| beatsonline | popey, soz, 'keep forgetting its a job, and not a HW hack for a wiki.... next on the agenda... | 00:42 |
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| beatsonline | booking to see stallman in Feb. | 00:42 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| beatsonline | !Vavoom | 02:55 |
| === beatsonline is now known as bestsr | ||
| === bestsr is now known as bgstsr | ||
| Azelphur | ali1234: no, I always used Mythbuntu, I switched to XBMC when I moved though | 05:02 |
| popey | morning | 06:17 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:12 |
| diplo | BigRedS: Like the look of sitecreate, will have a play over next few days | 08:40 |
| === esther is now known as esmo | ||
| marxjohnson | Brr! not going outside again today! | 09:17 |
| dwatkins | cycling in was definitely a lot more difficult in the cold | 09:20 |
| czajkowski | so much snow :( | 09:23 |
| dwatkins | is it not a good thing, czajkowski? | 09:26 |
| Laney | as long as it doesn't prevent my passage to the pub later | 09:27 |
| dwatkins | I have crampons for emergencies such as that. | 09:27 |
| czajkowski | dwatkins: no it's not | 09:30 |
| czajkowski | it's coming down very heavy in Guildford | 09:30 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That's it. UK is fscked for a few days now. | 09:30 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Heavy in Farnham too. | 09:31 |
| * Laney didn't feel the earthquake this morning :( | 09:32 | |
| directhex | snowmageddon! | 09:53 |
| dwatkins | TheOpenSourcerer: no snow here in Scotland, we'll keep the deep fried mars bars and haggis flowing, don't worry | 10:02 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:04 |
| bigcalm | Ahoy ho | 10:15 |
| bigcalm | y | 10:15 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm | 10:15 |
| bigcalm | Hi brobostigon. Do you have snow? :) | 10:16 |
| brobostigon | bigcalm: yes, been snowing, since around 7pm yesterday. | 10:17 |
| bigcalm | Snowed all of yesterday but only just and didn't really stick. Bit different today :) | 10:18 |
| bigcalm | I would be having a fun snow day if I didn't work from home | 10:18 |
| brobostigon | :( | 10:19 |
| directhex | snowmageddon! | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 10:19 |
| directhex | glad i went to tesco last night. | 10:19 |
| directhex | well stocked on canned beans and frozen pizza. | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | I did drive Hayley to work this morning though. I wonder what it'll be like when I need to pick her up later | 10:19 |
| directhex | nd orange truffle baileys | 10:19 |
| directhex | prius in snow = expensive brick | 10:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | dwatkins: There's really quite a lot here. Was nothing at 07:30. Now this: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/instantupload/5834727968215267794 | 10:20 |
| directhex | with doors and a heater | 10:20 |
| dwatkins | TheOpenSourcerer: I don't think I can open that link | 10:21 |
| directhex | nor i | 10:21 |
| directhex | it just says "ha ha no g+ for you, puny windows phone user" | 10:21 |
| directhex | or words to that effect | 10:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | https://plus.google.com/u/0/104060033182234025482/posts | 10:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Think I needed to share it. | 10:22 |
| bigcalm | https://plus.google.com/u/1/104060033182234025482/posts/cmfMXzBeVxm | 10:22 |
| bigcalm | TheOpenSourcerer: you did | 10:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Snow still coming down going to be knee deep by the time I have to walk to the pub. | 10:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | :-D | 10:23 |
| dwatkins | impressive | 10:29 |
| dwatkins | at least when it's that deep it's understandable that transport might be affected | 10:30 |
| dwatkins | when it's only a couple centimetres, we just laugh from north of the border (I'm from Reading, by the way) | 10:30 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Has anyone created a selectable, drop down list that uses icons instead of words for a web interface? I know the <select><option> is out. Just wondering if there is a nice way to enable a user to choose from a list of Icons? | 10:32 |
| DJones | Ah...The joys of working from home when the snow comes down, coffee, central heating and a nice cozy office :) | 10:45 |
| dwatkins | Last time it snowed when I lived in Reading, I drove in to work (carefully) then started getting phonecalls form people saying there were having trouble getting in - I think they were scared to drive in the snow | 10:48 |
| czajkowski | https://plus.google.com/102921374554385564572/posts/3tSksKANgaW Guildford snow! | 10:48 |
