| bdmurray | bug 1101027 could use some verifying | 01:07 |
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| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1101027 in asunder (Ubuntu) "most people use 192 but asunder users can't" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1101027 | 01:07 |
| antarus | ok so now I need the bash maintainer.. | 01:30 |
| antarus | doko or steve eh | 01:31 |
| antarus | hrm these sponsorship instructions look old :/ | 01:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | antarus, what're you trying to do, if I may ask? | 01:32 |
| antarus | https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/bash/+bug/778627 | 01:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 778627 in bash (Ubuntu) "In natty, bash completion now quotes shell variable references rather than expanding them" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:35 |
| antarus | I uploaded a debdiff to fix that bug | 01:35 |
| antarus | I'm looking for a sponsor to upload it to proposed, and then nominate for SRU | 01:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | subscribe ubuntu-sponsors and the sru team, but first, can you tell me which versions are actually affected? | 01:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | i.e. precise, oneiric,... | 01:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | i can see in the bug it says quantal/raring unaffected | 01:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... oh that reminds me i need to ping the release team about an SRU... :p | 01:37 |
| antarus | the users on the bug reported the breakage first in natty | 01:37 |
| antarus | and it was still broken in P | 01:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | antarus, natty's EOL | 01:37 |
| antarus | so I assume N, O, P | 01:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | i was asking about what releases you have personally seen it in. | 01:37 |
| antarus | oh | 01:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | i.e. | 01:37 |
| antarus | I only run LTS | 01:37 |
| antarus | so just P | 01:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | did you confirm oneiric is affected? and that precise is affected? | 01:37 |
| antarus | I can definately confirm Precise is affected | 01:38 |
| antarus | I have no O machines | 01:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | OK i'm going to nominate that bug for P, but i'd like to see whether O is also impacted because if so it'll need an SRU for O too | 01:38 |
| antarus | but I can download its bash and reproduce | 01:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | although in april we can ignore it :P | 01:38 |
| antarus | heh | 01:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | s/in/after/ | 01:38 |
| antarus | Yeah we are quickly getting everyone off of lucid before it falls off of a cliff ;) | 01:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | s/lucid/oneiric/ | 01:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | last i checked lucid is also an LTS | 01:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | and doesn't die yet | 01:40 |
| antarus | it dies soon ;) | 01:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | desktop dies, but not server :P | 01:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | desktop is in april, server's 2015 | 01:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 01:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | :) | 01:40 |
| antarus | I only care about desktop ;) | 01:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | ANYWAYS | 01:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | i've nominated the bug for Precise, but i've also commented saying i'd like to see if its seen in Oneiric too | 01:41 |
| antarus | yes, let me check O's bash | 01:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | antarus, i'll be kind and help you out in subscribing sponsors and the SRU team, but in future, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure is useful. :) | 01:42 |
| epikvision | Hey TheLordOfTime! | 01:43 |
| TheLordOfTime | but first, i have to kill this windows server that's being stupid | 01:43 |
| * TheLordOfTime waves to epikvision | 01:44 | |
| epikvision | seems we're getting a lot done so far. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20130117 | 01:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | bleh i've only been around for about 30 minutes | 01:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | given i had other obligations today :P | 01:44 |
| antarus | TheLordOfTime: Yeah I'm still trying to get the hang of this process ;) | 01:44 |
| antarus | I appreciate the help | 01:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | antarus, no problem :) | 01:44 |
| antarus | I have about a dozen more of these to do ;) | 01:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'll subscribe sponsors and SRU for you, fi you want send me the other bugs as well with details of releases affected | 01:45 |
| antarus | most of them will require more work on my part yet | 01:45 |
| * antarus doesn't have the backports done | 01:46 | |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 01:46 |
| antarus | or patches, or debdiffs, or whathaveyou | 01:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | antarus, i subscribed sponsors and sru to that bug | 01:46 |
| antarus | thanks | 01:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | (but also, the link i gave you explainsi which iteams you subscribe) | 01:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | EVIL KEY! *points to the random 'i' charactersi showing iup.* | 01:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | hiya jbicha! | 01:48 |
