ozpy: 1 - no, 2 - yes, you will need to chroot from within USB installer and install grub manually
[18:42] <tdignan> Unity is grabbing Alt+Enter. I don't see anything in ccsm under ubuntu unity plugin. It is using the keybinding to maximize windows. I want it to release control of this keybinding to applications. How can I do that?
[18:42] <rye> ActionParsnip: are you able to look at the logs of the router
[18:43] <rye> ActionParsnip: .. sorry, look at the logs of the router to see when the link went down
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> rye: wrong target?
[18:43] <rye> ActionParsnip: yes, sorry again
[18:43] <rye> Achillion: are you able to check router logs to see when the link went down?
[18:44] <ubuntujo> tdignan: shortcut in System settings > Keyboard ?
[18:44] <tdignan> Perhaps it's not unity but X, I don't know. How do I see what program is holding alt+enter?
[18:44] <tdignan> oh?
[18:44] <tdignan> damn, the obvious place :P
[18:44]  * rye is fairly sure we are not grabbing Alt+Enter
[18:44] <tdignan> let me take a look
[18:44] <jordy> ubuntu brasil
[18:44] <tdignan> rye: then I have no idea how to explain why alt+enter maximizes: xterm, terminator, gnome-terminal, and idea
[18:44] <jordy> alguem do brasil ae ?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> rye: no worries dude :)
[18:45] <ozpy> Rye: So once Grub is installed manually, It won't messed up and I will access my Windows 8 partition?.. This new UEFI really made it harder to install Ubuntu
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> !br
[18:45] <rye> tdignan: what version and desktop environment are you running?
[18:45] <tdignan> rye: 12.10, quantal, latest everything, unity.
[18:45] <Vi> hey guys, is there a dedicated channel on irc for security matters ?
[18:46] <tw> How do I make radvd send a single host route? this is what I've been trying: http://pastebin.ca/2303993 but I don't get the route on the client: http://pastebin.ca/2303997 (ubuntu 12.04.1)
[18:46] <tdignan> rye: does it do the same for you if you hit alt+enter on an xterm?
[18:47] <rye> ozpy: unfortunately I am not able to answer this definitely, I don't have a UEFI machine. But installing grub should put a bootloader and update-grub should find another installed OS.
[18:47] <rye> tdignan: no, it is definitely not a default setting
[18:47] <tdignan> rye: :|
[18:47] <tdignan> rye: then somehow I made it happen
[18:47] <tdignan> any idea how to track it down?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Vi: security of what?
[18:49] <Vi> actionparsnip honeypots
[18:49] <rye> tdignan: hackish approach - conf dump / | grep --colour=always -C 10 '<Alt>'
[18:49] <ozpy> Rye: I'm not that expert on installing Grub. Do you have a link or instruction for this matter?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Vi: #vmware maybe
[18:50] <Vi> actionparsnip ty
[18:50] <tdignan> rye: perfect :)
[18:50] <rye> ozpy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:50] <rye> tdignan: please let me know if it is somewhere there, just curious
[18:51] <tdignan> rye: where do I get 'conf'?
[18:51] <rye> tdignan: argh... it's --- dconf dump / | grep --colour=always -C 10 '<Alt>'
[18:51] <tdignan> ah, thanks
[18:51] <Achillion> rye: Yes, I saw when the link went down, which is how I know there's nothing out of the ordinary in the ubuntu logs for that time
[18:52] <Achillion>  < ubuntujo> Achillion: PSU overheat and safety shutdown? -> could be, I'm afraid
[18:53] <tdignan> rye, here it is: [org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/grid]
[18:53] <tdignan> put-maximize-key='<Alt>Return'
[18:53] <rye> tdignan: great!
[18:53] <tdignan> thanks a million
[18:54] <ubuntujo> tdignan: do you have the compiz setting editor GUI, or can you just change the config files?
[18:54] <tdignan> ubuntujo: i've got ccsm, i'm going to try and figure out what it is in there, but I'm comfortable editing files
[18:54] <tdignan> i'd prefer to know what it was that I did in ccsm to cause this mayhem
[18:55] <tdignan> so i'm gonna go that route
[18:55] <ubuntujo> ok :)
[18:55] <TexNixk> Achillion : while you're checking your cables ... make sure there isn't a fuzz-ball between the CPU heat sink & Fan ... might a loose piece of fuzz sometimes gets sucked into the fan stopping it ... also make powersupply vents are free
[18:55] <ubuntujo> didn't know if you knew of ccsm :)
[18:55] <iamatt> hello can someone explain in short detail high overview of what it will take to create local repo so i can install packages on a cluster that does not have internet access
[18:56] <disharmonic> hi
[18:56] <iamatt> are all of the deb packages in /ubuntu/pool/main/
[18:56] <rye> tdignan: the configuration is now stored in dconf which is a big binary blob accessible by dconf api, you may want to use ccsm since there is not much fun in dconf cli app :)
[18:56] <iamatt> on the http site
[18:57] <faffaro> Hi guys, what it wrong with screen with big capitals
[18:57] <faffaro> I get this: SCREEN: command not found
[18:57] <disharmonic> I'm having issues playing anything in Minitube. Any ideas?
[18:57] <iamatt> i have a rack of armv7 servers running ubuntu  that i need to install some basic crap like ypbnd nis packages etc
[18:57] <disharmonic> Ubuntu 12.04 64bit btw
[18:57] <compdoc> iamatt, I love apt-cacher-ng, but I dont know if you can populate the cache by hand
[18:57] <Achillion> TexNixk: Will do, thanks!
[18:57] <iamatt> they do not have inet access so i need local repo
[18:57] <tdignan> rye: agreed. ccsm is a bit more descriptive.
[18:57] <rye> faffaro: where do you see capital SCREEN ?
[18:58] <iamatt> compdoc these systems are the only ubuntu in our data center they are  research systems  i need to create the repos without ubuntu
[18:58] <disharmonic> The issue is that playback doesn't start
[18:58] <tdignan> it was the window management -> grid checkbox
[18:58] <iamatt> compdoc i am rsyncing the packages now and will sneakernet to our secure network and then how to build the index files...
[18:58] <tdignan> thanks again, this has made it possible for me to use intellij comfortably again
[18:58] <faffaro> rye, I've a startup script. But it doesn't "startup" - but when I type: ps x I see the screen written with big letters.. and I tried it manually and it didn't work until I changed
[18:58] <TexNixk> Achillion : seems strange it only happens when you are gone ... you don't have a pet that could be playing with cords ?
[18:59] <compdoc> iamatt, there may be proxy servers with caching abilites
[18:59] <compdoc> ooops, nm - thats internet releated too
[18:59] <rye> faffaro: that's ok, applications can rename their name and this just tells that it is a parent screen process
[18:59] <iamatt> compdoc we are a secure  entity and cannot reach outside internet directly
[18:59] <rye> iamatt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors ?
[19:00] <iamatt> rye i need to build internal repo
[19:00] <iamatt> i am downloading the packages now  to usb drive..
[19:00] <faffaro> rye, ok nice.. but how come it doesn't start automatic the script. I do need to retype it again.
[19:00] <iamatt> i do not know what to do  after i  download the  intenet repo to make the index files   i know in rhel you would do a crepo
[19:01] <ubuntujo> Any advice on tracking down a super slow HDD writes? 1MiB/s writes acc. to dd (yeah, one meg)
[19:02] <vlt> ubuntujo: dd to what of
[19:02] <vlt> _
[19:02] <vlt> ?
[19:02] <ubuntujo> vlt: dd if=/dev/zero of=foobar bs=10M count=100
[19:03] <ubuntujo> vlt: reading is 100MB/s
[19:03] <vlt> ubuntujo: This is not a harddisk, this looks like a file in a file system.
[19:04] <ubuntujo> vlt: /dev/zero spawns null data (magic file)
[19:04] <vlt> ubuntujo: What's mounted where the file foobar is written to?
[19:04] <ubuntujo> my ext4 partition
[19:05] <ubuntujo> vlt: my ext4 partition. I should add that both HDDs and several partitions do this
[19:05] <billybob000> im having an issue where the dns name resolution takes a long time
[19:05] <vlt> ubuntujo: iostat from pkg sysstat
[19:05] <ubuntujo> vlt: and if I put the drive on USB, same thing
[19:06] <ubuntujo> vlt: but on usb to a different PC, 30M/sec (limited by usb)
[19:06] <blkadder> billybob000: Do you control the DNS server?
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: tried a different DNS?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: could try namebench, find the fastest DNS servers for where you are
[19:07] <billybob000> blkadder: unforuntalye i dont
[19:08] <billybob000> ActionParsnip: it doesn't make sense.. the dns name resoltion is slow only on my ubuntu box, but not on my windows box
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> billybob000: try other DNS servers, see if its the same#
[19:08] <blkadder> billybob000: dig is your friend.
[19:08] <chriscross> hey - can anyone assist with "no sound" using Ubuntu 12.10 on an HP xw4400?
[19:09] <rhin0> hi - installation failed (powercut) during install onto ssd - now I get a blank "prepare partitions" table (xubuntu)#
[19:09] <rhin0> can't install
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[19:10] <chriscross> hang on - lemme check
[19:10] <cyril4133> I have a firmware problem, can sbd help?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> zhanger: remake the USB stick and reinstall
[19:10] <Sysaxed> any command line tool to identify a song by giving it an mp3 file? Like shazam but for linux command line
[19:11] <ubuntujo> vlt: iostat 10 -> 2nd report (delta): 17% iowait (8-core machine) 1332 kB_wrtn/s
[19:12] <blkadder> billybob000: dig +trace host.
[19:13] <chriscross> ActionParsnip: looks like there are no soundcards on the system
[19:13] <chriscross> But it was working under Windows XP
[19:13] <chriscross> Sounds like install didn't recognize the sound hardware
[19:14] <chriscross> hang on...
