=== len is now known as Guest94023 [00:05] Hello? [00:06] Hello calavera [00:06] Hello. [00:06] Would you be able to help me with my problem? [00:07] may be [00:10] Well, I'm having trouble where GRUB can't see my NTFS drive [00:10] When it tries to boot, it gives me an invalid file path error. [00:10] well, uefi systems use a GUID partition table [00:10] What does that mean? [00:11] only systems booted in uefi mode see the existing partitions [00:12] systems booted in BIOS mode see a MBR with an entry that claims the full capacity (no free space left) [00:13] a fake MBR that is [00:14] if your existing Win7 is an uefi system you will have to boot your linux install media in uefi mode [00:17] your media must contain some special efi files [00:22] So are you saying that I should just reinstall *buntu? [00:23] i dunno what your problem is, what you did before, what you want to do, and so on [00:24] I have two hard drives in my laptop with W7 as my primary. [00:24] I want to dual boot across both of them using GRUB, if possible. [00:24] The UEFI system is making that hard. [00:25] Every time that I want to boot into Windows, GRUB tells me that there is an invalid file path. [00:26] this is quite new stuff for me and i don't know if there is a workaround [00:27] How do you boot your windows now? [00:29] perhaps you can create an entry for grub in your windows boot manager [00:29] I am booting Windows using the MBR. I eventually got tired of messing with it, and I just let MBR overwrite GRUB, and then I just let GNU/ Linux just sit on there. [00:32] hmm, did you try to find some howto on the inet? [00:32] http://askubuntu.com/questions/193144/dual-boot-uefi-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-both-64-bits-w7-entry-doesnt-appea [00:59] sorry about that - I completely forgot to come back here after I rebooted :P I guess old age is catching up with me! [00:59] Right - I disabled the desktop items, turned off Folder view and did everything humanly possible to knobble kio_thumbnail, but it came back when I rebooted. [01:00] Looks like FlowRiser has left - yofel, any other ideas? [01:01] I tried strace against the process when I could get into a terminal, and it just sat there. Did nothing even while kio_thumbnail was slowing my kit down to practically 0% usage [01:01] *usage/usability [01:02] What printer do I use with Ubuntu??? [01:03] !printers [01:03] Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu [01:03] OK, CUPS I'll use but with what printer??? [01:04] there should be a list in there of all those compatible with cups, dabauer [01:04] OK, let me go look [01:04] if you read the page about Hardware Support Components that should be it [01:19] dabauer: printer support is pretty good at this point; most drivers are 95%+ complete, and just lack the features that otherwise require manufacturer apps to use. [01:32] just bought a printer from thinkpenguin, an HP printer, should work OK. [02:08] hi, one question, i'm on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and every time i start my computer i get an crash error regarding lsb_release. I saw the bug track but they don't say enithing about a solution for this bug. any idea if is posible to solve it and how? [02:09] juacom99, Hi. Do you have the link to the bug please? [02:10] as an aside, by the way, Kubuntu 12.04 is not LTS. Only Ubuntu (the Unity ubuntu) has the LTS title :P{ [02:10] sorry, i'm just a stickler for accuracy :p [02:11] I certainly know there's no bug as far as I am aware in 12.10 - i've been on it since it came out and never seen one. Come to think of it, i never saw one on 12.04 either [02:11] BarkingFish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1094218 [02:11] Ubuntu bug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] [02:11] TheLordOfTime, I'm sorry, you're wrong. [02:11] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release [02:12] BarkingFish, really? I was told differently by the release team [02:12] and the dev team [02:12] if you're a stickler for accuracy, please ensure you're accurate [02:12] hell even been called out here about it too [02:12] nope [02:13] it seeams is a pyton script calling lsb_release [02:13] that crash [02:13] yeah - it was only reported a week or two back, juacom99 [02:13] * TheLordOfTime shrugs [02:13] it might take a while to figure out how to resolve it [02:14] ok thanks [02:14] in the mean time, as I say - you have the option of upgrading to 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) [02:14] BarkingFish, when i hear someone on the core dev team tell me this (and by core i mean the team that devs the things all flavors are dependent on), i'll believe you, until then, you and i can argue. [02:14] and I know there's no errors in that [02:14] TheLordOfTime, when it's on Kubuntu's own website, it isn't wrong. [02:14] i'm here actyually to figure out what the KDE runtime package is, so i can install KDE without all the Kubuntu applications [02:14] It wouldn't get pulished otherwise [02:15] *published [02:15] BarkingFish: is really mature 12.10 at this point? [02:15] juacom99, it's quite mature, yes - we go to 13.04 in 3 months time [02:16] ok i may make an upgrade then [02:18] juacom99, i'd do that - we're only 3 months away from Raring Racoon coming out, but 12.10 is clean at the moment. [02:19] i Have rekonq 1.1 version...how can i update it to the latest stable version or latest developing version? [02:19] rishubh, which version of Kubuntu are you using? [02:20] BarkingFish: so you say i should wait till 13.04? [02:20] *Raring Ringtail, sorry [02:20] i have raccoons on the brain :) [02:20] No, 12.10 is ok , juacom99 [02:21] it just means if you upgrade now, to get past this error - you will need to upgrade again in about 3 months [02:23] BarkingFish: can you refresh my memory on the command to upgrade version?? [02:24] in a terminal, do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:27] incidentally, is there anyone here who can tell me why kubuntu has rpm software when we don't use rpms? [02:32] kubuntu don't have rpm software itself, it has a tool to comvert rpm to deb (alien) and then install it in kubuntu.. [02:34] ah - i just saw something install called rpm2cpio, and there's other rpm building tools and stuff in here too :) [02:34] anyhoo, i gotta reboot, back in a tick [02:46] juacom99, wajig converts rpms too! [02:47] tekkbuzz: neve heard of wajig.... [02:47] juacom99, it's in the repos. [02:51] wajig - simple and unified package management for Debian [02:53] i'm also trying to figure out how to upgrade to raring ringtail so i can go bug hunting on it [02:54] anyone got any ideas? I know I have to add something or do something somewhere, but I can't remember what or how [02:54] BarkingFish: do-release-upgrade -d [02:55] aha, thanks :) [02:57] anyone have any idea on how to backup a partition before make an update? [02:57] dd but how [03:00] dd if=/dev/sda1 of=sda1.img ??? [03:02] i don't have to tell the dd the length of the partition or where it start? [03:02] nope [03:03] morning DarthFrog - thought i'd let you know. not sure what is up, but do-release-upgrade is busted [03:03] http://pastebin.com/C69uLeEN [03:03] Lovely. [03:03] BarkingFish: 12.10 [03:03] make sure you pick the right partition you want though. [03:04] i got 2 disks with 3 partition each one it gonna be a hard call :P [03:04] but i think i know witch is the right one [03:05] cat /proc/partitions [03:05] rishubh, if you put through updates on kubuntu, whatever you have now is the stable version. [03:05] sorry but i didnt get u [03:06] do i already have all updated version? [03:06] yes [03:06] when you do updates you get the latest version available [03:06] but my rekonq is 1.1 version [03:06] and thats not latest [03:07] actually, it's the latest one we have [03:07] open up a terminal and type: apt-cache policy rekonq [03:07] you will see this: Candidate: 1.1-0ubuntu1 [03:08] we may have a proposed version somewhere, but that's the latest stable one we issue [03:08] ok.... [03:08] but kde has got better ones [03:08] i mean more updated [03:09] if you want a proposed version, i will tell you how to add the proposed updates to kubuntu [03:09] ya sure [03:10] what exactly is a proposed version? [03:11] it's one we're in the process of getting ready, but which hasn't been generally released [03:11] it's intended pretty much for bug testing :) [03:12] open a terminal, and type: kdesudo software-properties-kde [03:12] ya and i am doing bug testing.. [03:13] when it opens, click the updates tab [03:13] done [03:13] and tick pre-released updates and (if you're adventurous) unsupported updates [03:14] ticked both of them [03:14] when you've done this, click close and you'll be told you need to update your sources [03:14] click reload and wait [03:15] anyone know how kubuntu interacts with xorg.conf, I know it don't need it, but could I write kubuntus config to it somehow then edit it to my liking? [03:15] wheres reload button its only reset and close [03:16] rishubh - you should see a box telling you your sources are out of date [03:16] the two buttons underneath should be reload and close if you're running in english - how they're worded in other languages, i don't know - it depends on how your system is localized [03:17] BarkingFish: there are two buttons one is reset and close...thats it [03:17] click close [03:18] BarkingFish: ok...now it says do you want to reload.. [03:18] so i clicked it [03:18] ah, you missed a step in what i wrote above then :) [03:18] " when you've done this, click close and you'll be told you need to update your sources" [03:19] ya sorry i missed it [03:19] in a few moments, it will finish and you will most likely get a symbol on your system bar - a cogwheel with a down arrow in it. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:19] you will have updates to put through :) [03:19] i have it here, right now :) [03:20] anyone know where kde's x settings are stored at? [03:21] by the way..i am dowloading software updates from software update...will that help? [03:21] i don't really think it matters, rishubh - i use apper. Some people use muon, others use aptitude. Whatever works is good :) [03:23] BarkingFish: after all that what you said kubuntu opened software update and i ticked all the updates and clicked on install updatess..i hope i am goin right [03:24] yep. You're installing what you asked for - proposed updates, and the adventurous stuff [03:24] if you ticked it, you're getting it [03:24] BarkingFish: I use apt-get. :-) [03:24] As I said. Whatever works is good :) [03:25] i think it will take some time...thankyou for helping..after it gets innstalled i will get back to you in case i have any problem..thanks [03:25] ok, rishubh - i may not be here, since it's late where I am - 4.25 in the morning. [03:25] other people will be here though, so if you don't get an answer straight away, hold on - someone will be around [03:25] ok...thanks [03:26] no problem [03:26] right guys, good night - I'm outta here to get to bed on a very chilly Munich night. Gn8 :D [03:40] Does anyone know how to stream pulse audio from one system to another? === pete_ is now known as Guest37610 [05:30] How to update KUBUNTU from 10.10 to 12.10??...Can i update using command line...? [05:30] Does kubuntu 12.10 works in a 32 bit Windows 7 system in virtual box [05:30] ? [05:40] 翻出去了 [05:40] 蛋疼 [05:40] 我要去上课了 [06:50] Can anyone tell me why, when I open a Window Like Dolphin it always opens behind the window I have open [06:55] robtygart: how's your window settings? [06:56] What do you mean? [06:57] Tm_T: What do you mean? [07:03] robtygart: you can configure focus stealing prevention [07:03] or how windows are placed when opened [07:05] Tm_T: focus stealing pervention. Yes I can [07:07] Tm_T: OK I got it fix. Thank you very much!!!! [07:08] no prob [07:08] robtygart: you had focus stealing prevention set to max? [07:09] Just about.. High, its set to low now. [07:09] What does Focus stealing mean anyway? [07:10] Odd name, I would not have guessed. [07:12] robtygart: focus stealing is when focus is taken by new window or dialog [07:13] robtygart: something that is not always desired, for example if you're writing a password to some text field and then chat window pops up taking the focus... [07:13] Ok, thanks, I learned something new. [07:14] Good idea. [07:15] What level do you suggest? [07:45] Hello === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [09:23] Good morning === kubuntu is now known as Guest1415 [10:09] hi all [10:09] Hey denis_ [10:09] I am from Russia === FabianB is now known as Guest25508 [10:10] I am setup Kubuntu :) [10:15] denis_: Nice, liking it so far? Btw there is a russian chat room. [10:15] !russian [10:15] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [10:15] ok. I