| antarus | I guess bug 1099987 is easy, but I think it is also broken in debian. | 01:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1099987 in bash (Ubuntu) "/etc/skel/.profile does not detect bash properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099987 | 01:50 |
| antarus | it looks like doko maintains bash in both though? | 01:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | is the bug filed in Debian yet? | 01:52 |
| antarus | no, I will do that | 01:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | i meant, did you see if someone else filed the bug in debian yet. | 01:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | actually, strike that, i'll just go check | 01:52 |
| * TheLordOfTime pulls up bugs.d.o | 01:52 | |
| antarus | we searched | 01:52 |
| antarus | didn't find anything | 01:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | meh its alright, this gives me the chance to test my search script :P | 01:53 |
| antarus | its not strictly clear if it is bug | 01:53 |
| antarus | or just WAI | 01:53 |
| antarus | in which case I'll just patch it internally | 01:53 |
| antarus | The main problem is that lightdm-session runs in posix mode, but sources $HOME/.profile. $BASH_VERSION is *set* in posix mode, so posix-only bash ends up sourcing ~/.bashrc | 01:54 |
| antarus | and dies when ~/.bashrc contains bashisms | 01:54 |
| antarus | (and then lightdm restarts) | 01:55 |
| antarus | its awesome | 01:55 |
| antarus | (ly bad) | 01:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | okay, interesting question. and i apologize, my specialization is in server packages, but wouldn't this then be a conflict between lightdm-session and bash? | 01:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | and not necessarily a bash bug? | 01:56 |
| antarus | Sorry, Conflict being like a package conflict? | 01:56 |
| antarus | Its not a bug in bash the shell; but the bash package ships /etc/skel/.profile | 01:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | ah okay, that's what i missed | 01:56 |
| * TheLordOfTime had a lag spike | 01:56 | |
| antarus | and it is my believe that /etc/skel/.profile is busted in this way | 01:56 |
| antarus | but I could be convinced otherwise ;p | 01:56 |
| antarus | Its also not clear if /etc/skel/.profile is sourced by non-bourne shells | 01:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | as i said, my specialization is in server packages, so... ;P | 01:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | forgive semi-noobish questions such as the one i asked ;P | 01:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... aw crap, not again | 01:57 |
| * TheLordOfTime walks off to fix apt-mirror again | 01:57 | |
| antarus | ahh good old apt | 01:57 |
| antarus | the only stupid question is teh question left unasked, etc... | 01:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | meh, apt mirror's a different piece of work :P | 02:09 |
| TheLordOfTime | its evilish :P | 02:09 |
| antarus | we use debmirror | 02:11 |
| antarus | its also crap | 02:11 |
| antarus | ;p | 02:11 |
| TheLordOfTime | well apt-mirror just failed because of lag | 02:11 |
| TheLordOfTime | so... | 02:11 |
| * TheLordOfTime fixed that | 02:11 | |
| antarus | although it comes ot mind that we might just do something stupid | 02:17 |
| antarus | isn't /bin/sh dash on Ubuntu? | 02:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | thought it was just 'sh' | 02:17 |
| * TheLordOfTime loads up a VM | 02:17 | |
| TheLordOfTime | root@luna:/bin# ls -alshF sh | 02:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 29 2012 sh -> dash* | 02:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm wrong :P | 02:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | it is dash | 02:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | (symlink?) | 02:18 |
| antarus | yeah | 02:19 |
| antarus | we symlink it to bash for some reason | 02:19 |
| TheLordOfTime | s/bash/dash/ | 02:19 |
| TheLordOfTime | that's on Precise | 02:19 |
| antarus | right | 02:19 |
| antarus | we == work | 02:19 |
| * TheLordOfTime points at Luna, then at a 12.04 CD | 02:19 | |
| antarus | at work we symlink it to bash | 02:19 |
| antarus | probably because it was the cool thing to do 7 years ago ;p | 02:19 |
| antarus | which would explain why only we are seeing these weird lightdm issues | 02:20 |
| antarus | I'll go in tomorrow and see if replacing bash with dash 'fixes' it | 02:20 |
| * antarus grumbles | 02:20 | |
| TheLordOfTime | so... pebkac? :P | 02:20 |
| antarus | meh | 02:20 |
| TheLordOfTime | hehe i kid. | 02:21 |
| epikvision | Hello, is anyone here participating in the hug day? | 02:21 |
| antarus | we call these bugs based on 'historical purposes' | 02:21 |
| TheLordOfTime | epikvision, its almost the end of the day, i could have sworn a bunch were already participating | 02:21 |
| antarus | because we didn't write down why we did X, but we have the commit that did it | 02:21 |
| TheLordOfTime | but i wasn't here, i was busy so... | 02:21 |
| antarus | so we spend hours trying to puzzle out why ;) | 02:21 |
| epikvision | well, I just returned from school, and I'm just about to start. I'm having trouble though in using hugday-tools. I branched it, but bash doesn't recognize "hugday" as a command. | 02:22 |
| TheLordOfTime | this is why i just triage normally :P | 02:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | epikvision, afaiui transmission's the focus | 02:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | there's quite a bit of segv bugs though, so... | 02:23 |
| epikvision | TheLordOfTime, I would do it normally, but I also want to try out the tools. How can I install the tools with the setup.py file? | 02:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | epikvision, i don't use the tools, so i couldn't tell you :P | 02:26 |
