| === len is now known as Guest94023 | ||
| calavera | Hello? | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| musca | Hello calavera | 00:06 |
| calavera | Hello. | 00:06 |
| calavera | Would you be able to help me with my problem? | 00:06 |
| musca | may be | 00:07 |
| calavera | Well, I'm having trouble where GRUB can't see my NTFS drive | 00:10 |
| calavera | When it tries to boot, it gives me an invalid file path error. | 00:10 |
| musca | well, uefi systems use a GUID partition table | 00:10 |
| calavera | What does that mean? | 00:10 |
| musca | only systems booted in uefi mode see the existing partitions | 00:11 |
| musca | systems booted in BIOS mode see a MBR with an entry that claims the full capacity (no free space left) | 00:12 |
| musca | a fake MBR that is | 00:13 |
| musca | if your existing Win7 is an uefi system you will have to boot your linux install media in uefi mode | 00:14 |
| musca | your media must contain some special efi files | 00:17 |
| calavera | So are you saying that I should just reinstall *buntu? | 00:22 |
| musca | i dunno what your problem is, what you did before, what you want to do, and so on | 00:23 |
| calavera | I have two hard drives in my laptop with W7 as my primary. | 00:24 |
| calavera | I want to dual boot across both of them using GRUB, if possible. | 00:24 |
| calavera | The UEFI system is making that hard. | 00:24 |
| calavera | Every time that I want to boot into Windows, GRUB tells me that there is an invalid file path. | 00:25 |
| musca | this is quite new stuff for me and i don't know if there is a workaround | 00:26 |
| musca | How do you boot your windows now? | 00:27 |
| musca | perhaps you can create an entry for grub in your windows boot manager | 00:29 |
| calavera | I am booting Windows using the MBR. I eventually got tired of messing with it, and I just let MBR overwrite GRUB, and then I just let GNU/ Linux just sit on there. | 00:29 |
| musca | hmm, did you try to find some howto on the inet? | 00:32 |
| musca | http://askubuntu.com/questions/193144/dual-boot-uefi-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-both-64-bits-w7-entry-doesnt-appea | 00:32 |
| BarkingFish | sorry about that - I completely forgot to come back here after I rebooted :P I guess old age is catching up with me! | 00:59 |
| BarkingFish | Right - I disabled the desktop items, turned off Folder view and did everything humanly possible to knobble kio_thumbnail, but it came back when I rebooted. | 00:59 |
| BarkingFish | Looks like FlowRiser has left - yofel, any other ideas? | 01:00 |
| BarkingFish | I tried strace against the process when I could get into a terminal, and it just sat there. Did nothing even while kio_thumbnail was slowing my kit down to practically 0% usage | 01:01 |
| BarkingFish | *usage/usability | 01:01 |
| dabauer | What printer do I use with Ubuntu??? | 01:02 |
| BarkingFish | !printers | 01:03 |
| ubottu | Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu | 01:03 |
| dabauer | OK, CUPS I'll use but with what printer??? | 01:03 |
| BarkingFish | there should be a list in there of all those compatible with cups, dabauer | 01:04 |
| dabauer | OK, let me go look | 01:04 |
| BarkingFish | if you read the page about Hardware Support Components that should be it | 01:04 |
| morgajel | dabauer: printer support is pretty good at this point; most drivers are 95%+ complete, and just lack the features that otherwise require manufacturer apps to use. | 01:19 |
| dabauer | just bought a printer from thinkpenguin, an HP printer, should work OK. | 01:32 |
| juacom99 | hi, one question, i'm on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and every time i start my computer i get an crash error regarding lsb_release. I saw the bug track but they don't say enithing about a solution for this bug. any idea if is posible to solve it and how? | 02:08 |
| BarkingFish | juacom99, Hi. Do you have the link to the bug please? | 02:09 |
| TheLordOfTime | as an aside, by the way, Kubuntu 12.04 is not LTS. Only Ubuntu (the Unity ubuntu) has the LTS title :P{ | 02:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | sorry, i'm just a stickler for accuracy :p | 02:10 |
| BarkingFish | I certainly know there's no bug as far as I am aware in 12.10 - i've been on it since it came out and never seen one. Come to think of it, i never saw one on 12.04 either | 02:11 |
| juacom99 | BarkingFish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1094218 | 02:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] | 02:11 |
| BarkingFish | TheLordOfTime, I'm sorry, you're wrong. | 02:11 |
| BarkingFish | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release | 02:11 |
| TheLordOfTime | BarkingFish, really? I was told differently by the release team | 02:12 |
| TheLordOfTime | and the dev team | 02:12 |
| BarkingFish | if you're a stickler for accuracy, please ensure you're accurate | 02:12 |
| TheLordOfTime | hell even been called out here about it too | 02:12 |
| BarkingFish | nope | 02:12 |
| juacom99 | it seeams is a pyton script calling lsb_release | 02:13 |
| juacom99 | that crash | 02:13 |
| BarkingFish | yeah - it was only reported a week or two back, juacom99 | 02:13 |
| * TheLordOfTime shrugs | 02:13 | |
| BarkingFish | it might take a while to figure out how to resolve it | 02:13 |
| juacom99 | ok thanks | 02:14 |
| BarkingFish | in the mean time, as I say - you have the option of upgrading to 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) | 02:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | BarkingFish, when i hear someone on the core dev team tell me this (and by core i mean the team that devs the things all flavors are dependent on), i'll believe you, until then, you and i can argue. | 02:14 |
| BarkingFish | and I know there's no errors in that | 02:14 |
| BarkingFish | TheLordOfTime, when it's on Kubuntu's own website, it isn't wrong. | 02:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm here actyually to figure out what the KDE runtime package is, so i can install KDE without all the Kubuntu applications | 02:14 |
| BarkingFish | It wouldn't get pulished otherwise | 02:14 |
| BarkingFish | *published | 02:15 |
| juacom99 | BarkingFish: is really mature 12.10 at this point? | 02:15 |
| BarkingFish | juacom99, it's quite mature, yes - we go to 13.04 in 3 months time | 02:15 |
| juacom99 | ok i may make an upgrade then | 02:16 |
| BarkingFish | juacom99, i'd do that - we're only 3 months away from Raring Racoon coming out, but 12.10 is clean at the moment. | 02:18 |
| rishubh | i Have rekonq 1.1 version...how can i update it to the latest stable version or latest developing version? | 02:19 |
| BarkingFish | rishubh, which version of Kubuntu are you using? | 02:19 |
| juacom99 | BarkingFish: so you say i should wait till 13.04? | 02:20 |
| BarkingFish | *Raring Ringtail, sorry | 02:20 |
| BarkingFish | i have raccoons on the brain :) | 02:20 |
| BarkingFish | No, 12.10 is ok , juacom99 | 02:20 |
| BarkingFish | it just means if you upgrade now, to get past this error - you will need to upgrade again in about 3 months | 02:21 |
| juacom99 | BarkingFish: can you refresh my memory on the command to upgrade version?? | 02:23 |
| BarkingFish | in a terminal, do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 02:24 |
| BarkingFish | incidentally, is there anyone here who can tell me why kubuntu has rpm software when we don't use rpms? | 02:27 |
| juacom99 | kubuntu don't have rpm software itself, it has a tool to comvert rpm to deb (alien) and then install it in kubuntu.. | 02:32 |
| BarkingFish | ah - i just saw something install called rpm2cpio, and there's other rpm building tools and stuff in here too :) | 02:34 |
| BarkingFish | anyhoo, i gotta reboot, back in a tick | 02:34 |
| tekkbuzz | juacom99, wajig converts rpms too! | 02:46 |
| juacom99 | tekkbuzz: neve heard of wajig.... | 02:47 |
| tekkbuzz | juacom99, it's in the repos. | 02:47 |
| tekkbuzz | wajig - simple and unified package management for Debian | 02:51 |
| BarkingFish | i'm also trying to figure out how to upgrade to raring ringtail so i can go bug hunting on it | 02:53 |
| BarkingFish | anyone got any ideas? I know I have to add something or do something somewhere, but I can't remember what or how | 02:54 |
| DarthFrog | BarkingFish: do-release-upgrade -d | 02:54 |
| BarkingFish | aha, thanks :) | 02:55 |
| juacom99 | anyone have any idea on how to backup a partition before make an update? | 02:57 |
| juacom99 | dd but how | 02:57 |
| tekkbuzz | dd if=/dev/sda1 of=sda1.img ??? | 03:00 |
| juacom99 | i don't have to tell the dd the length of the partition or where it start? | 03:02 |
| tekkbuzz | nope | 03:02 |
| BarkingFish | morning DarthFrog - thought i'd let you know. not sure what is up, but do-release-upgrade is busted | 03:03 |
| BarkingFish | http://pastebin.com/C69uLeEN | 03:03 |
| DarthFrog | Lovely. | 03:03 |
| rishubh | BarkingFish: 12.10 | 03:03 |
| tekkbuzz | make sure you pick the right partition you want though. | 03:03 |
| juacom99 | i got 2 disks with 3 partition each one it gonna be a hard call :P | 03:04 |
| juacom99 | but i think i know witch is the right one | 03:04 |
| tekkbuzz | cat /proc/partitions | 03:05 |
| BarkingFish | rishubh, if you put through updates on kubuntu, whatever you have now is the stable version. | 03:05 |
| rishubh | sorry but i didnt get u | 03:05 |
| rishubh | do i already have all updated version? | 03:06 |
| BarkingFish | yes | 03:06 |
| BarkingFish | when you do updates you get the latest version available | 03:06 |
| rishubh | but my rekonq is 1.1 version | 03:06 |
| rishubh | and thats not latest | 03:06 |
| BarkingFish | actually, it's the latest one we have | 03:07 |
| BarkingFish | open up a terminal and type: apt-cache policy rekonq | 03:07 |
| BarkingFish | you will see this: Candidate: 1.1-0ubuntu1 | 03:07 |
| BarkingFish | we may have a proposed version somewhere, but that's the latest stable one we issue | 03:08 |
| rishubh | ok.... | 03:08 |
| rishubh | but kde has got better ones | 03:08 |
| rishubh | i mean more updated | 03:08 |
| BarkingFish | if you want a proposed version, i will tell you how to add the proposed updates to kubuntu | 03:09 |
| rishubh | ya sure | 03:09 |
| rishubh | what exactly is a proposed version? | 03:10 |
| BarkingFish | it's one we're in the process of getting ready, but which hasn't been generally released | 03:11 |
| BarkingFish | it's intended pretty much for bug testing :) | 03:11 |
| BarkingFish | open a terminal, and type: kdesudo software-properties-kde | 03:12 |
| rishubh | ya and i am doing bug testing.. | 03:12 |
| BarkingFish | when it opens, click the updates tab | 03:13 |
| rishubh | done | 03:13 |
| BarkingFish | and tick pre-released updates and (if you're adventurous) unsupported updates | 03:13 |
| rishubh | ticked both of them | 03:14 |
| BarkingFish | when you've done this, click close and you'll be told you need to update your sources | 03:14 |
| BarkingFish | click reload and wait | 03:14 |
| tekkbuzz | anyone know how kubuntu interacts with xorg.conf, I know it don't need it, but could I write kubuntus config to it somehow then edit it to my liking? | 03:15 |
| rishubh | wheres reload button its only reset and close | 03:15 |
| BarkingFish | rishubh - you should see a box telling you your sources are out of date | 03:16 |
| BarkingFish | the two buttons underneath should be reload and close if you're running in english - how they're worded in other languages, i don't know - it depends on how your system is localized | 03:16 |
| rishubh | BarkingFish: there are two buttons one is reset and close...thats it | 03:17 |
| BarkingFish | click close | 03:17 |
| rishubh | BarkingFish: ok...now it says do you want to reload.. | 03:18 |
| rishubh | so i clicked it | 03:18 |
| BarkingFish | ah, you missed a step in what i wrote above then :) | 03:18 |
| BarkingFish | "<BarkingFish> when you've done this, click close and you'll be told you need to update your sources" | 03:18 |
| rishubh | ya sorry i missed it | 03:19 |
| BarkingFish | in a few moments, it will finish and you will most likely get a symbol on your system bar - a cogwheel with a down arrow in it. | 03:19 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| BarkingFish | you will have updates to put through :) | 03:19 |
| BarkingFish | i have it here, right now :) | 03:19 |
| tekkbuzz | anyone know where kde's x settings are stored at? | 03:20 |
| rishubh | by the way..i am dowloading software updates from software update...will that help? | 03:21 |
| BarkingFish | i don't really think it matters, rishubh - i use apper. Some people use muon, others use aptitude. Whatever works is good :) | 03:21 |
| rishubh | BarkingFish: after all that what you said kubuntu opened software update and i ticked all the updates and clicked on install updatess..i hope i am goin right | 03:23 |
| BarkingFish | yep. You're installing what you asked for - proposed updates, and the adventurous stuff | 03:24 |
| BarkingFish | if you ticked it, you're getting it | 03:24 |
| DarthFrog | BarkingFish: I use apt-get. :-) | 03:24 |
| BarkingFish | As I said. Whatever works is good :) | 03:24 |
| rishubh | i think it will take some time...thankyou for helping..after it gets innstalled i will get back to you in case i have any problem..thanks | 03:25 |
| BarkingFish | ok, rishubh - i may not be here, since it's late where I am - 4.25 in the morning. | 03:25 |
| BarkingFish | other people will be here though, so if you don't get an answer straight away, hold on - someone will be around | 03:25 |
| rishubh | ok...thanks | 03:25 |
| BarkingFish | no problem | 03:26 |
| BarkingFish | right guys, good night - I'm outta here to get to bed on a very chilly Munich night. Gn8 :D | 03:26 |
| tekkbuzz | Does anyone know how to stream pulse audio from one system to another? | 03:40 |
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| Rish | How to update KUBUNTU from 10.10 to 12.10??...Can i update using command line...? | 05:30 |
| Rish | Does kubuntu 12.10 works in a 32 bit Windows 7 system in virtual box | 05:30 |
| Rish | ? | 05:30 |
| admshanshuo_ | 翻出去了 | 05:40 |
| admshanshuo_ | 蛋疼 | 05:40 |
| admshanshuo_ | 我要去上课了 | 05:40 |
| robtygart | Can anyone tell me why, when I open a Window Like Dolphin it always opens behind the window I have open | 06:50 |
| Tm_T | robtygart: how's your window settings? | 06:55 |
| robtygart | What do you mean? | 06:56 |
| robtygart | Tm_T: What do you mean? | 06:57 |
| Tm_T | robtygart: you can configure focus stealing prevention | 07:03 |
| Tm_T | or how windows are placed when opened | 07:03 |
| robtygart | Tm_T: focus stealing pervention. Yes I can | 07:05 |
| robtygart | Tm_T: OK I got it fix. Thank you very much!!!! | 07:07 |
| Tm_T | no prob | 07:08 |
| Tm_T | robtygart: you had focus stealing prevention set to max? | 07:08 |
| robtygart | Just about.. High, its set to low now. | 07:09 |
| robtygart | What does Focus stealing mean anyway? | 07:09 |