| gord | pfft, even we have more snow than that | 10:51 |
| diplo | heh it's just a covering, getting quite deep here now. Debating going home to work at lunch time | 10:55 |
| dwatkins | We're forecast snow here in Edinburgh in the afternoon, cycling home along the canal will be amusing. | 10:56 |
| diplo | dwatkins: I had that a couple of years ago, a dozen people phoned in saying they couldn't get in, I had driven past 11 of their houses to get to work | 10:56 |
| diplo | :D | 10:56 |
| dwatkins | diplo: sounds about right, yeah | 10:56 |
| Laney | if it's cold enough you'll be able to cycle /on/ the canal! | 10:56 |
| dwatkins | Laney: I think about that every time it even slightly freezes over :D | 10:58 |
| dwatkins | when the snow settles on it, then I might consider that more seriously | 10:58 |
| gord | we have exactly this much snow https://dl.dropbox.com/u/95627817/2013-01-18%2010.58.24.jpg | 10:59 |
| daubers | Morning | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 11:07 |
| davmor2 | is snow settling on the main road a bad thing? | 11:08 |
| bigcalm | Not if you work from home | 11:08 |
| * daubers waits for code to finish scp'ing across from the office | 11:09 | |
| davmor2 | by main road I mean the main one the ambulances, fire, police, buses and about 200 cars an hour use | 11:09 |
| dwatkins | davmor2: I'd expect it to be compacted or even melted by the passage of traffic | 11:11 |
| dwatkins | I used to live on a minor road, the snow just got compressed so was fairly slippery; I think they salt the major roads, and the warmth of the tyres should help melt all but the heaviest snow during the day | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | dwatkins: erm no the snow fall is so heavy at the moment there are just ruts where the cars drive | 11:12 |
| dwatkins | oh right | 11:12 |
| dwatkins | in Reading a couple years ago, they salted the roads, then it warmed up and rained, when it cooled down again, the roads ended up covered in ice | 11:13 |
| daubers | View from my window http://ubuntuone.com/3XEi9C5C2t0m0FQDDzNtbA | 11:13 |
| dwatkins | the salt was washed away | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | it actually looks foggy which is bizarre | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | daubers: http://ubuntuone.com/5VBad3dEViPxwhJ1vMwOY0 view from mine and the distance you can see just reduce again :D | 11:39 |
| kvarley | Is it possible to install "Ubuntu TV" on a PC? | 11:42 |
| kvarley | As in the TV environment and the TV guide lens | 11:42 |
| kvarley | NVM found my answer on askubuntu | 11:46 |
| dwatkins | davmor2: which town/city are you in, out of curiosity? | 11:47 |
| dwatkins | http://uksnowmap.com/ is unsurprisingly very slow today | 11:48 |
| davmor2 | dwatkins: The City of Dreams | 11:48 |
| dwatkins | a lovely place to be | 11:48 |
| davmor2 | dwatkins: overwise known as Wolverhampton | 11:48 |
| dwatkins | aha I see, thanks | 11:49 |
| directhex | nobody uses #uksnow anymore. now it's #snowmageddon | 11:55 |
| davmor2 | this kitty doesn't seem happy with the snowman https://twitter.com/BigCatWHF/status/292237040949538816/photo/1 | 12:09 |
| dwatkins | perhaps it's just trying to make friends with it, like Hobbes does with Calvin... | 12:12 |
| davmor2 | dwatkins: no the original comment was that it lasted about 12 seconds, you don't need friends like that :D | 12:19 |
| Laney | yay, finally the snow has arrived in nottingham | 12:37 |
| kvarley | Can Ubuntu TV also act as a server? So could I have an Ubuntu TV box running as a server connected to a capture card and then the rest of my Ubuntu PCs acting as clients receiving remote streams via ethernet? | 12:38 |
| BigRedS | Anyone know what I need to do to VirtualBox to make it so my VMs can acces both my host and the Internet? | 13:03 |
| BigRedS | I'm sure I've deduced it before, but none of the options seem to be working now | 13:03 |
| daftykins | you have to bridge your eth0 with the vbox interfaces don't you? | 13:06 |
| daftykins | at least to do it the way vmware does it | 13:06 |
| BigRedS | I thought a bridged network was how I did it last time.. | 13:06 |
| BigRedS | I'll keep fiddling | 13:06 |
| daftykins | http://codesupply.net/content/setup-bridged-networking-virtualbox-ubuntu-1110 | 13:06 |
| BigRedS | ta! | 13:07 |
| BigRedS | Whoa. Last time I went near /etc/network/interfaces network-manager wouldn't talk to me for weeks | 13:08 |
| daftykins | yeah it'll break with static config | 13:10 |
| daftykins | jebus vmware is £170 =| | 13:11 |
| BigRedS | yeah, I'm beginning to see NM as the common problem with virtualisation... | 13:11 |
