=== scotty is now known as Guest52087 === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars [00:46] I'm having an issue with the python-qt4 package. It wont install due to dependency on sip-api-8.1, which seems to be some kind of a virtual package provided by python-sip... which is already installed. Does anyone know whats going on? [00:50] mrafcho001: which Kubuntu version and PyQt4 version? [00:51] Kubuntu 12.10 and the package is python-qt4 (4.9.3-4) [00:51] mrafcho001: do you get an error on apt-get update ? [00:52] ovidiu-florin: I do not [00:52] mrafcho001: I have the same setup as you, with python-sip 4.13.3-2 [00:53] I have same version installed as well [00:54] if you haven't forced any package installation, there should be no problem at all [00:54] in case you have a dependency problem try apt-get -f install [00:55] it shoul install any missing dependencies [00:55] On a closer look I see I have version 4.14-5~exp1... hmm [00:56] mrafcho001: maybe you used some PPA to install a newer version of the package [00:57] How can I tell which PPA is the origin of the package? [00:59] mrafcho001: apt-cache policy [01:01] yofel: nice! [01:01] oh how interesting, I think the software I'm trying to install (Calibre) is the one thats breaking everything, since the 4.14-5~exp1 package originates from there, yet it breaks python-qt4 which is required by Calibre. [01:02] yofel: I should remember that command :D thank's [01:02] mrafcho001: how are you installing calibre? [01:03] ovidiu-florin: PPA... ppa:n-muench/calibre [01:03] mrafcho001: tell the PPA owner that he can't just backport SIP, he needs to rebuild everything that uses it [01:04] yofel: meanwhile, any way to remove all packages from that PPA? [01:04] (which IIRC is only python-qt) [01:04] ppa-purge can do that [01:04] yofel: can you give an example of that command? [01:05] uh, I think it's just ppa-purge ppa:owner/ppa [01:05] haven't used it in a long time [01:06] and that restores all changed packages to the version they were before the ppa waas added? [01:06] or removed? [01:06] I mean removes the packages from that ppa? [01:07] " This script provides a bash shell script capable of automatically downgrading all packages in a given PPA back to the ubuntu versions." [01:08] what about the paackages that aren't in the ubuntu ppa's? and that were added from that ppa? [01:09] yofel: I just tried, it and it did not downgrade my python-sip. I ended up manually purging it. [01:09] ovidiu-florin: I don't know [01:09] more interestingly, it did not disable the PPA... I was able to install calibre without re-adding the PPA [01:10] calibre is in the official ubuntu repos [01:10] or in the partner, I don't know exactly [01:11] ovidiu-florin: Good catch! === vivid1 is now known as vivid [02:49] When I connect an external ntfs USB HD, at the very moment I open it with dolphin, the process "mount.ntfs" jumps to 100% IO usage according to "iotop". Is the whole drive being read? and how to avoid this? in ubuntu this problem did not happen with the same laptop / usb hd [02:54] ok, turns out it was nepomuk! [02:56] yeah, nepomuk can go crazy when connecting a USB drive === Jacky_ is now known as Jacky === Jacky is now known as Guest77252 === Guest77252 is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as Jacky === andrew is now known as Guest49880 === Guest49880 is now known as orcris === dragan is now known as Guest98954 [07:06] Does anyone know how to clear the "authorization" data when trying to access a file-share folder? [07:06] If you key in wrong thing, it doesn't seem to let you ERASE it... [07:08] RadSurfer: change owner, but IIRC you need the paswrd to unlock it and change ownershio of file [07:08] What file? [07:08] I just want to delete/reset all data for that "authorization" dialog box for that particular file-share [07:09] oh [07:09] Using Dolphin to drag/drop files; but data that went into initial"Authorization" was all wrong [07:09] now its hung up and won't work... so there must be a way to ERASE that wrong entrys [07:11] Does anyone know what I'm talking about? & how to fix this? [07:16] how do i delete autologin and passwords for websites in Konqueror? [07:16] it keeps logging into ebay with my password. I want to delete that. [07:48] bookmarks shows up in the kmenu and krunner, how do i distable that [07:52] phoenix_firebrd: right click the kmenu icon, click on Application Launcher Menu Settings, deselect the Bookmarks option. similar for krunner, click the settings icon on the far left, deselect Bookmarks [07:57] anyone else seeing X go NUTS and warnings about