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: can you give the generated url please
[19:14] <chriscross> that's what is recognized by ALSA - no sound cards
[19:14] <chriscross> sure, hang on...
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: that;s why I asked for the output, not your interpretation
[19:17] <root__> \list
[19:17] <chriscross> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b25b9179b0f5bfefe6ab6f9d646817825a755ac2
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: is the OS fully updated?
[19:19] <chriscross> ActionParsnip - how can I check?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:19] <chriscross> ok, hang on
[19:20] <ClientAlive> With gnome 3 on ubuntu 12.04 server, is it possible to save a desktop session? (not sure you call it that).
[19:20] <ubuntujo> vlt: thx anyways
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: why diodn't you just install the desktop OS?
[19:21] <chriscross> ActionParsnip: It's updating now.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> chriscross: updates fix a lot
[19:21] <ClientAlive> <ActionPar
[19:21] <ClientAlive> sorry
[19:22] <ClientAlive> I don't like unity I like gnome but I need a soln to a certain problem now
[19:23] <rye> ClientAlive: no, session saving is mostly nonexistent in all desktop environments. KDE tries to but applications don't usually comply
[19:23] <ClientAlive> I see
[19:24] <k1l> !away > chiluk
[19:24] <rye> ClientAlive: however I may be wrong as to what you refer as saving the session
[19:24] <ClientAlive> rye: Would something like that be easy enough to implement with scripts?
[19:24] <blkadder> ClientAlive: However installing a VM and using a decent VM manager makes it pretty easy to save most state.
[19:24] <ErdMutter> Would anyone have any suggestions for Mac software that could be used to flash the ubuntu iso to a usb storage device? I am running Mac OS X Mountain Lion. Also, which ubuntu ISO am I to use? Is it the normal 64 bit version, or is there one built for macs?
[19:25] <meet> how do i delete folder on the home directory
[19:25] <AceFace> hello all!
[19:25] <blkadder> meet: rm
[19:26] <ClientAlive> rye: There are some issues with my system that I need to deal with but I have all kind of applications launched, docments open, tabs in firefox open - been working on something for a while now. If it turns out I'll need to restart the computer (and I probably will) I don't wnat to lose all that.
[19:26] <blkadder> ClientAlive: Use a VM.
[19:26] <sako0938> Can anyone help with an iptables issue?
[19:26] <blkadder> sako0938: Perhaps.
[19:26] <rye> ErdMutter: re: what disk - 64bit should work on macs, and here's how you burn it - http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:26] <AceFace> i have a quick question, for those that are familiar with windows cmd, there is the "start" command which will spawn the command you specify and let it "run in the background" allowing you continue with the shell for other commands. is there an equivalent for bash?
[19:27] <blkadder> Yes.
[19:27] <blkadder> command &
[19:27] <rye> AceFace: run with & at the end to put task in background
[19:27] <ClientAlive> blkadder: that may be a bigger undertaking than I'm willing to engage in atm. Thanks though for offering a soln.  :)
[19:27] <AceFace> thanks blkadder!
[19:27] <AceFace> thanks rye
[19:28] <blkadder> ClientAlive: Np. I am using Virtualbox with Ubuntu as a VM and it does a great job of saving state.
[19:28] <sako0938> Im on a macbook and I was broadcasting a wired connection over wireless on OS X. Now on ubuntu it says I have eth0 and eth2, but no ath0 to broadcast with
[19:28] <rye> ClientAlive: in case of a failure firefox does restore the tabs on next start but that's pretty much all, there is no session store mechanism and every application is on its own to implement this.
[19:29] <blkadder> sako0938: What does that have to do with iptables?
[19:30] <Metalmurphy> Hi everyone. I'm having a weird problem. I just installed ubuntu 10.0 (old DVD I had), figured I'd just update to newest release instead of burning a new dvd. Anynway when I wasn't able to update I rebooted back to Windows 7, and now my network adapter only works at 10Mbps Full Duplex. It keeps disconnecting on any other setting. I have no idea why this is happening.
[19:30] <sako0938> Ive been reading that I should use iptables to forward the connection. I guess the issue is that lack of ath0, so any thoughts on that?
[19:30] <blkadder> sako0938: You are running Ubuntu on your macbook?
[19:30] <ClientAlive> I found this: http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/2.32/prefs-sessions.html.en  <- but doesn't seem like they're telling you how to do it, just that you can (then again, this may be old and not referring to the current version of gnome)
[19:30] <sako0938> yea, i have the 3rd party driver running also
[19:31] <meet> i was trying ubuntu builder but removed it. It has created a 1gb sized folder on the home directory. how do i delete that? I am getting directory not empty error
[19:31] <blkadder> sako0938: Well first you need to get it to see your wireless NIC.
[19:31] <ioria> meet : rm-rif
[19:31] <blkadder> No an iptables issue....
[19:31] <rhin0> partial install - can't see partition table now - how to get fdisk to recognise ssd?  need to see ssd fdisk -l = nothing
[19:31] <rhin0> please
[19:31] <ioria> meet : rm -rif
[19:31] <rye> ClientAlive: it is really an application job to do this at the moment
[19:31] <AceFace> rye, blkadder: it worked, thanks guys
[19:31] <MichaelP> Can i put a partition at the beginning of a 1 TB usb harddrive.. use unetbootin to put ubuntu on that patition ?
[19:32] <meet> ioria:  i tried rm -r but it is not deleting.
[19:32] <Vi> hey all, im in a ubuntu terminal, connected to a firewall that is connected to my router. how can i access my firewall configuration files?
[19:32] <ioria> meet : enter the folder and rm *
[19:32] <LambdaDusk> does anyone know how I can raise the volume of videos? I just encoded a bunch for my phone but some are very low, others are fine and I want to equalise the volume on them
[19:32] <rye> MichaelP: uhm, you can install ubuntu on an external usb harddrive
[19:32] <sako0938> how would i do that? I have internet so doesnt it already recognize the NIC
[19:32] <ClientAlive> rye: What do you mean?
[19:32] <blkadder> Vi: That depends.
[19:32] <rye> meet: why isn't GUI working for you?
[19:33] <Vi> blkadder, how do you mean?
[19:33] <blkadder> Vi: Are you using iptables?
[19:33] <MichaelP> rye, i just wanted to patition a usb harddrive and treat that partition as if it was a ubuntu usb stick
[19:33] <rye> ClientAlive: i mean that while there appears to be an infrastructure for this, it is largerly unused and there are no plans (as far as I know) to mandate its support
[19:33] <Vi> blkadder, im learning, and i need to deliver proof to my teacher that there is portforwarding in the firewall (for use of a honeypot)
[19:34] <blkadder> Vi: I am going to take that as a yes.
[19:34] <MichaelP> or will i have to do it on a usb stick that way
[19:34] <blkadder> iptables -L -v
[19:34] <Vi> blkadder, im pretty certain he uses ip tables yes
[19:34] <Vi> blkadder, thank you , lets see what that does
[19:34] <hilo> Is there a way to use mount --bind so that I can change the apparent permissions without actually changing them?
[19:35] <hbyte> 4 nfs
[19:35] <Vi> blkadder, i geuss not. Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[19:35] <Vi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[19:35] <Vi> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[19:35] <Vi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[19:35] <Vi> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[19:35] <Vi>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[19:35] <FloodBot1> Vi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <meet> rye:  it's not showing the delete or move to trash option in gui
[19:35] <rye> MichaelP: you can do this, yes, but you will need to manually write the image, create additional partitions but I've not done that
[19:36] <ClientAlive> rye: What you said there, that's what is confusing me by seeing that web page. It says: "Use the Session Options tabbed section..." which makes me think there is some interface to be found. wtf?
[19:36] <blkadder> Vi: What that is telling you is that iptables is not in use or not configured.
[19:36] <blkadder> Vi: So if it is acting as a firewall you need to determine what it is using for firewall software.
[19:37] <Vi> blkadder, yes indeed.
[19:37] <rye> ClientAlive: unfortunately the interface there is just an interface for applications that comply to the standard that gnome 2 uses. I am fairly sure there is even no session tab in gnome 3.
[19:37] <ClientAlive> rye: That web page is, apparently, in the "user-guide" (base on part of the url)
[19:37] <ClientAlive> rye: I see
[19:37] <MichaelP> rye, yeah unetbootin only see's thumb drive.. don't see the usn harddrive.... I just wanted to boot from it sence it's faster... But i'll use the thumb drive
[19:37] <Metalmurphy> Just found out two people with the exact same problem as me ( http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=71827 ), it's definetly Ubuntu related. This is so weird. hard booting the pc didn't work for me though.
[19:37] <ClientAlive> oh welllll....
[19:37] <ioria> meet : what's the ls -l  folder ?
[19:37] <rhin0> can't see ssd
[19:38] <rye> MichaelP: hm, i had exactly the opposite results for a flash drive vs hdd over USB, flash drive read speeds surpassed HDD ones
[19:38] <ZenMasta> is it possible to search for files based on a date range which they might have been modified?
[19:39] <hbyte> ls -lrt
[19:40] <rye> Metalmurphy: there may be an issue where linux driver puts a card in some state and windows driver does not reset it. Usually unplugging the machine and removing battery (if present) should clear the NIC's RAM
[19:40] <sako0938> Alright I looked at it says my wireless is connected under eth2.  Does there directions here:( http://www.howtoforge.com/internet-connection-sharing-masquerading-on-linux ) work? My install says iptables is not a service?
[19:40] <Metalmurphy> by battery, do u mean the rom one?
[19:40] <Vi> blkadder how do i go about this -_- sorry
[19:40] <Metalmurphy> or laptops one
[19:40] <rye> Metalmurphy: laptop's one
[19:41] <blkadder> Vi: ps -aef might be a good start.
