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zero_coderhello , i have got extra partitions in ubuntu03:21
zero_coderhow can i merge it with the main one/?03:22
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BluesKajHi all11:05
Guest15931welcome my friend.............11:18
Guest15931welcome................ tooooo.............. the machineEEEEEEEE..............11:18
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MichaelPOn my netbook i have 23 inch HD tv hooked up to hdmi... How do i make grub and plymounth boot show on both screens like it does on the livecd ?16:03
BluesKajMichaelP, look in system settings> Display&Monitor>Size &Orientation, check unify ouputs , apply16:08
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MichaelPBluesKaj, thanks16:23
BluesKajMichaelP, np , it worked for me with vga . I'm assuming hdmi isn't much differnt16:25
MichaelPNow see if that works16:25
3JTAAHPT8hi giuys , I cannot really understand the policy behind the release new versions of Amarok , I mean I love Amarok , and I had a lot of crashs problem last month, so I'm waiting for some upgrade hoping they will fix the problem , but now the upgrade is there...., and to ipgrade it I'll need to add a backport repository which of course can drive my system to a an unconfortable instability , so I'm just asking , is really the best way we have to spread the16:25
3JTAAHPT8 improvement of Amarok ?16:25
MichaelPBluesKaj, that put grub and plymouth on both screens16:25
hateball3JTAAHPT8: You can wait for the next release that has the latest version included16:26
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BluesKajMichaelP, isn't that what you want ?16:27
MichaelPreboot and see what it does16:27
3JTAAHPT8yeah , of course but for now , if I want music , I just need to use something else, and who knows , maybe , I never come back to amarok , even if is a great software , but it has a bit of pbroblem yet .....16:27
BluesKaj3JTAAHPT8, amarok can work well, but it needs patience and a lot of attention , something for which i don't have time16:30
MichaelPvlc does both video and music... i use it in both linux and windows16:30
3JTAAHPT8I think hateball would be much better to use a separate repos just for Amarok , or other software which needs to grow up at different rhythm, to reach the same level of stability of the entire kde ...., anyway , is just my opinion , and probablly there are many reasons to do in the actual way...16:30
BluesKajyeah , VLC is my fav media player ... does everything16:31
hateballSure, except manage a library and other such things some users might need16:31
BluesKajlibraries are a PITA to me I just play the files from the folder16:32
lordievader3JTAAHPT8: You could try Clementine, it's a fork of Amarok 1.416:33
3JTAAHPT8yeah of course BluesKaj, but I fill much more confortable with amarok , when we are talking about thousands and thousands of tracks , to mange , to give it a valuation, to bild a temporany playlist just with a string search , and much more thing that is not really the same in vlc , you don't thing so  ?16:33
BluesKajaltho clementine is easier to use than amarok16:33
hateballDifferent users, different use cases16:33
3JTAAHPT8lordievader: I'm actually using it , and is a nice software , but I hate to loose any semantic data I put in amarok before ......16:33
BluesKaj3JTAAHPT8, I don't open vlc to play the file , I have vlc setup to play all media file extensions16:34
BluesKajso I just play the files from the folders directly16:35
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3JTAAHPT8Like I said , I think that there are few software in kde which needs to run a bit faster for a while to reach the same levels of the other , and in my opinion they should be spread in a searate way until they reach the same stability ....., especially if you use those software like default program to do something ...16:36
3JTAAHPT8I mean guys , when I open Kubuntu for the first time, the default confing , doesn't give any real example that can show the real powerfull of kde ......, I open a web page and it will open rekonq , which is an half software in my opinion (it doesn't support some basic stuff in my opinion), I open Amarok to play some song , and often happens a crash if you play a bit more with it ...., the default player is Dragon Player , someone has really never use it16:39
3JTAAHPT8 !?!16:39
3JTAAHPT8I mean, I thing that changing a bit of things can improves a lot the first experience of a newbbie just arrived on kubuntu.......16:41
