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zero_coder | hello , i have got extra partitions in ubuntu | 03:21 |
zero_coder | how can i merge it with the main one/? | 03:22 |
zero_coder | #ubuntu | 03:23 |
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BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:05 |
Guest15931 | welcome my friend............. | 11:18 |
Guest15931 | welcome................ tooooo.............. the machineEEEEEEEE.............. | 11:18 |
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MichaelP | On my netbook i have 23 inch HD tv hooked up to hdmi... How do i make grub and plymounth boot show on both screens like it does on the livecd ? | 16:03 |
BluesKaj | MichaelP, look in system settings> Display&Monitor>Size &Orientation, check unify ouputs , apply | 16:08 |
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MichaelP | BluesKaj, thanks | 16:23 |
BluesKaj | MichaelP, np , it worked for me with vga . I'm assuming hdmi isn't much differnt | 16:25 |
MichaelP | Now see if that works | 16:25 |
3JTAAHPT8 | hi giuys , I cannot really understand the policy behind the release new versions of Amarok , I mean I love Amarok , and I had a lot of crashs problem last month, so I'm waiting for some upgrade hoping they will fix the problem , but now the upgrade is there...., and to ipgrade it I'll need to add a backport repository which of course can drive my system to a an unconfortable instability , so I'm just asking , is really the best way we have to spread the | 16:25 |
3JTAAHPT8 | improvement of Amarok ? | 16:25 |
MichaelP | BluesKaj, that put grub and plymouth on both screens | 16:25 |
hateball | 3JTAAHPT8: You can wait for the next release that has the latest version included | 16:26 |
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BluesKaj | MichaelP, isn't that what you want ? | 16:27 |
MichaelP | yep | 16:27 |
MichaelP | reboot and see what it does | 16:27 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yeah , of course but for now , if I want music , I just need to use something else, and who knows , maybe , I never come back to amarok , even if is a great software , but it has a bit of pbroblem yet ..... | 16:27 |
MichaelP | VLC | 16:28 |
BluesKaj | 3JTAAHPT8, amarok can work well, but it needs patience and a lot of attention , something for which i don't have time | 16:30 |
MichaelP | vlc does both video and music... i use it in both linux and windows | 16:30 |
3JTAAHPT8 | I think hateball would be much better to use a separate repos just for Amarok , or other software which needs to grow up at different rhythm, to reach the same level of stability of the entire kde ...., anyway , is just my opinion , and probablly there are many reasons to do in the actual way... | 16:30 |
BluesKaj | yeah , VLC is my fav media player ... does everything | 16:31 |
hateball | Sure, except manage a library and other such things some users might need | 16:31 |
BluesKaj | libraries are a PITA to me I just play the files from the folder | 16:32 |
lordievader | 3JTAAHPT8: You could try Clementine, it's a fork of Amarok 1.4 | 16:33 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yeah of course BluesKaj, but I fill much more confortable with amarok , when we are talking about thousands and thousands of tracks , to mange , to give it a valuation, to bild a temporany playlist just with a string search , and much more thing that is not really the same in vlc , you don't thing so ? | 16:33 |
BluesKaj | altho clementine is easier to use than amarok | 16:33 |
hateball | Different users, different use cases | 16:33 |
3JTAAHPT8 | lordievader: I'm actually using it , and is a nice software , but I hate to loose any semantic data I put in amarok before ...... | 16:33 |
BluesKaj | 3JTAAHPT8, I don't open vlc to play the file , I have vlc setup to play all media file extensions | 16:34 |
BluesKaj | so I just play the files from the folders directly | 16:35 |
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3JTAAHPT8 | Like I said , I think that there are few software in kde which needs to run a bit faster for a while to reach the same levels of the other , and in my opinion they should be spread in a searate way until they reach the same stability ....., especially if you use those software like default program to do something ... | 16:36 |
3JTAAHPT8 | I mean guys , when I open Kubuntu for the first time, the default confing , doesn't give any real example that can show the real powerfull of kde ......, I open a web page and it will open rekonq , which is an half software in my opinion (it doesn't support some basic stuff in my opinion), I open Amarok to play some song , and often happens a crash if you play a bit more with it ...., the default player is Dragon Player , someone has really never use it | 16:39 |
3JTAAHPT8 | !?! | 16:39 |
3JTAAHPT8 | I mean, I thing that changing a bit of things can improves a lot the first experience of a newbbie just arrived on kubuntu....... | 16:41 |
BluesKaj | well rekonq is not ready for prime time altho it is getting better ...i've never used the default media apps on any OS | 16:41 |