| epikvision | Ok, I figured it was: python setup.py install | 02:28 |
| chilicuil | it seems the ubuntu bug day was a success, all bugs listed were touched =) | 02:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | there should be a readme, no epikvision? :P | 02:28 |
| epikvision | chilicuil, so bug day is finished? :-( | 02:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm still here | 02:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | if you have something you want me to look at lemme kno0w | 02:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | otherwise, i'm going to be hacking away at php5's source code | 02:29 |
| epikvision | there is, but it didn't explain installation. | 02:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | is there an 'INSTALL' file? :P | 02:30 |
| chilicuil | epikvision: I'd say yes, but there are still a bunch of reports in other pkgs waiting for us, I'll do a little bit of triaging work now | 02:31 |
| TheLordOfTime | yepo | 02:31 |
| TheLordOfTime | yep * | 02:31 |
| epikvision | just a setup.py file, but at least I installed it. | 02:31 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm highly specialized into server packages, but i'm here if needed, so ;P | 02:31 |
| * TheLordOfTime yawns | 02:31 | |
| epikvision | chilicuil, yeah, I'm going to start triaging too. | 02:32 |
| epikvision | when triaging bugs, is it necessary to have the same desktop version? | 02:37 |
| epikvision | to confirm the bug? | 02:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | epikvision, do you mean same desktop environment? | 02:38 |
| epikvision | Because I'm going to do triaging on my 12.04.1 stable machine. Don't know if I have to be using development build... | 02:38 |
| epikvision | yes | 02:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | rather than destop "version" | 02:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | epikvision, if something is filed against precise, confirm using precise | 02:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | and check quantal / raring | 02:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | unless someone already said "Quantal / Raring / $release is not affected." | 02:39 |
| epikvision | anyone using hugday tools? I need some assistance. How do I identify MOINID? | 02:58 |
| epikvision | It seems that most of the bugs for today have been triaged. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission | 03:12 |
| TheLordOfTime | yup | 03:13 |
| epikvision | oh well, I will just get to other bugs then. | 03:14 |
| om26er | cool, we had 71 NEW bugs when we started now they are 3 | 06:10 |
| * TheLordOfTime goes back to stabbing oidentd's packaging | 06:10 | |
| TheLordOfTime | is it weird when it says that the debian tarball modifies upstream changes? | 06:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | s/changes/files/ | 06:11 |
| TheLordOfTime | (where "debian tarball" is the .debian.tar.gz) | 06:11 |
| Zilvador | Has the package ubuntu-qa-tools been taken out of universe? | 10:19 |
| jibel | Zilvador, yes, it has been removed in Natty IIRC but it is still maintained in LP https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-tools | 10:27 |
| Zilvador | jibel, apparently the lastest package is for Natty there too. Can it be installed in Quantal or is there a replacement? | 10:29 |
| jibel | Zilvador, which tools are you interested in? There is a package here https://launchpad.net/~utah/+archive/daily/+packages but it only contains vm-tools and dl-ubuntu-test-iso | 10:35 |
| jibel | otherwise most of the tools are runnable from the source tree | 10:35 |
| Zilvador | jibel, I was just thinking of the tools on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Tools | 10:36 |
| Zilvador | Or more generally to find out which tools there are. | 10:37 |
| jibel | oh, it's really old stuff, there is no package that I know. I don't even know if hugday in particular still works on latest releases | 10:42 |
| Zilvador | jibel, I see. Then I will just skip it. Maybe the wiki page should be removed then? | 10:42 |
| jibel | Zilvador, hugday from https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-tools works fine on raring, so it just needs a volunteer to give it some love and maintain a package :) | 10:46 |
| Zilvador | jibel, sounds good :). Can I update the wiki page with this information? | 10:47 |
| jibel | Zilvador, of course, it's a public wiki | 10:49 |
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| iBelieve | I've been working on a bug for a long time and haven't been able to fix it, so I just unassigned myself from it. However, I can't set the status from "In progress" back to "Triaged". Is that what I'm supposed to do, or what am I supposed to do? | 16:30 |
| roadmr | iBelieve: if you're no longer actively working on it, Triaged sounds better | 16:43 |
| roadmr | iBelieve: if you like I can help set it to that, just give me the bug number | 16:43 |
| iBelieve | roadmr: Thank you, the bug is LP #657275. | 16:44 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 657275 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug should save reports offline automatically rather than giving a cryptic error message" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657275 | 16:44 |
| roadmr | iBelieve: done | 16:47 |
| iBelieve | roadmr: thanks! | 16:48 |
| JoseAntonioR | Hey, guys! I'd like to know if any of you is interested on doing a 'You can fix bitesize too!' session for the Ubuntu Developer Week on the 31st Jan, at 18:30 UTC. | 16:49 |
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