[19:41] <Metalmurphy> desktop pc so dont have that. I'll try turning off the PSU.
[19:41] <Metalmurphy> thanks
[19:41] <ClientAlive> rye: why would they make it in a way that other apps need to comply? Afaik, if I type the path to the executable on the command line (often just the app's name) it will lanuch it. I'm also pretty sure a bash script would be capable of saving and restoring anythihng that is going on inside any application. I'm sure an interface for all that could be made to interact with all that too. Why wouldn't gnome just do what works? Makes no sense
[19:41] <ClientAlive> to me.
[19:41] <blkadder> Vi: Or perhaps asking the person responsible for the machine?
[19:42] <MichaelP> rye, my usb hdd is usb 3.0... hdd inside is 5400 rpm... flashdrives i have are usb 2.0
[19:42] <Vi> blkadder, heh, hes the kind of guy that prefers i figure it out myself.
[19:42] <Traumatizer> Hey rye, you're a pretty cool guy. Been on this chat for about 2 hours and you've helped a lot of people since than with their problems :)
[19:42] <blkadder> Vi: But you're really not, are you?
[19:43] <rhin0> gparted won't see my ssd - why not (anyone)#
[19:43] <Vi> blkadder,  not by a longshot, but geuss its the only way we'll learn wont we.
[19:43] <blkadder> Vi: Asking us to feed you commands isn't what I would consider "figuring it out by myself." :-)
[19:44] <Vi> blkadder, no its not . but i write the commands down and look them up, read the man pages and try to learn from them.
[19:44] <blkadder> Vi: So what makes you think this machine is acting as a firewall?
[19:44] <monod> Ubuntu. Is. Really. Challenging. My. Ability. To. Stand it.
[19:44] <Vi> blkadder its not, thats why i just figured out  i wouldnt find anything in ps -aef
[19:45] <monod> every damn day I have no damn sound out of my pc.
[19:45] <Vi> from what i figured out it should be  host------ firewall ----- router  / im on the host machine, but in the internal network.
[19:46] <monod> I'm exploding, I don't know what the hell do I have to do
[19:46] <rhin0> nobody can help me see my ssd fdisk -l no longer shows it
[19:46] <meet> for a little while I tried the login without password option from the user account settings. But now i am unable to revert back to the original.
[19:46] <TexNixk> !language | monod
[19:46] <rye> rhin0: if SSD is compliant to ATA/SATA standard then it's not something linux would work with. Is it visible in BIOS/setup?
[19:46] <rhin0> it was working
[19:46] <rhin0> partial installation failed
[19:46] <rhin0> now it won't install
[19:47] <TexNixk> !details | monod
[19:48] <trijntje> Hi all, I need some advice on installing ubuntu on a new Acer laptop. 1) I cant seem to get in the bios using F2 or F12. 2) If I just place the usb stick in the laptop it keeps cycling through the first bootup sequence. Who can help me sort this out?
[19:48] <rye> rhin0: if it does not detect a drive when nothing else has changed _and_ BIOS does find the drive then this may be a bug. However, based on the available data some SSD drives _do_ die suddenly and can not be detected either by BIOS or OS, some can be recovered by firmware upgrade so you should check whether your drive can be detected by BIOS
[19:49] <rhin0> ok ty
[19:49] <ZenMasta> hbyte thanks for that, but I don't know the actual name of the file that's modified so I'm trying to find amongst many directories any files that were modified between say Jan 1 - Jan 10 etc
[19:49] <craigbass1976> Someone hosed their desktop.  How (on 12.04) can someone remove and reinstall unity?
[19:49]  * rye wants to get a UEFI device just to see this beast
[19:49] <TexNixk> trijntje : does the keyboard have a function lock key
[19:50] <trijntje> TexNixk: you mean Fn key? It has
[19:51] <TexNixk> trijntje : you are pressing it before you attempt to enter bios ?
[19:51] <trijntje> TexNixk: no, should I try booting pressing only Fn?
[19:52] <TexNixk> as soon as pc powers hit the fn key then the function key required to enter bios :)
[19:53] <trijntje> TexNixk: I'll try, thanks
[19:53] <rye> trijntje: does the machine actually print anything upon bootup that says how to enter the setup?
[19:53] <TexNixk> trijntje : bios is set to quick boot ... you might need to be kinda fast to do it
[19:54] <TexNixk> if bios *
[19:54] <trijntje> TexNixk: it does look like fast boot, I dont see any messages at all, just an Acer splash screen
[19:54] <rye> trijntje: what's the model of the laptop?
[19:55] <TexNixk> trijntje : ok be quick then :)
[19:55] <trijntje> rye: Acer E1-531
[19:56] <evon> can anyone hear me?
[19:57] <trijntje> evon: yeah ;)
[19:57] <trijntje> TexNixk: no luck
[19:57] <LambdaDusk> can anyone tell me how I can increase the audio volume using avconv, please
[19:58] <trijntje> TexNixk: wohoo, I'm in the bios, no idea which key it was :D
[19:58] <evon> I've been trying to get Cs5 running on my amd64bit system all day.  Here's the error i get when i try to run photoshop http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1542412/
[19:59] <evon> pretty please help. i'm desperate
[19:59] <evon> trijntje: usually del, or F2 gets you into the bios
[19:59] <sako0938> Im using firestarter and (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless) I've made it a ways down the procedure but when I restart networking it says it cant bring eth2 online? It says set failed on eth2, invalid argument.
[20:00] <trijntje> evon: what guide are you using to run photoshop on ubuntu? I didn't know that was supported
[20:01] <trijntje> TexNixk: thanks for your help, the bios has an option to enable F12 for boot menu, so that should solve it
[20:01] <evon> trijntje: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159741/trying-to-migrate-windows-7-install-of-adobe-cs5-to-ubuntu-12-04-with-wine-in
[20:01] <compdoc> trijntje, likely based on wine
[20:01] <TexNixk> trijntje : yeah was just looking at that ... http://www.manualowl.com/m/Acer%20Computers/Aspire-E1-531/Manual/298658?page=44
[20:01] <compdoc> heh
[20:02] <TexNixk> trijntje : says F2 durring POST and doesn't mention using FN key
[20:03] <g0ldencode> hello
[20:03] <trijntje> TexNixk: now I'm at the next problem: trying to boot from usb lands me in a 3sec reboot cycle
[20:03] <trijntje> hi g0ldencode
[20:04] <trijntje> evon: by far the easiest solution would be to use GIMP instead of photoshop :P
[20:05] <evon> trijntje, LOL too much of a learning curve for me.
[20:05] <g0ldencode> I noticed an issue I dont know if you would call it a bug but with the gnome-shell I noticed by default when Installed there was no way of powering down
[20:05] <Vi> blkadder, i figured out with nmap that there are 5 hosts. 10.1.1.1-6 it seems that 10.1.1.2 is the firewall.
[20:06] <trijntje> evon: I can imagine that. I have no experience using photoshop or wine, so I cant help you I'm afraid
[20:06] <evon> Oh another issue i've been having is that i have not been able to get unity 3d to run.  I have a nvidia gtx 460 with drivers installed from www.geforce.com
[20:06] <g0ldencode> I had to switch to the tty console
[20:06] <p47> Does any body here have experience with openvpn ? I ca not connect
[20:07] <TexNixk> trijntje : you mean it won't boot usb stick ... just reboots every 3 seconds ?
[20:07] <trijntje> TexNixk: yes
[20:08] <TexNixk> let me look art bios options
[20:08] <trijntje> Maybe I can disable UEFI, but I thought ubuntu supported UEFI out of the box
[20:09] <rye> trijntje: it is, for 12.10/amd64 version
[20:10] <TexNixk> looks like you need to set the usb hdd boot priority to first item
[20:10] <TexNixk> trijntje : is this a dual boot with windows 8 ?
[20:10] <trijntje> TexNixk: that is the end goal yes. And I've set the bios to boot from usb first
[20:10] <rye> trijntje: but there appears to be issues with various level of brokennes for the implementation - some laptops won't boot from usb device if it did not come up fast during POST, you may want to burn DVD since it appears to have better support by these broken UEFI boot things
[20:11] <koder> hi all
[20:11] <trijntje> hi koder
[20:11] <koder> :)
[20:11] <trijntje> rye: ok, thanks for the tip. I'll have to go and see if I can dig up a dvd somewhere around here
[20:12] <trijntje> rye: do you know where I might send information about this laptop to help people solve some of the brokennes?
[20:12] <koder> i have problem runing nexuiz
[20:12] <TexNixk> trijntje : rye has a great point ;)
[20:12] <Vi> blkadder, now that i know that 10.1.1.2 is the firewall, is there anyway to get into it? ssh is blocked, telnet does nothing.
[20:12] <hilo> how can I put this command into a shell script? "sed \'#d\' /etc/vsftpd.passwd" such that the # is a variable in the script? I am trying to remove a line from a file.
[20:12] <koder> this is the error message
[20:12] <koder> Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[20:13] <koder> what does it mean ?
[20:13] <rye> koder: basically it looks like you don't have the 3D driver that would work with nexuiz
[20:13] <koder> rye: do i have to have card with acceleration to play nexuiz ?
[20:14] <rye> koder: yes, since it is a 3D game. I think that with non-accelerated drivers it will be something like a turn-based strategy
[20:14] <koder> it's strange i remember playing it on old pc
[20:15] <koder> maybe i am wrong
[20:15] <koder> ok thx for help
[20:15] <tion> new xorg and nvidia current updates broke opengl on my box!
[20:15] <tion> bastards
[20:15] <rye> koder: old != non-3d-accelerated, but it depends on the hardware
[20:15] <trijntje> TexNixk, rye: thanks for your help. I'll first try to see if win8 still boots when I disable UEFI, if it does I'll just leave it disabled and install ubuntu without UEFI. If it doesnt work, I'll try to find a dvd and install from there. Thanks for your time!
