[04:21] <Kilos> morning all
[04:31] <Kilos> hiya superfly whats all the stuff by the 2 keyboards. i see a torch and a poor mouse at the back and what looks like a bottle of wood glue
[04:35] <Kilos> whew 66mB of updates today
[04:37] <nlsthzn> morning uncle Kilos , you are up early
[04:38] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn yeah wanted to see if server still worked on ssh and can share 3g
[04:38] <Kilos> working lekker
[04:39] <Squirm> morning
[04:39] <nlsthzn> coool
[04:40] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[04:40] <Kilos> with a little help from my friends of course
[04:41] <Kilos> the fly and Squirm found a config error
[04:42] <Kilos> no yawns so early Squirm ?
[04:45] <Kilos> aw restart needed to complete upgrade
[04:45] <Kilos> wbb
[04:51] <Squirm> must have been a kernel upgrade
[04:52] <Squirm> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:52] <Squirm>   libgnome2-0 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic skype
[04:52] <Squirm> The following packages will be upgraded:
[04:52]  * Squirm ponders
[04:56] <Squirm> Kilos: not yet
[04:56] <Squirm> give it 30min
[04:57] <Kilos> i hate having to use nvidia-173 every upgrade i reboot to 640x489 resolution then must reinstall nvidia-173 and reboot again
[04:57] <Kilos> grrr
[04:58] <Kilos> lol@ Squirm only 30 mins till you tired again
[04:58] <Kilos> hehe
[04:58] <Kilos> tough in africa
[04:58] <Squirm> I'm tired
[04:58] <Squirm> just not yawning
[04:58] <Kilos> ah
[04:58] <Squirm> I lie
[04:58]  * Squirm yawns
[04:59] <Kilos> lol
[04:59] <Squirm> inetpro: you have your rain
[04:59] <Squirm> now shoot me
[04:59] <Kilos> we had 2.5mm last night
[05:00] <Kilos> hope more comes today. buckets more
[05:00] <Squirm> I don't know how much we had
[05:00] <Squirm> s/had/hacing/
[05:00] <Kilos> thats not enough Squirm 
[05:00] <Squirm> s/hacing/having
[05:00] <Squirm> it's still raining, has been since about 8pm
[05:00] <Kilos> he is about 20 or 30 ks from here
[05:00] <Squirm> constant, light rainfall
[05:01]  * Kilos jealous
[05:01] <Squirm> weathersa issued a warning for this area
[05:01] <Kilos> blow it all this way
[05:01] <Kilos> sudo it
[05:01] <Squirm> Kilos: http://slexy.org/view/s21UN5PIhx
[05:03] <Kilos> well heres hoping they have it right for this side of gauteng
[05:05] <Squirm> Kilos: tell inetpro I'll be a little kind and let him shoot me when he wakes
[05:05] <Squirm> bbl
[05:05] <Kilos> ok will do
[05:31] <nuvolari> mornings oom Kilos :>
[05:31] <Maaz> nuvolari: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell nuvolari meeting monday night hey!!!!" 9 hours, 15 minutes and 22 seconds ago
[05:31] <nuvolari> hello Squirm 
[05:31] <Kilos> hiya nuvolari waar was jy al die tyd?
[05:31] <nuvolari> dankie vir oom Kilos se reminder
[05:31] <Kilos> ons worry oor jou ook man
[05:31] <nuvolari> werk oom :-/
[05:31] <Kilos> in die nag??
[05:32] <nuvolari> ek't die week series gekyk en gister aand 'n Hangout gehad
[05:32] <Kilos> jy beskikbaar vir maandag aand ne? 
[05:32] <Kilos> g+ hangout
[05:32] <nuvolari> Kilos: ek is oom
[05:32] <nuvolari> jip g+ hangout
[05:33] <Kilos> met die linux mensies
[05:33] <Kilos> ?
[05:33] <nuvolari> uh-hu, ons was net 3 though :P
[05:33] <Kilos> het daai outjie vir hulle gese hulle moet hier kom kuier
[05:33] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:34] <nuvolari> jy het ja oom
[05:34] <Kilos> daai vince ou
[05:34] <nuvolari> hy't gesê hy sal hier kom inloer
[05:34] <Kilos> mooi
[05:34] <nuvolari> ek het gesukkel met my internet so toe't ek vergeet om hierheen te kom
[05:34] <Kilos> dankie dat jy terug na my gekom het seen
[05:34] <Kilos> ai!
[05:35] <Kilos> http://is.gd/EIuArD
[05:35]  * nuvolari toets geary uit
[05:35] <nuvolari> email client 
[05:36] <nuvolari> ek het nou net op oom se epos reageer
[05:36] <Kilos> ai
[05:36] <Kilos> ek gebruik nog evolution
[05:37] <Kilos> op pop dan haal dit net nuwe pos daagliks
[05:37] <nuvolari> meh, so ver ek weet support geary nie pop nie
[05:39] <Kilos> ek het thunderbird probeer maar evo is beter en dit kan sy uie backup maak vir as jy upgrade of na ander pc gaan
[05:39] <Kilos> eie
[05:56] <magespawn> morning all
[05:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[05:56] <magespawn> sorri i left in such a hurry last night my phones battery died
[05:57] <Kilos> you fell asleep fone in hand last night hey?