lsb_release not found even though it exists. Especially X though at 100%? [07:58] tsimpson: there is no such option as Application Launcher Menu Settings, there is one called Application Launcher settings, but that doesn't contain options for bookmarks. The krunner solution works [07:59] phoenix_firebrd: ah, you have the newfangled Launcher, I don't think you can stop it from searching bookmarks there (at least I don't know of one) [07:59] soapee01: 100% of what? [08:00] tsimpson: oops, sorry i should have told you first, i am using kde 4.9.97 [08:01] phoenix_firebrd: yeah, but there are 2 launchers available and I use the "Classic Menu Style" [08:02] phoenix_firebird. I have an 8 core 16gb machine that becomes unusable after 3 days. X goes nuts one one core. [08:02] like the old kmenu [08:02] tsimpson: oh [08:02] machine is alive via ssh phoneix_firebird; however graphics, not so much. [08:02] soapee01: kubuntu version? [08:03] tsimpson: any particular reason why they removed this option [08:03] ? [08:03] precise [08:04] but honestly kde4 has been massively unstable for me [08:04] kde 2 was much better and that was a piece of shit. [08:04] soapee01: using any propitiatory graphics driver? [08:04] oh fuck all that of course [08:04] this isn't 1999 [08:04] soapee01: also is the cpu overclocked? [08:05] no [08:05] i never do [08:05] soapee01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:05] I'm not flooding damn bot [08:05] it's nvidia modest graphics [08:05] let me lspci [08:06] lspci | grep -i nvidia [08:06] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2) [08:07] lsmod |grep nv [08:07] nvidia 11283521 30 [08:07] it's not video though. it's CPU. [08:07] soapee01: do you know that we don't support proprietary stuff here [08:08] soapee01: proprietary driver could crash the xserver and that could lead to the cpu being high. [08:08] phoenix_firebrd: I don't think it was removed, it just never existed [08:09] phoenix_firebrd you know the proprietary drivers for nvidia are in the repos? [08:09] and you know that's not my fucking problem? [08:09] I've been using debian since potato. [08:09] this didn't happen on lucid (kde) on the same machine. [08:09] tsimpson: I am wondering how it could read my bookmarks from my chromium browser [08:09] but ubuntu does so much weird shit [08:09] on the desktop [08:10] it makes it really hard to track shit down. [08:10] soapee01: please calm down and cut the cursing [08:11] Tm_T I'm not upset honestly. [08:11] it's just an issue, and I'm profane. [08:11] soapee01: during installation of the proprietary stuff you should have come across a leagal notice that says canonical doesn't support it [08:12] soapee01: i've logged in too late and have an nvidia. could you make me up to date? can you remember me what is your problem? [08:13] phoenix_firebrd really? [08:13] that is not my problem. [08:13] soapee01: it is simple, uninstall the propitiatory driver and check and if the x crashes [08:13] honestly, if you don't know, don't offer advice phoenix_firebrd [08:14] it's not a driver issue [08:14] soapee01: its Nvidia's problem , you should consult them [08:14] soapee01: cut the attitude please [08:14] no, it isn't [08:14] it's not how the software works. [08:15] I see it on a laptop with nouvoue as well. [08:15] soapee01: If you had tested the system without the propitiatory driver and still the X crashes , then we can help you [08:15] x isn't crashing. [08:16] if it did, I'd have log files [08:16] it just goes to 100% cpu (on one core) [08:17] and it's irritating. I have to restart precise every few days like I did windows 98. [08:17] and I've been using Linux since 1999. This has been the most unstable release I've ever seen. [08:19] I'm also fighting an install on an IBM server (so says my client), but I'll believe that when I get KVM access. [08:26] The display settings application does not save my changes past a reboot, how can I make it do this? [08:34] copacetic: idk for sure these days but it used to be dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [09:43] where do I find the actual files for the desktop backgrounds? [09:53] jussi: ? [09:53] you wanna know where are stored wallpapers ? [09:53] locally or on the system [10:02] Peace-: I figured it, thanks [10:03] jussi: ok [10:08] one day someone will search for jussi's question and hit the irc logs hoping for an answer only to find out Jussi figgured it out... [10:13] rork: just because you lot are too slow :D [10:14] it would be helpfull though if you could share the information ;) [10:20] I suppose: /usr/share/wallpapers [10:20] :) [10:20] ~/.kde/share/wallpaper [10:21] that is locally === FlowRiser is now known as Guest52801 [11:35] salve [11:37] !list [11:37] monia: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [12:28] for dual boot should i install windows or linux first? [12:30] rijack: Windows first, Windows has the habit of overwriting Grub. [12:31] alright do i need to make part table before hand? [12:31] Hi all [12:31] BluesKaj: hi [12:39] Hi Peace- [12:40] rijack: I usually install Win with it's boot and system partitions, then install Linux and partition the drive as I like [12:41] rijack: but for my workflow, Windows in a virtual machine is more than enough [12:57] sbivol: thankyou === sharky1 is now known as sharky === bart_ is now known as bartar3d [13:34] hi all [13:34] hello bartar3d [13:34] hey, monkeyjuice, how are you? [13:35] not to bad , keeping warm [13:35] :-), I try to [13:36] I've ran into some sort of an issue here, concerning mounting drives.. [13:37] and what would that be [13:38] I've got my music collection on external drive, and even though the drive is auto-mounted on boot, no player seems to find it back, and I have to reselect the directory on each boot [13:38] same happens with callibre, when I start it, it seems not to be able to read the library, which also is on an external drive [13:38] they are mounted though [13:38] and accessible from dolphin [13:42] once you reselect it then it works fine? [13:42] yep [13:42] hmmm a bit strange [13:42] bartar3d, have you tried adding the drive to fstab or perhaps linking your external drive music folder to your /home/user dir [13:42] bartar3d, are you sure that's not a powersaving feature? [13:42] bartar3d, because mine does the same thing by design. [13:43] you mean, the powersaving feature invariant? [13:44] bartar3d, ?? [13:44] bartar3d, to test this, start a terminal, go to the right directory and do ls. [13:44] bartar3d, if it returns an answer immediately, then calibre should also work. [13:45] bartar3d, you can tell BluesKaj that he has me on ignore. [13:45] bartar3d, if it doesn't you know that while mounted, it's just in power-saving mode. (this is a hardware feature) [13:46] ok, BluesKaj, you seem to have invariant on ignore... [13:46] ok, well the drive does shut down automagically after the computer is shut down, but it does start again too when I start the computer [13:47] I didn't have this problem on 12.04 [13:47] Now I'm on 12.10 [13:47] bartar3d, can you answer the experiment I devised? [13:48] bartar3d, GUI programs can do all kinds of things to hide reality in their efforts to make it easier for the user (that never works) [13:49] ok , bartar3d , I'll backoff [13:49] invariant, well, right now it does show up imediatly, but I'd better check after a reboot [13:50] bartar3d, it has nothing to do with a reboot. [13:50] bartar3d, it has to do with a lack of diskactivity. [13:50] bartar3d, if you don't write anything to it for a few hours, it will go in sleep mode. [13:50] hmm, and how to keep it active? [13:51] bartar3d, it's still mounted, but any response will take a longer time (30 seconds or so) [13:51] no, that's not the problem, I'm sure [13:51] they were were persistent [13:51] bartar3d, simple: you execute the command while sleep 300; do touch /mnt/foo/bar; done [13:52] bartar3d, unless your hardware is broken, this is simply how it works. [13:52] bartar3d, calibre is not going to behave anything different from other applications. [13:53] then the only reason for my hardware to break, would have been the upgrade, which sounds not quite reasonable [13:53] bartar3d, which is why it's not a likely hypothesis. [13:53] bartar3d, in short... just look at the problem for some time. [13:54] bartar3d, you will either provide evidence contradicting what I said or you will see that I was right. [13:55] ok, maybe it's right, it sounds logical, sleep-mode.. but it does take quite a bit longer to wake pu [13:55] *up [13:56] and it must have been activated by a change in default configuration between 12.04 and 12.10 [14:01] barbar , have you tried linking pertinent files to your ~/ [14:02] No BluesKaj, with my new info, I'll first test things a little, and then try out other solutions, now I need to get some things done [14:12] bartar3d, I added my external drive to fstab by finding the correct device with fdisk -l, then doing sudo blkid to copy the proper string to fstab like so ," UUID=34ab43d0-f91e-4c5e-8e61-c1ccc7306839 /media/External ext4 defaults 0 2 " ...without quotes of course [14:22] BBL [14:30] During boot, I see ................. when grub is supposed to show