| allee | Riddell: updated bzr of *kscreen. Packaging needs some final touches, but would be good to update the pkgs in the experimental repo. Not sure if experimental is a good idea for wikipage [1] above. | 00:51 |
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| allee | Night | 00:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | any one has some spare time to teach me packaging? | 01:16 |
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| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1070764] Qt 4.8.1 does not render fonts correctly @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1070764 (by Egon A. Rath) | 04:55 |
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| jussi | good morning ladies and gentlemen! | 07:03 |
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| afiestas | When is the freeze for "Not adding new packages" ? | 09:52 |
| afiestas | aaah I'm such am ess with schedules | 09:52 |
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| xnox | afiestas: feature freeze, but one can ask for feature freeze exception. | 10:33 |
| afiestas | xnox: March 7 is it? | 10:33 |
| xnox | sounds about right =) | 10:35 |
| afiestas | oks, then I have time to finish my stuff :p | 11:01 |
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| Riddell | yofel: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.98 | 12:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: fancy reviewing some packages? | 12:14 |
| Riddell | or apachelogger? | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | I guess | 12:14 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: simon needs it https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages | 12:15 |
| apachelogger | dunno why but that sounded dirty | 12:16 |
| Riddell | you and your mind | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: doc's gfdl licensing not mentioned in d/copyright | 12:21 |
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| mikhas | Quintasan_, about your failing test: I'll do a point release later on, to fix that warning. | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: cmake/FindOpenCV.cmake appears to be lgpl | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | additionally the otherwise bsdness of the files in there are not reflected in d/copyright | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it appears simon data does not contain a whole lot, what do you think about moving the actual data to the simon package and rename the package to simon-l10n? | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | otherwise goody | 12:30 |
| Peace- | Riddell: i have a question , with dolphin you can browse your phone via bluetooth . and infact bluetooth icon appears on systray but it doens't work | 12:34 |
| Peace- | i mean i have my nokia here with bluetooth activated but it fails to connect with kubutnu | 12:34 |
| Peace- | i have managed to connect it btw but i had to install extra packages | 12:34 |
| Peace- | is that normal ? | 12:36 |
| Riddell | Peace-: what did you have to install? | 12:40 |
| Peace- | Riddell: bluetooth bluez bluez-alsa bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer bluez-utils libbluetooth3 python-bluez libmulticobex1 libobexftp0 libopenobex1 obex-data-server obexd-client python-obexftp obexfs | 12:41 |
| Peace- | i am not sure that everyone are needed | 12:41 |
| Peace- | but with these i can use my phone now | 12:41 |
| Peace- | directly from dolphin | 12:41 |
| Riddell | hmm, that suggests we're missing something from our default install | 12:42 |
| Peace- | i am on 13.04 | 12:43 |
| Peace- | but i had that problem even before | 12:43 |
| Peace- | Riddell: btw i can see my phone without it but it fails on browsing after i have written the password it just fails | 12:44 |
| Riddell | bluetooth is not something I have much use for so not something I tend to test | 12:44 |
| Peace- | Riddell: well i don't use it too but because of my flash card has some problem i had to use yesterday | 12:45 |
| Peace- | and the only way to access was bluetooth | 12:45 |
| Peace- | but it did not work :D | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | wammu won't recognize my motorola phone, the usb bus/device , even tho lsusb lists the phone | 12:45 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: tried with bluetooth ? | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | Peace-, no bluetooth devices | 12:46 |
| Peace- | ah | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | or adapters | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | I just want to transfer picture to the pc ...don't need it as a modem | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | pictires | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | bah | 12:48 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: :P http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/21/plasma-desktopz24941.png | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | Peace-, and? | 12:51 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: i had the same problem usb conncection was not working with bluetooth worked :D | 12:51 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: your phone supports taht or not ? | 12:52 |
| Peace- | if it supports it you can buy a bluetooth for few bucks | 12:52 |
| Peace- | i guess i have spent 5 euros | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | Peace-, I just use W7 to do it | 12:53 |
| Peace- | ah i have not it | 12:54 |
| Peace- | just kubuntu | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | I've had this phone for a while , it should work with a usb connection , others have been able to make it work on linux | 12:55 |
| Peace- | mm | 12:56 |
| Peace- | lsusb ? | 12:56 |
| Peace- | lsusb | grep -i moto | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | lsusb shows the phone , it's the wammu app that doesn't see it | 13:01 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: you can't mount it like extranall driver ? | 13:03 |