[05:57] <Kilos> ah
[05:57] <Kilos> haha
[05:57] <Kilos> your quassel still showed you online
[05:57] <magespawn> it does not give me a lot of warning
[05:57] <magespawn> yup
[05:58] <Kilos> you need to do like fly and let it show away somehow
[06:06] <magespawn> i usually do, that is done by using the "/away" command, but did not have time when the battery went flat
[06:06] <Kilos> oh sorry magespawn thought it was an auto thing
[06:07] <magespawn> i do not know of a way that will do it automatically after a certain period
[06:08] <Kilos> not serious
[06:09] <Kilos> all good there? lotsa rain coming
[06:09] <Kilos> jozini dam will fill up
[06:09] <Kilos> hopefully
[06:14] <magespawn> the dam is almost full anyway
[06:14] <Kilos> wow you guys are lucky
[06:15] <Kilos> i was there when they built it and it wa just a tiny stream running in
[06:15] <magespawn> somebody let out 15% when they should have let out 1.5%
[06:15] <magespawn> there is almost always a lot of water there
[06:15] <Kilos> did the telx upkeep at the military base at the top
[06:16] <magespawn> cool
[06:16] <Kilos> telex
[06:16] <magespawn> must have looked very different
[06:16] <Kilos> looked like it would never fill up. such a small stream and such a big dam
[06:17] <magespawn> i have never seen it even close to empty in the 10 years or so i have been here
[06:18] <Kilos> wow some of the inland dams have gone down to 15% in the last few years
[06:19] <magespawn> the hluhluwe dam was getting very low, not sure what %, small dam with lots of usage, but that is full again 
[06:23] <superfly> ohi
[06:24] <Kilos> hi superfly SmilyBorg_w 
[06:24] <SmilyBorg_w> Hey there
[06:24] <Kilos> meeting monday night all
[06:24] <Kilos> aw forgot to tell maaz to announce it
[06:27] <Kilos> here comes some rain now
[06:29] <magespawn> Hi superfly SmilyBorg
[06:29] <magespawn> cool and wet Kilos
[06:29] <Kilos> lovely lovely
[06:30] <Kilos> listen to the falling rain listen to it fall
[06:45] <Kilos> at last i saw your twin keyboards superfly , need a pic of you to see how many hands and arms you got
[06:50] <superfly> Kilos: hahaha
[06:50] <superfly> morning magespawn
[06:51] <Kilos> maybe you a new octopus mutation
[06:52] <Kilos> i wont bug you any more. have a nice successful day
[06:52] <superfly> thanks Kilos
[06:55] <magespawn> thanks for what? the wishes or not bugging anymore?
[06:56] <Kilos> lol
[06:56] <superfly> the wishes :-D
[06:56] <magespawn> hah
[06:56] <superfly> I just ignore the bugging :-P
[06:56] <Kilos> both man he is a busy fella
[07:05] <inetpro> good morning
[07:06] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[07:06] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[07:06]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:06] <Kilos> ooo 
[07:06] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:06] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[07:06] <inetpro> superfly: ek beat jou amper
[07:07] <inetpro> oops
[07:07] <inetpro> sorry superfly not you
[07:07] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[07:07] <Kilos> haha
[07:07] <inetpro> Kilos:: ek beat jou amper
[07:07] <Kilos> email addy for hire
[07:07] <Kilos> met wat inetpro ?
[07:08] <inetpro> Kilos: ek het skaars die ubuntu-za community gestig by G+ en staan reeds op 18
[07:08] <Kilos> oh dankie vir die uitnodiging
[07:08] <Kilos> het aangesluit
[07:09]  * inetpro het amper van die stoel afgeval toe ek sien jy is ook daar
[07:09] <Kilos> praat jy van die twitter wat ek doen?
[07:09] <Kilos> lol
[07:09] <inetpro> Kilos: ja ja
[07:09] <Kilos> ek moet nog n mooi avatar ding kry
[07:10] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[07:10] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[07:10] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[07:10] <inetpro> Maaz: tx
[07:10] <Maaz> inetpro: Huh?
[07:10] <inetpro> ai!
[07:10] <Kilos> haha
[07:11] <Kilos> Maaz, tx
[07:11] <Maaz> Hmm.. fingers too lazy to type thanks Kilos
[07:21] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:21] <Kilos> Kom groot reen
[07:21] <jrgns> morning Kilos, all
[07:21] <jrgns> it's quite misty / light rain here in rosebank
[07:22] <Kilos> its coming down nicely here at the moment
[07:23] <Kilos> and some thunderbees
[07:23] <Kilos> and no ups
[07:26] <Kilos> lo Vince-0 
[07:40] <Vince-0> Hi!
[07:47] <inetpro> Vince-0: wb
[07:47] <inetpro> Kilos: your ups now completely dead again?
[07:48] <Kilos> i disconnected the internal battery inetpro but i think the wires to the external are too thin so can carry the juice to keep it going
[07:49] <Kilos> so i got it one side for further pondering
[07:49] <Vince-0> thnkz, busy editing discussion notes from last nights hangout - 2hours 21 minutes!
[07:49] <Vince-0> posted the youtube video now
[07:49] <Kilos> whew
[07:53] <Vince-0> ya it was a bit long, we aim to make it more concise and professional
[08:05] <jrgns> is anyone playing ingress?
[08:07] <Vince-0> yar
[08:07] <Vince-0> its a bit slow in Durban
[08:09] <jrgns> yeah, i'm struggling to find portals around here as well.