BluesKajwell rekonq is not ready for prime time altho it is getting better ...i've never used the default media apps on any OS16:41
BluesKajor browsers16:42
3JTAAHPT8ok BluesKaj I agree, is not ready yet , so why use it us a default software ......16:42
3JTAAHPT8I mean we aren't talking about a quite useless application, we are talking about the default tool to access the web .......16:43
BluesKaj3JTAAHPT8, I beleive the internet section in the kmenu has the firefox installer in the list by default16:43
3JTAAHPT8we are sure there aren't other better solution m before rekonq is ready ?16:43
3JTAAHPT8yeah but the installer ....16:43
BluesKajwell, just run it16:44
3JTAAHPT8why don't put firefo by default or chromium , and just gives the possibility to try even rekonq ......16:44
BluesKajhow many ppl in W7 or 8 use IE16:44
zero_coderpeople are still using windows :P16:45
3JTAAHPT8ahh ok , so we have to do the same as windows , of course .....16:45
3JTAAHPT8yah , but they try to change because they don't like it anymore , don't you think ?16:45
3JTAAHPT8anyway , mine was just a suggestion, and actually I'm using kubuntu since 5 years about, and I love it .......16:47
lordievaderNo one is ever going to agree on what should be the default browser, different person, different browser. Be glad you got apt-get to install your browser of choice.16:48
3JTAAHPT8and is because I love it , I would like that people that comes to try kubuntu should remain really satisfied, even at the first impression ......16:48
hateball3JTAAHPT8: You could perhaps ask on the mailing list16:49
hateballI agree, having *good* default is something to strive for, just saying "you can install something else, the default is not so good" is hardly the best way to remedy the problem16:49
3JTAAHPT8hateball: I don't have to ask nothing at moment, like I said I'm using Kubuntu in my work since years , and I don't have anymore those kind  of difficulty........16:50
hateball3JTAAHPT8: Well you don't, but as you said new users might16:51
hateballI'm not sure if  there's any better place than the mailing list to post such suggestions16:51
3JTAAHPT8that's why I think, the first start of kubuntu , shoulb really ready for a newbbie ......16:51
3JTAAHPT8for us wouldn't be a problem to setting up owr environment around owr needs ...., for them is just impossible even to image that is possible ......16:52
3JTAAHPT8about the installer of firefox  BluesKaj , I can image their face when after hours of installation in some case, they start the system , search a browser , and what they found a software not ready yet , or another installation ....., most of them get confused about that I guess .....16:57
lordievader3JTAAHPT8: For Windows it is the same?16:57
3JTAAHPT8yeah , and that's why shouldn't be the same on Kubuntu16:58
3JTAAHPT8actually it should be the MAIN reason to do it .. :D16:58
3JTAAHPT8and talking about rekonq , have it as a default software means , to have it as a default browser when open links from apps like thunderbird, even if I change any settings I know about it, and being rekonq a software not ready yet , it should be avoided I guess .....17:03
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BluesKaj3JTAAHPT8, anyone with some computer experience shouldn't have a problem with installing Firefox , especially if he/she has the ability to install linux in the first place :)17:55
3JTAAHPT8of course BluesKaj, maybe some of them ae even capable to compile it , why we don't point them just to the source  :D , of course I'm jocking  .....17:56
youquexanyone use chromium?17:56
3JTAAHPT8I do youquex, and I love it ...17:57
youquexivew noticed, whjat I think is a minor difference compared to chrome17:57
youquexwhen you dont have any tabs, there is no new tab button17:57
youquexso you gotta go to the menu, and open one, then you get the tab17:57
3JTAAHPT8yeah , I saw it ......17:57
youquexkinda annoying17:57
youquexis it a chromium thing17:57
3JTAAHPT8or just use CTRL + T youquex17:57
youquexoh i know17:58
youquexive been using linux for n12+ years, im very good with shortcuts17:58
youquexim just curious if its a linux thing with chromium AND chrome, or its just chromium, and would be see the same on windows17:58
youquexits just a minor annoyance cause im so used to hitting the new tab button and typing an address17:59
3JTAAHPT8maybe some #chromium channel here !?!17:59
youquexgoogling doesnt give much a clue, just lots of complaints of people bitching about them removing the + sign from the new tab button18:00