| Peace- | external | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, never tried | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | i can't right now ...wife has the phone at work | 13:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: isn't it great how every cmake file uses a slightly different variation of the BSD? | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | it's what you get for using BSD | 13:08 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: fancy reviewing another? | 13:11 |
| apachelogger | I guess | 13:14 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: oyranos in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages is needed a check | 13:17 |
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| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: is the debian control file created manually for every package? | 13:43 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: yes, but usually from a template in dh_make or copied from another package | 13:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: Till now i am doing that, but can this be automated? | 13:45 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: dh_make or cp are your friends | 13:46 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: what do you package? | 13:47 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: dh_make only creates the shell | 13:47 |
| Riddell | yeah, if your package has any unusual needs you need to add them yourself | 13:47 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: ok | 13:48 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~murthy | 13:50 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: I am using the ppas for learning purpose | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: code copies ftw | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | also I should mention that the code copy of elektra contains autotools build sytem files which are licensed GPL which is not mentioned and no complete copy is present | 13:55 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: excellent, want to become an elite kubuntu packager? | 14:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: thats the main reason i am here | 14:00 |
| Riddell | awesome :) | 14:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: I am a fan of the packaging team | 14:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Right now my aim is to release packages before suse | 14:01 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ^ | 14:02 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: ^ | 14:02 |
| Riddell | woo | 14:02 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: got any favourite packages or needing suggestions? | 14:03 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: please suggest | 14:03 |
| Riddell | looking at http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/uehs/no_updated.html I see libkolabxml needs an update | 14:03 |
| Riddell | I'm not convinced that site is a complete list though | 14:04 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: I will do it all | 14:04 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: let me know if you need any help | 14:06 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: sure | 14:07 |
| Riddell | afiestas: do you think kscreen is ready for ubuntu archive or keep it in experimental PPA for now? | 14:17 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1102407] missing 32 bits compatibility package on amd64 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1102407 (by Jérôme) | 14:23 |
| afiestas | Riddell: by the time of 13.04 it should be rock solid | 14:31 |
| afiestas | so maybe you want to consider having it by default | 14:31 |
| afiestas | we can always remove it if by the first beta it is not stable | 14:31 |
| Riddell | ok I'll throw it up into the archive | 14:32 |
| Riddell | and test it more when I get home with a projector there | 14:32 |
| afiestas | wokz, make sure to have updated jqson, that's all it requires | 14:32 |
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| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1102407] missing 32 bits compatibility package on amd64 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1102407 (by Jérôme) | 15:25 |
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| Riddell | ok I'll throw it up into the archive | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | did I mention that qt5 has builtin json? | 15:44 |
| Riddell | you did not | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | it does | 15:45 |
| Riddell | that is useful | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | I then tried to turn phonon into json | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | I failed | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | nevertheless very handy to have builtin json | 15:45 |
| Riddell | um, is there much need of json in multimedia? | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:45 |
| Riddell | maybe some interesting ascii art video output? | 15:45 |
| Tm_T | yes please | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | youtubes has json api | 15:46 |
| Tm_T | there's never too much ascii | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | (or xml, tho xml is crap according to Linus...) | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | so if you were to build a multimedia application that natively integrates with youtube and friends you kinda want json | 15:47 |
| Riddell | allee: "Fix/find correct name for my abbrev. GPL-KDEeV" I think that abbreviation is fine, but I think when I package I just am lazy and call it GPL-2+ | 15:50 |
| Riddell | allee: "how to treat GPL-kdeev?" why does it need treated any differently? | 15:50 |
| allee | Riddell: ^^ is no longer a topic. I'm not sure that a GPL copying file in the source is enough for GPL-KDEeV license header | 15:52 |
| allee | s/not sure/sure/ | 15:52 |
| kubotu | allee meant: "Riddell: ^^ is no longer a topic. I'm sure that a GPL copying file in the source is enough for GPL-KDEeV license header" | 15:52 |
| Riddell | allee: uploaded to raring! (and experimental PPA) | 15:54 |
| allee | Riddell: Great!! Thx | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | allee, Riddell: FWIW IMHO with gpl-kdeev you'd need a gpl2 and 3 copy | 15:57 |
| Riddell | no you wouldn't | 15:59 |
| Riddell | it's just the same as gpl2+ | 15:59 |
| Riddell | where a copy of gpl2 serves the lowest common denominator | 15:59 |
| Riddell | interesting https://projects.kde.org/news/179 Comparison of Oxygen Font with Ubuntu Font | 16:07 |
| flow__ | Riddell, indeed | 16:09 |
| flow__ | Riddell, oxygen fonts seem much more eye-friendly on that whiteish background | 16:10 |
| apachelogger | just a so much better font it is | 16:12 |
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| BluesKaj | trying out Qt theme with 13.04 and KDE 4.10 ...close to the edge of crashing each app when launched :) | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | qt theme? | 16:18 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger, yeah installed from the repos | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | what is a qt theme? | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | wrong choice of words , system settings> application appearance > style> widget style | 16:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok if I upload oxygen fonts to the archive? | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | yes | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | as long as you upload the right version :P | 16:32 |
| Riddell | version 3 in-progress | 16:32 |
| Riddell | 0.3 | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | is that approved by upstream? | 16:32 |
| Riddell | by nuno it is | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | fair enough then | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | anyone have an idea if kio-upnp-ms is even supported? | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | or is actively maintained | 16:34 |
| Riddell | I suspect not | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | bug 975327 | 16:34 |
| ubottu | bug 975327 in hupnp (Ubuntu) "libhupnp 1.0.0, cagibi >=0.2, kio-upnp-ms, all needed in repositories" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975327 | 16:34 |
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| Tm_T | 4.9.98 ready for testing? | 17:27 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: it's out | 17:28 |
| Riddell | more testing welcomed | 17:28 |
| Riddell | why hello gspr | 17:48 |
| gspr | :P | 17:48 |
| Riddell | gspr: what can kubuntu do for you today? | 17:49 |
| gspr | KDE bug 306186 seems to affect Kubuntu's kde-workspace 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.2, and is quite an annoying problem in my opinion. Upstream's patch applies cleanly against 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.2 and fixes the problem (at least as far as I can tell for after testing for a few days) | 17:49 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 306186 in core "Password Dialog stays on top of all windows after unlocking the desktop" [Major,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306186 | 17:49 |
| gspr | Riddell: I'd like to do a little bit for Kubuntu (although the work has been done upstream), but I don't really know how to proceed. | 17:50 |
| gspr | How do I go about suggesting upstream's patch for inclusion into (k)ubuntu? | 17:50 |
| gspr | It's a simple patch, and the problem is well-understood (and very annoying) | 17:50 |
| Riddell | gspr: well you've just done the suggesting :) | 17:51 |
| Riddell | but the packaging is the next step | 17:51 |
| Riddell | also checking with upstream | 17:51 |
| gspr | OK | 17:52 |
| Riddell | gspr: know anything about packaging? | 17:52 |
| gspr | Riddell: Yes, I package stuff for my PPA every now and then, but I seldom get to hear criticism - meaning I probably do a lot of things wrong :) | 17:52 |
| Riddell | gspr: actually first step is to check for bugs in launchpad or report one if it doesn't exist | 17:53 |
| gspr | Riddell: I've got a patched version of kde-workspace in my PPA, which simply adds the upstream patch to debian/patches and appends its name to debian/patches/series. That builds without warnings (as far as I can see) and solves the problem (as far as three-four days of testing suggests) | 17:53 |
| Riddell | yeah that's about all that's needed for a technical solution | 17:54 |
| Riddell | but this is a stable release update so needs some beurocracy | 17:54 |
| Riddell | so needs a bug in launchpad | 17:54 |
| gspr | Riddell: Right, that makes sense. Upstream has the bug as relating to "component kwin", while I patched kde-workspace in (k)ubunut's case. So I just report a bug against kde-workspace on launchpad then? | 17:55 |
| gspr | Riddell: Also, for the bug report, should I describe/summarize the problem and upstream analysis, or is linking sufficient? In this case, the upstream discussion is short and clear. | 17:56 |
| Riddell | yes, kwin is part of kde-workspace | 17:56 |
| gspr | ah, right, ok | 17:56 |
| Riddell | summarise it yes, just a sentence needed | 17:56 |
| gspr | OK. I'll check if it's already reported, and report it otherwise. | 17:56 |
| Riddell | and if you can work out how to link the bug to the upstream bug that's bonus points | 17:56 |
| gspr | hehe ok | 17:56 |
| gspr | It doesn't seem to be at bugs.launchpad.net yet, so I'll report | 17:58 |
| gspr | Riddell: Is this OK? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1102540 | 18:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1102540 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Screen unlock password dialog stays visible and on top forever after unlocking" [Undecided,New] | 18:06 |
| Riddell | gspr: good good | 18:07 |
| Riddell | gspr: click Also affects project to link it to upstream | 18:07 |
| gspr | Riddell: Ah, ok. Thanks the help :-) | 18:07 |
| gspr | Riddell: I'll also add: Thanks for the work you've put into KDE on ubuntu! I see your name all over the place, so I can only imagine you've done a lot :-) | 18:13 |
| Riddell | gspr: ah but now you're here you can do a lot too :) | 18:14 |
| gspr | Riddell: I don't have time to contribute with anything beyond the occasional bug report, sadly. :-/ | 18:15 |
| Riddell | that's plenty enough | 18:16 |
| Riddell | gspr: so for this update you need a debdiff, get the original package and get the package with patch and changelog added and run debdiff on the .dsc files | 18:16 |
| Riddell | and attach that to the bug | 18:16 |
| Riddell | then subscribe ubuntu-sru | 18:16 |