[08:10] <Vince-0> you can submit portals
[08:10] <Vince-0> and check the ingress intel map site
[08:11] <jrgns> submitted one on my way to work
[08:11] <jrgns> but it takes up to 3 weeks to approve :(
[08:11] <jrgns> will submit a few, though, hopefully they get added
[08:17] <Vince-0> should do, there are some silly ones approved in Durban
[08:25] <jrgns> hehe, kewl
[08:40] <magespawn> do you pay to play?
[08:52] <superfly> magespawn: no, AFAIK
[08:54] <Vince-0> its closed beta - they've sent lots of invites recently
[08:55] <Vince-0> I dunno, its not that much fun - just a novelty 
[08:57] <magespawn> not much info on the website
[08:58] <magespawn> okay i see the point, not going to be able to do much here in Hluhluwe
[08:59] <magespawn> i think my wife wants me to lose weight
[09:00] <magespawn> lunch = 3 small boild potatoes, 1 plum and 1 apple
[09:00] <Kilos> ai
[09:00]  * nlsthzn got an ingress invite but forgot about it >.<
[09:01] <nlsthzn> en nou oom Kilos ?
[09:01] <Kilos> poor magespawn 
[09:01] <nlsthzn> oh ol
[09:01] <nlsthzn> ok
[09:01] <superfly> I'm still waiting for mine :-(
[09:02] <magespawn> not such a bad thing, i think i need to lose weight
[09:02]  * nlsthzn only has dota 2 invites to give away... sorry...
[09:02] <magespawn> i thought flies just sorta snacked on other people's lunch
[09:04] <superfly> magespawn: heh.
[09:04]  * superfly was actually talking about ingress
[09:04] <magespawn> ahh right
[09:05] <nlsthzn> lol
[09:07] <magespawn> could be some fun if you are in a major centre like new york or london'
[09:10] <Kilos> are you fat magespawn ?
[09:10] <Kilos> thats a kinda subtle hint hey
[09:12] <magespawn> well i am 95 kg at the moment
[09:12] <magespawn> by my reckoning i should be between 80-85 kg
[09:12] <Kilos> how tall
[09:13] <magespawn> 5.9
[09:13] <Kilos> hmm connection playing up here seems
[09:13] <Kilos> same as me now
[09:13] <magespawn> strange i know think in kg and feet
[09:13] <Kilos> used to be 5.10
[09:13] <Kilos> shrink with age
[09:13] <Kilos> hehe
[09:14] <Kilos> im 82 kgs
[09:14] <Kilos> yeah the height thing no lekker in metric
[09:14] <Kilos> need a tape measure to check
[09:18]  * superfly has never even touched 70kg
[09:19] <Kilos> 5' 9"
[09:19] <Kilos> i think thats the right way
[09:20] <magespawn> i was 50 kg in std 6
[09:26] <Kilos> ekk superfly when i stopped smoking at 35 i went from 69 to 92 in 5 months
[09:27] <Kilos> so started smoking again and never got under 80
[09:30] <magespawn> gotta go bbl
[09:38] <Kilos> inetpro,  18mm so ver
[09:38]  * Kilos happy
[09:45] <Kilos> bbl
[09:57] <jrgns> i'm 6.2. was 75kg in matric. pushing 95kg 13 years later!
[10:57] <zeref> hi hi
[11:38] <Kilos> inet is jy op die baie sukkel werk toe?
[11:45] <Kilos> inetpro, 
[11:45] <inetpro> eh
[11:46] <inetpro> goeiemiddag Kilos
[11:46] <inetpro> what's for lunch?
[11:46] <Kilos> lol antwoord man
[11:46]  * inetpro is honger
[11:46] <Kilos> i hate curry on bread
[11:46] <Kilos> dit reen boetie
[11:46] <inetpro> reen dit steeds?
[11:46] <Kilos> 22mm al
[11:47] <inetpro> sjoe
[11:47] <inetpro> Kilos: will I have to hunt Squirm down now?
[11:47] <inetpro> I think it's to late for that
[11:47] <Kilos> rofl looks like
[11:47] <Kilos> i got some mafia contacts in natal
[11:47] <inetpro> somebody else that sent the rain, was not him
[11:48] <Kilos> na he was too tired
[11:48] <inetpro> lol
[11:49] <Kilos> eks baie bly oor die reen
[11:50] <Kilos> party plante is giftig vir vee as hulle verlep is
[11:50] <Kilos> lol hiya MrTwinkle 
[11:50] <Kilos> what happened
[11:51] <MrTwinkle> Kilos: registering a nick for a bot
[11:51] <Kilos> server crashed
[11:51] <Kilos> ah
[11:51] <Kilos> hard work hey
[11:52] <Kilos> i had to start on other pc to get it done couldnt just change nicks here
[13:02] <Kilos> inetpro, 30mm maar opgehou nou
[13:03] <inetpro> mooi!
[13:03] <inetpro> so ek moet nou huis toe gaan?
[13:03] <inetpro> voor dit weer begin
[13:03] <inetpro> ?
[13:10] <Kilos> dit drip nou bietjie maar as jy kan gaan gaan
[13:10] <Kilos> dit kan miskien later kwaai afkom
[13:11] <Kilos> inetpro, ^
[13:11] <Kilos> hang net af van die werk
[13:13] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[13:13]  * inetpro sal maar kanse vat later
[13:13] <Kilos> amper sonskyn weer
[13:14] <Kilos> ok ek sal watch vir jou
[13:14] <inetpro> tx
[13:14] <Kilos> np
[13:14] <nlsthzn> so it doesn't seem ZA has enough people for this loco gaming thing happening in Febr...
[13:19] <Kilos> aw
[13:19] <Kilos> how may you need
[13:20] <Kilos> Vince-0, you guys not interested in the gaming against ubuntu mexico
[13:20] <Kilos> nlsthzn, how many
[13:21] <nlsthzn> I don't know uncle Kilos , I haven't gone into details yet but nobody on the mailing list really said yes to it (and I am on Windows and workign that week-end in any case)
[13:21] <nlsthzn> I was going to offer to practice a bit with the guys if they needed people but there is no team as yet
[13:21] <Kilos> the fly said he would try 
[13:21] <Kilos> and kbmonkey
[13:22] <Kilos> what kinda games need teams
[13:22] <Kilos> soccer and rugby
[13:26] <nlsthzn> e-sports is steadily growing. in America they are starting to show more games than footballs in pubs, the jocks are complaining :p
[13:30] <Kilos> lol
[13:31] <Kilos> lets hear what Vince-0 says he is with the durbs linux group . maybe they got keen gamers
[13:32] <Kilos> we actually few here today
[13:33] <Kilos> Banlam, bakuman speel julle nie games nie?
[13:33] <Kilos> and Squirm ?
[13:35] <Banlam> what games?
[13:35] <Kilos> nlsthzn, tell him
[13:35] <Kilos> its a challenge from ubuntu mexico Banlam 
[13:35] <Banlam> ok
[13:36] <nlsthzn> Banlam, http://viajemotu.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/ubuntu-loco-games-2013-1/
[13:36] <Squirm> an me?
[13:36] <Squirm> Kilos: ?
[13:37] <Kilos> you too Squirm dont you wanna take up the challenge from them hombres
[13:37] <Kilos> handele handele ariba
[13:37]  * Squirm looks at Kilos 
[13:37] <Squirm> I want what you're high on
[13:37] <Kilos> hehe
[13:38] <Banlam> never played the game before, but will install it and give it a look
[13:38] <Kilos> i love challenges but i cant play online games
[13:38] <Kilos> please do Banlam 
[13:38] <Kilos> and tune bakuman as well
[13:38] <Banlam> lag to mexico is gonna be painful
[13:39] <Banlam> bakuman's there, he's just keeping quiet for some reason
[13:39] <Kilos> no matter if clint eastwood could sort them so can we
[13:40] <Kilos> maybe bakuman is bang
[13:40]  * Kilos hides
[13:43] <magespawn> hey all
[13:44] <Kilos> hey magespawn we trying to get peeps for the mex challenge
[13:44] <Kilos> you in or what?
[13:44] <Kilos> poor nlsthzn is on his own
[13:45]  * nlsthzn can't make it remember... :p
[13:45] <nlsthzn> so far nobody is in it 
[13:45] <Kilos> ya but you trying to help nlsthzn 
[13:45] <nlsthzn> a little :p
[13:45] <Kilos> i gotta 44 magnum
[13:45] <Kilos> will that help
[13:45] <nlsthzn> sure, if we loose
[13:45] <Kilos> lol
[13:46] <magespawn> i forget when is it again?
[13:46] <Kilos> and a 30.06 so we can hit from far
[13:46] <Kilos> feb magespawn 
[13:46] <Kilos> http://viajemotu.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/ubuntu-loco-games-2013-1/
[13:48] <magespawn> i am not that much of a gamer really
[13:55] <Kilos> aw
[13:57] <nlsthzn> sorting out 4000 odd photos is tedious work
[13:58] <Kilos> eek
[14:24] <zeref> hmmmm
[14:24] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[14:24] <zeref> anybody used ireport before?
[14:24] <zeref> hi Kilos 
[14:24] <Kilos> where you been
[14:28] <Kilos> magespawn, you got 5 mins?
[14:29] <Kilos> if i want to copy files to server from which terminal must i do it
[14:29] <Kilos> this one or the servers one
[14:30] <Kilos> or must it be done without first sshing
[14:32] <Kilos> im looking here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles
[14:33] <Kilos> they say to transfer with ssh and use scp but dont say first ssh or not
[14:34] <Kilos> now the pro will say read or man
[14:34] <Kilos> ai!
[14:36] <inetpro> ai!
[14:37] <inetpro> Kilos: where do you want to copy files?
[14:37] <inetpro> name the source and destination folders
[14:38] <Kilos> i wanna copy archives from here to server inetpro 
[14:38] <inetpro> folders!
[14:39] <inetpro> name the source and destination folders
[14:39] <Kilos> ya but must i first ssh to the server then run the command
[14:39] <inetpro> no
[14:39] <Kilos> and in which terminal then
[14:39] <inetpro> ai!
[14:39] <Kilos> lol
[14:39] <inetpro> Kilos: let's just take it step by step
[14:39] <inetpro> let's step back for now
[14:39] <Kilos> ok so they can ping eat other
[14:40] <inetpro> you want to copy from machine BOB to ANN
[14:40] <inetpro> but on BOB what is the folder name?
[14:40] <Kilos> so i just go scp /var/cache/apt/archives/ miles@192.168.1.2 /var/cache/apt/archives/
[14:41] <inetpro> ahh, you see!
[14:41] <inetpro> that's exactly why I'm asking
[14:41] <Kilos> what?
[14:41] <inetpro> those folders are owned by root
[14:41] <Kilos> ya well i type slow
[14:41] <Kilos> ok so sudo to start here and what at the server side
[14:42] <inetpro> nee
[14:42] <Kilos> ai!