youquexeh maybe, ive been on freenode for years, lemme loook18:00
3JTAAHPT8yeah youquex is there a #chromium channel on freenode, maybe they can tell us ... :)18:02
youquexya i know18:02
youquexi just asked18:02
youquexno answerszz yet18:02
youquexthey want me to ask in chromium support18:03
3JTAAHPT8yeah , I see , I'm there18:04
youquex3JTAAHPT8: well they are saying its a ubuntu build thing18:06
youquexthey built it with weird options or something18:06
youquexor its an old version18:07
youquexbut its 23.x which is only one version down from the current stable18:07
3JTAAHPT8 about the suggestion to improve the default config of  kubuntu,  do you think is this http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forumdisplay.php?165-Round-Table-Discussions-Moderated the right place to talk about it, I mean talk to the council of Kubuntu !?! , should I dare to ? , because I didn't find any better place to do it ......18:07
BluesKajchromium doesn't integrate it's tab fonts well with kde ..so small that they're unreadable on a large monitor, the gtk settings don't do much either18:13
tsimpson3JTAAHPT8: the best place to do it is either on the kubuntu-devel mailing list, or report a bug on launchpad18:13
3JTAAHPT8report bug to prupose an improvement of default settings !?! I'm confused !?!18:13
3JTAAHPT8I would like to open a discussion on it and not report a bug actually .....18:14
tsimpsonthen use the mailing list18:15
3JTAAHPT8ok tsimpson, but once I'm in where should I write it !? :O18:21
tsimpson3JTAAHPT8: you write an email to the address shown18:21
tsimpsonit'll get sent to all subscribers to the list, including the council and and development team18:22
3JTAAHPT8ok tsimpson, i'll do it , thanks ...18:23
georgehello. I'm running Kubuntu 12.10 64-bit and Libreoffice It keeps crashing when I try to "save as". Any help?18:26
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lugarhello everybody19:51
ovidiu-florinI saw that 2 new nvidia drivers appeared in the additional drivers app. are they updates? or? why is still the ancient one recommended?19:55
BluesKajovidiu-florin, it has to do with your graphics card19:57
ovidiu-florinBluesKaj: I know that20:01
ovidiu-florinI was hoping for a more elaborate answer20:01
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KJ_agent007hello..how can i find Christian chat rooms on here?20:21
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*20:22
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yfficBonsoir tout le monde !Hello world!20:27
lordievader!france | yffic20:30
ubottuyffic: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.20:30
lordievader!pm | yffic20:32
ubottuyffic: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.20:32
raindogI'm using 4.10rc3.  The panel in with newest air theme is bright white with no transparency.  Is is supposed to look this way?20:42
fkmIs it possible to _not_ theme the login screen (LightDM) in the newest version of Kubuntu?20:49
fkmOr, is it possible to go back to the old one (i.e. does someone know what the old one was called)?20:50
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lordievaderfkm: With the old one you are probably refering to kdm, instead of lightdm. The DM used by <= 12.0420:52
lordievader!info kdm | fkm20:54
ubottufkm: kdm (source: kde-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.2 (quantal), package size 907 kB, installed size 2691 kB20:54
fkmAaaah :-D This is exactly, what I was looking for!20:54
fkmThank you very much lordievader!20:54
lordievaderNo problem, fkm. Have fun!20:55
fkmI will :-) *reboot*20:59
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kronomanthere is any  way to use the gamepad to move the cursor? I have it working and calibrated on the configuration panel21:48
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lordievader!info qjoypad| kronoman21:55
ubottu'kronoman' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable21:55
lordievader!info qjoypad21:56
ubottuPackage qjoypad does not exist in quantal21:56
zimba12does this look like a bug? http://askubuntu.com/q/246326/7845321:56
lordievader*sigh* kronoman: Take a look at this: http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/21:56
vitimitiI have this message when logging in http://pastebin.com/L8xnCTvz . I've been told it could be something related with VGA, is there anybody here who could help me?23:03
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