BluesKaj | or browsers | 16:42 |
3JTAAHPT8 | ok BluesKaj I agree, is not ready yet , so why use it us a default software ...... | 16:42 |
3JTAAHPT8 | I mean we aren't talking about a quite useless application, we are talking about the default tool to access the web ....... | 16:43 |
BluesKaj | 3JTAAHPT8, I beleive the internet section in the kmenu has the firefox installer in the list by default | 16:43 |
3JTAAHPT8 | we are sure there aren't other better solution m before rekonq is ready ? | 16:43 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yeah but the installer .... | 16:43 |
BluesKaj | well, just run it | 16:44 |
3JTAAHPT8 | why don't put firefo by default or chromium , and just gives the possibility to try even rekonq ...... | 16:44 |
BluesKaj | how many ppl in W7 or 8 use IE | 16:44 |
zero_coder | people are still using windows :P | 16:45 |
3JTAAHPT8 | ahh ok , so we have to do the same as windows , of course ..... | 16:45 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yah , but they try to change because they don't like it anymore , don't you think ? | 16:45 |
3JTAAHPT8 | anyway , mine was just a suggestion, and actually I'm using kubuntu since 5 years about, and I love it ....... | 16:47 |
lordievader | No one is ever going to agree on what should be the default browser, different person, different browser. Be glad you got apt-get to install your browser of choice. | 16:48 |
3JTAAHPT8 | and is because I love it , I would like that people that comes to try kubuntu should remain really satisfied, even at the first impression ...... | 16:48 |
hateball | 3JTAAHPT8: You could perhaps ask on the mailing list | 16:49 |
hateball | I agree, having *good* default is something to strive for, just saying "you can install something else, the default is not so good" is hardly the best way to remedy the problem | 16:49 |
3JTAAHPT8 | hateball: I don't have to ask nothing at moment, like I said I'm using Kubuntu in my work since years , and I don't have anymore those kind of difficulty........ | 16:50 |
hateball | 3JTAAHPT8: Well you don't, but as you said new users might | 16:51 |
hateball | I'm not sure if there's any better place than the mailing list to post such suggestions | 16:51 |
3JTAAHPT8 | that's why I think, the first start of kubuntu , shoulb really ready for a newbbie ...... | 16:51 |
3JTAAHPT8 | for us wouldn't be a problem to setting up owr environment around owr needs ...., for them is just impossible even to image that is possible ...... | 16:52 |
3JTAAHPT8 | about the installer of firefox BluesKaj , I can image their face when after hours of installation in some case, they start the system , search a browser , and what they found a software not ready yet , or another installation ....., most of them get confused about that I guess ..... | 16:57 |
lordievader | 3JTAAHPT8: For Windows it is the same? | 16:57 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yeah , and that's why shouldn't be the same on Kubuntu | 16:58 |
3JTAAHPT8 | actually it should be the MAIN reason to do it .. :D | 16:58 |
3JTAAHPT8 | and talking about rekonq , have it as a default software means , to have it as a default browser when open links from apps like thunderbird, even if I change any settings I know about it, and being rekonq a software not ready yet , it should be avoided I guess ..... | 17:03 |
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BluesKaj | 3JTAAHPT8, anyone with some computer experience shouldn't have a problem with installing Firefox , especially if he/she has the ability to install linux in the first place :) | 17:55 |
3JTAAHPT8 | of course BluesKaj, maybe some of them ae even capable to compile it , why we don't point them just to the source :D , of course I'm jocking ..... | 17:56 |
youquex | anyone use chromium? | 17:56 |
3JTAAHPT8 | I do youquex, and I love it ... | 17:57 |
youquex | ivew noticed, whjat I think is a minor difference compared to chrome | 17:57 |
youquex | when you dont have any tabs, there is no new tab button | 17:57 |
youquex | so you gotta go to the menu, and open one, then you get the tab | 17:57 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yeah , I saw it ...... | 17:57 |
youquex | kinda annoying | 17:57 |
youquex | is it a chromium thing | 17:57 |
3JTAAHPT8 | or just use CTRL + T youquex | 17:57 |
youquex | oh i know | 17:58 |
youquex | ive been using linux for n12+ years, im very good with shortcuts | 17:58 |
youquex | im just curious if its a linux thing with chromium AND chrome, or its just chromium, and would be see the same on windows | 17:58 |
youquex | its just a minor annoyance cause im so used to hitting the new tab button and typing an address | 17:59 |
3JTAAHPT8 | maybe some #chromium channel here !?! | 17:59 |
youquex | googling doesnt give much a clue, just lots of complaints of people bitching about them removing the + sign from the new tab button | 18:00 |
youquex | eh maybe, ive been on freenode for years, lemme loook | 18:00 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yeah youquex is there a #chromium channel on freenode, maybe they can tell us ... :) | 18:02 |