the bootmenu. How can I make it not show .......... and boot faster? [14:43] Hello! :) [14:44] First time to try KDE for me, hope it's good [14:45] DarkSim, which version are you running? [14:45] Ubuntu 12.04 [14:46] The thing that scared me from trying was that I heard it was a) slow and b) not so pretty [14:47] I've almost tried all DE's there are so I guess it's time to give KDE a roll [14:47] DarkSim: you _really_ should give Kubuntu 12.10 a try, or even 13.04 if you feel adventurous. [14:47] It's hard to downgrade [14:47] last time I upgraded to 12.10 basically everything went crashing down on me [14:48] My BURG, applications, system crashes on everything [14:48] it was a complete mess [14:48] and I'm a newbie too so it's not that nice to troubleshoot literally the whole computer [14:49] So I've tried Unity, Xfce, Lxde, Pantheon and even Gnome 3 [14:49] Let's see if KDE is the miracle and wonder I've been hearing about recently ;) [14:50] I just wish something like KDE or Xfce could generally look like Unity or Gnome 3 when it comes to polish, because honestly, Gnome 3 looks gorgeous to me [14:50] I know, I know, people hate me for even considering Gnome 3 [14:53] Got a little freaked out since I had no start button or anything, thankfully I could find it lol [14:55] have you got kde installed now? [14:55] DarkSim: Take yout time, head to IRC when you have a question, and you'll hopefully find the KDE experience very nice [14:55] sbivol, just a wonder, have you for instance seen the..I think it's called verify window [14:55] you know you start something and it asks for your password, root access and all that [14:56] have you seen that in Gnome 3, that window, the style and all? Can KDE achieve that? [14:57] DarkSim: I've never used Gnome 3, since Gnome 2 I moved on to KDE [14:57] Yeah, but...let me fetch you a screenshot [14:58] Greetings! I saw that amarok 2.7 has been released. How long to you think it will be until it appears in the regular repos for 12.10? [15:02] ScottyK: I think it's been packaged for kubuntu already, try looking for a PPA, like this one: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta [15:02] sbivol, ScottyK: wait [15:03] that has the amarok beta + kde 4.10 rc2 [15:03] ScottyK: 2.7 can be found in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [15:04] Is using programs from the backports "safe", or is it reasonably stable? [15:05] maybe not completely safe, but reasonably stable [15:06] ok, i'll give it a try. thanks! [15:07] ScottyK: I use pre-release versions of KDE for my main computer (even today I upgraded via http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu), and it never lets me down. the Kubuntu packagers do a great job. [15:09] sbivol: please NEVER mention the staging PPA outside -devel. It's not meant for public use [15:09] yofel: sorry, I'll keep in mind. [15:10] (we keep work-in-progress packages there, if you use it while we work on them it's likely that you'll break your system) [15:11] They are keeping all the working versions for themselves!! [15:12] yofel: I've used KDE 4.0. A system can never be more „work in progress” than that :-) [15:13] well, true. Let's rather say that you loose warranty by using it ^^ [15:14] wtf is up with KDE forcing me to have some random web browser on my taskbar? === kotTon_kaNdiy is now known as jimbob6996 [15:14] rekonq [15:14] DarkSim: uh, you can always remove the launcher [15:14] I do, but it comes back [15:14] o.O [15:15] now that shouldn't happen [15:15] As soon as I make a change in Task Manager Settings [15:15] it just pops back up [15:15] DarkSim, if you use 12.04 without any updates, like the backports, that's a bad idea. [15:15] Like in Windows 7 when it's pinned to the taskbar for quick launch [15:15] I'm not using a backport [15:15] I just use the latest 12.04 [15:15] yeah, but removing the launcher isn't supposed to bring it back [15:15] DarkSim, then do so immediately. [15:16] invariant: 4.8 is still supposed to work right [15:16] yofel, do you backport all fixes? [15:16] It also randomly puts two windows together on top of each other on the taskbar as well [15:16] So much problem within the first minutes, sigh [15:17] invariant: well, it has the fixes that are in 4.8.5 + some cherry-picked ones. Of course not everything that's in 4.9 [15:17] DarkSim, for your own health, go with the above referred backports repo. [15:18] DarkSim: ok, *that* is kind a known issue (on some systems) [15:18] *kind of [15:18] 4.9 might help there. Not sure as I don't use the default task manager [15:18] Bit sad it coughs up so many problems all