| dangersalad | So what would be my best route for an app using local storage? Does the HTML5 local storage work? Is there some kind of SQL? | 04:04 |
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| dangersalad | I am new to QT altogether, though I am familiar with C++ and well versed in JS | 04:05 |
| chriadam | using QML? http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5.0/qtquick/qmlmodule-qtquick-localstorage2-qtquick-localstorage-2.html | 04:11 |
| dangersalad | OK, so I guess I have another question about QML{,Quick} and QT. Is QML the main target for the phone OS? | 04:15 |
| dangersalad | I had the impression that the QML was just for interface design with some light functionality | 04:16 |
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| dangersalad | I guess I am just trying to find a good path to start with | 04:16 |
| chriadam | i don't know the answer to that, sorry | 04:16 |
| dangersalad | I guess I am having trouble finding what to move on to after the tutorial app from ubuntu's page. | 04:22 |
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| dangersalad | I am having trouble getting the new style tabs to load. I have set the ItemStyle.class to "new-tabs", but they are just blank.... | 06:10 |
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| voodootru | Hello, I see that Ubuntu Phone is finally supposed to be released in February? I was wondering if there is a beta or any way to try it out now? | 15:00 |
| * popey points voodootru at the /topic ☺ | 15:01 | |
| smartboyhw | voodootru, no:P | 15:01 |
| voodootru | cool, thanks guys. Guess I just have to sit tight :S | 15:01 |
| dangersalad | any reason openDatabaseSync would not be defined? | 15:36 |
| dangersalad | I am trying to use SQLite to save data | 15:37 |
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| auronandace | !info simon | 20:15 |
| ubot5 | Package simon does not exist in quantal | 20:15 |
| zetheroo | prices in the US are super duper :D | 20:38 |
| zetheroo | oops .. wrong window :P | 20:38 |
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| zetheroo | wondering why the storage spec requirements for the Ubuntu Phone OS install is so high | 20:55 |
| popey | zetheroo: they are? | 20:55 |
| zetheroo | well for the "High-end Ubuntu "superphone"" it's 32GB | 20:56 |
| popey | that'll be normal by 2014 | 20:56 |
| ajalkane | zetheroo: I guess it's because they intend to include the whole Ubuntu OS there for docking purposes. | 20:57 |
| zetheroo | of course if your installing numerous desktop applications you may need this kind of space ... | 20:57 |
| zetheroo | yeah, but even the full Ubuntu OS does not need anywhere near 32GB ... | 20:57 |
| zetheroo | does anyone know how much room Ubuntu Desktop actually takes on a HDD after a vanilla install? | 20:58 |
| ajalkane | zetheroo: of course not, but a buyer would be pretty disappointed buying a "superphone" where the OS takes most of the "available storage" | 20:58 |
| zetheroo | true | 20:58 |
| zetheroo | but I would imagine the actual install of Ubuntu would take up less than 4GB ... no?! | 20:59 |
| ajalkane | I'd imagnie so also... but thinking in powers of two, 16GB is the next lowest, and if the OS munches 4 gigs of that, it might not be a pleasant surprise. With 32 you'd still have 28 gigs left, so it's proportionally speaking less of an annoyance | 21:00 |
| zetheroo | ok, supposedly Ubuntu Desktop takes about 3GB and an additional 1.5GB is needed for updating etc ... | 21:01 |
| zetheroo | so in theory if one is not going to be installing dozens of desktop applications, 16GB could work pretty well ... | 21:02 |
| ajalkane | But really, we're talking about a "superphone" here. 32 gigs of storage place was not much even a year ago. Much less a year from now. | 21:02 |
| zetheroo | and actually Linux applications tend to be pretty lightweight as well ... | 21:02 |
| zetheroo | yeah true | 21:02 |
| ajalkane | Apps are not the only thing people want to use their phone for. The majority of content is what users want to store there. Videos, pictures etc. | 21:02 |
| zetheroo | yes - but if the phone has an SD slot you could store your media and data on there ... and leave the onboard memory for running the OS and apps ... | 21:03 |
| ajalkane | I somehow forgot music. I still see people lamenting how they can't store their whole music collection on a phone :) | 21:03 |
| zetheroo | I wonder if it will be possible to install the apps to SD | 21:03 |
| zetheroo | LOL | 21:03 |
| ajalkane | The specs say 32GB eMMC + SD, so apparently they don't care how the storage is provided | 21:04 |
| zetheroo | my need for this Ubuntu Phone OS is pretty straight forward with not much media or data storage ... basically just a tool for a sys admin | 21:04 |
| ajalkane | O guess all you need then is the "entry level Ubuntu smartphone" ;) | 21:05 |
| zetheroo | well I would not mind coming into work and docking my phone in and working on that :D | 21:05 |
| zetheroo | since I work with Ubuntu on a Thinkpad anyhow atm | 21:06 |
| zetheroo | would be pretty nifty to leave the laptop at home and just bring the "superphone" to work - hehe | 21:06 |
| ajalkane | Yeah, it does promise some sweet possibilities. | 21:07 |
| ajalkane | But we'll see how it materializes | 21:07 |
| zetheroo | it would be a shame to buy an expensive high-end phone and then find out that Ubuntu Phone is not ported to that model :P | 21:07 |
| zetheroo | I wonder how that will pan out ... | 21:07 |
| ajalkane | I'm not going to buy anything until real Ubuntu Phones (or Jolla phones) are out. | 21:12 |
| popey | me too ☺ | 21:13 |
| ajalkane | I kept using my last phone (N95) for five years. I don't mind sitting on my ass for another 3-4 years if Ubuntu/Jolla takes their time, if there's nothing compellive in the market. | 21:17 |
| k1l_ | i want an ubuntu-phone now! :) | 21:18 |
| ajalkane | Hehe... well me too | 21:18 |
| popey | I loved my N82 | 21:19 |
| k1l_ | honestly, im looking out for a cheap gnex on ebay to give it to my girlfriend. but i think im gonna need it for maintainance at end of february ;p | 21:19 |
| ajalkane | I have no experience of N82, but N95 was the first smartphone I wanted to BUY. It was just perfect for its time. I wasn't interested in buying a smartphone after that until N9 came. Now I'm not interested until Ubuntu/Jolla comes out with something :). | 21:21 |
| k1l_ | i was very satisfied with the motorola milestone (the european droid). but it was to slow, had to less ram and the locked bootloader was a real showstopper. but i miss the hardware keyboard :/ | 21:23 |
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