| Riddell | and poke me into uploading it | 18:17 |
| Riddell | I'm going to pump some iron in the gym! back soon | 18:17 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1102540] Screen unlock password dialog stays visible and on top forever after unlocking @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1102540 (by Gard Spreemann) | 18:17 |
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| cyphermox | shadeslayer: hey | 20:56 |
| shadeslayer | hi cyphermox | 20:59 |
| cyphermox | how are you? :) | 20:59 |
| shadeslayer | I'm good :) | 21:02 |
| shadeslayer | cyphermox: how do you do? | 21:04 |
| cyphermox | not bad | 21:04 |
| cyphermox | shadeslayer: I had a work item to speak to you about the KDE networkmanagement app VPN plugins | 21:05 |
| cyphermox | shadeslayer: remember what it might be about? :) | 21:05 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes :) | 21:06 |
| shadeslayer | it was that while the VPN plugins are listed, they might/might not be installed | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | so when a user clicks on a plugin that is not installs, we launch the package manager and prod the user to install it | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | kind of like what we do with gstreamer plugin search | 21:07 |
| shadeslayer | ( play an avi file -> can't find the gst plugin, search repo and prompt user to install it ) | 21:08 |
| soee | screen block is broken in RC3 ? | 21:18 |
| shadeslayer | cyphermox: it was also decided that it would be better to have this in nm itself | 21:19 |
| cyphermox | ah | 21:20 |
| cyphermox | I'm not sure it's a matter of a list so much though | 21:20 |
| shadeslayer | matter of a list? | 21:20 |
| cyphermox | well | 21:20 |
| cyphermox | ideally you should be able to add a new VPN plugin without having to modify NM code | 21:21 |
| cyphermox | AFAIK it would go kind of like the gst plugin, the UI should handle it, and just have enough logic to know to search for any package starting with "network-manager-(vpn)" for instance. | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | I see, well, the use case we got a couple of months back ( right before UDS ), was that someone was trying to use one of the VPN plugins via the KDE Frontend, but that plugin was not installed | 21:22 |
| cyphermox | right | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | cyphermox: I think I proposed that initially | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | but then someone said that it makes more sense to do it in NM itself | 21:22 |
| cyphermox | I guess I could have said that | 21:23 |
| cyphermox | it's just that the choice of package manager then makes more sense in the UI I guess | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | I don't remember :D | 21:23 |
| cyphermox | so no point in changing NM just to add a regex or whatever to list the names of packages for NM :D | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | iirc it was you who said that you could make a packagekit interface | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | s/make a/use the/ | 21:24 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "iirc it was you who said that you could use the packagekit interface" | 21:24 |
| cyphermox | by that I mean that you might be using KPackageKit or whatever, where on Gnome it would be something else | 21:24 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 21:24 |
| cyphermox | still it would really have to all be done in the UI | 21:25 |
| cyphermox | I think | 21:25 |
| cyphermox | but fair enough -- at least now I know that it's as I thought, about how to make it easier to install the VPN plugins | 21:25 |
| shadeslayer | okay :) | 21:25 |
| shadeslayer | how about I write an email to the kde nm developer so that we can discuss this? | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | will CC you and JontheEchidna ( qapt/muon dev which is what Kubuntu uses by default ) | 21:27 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1102540] Screen unlock password dialog stays visible and on top forever after unlocking @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1102540 (by Gard Spreemann) | 21:28 |
| cyphermox | shadeslayer: that would be awesome | 21:28 |
| shadeslayer | cool :) | 21:28 |
| cyphermox | so now I can mark off the "talk to..." work item :) | 21:28 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 21:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: reading the latest email on k-c-d it seems to me that colord is a better choice for users at the moment because it has CUPS support | 21:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: good thing that's what we use | 21:57 |
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| yofel | shadeslayer: I've seen that active stuff being installed a few times already - haven't managed to reproduce it | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | well | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | <hhhzzzain> i just run apper, that is not the programs i used to installed some alarm clock, different interfance. | 23:49 |
| yofel | hm | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | assuming that means what I think it means | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | <hhhzzzain> it was more like ubuntu software center since the icons for applications was showing. | 23:50 |
| shadeslayer | and that & | 23:50 |
| shadeslayer | er ^ | 23:50 |
| yofel | well, just going from that apt history page | 23:51 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 23:51 |
| yofel | he added he ppa and tried to install kalarm | 23:51 |
| yofel | ah no | 23:51 |
| shadeslayer | ppa? | 23:51 |
| yofel | he installed kubuntu and tried to install kalarm. Apt then messed the 4.9.2 -> 4.9.4 deps up | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 23:52 |
| yofel | that's what it looks like to me at least | 23:52 |
| * yofel tries to reproduce that | 23:52 | |
| shadeslayer | note how it also removed muon | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | anyway, I've gtg take a break or I'll melt down | 23:53 |
| yofel | heh, go ahead :) | 23:53 |
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