at once [15:18] no other DM has given me these kind of problems that fast [15:20] DarkSim, we already know how much it sucked in 4.8. [15:21] Or rather, I know. yofel needs some convincing. [15:21] * yofel didn't say that 4.9 doesn't work better [15:22] I don't quite get this attitude where stable software is more buggy. [15:22] I'm not accusing anyone [15:22] It's as if developers have no confidence that later versions are not superior to previous versions. [15:22] If you don't believe in yourself, why should anyone else do that then? [15:23] I'm sorry, ok [15:23] I think he's talking to me [15:24] I also run Debian Stable still on some desktop system, but it's quite unbearable. [15:24] DarkSim, it's not you , just ignore the and don't feed the troll [15:24] Cant I bind the start button to Meta/Super? [15:24] well, that has 4.4 IIRC - which *is* old (has a working kdepim suite though) [15:24] I don't want to mash half my keyboard to bring up the start menu [15:24] yofel, I don't use KDE on that machine. [15:25] DarkSim: you'll need to use meta/super+some_other_key [15:25] DarkSim: in KDE meta/super is just a modifier, not a shortcut by itself [15:25] That's not good :/ [15:25] DarkSim, because of some silly technical excuse which KDE developers make your windows key cannot be used to bring up the start menu. [15:26] They say that because QT simply doesn't work like that, that they don't support it. [15:26] :/ [15:26] However, QT is open-source and they control the whole operating system. [15:26] This is #kubuntu afterall. [15:27] Meanwhile, I am the troll according to BluesKaj... [15:27] kubuntu tries to stick to KDE for such things (even if I agree that it's annoying) [15:27] yofel, I wonder why.... [15:28] yofel, perhaps because they have no idea about software development? [15:28] yofel, the Kubuntu people, that is. [15:28] Can I add a caption to the start button as well? [15:28] invariant: I'm a kubuntu-dev myself. We simply try to stick to KDE as soon as possible - randomly patching KDE is already done by other distros [15:28] *as close as [15:29] yofel, there are lots of alternative designs possible too to make it easy to use the start menu with the keyboard. [15:29] Perhaps you are busy fixing all the bugs you have introduced before. [15:31] sticking close to kde has the advantage of being able to blame them for most of those, but we're a small enough team that we're busy even without trying to track down every single bug we see [15:31] So far KDE looks better than I expected, but it's customization is mildly speaking a pain, worth noting [15:32] Good day! Somebody please take a look at this screenshots of KDE 4.10 B1: [15:32] http://imgur.com/a/QS5Gs [15:32] See the transparency glitches? [15:32] This is from kubuntu 13.04 [15:33] expected or should I report a bug? [15:34] john__: 13.04 support is in #ubuntu+1, but the only system I'M seing that on is a 12.04 VM (kvm) running 4.9.97 - all other systems are fine. [15:35] john__, there's a large update/upgrade in the works today , have you done so yet ? [15:35] yes, seems so, minutes ago [15:35] distro-upgrade [15:35] john__, also 13.04 support is at #ubuntu+1 [15:36] I have a general idea of most DE's now [15:36] It's hard to pick a favorite [15:37] okay, tkx [15:37] I was missing some toolbar and menu options before the upgrade and they're restored now [15:37] DarkSim: from my experience one ends up picking the one that gets in the way the least when working [15:38] john__, ^ so there may be some otherfixes that may affect you but unfortunately a reboot is required [15:39] I know people want me to die in a fire, but Gnome 3 has given me the most pleasant experience yet [15:39] The biggest surprise really [15:39] Xfce is the best DE for pure Windows-ish workstyle and is very blunt, not that beautiful [15:40] KDE comes close, but I still like Xfce just a little itty bitty bit more [15:40] Cinnamon is really cool, but it crashes ALL the time [15:41] my 7 year old son is a big fan of KDE. On his side of the kid's computer, he has his desktop loaded with widgets.. [15:41] All my opinions, so I respect your disrespect [15:43] If I could create something which looks like Gnome 3 in KDE it would be a instant win, because I like customization, but the general layout and polish on the UI which Gnome 3 is just so.. wow [15:44] my mouse just locked, brilliant [15:44] LOL [15:45] sometimes you can unlock it with the exc key [15:45] but not often [15:46] gnome-issue, i guess [15:48] not sure about it being a gnome issue [15:48] it's been happening to me off and on since the upgrade to 