| * BigRedS ponders hyper-v | 13:12 | |
| daftykins | ugh the times i was involved with hyper-v i found it disgusting | 13:12 |
| daftykins | needing a windows domain? eww. | 13:12 |
| daftykins | it's changed a lot since then though, that was prior to server 2008 R2's release that i was using it | 13:12 |
| BigRedS | HAha, I don't mind how filthy it is, I just want to get on with some work and stop goading virtualisation software into working | 13:13 |
| BigRedS | Nah, I want a Debian Squeeze VM | 13:13 |
| BigRedS | but I want to SSH into it and then let it download from the Inernet | 13:13 |
| BigRedS | which appears to be something of an impossibility with network0-manager, and I don't have a long enough cat5 cable to switch to etherent | 13:14 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 13:16 |
| BigRedS | Im borrowing a VM on The Internet now :) | 13:17 |
| BigRedS | Still, I'm sure this problem was roughly solved about four years ago and can't quite see why it's all broken now | 13:18 |
| daftykins | i can't even imagine how you'd do it in Linux land | 13:18 |
| daftykins | vmware on Windows, which is what i always use, has its' own taps into interfaces so it doesn't matter | 13:18 |
| BigRedS | yeah, virt-manager set up its own bridges which worked well for a while | 13:20 |
| BigRedS | but now n-m dislikes those and keeps disabling them | 13:20 |
| daftykins | XD | 13:21 |
| BigRedS | really, I want to just replace n-m with something that's aware that all it's supposed to do is connect to a wifi network and shut up | 13:21 |
| BigRedS | I don't understand what it thinks it adds to any other interface. But my brief faffing with wpa-supplicant and friends the other day demonstrated that it's not something I can just knock up in an afternoon | 13:22 |
| daftykins | *nods* | 13:24 |
| daftykins | dark magic | 13:24 |
| BigRedS | yeah, I guess there's a good reason that nobody's yet done that and we all just trot along tolerating n-m | 13:26 |
| BigRedS | A bit tempted to just set up an unsecured network in each of the six or seven places I tend to wantwifi | 13:27 |
| daftykins | hehe | 13:29 |
| davmor2 | BigRedS: for me I click on the settings button → networking option → and change nat to bridge adapter then when you start up the guest it automatically fetches the new ip address from you dhcp server | 13:42 |
| BigRedS | davmor2: yeah, that's what I thought worked, but it just didn't | 13:44 |
| BigRedS | I'll give it another go in a bit if this router keeps crapping out | 13:44 |
| BigRedS | Oooh, seems to work | 13:50 |
| BigRedS | wonder how long it'll take for network manager to oppose it :) | 13:51 |
| davmor2 | BigRedS: well if you will do silly things with your network then this will happen :P I only ever seem to have issues with NM when I'm not sat in my home for some reason :D | 13:53 |
| BigRedS | davmor2: yeah, that's the silly thing! I've been trying to work when not at work :) | 13:56 |
| BigRedS | I think it's just trying to enforce some relaxation or something | 13:56 |
| BigRedS | it's like an over-concerned mother | 13:56 |
| davmor2 | hahaha | 13:56 |
| kvarley | Can anybody recommend a good gui for scheduling commands to run at a certain time? This is a one off command, not a daily/weekly/monthly kind of thing | 14:03 |
| dwatkins | a front-end to 'at', kvarley? | 14:04 |
| kvarley | dwatkins: Preferably it would work with X forwarding via SSH too. | 14:06 |
| kvarley | dwatkins: I'd be happy to use CLI too but I don't want it to be too complicated since it's only for running commands once at a certain time on a system | 14:06 |
| dwatkins | Personally, I'd just use 'at', I don't know if there's a form-based GUI for it. | 14:07 |
| BigRedS | at's a pretty simple syntax | 14:07 |
| BigRedS | though a bit obscure, too | 14:07 |
| BigRedS | basically, you do at <time> and hit enter | 14:07 |
| BigRedS | and then list your commands, and hit ctrl-D | 14:07 |
| kvarley | Can I do sudo stuff? | 14:07 |
| BigRedS | if you have nopasswd | 14:08 |
| BigRedS | or you just sudo at | 14:08 |
| kvarley | I want to update and install certain packages after 6pm (when my internet tariff relaxes) on computers on my lan | 14:08 |
| kvarley | Will it work remotely BigRedS? | 14:08 |
| BigRedS | hm, might need to sudo su and then at | 14:08 |
| BigRedS | remotely? | 14:08 |
| BigRedS | you'll want to ssh onto whichever machine you want the command to run | 14:08 |
| kvarley | Yeah as in can I login via SSH and then do at on the remote machine? | 14:08 |
| BigRedS | yeah | 14:09 |
| kvarley | Yeah, that's good, thanks :) BigRedS & dwatkins | 14:09 |
| BigRedS | sshing in to a machine is basically the same as being sat in front of it | 14:09 |
