[01:31] <mathi> hi
[01:36] <mathi> any hotkey to open console ?
[01:37] <holstein> mathi: i usually set 'super+t' ala #! ...control+alt+t usually work, though i forget if that was default or not
[01:37] <holstein> !tty
[01:41] <mathi> holstein, i never understood the difference between ctrl-alt-t console and the ctrl-alt-f1-6
[01:43] <holstein> mathi: depends on what you want to do... if you are just trying to run some commands in a terminal, then it doesnt really matter
[01:43] <mathi> holstein, then when does it matter ?
[01:44] <holstein> mathi: it depends on what you are doing... what are you wanting to do?
[01:44] <mathi> not much right now)
[01:44] <holstein> mathi: then just open terminal, and "experiment"
[04:04] <user02938> How do I enable wireless with ralink rt3070 chipset
[04:07] <user02938> This wireless works fine in kubuntu 12.04 but not in lubuntu 12.04.
[04:07] <Unit193> If I were you, I'd install firmware-ralink
[04:07] <Unit193> !info firmware-ralink
[04:08] <Unit193> ...Alright.
[04:10] <user02938> i also tried to install the windows driver, but the driver is an .exe and fails to extract properly in wine, although it managed to extract an .inf file but no .sys.
[04:11] <Unit193> I'd recommend looking in jockey, which was moved to Software Sources > Additional Drivers.
[04:13] <user02938> you mean: Preferences > Additional drivers ?  Can't see software sources.
[04:13] <Unit193> Yep, the change I said was in quantal/12.10. :P
[04:14] <user02938> well firmware-ralink and jocket aren't in precise either.
[04:14] <user02938> unless i missed something..checking again..
[04:15] <user02938> found jocket-gtk
[04:15] <user02938> jockey-gtk
[04:17] <user02938> "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"..   :- (
[04:17] <user02938> strange how it works in kubuntu 12.04
[04:18] <Unit193> Indeed, I don't have a ralink card, and that other package I noticed wasn't in main repos, so all I can do now is either point you to #ubuntu or ...
[04:18] <Unit193> !ralink
[04:22] <kewel> I have an old machine, should I use lubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[04:25] <user02938> kewel, how old is old?
[04:25] <Unit193> Since Lubuntu doesn't have LTSes, it's generally recommended to be on the newest.  The question here would be if it supports PAE, though.  DO you know the CPU?
[04:30] <kewel> ya
[04:30] <kewel> PIII 1GHz 512 MB
[04:31] <kewel> *old* =)
[04:38] <user02938> kewel: Try the non-pae mini.iso ubuntu installer
[04:39] <user02938> that's what i use on my old pcs
[04:39] <kewel> I just read that anything after 1995 pentium pro has pae
[04:39] <kewel> PIII included.
[04:39] <kewel> also read that lubuntu 12.10 uses more ram than 12.04
[04:40] <kewel> heh.. the real problem is that I'm out of cdrs
[04:40] <kewel> you can't help with that. heh
[04:40] <user02938> ubuntu with pae has failed on my pcs
[04:40] <kewel> really?
[04:40] <user02938> yes many times that's why i used non-pae installer with generic kernel
[04:40] <kewel> my lubuntu 12.10 install cd locks up during install
[04:41] <Unit193> Easy way to check is booting the Live env, or if you already have linux   grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[04:41] <Unit193> kewel: Where did you read that it uses more ram?
[04:42] <kewel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1069081
[04:43] <user02938> I'm using Lubuntu 12.04 on my Celeron PC and it works fine except wireless.   Even better with an nvidia agp card.
[04:44] <user02938> Only one way to find out is to experiment.  Audio can be a problem in old pcs, so you might need to buy a pci sound card.
[04:44] <kewel> cool
[04:44] <kewel> thanks for the input
[04:46] <user02938> I entered:  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[04:46] <user02938> pae is listed in red here.
[04:46] <kewel> same here
[04:46] <kewel> cool
[04:48] <user02938> i used the non-pae installer for this pc. works fine.  Probably could have used the normal installer.
[04:49] <user02938> i like the ubuntu mini iso because you can build your system exactly how you want it.  But i select "ubuntu lxde desktop" which gives me "lubuntu".
[04:52] <user02938> With the mini iso you could build a stripped down ubuntu with a light destktop.  Cut any stuff you don't need like cups
[04:55] <kewel> I do need cups tho. heh
[04:56] <kewel> well I found a usb drive .. I'm gonna make a live usb with lubuntu 12.04 alt install
[04:56] <kewel> =)
[04:57] <user02938> OK.. as long as it boots from usb :- )
[04:57] <kewel> it's supposed to.  haven't tried it yet.
[04:57] <user02938> some old pcs lack usb booting in the bios so you need plop bootloader on CD or floppy which allows you to boot from usb.
[04:58] <user02938> <personal experience from many old pcs.
[04:59] <Unit193> Also, some need a BIOS update.
[10:48] <mathi> hi !
[10:48] <mathi> The following command gives me an error: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:48] <mathi> Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-22-generic
[10:48] <mathi> I am running Lubuntu 12.10, can anyone help ?
[10:50] <Unit193> Why on earth would you want to do that?
[10:50] <mathi> http://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html/asterisk-book.html#Installing_id423812
[10:50] <mathi> "Another dependency is required for installing DAHDI, and that is the kernel source. It is important that the kernel version being used match exactly that of the kernel source being installed. You can use uname -a to verify the currently running kernel version:"
[10:50] <mathi> Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:51] <Unit193> That's just wrong.  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic, but should already be installed.
[10:52] <Unit193> Also, should install asterisk from the repos.
[10:52] <Unit193> !info asterisk
[10:52] <mathi> which repos ?
[10:52] <mathi> I installed from their svn the version 11
[10:55] <mathi> Unit193, you mean I should do something like: apt-get install asterisk ??
[10:55] <Unit193> Yes.
[11:04] <mathi> Unit193, then I will have only version 1.8.x, though the latest stable release of Asterisk is 11.2
[11:10] <Unit193> mathi: That's the framework.
[11:14] <mathi> Unit193, it was Asterisk 1.8, then version 10, then version 11, they changed their naming system
[11:15] <Unit193> That's what it looks like, but I see version 1.8.20.0 as being released 14-Jan-2013.  I'm going to say I have no idea what's going on there.
[11:18] <Unit193> Is version 10+ Proprietary?  wikipedia, though not a good source, lists both versions as current, and both license types.
[11:19] <Unit193> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Versions alright, starting to get it more, makes sense.
[11:19] <mathi> ah
[11:20] <mathi> 1.8.x it's LTS, that's why
[11:20] <mathi> but 11 is also
[11:20] <Unit193> mathi: Anywho, sudo apt-get build-dep asterisk  will install what you need for 1.8 versions, and I'd *guess* it doesn't change much for 11.
[11:20] <mathi> that's why repo should be updated :P
[11:21] <Unit193> http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/asterisk.html I had looked there, which has 1.8 series as current upstream, and sid doesn't even have 11 yet.
[11:21] <mathi> Unit193, Asterisk is soemthing evolving very fast. I have code that would not work on 1.8
[11:21] <mathi> why not ?
[11:21] <mathi> maybe cause they upgrade too fast)
[11:23] <Unit193> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-voip/asterisk/trunk/debian/watch?view=log Heh, interesting.
[13:58] <dydzEz2> does lubuntu have the ubuntu software centre (like is everything the same except youre just using LXDE
[16:11] <holstein> dydzEz2: it can... the repos are the same, the same access to all the same software and sources
[16:11] <holstein> dydzEz2: everything is not the same by default though
[16:52] <IboS> hello people
[16:52] <IboS> i've ufw firewall
[16:53] <IboS> here the log of the firewall
[16:53] <IboS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1560086/
[16:53] <IboS> what's happening ?!
[16:54] <IboS> i'have a livebox
[16:55] <IboS> what causes on the side of the livebox this logging ?
[16:58] <holstein> IboS: what do you mean by "livebox"? 192.168.1.1 is the router? the gateway?
[16:59] <IboS> holstein: this is the router
[16:59] <holstein> IboS: so, the router is trying to connect to your machine and being blocked by the firewall? correct?
[16:59] <IboS> yep
[17:00] <IboS> it's what i suppose
[17:00] <holstein> IboS: do you control the router? what is trying to connnect and why?
[17:00] <holstein> what is the issue?
[17:00] <IboS> i control it
[17:00] <IboS> but i don't what is trying to connect
[17:00] <IboS> *know
[17:01] <IboS> i need support specifically for this type of router i guess
[17:02] <holstein> IboS: sometimes, i dont run a firewall behind the router on my lan
[17:02] <IboS> well i use nat of the router to access the pc in ssh for outside
[17:03] <IboS> internet
[17:03] <holstein> then, that could be what is trying to connect in IboS
[17:03] <holstein> or, anyone trying whatever port you are running ssh on
[17:03] <holstein> IboS: you have the firewall set to block traffic, and its reporting that it is blocking traffic
[17:04] <IboS> but in the log i don't have port
[17:04] <IboS> the port is not reported
[17:05] <holstein> IboS: i would try a different tool... or look at the router
[17:05] <IboS> oh
[17:05] <IboS> let's wireshark !
[17:06] <IboS> what you think holstein ?
[17:07] <holstein> IboS: its not my network.. i would just look at what traffic i am creating from the router
[17:07] <holstein> IboS: do what makes you feel comfortable
[17:11] <IboS> gaah i see
[17:11] <IboS> you're so realist
[17:12] <IboS> brb
[17:26] <IboS> holstein: it was upnp stuff
[17:27] <holstein> IboS: i disable that on my router