| robtygart | Odd name, I would not have guessed. | 07:10 |
| Tm_T | robtygart: focus stealing is when focus is taken by new window or dialog | 07:12 |
| Tm_T | robtygart: something that is not always desired, for example if you're writing a password to some text field and then chat window pops up taking the focus... | 07:13 |
| robtygart | Ok, thanks, I learned something new. | 07:13 |
| robtygart | Good idea. | 07:14 |
| robtygart | What level do you suggest? | 07:15 |
| sahil_ | Hello | 07:45 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 09:23 |
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| denis_ | hi all | 10:09 |
| lordievader | Hey denis_ | 10:09 |
| denis_ | I am from Russia | 10:09 |
| === FabianB is now known as Guest25508 | ||
| denis_ | I am setup Kubuntu :) | 10:10 |
| lordievader | denis_: Nice, liking it so far? Btw there is a russian chat room. | 10:15 |
| lordievader | !russian | 10:15 |
| ubottu | Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 10:15 |
| denis_ | ok. I find russian chat room | 10:15 |
| mr0wl | has the catalyst driver bug been fixed with the new release? | 10:34 |
| mr0wl | or should i stick to the open drivers | 10:34 |
| IRCApplet | Hello | 10:59 |
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| Amarilis | how can i disable touchpad? | 12:33 |
| lordievader | Amarilis: There is probably a better way, however there is a Unity Indicator that can do exactly that. | 12:33 |
| lordievader | Amarilis: http://shuffleos.com/2753/touchpad-indicator-enable-disable-touchpad-ubuntu-panel/ | 12:34 |
| Amarilis | lordievader: i'm using kubuntu | 12:34 |
| lordievader | Amarilis: I know, but this is a way that will work. Even in Kubuntu, I have used it in the past under Kubuntu. | 12:35 |
| Amarilis | ooohh, i see | 12:36 |
| === sem_ is now known as Peace-- | ||
| Peace-- | Amarilis: there is kcm module for that | 12:41 |
| Peace-- | Amarilis: system settings device =>touchpad | 12:42 |
| Amarilis | @lordievader && @Peace--: thank you | 12:44 |
| Amarilis | synaptiks solved my problem. i just checked two settings and everything is just working fine | 12:47 |
| lordievader | Amarilis: Good to hear :) | 12:48 |
| Peace-- | Amarilis: did you use system settings or that crap unity ? | 12:48 |
| Peace-- | :D | 12:48 |
| Amarilis | too bad that touchpad management is not included in system settings>input devices | 12:48 |
| Peace-- | Amarilis: there is | 12:49 |
| Peace-- | i have | 12:49 |
| Amarilis | @Peace: i used synatptiks | 12:49 |
| Peace-- | Amarilis: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/18/plasma-desktopiU1995.png | 12:49 |
| Amarilis | which have what i wanted | 12:50 |
| raeg | Hello? Does this work? | 13:01 |
| lordievader | Hey raeg, you are coming in loud and clear :) | 13:02 |
| raeg | Ok, seems to be. I have a question about alsamixer. I would like to use skype. But although my loudspeakers work, my microphone does not. I tried changing the settings in alsamixer, without success. | 13:02 |
| lordievader | raeg: Doesn't Skype go through PulseAudio? Anyhow install pavucontrol and see if your mic is turned down. | 13:03 |
| raeg | Recently it still worked. Then I plugged in a usb-microphone, which worked well, too. But now that I want to use my old standart microphone, which has to be plugged into the microphone-thingy - it does not work anymore. | 13:04 |
| raeg | My ideas was to reset alsa, so I did: "sudo alsa force-reload" and "alsactl init" - which did not work. | 13:05 |
| Peace-- | raeg: sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all ; rec -o test.wav | 13:05 |
| Peace-- | press CTRL C to sto recording | 13:05 |
| Peace-- | then | 13:05 |
| Peace-- | play test.wav | 13:06 |
| Peace-- | raeg: btw there is even kwave that is a recorder | 13:07 |
| raeg | Peace: Do you mean, that I can use the program "kwave" in order to test whether my microphone works? | 13:08 |
| Peace-- | raeg: well i will use konsole with rec -o test.wav | 13:09 |
| Peace-- | that is faster | 13:09 |
| Peace-- | but if you prefer yuu can use kwave | 13:09 |
| raeg | Peace: I installed "sox libsox-fmt-all", now I am suggested I should restart my computer. Is that necessary? | 13:10 |
| Peace-- | raeg: mm no | 13:10 |
| Peace-- | raeg: rec -o test.wav | 13:10 |
| Peace-- | speak a little | 13:10 |
| Peace-- | press CTRL C | 13:11 |
| Peace-- | play test.wav | 13:11 |
| raeg | rec WARN alsa: can't encode 16-bit OKI ADPCM | 13:11 |
| raeg | rec WARN formats: wav can't encode OKI ADPCM | 13:11 |
| raeg | This is the output and there is some more stuff. | 13:11 |
| raeg | Ah - ok. | 13:11 |
| Peace-- | it's ok | 13:11 |
| raeg | Replaying it - but there is no sound. | 13:11 |
| Peace-- | ok can you give me a screenshot of alsamixer -V all ? | 13:12 |
| Peace-- | raeg: should be like this http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/18/plasma-desktopTd1995.png | 13:12 |
| raeg | Peace: http://wstaw.org/w/1CsF/ | 13:18 |
| Peace-- | raeg: reading | 13:18 |