find russian chat room [10:34] has the catalyst driver bug been fixed with the new release? [10:34] or should i stick to the open drivers [10:59] Hello === pete_ is now known as Guest97914 === andrew is now known as Guest28966 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === pete_ is now known as Guest82993 [12:33] how can i disable touchpad? [12:33] Amarilis: There is probably a better way, however there is a Unity Indicator that can do exactly that. [12:34] Amarilis: http://shuffleos.com/2753/touchpad-indicator-enable-disable-touchpad-ubuntu-panel/ [12:34] lordievader: i'm using kubuntu [12:35] Amarilis: I know, but this is a way that will work. Even in Kubuntu, I have used it in the past under Kubuntu. [12:36] ooohh, i see === sem_ is now known as Peace-- [12:41] Amarilis: there is kcm module for that [12:42] Amarilis: system settings device =>touchpad [12:44] @lordievader && @Peace--: thank you [12:47] synaptiks solved my problem. i just checked two settings and everything is just working fine [12:48] Amarilis: Good to hear :) [12:48] Amarilis: did you use system settings or that crap unity ? [12:48] :D [12:48] too bad that touchpad management is not included in system settings>input devices [12:49] Amarilis: there is [12:49] i have [12:49] @Peace: i used synatptiks [12:49] Amarilis: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/18/plasma-desktopiU1995.png [12:50] which have what i wanted [13:01] Hello? Does this work? [13:02] Hey raeg, you are coming in loud and clear :) [13:02] Ok, seems to be. I have a question about alsamixer. I would like to use skype. But although my loudspeakers work, my microphone does not. I tried changing the settings in alsamixer, without success. [13:03] raeg: Doesn't Skype go through PulseAudio? Anyhow install pavucontrol and see if your mic is turned down. [13:04] Recently it still worked. Then I plugged in a usb-microphone, which worked well, too. But now that I want to use my old standart microphone, which has to be plugged into the microphone-thingy - it does not work anymore. [13:05] My ideas was to reset alsa, so I did: "sudo alsa force-reload" and "alsactl init" - which did not work. [13:05] raeg: sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all ; rec -o test.wav [13:05] press CTRL C to sto recording [13:05] then [13:06] play test.wav [13:07] raeg: btw there is even kwave that is a recorder [13:08] Peace: Do you mean, that I can use the program "kwave" in order to test whether my microphone works? [13:09] raeg: well i will use konsole with rec -o test.wav [13:09] that is faster [13:09] but if you prefer yuu can use kwave [13:10] Peace: I installed "sox libsox-fmt-all", now I am suggested I should restart my computer. Is that necessary? [13:10] raeg: mm no [13:10] raeg: rec -o test.wav [13:10] speak a little [13:11] press CTRL C [13:11] play test.wav [13:11] rec WARN alsa: can't encode 16-bit OKI ADPCM [13:11] rec WARN formats: wav can't encode OKI ADPCM [13:11] This is the output and there is some more stuff. [13:11] Ah - ok. [13:11] it's ok [13:11] Replaying it - but there is no sound. [13:12] ok can you give me a screenshot of alsamixer -V all ? [13:12] raeg: should be like this http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/18/plasma-desktopTd1995.png [13:18] Peace: http://wstaw.org/w/1CsF/ [13:18] raeg: reading [13:19] raeg: wtf your mic is low [13:19] raeg: put everything to max [13:19] :) [13:20] hello world, I'm trying to conpile jovie, but I get a CMake error that it cannot find QtCore. I've installed kdelibs5-dev, is there something more? libqtcore4 is installed. [13:20] Peace: That makes no difference. My computer is connected with my radio, so it is actuall not that low, because the sound is emplified. [13:20] I am able to listening to music for example. [13:20] raeg: if you need to solve a problem you need to test [13:20] if you don't test => you wil not fix [13:21] ovidiu-florin: sudo apt-get install libqtcore4-dev ? [13:22] Peace--: there is no such package [13:22] ovidiu-florin: wait a moment [13:23] ovidiu-florin: libqt4-dev [13:23] Peace: Sure, so what do you want me to do? I turned up both "Mic" to maximum. And tested it again with "rec -o test.wav" and "play test.wav", without