[03:21] <chilicuil> nlsthzn: hi, good day, I'm part of the crown who are organizating the loco gaming, I know you were on #ubuntu-mx asking for some info about the event =), well, currently it's sheduled to play 3 games, wesnoth, urban terror & assaultcube. the wesnoth & assaultcube games will be hosted by the ubuntu-mx team & UT for ubuntu-co (colombia), you can participate (till a maximum of 10 players by team) in 1, 2 or all the games, To do that, add the te
[04:28] <nlsthzn> chilicuil, missing the last part of your message :)
[04:30] <chilicuil> nlsthzn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550961/ =P
[04:32] <nlsthzn> thanks chilicuil 
[04:34] <chilicuil> np, hope you can join us =)
[05:35] <Kilos> morning all
[05:52] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[05:56] <Cantide> hello :)
[05:56] <Cantide> thanks for the meeting reminder
[05:56] <Kilos> np thats my job
[05:56] <Cantide> '-';;
[05:56] <Cantide> my job right now is to finish breakfast
[05:56] <Kilos> lol the pro nailed me to it
[05:57] <Cantide> hahaha
[06:02] <Kilos> only escape is moving to the happy hunting grounds
[06:02] <Cantide> happy hunting grounds?
[06:02] <Kilos> heaven
[06:04] <Cantide> oh :p
[06:04] <Kilos> hehe
[06:18] <Kilos> other place is much to hot
[06:19] <Cantide> some of us like the heat :)
[06:19] <Kilos> eeeek
[06:19] <Cantide> hahahaha
[06:20] <Kilos> hows things Cantide 
[06:20] <Cantide> not bad :p
[06:20] <Kilos> now your tummy  is full
[06:20] <Cantide> i have more to study -.-v
[06:20] <Cantide> yeah
[06:20] <Kilos> good
[06:20] <Cantide> full of pizza
[06:20] <Kilos> what now?
[06:20] <Cantide> i have a 20-page assignment to do before the end of February
[06:20] <Cantide> so i have to get cracking on that
[06:20] <Kilos> ah
[06:20] <Cantide> the first step is to read 300 pages :-S
[06:21] <Kilos> eeek
[06:21] <Cantide> i will begin that today
[06:22] <Cantide> and then review another 300 pages
[06:22] <Cantide> so in total about 600 pages to study :<
[06:22] <Cantide> then get writing :/
[06:22] <Kilos> of what?
[06:22] <Cantide> 3 novels and some poetry
[06:22] <Kilos> for what is this
[06:22] <Cantide> one 5-page essay on each
[06:23] <Cantide> for my final English nonsense before i can graduate
[06:23] <Cantide> i think they lost my exam
[06:23] <Cantide> because i demanded a remark and they gave me the run around
[06:23] <Cantide> UNISA <3
[06:23] <Kilos> ai
[06:23] <Kilos> go for it
[06:23] <Cantide> yeah
[06:24] <Cantide> a few weeks of hard study now, and then i can rest :)
[06:24] <Kilos> no rest till you passed everything then short rest till next studies
[06:24] <Kilos> 1 week onna beach
[06:25] <Kilos> hi digigram 
[06:26] <Cantide> Kilos, haha
[06:26] <Cantide> next studies might only be next year
[06:26] <Kilos> lol
[06:26] <Cantide> because my degree will be complete
[06:26] <Kilos> nono
[06:26] <Cantide> and then the next step is honours
[06:26] <Cantide> yesyes :D
[06:26] <Cantide> i can't study while i move to a new country and settle, so i will be forced to take a break for a bit
[06:26] <Kilos> no matter theres LPI and python and lotsa other useful stuff to study
[06:27] <Kilos> where you going
[06:27] <Kilos> taiwan?
[06:27] <Kilos> korea
[06:27] <Kilos> hmm
[07:06] <Kilos> hi acherv theblazehen 
[07:39] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[07:41] <Cantide> oh, sorry - I was afk -.-v
[07:41] <Cantide> Korea :p
[07:41] <Kilos> np
[07:41] <Cantide> LPI?
[07:42] <Kilos> Maaz, LPI manual
[07:42] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual
[07:42] <Kilos> im working through the server guide slowly
[07:43] <Kilos> so not chatting much
[07:51] <Cantide> Kilos, nice :) i've saved a copy of the guide
[07:51] <Cantide> i will read it when i have time :)
[07:51] <Kilos> ok
[07:52] <Kilos> thats actually a good manual. if you can remember what you read
[07:52] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[07:52] <Mezenir> hi kilos
[07:52] <Mezenir> how are you ?
[07:52] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[07:53] <Mezenir> good thanks
[07:56] <Cantide> I'd like a similar one for Ubuntu :) that would be useful
[09:51] <zeref> oh
[09:59] <zeref> anybod heard of: http://shoppingemall.co.za/index.php
[10:08] <Kilos> screen working zeref ?
[10:39] <zeref> Kilos: got new screen
[10:40] <Kilos> 21"
[10:49] <Cantide> that site is weird
[10:49] <Cantide> .co.za domain, but prices in dollars
[10:49] <Cantide> how odd
[10:55] <zeref> indeed
[10:55] <zeref> Kilos: yes
[10:55] <zeref> spoke to the guy via skype
[10:55] <Kilos> nice
[10:55] <zeref> one price made me o0o0
[10:56] <zeref> http://shoppingemall.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=22_54&products_id=281&osCsid=fa55e3f865df921498751fa11d2f1af6
[11:00] <zeref> had a look at a 23"
[11:00] <zeref> its huge
[11:02] <Kilos> lol
[11:03] <Kilos> they for old peeps with bad eyes man
[11:04] <Kilos> Maaz, convert 69 USD to ZAR
[11:05] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[11:05] <Kilos> hmm
[11:10] <Kilos> Maaz, exchange 69 USD to ZAR
[11:10] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[11:42] <not_found>  69 USD to ZAR
[11:42] <not_found> R612.8  (South African rand)
[11:42] <not_found> silly copy passte
[11:43] <Kilos> hi not_found ty
[11:43] <not_found> no worries :)
[11:43] <Kilos> thats a good price for a 21" screen
[11:43] <not_found> wolfram alpha ftw
[11:43] <Kilos> i dunno whats up the python bots
[11:43] <Kilos> they used to work
[11:47] <not_found> it happens
[11:59] <inetpro> good afternoon
[12:00] <inetpro> 20/01 06:30:13 <chilicuil> nlsthzn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1550961/ =P
[12:00] <inetpro> more readable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1551425/plain/
[12:01] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^ there you have the details
[12:01] <Kilos> hi inetpro ty
[12:01] <Kilos> ai
[12:01] <inetpro> Maaz: site http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ up
[12:01] <Maaz> inetpro: *blink*
[12:01] <inetpro> Maaz: site pad.ubuntu-uk.org up
[12:01] <Maaz> inetpro: Sorry...
[12:01] <inetpro> hmm...
[12:02] <inetpro> oops
[12:02] <inetpro> Maaz: is pad.ubuntu-uk.org down
[12:02] <Maaz> inetpro: Yes, http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ is down (Server is not responding)
[12:02] <Kilos> we dont make mistakes
[12:02] <Kilos> only when we do something wrong
[12:02] <Kilos> hehe
[12:02] <inetpro> Kilos: sure thing
[12:03] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry
[12:03] <Kilos> oh inetpro ty those commands worked like a dream
[12:03] <inetpro> commands?
[12:03] <Kilos> rsync and cp to server
[12:03] <inetpro> ah you mean the rsync stuffs
[12:03] <Kilos> ya ya
[12:04] <inetpro> np
[12:04] <Kilos> hey fix Maaz and QA
[12:04] <inetpro> fix?
[12:04] <Kilos> they cant do the currency thing anymore
[12:04] <Kilos> one burps and the other says The tubes are clogged!
[12:06] <inetpro> Maaz: google 1 usd in rands
[12:06] <Maaz> inetpro: "XE: (ZAR/USD) South African Rand to US Dollar Rate" http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=ZAR&To=USD :: "Convert United States Dollar to South African Rand | USD to ZAR ..." http://themoneyconverter.com/USD/ZAR.aspx :: "Convert South African Rand to United States Dollar | ZAR to USD ..." http://themoneyconverter.com/ZAR/USD.aspx :: "Exchange Rates
[12:06] <Maaz> Graph (South African Rand, US Dollar) - X-Rates" http://www.x-rates.com/graph/?from=ZAR&t…
[12:06] <Kilos> it used to work with convert or exchange
[12:07] <inetpro> Kilos: I know
[12:07] <inetpro> but you can't blame the bot all the time
[12:07] <Kilos> fix it
[12:07] <inetpro> it's the other side where things change
[12:07] <Kilos> do they fetch that info from some site?
[12:07] <inetpro> yebo yes
[12:07] <inetpro> like the weather
[12:07] <Kilos> oh no
[12:08] <inetpro> due to a lack of proper standards on these things
[12:08] <inetpro> everyone love reinventing the wheel
[12:09] <inetpro> and on top of that, when they've reinvented the wheel they love doing it again
[12:10] <Kilos> hahaha
[12:11] <Kilos> we need to advertise the
[12:11] <Kilos> um
[12:11] <Kilos> saying
[12:11] <Kilos> if its not broke dont fix it
[12:11] <Kilos> not_found, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1551425/plain/
[12:12] <Kilos> dunno how one will get past the time diffs though
[12:12] <Kilos> inetpro, 46mm rain total so far
[12:13] <Kilos> and others are washing away
[12:17] <inetpro> Kilos: that's nice
[12:17] <inetpro> still less than me though
[12:18]  * inetpro goes to check the latest
[12:19] <Kilos> hehe hoe grooter die sonde hoe grooter die genade
[12:21]  * inetpro now had 63mm since Friday
[12:21] <Kilos> lekker
[12:21] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[12:21]  * inetpro het die genade nodig
[12:21] <Kilos> dubbletjies gaan baljaar
[12:22] <Kilos> helfde van die plot is dubbltjies en boete bos
[12:22] <Kilos> en rug te seer om te grou
[12:48] <not_found> thx uncle Kilos saw the links
[15:21] <Kilos> hmm found himself again i see
[15:30] <theblazehen-phon> Hi all
[15:30] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[15:30] <theblazehen-phon> How are you ?
[15:30] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[15:32] <theblazehen-phon> Good
[15:32] <Kilos> i dunno if you were still here last night. them mexicans are 8 hours behind us
[15:33] <theblazehen-phon> What happened ?
[15:33] <Kilos> wesnoth, urban terror & 
[15:33] <Kilos> assaultcube.
[15:33] <Kilos> those are the games
[15:33] <theblazehen-phon> Did it happen already ?
[15:33] <theblazehen-phon> Nvm
[15:33] <Kilos> nope
[15:34] <Kilos> lol
[15:34] <theblazehen-phon> I did a dumb
[15:34] <Kilos> what?
[15:34] <theblazehen-phon> Nvm
[15:34] <Kilos> thats never mind hey?
[15:35] <theblazehen-phon> Yes
[15:35] <Kilos> ah ok
[15:35] <theblazehen-phon> Yea
[15:36] <Kilos> where is your school?
[15:36] <Kilos> excuse my nosiness
[15:36] <theblazehen-phon> In centurion
[15:37] <theblazehen-phon> No problem
[15:37] <Kilos> ah you a gautengalenger
[15:37] <theblazehen-phon> Yep :)
[15:41] <theblazehen-phon> Where you from ?
[15:41] <Kilos> pta
[15:41] <theblazehen-phon> Ok 
[15:41] <Kilos> born here grew here went to natal for many years and ended back here
[15:42] <theblazehen-phon> Haha ok.
[15:49] <theblazehen-phon> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14415881/how-to-pair-socks-from-a-pile-efficiently
[15:52] <Kilos> hehe
[15:52] <Kilos> hi charl__ 
[15:52] <charl__> hi Kilos 
[15:52] <theblazehen-phon> Hi charl_
[15:52] <charl__> good afternoon/evening all
[15:52] <charl__> Maaz: coffee on
[15:52]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:53] <charl__> hi theblazehen-phon 
[15:53] <charl__> haven't been around for a while, been down with a cold, almost recovered from it now
[15:53] <charl__> how's it going?
[15:56] <Kilos> charl__, how does a cold affect your pc and fingers
[15:56] <charl__> Kilos: hehe :) i just didn't feel like doing much i guess
[15:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl__!
[15:56] <charl__> Maaz: thanks!
[15:57] <Maaz> charl__: Sure
[15:57] <Kilos> lol
[15:57] <Kilos> must been a bad cold
[15:57] <Kilos> you got a long tail
[15:57] <charl__> lol, yeah apparently one user is using charl and another charl_ so i got charl__
[15:57] <charl__> irssi does that automatically
[15:58] <Kilos> told you to register your nick
[15:58] <charl__> it just uses my unix username
[15:58] <Kilos> no one ever listens to me
[15:58] <charl__> it's interesting, somebody from south africa (i can see from the last known IP address) registered charl and haven't used it for 20 weeks
[15:58] <Kilos> they stole my bots nick as well
[15:58] <charl__> but freenode keeps all nickname registrations on
[15:59] <charl__> i don't care really, most of the networks i use don't even allow nickname registration
[15:59] <Kilos> ya they registered my bots nick as well
[15:59] <Kilos> swine
[15:59] <charl__> the person using charl currently (without identifying to nickserv) is a swede and charl_ is used by somebody behind a bnc
[16:00] <charl__> the benefit i have is i always irc from charl.eu so you know it's me regardless of the nickname :)
[16:00] <charl__> that was really the way irc was supposed to work in the first place
[16:00] <charl__> nickserv was a hack that was added in later
[16:00] <Kilos> oh ya
[16:01] <charl__> besides, like i said, most of the networks i use don't even have a nickserv
[16:01] <charl__> but you know which is me regardless of the network due to the hostname
[16:02] <charl__> hi zeref 
[16:02] <charl__> Kilos: so how have you been keeping?
[16:03] <Kilos> good ty charl installed server on other pc and been trying to learn iptables and ssh
[16:03] <charl__> nice
[16:03] <charl__> some powerful stuff, ssh and iptables
[16:03] <charl__> i am still amazed at how versatile ssh can be
[16:03] <Kilos> yip
[16:04] <charl__> iptables is also pretty powerful
[16:04] <charl__> especially when you start with nat routing and such
[16:04] <Kilos> actually very lekker using ssh
[16:04] <Kilos> just would like to see a gui there now and again
[16:04] <charl__> a long time ago i used to play with radvd and stuff for ipv6, which replaces nat routing
[16:04] <charl__> also quite good entertainment
[16:05] <Kilos> whenever i try something new all the guys sigh  and hide
[16:06] <charl__> i am watching a video about a dutch guy who collects old gaming consoles, he has an amazing collection already
[16:06] <charl__> http://tweakers.net/video/6995/gathering-of-the-tweakers-consoleverzamelaar-jva18.html
[16:08] <charl__> heh he has stuff i didn't even knew existed :D
[16:17] <Kilos> im watching the sardine runs in sa
[16:17] <Kilos> on tv3 
[16:26] <Kilos> one of natures great events its classed as
[16:28] <Symmetria> my god
[16:28] <Symmetria> I found somewhere that still uses iburst
[16:31] <theblazehen-phon> Is that still a thing ?
[16:35] <Symmetria> yes, the guest house Im staying in uses it :(
[16:36] <Symmetria> hahahahahahaha omg my dad is pissed at me, this company was sending him emails in formats he couldnt open
[16:36] <Symmetria> so he told them to send it to me but didnt tell me I'd be getting shit from them
[16:36] <Symmetria> so I got spam from them as far as I was concerned
[16:36] <Symmetria> so I sent back this really snotty reply that said "Don't spam me, its illegal under the ECT act, you're south african, and I'll nail your spamming ass to the wall"
[16:36] <Symmetria> ;p
[16:36] <Symmetria> ROTFL
[16:37]  * Symmetria thinks its very funny
[16:45] <Mezenir> disowned
[16:49] <Symmetria> hahaha then my dad sends me an email zomg, they are saying you verbally abused them, how can you be so nasty, blah blah blah
[16:49] <Symmetria> Im like, thats what happens when I get b.s 
[17:25] <charl__> nn all
[17:48] <smile> :d
[17:50] <Cantide> '-'/
[17:51]  * Kilos waves
[17:51]  * smile waves back
[17:51] <smile> :)
[17:51] <smile> I don't think you will see me waving, Kilos :p
[17:51]  * Cantide tsunamis
[17:51] <smile> I'm too far away ;)
[17:51] <Kilos> haha
[17:51] <smile> Cantide: :o
[17:53] <Cantide> >.<
[18:02] <Kilos> naand magtie 
[18:03] <magtie> Hi Kilos
[18:20] <Kilos> aw
[18:21] <Kilos> see inetpro we need a greeter bot here
[18:21] <inetpro> ai
[18:21] <inetpro> wat's fout?
