[01:07] bug 1101027 could use some verifying [01:07] Launchpad bug 1101027 in asunder (Ubuntu) "most people use 192 but asunder users can't" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1101027 [01:30] ok so now I need the bash maintainer.. [01:31] doko or steve eh [01:32] hrm these sponsorship instructions look old :/ [01:32] antarus, what're you trying to do, if I may ask? [01:35] https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/bash/+bug/778627 [01:35] Launchpad bug 778627 in bash (Ubuntu) "In natty, bash completion now quotes shell variable references rather than expanding them" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:35] I uploaded a debdiff to fix that bug [01:36] I'm looking for a sponsor to upload it to proposed, and then nominate for SRU [01:36] subscribe ubuntu-sponsors and the sru team, but first, can you tell me which versions are actually affected? [01:36] i.e. precise, oneiric,... [01:36] i can see in the bug it says quantal/raring unaffected [01:37] ... oh that reminds me i need to ping the release team about an SRU... :p [01:37] the users on the bug reported the breakage first in natty [01:37] and it was still broken in P [01:37] antarus, natty's EOL [01:37] so I assume N, O, P [01:37] i was asking about what releases you have personally seen it in. [01:37] oh [01:37] i.e. [01:37] I only run LTS [01:37] so just P [01:37] did you confirm oneiric is affected? and that precise is affected? [01:38] I can definately confirm Precise is affected [01:38] I have no O machines [01:38] OK i'm going to nominate that bug for P, but i'd like to see whether O is also impacted because if so it'll need an SRU for O too [01:38] but I can download its bash and reproduce [01:38] although in april we can ignore it :P [01:38] heh [01:38] s/in/after/ [01:39] Yeah we are quickly getting everyone off of lucid before it falls off of a cliff ;) [01:39] s/lucid/oneiric/ [01:40] last i checked lucid is also an LTS [01:40] and doesn't die yet [01:40] it dies soon ;) [01:40] desktop dies, but not server :P [01:40] desktop is in april, server's 2015 [01:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [01:40] :) [01:40] I only care about desktop ;) [01:40] ANYWAYS [01:41] i've nominated the bug for Precise, but i've also commented saying i'd like to see if its seen in Oneiric too [01:41] yes, let me check O's bash [01:42] antarus, i'll be kind and help you out in subscribing sponsors and the SRU team, but in future, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure is useful. :) [01:43] Hey TheLordOfTime! [01:43] but first, i have to kill this windows server that's being stupid [01:44] * TheLordOfTime waves to epikvision [01:44] seems we're getting a lot done so far. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20130117 [01:44] bleh i've only been around for about 30 minutes [01:44] given i had other obligations today :P [01:44] TheLordOfTime: Yeah I'm still trying to get the hang of this process ;) [01:44] I appreciate the help [01:44] antarus, no problem :) [01:44] I have about a dozen more of these to do ;) [01:45] i'll subscribe sponsors and SRU for you, fi you want send me the other bugs as well with details of releases affected [01:45] most of them will require more work on my part yet [01:46] * antarus doesn't have the backports done [01:46] :P [01:46] or patches, or debdiffs, or whathaveyou [01:46] antarus, i subscribed sponsors and sru to that bug [01:46] thanks [01:46] (but also, the link i gave you explainsi which iteams you subscribe) [01:46] EVIL KEY! *points to the random 'i' charactersi showing iup.* [01:48] hiya jbicha! [01:50] I guess bug 1099987 is easy, but I think it is also broken in debian. [01:50] Launchpad bug 1099987 in bash (Ubuntu) "/etc/skel/.profile does not detect bash properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099987 [01:50] it looks like doko maintains bash in both though? [01:52] is the bug filed in Debian yet? [01:52] no, I will do that [01:52] i meant, did you see if someone else filed the bug in debian yet. [01:52] actually, strike that, i'll just go check [01:52] * TheLordOfTime pulls up bugs.d.o [01:52] we searched [01:52] didn't find anything [01:53] meh its alright, this gives me the chance to test my search script :P [01:53] its not strictly clear if it is bug [01:53] or just WAI [01:53] in which case I'll just patch it internally [01:54] The main problem is that lightdm-session runs in posix mode, but sources $HOME/.profile. $BASH_VERSION is *set* in posix mode, so posix-only bash ends up sourcing ~/.bashrc [01:54] and dies when ~/.bashrc contains bashisms [01:55] (and then lightdm restarts) [01:55] its awesome [01:55] (ly bad) [01:55] okay, interesting question. and i apologize, my specialization is in server packages, but wouldn't this then be a conflict between lightdm-session and bash? [01:56] and not necessarily a bash bug? [01:56] Sorry, Conflict being like a package conflict? [01:56] Its not a bug in bash the shell; but the bash package ships /etc/skel/.profile [01:56] ah okay, that's what i missed [01:56] * TheLordOfTime had a lag spike [01:56] and it is my believe that /etc/skel/.profile is busted in this way [01:56] but I could be convinced otherwise ;p [01:57] Its also not clear if /etc/skel/.profile is sourced by non-bourne shells [01:57] as i said, my specialization is in server packages, so... ;P [01:57] forgive semi-noobish questions such as the one i asked ;P [01:57] ... aw crap, not again [01:57] * TheLordOfTime walks off to fix apt-mirror again [01:57] ahh good old apt [01:58] the only stupid question is teh question left unasked, etc... [02:09] meh, apt mirror's a different piece of work :P [02:09] its evilish :P [02:11] we use debmirror [02:11] its also crap [02:11] ;p [02:11] well apt-mirror just failed because of lag [02:11] so... [02:11] * TheLordOfTime fixed that [02:17] although it comes ot mind that we might just do something stupid [02:17] isn't /bin/sh dash on Ubuntu? [02:17] thought it was just 'sh' [02:17] * TheLordOfTime