| Peace-- | raeg: wtf your mic is low | 13:19 |
| Peace-- | raeg: put everything to max | 13:19 |
| Peace-- | :) | 13:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world, I'm trying to conpile jovie, but I get a CMake error that it cannot find QtCore. I've installed kdelibs5-dev, is there something more? libqtcore4 is installed. | 13:20 |
| raeg | Peace: That makes no difference. My computer is connected with my radio, so it is actuall not that low, because the sound is emplified. | 13:20 |
| raeg | I am able to listening to music for example. | 13:20 |
| Peace-- | raeg: if you need to solve a problem you need to test | 13:20 |
| Peace-- | if you don't test => you wil not fix | 13:20 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: sudo apt-get install libqtcore4-dev ? | 13:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | Peace--: there is no such package | 13:22 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: wait a moment | 13:22 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: libqt4-dev | 13:23 |
| raeg | Peace: Sure, so what do you want me to do? I turned up both "Mic" to maximum. And tested it again with "rec -o test.wav" and "play test.wav", without success. | 13:23 |
| ovidiu-florin | Peace--: it's allready installed | 13:24 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: ok then wait a moment :D apt-file will help | 13:24 |
| raeg | Peace: Or were you talking about "ExtMic", because that bar can not be changed. | 13:25 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: mm strange apt-file search QtCore says libqt4-dev | 13:27 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: there are others packages btw | 13:28 |
| Peace-- | like this ibqt4-private-dev | 13:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | Peace--: this is my error: http://paste.kde.org/650360/ | 13:28 |
| Peace-- | raeg: did you see the other page (> type right arrow)? | 13:28 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:29 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: mm this is strange i have compiled a lots of stff | 13:30 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: i will suggest to understand those error to install apt-file | 13:30 |
| Peace-- | then you do apt-file update | 13:30 |
| Peace-- | then apt-file search error | 13:30 |
| Peace-- | here it says | 13:30 |
| Peace-- | python-qt4-dev | 13:30 |
| raeg | Peace--: Yes, there is another bar. Raising it did not help. | 13:31 |
| Peace-- | libqt4-private-dev | 13:31 |
| Peace-- | libqt4-dev libqtcore4-perl libqtcore4 | 13:32 |
| Peace-- | ovidiu-florin: and others | 13:32 |
| Peace-- | raeg: mm sound like a bug | 13:33 |
| Peace-- | raeg: btw try to use pavucontrol | 13:34 |
| Peace-- | or remove pulseaudio | 13:34 |
| Peace-- | raeg: if you want remove pulse audio apt-get remove pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio | 13:35 |
| Peace-- | then you can even re-install it | 13:35 |
| raeg | Peace--: These are all bars from alsamixer: http://imagebin.org/243285 and http://imagebin.org/243286 | 13:35 |
| raeg | Peace--: How should I use pavucontrol? I installed and opened it - but I did get how it should help. It is a very confusing program. | 13:36 |
| Peace-- | raeg: i dunno i have used one time btw aufnahme what is that ? | 13:37 |
| Peace-- | i don't knwo german language | 13:37 |
| raeg | Peace--: Can it not become a problem if I remove pulseaudio? | 13:37 |
| raeg | "aufnahme" is "recording" | 13:37 |
| Peace-- | raeg: mm tha should be to max | 13:38 |
| raeg | sure, but which one? and even if I max all of them - it does not help | 13:38 |
| raeg | btw: you already see: all are up | 13:38 |
| Peace-- | raeg: like i said before to understand you need to put them all to max | 13:38 |
| Peace-- | buddy as you want | 13:39 |
| Peace-- | i need to go have luck | 13:39 |
| raeg | fair enough | 13:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | what packages are necessary for KDE development? | 13:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | I am reffering mostly to applications not the workspace | 13:40 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: installing the qt-sdk and kdevelop/qtcreator would be a good start. And looking at http://techbase.kde.org/Development | 14:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | I have those | 14:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've started but I can't compile any project due to this error: http://paste.kde.org/650360/ | 14:07 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: odd, that should be part of libqt4-dev. Is that installed? | 14:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | yes it is | 14:12 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've used cmake-gui and fixed it... not sure how.. but it works now | 14:15 |
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| ovidiu-florin | where are the images/graphics that Kmail uses stored? | 17:10 |
| ovidiu-florin | more specific, I'm looking for the images that are used to mark a email as important or not | 17:13 |
| avihay | somewhere in /usr/share, I guess | 17:15 |
| avihay | you can look at the installed files info of the package in any competent package manager | 17:16 |
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| robtygart | ovidiu-florin: look in /usr/share/icons | 18:35 |
| FlowRiser | ovidiu-florin, also, you might find helpful the command kdialog --get-icon actions | 18:37 |
| FlowRiser | it lists all action items | 18:37 |
| FlowRiser | including send, receive, email, etc | 18:38 |
| FlowRiser | Hey all, i've got a question regarding the kubuntu startup; I've recently installed kubuntu on a netbook, it performs just fine; The problem is the startup time (3-4 minutes), also immediately after showing the desktop it is so slow ... it works fine only after it shows up the warnings (i don't have a contact folder and updates); What can I do ? (I have 1.6 Ghz dual core, 1gb ram, vm.swappinness=10) | 18:40 |
| adil | Hello | 18:40 |
| FlowRiser | adil, yo | 18:40 |
| robtygart | FlowRiser: Do you have your graphic drivers installed | 18:40 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, the graphic driver performs just fine; the problem lies in that slowness i experience prior to getting those popup warnings | 18:41 |
| robtygart | The last time mine was acting really slow, it was to do with my graphic drivers. | 18:41 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, i will investigate that further, you might have a point | 18:42 |
| robtygart | When this happens try and get terminal up and type "top" or "htop" if you have it | 18:42 |
| robtygart | there you can see what the cpu and ram usage is | 18:42 |
| robtygart | then you can get some idea of what app is slowing you down, | 18:43 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, the thing that most slows my system down at the beginning is PlasmaDesktop | 18:44 |
| FlowRiser | 14% cpu | 18:45 |
| robtygart | FlowRiser: give me the out put of | 18:45 |
| robtygart | lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga | 18:45 |
| robtygart | output* | 18:45 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, wait a second, i need to get my other monitor in; I had to take it's lcd display, i needed it on a robot. brb 1 minute | 18:46 |
| robtygart | Another idea could be your desktop effects, if you have everything turned on you could be slowing it down there too. | 18:47 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, i turned everything down, i even installed kubunut-low-fat-settings | 18:48 |
| FlowRiser | rotygart, so now it's booting up into the login screen | 18:52 |
| FlowRiser | it actually takes some time to boot into the kde-greeter | 18:53 |
| FlowRiser | and now, i logged in | 18:54 |
| andybrine | evening everyone | 18:54 |
| robtygart | Is this a lapotp | 18:54 |
| andybrine | can anyone recommend how to reinstall graphics drivers for intel 3000 hd | 18:55 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, i know, i just have high expectations of kubuntu :D | 18:55 |
| andybrine | ? | 18:55 |
| robtygart | FlowRiser: its really peppy in mine and this is a 7 year old laptop | 18:55 |
| robtygart | andybrine: Have you looked in package manager? | 18:56 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, finally to the desktop! :D | 18:56 |
| andybrine | I have the latest intel drivers from the packate manager | 18:56 |
| robtygart | Wowl thats really slow | 18:56 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, exactly O>O | 18:57 |
| andybrine | when i first login, my graphics are very blocky | 18:57 |
| andybrine | and dont know why | 18:57 |
| andybrine | so i was going to install again | 18:57 |
| andybrine | see if it fixes it | 18:57 |
| FlowRiser | andybrine, when you are in the login screen ? | 18:57 |
| robtygart | There is an option in Package manager that you can make for re-installation. | 18:58 |
| andybrine | FlowRiser when i have hit login and its loading, all the graphics are messed up | 18:58 |
| robtygart | mark* | 18:58 |
| FlowRiser | andybrine, check your graphics driver, might be you have vesa or something like that | 18:59 |
| andybrine | what command do you use to check that?] | 18:59 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, i got the output: Vga compatible controller ... Intel N10 ... Kernel driver in use: i915 | 19:00 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, mostly that | 19:00 |
| robtygart | That looks fine. | 19:01 |
| robtygart | My problems where coming from Nvida! | 19:01 |
| robtygart | Nvidia* | 19:02 |
| andybrine | there is a libva-intel-vaapi-driver, is that the one that needs installing? | 19:02 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, oh god! :D I always remember when Linus Torvald said: "Nvidia f*** you!" | 19:02 |
| robtygart | lol | 19:02 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, there's even a remix on youtube | 19:02 |
| robtygart | I don't think I seen the first vid, I only read the aretical | 19:03 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, WATCH IT! | 19:03 |
| FlowRiser | and enjoy ;) | 19:03 |
| robtygart | andybrine: could you also give me the output if this lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga | 19:03 |
| robtygart | lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga | 19:04 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, my system is faster than it was this morning, odly :| | 19:04 |
| robtygart | Have you ran any updaes? | 19:04 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, let me check | 19:05 |
| andybrine | robtygart, i have just messaged you the output | 19:05 |
| robtygart | run | 19:05 |
| robtygart | sudo apt-get update | 19:05 |
| robtygart | Then | 19:05 |
| robtygart | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:05 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, to be honest i'd rather stay at 12.04, what does dist-upgrade do ? | 19:06 |
| robtygart | type | 19:07 |
| robtygart | man apt-get | 19:07 |
| robtygart | I am not on Kubuntu at the moment, it can explain it better | 19:07 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, thanks man :D | 19:07 |
| robtygart | it does the same thing as | 19:08 |
| robtygart | sudo apt-get upgrade, but it will do the most important package first.. Thats how "snowhog" told me thas how I should do it.. LOL | 19:08 |
| robtygart | he is around here somewhere I am sure | 19:08 |
| FlowRiser | robtygart, hehe, in linux there are allot of ways to do things :D | 19:09 |
| Unit193 | robtygart: Not quite, upgrade will only update installed programs, dist-upgrade will also install programs if doing so is required when upgrading a package. Like linux-image-generic when there is a new kernel out. | 19:09 |
| robtygart | Ok, I get it. | 19:10 |
| FlowRiser | I don't think this will solve my slow startup times, though | 19:11 |
| FlowRiser | swap memory, swappinness, can they influence my startup times with kubuntu ? | 19:13 |
| robtygart | I don't know. | 19:16 |
| BluesKaj | FlowRiser, nepomuk and akonadi can | 19:17 |
| BluesKaj | if they're enabled | 19:17 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, ok, i'll disable them after the update | 19:23 |
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| BluesKaj | FlowRiser, also if you init scripts running at high run level | 19:24 |
| BluesKaj | have | 19:24 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, how do i check those ? | 19:25 |
| BluesKaj | they're usually self made scrpits to start particular functions , not default stuff | 19:25 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, it's a fresh install, didn't really had time to "fiddle" >:) | 19:26 |
| BluesKaj | ok , FlowRiser ..what kind of boot times are you expecting ? | 19:26 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, i'm not talking about boot times, just startup times; Cause Unity+compiz performs much better than Kde | 19:28 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, example: from the login screen to kde it took 3-4 minutes! from the login screen to Unity+compiz 10 seconds | 19:28 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, odd , never noticed that unity was faster then kde | 19:28 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, you'd be surprised O.o | 19:29 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, but i need kde to work in | 19:29 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, so you can imagine my frustration when i have to wait 3 minutes just to get to the desktop | 19:29 |
| BluesKaj | FlowRiser, well you must have some other problem ..kde loads very quickly here , probly less tah 5-10 secs after login | 19:30 |
| FlowRiser | BluesKaj, on my pc too, it takes 3-5 secdonds O.o | 19:30 |
| FlowRiser | i'll try again after update and reboot | 19:31 |
| FlowRiser | time it properly | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 19:31 |
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| apologeticnoob | Hi | 19:57 |
| apologeticnoob | I have a small issue that i could use some fresh eyes on | 19:57 |
| apologeticnoob | when i boot into kubuntu i get an error msg that says "Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directory is full?) check your installation. This is just a popup i can click okay to and then i can log in with no problems. | 19:57 |
| apologeticnoob | something about kdeinit chrashes or something | 19:58 |
| apologeticnoob | 12.04 | 19:58 |
| apologeticnoob | does anyone else have this or a fix to this? | 19:59 |
| BluesKaj | apologeticnoob , have you updated and upgraded lately ? | 20:01 |
| apologeticnoob | yes | 20:02 |
| apologeticnoob | http://pastebin.com/Rn3sE8va | 20:02 |
| apologeticnoob | installed a few days ago | 20:02 |
| apologeticnoob | it is an old laptop, but everything works smoothly so i doubt it is an hardware issue | 20:03 |
| apologeticnoob | is kdm the right log to be reviewing? | 20:04 |