[18:21] <Kilos> 20.15 ^^
[18:22] <inetpro> Kilos: nee man
[18:22] <Kilos> wat nee?
[18:22] <Kilos> thats a lost member
[18:22] <inetpro> somtyds wil iemand ook net kyk hoe dinge werk
[18:22] <inetpro> sonder dat iemand inmeng
[18:22] <Kilos> ja maar as niks werk nie loop hulle
[18:22] <Kilos> sjoe ek sukkel
[18:22] <inetpro> lol
[18:23] <inetpro> net gou kinders in die bed kry
[18:23] <Kilos> k
[18:36] <Kilos> Cantide, you here?
[18:36] <Kilos> was it you asked how to turn off pc from cli months ago?
[18:37] <Cantide> i am here >_>what's up?
[18:37] <inetpro> ok Kilos, what's up doc?
[18:37] <inetpro> what's happenin in ubuntu-za land?
[18:37] <Kilos> someone had some hassles months ago and couldnt shutdown from cli and all i had was sudo reboot
[18:38] <Kilos> just tried sudo shutdown now on server
[18:38] <Kilos> failed then looked more and sudo poweroff works
[18:38] <inetpro> Kilos: shutdown -r now
[18:38] <inetpro> Kilos: man shutdown
[18:38] <Kilos> lol the suggestions were -P and -h
[18:38] <Kilos> hehe
[18:38] <inetpro> -r to reboot
[18:39] <inetpro> -h to halt
[18:39] <Kilos> sudo reboot works kiff
[18:39] <Cantide> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shutdown-ubuntu-linux-computer/
[18:39] <inetpro> the shutdown command is better
[18:39] <Kilos> shutdown now stops something but doesnt switch off
[18:40] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73696/what-is-the-proper-terminal-way-to-shutdown
[18:41] <Kilos> sahame i been tapping the power button once then it actually goes through the motions
[18:41] <Kilos> shame as well
[18:42] <inetpro> ai!
[18:42] <Kilos> haha
[18:42] <Kilos> it actually does it nicely
[18:42] <Kilos> just a quick tap
[18:43] <Kilos> now poweroff works too and i will try the -h option
[18:43] <inetpro> Kilos: and if your box is locked away in a different room?
[18:44] <Kilos> well duh. why you think i been googling
[18:44] <Kilos> you know i hate google
[18:44] <inetpro> lol
[18:44] <Kilos> nou lag hy
[18:44] <Kilos> ai
[18:45] <Kilos> anyway back to greeter bot
[18:45] <Kilos> we need one
[18:45] <Kilos> we lost stepan now
[18:45] <inetpro> Kilos: what I need is a new car
[18:45] <Kilos> greeter bot is cheaper
[18:45] <inetpro> these things are so damn costly it's not funny
[18:46] <Kilos> yip cars arent for everyone anymore
[18:46] <Kilos> hard to fit family on scooter though
[18:47]  * inetpro is looking for a 7 seater to replace a very old Opel Zafira
[18:47] <Kilos> that car you were here with?
[18:47] <inetpro> just about impossible to find something decent for a good price
[18:47] <Kilos> get n kombi
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: at what price?
[18:47] <Kilos> or hiace
[18:48] <Kilos> um
[18:48] <Kilos> try one of the neighbouring states
[18:48] <inetpro> ai!
[18:48] <Kilos> lol
[18:48] <Kilos> they got lotsa cheap vehicles
[18:49]  * inetpro needs a Sesfikile
[18:49] <Kilos> they were expensive when they were still here
[18:49] <Kilos> whats that
[18:49] <inetpro> 16 seater
[18:49] <Kilos> hiace
[18:49] <inetpro> no more hiace here
[18:49] <Kilos> land ponde
[18:50] <inetpro> there's a quantum
[18:50] <Kilos> mini bus they are called
[18:50] <inetpro> starting at R368,900
[18:50] <Kilos> eeek
[18:51] <Kilos> you gonna have to get another job
[18:51] <inetpro> then there's a Innova starting at R276,200
[18:51] <Kilos> 2 jobs will cover vehicle costs but maybe not doctor bills too
[18:53] <Kilos> thats 7 times what i sold my house for in 98
[18:53] <Kilos> 88
[18:53] <inetpro> then there's the Avanza starting at R160,100
[18:54] <Kilos> what is it
[18:54] <Kilos> what make
[18:54] <inetpro> and that one doesn't compare with the zafira
[18:54] <inetpro> Kilos: these are all Toyota
[18:54] <Kilos> ah toyotas are quite good nowadays
[18:54] <inetpro> gimme something else to look at
[18:55] <inetpro> those are all to pricey
[18:55] <Kilos> merc makes one
[18:55] <Kilos> hehe
[18:55] <Kilos> methinks around 500k
[18:55] <inetpro> jaja
[18:56] <Kilos> how about hyundai
[18:56] <inetpro> H1?
[18:56] <Kilos> look on bidorbuy
[18:56] <inetpro> that's a very nice vehicle
[18:56] <inetpro> but is over 300K
[18:56] <Kilos> ai
[18:56] <Kilos> try tata
[18:57] <inetpro> Kilos: which one?
[18:57] <Kilos> have they got minibusses
[18:57] <Kilos> or panel vans
[18:58] <Kilos> im not sure what modern vehicles are called
[18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: I can get a 38 seater from Tata
[18:59] <Kilos> wow
[18:59] <Kilos> then you can charge bus fair
[18:59] <Kilos> price?
[18:59] <inetpro> or a 27/28 seater
[18:59] <inetpro> only on Request a Quote basis
[18:59] <Kilos> no 16 seeters?
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: don't think they have
[19:00] <Kilos> ya well fone them tomorrow
[19:00] <inetpro> lol
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: my family is not that big
[19:00] <Kilos> tell them you want discount for the extra 10 seats you arent gonna use
[19:01] <Kilos> you can use it for school sports trips etc
[19:01] <Kilos> and charge the school
[19:01] <inetpro> lol
[19:01] <Kilos> yous are only 4 in the family
[19:02] <Kilos> why you want a 16 seater
[19:02] <Kilos> ai
[19:02] <inetpro> no I need a 7 seater
[19:03] <inetpro> 4 kids plus the ouma
[19:03] <inetpro> very tough predicament
[19:03] <Kilos> and a big boot then too
[19:03] <inetpro> yep
[19:03] <inetpro> exactly that
[19:03] <Kilos> oumas cart lotsa padkos
[19:03] <inetpro> lol
[19:04] <inetpro> and /me is tired of old vehicles 
[19:05] <inetpro> costs to much to keep on the road now
[19:05] <Kilos> been there done that
[19:05] <inetpro> so please give me a solution
[19:05] <Kilos> new ones cost more
[19:05] <Kilos> check service fees
[19:06] <Kilos> coupla grand per service
[19:09]  * inetpro ponders keeping the old one and just getting a small new vehicle as a 2nd car
[19:10] <Kilos> yip
[19:10] <inetpro> so which do I choose
[19:10] <inetpro> ?
[19:10] <Kilos> lol
[19:10] <inetpro> choices, choices,..
[19:10] <inetpro> tough predicament
[19:11]  * inetpro hates having to choose
[19:11] <Kilos> i had good service from vw's
[19:11]  * inetpro must choose wisely
[19:11] <Kilos> yip making skuld is frightening
[19:11] <inetpro> exactly
[19:11] <Kilos> tell your wife to decide
[19:11] <inetpro> haha
[19:11] <Kilos> then you got someone to blame
[19:11]  * Kilos hides
[19:12] <inetpro> you better hide very far away
[19:12] <Kilos> lol
[19:12] <inetpro> and don't let the kids choose either
[19:12] <Kilos> go flip a coin by her and say she just decided
[19:12] <Kilos> hehe
[19:12] <inetpro> my daughter likes the Chrysler Grand Voyager
[19:13] <Kilos> lovely vehicle
[19:13] <Kilos> not cheap
[19:14] <Kilos> and V8's eat juice
[19:14] <inetpro> Kilos: that is only R464,990 for the cheapest model
[19:14] <Kilos> rofl
[19:14] <inetpro> and she wanted the full house one 
[19:15] <Kilos> tell your daughter she must stand at the gate every day for 4 years and sell chickens and eggs
[19:15] <inetpro> think it was the one going at R659,990
[19:15] <Kilos> kids have rich tastes
[19:16] <inetpro> that was when I was looking for a cheap fiat yesterday :-)
[19:16] <Kilos> hehe
[19:16] <Kilos> my sis rides a small uno
[19:16] <Kilos> very light on juice
[19:16] <inetpro> ai
[19:16] <inetpro> you still get them even?
[19:17] <Kilos> ?
[19:17] <Kilos> i think they got new names too
[19:18] <inetpro> like a Fiat Pop
[19:18] <inetpro> not very practical
[19:19] <Kilos> things are hard with a family
[19:19]  * inetpro loves the look and feel of the Kia Picanto
[19:20] <inetpro> but they have no ABS
[19:20] <Kilos> so what
[19:20] <inetpro> compared it to the Ford Figo which has ABS at about the same price
[19:20] <Kilos> cant you drive
[19:20] <inetpro> haha
[19:20] <Kilos> or you also got a checkers license
[19:20] <inetpro> ai!
[19:21] <Kilos> lol
[19:21] <Kilos> abs is a modern thing
[19:21] <Kilos> and there are more road accidents now with all the modern stuff
[19:21] <inetpro> it sure is nice to have
[19:21] <Kilos> spose more vehicles is why
[19:22] <Kilos> man
[19:22] <Kilos> you dont even feel its not there if you can drive
[19:22] <Kilos> go practise onna skid pan
[19:23] <Kilos> im not a ford fan
[19:24] <Kilos> fabrikaat onbekend reparasies daagliks
[19:24] <inetpro> ai!
[19:24] <inetpro> so what do you like?
[19:25] <inetpro> please don't tell me VW
[19:25] <Kilos> or first on rubbish dump
[19:25] <Kilos> i tust vw
[19:25] <Kilos> lol
[19:26] <inetpro> Polo Vivo?
[19:26] <Kilos> got over 250 thou on 16v jetta and over 500 thou on first gli
[19:26] <Kilos> s/justtrust/g
[19:26] <Kilos> ai
[19:26] <Kilos> s/just/trust/g
[19:27] <Kilos> you dunno the song
[19:27] <Kilos> vee double you and me , we all believe in quality
[19:28] <inetpro> they not the same any more
[19:28] <Kilos> prove it
[19:28] <Kilos> what changed
[19:29] <inetpro> "When VW dropped the iconic CitiGolf from its line-up in 2010, the company’s marketing bigwigs ingeniously replaced it with a rehashed fourth-generation Polo dubbed Polo Vivo"
[19:29] <inetpro> http://topcar.co.za/road-tests/comparisons/toyota-etios-vs-rivals/
[19:29] <Kilos> used to be a matter of pride with them
[19:30] <inetpro> VERDICT: "...the Ford Figo wins. Yes, it’s the cheapest car in this company but it’s also the most versatile, covering all key areas with aplomb."
[19:31] <inetpro> anyway, now you know what I did yestedray
[19:31] <Kilos> topcar did a test for a tv show and didnt cart a family around in it for a few years
[19:31] <Kilos> lol
[19:31] <smile> byee :)
[19:31] <Kilos> toods smile 
[19:31] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:31]  * inetpro head is still spinning from the multitude of options
[19:31] <smile> thanks Kilos :) good night
[19:31] <inetpro> bye smile
[19:31] <smile> bye inetpro, lekker slaap
[19:32] <smile> :)
[19:32] <Kilos> tough decision inetpro and you stuck with it for years
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: exactly
[19:32] <inetpro> but I tired of sukkeling
[19:33] <Kilos> get 5 scooters
[19:33] <inetpro> brilliant idea
[19:33] <Kilos> small kids on backpack
[19:34] <inetpro> Kilos: and ouma making the wheelies
[19:34] <Kilos> rofl
[19:34] <Kilos> my mom used to ride with me on the bmw and moto guzzi
[19:34] <inetpro> sjoe
[19:36] <Kilos> my dad had his own 125 scrambler thing but she wouldnt ride with him
[19:36] <Kilos> said he was too wintie
[19:55] <Kilos> sjoe late again. night all sleep tight
[19:55] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Meeiting tomorrow night all. no excuses not to be here
[19:55] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Meeiting tomorrow night all. no excuses not to be here
[19:55] <Kilos> ai
[19:56] <Kilos> meeting too