success. [13:24] Peace--: it's allready installed [13:24] ovidiu-florin: ok then wait a moment :D apt-file will help [13:25] Peace: Or were you talking about "ExtMic", because that bar can not be changed. [13:27] ovidiu-florin: mm strange apt-file search QtCore says libqt4-dev [13:28] ovidiu-florin: there are others packages btw [13:28] like this ibqt4-private-dev [13:28] Peace--: this is my error: http://paste.kde.org/650360/ [13:28] raeg: did you see the other page (> type right arrow)? [13:29] Hey all [13:30] ovidiu-florin: mm this is strange i have compiled a lots of stff [13:30] ovidiu-florin: i will suggest to understand those error to install apt-file [13:30] then you do apt-file update [13:30] then apt-file search error [13:30] here it says [13:30] python-qt4-dev [13:31] Peace--: Yes, there is another bar. Raising it did not help. [13:31] libqt4-private-dev [13:32] libqt4-dev libqtcore4-perl libqtcore4 [13:32] ovidiu-florin: and others [13:33] raeg: mm sound like a bug [13:34] raeg: btw try to use pavucontrol [13:34] or remove pulseaudio [13:35] raeg: if you want remove pulse audio apt-get remove pulseaudio-utils pulseaudio [13:35] then you can even re-install it [13:35] Peace--: These are all bars from alsamixer: http://imagebin.org/243285 and http://imagebin.org/243286 [13:36] Peace--: How should I use pavucontrol? I installed and opened it - but I did get how it should help. It is a very confusing program. [13:37] raeg: i dunno i have used one time btw aufnahme what is that ? [13:37] i don't knwo german language [13:37] Peace--: Can it not become a problem if I remove pulseaudio? [13:37] "aufnahme" is "recording" [13:38] raeg: mm tha should be to max [13:38] sure, but which one? and even if I max all of them - it does not help [13:38] btw: you already see: all are up [13:38] raeg: like i said before to understand you need to put them all to max [13:39] buddy as you want [13:39] i need to go have luck [13:39] fair enough [13:39] what packages are necessary for KDE development? [13:40] I am reffering mostly to applications not the workspace [14:06] ovidiu-florin: installing the qt-sdk and kdevelop/qtcreator would be a good start. And looking at http://techbase.kde.org/Development [14:06] I have those [14:07] I've started but I can't compile any project due to this error: http://paste.kde.org/650360/ [14:11] ovidiu-florin: odd, that should be part of libqt4-dev. Is that installed? [14:12] yes it is [14:15] I've used cmake-gui and fixed it... not sure how.. but it works now === bpslinux is now known as crystalcode === gio is now known as Guest87830 === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk === delta_ is now known as Delta_troN [16:34] !!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:37] ################################################################################## === dniMretsaM_away is now known as dniMretsaM [17:10] where are the images/graphics that Kmail uses stored? [17:13] more specific, I'm looking for the images that are used to mark a email as important or not [17:15] somewhere in /usr/share, I guess [17:16] you can look at the installed files info of the package in any competent package manager === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [18:35] ovidiu-florin: look in /usr/share/icons [18:37] ovidiu-florin, also, you might find helpful the command kdialog --get-icon actions [18:37] it lists all action items [18:38] including send, receive, email, etc [18:40] Hey all, i've got a question regarding the kubuntu startup; I've recently installed kubuntu on a netbook, it performs just fine; The problem is the startup time (3-4 minutes), also immediately after showing the desktop it is so slow ... it works fine only after it shows up the warnings (i don't have a contact folder and updates); What can I do ? (I have 1.6 Ghz dual core, 1gb ram, vm.swappinness=10) [18:40] Hello [18:40] adil, yo [18:40] FlowRiser: Do you have your graphic drivers installed [18:41] robtygart, the graphic driver performs just fine; the problem lies in that slowness i experience prior to getting those popup warnings [18:41] The last time mine was acting really slow, it was to do with my graphic drivers. [18:42] robtygart, i will investigate that further, you might have a point [18:42] When this happens try and get terminal up and type "top" or "htop" if you have it [18:42] there you can see what the cpu and ram usage is [18:43] then you can get some idea of what app is slowing you down, [18:44] robtygart, the thing that most slows my system down at the beginning is PlasmaDesktop [18:45] 14% cpu [18:45] FlowRiser: give me the out put of [18:45] lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga [18:45] output* [18:46] robtygart, wait a second, i need to get my other monitor in; I had to take it's lcd display, i needed it on a robot. brb 1 minute [18:47] Another idea could be your desktop effects, if you have everything turned on you could be slowing it down there too. [18:48] robtygart, i turned everything down, i even installed kubunut-low-fat-settings [18:52] rotygart, so now it's booting up into the login screen [18:53] it actually takes some time to boot into the kde-greeter [18:54] and now, i logged in [18:54] evening everyone [18:54] Is this a lapotp [18:55] can anyone recommend how to reinstall graphics drivers for intel 3000 hd [18:55] robtygart, i know, i just have high expectations of kubuntu :D [18:55] ? [18:55] FlowRiser: its really peppy in mine and this is a 7 year old laptop [18:56] andybrine: Have you looked in package manager? [18:56] robtygart, finally to the desktop! :D [18:56] I have the latest intel drivers from the packate manager [18:56] Wowl thats really slow [18:57] robtygart, exactly O>O [18:57] when i first login, my graphics are very blocky [18:57] and dont know why [18:57] so i was going to install again [18:57] see if it fixes it [18:57] andybrine, when you are in the login screen ? [18:58] There is an option in Package manager that you can make for re-installation. [18:58] FlowRiser when i have hit login and its loading, all the graphics are messed up [18:58] mark* [18:59] andybrine, check your graphics driver, might be you have vesa or something like that [18:59] what command do you use to check that?] [19:00] robtygart, i got the output: Vga compatible controller ... Intel N10 ... Kernel driver in use: i915 [19:00] robtygart, mostly that [19:01] That looks fine. [19:01] My problems where coming from Nvida! [19:02] Nvidia* [19:02] there is a libva-intel-vaapi-driver, is that the one that needs installing? [19:02] robtygart, oh god! :D I always remember when Linus Torvald said: "Nvidia f*** you!" [19:02] lol [19:02] robtygart, there's even a remix on youtube [19:03] I don't think I seen the first vid, I only read the aretical [19:03] robtygart, WATCH IT! [19:03] and enjoy ;) [19:03] andybrine: could you also give me the output if this lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga [19:04] lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga [19:04] robtygart, my system is faster than it was this morning, odly :| [19:04] Have you ran any updaes? [19:05] robtygart, let me check [19:05] robtygart, i have just messaged you the output [19:05] run [19:05] sudo apt-get update [19:05] Then [19:05] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [19:06] robtygart, to be honest i'd rather stay at 12.04, what does dist-upgrade do ? [19:07] type [19:07] man apt-get [19:07] I am not on Kubuntu at the moment, it can explain it better [19:07] robtygart, thanks man :D [19:08] it does the same thing as [19:08] sudo apt-get upgrade, but it will do the most important package first.. Thats how "snowhog" told me thas how I should do it.. LOL [19:08] he is around here somewhere I am sure [19:09] robtygart, hehe, in linux there are allot of ways to do things :D [19:09] robtygart: Not quite, upgrade will only update installed programs, dist-upgrade will also install programs if doing so is required when upgrading a package. Like linux-image-generic when there is a new kernel out. [19:10] Ok, I get it. [19:11] I don't think this will solve my slow startup times, though [19:13] swap memory, swappinness, can they influence my startup times with kubuntu ? [19:16] I don't know. [19:17] FlowRiser, nepomuk and akonadi can [19:17] if they're enabled [19:23] BluesKaj, ok, i'll disable them after the update === paolo is now known as faLUCE [19:24] FlowRiser, also if you init scripts running at high run level [19:24] have [19:25] BluesKaj, how do i check those ? [19:25]