| apologeticnoob | I was not sure about that... | 20:04 |
| apologeticnoob | does this makes sense to you? | 20:07 |
| BluesKaj | looks like your xserver-xorg file is bit out of spec , but X server obviously recovers , and it's not serious , as long as yopu don't have any video or display problems | 20:08 |
| apologeticnoob | well i dont, but the boot delay is annoying | 20:08 |
| BluesKaj | Intel graphics ? | 20:08 |
| apologeticnoob | yea | 20:08 |
| apologeticnoob | gma 450 i think | 20:09 |
| apologeticnoob | should i be able to reinstall xserver without fucking everything up? | 20:10 |
| IdleOne | you should be able to ask without swearing | 20:11 |
| BluesKaj | you could try blanking the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and rebooting , unless of course you configured the file manually for other devices | 20:11 |
| apologeticnoob | how was that a swear? | 20:11 |
| apologeticnoob | ill try that | 20:12 |
| IdleOne | apologeticnoob: cursing is not allowed in *buntu channels | 20:12 |
| BluesKaj | we don't approve of the "f" word and othe curses | 20:12 |
| apologeticnoob | oh. I am truly sorry | 20:12 |
| invariant | When I resize a window under particular , X crashes. How can I modify the way kdm starts X? | 20:13 |
| invariant | s/under particular/under particular conditions | 20:14 |
| apologeticnoob | http://pastebin.com/LEZP32aQ | 20:15 |
| apologeticnoob | should it be there? | 20:15 |
| apologeticnoob | there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 20:19 |
| apologeticnoob | should it be there? | 20:19 |
| BluesKaj | apologeticnoob, in some cases it's needed , and some not , the default is not ..if want to create xorg.conf (which can;t hurt) , do , sudo Xorg -configure | 20:22 |
| apologeticnoob | Fatal server error: | 20:23 |
| apologeticnoob | Server is already active for display 0 | 20:23 |
| BluesKaj | invariant, Kwin is the kde window manager , kdm is the login page display | 20:23 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, please just answer the question. | 20:24 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, I don't ask questions for nothing. | 20:24 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, if you don't know the answer, that's also ok. | 20:24 |
| invariant | In that case, just don't say anything. | 20:24 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, I am interested in passing -core to X somewhere. | 20:25 |
| BluesKaj | invariant, you're assuming by your question that kdm is at fault , kwin and the window theme you have chosen might be buggy ..and if you continue your rude attitude then I won't bother you any longer | 20:26 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, no, you are assuming I am stupid. | 20:26 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, I already know what crashes. | 20:26 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, you are not helping. | 20:26 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, and I didn't say kdm is at fault. | 20:27 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, please try to _read_. | 20:27 |
| invariant | BluesKaj, your attitude is rude, because I am trying to fix the broken system the rest of the world has created and you are interfering in this process. You are supposed to be helping me. | 20:27 |
| BluesKaj | invariant, you're on ignore , don't waste your energy on me | 20:28 |
| invariant | Man, how hard can it be to just answer the question that is asked? | 20:28 |
| invariant | Yeah, that's a wonderful way to solve a problem. Ignoring it... | 20:28 |
| apologeticnoob | blueskaj, is it safe to stop Xorg and how do i do so? | 20:32 |
| apologeticnoob | or should i just "sudo Xorg -quiet" and the popup will go away? | 20:33 |
| apologeticnoob | treating the syntoms so to speak | 20:33 |
| BluesKaj | apologeticnoob, you can drop to a TTY , ALT+CTRL+F1 , then login and do sudo service lightdm (or kdm ) stop , the run your commands and then sudo service lightdm start | 20:35 |
| BluesKaj | !tty | apologeticnoob | 20:36 |
| ubottu | apologeticnoob: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution | 20:36 |
| BluesKaj | tty is avery habdy method to configure and install apps that require X to be out of the loop | 20:37 |
| BluesKaj | err handy | 20:37 |
| franz__ | guten abend ihr lieben | 20:48 |
| BluesKaj | !de | franz__ | 20:49 |
| ubottu | franz__: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 20:49 |
| franz__ | und wo finde ich den | 20:49 |
| BluesKaj | franz__, this channel is English only | 20:51 |
| franz__ | ok | 20:51 |
| musca | franz__: einfach anklicken | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: heh, I didn't realize alt-ctrl-f1 also worked | 21:00 |
| shadeslayer | I always did a ctrl-alt-f1 | 21:00 |
| BluesKaj | yeah alta+ctrl+f1 to f6 | 21:01 |
| BluesKaj | or ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 :) | 21:02 |
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