loads up a VM [02:18] root@luna:/bin# ls -alshF sh [02:18] 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 29 2012 sh -> dash* [02:18] i'm wrong :P [02:18] it is dash [02:18] (symlink?) [02:19] yeah [02:19] we symlink it to bash for some reason [02:19] s/bash/dash/ [02:19] that's on Precise [02:19] right [02:19] we == work [02:19] * TheLordOfTime points at Luna, then at a 12.04 CD [02:19] at work we symlink it to bash [02:19] probably because it was the cool thing to do 7 years ago ;p [02:20] which would explain why only we are seeing these weird lightdm issues [02:20] I'll go in tomorrow and see if replacing bash with dash 'fixes' it [02:20] * antarus grumbles [02:20] so... pebkac? :P [02:20] meh [02:21] hehe i kid. [02:21] Hello, is anyone here participating in the hug day? [02:21] we call these bugs based on 'historical purposes' [02:21] epikvision, its almost the end of the day, i could have sworn a bunch were already participating [02:21] because we didn't write down why we did X, but we have the commit that did it [02:21] but i wasn't here, i was busy so... [02:21] so we spend hours trying to puzzle out why ;) [02:22] well, I just returned from school, and I'm just about to start. I'm having trouble though in using hugday-tools. I branched it, but bash doesn't recognize "hugday" as a command. [02:23] this is why i just triage normally :P [02:23] epikvision, afaiui transmission's the focus [02:23] there's quite a bit of segv bugs though, so... [02:26] TheLordOfTime, I would do it normally, but I also want to try out the tools. How can I install the tools with the setup.py file? [02:26] epikvision, i don't use the tools, so i couldn't tell you :P [02:28] Ok, I figured it was: python setup.py install [02:28] it seems the ubuntu bug day was a success, all bugs listed were touched =) [02:28] there should be a readme, no epikvision? :P [02:29] chilicuil, so bug day is finished? :-( [02:29] i'm still here [02:29] if you have something you want me to look at lemme kno0w [02:29] otherwise, i'm going to be hacking away at php5's source code [02:30] there is, but it didn't explain installation. [02:30] is there an 'INSTALL' file? :P [02:31] epikvision: I'd say yes, but there are still a bunch of reports in other pkgs waiting for us, I'll do a little bit of triaging work now [02:31] yepo [02:31] yep * [02:31] just a setup.py file, but at least I installed it. [02:31] i'm highly specialized into server packages, but i'm here if needed, so ;P [02:31] * TheLordOfTime yawns [02:32] chilicuil, yeah, I'm going to start triaging too. [02:37] when triaging bugs, is it necessary to have the same desktop version? [02:37] to confirm the bug? [02:38] epikvision, do you mean same desktop environment? [02:38] Because I'm going to do triaging on my 12.04.1 stable machine. Don't know if I have to be using development build... [02:38] yes [02:38] rather than destop "version" [02:39] epikvision, if something is filed against precise, confirm using precise [02:39] and check quantal / raring [02:39] unless someone already said "Quantal / Raring / $release is not affected." [02:58] anyone using hugday tools? I need some assistance. How do I identify MOINID? [03:12] It seems that most of the bugs for today have been triaged. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission [03:13] yup [03:14] oh well, I will just get to other bugs then. [06:10] cool, we had 71 NEW bugs when we started now they are 3 [06:10] * TheLordOfTime goes back to stabbing oidentd's packaging [06:10] is it weird when it says that the debian tarball modifies upstream changes? [06:11] s/changes/files/ [06:11] (where "debian tarball" is the .debian.tar.gz) [10:19] Has the package ubuntu-qa-tools been taken out of universe? [10:27] Zilvador, yes, it has been removed in Natty IIRC but it is still maintained in LP https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-tools [10:29] jibel, apparently the lastest package is for Natty there too. Can it be installed in Quantal or is there a replacement? [10:35] Zilvador, which tools are you interested in? There is a package here https://launchpad.net/~utah/+archive/daily/+packages but it only contains vm-tools and dl-ubuntu-test-iso [10:35] otherwise most of the tools are runnable from the source tree [10:36] jibel, I was just thinking of the tools on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Tools [10:37] Or more generally to find out which tools there are. [10:42] oh, it's really old stuff, there is no package that I know. I don't even know if hugday in particular still works on latest releases [10:42] jibel, I see. Then I will just skip it. Maybe the wiki page should be removed then? [10:46] Zilvador, hugday from https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-tools works fine on raring, so it just needs a volunteer to give it some love and maintain a package :) [10:47] jibel, sounds good :). Can I update the wiki page with this information? [10:49] Zilvador, of course, it's a public wiki === yofel_ is now known as yofel === om26er_ is now known as om26er [16:30] I've been working on a bug for a long time and haven't been able to fix it, so I just unassigned myself from it. However, I can't set the status from "In progress" back to "Triaged". Is that what I'm supposed to do, or what am I supposed to do? [16:43] iBelieve: if you're no longer actively working on it, Triaged sounds better [16:43] iBelieve: if you like I can help set it to that, just give me the bug number [16:44] roadmr: Thank you, the bug is LP #657275. [16:44] Launchpad bug 657275 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug should save reports offline automatically rather than giving a cryptic error message" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/657275 [16:47] iBelieve: done [16:48] roadmr: thanks! [16:49] Hey, guys! I'd like to know if any of you is interested on doing a 'You can fix bitesize too!' session for the Ubuntu Developer Week on the 31st Jan, at 18:30 UTC. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha