BarkingFish | good morning :) | 02:21 |
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BarkingFish | just had an interesting little discussion in #kubuntu with someone called TheLordOfTime - apparently, he's been informed by the release team and the core team that only Ubuntu calls itself an LTS :) | 02:23 |
BarkingFish | I called him out on it, using http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release as a source, and he gets all huffy with me and rageparts :) | 02:23 |
BarkingFish | back in a moment, gotta refire the housebrick. | 02:35 |
ScottK | Someone tell BarkingFish it's been fixed. | 03:27 |
soee | good morning | 07:34 |
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Peace- | sleep => eth doesn't work anymoere 12.10 | 08:43 |
Peace- | <info> (eth0): IP6 addrconf timed out or failed. | 08:44 |
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soee | i see raring RC3 ready :) | 11:35 |
soee | nice, any news about backport ? | 11:35 |
Riddell | soee: still on raring, needing testing | 11:35 |
soee | ah, i can test it on VM tonight | 11:36 |
kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1074371] In Kubuntu 12.10, systemsettings does not show "system languages" @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1074371 (by Ganton) | 11:53 |
yofel_ | hm, ninjas is running out of space... what is the janitor doing... | 12:06 |
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Riddell | 10.0 GiB (99.61%) of 10.0 GiB | 12:14 |
Riddell | hmm yes | 12:14 |
Peace- | Riddell: do you know something about supend and ... eth problems with network manager in rarirn ? | 12:14 |
* yofel tries to make kubuntu-ppa-build-status work on staging | 12:14 | |
Peace- | i am connected via wifi and it works after supend but eth0 won't do it | 12:14 |
Riddell | yofel: I would guess that's the packages for precise taking up extra space | 12:15 |
Riddell | Peace-: nope | 12:15 |
Peace- | mmm this installation of rarin is strange | 12:15 |
yofel | Riddell: hm, before we uploaded 4.9.98 we had space though. I think it's just the janitor being a bit too lazy... | 12:15 |
Peace- | i have done mini iso installation => kde-full selected | 12:15 |
yofel | Peace-: any hints in dmesg from the wakeup log? | 12:16 |
Peace- | and it failed to install something | 12:16 |
Peace- | i guess some package | 12:16 |
yofel | kde-full won't install kubuntu though | 12:16 |
Peace- | then i have removed kde-full from the installation list and it worked | 12:16 |
yofel | (at least some parts not) | 12:16 |
Peace- | after that i ahve installed kubuntu-desktop and kde-full | 12:16 |
Peace- | and it did not installed xorg-xseerver-video intel but i dunno maybe it's correct in this way | 12:17 |
Peace- | now :D eth doesn't connect after suspend | 12:17 |
Peace- | the weird thing is that i have another pc with raring that just works well | 12:17 |
Peace- | :D | 12:17 |
Peace- | yofel: ok i will paste the error | 12:18 |
Peace- | yofel: <info> (eth0): IP6 addrconf timed out or failed. | 12:18 |
yofel | hm, that's hardly suprising unless you have ip6 | 12:19 |
Peace- | yofel: <warn> (eth0): DHCPv4 request timed out. | 12:19 |
yofel | ok, that's worse | 12:19 |
yofel | does ifconfig show the interface as up? | 12:19 |
Peace- | yofel: http://paste.kde.org/650342 | 12:20 |
Peace- | yofel: for me is yes | 12:20 |
yofel | what does dhclient say if you run it yourself | 12:20 |
yofel | ? | 12:20 |
Peace- | yofel: i need to run just dhclient on konsole? | 12:20 |
yofel | sudo dhclient eth0 should work | 12:21 |
Peace- | yofel: mm :D seems nothing | 12:21 |
yofel | o.O | 12:21 |
Peace- | yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/18/plasma-desktopvd1995.png | 12:21 |
yofel | then I'm clueless | 12:22 |
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Peace- | infact is strange | 12:22 |
yofel | try #ubuntu+1, maybe someone's awake | 12:23 |
Peace- | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1545057 | 12:23 |
Peace- | yofel: ah no there is no problem i mean i can reboot | 12:24 |
Peace- | or just use wifi | 12:24 |
yofel | true, but still... | 12:24 |
yofel | ok, kubuntu-ppa-build-status now supports non-ninja tracking \o/ | 12:25 |
