[02:29] hello! [02:29] do any of you folk run RAID on your home servers etc? [02:30] yes, but its hardware RAID on mine :P [02:30] not software RAID :P [02:34] meh [02:35] I don't think I could stomach hardware raid. [02:35] * TheLordOfTime points at the $2500 server box :P [02:35] as i said, i run hardware raid. :P [02:35] I'm considering on setting up RAID but I'm not entirely sure what to go with. [02:36] Some reading suggests that I can do RAID 5 with only two drives utilizing mdadm [02:36] which would be nice because then I can later add 2 additional drives and do 4x2TB in RAID 5 [04:01] new plan [04:01] 4x2TB in RAID 10 [04:11] waste of disk space [04:12] I'm fine with that, given that there's some admirable tradeoffs with performance and redundancy. [04:13] the more I read the more it sounds like 10 has largely taken over the point behind why a lot of people used 5 [04:13] I never configure redundancy on home computers. I rely on my backups. [04:13] with the exception of the HDD space being a bit more limited with 10 vs 5 [04:13] I have a mirror in my desktop, which is nice. [04:13] my server though will be running 247 and host a few different services, so having RAID would be a bonus [04:14] RAID 5 would be faster and give you more usable space [04:14] everything I read suggests RAID 5 is only faster with read. [04:14] whereas RAID 10 is faste rwith write [04:14] which, considering I'll be pushing backups to the server a lot, comes with a benefit. [04:15] maybe once upon a time with slow checksumming or if you had a really slow RAID controller [04:16] I won't be using a RAID controller. [04:16] I'll be using software RAID via mdadm. [04:16] RAID 5 pros, often faster read, more usable space. RAID 10 pros, faster write, overall decent performance, superior redundancy to RAID 5. [04:16] Well, unless your CPU is under 100Mhz... [04:17] considering I'm spending the same money for RAID 5 as I would be for RAID 10, there's no cost difference to me. [04:17] It's just I get 4TB usable space instead of 6TB. [04:17] Boot Phoronix test suite and do a benchmark [04:17] Which, my goal is 2TB. [04:17] software RAID (mdadm) hardly uses any CPU power to question it, to be honest. [04:17] I think you will find RAID 5 with 4 drives is faster than RAID 10 [04:18] Well, maybe. So far I'd say 9/10 things I read suggest otherwise. [04:18] They do however say RAID 5 is often faster with read, but damn slow with write. [04:19] Some reports I'm reading are going as far as saying RAID 5 is obsolete. [04:24] I'd just stripe all 4. lol. [04:24] speed++ [04:25] 64k block size [04:27] stripe all 4, as in, RAID 0 across all? [04:30] yup [04:32] well that sounds like it's asking for a nightmare :P [10:25] Morning [10:52] Morning. [11:50] Morning [13:12] Morning peoples [16:57] We are running low on morning. [17:13] OK, here's another morning for you all [17:14] morning. [17:14] er, afternoon. close enough. [17:15] So, ChinnoDog are you filled up enough with mornings? Shall we get on with afternoons now ? [17:25] Yes. No more mornings for now. [18:00] Good afternoon, everyone ! Bears too. [18:34] :D [18:41] roasted: in January, Hmmm, Is that an oxymoron ? [23:16] Back in Philadelphia [23:17] https://i3.ytimg.com/vi/P0AMe25qENo/hqdefault.jpg [23:17] was my atom PC [23:17] it didn't have a dedicated fan though, just a fan for the box, so I took off that heatsink and added two more instead [23:20] https://plus.google.com/photos/109367249414092517185/albums/posts/5834932779375558290 [23:20] http://imgur.com/fNLNOD7