youquex | ya i know | 18:02 |
youquex | i just asked | 18:02 |
youquex | no answerszz yet | 18:02 |
youquex | lol | 18:03 |
youquex | they want me to ask in chromium support | 18:03 |
3JTAAHPT8 | yeah , I see , I'm there | 18:04 |
youquex | 3JTAAHPT8: well they are saying its a ubuntu build thing | 18:06 |
youquex | they built it with weird options or something | 18:06 |
youquex | or its an old version | 18:07 |
youquex | but its 23.x which is only one version down from the current stable | 18:07 |
3JTAAHPT8 | about the suggestion to improve the default config of kubuntu, do you think is this http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forumdisplay.php?165-Round-Table-Discussions-Moderated the right place to talk about it, I mean talk to the council of Kubuntu !?! , should I dare to ? , because I didn't find any better place to do it ...... | 18:07 |
BluesKaj | chromium doesn't integrate it's tab fonts well with kde ..so small that they're unreadable on a large monitor, the gtk settings don't do much either | 18:13 |
tsimpson | 3JTAAHPT8: the best place to do it is either on the kubuntu-devel mailing list, or report a bug on launchpad | 18:13 |
3JTAAHPT8 | report bug to prupose an improvement of default settings !?! I'm confused !?! | 18:13 |
tsimpson | yes | 18:14 |
3JTAAHPT8 | I would like to open a discussion on it and not report a bug actually ..... | 18:14 |
tsimpson | then use the mailing list | 18:15 |
tsimpson | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel | 18:15 |
3JTAAHPT8 | ok tsimpson, but once I'm in where should I write it !? :O | 18:21 |
tsimpson | 3JTAAHPT8: you write an email to the address shown | 18:21 |
tsimpson | it'll get sent to all subscribers to the list, including the council and and development team | 18:22 |
3JTAAHPT8 | ok tsimpson, i'll do it , thanks ... | 18:23 |
george | hello. I'm running Kubuntu 12.10 64-bit and Libreoffice 3.6.4.3. It keeps crashing when I try to "save as". Any help? | 18:26 |
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lugar | hello everybody | 19:51 |
ovidiu-florin | I saw that 2 new nvidia drivers appeared in the additional drivers app. are they updates? or? why is still the ancient one recommended? | 19:55 |
BluesKaj | ovidiu-florin, it has to do with your graphics card | 19:57 |
ovidiu-florin | BluesKaj: I know that | 20:01 |
ovidiu-florin | I was hoping for a more elaborate answer | 20:01 |
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KJ_agent007 | hello..how can i find Christian chat rooms on here? | 20:21 |
OerHeks | !alis | 20:22 |
ubottu | alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* | 20:22 |
KJ_agent007 | !alis | 20:24 |
ubottu | alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* | 20:24 |
KJ_agent007 | #ubuntu | 20:25 |
KJ_agent007 | ?? | 20:25 |
yffic | Bonsoir tout le monde !Hello world! | 20:27 |
lordievader | !france | yffic | 20:30 |
ubottu | yffic: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 20:30 |
lordievader | !pm | yffic | 20:32 |
ubottu | yffic: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. | 20:32 |
raindog | I'm using 4.10rc3. The panel in with newest air theme is bright white with no transparency. Is is supposed to look this way? | 20:42 |
fkm | Is it possible to _not_ theme the login screen (LightDM) in the newest version of Kubuntu? | 20:49 |
fkm | Or, is it possible to go back to the old one (i.e. does someone know what the old one was called)? | 20:50 |
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lordievader | fkm: With the old one you are probably refering to kdm, instead of lightdm. The DM used by <= 12.04 | 20:52 |
lordievader | !info kdm | fkm | 20:54 |
ubottu | fkm: kdm (source: kde-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.2 (quantal), package size 907 kB, installed size 2691 kB | 20:54 |
fkm | Aaaah :-D This is exactly, what I was looking for! | 20:54 |
fkm | Thank you very much lordievader! | 20:54 |
lordievader | No problem, fkm. Have fun! | 20:55 |
fkm | I will :-) *reboot* | 20:59 |
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kronoman | there is any way to use the gamepad to move the cursor? I have it working and calibrated on the configuration panel | 21:48 |
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lordievader | !info qjoypad| kronoman | 21:55 |
ubottu | 'kronoman' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable | 21:55 |
lordievader | !info qjoypad | 21:56 |
ubottu | Package qjoypad does not exist in quantal | 21:56 |
zimba12 | does this look like a bug? http://askubuntu.com/q/246326/78453 | 21:56 |
lordievader | *sigh* kronoman: Take a look at this: http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/ | 21:56 |
kronoman | thanks! | 21:56 |
vitimiti | I have this message when logging in http://pastebin.com/L8xnCTvz . I've been told it could be something related with VGA, is there anybody here who could help me? | 23:03 |
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