[14:42] <inetpro> 1. by default those files are readable by you (as the user)
[14:42] <inetpro> 2. but the destination is owned by root
[14:43] <inetpro> you can not write to root owned folders
[14:43] <inetpro> so you will have to copy to a temporary folder owned by you
[14:43] <Kilos> like home?
[14:43] <Kilos> no desktop there
[14:43] <inetpro> yebo yes
[14:43] <inetpro> so?!
[14:43] <Kilos> oh temp
[14:44] <inetpro> well temp will/should also work
[14:44] <inetpro> maybe
[14:44] <inetpro> hang on
[14:44] <Kilos> you busy man sort work first
[14:44] <inetpro> ai!
[14:46] <Vince-0> hey hey - sup Kilos , was busy workin yawn
[14:46] <Vince-0> u playing games?
[14:46] <inetpro> Kilos: on BOB type the following:
[14:46] <inetpro> rsync -av /var/cache/apt/archives/ ANN:/tmp/myarchives/
[14:46] <Vince-0> nlsthzn, what games you playing?
[14:46] <Kilos> nope Vince-0 not me we need gamers to take on the mexicans
[14:47] <inetpro> Kilos: then on BOB, after you've logged in with ssh
[14:47] <Vince-0> ha, Linux games I'm guessing
[14:47] <Kilos> http://viajemotu.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/ubuntu-loco-games-2013-1/
[14:47] <inetpro> Kilos: cp -r /tmp/myarchives/* /var/cache/apt/archives/
[14:48] <inetpro> Kilos: oops I mean
[14:48] <Kilos> ok ty inetpro and thats without first sshing?
[14:48] <inetpro> Kilos: then on ANN, after you've logged in with ssh
[14:48] <Kilos> oh my
[14:48] <Vince-0> Kilos, first person shooters are my speciality
[14:49] <Vince-0> but I wonder what the latency would be like to play against Mexico
[14:49] <Kilos> nlsthzn, here is Vince-0 
[14:49] <Kilos> will only find out after trying
[14:50] <inetpro> Kilos: but you could also use scp in stead of rsync... obviously with other parameters 
[14:51] <Kilos> well if rsync will work that great
[14:51] <Kilos> i like rsync
[14:52] <inetpro> if you can login as root on your remote server then you can sync directly from folder to folder
[14:52] <inetpro> but allowing root to login is not very good
[14:53] <Kilos> i think i can once sshed to there
[14:53] <Vince-0> I will make a note of these loco games and post them to the LUG - need to leave now bbl
[14:53] <inetpro> drussell: wb
[14:53] <Kilos> bob is the boss pc here right
[14:54] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[14:54] <Kilos> ty vin
[14:54] <inetpro> ai!
[14:54] <inetpro> why he now gone?
[14:54] <drussell> inetpro: yo!
[14:54] <Kilos> lol
[14:54] <drussell> lots of snow here
[14:54] <Kilos> lo drussell 
[14:54]  * inetpro just wanted to chat with vince
[14:55] <Kilos> maybe hell be back later
[14:55] <Kilos> drussell, you game??
[14:55] <Kilos> http://viajemotu.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/ubuntu-loco-games-2013-1/
[14:55] <Kilos> challenge from the mexicans
[14:56] <Kilos> so inetpro if i first ssh then can sudo -i the server i can copy direct?
[14:57] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:57] <Kilos> may be easier with a stick
[14:58] <drussell> Kilos: hehehe you'll kick ass ;o)
[14:58] <inetpro> Kilos: oops, my fout
[14:58] <inetpro> Kilos: sudo cp -r /tmp/myarchives/* /var/cache/apt/archives/
[14:59] <inetpro> probeer so vêr as moontlik 'sudo -i' vermy 
[14:59] <Kilos> ok
[15:00] <inetpro> tensy jy weet wat jy doen
[15:00] <Kilos> roflmao
[15:00] <Kilos> maar ek moet dit gebruik elke keer met iptables
[15:01] <Kilos> anders can hulle nie mekaar ping nie
[15:02] <Kilos> drussell, what those peeps do when it snows heavy like that. stay home?
[15:02] <drussell> Kilos: yeah often, it just throws the whole country into chaos :o)
[15:02] <Kilos> lol
[15:03] <Kilos> must be hard for the pub crawlers
[15:03] <Kilos> those that live there kinda
[15:03] <drussell> Kilos: find a pub, stay in it :o)
[15:03] <Kilos> lol
[15:06] <Kilos> dankie inetpro :-)
[15:06] <Kilos> hehe
[15:12] <magespawn> sorry Kilos was out 
[15:13] <Kilos> np magespawn 
[15:14] <magespawn> gotta go again see you later
[15:14] <Kilos> go safe
[15:52] <Kilos> cully and lice for supper
[16:01] <nlsthzn> nivce
[16:01] <nlsthzn> love cully and lice
[16:01] <Kilos> lol
[16:02] <Kilos> me too i love good curry with anything rice bread pap spaghetti macaroni whatever
[16:09] <Kilos> even samp and im not a samp fan
[17:14] <Kilos> hi Cantide Mezenir theblazehen 
[17:15] <Cantide> hello :)
[17:16] <Kilos> you not gaming for us Cantide ?
[17:16] <Kilos> http://viajemotu.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/ubuntu-loco-games-2013-1/
[17:16] <Cantide> gaming? >_>
[17:17] <Kilos> neil is trying to get together a group to thump the mexicans
[17:18] <Kilos> dont you read your mails in the lists?
[17:18] <Kilos> oh my
[17:18] <Cantide> oh oh
[17:18] <Cantide> i kinda do see them while i am at work
[17:18] <Cantide> and i was partially aware of what was going on
[17:18] <Cantide> my PC is not game-friendly right now
[17:18] <Cantide> no gfx card
[17:18] <Cantide> so i didn't read into the emails much
[17:18] <Kilos> aw
[17:19] <Kilos> we dont seem to have anyone to take up the challenge
[17:19] <Kilos> will have to be tumbleweed and superfly 
[17:20] <Cantide> superweed '<
[17:20] <Cantide> tumblefly
[17:20] <Kilos> hehe
[17:20] <Cantide> they work well together, it seems
[17:20] <Kilos> they our python kings
[17:21] <Cantide> :)
[17:25] <mazal> Evening all
[17:25] <Kilos> hiya mazal you been scarce
[17:25] <mazal> Rough day oom
[17:25] <Kilos> ai
[17:26] <Kilos> and barry too
[17:26] <Kilos> what happened
[17:26] <mazal> Been in the field battling viruses and user shifting all day
[17:26] <mazal> Barry was off today
[17:26] <Kilos> virii on winsucks
[17:26] <mazal> yep
[17:26] <Kilos> ai they never learn
[17:27] <mazal> Biggest problem is we don't have proper av
[17:27] <Kilos> monday night meeting here hey
[17:27] <Kilos> get avast
[17:27] <mazal> Well I should say our employer
[17:27] <Kilos> best anti for win
[17:27] <mazal> They force what we must use
[17:28] <Kilos> eish
[17:28] <Cantide> Kilos, what time? 19:30 again?
[17:28] <Kilos> avg?
[17:28] <mazal> One of the reasons why we build our own ubuntu server to get updates distributed
[17:28] <Kilos> yip Cantide 
[17:28] <Cantide> cool :)
[17:28] <Cantide> i should make that
[17:28] <Kilos> cancell everything else
[17:29] <mazal> They use Mcafee , which never updates
[17:29] <mazal> So we installed mse and distribute updates via our own server
[17:29] <Kilos> thats no good one needs daily updates
[17:29] <Kilos> mse?
[17:29] <mazal> Yep
[17:29] <mazal> Microsoft security essentials
[17:29] <Kilos> eeeekkk
[17:30] <Kilos> thats worse
[17:30] <Cantide> mse is nice 'o'
[17:30] <mazal> Works sharp for us
[17:30] <Cantide> it's the best one, imho
[17:30] <mazal> Best I've used actually
[17:30] <Cantide> i used it briefly before dropping windows in the recycle bin
[17:30] <mazal> lol
[17:30] <mazal> Oh I wish hey
[17:31] <Kilos> just that first word raises the hair on my arms
[17:31] <mazal> I don't believe I am saying it , but that is one little program where they did good actually
[17:31] <Kilos> haha
[17:32] <Kilos> they have their uses
[17:32] <mazal> The rest was just reshuffling and that brings lots of work
[17:32] <Kilos> i use 98 for fdisking drives and fixing mbr's
[17:32] <mazal> Amazing the amount of little things that needs to be configured for every user :P
[17:33] <mazal> Was very late when I actually got to the office
[17:34] <Kilos> thats life if you dont inherit millions
[17:36] <mazal> Meeting hey , must remember
[17:37] <mazal> Feels like ages since we had the last one
[17:37] <Kilos> yeah a whole month
[17:39] <mazal> Ek gaan bietjie rugby kyk
[17:39] <Kilos> wie speel
[17:39] <mazal> Nee is ou games wat ek op dvd het
[17:39] <mazal> Ek collect mos finals
[17:39] <Kilos> ah ok geniet
[17:39] <Cantide> one game i want to watch again is England vs NZ at the end of last year :)
[17:40] <Cantide> was one of the best games i've seen in a long time
[17:40] <Cantide> also, does anyone here support the EP / Souther Kings?
[17:40] <Cantide> Southern &
[17:40] <mazal> Nope
[17:40] <Kilos> me supports the sharks
[17:40] <mazal> I'm a bulls supporter
[17:41] <Cantide> I support the sharks
[17:41] <Cantide> and anyone who plays against the Kings :p
[17:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:41] <Cantide> because it's not fair how they got into Super Rugby - they need to earn their place like everyone else
[17:41] <mazal> I don't like the way the kings is getting "special treatment" and how the lions was treated
[17:41] <Cantide> exactly my point
[17:41] <mazal> snap
[17:41] <Cantide> :p
[17:42] <Cantide> once they have earned that, i will hold nothing against them
[17:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:42] <Cantide> for the time being, i will enjoy watching them lose :)
[17:42] <Cantide> brb, thirsty as a camel 'o'
[17:42] <mazal> They gonna get killed in S15
[17:42] <mazal> You can't put a team in there that don't even qualify for curry cup
[17:43] <inetpro> whew
[17:43] <Kilos> lo pro
[17:43] <mazal> Hi inetpro 
[17:43] <inetpro> hit
[17:43] <inetpro> ai!
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <mazal> huh
[17:43] <inetpro> hi
[17:44] <Kilos> old age
[17:44]  * inetpro struggled to purchase more bundle on 8ta online system but got it sorted eventually
[17:44] <Cantide> hi inetpro 
[17:44] <Cantide> '<
[17:44] <Kilos> why you struggled inetpro ?