[20:16] <koder> rye: you are right
[20:16] <TexNixk> trijntje :good luck :)
[20:17] <rye> trijntje: i am not really sure where to report this kind of issues, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting seems to have some info, again I have never seen (nor i really want to see) a UEFI machine
[20:17] <tion> new computers should have bios flashed with win8
[20:17]  * rye wonders what his Thinkpad E420 has
[20:18] <TexNixk> this box has uefi, but NO windoze
[20:18] <rye> koder: at some point my Radeon 9000 turned into a pumpkin when ATI stopped providing acceleration support in their fglrx drivers, so YMMV
[20:19] <tion> we are at the whims of the hardware corps
[20:19] <drahti> atention it folows a bit comedy:
[20:20] <drahti> http://pastebin.com/RBsjALs4
[20:20] <trijntje> rye: btw, is 12.10 amd64 the only version of ubuntu that supports UEFI out of the box?
[20:21] <tion> fedora 18 fully supports UEFI
[20:23] <drahti> (EE) [mi] mieq is *NOT* the cause.  It is a victim.  <--- What the fuck
[20:23] <drahti> ?
[20:26] <koder> rye: i see
[20:26] <Kaapa> hello there
[20:27] <rye> trijntje: this is a better link - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_EFI_mode
[20:28] <rye> trijntje: "Secure Boot" is a new UEFI feature that appeared in 2012, with Windows8 preinstalled computers. The support for this feature has started with Ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[20:29] <trijntje> rye: I see. Because I've been trying to create a localised Dutch iso image for 12.10 64 bit, and it consitently fails to build, while all other versions and 12.10 32 bit build fine
[20:30] <Kaapa> I'm doing a bisect on the mainline kernel, trying to track down a bug. However, there's something I'm not understanding. I downloaded from ubuntu a kernel 3.3.8, but I can't find in the mainline any tag for 3.3.8
[20:30] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box! i have nvidia FX5200 card.
[20:30] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box? i have nvidia FX5200 card.
[20:30] <tion> currentlly im using the 173 driver
[20:31] <tion> j /ubuntu
[20:33] <Kaapa> short version: what does http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.3.8-quantal/ correspond to in kernel mailine repository so I can start bisecting it from here?
[20:34] <trijntje> I'm trying to install 12.10 64 bit on a new laptop. If UEFI is enabled in the bios, ubuntu won't boot from usb. If I disable UEFI ubuntu boots fine. If I install ubuntu with UEFI disabled, will I be able to enable UEFI again and boot to windows if I want?
[20:36] <tion> fedora 18 is the only distro so far that fully supports UEFI imo
[20:38] <ozpy> Hi
[20:39]  * sarsaeol waves to ozpy
[20:39] <ozpy> I run ubuntu 12.10 on HP DV7. Wireless is not working. My card is Ralink 3298
[20:41] <jhutchins> tion: Given that we've been running linux on uefi since apple started shipping them, I really doubt that.
[20:41] <super99iper> hi
[20:41] <trijntje> ozpy: have you tried connecting to an ethernet cable and installing extra drivers?
[20:42] <Guest48512> hello , how do i manually install grub 2?
[20:42] <heavyd> which is the best distro? according to some digging I did it came down to "OpenSuse", and "Mandriva"...opinions, anyone?
[20:43] <jhutchins> tion: I ran centos and rhel 5 on mac minis without any hassle.
[20:43] <tion> Its Secure Boot support allows Fedora 18 to be booted on Windows 8 PCs without hassle and, unlike Ubuntu, it also uses the security features of the technology.
[20:43] <ozpy> trijntje: I'm on ethernet but I don't know which drivers and how to install them... Can you please help me with this?
[20:43] <trijntje> I'm trying to install 12.10 64 bit on a new laptop. If UEFI is enabled in the bios, ubuntu won't boot from usb. If I disable UEFI ubuntu boots fine. If I install ubuntu with UEFI disabled, will I be able to enable UEFI again and boot to windows if I want?
[20:43] <tion> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-18-released-with-a-brand-new-installer-1784506.html
[20:43] <jhutchins> tion: Did you have a Ubuntu support question?
[20:44] <trijntje> ozpy: you can search for 'software sources' in the Dash, and in there go to the tab 'additional drivers'. If any drivers are available they should be listed there
[20:44] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box? i have nvidia FX5200 card.
[20:44] <tion> will new xorg and nvidia-current updates break opengl on my box? i have nvidia FX5200 card. Currently I'm using the 173 driver and opengl is working fine
[20:45] <jhutchins> !repeat
[20:45] <Logan_> !best | heavyd
[20:46] <heavyd> Understood...
[20:46] <ozpy> trijntje: Propietary drivers is empty... I need to get them. How to do it?
[20:46] <mokujin> Hello I have a problem with windows, I installed Ubuntu, and then I needed a window, and I installed Windows XP, 2005, net (other) local disk, after successfully installing Windows, I restarted the computer, thinking that now I will choose the desired operating system, but this has not happened, and ubuntu booted normally. How do I make the computer asked what OS load at startup? PS It would be nice to have someone explain it
[20:46] <mokujin> realties in Russian ...
[20:46] <tion> the best application is the one wuth more stars on soft center
[20:47] <Guest48512> hello , how do i manually install grub 2?
[20:47] <mitja> :q
[20:48] <trijntje> ozpy: do you see any wireless network?
[20:48] <trijntje> mokujin: you can change that from within ubuntu
[20:48] <ozpy> Trijntje: No wireless working. None detected. I'm installing Additional Drivers from Software center
[20:49] <evon> trijntje, Got it working
[20:49] <trijntje> mokujin: do the following: press alt+F2, and then type: gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[20:50] <evon> trijntje, Just installed wine 1.5.  ubuntu repos had wine 1.4 in it
[20:50] <tion> can anyone help?
[20:51] <trijntje> evon: cool, congrats!
[20:51] <evon> trijntje, Now i just have to figure out this blasted unity 3d issue.  I don't want to stay in 2d dammit
[20:52] <trijntje> mokujin: then change the line with GRUB_TIMEOUT to GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1
[20:52] <jhutchins> tion: You can check the xorg website and their mailing lists to see if anyone has reports of your hardware with the newer drivers.
[20:53] <trijntje> mokujin: also, don't make any typo's or your system won't work anymore ;)
[20:56] <Shutterstrom> Hi, anyone with good knowledge about sftp and samba security settings?
[20:56] <jhutchins> trijntje: Actually, just running update-grub should have detected the new Windows install - but if it didn't boot to windows something may have been wrong with ti.
[20:57] <jrib> Shutterstrom: best to just ask your question
[20:59] <mokujin> trijntje> still loads ubuntu
[20:59] <jhutchins> mokujin: THere may be something wrong with your windows install. Usually it takes over the system.
[21:00] <jhutchins> mokujin: You could try running update-grub to see if it auto-detects windows.  You should also make sure you have some sort of rescue CD to boot to if windows does take over the MBR.
[21:01] <rasp_pie> hi. Ich habe das OS für mein NAS auf einem billigen USB-Stick installiert. Es scheint, als würde der komisch reagieren, bzw. Daten verlieren. Nun möchte ich gerne einen neuen USB-Stick kaufen, der zuverlässiger ist. Habt ihr da irgend welche Empfehlungen? Oder wie zuverlässig sind USB-Sticks generell für die Installation eines (Unix-basierten) Betriebssystems?
[21:02] <jrib> !de | rasp_pie
[21:02] <rasp_pie> sorry, Übersetzung kommt gleich
[21:02] <Shutterstrom> I'm new to Linux and recently got a server where I have all my files (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS) and access them from my Windows 7 laptop. I mostly interact with the server from my laptop, but when I need to access the server from sftp (not from home) I need to change the ownership of the shared folder on order to access it from ftp program. I'm looking for a way to use both functions and not change
[21:02] <Shutterstrom> ownership of filestructure for each use.
[21:02] <guntbert> rasp_pie: better visit #ubuntu-de
[21:03] <jrib> Shutterstrom: what's the current ownership/permission like?  Why do you need to change it to access it?
[21:03] <trijntje> jhutchins: what do you mean?
[21:04] <rasp_pie> Hi. I installed the OS of my NAS on a cheap USB stick. it seems as this stick is losing data integrity or behaving strangely anyway. so I would like to buy a new USB stick to host the linux based operating system (=ubuntu). so what would you recommend me? does the manufacturer of the stick even matter? are there quality differences?
[21:04] <trijntje> jhutchins: nevermind, I see you were talking to mokuji
[21:04] <Shutterstrom> jrib: for samba usage: sudo chown henrik:henrik -R /share/
[21:04] <jhutchins> trijntje: Usually windows will overwrite the mbr without asking, so that it will boot directly on the next restart.  You then have to go back and replace the windows mbr with grub.
[21:05] <Shutterstrom> jrib: for sftp usage: sudo chown root:root -R /share/
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[21:05] <jrib> Shutterstrom: why don't you use sftp as henrik?
[21:05] <mokujin> sorry for my english -
[21:06] <trijntje> rasp_pie: I guess anything should be fine, I usually test the alpha/beta releases of ubuntu from an old external harddisk
[21:07] <jhutchins> rasp_pie: Most of the components are generic and manufactured by the same group of factories, then assembled and branded by the final company so no, brand usually doesn't matter at all.
[21:07] <trijntje> I would try to get a usb stick with high read/write speeds, and make sure you make regular backups to a real disk since flash drives suffer from wear
[21:07] <BvL> Hi, i need a little help, my laptop crashed yesterday while firefox was open now i get the error message
[21:07] <BvL> "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
[21:07] <jhutchins> rasp_pie: Poor performance is unusual - usually it either works or is a total failure.
[21:07] <BvL> I think i found the profile in the lost+found folder on my home partition, is there anyway to recover it?
[21:08] <mokujin> it says that windows found in the (path)
[21:08] <rasp_pie> ok, that helps. thank you, everybody!
[21:09] <Shutterstrom> jrib: the sftp should only have acces to one folder in the /share structue so therefore I'm using an account (called: heju) that only have access to sftp and can not see anything else. My own account (henrik) has more access then my sftp account (heju)
[21:09] <jamescarr> if I remove a directory as root and it has a symlink to usr, will it delete the contents under use?
[21:09] <jamescarr> *usr
[21:09] <jonascj> Hi everyone: does anyone know what piece of software is actually responsible for the logout/restart/lock button in the upper right corner of the stock ubuntu 12.x interface?
[21:09] <jamescarr> like I rm -rf foo, /foo/bar/baz is a symlink to /usr/
[21:09] <jrib> Shutterstrom: so what are the normal permissions on /share, you never said
[21:10] <Shutterstrom> jrib: 755
[21:10] <jrib> Shutterstrom: and you need heju to have write permissions?
[21:11] <jrib> jamescarr: make a small example and see.  But no it should just unlink your symlink
[21:11] <Shutterstrom> jrib: not intentinally.
[21:11] <jrib> Shutterstrom: then you shouldn't have to do anything
[21:11] <learnLinux> I dont get it.. headphones = awesome   speakers = less than to be desired.  I have beats audio in this HP pavilion and have to turn up the vol by 100% without the headphones and the quality isnt that good..
[21:11] <learnLinux> Using alsa
[21:11] <chaotix> when i install themes, i put them in "~/.themes" so that i dont have to touch "usr/share/themes", because i was told it is safer to not go outside your home folder unless you have  to...    should i create a folder called "~/.icons" for icons, or do i need to use "/usr/share/icons"?
[21:11] <Unicorn001> hi all, anyone who has experience with adding a linux boot entry to the Windows 8  Boot Manager while using UEFI bios boot option/disk setup?
[21:11] <jrib> Shutterstrom: by default you are giving "others" read permission with 755 so heju should be able to read
[21:12] <jrib> chaotix: ~/.icons used to work.  I haven't tried since gnome3 though.  I imagine it's still ok
[21:14] <Shutterstrom> jrib: Ok. let me rephrase that question in an other way then. Do you know how I can have full permissions on my samba share if it's owned by root and when I access it from my win7 laptop?
[21:15] <jrib> Shutterstrom: I'd ask you why not change the ownership to henrik
[21:16] <Shutterstrom> jrib: If I change ownership to henrik on /share I'm having problems to connect to the server from ftp.
[21:17] <jrib> Shutterstrom: what problems?
[21:17] <jrib> Shutterstrom: and I thought you said sftp
[21:17] <Shutterstrom> sorry, you're correct. I'm using sftp
[21:18] <alexwaters> we have an svn server with a whitelist, and i cannot connect to it from home. i do have ssh / sudo access to a remote AMI that is whitelisted by the svn server. Does anyone know how I could svn checkout on my home system using the remote AMI as a proxy to the svn server?
[21:19] <disharmonic> Can your boot drive use raid with md?
[21:19] <bekks> disharmonic: As long as it is RAID1, yes.
[21:19] <bekks> disharmonic: That applies to "/boot", not to "/".
[21:20] <disharmonic> I see. Putting boot on a USB could probably solve that
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> jrib: Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_5.9p1NaNDebian-5ubuntu1)
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> Authentication (publickey) successful!
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> Connected (version 2.0, client OpenSSH_5.9p1NaNDebian-5ubuntu1)
[21:20] <Shutterstrom> Unable to make a connection. Please try again.
[21:21] <trijntje> how can I make a compressed image of my whole harddisk?
[21:21] <jrib> Shutterstrom: the server is ubuntu?
[21:21] <Shutterstrom> jrib: correct. 12.04 LTS
[21:21] <jrib> Shutterstrom: can you pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[21:22] <disharmonic> trijntje, Clonezilla can do that
[21:22] <Shutterstrom> jrib: any certain part or the whole file
[21:22] <jrib> Shutterstrom: the whole file if possible
[21:23] <Shutterstrom> jrib: in channel or PM?
[21:23] <disharmonic> trijntje, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonezilla
[21:24] <trijntje> disharmonic: thanks, though I see it's not present in the software center?
[21:24] <guntbert> !pastebin | Shutterstrom
[21:24] <disharmonic> trijntje, you have to boot it from a USB. I don't thinks you can clone a disk while the system is live/has it mounted
[21:25] <trijntje> disharmonic: I see, I'll try it, thanks!
[21:26] <disharmonic> I think BTRFS has support for taking live snapshots now though
[21:27] <trijntje> disharmonic: I just noticed this on their webpage under limitations: destination partition must be equal or larger than the source partition. So it looks like there is no compression possible
[21:27] <_helios_> Hey I have installed the drivers for WUSB54GSC on my desktop Xubuntu 12.10 64bit,  using ndiswrapper everything shows installed,  When i lsusb the device shows up,  but it's still not working what could I be missing.
[21:28] <chessteach> I installed ubuntu via usb and it didn't complete the install. It didn't freeze or crash, but it got stuck on one step. It was disabling the cd from the source list and couldn't finish that step for whatever reason. I rebooted, and ubuntu loaded up fine.... Is there anyway to determine if I am missing something, or something is broken?
[21:28] <disharmonic> trijntje, Clonezilla does compression. Not sure if it doesa it on-the-fly though
[21:29] <trijntje> chessteach: I dont think there is. If you start getting all kinds of weird failures you might want to reinstall
[21:29] <_helios_> It's a USB wifi adapter its a pain in the butt to get working
[21:29] <trijntje> you could try installing the package ubuntu-desktop, if that installs extra packages you know some stuff was missing chessteach
[21:30] <chessteach> trijntje: I am having some issues, but I am not sure if it is related. I installed a windows manager and cannot get xrandr to work properly. It works fine in Unity though.
[21:30] <_helios_> anyone have any suggestions on a usb wifi adapter using ndiswrapper
[21:30] <_helios_> I have the drivers installed still dont show up as wlan0
[21:31] <trijntje> disharmonic: looks like you are correct, they do have a bunch of compression options in their FAQ
[21:32] <trijntje> thanks!
[21:32] <disharmonic> trijntje, iirc it does gzip and bzip
[21:32] <ProNet> Ребзя!
[21:33] <ProNet> Подскажите как реверс убрать при прокрутке scroll lockom???
[21:33] <manacit> can anyone help me with configuring networking?
[21:33] <ProNet> В linux)))
[21:33] <manacit> this is my /etc/network/interfaces
[21:33] <manacit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542643/
[21:33] <ProNet> Ладно ладно, пошел погуглю))
[21:34] <manacit> I'm trying to use route add, but it keeps telling me no such process
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> jrib:
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> # Package generated configuration file
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> # See the sshd_config(5) manpage for details
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> # What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> Port 5022
[21:34] <FloodBot1> Shutterstrom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <Shutterstrom> sorry :(
[21:35] <ProNet> Да вы че морите то))) У меня сабака на бэкспэйс лаит незнаю как убрать а Вы))
[21:35] <ProNet> Пошел гуглить)) Всем спасибо))
[21:36] <helder> Hi there, what is the easiest way to install Nvidia drivers?
[21:36] <iceroot> !nvidia | helder
[21:36] <ProNet> Во! Тоже интересно
[21:36] <iceroot> !ru | ProNet
[21:36] <ProNet> !ru
[21:37] <helder> ubottu:thanks
[21:37] <Shutterstrom> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542652/
[21:39] <jrib> Shutterstrom: oh, because of ChrootDirectory.  You require that?
[21:39] <uragano2> Hello, i suspect that somebody attacked my ubuntu-based home server and he successfully installed a rootkit. I scanned my system using rkhunter and chkrootkit in local and they didn't found nothing. But i had some supects yet
[21:40] <jrib> uragano2: what is your question?
[21:40] <Shutterstrom> jrib: is it because of the "ChrootDirectory" command? Is there anothere way to get to the correct folder on sftp access?
[21:42] <jrib> Shutterstrom: when you connect, you can specify which directory to start in.  Not sure if there is another way
[21:42] <uragano2> so i decided to scan my hd from an other computer, surprise: the system results very infected. But now i suspect that the results are false positive, because a lot of files are infected. I did the test using option -r /media/InfectedDrive, how can i check if my system is really infected? :(
[21:43] <Shutterstrom> jrib: aha..? besides using the ChrootDirectory command?
[21:44] <jrib> Shutterstrom: right, if you don't need that, then you can get rid of it and you won't have to have the directory owned by root.  When you connect (how exactly do you connect?), you can tell your client to start in /share or whatever
[21:44] <uragano2> chkrootkit says that the system is sane, rkhunter says that the system is infected :S, who is right?
[21:44] <jrib> Shutterstrom: ChrootDirectory just restricts the user to that particular directory so he can't see outside of it
[21:44] <jrib> uragano2: well, investigate the rkhunter output more...
[21:46] <tozen> hi guys! does anybody knows to how to configure huawei 3231 mobile internet dongle so system doesent see it...
[21:46] <jhutchins> tozen: So the system _doesn't_ see it?
[21:46] <uragano2> jrib: i have a backup of whole system made just i installed ubuntu on server, if i do md5sum old_ls and md5sum actual_ls they are different! does the upgrade change programs as ls, cp, ecc...?
[21:47] <jrib> uragano2: possibly
[21:47] <tozen> jhutchins: yes pastebinit | sudo fdisk -l
[21:47] <tozen> sorry
[21:47] <tozen> one min
[21:48] <Shutterstrom> jrib: thanks for the info! the idea is (for security reasons) to limit sftp user to this area. I'm also planning to add my brother to access this area and then I don't want him to access anything else. therefore I think that the ChrootDirectory command might be good.
[21:48] <Shutterstrom> jrib: I'm accessing sftp from Firefox with FireFTP-plugin.
[21:49] <tozen> jhitchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542681/
[21:49] <uragano2> jrib: anyway the depth log of rkhunter says only that the hash are different -.-
[21:49] <jrib> Shutterstrom: in that case, sshd_config documentation does say that root should own those files and no other user or group should be able to write to them.  I don't know if you can still use ACLs to add additional permissions to your other user.  You may want to ask #openssh about that
[21:50] <jrib> uragano2: I don't know; I'm not familiar with rkhunter
[21:50] <tozen> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542681/
[21:51] <Shutterstrom> jrib: I'll look through the documentation. Big thanks for the quick and good feedback! Have a greate day!
[21:52] <tozen> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542689/
[21:52] <Shutterstrom> (this is a fantastic way for immediate feedback
[21:53] <BvL> is there a way to restore files in the lost+found folder?
[21:54] <Cong> yeah if there is something in lost+found just put it back in it's proper place.
[21:55] <Lofde_> i have an issue my dependancies are all messed up because of one program... when i try to apt-get install something it wont let me install anything :(
[21:55] <Lofde_>  teamviewer:i386 : Depends: bash:i386 (>= 3.0) but it is not going to be installed... and it tells me to do a -f .. but it still wont install its like its hung
[21:58] <ncsquid22> Lofde I had the same issue for days...until I fixed it
[21:58] <BvL> the files in the lost+found folder have been renamed
[21:58] <ncsquid22> basically the apt-get -f install won't work right?
[21:58] <ncsquid22> -f is for fix broken packages...
[21:58] <lesshaste> in lubuntu how can i set up a vpn?
[21:59] <lesshaste> I don't seem to have a "configure vpn" option.. or where is it?
[21:59] <ncsquid22> here is what I did...
[21:59] <BvL> i dont know what the original file names was supposed to be
[21:59] <ncsquid22> 1) try removing the package first
[21:59] <ncsquid22> 2) try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:59] <ncsquid22> if it doesn't work...
[22:00] <Lofde_> i started to remove teamviewer before you said that and it must have worked because i noticed my updates werent running and it instantly popped up after it removed it..
[22:00] <ncsquid22> 3) use ubuntu software manager and try remove broke -fix broken packages gui and that should do it.
[22:00] <Shutterstrom> jrib: One more question regarding my toppic... If sftp folders need to be owned by root on order to access them from sftp, is there a way to tweek samba user (only henrik) to have full permissions to the /share/ ?
[22:01] <Lofde_> now when trying to do updates it keeps (X) on me and saying "requires updates from untrusted sources : spotify" lol .. geez ubuntu get it together haha
[22:02] <jrib> Shutterstrom: they don't have to be root no.  But if you want to use ChrootDirectory with them, they do.
[22:02] <jrib> Shutterstrom: in that case, sshd_config documentation does say that root should own those files and no other user or group should be able to write to them.  I don't know if you can still use ACLs to add additional permissions to your other user.  You may want to ask #openssh about that
[22:02] <jrib> Lofde_: pastebin « apt-get check »
[22:02] <Lofde_> thanks for the help ncsquid22 tho..
[22:02] <N66> yosh
[22:03] <Lofde_> jrib,  i will after these updates load ..
[22:03] <N66> k
[22:04] <Lofde_> jrib,  when i do apt-get check it just says " Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree   Reading state information... Done "
[22:05] <jrib> Lofde_: oh, I didn't see that you already fixed your issue by removing teamviewer
[22:05] <Lofde_> ive been trying to also install these updates i have to skip over the java 7 one it has been prone to not want to update.. and now the spotify.. i probably need to disable those repositories idk why they're not acting right
[22:05] <john_rambo> which app can tell me the size (inches) of a jpg image ?
[22:06] <salzb> jpg images by their very nature have no physical size
[22:06] <salzb> i suppose you could work it out depending on the dpi you intended to print them at
[22:07] <Tex_Nick> john_rambo ... try this ... http://auctionrepair.com/pixels.html ?
[22:08] <Pizentios> hi there, i was an idiot and did an upgrade in cpan on my system, now it seems i have two versions of perl installed, how would one go about getting rid of newly installed perl?
[22:08] <usr13> salzb: jpg images do in fact have a physical size.
[22:08] <ephesius> john_rambo: you should be able to do it using imagemagick http://superuser.com/a/370982
[22:08] <salzb> usr13 explain
[22:09] <Lofde_> big efff you to update-manager ... big thank you to synaptic package manager...
[22:09] <salzb> how
[22:09] <usr13> salzb: I'd have to give an example.  Just a minute.
[22:09] <salzb> like do they have some physical size encoded in there
[22:09] <salzb> idk
[22:10] <salzb> perhaps i am wrong.
[22:11] <jrote1> Helo
[22:11] <Lofde_> salzb, http://www.photoelf.com/support/faq/sizing.shtml
[22:11] <jrote1> Is it possible to sync users logins and passwords between ubuntu and windows?
[22:12] <salzb> i stand corrected
[22:12] <salzb> i think
[22:12] <john_rambo> ephesius, I just installed imagemagick but it is not appearing in the menu & not opening in terminal
[22:13] <Lofde_> jrote1, LDAP ..
[22:13] <jrib> john_rambo: it's a command-line program
[22:13] <jrote1> both of the operating systems are on the same computer?
[22:13] <Lofde_> oh then i dont know if a way?
[22:13] <jrib> john_rambo: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-tools.php
[22:14] <Unicorn001> I have just installed Linux to the second physical hard drive on a new laptop, where the initial system on sda is Windows 8 with UEFI bios feature and "Secure boot". I installed with the option to add  Grup to aits own partition, not MBR. Anyone who knows how to add Linux to the startup options in new BIOSes?
[22:14] <phunyguy> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up xbmc on Ubuntu 12.10, and I am a little confused with the audio portion.  I guess PulseAudio is decoding DTS and AC3 to PCM, but going over optical, I can only support two channels in that manner. (only way of connecting) - How can I tell it to pass-through AC3 and DTS streams over the optical output?
[22:14] <Unicorn001> (GruB)...
[22:15] <ephesius> john_rambo: its a command line application open terminal and run "identify image.jpg"
[22:15] <keithb> salzb: the photoelf site make the point you made, pictures have sizes in pixels, physical (inches or whatever) size depends on the dpi as you correctly stated
[22:16] <john_rambo> ephesius, I just did that but it is printing the pixels & not the value in inhes
[22:16] <ephesius> john_rambo: also just realized you said inches, this will only get you pixels afaik the actual measurement of the image would depend on the display its output to
[22:16] <usr13> salzb: http://jcubedtech.com/picbarimages/linux.jpg is 313x375 pixels which (if printed), would be 3.260x2.906 inches.
[22:17] <salzb> well, it depends on the dpi you print it at, i think
[22:17] <Ben64> definitely does
[22:17] <keithb> salzb: exactly
[22:18] <john_rambo> Okay
[22:18] <usr13> salzb: The physical size of http://jcubedtech.com/picbarimages/linux.jpg  is approximately 3&1/4" by 3".
[22:18] <usr13> salzb: No that is the size of the image.
[22:18] <Ben64> usr13: not necessarily
[22:19] <ephesius> john_rambo: this will give you a size in inches no idea what dpi its at though "identify -verbose image.jpg
[22:20] <ephesius> john_rambo: "identify -verbose image.jpg | grep Print"
[22:20] <usr13> salzb: The the higher the DPI the better the image quality, but the size will remain the same.  If you print it at it's actual size it will be 3.260"x3.9"  (My first statement was wrong, this is correct.)   about 3&1/4" by 4"  That is correct.
[22:20] <usr13> Ben64: Download the image yourself and see.
[22:21] <Ben64> yeah thats for 96dpi, which is not very good
[22:21] <usr13> it is 313 x 375 pixels which is 3.260" x 3.906"
[22:21] <john_rambo> ephesius, Found it. Thanks
[22:21] <keithb> usr13: no, the physical size depends on the dpi used. Higher dpi (for a fixed number of pixels) gives a smaller (phyical) image
[22:22] <ddssc> hai, what's the best way to install python on debian 6.0 squeeze? it's default is 2.6 I need 2.7
[22:22] <usr13> keithb: DPI is Dots Per Inch.
[22:22] <salzb> a jpg is a grid of various pixels with different colour values, of some fixed dimensions
[22:22] <zoktar> having issues supplying bug reports via ubuntu-bug 12.10 unity, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542820/
[22:22] <keithb> usr13: exactly so 1 dot = 1 pixel and a hiher dpi means a smaller picture
[22:23] <jrib> ddssc: #debian for debian support
[22:23] <ddssc> jrib, my bad
[22:24] <usr13> keithb: Higher DPI means higher quality.
[22:24] <ephesius> usr13: assuming an infinite amount of pixels
[22:24] <keithb> usr13: you are forgetting that the number of pixels is fixed
[22:24] <ddssc> what ubuntu dist comes with 2.7 default and is stable?
[22:24] <ddssc> python
[22:25] <Ben64> !info python
[22:25] <salzb> ok, suppose you were trying to print a large jpg image on a small physical area at a low dpi
[22:25] <salzb> you could perhaps do that by scaling it down and losing quality in that way
[22:25] <salzb> and...maybe that's what usr13 is thinking of
[22:25] <lupo> Ubuntu>Windows U_U EZZZZ
[22:26] <CrashUbi> I'm using an ubuntu live cd to investigate how a virus got onto my mother's windows 7 computer.  I found some of the virus' files were created at 21:31 yesterday.  How can I find other files that were created and access shortly before that to see what the user was doing leading up to that?
[22:26] <usr13> keithb: ephesius salzb For an explaination of the relationship of  DPI  as it relates to printers and images, see:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch
[22:27] <Ben64> CrashUbi: i'll save you some trouble. she was on the internet and saw a thing to "clean her computer" so she downloaded it and ran it
[22:27] <salzb> i understand dpi, but usr13 do you agree or disagree that a jpg is a grid of pixels of fixed dimensions, with various colour values?
[22:27] <usr13> "In printing, DPI (dots per inch) refers to the output resolution of a printer or imagesetter, and PPI (pixels per inch) refers to the input resolution of a photograph or image. DPI refers to the physical dot density of an image"
[22:27] <keithb> usr13: I don't care what wikipedia says, if you have NxN pixels in an image the square picture will have a side of N*dpi
[22:27] <salzb> i don't see how such a file can have physical dimensions
[22:28] <Ben64> usr13: we know all that, we're just saying you can't make a blanket statement that everything is 96dpi
[22:28] <salzb> independent of the dpi of whatever way you want to print or display it
[22:28] <keithb> I agree with salzb
[22:29] <ephesius> i agree with keithb agreeing with salzb
[22:29] <salzb> if you stipulate it's 96dpi or whatever it's easy to calculate the dimensions, of course
[22:29] <usr13> You guys can believe what you want to believe but it is what it is.
[22:29] <CrashUbi> ben64: If my mother were using the computer at the time, I'd agree, but it was my niece playing games.  I'm trying to find out what executable she downloaded, so I can block the download site after I restore it.
[22:29] <GuidoPallemans> How can I set a file type to open with a certain command-line application? Let's say that opensx file.x opens the file I want
[22:30] <keithb> usr13: it what we say it is, you are wrong
[22:30] <Lofde_> why cant DD have a progress meter like Wget :(
[22:30] <Ben64> CrashUbi: you can use "find" to find files created on the same day, but not time... you can use a weird "ls" thing to do it though
[22:30] <Ben64> Lofde_: killall -SIGUSR1 dd
[22:30] <CrashUbi> ben64: thanks; I'll man ls.
[22:31] <usr13> the actual size of a 313x375 image is 3.26"x3.906"
[22:31] <Ben64> CrashUbi: like this maybe .... "ls -lR | grep "21:31""
[22:31] <GuidoPallemans> How can I set a file type to open with a certain command-line application? Let's say that "opensx file.x" opens the file I want
[22:31] <v0lksman> any reason I would be seeing http://paste.ubuntu.com/1542874/ in my process list?  I don't use a proxy for anything
[22:31] <Ben64> usr13: at 96dpi, yes.
[22:31] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: and what do you want to do to have opensx open file.x?
[22:31] <Lofde_> i dont want to kill it i want to watch the operation of the img transfer ..
[22:31] <Ben64> Lofde_: sigusr1 doesn't kill it, it prints stats
[22:31] <ephesius> usr13: at 96 DPI you are correct but at 600 DPI it is 0.52x0.63 inches
[22:32] <CrashUbi> Il
[22:32] <Lofde_> ah ok... it would be cool if there was one that instead of seeing the processing stats could actually tell read rates .. ?
[22:32] <GuidoPallemans> jrib ah just double-click it in nautilus, and then it would open a terminal which runs openx selectedfile.x
[22:32] <salzb> usr13 is just messing with you at this point i think :P
[22:32] <jrib> !defaultapp | GuidoPallemans
[22:32] <Ben64> Lofde_: you could also use "pv"
[22:32] <CrashUbi> IR lR
[22:32] <usr13> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch
[22:32] <Lofde_> i did try...
[22:32] <Lofde_> i kept getting an error
[22:33] <Ben64> Lofde_: try this "dd if=/dev/zero | pv | dd of=/dev/null"
[22:33] <Lofde_> ben64 owner@owner-Dell-DXP061:~/Downloads$ sudo dd if=mele-ubuntu-lucid.img |pv|dd of=/dev/sde dd: opening `/dev/sde': Permission denied    0B 0:00:00 [   0B/s] [<=>
[22:33] <Ben64> oh sudo : /
[22:34] <GuidoPallemans> ubottu but it's a command-line application
[22:34] <Ben64> Lofde_: try putting sudo on the 2nd dd
[22:34] <Lofde_> hrm good idea :)
[22:34] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: that's fine
[22:34] <Ben64> Lofde_: not sure if it'll work still
[22:35] <GuidoPallemans> jrib I can't find a way to type in what the application name is
[22:35] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: you can "add" new applications in the "open with" tab after pressing properties
[22:35] <jrib> unless something changed...
[22:35] <unclezipper> I'm running Linux Mint 14 with KDE. A few days ago I tried to install Crystal Space 3d, and I had to reboot for unrelated reasons after the dependencies installed. When my computer booted back up, my primary monitor(laptop screen) was stuck in 640x480 mode and I couldn't change it. My other monitor, connected to VGA, works fine, though. Is it possible that something I installed changed my Xorg settings, and if so how would I fix
[22:35] <Lucis> Hello all, i have been granted access over ssh to a friends machine running in a network. I have to ssh over a port in the 7000 range. because port 22 is a honeypot. and i got an assignement for educating me. i have to make a full report with proof on how this works. i geuss its iptables and portforwarding on the firewall. i nmapd the local network and got 5 hosts, i am pretty certain the 10.1.1.2 is the firewall. how do i get more info on what
[22:35] <Lucis>  this firewall is doing without having access to it.
[22:35] <Ben64> jrib: my ubuntu doesn't let me do that anymore
[22:35] <Lofde_> Ben64,  you're awesome :D
[22:35] <Ben64> Lofde_: :D
[22:36] <GuidoPallemans> jrib no, that puts the selected application from "other applications" between the "recommended applications"
[22:37] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: then you have to create a .desktop file for your program
[22:37] <GuidoPallemans> hmm
[22:37] <usr13> Lofde_: ssh -vvv  ?
[22:37] <GuidoPallemans> I'll look it up, thanks
[22:37] <jrib> GuidoPallemans: you can put the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications
[22:37] <makerbreakr> anyone have any idea about this:  https://gist.github.com/4560499
[22:37] <makerbreakr> ubuntu 12.04, external USB microsd reader (8G card)
[22:38] <Lofde_> usr13, ?
[22:38] <S3cS2> Testing
[22:38] <usr13> Lofde_: If you've been granted ssh access then login to it and look at the output on the screen for more info.
[22:38] <CrashUbi> ben64: Grep cuts off directory paths. do you know how to get it to show me the directory paths on the same lines as the results?
[22:38] <salzb> i don't trust anything usr13 says until she renounces her flat earth views re: jpgs and dpi
[22:39] <usr13> Lofde_: ssh -vvv 10.x.x.x
[22:39] <Lofde_> usr13, i didnt ask about ssh login or access to anything?
[22:39] <usr13> Lofde_: ssh -vvv user@10.x.x.x
[22:39] <Lofde_> Lucis, ?
[22:39] <usr13> Lucis: Yes, sorry
[22:39] <Lofde_> n/p
[22:39] <Lucis> lofde_ usr13, sorry was not paying attention, give me a sec to read back
[22:39] <uragano2> does exist a way to see the changelog of standard ubuntu applications(ls, cp, su,..)?
[22:41] <usr13> Lucis: And, once your logged in, you can see what iptables rules there might be.  iptables -L
[22:41] <Lucis> usr13 im afraid i dont have access to it. output of ssh -vvv = connect to port 22 refused
[22:42] <Lucis> usr13 which is normal since port 22 shows closed when i nmap 10.1.1.2
[22:42] <jrib> uragano2: apt-get changelog coreutils
[22:42] <jrib> usr13: (or whatever package your program belongs to)
[22:42] <usr13> Lucis: But you said, "i have been granted access over ssh to a friends machine running in a network"  ???
[22:42] <usr13> jrib: Wrong nick
[22:43] <jrib> usr13: pick a new first letter!
[22:43] <usr13> Okeydokey
[22:43] <uragano2> jrib: the system is not running, does exist a changelog on internet?
[22:43] <usr13> (too many nicks
[22:43] <jrib> uragano2: packages.ubuntu.com will link to the changelog
[22:44] <uragano2> jrib: thanks :)
[22:44] <Lucis> usr13     http://pastebin.com/xz1Xpz6u  this is the output of the nmap -O
[22:45] <Lucis> usr13 i have access to the host on 10.1.1.6, a machine running ubuntu, not the firewall.
[22:45] <Lofde_> in ubuntu if my soundcard is putting out 100%.. how can i supercharge that to 120%
[22:46] <Lofde_> hahahah never mind they built that in :D
[22:47] <sylphie> Lofde_ \ you'd need an external amp
[22:47] <M1DLG> Anyone familiar with getiplayer here?
[22:48] <ephesius> Lucis: the only way to view the rules would be from the firewall
[22:48] <KeyboardNotFound> ubottu how are you ?
[22:48] <Lofde_> sylphie, in the sound preferences they actually let you push past 100% ..
[22:48] <usr13> Lucis: There are other options for nmap, (see man nmap)  Example: nmap -A -T4 -p22 10.1.1.2
[22:49] <emily_> hi
[22:49] <usr13> Lucis: There is also traceroute
[22:50] <Lucis> usr13, yes i tried that before but it outputs just a single record of port 22 instead of the rest.
[22:51] <Lucis> usr13 lets see what traceroute outputs.
[22:51] <usr13> Lucis: traceroute -p22 10.1.1.2   #Just an example, subsitute 22 for other ports as need be.
[22:52] <Lucis> usr13 yes i'm trying it out.
[22:53] <usr13> Lucis: Read the man files, (I only threw a couple of random optins out there for you to look at, you try your own).
[22:54] <Lucis> they are good options and ill look into it. ty
[22:54] <usr13> Lucis: NP Good luck
[22:54] <M1DLG> Anyone able to spend 5 mins to help me set up a launcher for getiplayer?
[22:54] <Lucis> ty
[22:55] <iamabigfairyman> I've been binging for tips installing AIM all day, any tips?
[22:56] <usr13> iamabigfairyman: pidgin ?
[22:58] <uragano2> solved different hash problem finding a user with same configuration! Hash match:)
[23:00] <calavera> I'm having trouble dual booting on my uefi system.
[23:01] <calavera> Would anybody have any experience with this?
[23:01] <skp1_> !java
[23:05] <atari2600a> Join the Enlightenment!
[23:05] <calavera> Hello?
[23:05] <calavera> /msg NICKSERV identify barisax!
[23:05] <atari2600a> no u
[23:05] <calavera> Whelp...
[23:06] <jrib> calavera: well at least you don't have an embarrassing password
[23:06] <Tex_Nick> jrib : lol
[23:06] <dniMretsaM> jrib: we all know how that goes
[23:07] <dniMretsaM> I've seen some... odd passwords in my IRC travels
[23:07] <DJFUCHACK3R> Ain't Life A Rolling Bitch?
[23:07] <keith_b> Can someone advise on how to fix shockwave crashing in Chromium? I have tried turning off hardware acceleration, but when the window appears, it doesn't allow the option to be unchecked. Videos are crasing about 50-60% of the time.
[23:08] <keith_b> *crashing
[23:08] <DJFUCHACK3R> I think you should direct your question to Jack Bauer.
[23:08] <jrib> DJFUCHACK3R: please stay on the topic of ubuntu support here
[23:09] <Tex_Nick> !ot | DJFUCHACK3R
[23:09] <DJFUCHACK3R> Jack Bauer Is An Ubuntu Support Specialist.
[23:09] <DJFUCHACK3R> Jack Will Take Care Of Your African Nationalism Problems No Question Asked. :)
[23:09] <keith_b> Well, since I am running Ubuntu, thought someone may have seen the Chromium problem, is there a Chromium support IRC?
[23:10] <Tex_Nick> DJFUCHACK3R : you were asked to stop that several hours ago
[23:10] <DJFUCHACK3R> Love The Nick Tex_
[23:11] <sylphie> keith_b \ do you think it's a chromium specific problem?
[23:11] <keith_b> no it is happening in both firefox and chromium.
[23:12] <sylphie> so it's more of a shockwave problem
[23:14] <soahccc> I really would like to use file transfer via jabber but the servers are horribly slow. If I read it correctly I need some sort of SOCKS5 Proxy. Wasn't that possible with a SSH port forwarding thing? (unless somebody knows a fast jabber ft proxy)
[23:18] <jonascj> Anyone using "dmenu" ?
[23:19] <helder> tried to install nvidia drivers via software sources dialog box, and end up with 800x600 screen and no unity...
[23:19] <helder> any ideas?
[23:21] <usr13> helder: Do you have the GUI configuration app?
[23:22] <usr13> helder: If you installed nvidia driver, it should have left you with aGUI application that allows you to change or set screen size resolutions.
[23:22] <helder> usr13: I don't know... meanwhile I reverted back to the default drivers...
[23:22] <usr13> helder: O
[23:23] <usr13> helder: Well, you're prolly better off with open source driver anyway.
[23:23] <helder> urs13: Oh that, yes I did have that, but it was missing all the info...
[23:23] <usr13> helder: But FYI, there is also xrandr
[23:23] <helder> urs13: yes, but no 3d aceleration...
[23:24] <jonascj> If anyone's using dmenu I cannot for all things good in this world specify a font for dmenu
[23:24] <usr13> helder: Well, the driver was either broken or miss-configured or just the wrong one for your card.
[23:25] <usr13> helder: But it's been my expirence that the Nvidia installer will not allow you to install wrong driver.
[23:25] <helder> urs13: one thing I notice was the xorg.cfg file was blank...
[23:25] <usr13> helder: Ok, well that is a problem.  The install was clearly not complete, (missing nvidia-setup).
[23:26] <usr13> helder: nvidia-xconfig  or  nvidia-settings  one or the other...
[23:27] <helder> usr13: yap... going to the forum to see if there is another way to install the driver
[23:27] <usr13> helder: nvidia-xconfig is a tool intended to provide basic control over configuration options available in the NVIDIA X driver.
[23:28] <keith_b> sorry sylphie, should have AFK (was a child emergency), yes the problem seems to be shockwave. It may be a problem with my NVidia card. It seems to be a common problem, but I haven't found a solution as of yet.
[23:28] <Bower^> any recommendations for a program that will allow me to connect to a db, carry out queries etc? i like using sqlyog on windows
[23:28] <usr13> helder: nvidia-xconfig writes the xorg.conf file.
[23:28] <DJFUCHACK3R> PLEASE WAIT WHILE WE DENTALLY SEARCH YOU FOR CAVITIES.
[23:28] <helder> usr13: yes... I run that command in the terminal to create de xorg.cfg file, and it stated i was ok in the end...
[23:28] <irv> how can i make a directory writable by my user from the shell
[23:28] <usr13> helder: sudo ?
[23:28] <helder> yes
[23:29] <Bower^> irv: chown the folder
[23:29] <jrib> !permissions | irv
[23:29] <usr13> irv: chmod +w file.name
[23:29] <helder> usr13: yes as root
[23:29] <irv> i'm running a cs go server and it can't write the automatic demos to the folder so just chown the whole folder?
[23:29] <irv> or is there a way to just make it writable
[23:29] <madprops> is the hicolor icon set still supported? i run batti a battery monitor for the tray but some of icons are missing
[23:29] <usr13> helder: I dono... should have done it. Did you do nvidia-settings?
[23:30] <Bower^> irv: chmod will do that
[23:30] <irv> just with the dirname? thanks!
[23:31] <usr13> irv: Look at and see what needs to be done.   ls -l
[23:31] <Bower^> you should read up permissions (link ubottu provided)
[23:31] <irv> thanks all :D
[23:31] <madprops> what's the command to fire up the indicator area?
[23:31] <helder> usr13: yes i run nvidia-settings as well, but like i said, there were not the usual information or options...
[23:32] <usr13> helder: How did you install the driver?
[23:33] <Bower^> any recommendations for a database querying program? bit tired of using phpmyadmin
[23:38] <ox1de> I have one suggestion to the Ubuntu programmers: Please upgrade and program better music visualizers for ubuntu!
[23:38] <ox1de> music visualizers are the only thing I've ever found lacking in ubuntu
[23:39] <usr13> ox1de: We mostly just listen to music....  (sorry, couldn't resist :)
[23:41] <usr13> I wish I would have asked what his favorite music visualizer was.  Darn it....
[23:43] <helder> usr13: via the software sources dialog box
[23:45] <ubu> help, i have xubuntu 12.10 x64...all good, but now /tmp size is only 1MB...what happened?  i can't update my system because /tmp is only 1MB
[23:47] <madprops> anybody knows of a nano based editor but better?
[23:47] <madprops> like not vi or emacs
[23:47] <madprops> just a simple editor
[23:47] <jrib> madprops: what's wrong with nano?
[23:47] <madprops> just wondering if there was something more powerful
[23:47] <madprops> that i was missing
[23:47] <jrib> madprops: vim and emacs :)
[23:47] <madprops> >_>
[23:48] <jrib> madprops: there are a few other editors but those are the big three.  Just search the repositories for "text editor"
[23:51] <irv> sorry to bug y'all again, but after reading the article i'm still a bit confused how i would do one thing.. i want to temporarily add a user to have write permissions to the root of the filesystem (/) but not underneath that. is this possible?
[23:51] <jrib> irv: why do you want to do that?
[23:51] <irv> there's a bug in a piece of software which is writing files there. i need to be able to run it tonight before a patch will be out heh
[23:52] <irv> and i'm running the program that's writing there as my user
[23:52] <irv> rather than root
[23:52] <irv> heh
[23:52] <irv> so instead of running it as root i'd prefer to temporarily put the write permissions for my user account to /
[23:52] <irv> i suppose it doesn't matter if it's the whole filesystem underneath, except for the fact that it would be harder to undo i think
[23:53] <jrib> irv: i would not advise giving a piece of buggy software permissions to /...
[23:53] <BvL> is there any way to figure out what the original file names are in the "lost+found folder?"
[23:53] <irv> it's a halflife server
[23:53] <irv> they have a bug that stores the demos automatically but it's adding a / infront of the filename, causing it to try to store in the root of hte filesystem
[23:54] <irv> if running the entire server as root is a more secure solution, then i guess i'll do that
[23:54] <jrib> irv: you can't turn off the demos saving automatically?
[23:54] <irv> it just seems less secure to run the whole thing as root rather than just giving it write access to one dir
[23:54] <jrib> irv: it's not secure, it's just about as bad
[23:54] <irv> i could turn off the auto recording, but then i have to manually start and stop the recordings throughout the night
[23:55] <irv> which is not what i'd like to be doing this evening :P
[23:55] <jrib> irv: is this some new bug?
[23:55] <irv> however if there's no way then i dunno
[23:55] <irv> it's CSGO specifically
[23:55] <irv> and it's been reported for a few months, just hasn't been patched yet
[23:55] <irv> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3031882
[23:55] <KI4RO> Anyone know where the latest version (2.1.3) of gtkpod is?
[23:55] <irv> this character realized that it was trying to write to the root dir
[23:55] <irv> which is why it was failing even when i gave myself write permissions to the dir where the binary is :P
[23:56] <irv> so there's no way to give it just write access to / and not every folder underneath?
[23:57] <ox1de> OK! I found a music visual called soundwheel but it wants me to "buy" althought the price is set to $0.00
[23:57] <ox1de> I'd like to try it, what should I do?
[23:58] <ox1de> I have no way of paying for software
[23:58] <BvL> is there any way to figure out what the original file names are in the "lost+found folder?"