12.10 [15:50] though I've narrowed it down to when the priview image comes up with a mouse over [16:33] BBL, gotta push some snow [16:41] snow :O [16:47] has anyone tried kubuntu in samsung ativ smart pc pro? [16:48] what is the command to edit text file inside terminal ? [16:50] soee: nano [16:54] to end text file? [16:54] are you talking about exit? [16:57] Kottizen, thank you [17:11] and kubuntu 13.04 is available for DL too [17:16] jimbob6996: there's no Kubuntu 13.04 yet [17:17] Tm_T : No, the official 13.04 will be released on April 2013 [17:17] riccardone: indeed [17:17] it's still in beta [17:18] oops alpha :)) [17:21] yeah, it's in alpha release [17:23] Kubuntu locked my mouse so I had to log out, smooth :/ [17:24] raring ringtail [17:24] instead my wireless mouse go wrong ... [17:24] I don't even know the meaning of "raring" and "ringtail" [17:24] :P [17:24] make sure the batteries are good [17:25] the new ubuntu code name [17:26] I think he meant the words as a definition [17:26] I know it's the code name. I just don't understand the words :D [17:26] Exactly. [17:27] ring tail is what they used to call raccoons :) [17:27] Can I edit the windows buttons and all that in KDE? [17:27] Because I don't like the default art style [17:28] You can either try changing Oxygen options or switch theme to fit your needs. [17:29] in system settings? [17:30] Yes. === abbas is now known as Guest36479 [18:06] moin === aswin is now known as zero_coder === kotTon_kaNdiy is now known as jimbob6996 === jalcine_ is now known as Jacky [19:14] hey jacky [19:19] that was odd [19:19] but expected [19:23] Hey there. I'm new to linux and the folder structure... root is on a SSD, my /home on a HDD. I want a VM image to live on the SSD. Where to put it? I'd opt for /opt/vbvm - but /usr/vbvm or /var/vbvm seem to be viable options too... What's your opinion? [19:33] exit [19:33] :quit [19:33] gaaa [19:34] part [19:43] * Wizard yawns [19:44] * Jacky glances at the Wizard. [19:44] question: how do you guys post these messages? [19:45] sbivol: /me [19:45] * sbivol found something new about IRC [19:45] ah, brilliant :) [19:45] thank you, Wizard [19:46] sbivol: Now you are ready to join #kubuntu-offtopic ;) [19:46] haha [19:46] Jacky has already done it. [19:47] * sbivol apreciates Wizard's irony [19:47] ;D [20:06] madconqueror: If you want to follow Linux conventions, put it under /usr/local/vbvm. That's your playground. === FtMan_ is now known as FtMan [20:06] /usr (USR = Unix System Resources) is for distro use. /usr/local is for sysadmin use. [20:08] madconqueror: /opt is OK, too, instead of /usr/local. Use one or the other consistently, though. [20:08] DarthFrog: I always thought /usr comes from „users” o_O [20:08] sbivol: Most people do, I imagine. [20:08] same here [20:09] daemon = Disk And Environment MONitor. === folorn is now known as folorn[A] [20:09] * folorn[A] is now away - Reason : im away from da keyboard hit me up later [20:16] DarthFrog: Thank you, you have been truly helpful (Sorry, if this is not reflected in my IRC commands, it has been a long time, and I do not use Apples anymore) === len is now known as Guest55744 [20:18] madconqueror: have you tweaked your system to use a SSD properly? http://apcmag.com/how-to-maximise-ssd-performance-with-linux.htm [20:18] SSDs are fundamentally different from spinning rust. [20:19] how come? [20:20] One has rotating platters with moving r/w heads, the other is addressable static memory. One has virtually unlimited r/w cycles, the other has limited r/w cycles. Treating a SSD drive like a regular HD can cause it to wear out prematurely and impinge performance. [20:24] OK, this is private usage. It's an i5-3210 on ivy that came with 2x2 GB RAM which I replaced with 2x4 GB RAM (1066 CL7...bla) and used it for surfing. [20:25] when i wanted to install x DB which demanded 4 GB of RAM I realized one DIMM had died. [20:25] now it has 1 8GB CL9 [20:26] sufficiefect for the VM to provide 6 GB to the VM I want to live on my SSD [20:26] the x DB will only be used for traiining [20:27] would you rather install real world DBs on rust or on SSDs? [20:29] I have this issue in KDE 4.9.98 – every notification appears too much to the right, half of it being beyond the visible area. When I try to drag it to its place, Plasma freezes. [20:30] madconqueror: I have my system and my home directory on a 240 GB SSD. But I also have a 1 TB HD mounted under my home directory for storage. [20:31] backup drive, darth? [20:31] madconqueror: For a database, where r/w access times are critical for performance, SSD's are ideal. [20:31]