yofel | (thanks go to debfx for good script design..) | 12:25 |
shadeslayer | err sorry for disappearing last night, a combination of rain + power outages knocked out my ISP | 12:26 |
Peace- | shadeslayer: :D | 12:26 |
Riddell | yofel: are you thinking of using staging for RC3 backports? | 12:26 |
yofel | yeah | 12:26 |
shadeslayer | otoh I figured out what was causing my video to not show up in pgst | 12:26 |
shadeslayer | so not a total loss | 12:26 |
yofel | shadeslayer: could you guys please decide whether you don't have electricity because it's too hot or because you get shortcutted due to rain? | 12:27 |
shadeslayer | hehe | 12:28 |
Riddell | yofel: I just backported qextserialport into ninjas, a new marble dependency | 12:31 |
yofel | raring? | 12:32 |
Riddell | it's in the archive (debian sync) | 12:32 |
Riddell | and I uploaded it for quantal and precise to ninjas | 12:32 |
Riddell | so I'd say TODO for the day is: backport RC3, upload RC3 to raring archive, package amarok | 12:34 |
Riddell | who wants what? | 12:34 |
yofel | I'll copy what's needed into staging and then throw the backports in there, I don't think we really need to wait for the release announcement to put them there | 12:35 |
yofel | if someone uses them before that and it breaks it's his fault | 12:36 |
Peace- | yofel: mm i have solved bymyself | 12:36 |
Peace- | yofel: :S with dhcp fails | 12:36 |
Riddell | yofel: groovy | 12:39 |
sem_ | mah with static ip works again | 12:40 |
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Riddell | I'll get it uploaded to raring once I've tested | 12:41 |
Peace-- | Riddell: system settings => input device => touchpad => crassh | 12:42 |
Riddell | Peace--: hum, I agree | 12:43 |
Peace-- | Riddell: you got it too ? | 12:44 |
Riddell | yep | 12:44 |
Peace-- | *.* | 12:44 |
shadeslayer | use synaptiks | 12:44 |
shadeslayer | that particular KCM uses python2 whereas the kcm is built against python3 | 12:45 |
Peace-- | ah | 12:45 |
yofel | apachelogger: didn't you plan to fix something there? ^ | 12:45 |
shadeslayer | and when I mean use synaptiks, I mean type 'synaptiks' in krunner :P | 12:45 |
Peace-- | :P | 12:46 |
Peace-- | sbivol: | 12:47 |
Peace-- | srr | 12:47 |
Peace-- | shadeslayer: funny i have not a touchpad it says | 12:47 |
shadeslayer | haha | 12:47 |
Peace-- | well i use a mouse so no problem at all :D | 12:48 |
BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:29 |
Peace-- | bb | 13:39 |
shadeslayer | yofel: what happened to quantal/precise backports status page? | 13:44 |
yofel | I'm NOW starting to upload - there is nothing to generate stats from | 13:45 |
jussi | has anyone got a lightdm theme for kubuntu that actually looks nice? | 13:45 |
shadeslayer | ah | 13:46 |
shadeslayer | jussi: poke d_ed | 13:46 |
Riddell | hum | 13:49 |
Riddell | why have all my applications lost their menu bar in RC3? | 13:49 |
jussi | Riddell: is the menu gone? or just hidden? | 13:50 |
Riddell | it's gone | 13:50 |
jussi | ouch | 13:50 |
Riddell | Menubar Style is set to In application | 13:51 |
jussi | Riddell: has chromium lost its initial tab also? (mine has) | 13:51 |
Riddell | no chromium still has tabs, and that would be unrelated anyway | 13:51 |
jussi | shadeslayer: Ill wait for d_ed to come in and Ill POUNCE on him... | 13:51 |
shadeslayer | :D | 13:51 |
jussi | Riddell: yeah, I know unrelated, but just asking for some confirmation from someone, as you all ignored me yesterday | 13:52 |
jussi | :P | 13:52 |
Riddell | hum, I can get menus back by setting them to window bar then back to menu bar | 13:53 |
Riddell | hum | 13:53 |
jussi | shadeslayer: see the ubuntu lightdm theme is nice... but the kubuntu one.......... | 13:53 |
shadeslayer | I know :) | 13:54 |
jussi | Riddell: and the normal ctrl+m didnt help...? | 13:54 |
shadeslayer | it'd be nice to get some sort of designer to design it | 13:54 |
jussi | shadeslayer: ++ | 13:54 |
shadeslayer | and not a developer design it | 13:54 |
jussi | shadeslayer: who was our resident designer here... | 13:54 |
jussi | apart from nuno... | 13:54 |
shadeslayer | idk | 13:54 |
Riddell | sheyton did some back in the day | 13:55 |
jussi | ahh yes, thats right. not around atm | 13:55 |