[17:44] <inetpro> at least sim on the mobile with USSD still working perfectly
[17:44] <Kilos> dont worry me
[17:45] <Cantide> i usually just go in and ask them to load it
[17:46] <inetpro> looks like their system has been down the whole day 
[17:46] <Cantide> still using my 60 + 60 though
[17:46] <mazal> What is going on with all the network hey ?
[17:47] <mazal> I hear everyone on Vodacom and MTN complaining about network issues
[17:49]  * inetpro can't survive without the interwebs
[17:54] <Kilos> ya no apt-get
[17:54] <Kilos> whew
[17:54] <Kilos> inetpro, i asked why you battled
[17:55] <Kilos> ek sukkel partykeer
[17:55] <Mezenir> hi all
[17:55] <Vince-0> yo yo
[17:56] <Kilos> Vince-0, dont run away
[17:56] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[17:56] <Vince-0> ill try
[17:56] <Kilos> ^^
[17:56] <Kilos> he wanted to talk to you
[17:56] <Kilos> most likely forgot by now
[17:57] <Vince-0> I'll be around
[18:11] <Kilos> whew poor bill in the lists has a job ahead of him
[18:12] <Kilos> having 2 home partitions and not using the one you want to
[18:22] <nlsthzn> good night all
[18:22] <Kilos> night neilsleep tight
[18:23] <Kilos> you didnt chat to Vince-0  man
[18:23] <Kilos> ai
[18:23] <Kilos> bad as the pro
[18:23] <nlsthzn> eh?
[18:23] <nlsthzn> what I do now :p
[18:23] <Kilos> Vince-0, like gaming
[18:23] <nlsthzn> ah cool
[18:23] <Kilos> likes
[18:24] <nlsthzn> Vince-0, I will catch you tomorrow perhaps ;)
[18:24] <Kilos> looks like you the manager
[18:24] <nlsthzn> this can't end well
[18:24] <Kilos> lol
[18:24] <Kilos> yaya
[18:24] <Kilos> sleep tight nlsthzn 
[18:25] <Kilos> catch you morrow
[18:32] <inetpro> eh
[18:32] <Kilos> hi smile 
[18:32] <Kilos> inetpro, hier is Vince-0 
[18:33]  * inetpro already joined the durban community on G+ and said what there was to say
[18:33] <smile> hi Kilos :p
[18:33] <Kilos> lol
[18:33] <inetpro> anyway good evening Vince-0
[18:33] <inetpro> oh and well done!
[18:34] <inetpro> that really looks like a cool hangout
[18:34] <Kilos> ?
[18:34]  * inetpro quickly scanned through it
[18:34] <Kilos> is it a video site
[18:34] <Kilos> webcams and all or what
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: he talked about it here, I think last night
[18:35] <Kilos> i was sorting ssh and stuff member
[18:35] <inetpro> Kilos: even you talked about it
[18:35] <Kilos> i dont just forget when i dont remember
[18:35] <inetpro> lol
[18:36] <inetpro> 17/01 21:06:38 <Kilos> i spose the pro and fly on the hangout too
[18:36] <Kilos> oh that was because you guys were so quiet here man
[18:36] <inetpro> ai!
[18:37] <Kilos> how you scrolled back so far so quick
[18:37] <Kilos> and if you note the time after 9pm im asleep already
[18:39] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:43] <inetpro> Kilos: here's the link to his posting on g+ https://plus.google.com/101611463436696898503/posts/4fpiT8Khj6D
[18:44]  * inetpro likes the way they had it nicely organised in a online document
[18:45] <Kilos> yeah looks good
[18:48] <Kilos> many months ago i had tinycore sharing 3g here, now with all the ssh and drives repairs ive forgotten how
[18:48] <Kilos> so i go sleep now
[18:48] <Kilos> sleep tight all
[18:49] <Kilos> night goosie
[18:49] <inetpro> ai
[18:49] <inetpro> en nou?
[18:50] <Kilos> hahaha xchat was closed already and i get a popup window ai!
[18:50] <Kilos> had to share that
[18:50] <inetpro> :-)
[18:50] <inetpro> that was to quick
[18:50] <Kilos> lekker slaaap\
[18:50] <Kilos> lol
[18:50] <inetpro> skuus dat ek nie onmiddelik reageeer nie
[18:50] <inetpro> was besig om te lees
[18:51] <Kilos> np man
[18:51] <inetpro> anyway, lekker slaap oom
[18:51] <Kilos> als goed
[18:51] <Kilos> dankie
[18:51] <smile> inetpro: knuffel :)
[18:52] <smile> (drukkie :p )
[18:52] <inetpro> smile: goeienaand
[18:52] <smile> goeienaand :)
[18:52] <inetpro> jy was skaars hierdie week?
[18:52] <smile> ja :(
[18:52] <inetpro> wat's fout?
[18:52] <smile> ek het gewerk vir my gip projek :)
[18:52] <smile> geintegreerde proef
[18:52] <smile> :p
[18:53] <smile> ek het 'n chat client voorgestel :)
[18:53] <inetpro> ok
[18:53] <inetpro> klink interessant
[18:53] <smile> en daar moest nog 'n cursus gemaak word :)
[18:53] <smile> (hoe dit na te maak)
[18:53] <smile> :p
[18:55] <inetpro> smile: waarvoor is dit?
[18:55] <inetpro> by die skool?
[18:56] <inetpro> of wikipedia?
[18:56] <smile> vir die skool :p
[18:57] <inetpro> ahh
[18:59] <smile> now I only need to create a website for the chat client :)
[19:00] <smile> and after that publish the client (maybe server too) online :p
[19:00] <smile> and then I'll get good points
[19:00] <smile> :)
[19:01] <inetpro> sounds like you deserve some good points
[19:01] <inetpro> smile: so what chat cient would this be?
[19:01] <inetpro> client?
[19:01] <inetpro> client*
[19:01] <inetpro> ai!
[19:01] <smile> lol :P
[19:01] <inetpro> irc?
[19:02] <inetpro> or mobile?
[19:02] <inetpro> jabber?
[19:02] <smile> no no :p
[19:02] <smile> proprietairy :)
[19:02] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:02] <smile> with commands like LIST, SEND
[19:02] <smile> :)
[19:02] <inetpro> why?
[19:02] <inetpro> just proove of concept?
[19:02] <smile> yeah
[19:03] <smile> not for daily use actually :p
[19:03] <inetpro> or for real life usage
[19:03] <inetpro> ahh
[19:03] <inetpro> smile: so did they prescribe what technology to use?
[19:05] <smile> yeah :p
[19:05] <smile> we had to use VB.Net
[19:05] <smile> so no, it doesn't run on Linux
[19:05] <smile> :(
[19:07] <smile> Maybe on Wine :DD
[19:07] <smile> I tried to compile wine, and it succeeded
[19:07] <smile> but somehow my old wine version isn't gone :(
[19:11] <inetpro> ok
[19:11] <inetpro> so I guess your teachers don't know about Linux yet?
[19:19] <smile> inetpro: they do :p
[19:20] <smile> but you need Windows to follow the course
[19:20] <smile> :p
[19:20] <inetpro> that's sad
[19:21] <Vince-0> back! 
[19:21] <Vince-0> thanks for the compliments - the LUG here needs some activity so with G+ its easier
[19:24] <inetpro> Vince-0: G+ really makes life easier these days
[19:24] <inetpro> sadly there are still a lot of people not yet on G+
[19:24] <Vince-0> yeah, requires some bandwidth
[19:25] <Squirm> tired
[19:31] <smile> byee :)
[19:32] <smile> inetpro: indeed it is :p
[19:32] <inetpro> Vince-0: not only that
[19:33] <inetpro> some people are still very sceptical of Google
[19:33] <inetpro> with reason
[19:33] <Vince-0> as opposed to facebook? with privacy?
[19:33] <inetpro> you can't always trust these big corporates
[19:33] <inetpro> oh don't even go there
[19:33] <smile> good night! :)
[19:33] <inetpro> goeie nag smile
[19:33] <Vince-0> meh, I have nothing to hide - their free services are worth my privacy
[19:34] <smile> dankie, inetpro :)
[19:34] <inetpro> no honestly, a lot of businesses are even blocking all mail coming from google
[19:34] <Vince-0> ya?
[19:34] <inetpro> well maybe not a lot, but some
[19:37] <inetpro> it's a reality that we still need to recognize
[19:37] <inetpro> and then there are the many multiples of people who believe that facebook is the internet
[19:39] <Vince-0> i deleted my account 
[19:39] <Vince-0> can't log in - so thats a good sign
[19:39] <inetpro> still amazes me how computer illiterate people can suddenly use a computer 
[19:40] <inetpro> thing is, you will never get these people to join on G+
[19:40] <Vince-0> ha
[19:40] <inetpro> but it doesn't really bother me
[19:42] <inetpro> I use both, but I have scaled down on using facebook 
[19:42] <inetpro> basically just have my g+ set to go to twitter and then to fb
[19:46] <Vince-0> aah
[19:51] <inetpro> I don''t know why but I still think that the g+ communities are not yet fully utilised
[19:53] <Vince-0> they're not
[19:53] <Vince-0> I have difficulty using more than one account, like my personal one and the one for the LUG
[19:53] <inetpro> difficulty?
[19:53] <Vince-0> although the LUG "page" has the ability for me to be a moderator
[19:54] <inetpro> I like theb way they did it
[19:54] <inetpro> the way*
[19:54] <Vince-0> I can switch to the LUG community page as a moderator but the scheduled hangout isn't live so I had to recreate the hangout as myself
[19:54] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:55] <inetpro> ok
[19:55] <inetpro> I guess I shall also have to play with that at some point
[19:56]  * inetpro was amazed with the amount of people who joined the ubuntu-za community last night
[19:57] <inetpro> Vince-0: I think you even joined while you were still in the hangout
[19:57] <Vince-0> that was the other guy
[19:58] <inetpro> so I do think it's a very effective tool for communication without being in your face
[19:58] <inetpro> Vince-0: the other guy?
[19:58] <Vince-0> u can switch off video/voice
[19:59] <Vince-0> the other participant dropped off and rejoined with two windows
[19:59] <inetpro> Vince-0: no what I'm saying is that I think you where still in your hangout meeting when I created the G+ ubuntu-za community
[20:00] <inetpro> and then you joined almost immediately
[20:00] <Vince-0> oh yeah
[20:00] <inetpro> you couldn't see that it was me who created it because I used the ubuntu-za profile
[20:01] <Vince-0> ubuntu-za@gmail.com its own log in account or as a moderator for the account?
[20:02] <inetpro> no, just moderator 
[20:02] <inetpro> I actually didn't create that email account
[20:02] <mazal> Sleep well everyone
[20:03] <inetpro> at least I don't think so
[20:10] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos I had 48mm of rain today
[20:10] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[20:14] <inetpro> Tonberry: wb
[20:17] <Tonberry> hi