| kvarley | BigRedS: wondered if it would kill 'at' when the session ended was all | 14:10 |
| kvarley | I did at 14:10 and added my command but it keeps getting me onto a new command line now | 14:10 |
| kvarley | How do I say end of commands? | 14:10 |
| Seeker` | ctrl-D | 14:14 |
| Seeker` | as BigRedS said | 14:14 |
| kvarley | Ah thanks sorry, missed it | 14:15 |
| kvarley | Doesn't seem to work | 14:15 |
| kvarley | I said for it to open gedit but nothing happens, is that cos it runs in a different shell? | 14:15 |
| dwatkins | kvarley: you might also find 'screen' useful in general, although perhaps you already use it | 14:16 |
| kvarley | dwatkins: I do :) | 14:16 |
| BigRedS | you want to open gedit? | 14:20 |
| kvarley | BigRedS: It was only for a test. I was checking it worked but then realised if I did a command line activity it does actually work | 14:33 |
| bgstsr | OOOooo .. someone just asked me "Would you like to use a different operating system ? " .. | 14:37 |
| BigRedS | kvarley: ahhh | 14:38 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| meet | i have a home network. how do i send a print to the winxp printer? ubuntu 12.10 | 16:56 |
| directhex | meet, is the printer shared, in windows? | 17:25 |
| meet | directhex: yes | 17:42 |
| directhex | go to the add printer dialogue, and add new network printer. it should search for & find the printer on the network | 17:43 |
| meet | directhex: it's not finding | 17:44 |
| meet | directhex: how do make it detect the printer? | 17:50 |
| directhex | hm. haven't used a windows-shared printer for YEARS, i won't have up to date klnowledge | 17:52 |
| czajkowski | /c/c | 18:00 |
| Laney | cockatrice | 18:01 |
| * gord picks up the cockatrice to flail it as a weapon | 18:02 | |
| Laney | you better be wearing gloves | 18:02 |
| gord | since when have i ever done anything right in that game? | 18:03 |
| gord | my favourite one is when you are blind and touch the cocatrice whilst just feeling your way around | 18:03 |
| Laney | i like when you fall down a hole while holding it | 18:04 |
| xnox | it's a sad day for me. I broke networking in kvm & I don't know how to fix it =( | 18:41 |
| xnox | sucks when trying to work on the installer. | 18:41 |
| czajkowski | xnox: join Laney on the naughty step | 18:41 |
| Laney | clearly pub time anyway | 18:41 |
| xnox | czajkowski: what did Laney do?! | 18:42 |
| xnox | Laney: pub time or igloo time? | 18:42 |
| Laney | nobody can remember what laney did | 18:42 |
| czajkowski | he broke stuff in raring :) | 18:42 |
| Laney | he's been on the step so long that he's fused to it | 18:42 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: lives on the stop | 18:43 |
| czajkowski | *step | 18:43 |
| Laney | xnox: I do have to get two buses to get there ... | 18:43 |
| === irina is now known as Guest14986 | ||
| popey | bug 1101338 | 19:03 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1101338 in gksu (Ubuntu) "gksudo doesn't truncate long command line, so runs off the edge of the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1101338 | 19:03 |
| popey | anyone fancy confirming | 19:03 |
| === james_w` is now known as james_w | ||
| * xnox wants better IRC and better email clients | 20:01 | |
| kvarley-mobile | LibreOffice 3.6.2.2 won't do spell checking on my Dads laptop, any ideas? | 20:44 |
| kvarley-mobile | Language settings are all English (UK) | 20:44 |
| ali1234 | someone forked gnome fallback | 22:53 |
| ali1234 | about time | 22:53 |
| ali1234 | MATE was always a silly idea | 22:53 |
| popey | ali1234: is that the soluous thing? | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | the guy seems to have the right idea | 23:08 |
| ali1234 | fork only gnome-panel | 23:08 |
| ali1234 | keep the gtk stuff | 23:08 |
| ali1234 | gtk3* | 23:08 |
| ali1234 | XFCE and MATE just don't work for me because of gtk2 - indicators don't work | 23:08 |
| ali1234 | solusos seems to be a distribution? | 23:09 |
| ali1234 | is it based on ubuntu? | 23:10 |
| popey | debian i thought | 23:10 |
| ali1234 | ah. even better then | 23:10 |
| ali1234 | should be easy to bring the packages over either way | 23:10 |
| ali1234 | what's the best way to network up my amiga then? | 23:38 |
| ali1234 | it's going to have to be serial | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | all the tcp/ip software is shareware | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | i don't miss that :( | 23:39 |
| ali1234 | i wonder if i can port synergy | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | already been done :) | 23:43 |
| ali1234 | oh, it needs OS4 :( | 23:43 |
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