jussi | I wonder how hard it is to do - might try my hand at it | 13:55 |
shadeslayer | it's all QML | 13:55 |
shadeslayer | and they say QML is easy | 13:55 |
jussi | apparently... | 13:55 |
jussi | shadeslayer: If I make a pretty picture, will you implement it? | 13:55 |
jussi | :D | 13:56 |
shadeslayer | err no | 13:56 |
shadeslayer | I don't like QML | 13:56 |
jussi | bwahahah | 13:56 |
* jussi hugs shadeslayer | 13:56 | |
shadeslayer | or rather, I don't like typeless languages in general | 13:56 |
shadeslayer | they make my head spin | 13:56 |
jussi | hehe | 13:56 |
yofel | shadeslayer obviously doesn't do enough script programming | 13:56 |
shadeslayer | not alot :) | 13:57 |
yofel | (I understand your point though) | 13:57 |
shadeslayer | I lurv my C's and C++'s | 13:57 |
yofel | do we have some C like scripting language? (besides csh I mean) | 13:58 |
shadeslayer | go? | 13:58 |
yofel | ... | 13:58 |
shadeslayer | :P | 13:58 |
shadeslayer | they implemented the nexus 7 brightness handling and screen rotation stuff in go | 13:59 |
yofel | ok, packages going up, will take a while | 13:59 |
shadeslayer | but that takes up quite some memory ( 1.8 MB's ) | 13:59 |
shadeslayer | so they're going to re-implement it in C as a daemon | 13:59 |
jussi | lol | 14:00 |
jussi | hrm, so, be patient with me - Qt creator would be the place to begin with for the lightdm thing? or? | 14:00 |
yofel | fun thing I saw recently was exception handling for OutOfMemoryError's in a java application I was asked to extend | 14:00 |
shadeslayer | jussi: hmm ... no idea ... | 14:00 |
yofel | that code was from around 2002 though | 14:00 |
jussi | I guess Ill start by grabbing the source of lightdm-kde-greeter from the repos... | 14:02 |
yofel | geh, the backport script can't handle the a suffix in 4.9.98a | 14:12 |
Riddell | only 1 of them, just do it manually? | 14:15 |
yofel | that's what I'm doing for now | 14:15 |
yofel | I'll try to make the script handle that a bit better later | 14:15 |
shadeslayer | heh | 14:17 |
Riddell | trying out a new ec2 install and none of the applications have menus either with 4.9.97 | 14:39 |
Riddell | so I guess it's nothing new | 14:39 |
yofel | shadeslayer: kde up for both, l10n up for quantal, l10n for precise will take a while longer | 15:16 |
Riddell | kubuntu-archive-upload is taking is usual age to run | 15:17 |
Riddell | I'm working on amarok in the mean time | 15:17 |
Riddell | The name's Riddell http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-card.jpg | 15:53 |
Riddell | shadeslayer, Quintasan_: how's that? | 15:54 |
apachelogger | yofel: the kcm still needs porting | 16:00 |
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shadeslayer | finally have internets :D | 19:34 |
shadeslayer | ooohh | 19:34 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: you already got them printed? | 19:35 |
shadeslayer | and you have your @ubuntu.com address on them :P | 19:36 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: the kpythonpluginmanager is built for both python and python3. | 19:52 |
shadeslayer | oh | 19:52 |
ScottK | If the python stuff is trying the python3 version, we need to fix that. | 19:53 |
shadeslayer | then why does synaptiks crash via systemsettings? | 19:53 |
shadeslayer | hm | 19:53 |
shadeslayer | it's kind of weird | 19:53 |
shadeslayer | because if you start synaptiks standalone it works | 19:53 |
shadeslayer | bah, how long does it take to ack SRU's :( | 19:55 |
ScottK | /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m.so python3-pykde4 | 19:56 |
ScottK | /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so python-kde4 | 19:56 |
shadeslayer | and for some reason I don't see transmission in the precise queue | 19:56 |
ScottK | So python shouldn't even recognize the python3 one as a valid python so file. | 19:57 |
shadeslayer | oh heh | 20:00 |
shadeslayer | errr ... aren't we a bit early with uploading the tarballs? | 20:51 |
shadeslayer | I thought 4.9.98 was still embargoed | 20:51 |
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shadeslayer | hah | 22:13 |
shadeslayer | install plasma-active on the desktop completely screws your desktop settings | 22:13 |
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