[04:04] So what would be my best route for an app using local storage? Does the HTML5 local storage work? Is there some kind of SQL? [04:05] I am new to QT altogether, though I am familiar with C++ and well versed in JS [04:11] using QML? http://doc-snapshot.qt-project.org/5.0/qtquick/qmlmodule-qtquick-localstorage2-qtquick-localstorage-2.html [04:15] OK, so I guess I have another question about QML{,Quick} and QT. Is QML the main target for the phone OS? [04:16] I had the impression that the QML was just for interface design with some light functionality === ubuntu__ is now known as Guest61918 [04:16] I guess I am just trying to find a good path to start with [04:16] i don't know the answer to that, sorry [04:22] I guess I am having trouble finding what to move on to after the tutorial app from ubuntu's page. === DaemonicApathy is now known as DaemonBubbles [06:10] I am having trouble getting the new style tabs to load. I have set the ItemStyle.class to "new-tabs", but they are just blank.... === DaemonBubbles is now known as DaemonicApathy === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === msorvig_ is now known as msorvig === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === k1l_ is now known as k1l === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [15:00] Hello, I see that Ubuntu Phone is finally supposed to be released in February? I was wondering if there is a beta or any way to try it out now? [15:01] * popey points voodootru at the /topic ☺ [15:01] voodootru, no:P [15:01] cool, thanks guys. Guess I just have to sit tight :S [15:36] any reason openDatabaseSync would not be defined? [15:37] I am trying to use SQLite to save data === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [20:15] !info simon [20:15] Package simon does not exist in quantal [20:38] prices in the US are super duper :D [20:38] oops .. wrong window :P === bearovercloud_ is now known as bearovercloud [20:55] wondering why the storage spec requirements for the Ubuntu Phone OS install is so high [20:55] zetheroo: they are? [20:56] well for the "High-end Ubuntu "superphone"" it's 32GB [20:56] that'll be normal by 2014 [20:57] zetheroo: I guess it's because they intend to include the whole Ubuntu OS there for docking purposes. [20:57] of course if your installing numerous desktop applications you may need this kind of space ... [20:57] yeah, but even the full Ubuntu OS does not need anywhere near 32GB ... [20:58] does anyone know how much room Ubuntu Desktop actually takes on a HDD after a vanilla install? [20:58] zetheroo: of course not, but a buyer would be pretty disappointed buying a "superphone" where the OS takes most of the "available storage" [20:58] true [20:59] but I would imagine the actual install of Ubuntu would take up less than 4GB ... no?! [21:00] I'd imagnie so also... but thinking in powers of two, 16GB is the next lowest, and if the OS munches 4 gigs of that, it might not be a pleasant surprise. With 32 you'd still have 28 gigs left, so it's proportionally speaking less of an annoyance [21:01] ok, supposedly Ubuntu Desktop takes about 3GB and an additional 1.5GB is needed for updating etc ... [21:02] so in theory if one is not going to be installing dozens of desktop applications, 16GB could work pretty well ... [21:02] But really, we're talking about a "superphone" here. 32 gigs of storage place was not much even a year ago. Much less a year from now. [21:02] and actually Linux applications tend to be pretty lightweight as well ... [21:02] yeah true [21:02] Apps are not the only thing people want to use their phone for. The majority of content is what users want to store there. Videos, pictures etc. [21:03] yes - but if the phone has an SD slot you could store your media and data on there ... and leave the onboard memory for running the OS and apps ... [21:03] I somehow forgot music. I still see people lamenting how they can't store their whole music collection on a phone :) [21:03] I wonder if it will be possible to install the apps to SD [21:03] LOL [21:04] The specs say 32GB eMMC + SD, so apparently they don't care how the storage is provided [21:04] my need for this Ubuntu Phone OS is pretty straight forward with not much media or data storage ... basically just a tool for a sys admin [21:05] O guess all you need then is the "entry level Ubuntu smartphone" ;) [21:05] well I would not mind coming into work and docking my phone in and working on that :D [21:06] since I work with Ubuntu on a Thinkpad anyhow atm [21:06] would be pretty nifty to leave the laptop at home and just bring the "superphone" to work - hehe [21:07] Yeah, it does promise some sweet possibilities. [21:07] But we'll see how it materializes [21:07] it would be a shame to buy an expensive high-end phone and then find out that Ubuntu Phone is not ported to that model :P [21:07] I wonder how that will pan out ... [21:12] I'm not going to buy anything until real Ubuntu Phones (or Jolla phones) are out. [21:13] me too ☺ [21:17] I kept using my last phone (N95) for five years. I don't mind sitting on my ass for another 3-4 years if Ubuntu/Jolla takes their time, if there's nothing compellive in the market. [21:18] i want an ubuntu-phone now! :) [21:18] Hehe... well me too [21:19] I loved my N82 [21:19] honestly, im looking out for a cheap gnex on ebay to give it to my girlfriend. but i think im gonna need it for maintainance at end of february ;p [21:21] I have no experience of N82, but N95 was the first smartphone I wanted to BUY. It was just perfect for its time. I wasn't interested in buying a smartphone after that until N9 came. Now I'm not interested until Ubuntu/Jolla comes out with something :). [21:23] i was very satisfied with the motorola milestone (the european droid). but it was to slow, had to less ram and the locked bootloader was a real showstopper. but i miss the hardware keyboard :/ === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam